Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Dear list members, In the early 1990s there were two tragic events in the USA that were linked and occurred excatly two years apart. The first event was the final assault on the Branch Davidian compound at Mount Carmel in Waco, Texas at dawn on April 19, 1993. On February 28, 1993, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Booty and Firearms raided the Branch Davidian ranch, resulting in the deaths of four agents and six Davidians. The subsequent 51-day siege by the FBI ended on April 19 when fire completely consumed the complex, killing 76 people, including 21 children and Davidian leader David Koresh - inspiring Timothy McVeigh to carry out the Oklahoma City bombing exactly 2 years later. Ke/Ju period was running. Tr L6 Jupiter in H3 exactly aspected natal L3 Mercury in H7 and tr L4 Venus, tr L3 Mercury and tr L10 Moon in H9 . Natal L6 Jupiter exactly aspected tr L10 Mars in H1 and tr L11 Moon in H9. Tr L8 Saturn in H8 exactly aspected natal L6 Jupiter in H5. Tr Rahu exactly conjunct H5 MEP, aspecting H1, H9 and H11. Transit Ketu conjunct H11 MEP, aspecting H3, H5 and H7. This day had massive afflictions operating in the chart. The transits were almost as bad when the raid began on February 28, 1993. The second event was the Oklahoma city bombing. At 9:02 AM CST on Wednesday April 19, 1995 in the street in front of the Alfred P Murrag Federal Building a rented Ryder truck containing about 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) of explosive material detonated. The effect of the bombing on the city was immense. Beyond the death toll - 168 confirmed dead including 19 children and one rescue worker, plus an unidentifed leg indicating a possible 169th victim. The bomb injured over 800 people and destroyed or damaged more than 300 buildings in the surrounding area, leaving several hundred people homeless and shutting down offices in downtown Oklahoma city. The nation went into mourning for several days and President Clinton attended the Memorial Service for the victims. The chief perpetrator Timmothy McVeigh was captured the same day, tried and found guilty of the crime and subesequently executed. His co-conspirators were captured, tried and imprisoned. Ke/Me period was running. Transit Ketu was conjunct tr L3 Mercury in H10. Natal L6 Jupiter was closely aspecting tr L4 Venus in H9. Transit L8 Saturn in H8 closely aspected natal L8 Saturn in H5. Tr L6 Jupiter was exactly conjunct H5 MEP and aspecting H1, H11 and H9 and transit L10 Mars in H1. Both events are shown to have been accompanied by massive afflictions in the SAMVA USA chart. The astrological imprint couldn´t be any clearer. Best wishes, Thor Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 dear thor... great work! this gets more exciting every day! finally! the chart of USA! david hawthorne - Cosmologer samva Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:54 PM 2 tragic events - Waco assault & Oklahoma bombing - in SAMVA USA chart Dear list members, In the early 1990s there were two tragic events in the USA that were linked and occurred excatly two years apart. The first event was the final assault on the Branch Davidian compound at Mount Carmel in Waco, Texas at dawn on April 19, 1993. On February 28, 1993, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Booty and Firearms raided the Branch Davidian ranch, resulting in the deaths of four agents and six Davidians. The subsequent 51-day siege by the FBI ended on April 19 when fire completely consumed the complex, killing 76 people, including 21 children and Davidian leader David Koresh - inspiring Timothy McVeigh to carry out the Oklahoma City bombing exactly 2 years later. Ke/Ju period was running. Tr L6 Jupiter in H3 exactly aspected natal L3 Mercury in H7 and tr L4 Venus, tr L3 Mercury and tr L10 Moon in H9 . Natal L6 Jupiter exactly aspected tr L10 Mars in H1 and tr L11 Moon in H9. Tr L8 Saturn in H8 exactly aspected natal L6 Jupiter in H5. Tr Rahu exactly conjunct H5 MEP, aspecting H1, H9 and H11. Transit Ketu conjunct H11 MEP, aspecting H3, H5 and H7. This day had massive afflictions operating in the chart. The transits were almost as bad when the raid began on February 28, 1993. The second event was the Oklahoma city bombing. At 9:02 AM CST on Wednesday April 19, 1995 in the street in front of the Alfred P Murrag Federal Building a rented Ryder truck containing about 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) of explosive material detonated. The effect of the bombing on the city was immense. Beyond the death toll - 168 confirmed dead including 19 children and one rescue worker, plus an unidentifed leg indicating a possible 169th victim. The bomb injured over 800 people and destroyed or damaged more than 300 buildings in the surrounding area, leaving several hundred people homeless and shutting down offices in downtown Oklahoma city. The nation went into mourning for several days and President Clinton attended the Memorial Service for the victims. The chief perpetrator Timmothy McVeigh was captured the same day, tried and found guilty of the crime and subesequently executed. His co-conspirators were captured, tried and imprisoned. Ke/Me period was running. Transit Ketu was conjunct tr L3 Mercury in H10. Natal L6 Jupiter was closely aspecting tr L4 Venus in H9. Transit L8 Saturn in H8 closely aspected natal L8 Saturn in H5. Tr L6 Jupiter was exactly conjunct H5 MEP and aspecting H1, H11 and H9 and transit L10 Mars in H1. Both events are shown to have been accompanied by massive afflictions in the SAMVA USA chart. The astrological imprint couldn´t be any clearer. Best wishes, Thor Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Dear Thor, It shows up again, clearly. Good work. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Cosmologer " <cosmologer <samva > Thursday, January 25, 2007 2:54 PM 2 tragic events - Waco assault & Oklahoma bombing - in SAMVA USA chart > Dear list members, > > In the early 1990s there were two tragic events in the USA that were > linked and occurred excatly two years apart. > > The first event was the final assault on the Branch Davidian compound at > Mount Carmel in Waco, Texas at dawn on April 19, 1993. On February 28, > 1993, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Booty and Firearms raided the Branch > Davidian ranch, resulting in the deaths of four agents and six Davidians. > The subsequent 51-day siege by the FBI ended on April 19 when fire > completely consumed the complex, killing 76 people, including 21 children > and Davidian leader David Koresh - inspiring Timothy McVeigh to carry out > the Oklahoma City bombing exactly 2 years later. Ke/Ju period was running. > Tr L6 Jupiter in H3 exactly aspected natal L3 Mercury in H7 and tr L4 > Venus, tr L3 Mercury and tr L10 Moon in H9 . Natal L6 Jupiter exactly > aspected tr L10 Mars in H1 and tr L11 Moon in H9. Tr L8 Saturn in H8 > exactly aspected natal L6 Jupiter in H5. Tr Rahu exactly conjunct H5 MEP, > aspecting H1, H9 and H11. Transit Ketu conjunct H11 MEP, aspecting H3, H5 > and H7. This day had massive afflictions > operating in the chart. The transits were almost as bad when the raid > began on February 28, 1993. > > The second event was the Oklahoma city bombing. At 9:02 AM CST on > Wednesday April 19, 1995 in the street in front of the Alfred P Murrag > Federal Building a rented Ryder truck containing about 5,000 pounds (2,300 > kg) of explosive material detonated. The effect of the bombing on the city > was immense. Beyond the death toll - 168 confirmed dead including 19 > children and one rescue worker, plus an unidentifed leg indicating a > possible 169th victim. The bomb injured over 800 people and destroyed or > damaged more than 300 buildings in the surrounding area, leaving several > hundred people homeless and shutting down offices in downtown Oklahoma > city. The nation went into mourning for several days and President Clinton > attended the Memorial Service for the victims. The chief perpetrator > Timmothy McVeigh was captured the same day, tried and found guilty of the > crime and subesequently executed. His co-conspirators were captured, tried > and imprisoned. > Ke/Me period was running. Transit Ketu was conjunct tr L3 Mercury in H10. > Natal L6 Jupiter was closely aspecting tr L4 Venus in H9. Transit L8 > Saturn in H8 closely aspected natal L8 Saturn in H5. Tr L6 Jupiter was > exactly conjunct H5 MEP and aspecting H1, H11 and H9 and transit L10 Mars > in H1. > > Both events are shown to have been accompanied by massive afflictions in > the SAMVA USA chart. The astrological imprint couldn´t be any clearer. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > > > Never miss an email again! > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Thanks Thor Please find pasted here, below, snippets of some events the history April 19. Thanks, John History of April 19th: Oklahoma City, Waco, Warsaw, Concord Sun Tzu's Newswire (STN 2000-025)by Richard RongstadTuesday, April 18, 200010:30 am U.S. Pacific Time April 19th is just around the corner. Are you ready? The nineteenth day of April has very special meanings for all Americans, and all Jews. April 19th is a crossroads in history where suffering and sacrifice, patriotism and tyranny, liberty and slavery, religious persecution and bigotry all intersect, again, and again. For citizens of Massachusetts, April 19th marks Patriot's Day and for all Americans, the date of the "Shot heard 'round the world", when colonial militias defied orders to surrender their guns and routed King George's redcoats. For Jews, April 19th is the day Nazi storm troops surrounded the Warsaw Ghetto, sparking a revolt led by a few young Jews who refused to be enslaved or incinerated. For modern American patriots, April 19th marks the day 76 members of a religious minority died in an assault by federal paramilitary forces, aided and advised by regular military units. For the people of Oklahoma City, April 19th marks the day that 168 people died in an explosion at the Murrah Federal Building. April 19, 1775 - The shot heard 'round the world: The Battles at Lexington Green and Concord Bridge. Warned by Paul Revere, William Dawes and Samuel Prescott, the Massachusetts militia mobilized to block a larger, better trained British force coming to seize militia weapons at Concord. At Lexington, Major John Pitcairn leading a detachment of Royal Marines told the colonists there: "Disperse, you rebels! Damn you, through down your arms, and disperse!" Nobody knows who fired the first shot at Lexington Green, but the colonial militia refused confiscation of their guns and the British drove them back in the initial encounter. After regrouping the colonial militia did better, turning back the British at Concord Bridge and forcing a disorderly British flight back to Boston. The road back became a deadly gauntlet as farmers from "every Middlesex village and farm" sniped from behind stone walls, trees, barns, houses, all the way back to Charlestown peninsula. By nightfall the British survivors were safe under the protection of the Royal Navy and British army at Boston, having lost 273 men that day, while the Americans lost 95. The following year, the colonial Americans declared independence, a date now marked as July 4th, a national holiday. Months after participating in the actions at Lexington and Concord, a former slave, a black African named Salem Prince was introduced to General George Washington as the sharpshooter who killed Major Pitcairn at Bunker Hill (June 1775). April 19th is celebrated as a holiday only in Massachusetts. April 19, 1943 - The Warsaw Ghetto Revolt - When Nazi SS units tried to remove the remaining occupants of the Ghetto for extermination and slave labor, Jewish resistance to tyranny, slavery and religious persecution was reborn and set the spark that created the modern state of Israel. A reading of the events surrounding the Warsaw Ghetto Revolt in 1943 comes from a Jewish synagogue: "Congregation: We remember the Warsaw ghetto on the dawn of the first day of Passover, April 19, 1943. The Nazis were coming to complete the deportation of the remaining Jews to the death camps. A shot rang out on Nalevki Street, signaling the beginning of the revolt. A few hundred Jews with a few guns and hand grenades had decided to resist the tremendous power of the German army and the Gestapo. The courageous men and women of the Jewish Fighting Organization held out for forty-two days." From the Warsaw Ghetto on April 23, 1943 Mordecai Anielewicz observed "The Germans ran twice from the Ghetto....The dream of my life has risen to become a fact....Jewish armed resistance and revenge are facts. I have been witness to the magnificent, heroic fighting of Jewish men of battle." A majority voting bloc of American Jews now presents a puzzling moral and political paradox; they support victim disarmament by registration of guns and gun owners. The unregistered guns used by the Warsaw Jews did not have trigger locks. April 19, 1993 - Massacre of Branch Davidian religious minority at Waco, Texas. Clinton appointee Attorney General Janet Reno accepted "responsibility" for the disaster, but the principle of accountability was ignored. On February 28, federal paramilitary forces laid siege to the Branch Davidians’ home and 6 Davidians and 4 ATF agents died in the initial raid. The final assault on April resulted in the deaths of 76 Branch Davidians, including two unborn children. Steven Barry, a U.S. Army Special Forces soldier and others protested military involvement, but involvement of the elite Delta Force was covered up along with many other blunders by the Clinton Administration. Sergeant First Class Barry continued his protest by founding the Special Forces Underground and publishing a political warfare journal called “The Register” and was eventually hounded into retirement. Nine Branch Davidians remain imprisoned. Nobody from the Clinton White House, Reno's Department of Justice, the FBI, the BATF or the Department of Defense has been tried, convicted or jailed. News services carried stories of a few federal demotions and promotions of those involved. April 19, 1995 – Oklahoma City - Murrah Federal Building bombed. Timothy McVeigh was among many Americans expressing frustration at the lack of accountability for the Waco Incident. But McVeigh was convicted of bombing the federal building and sentenced to death. But could the motive for the bombing have been removed if Clinton, Reno, the FBI, the BATF and military had been truly held accountable "with justice for all"? A newspaper clipping found in Timothy McVeigh's car was titled "Waco Shootout Evokes Memory of Warsaw '43'", comparing the Branch Davidian tragedy with the Nazi assault on the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943, was a letter to the editor published in The Wall Street Journal. Federal prosecutors claimed the Waco siege so angered McVeigh that he masterminded and carried out the bombing in Oklahoma City. April 19, 2000 - Miami - the Elian Gonzalez standoff - As the case of 6-year-old Cuban refugee Elian Gonzalez hurtles to a confrontation between Janet Reno and the boy's Miami relatives, news reports speculate that Reno will not send U.S. Marshals to remove Elian tomorrow (April 19). The dark legacy of the Waco Incident hangs heavily over the Clinton Administration and Janet Reno's Department of Justice. Members of the Cuban-American community in Miami have vowed to resist any attempt to physically remove Elian from his Miami relatives. Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear list members, In the early 1990s there were two tragic events in the USA that were linked and occurred excatly two years apart. The first event was the final assault on the Branch Davidian compound at Mount Carmel in Waco, Texas at dawn on April 19, 1993. On February 28, 1993, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Booty and Firearms raided the Branch Davidian ranch, resulting in the deaths of four agents and six Davidians. The subsequent 51-day siege by the FBI ended on April 19 when fire completely consumed the complex, killing 76 people, including 21 children and Davidian leader David Koresh - inspiring Timothy McVeigh to carry out the Oklahoma City bombing exactly 2 years later. Ke/Ju period was running. Tr L6 Jupiter in H3 exactly aspected natal L3 Mercury in H7 and tr L4 Venus, tr L3 Mercury and tr L10 Moon in H9 . Natal L6 Jupiter exactly aspected tr L10 Mars in H1 and tr L11 Moon in H9. Tr L8 Saturn in H8 exactly aspected natal L6 Jupiter in H5. Tr Rahu exactly conjunct H5 MEP, aspecting H1, H9 and H11. Transit Ketu conjunct H11 MEP, aspecting H3, H5 and H7. This day had massive afflictions operating in the chart. The transits were almost as bad when the raid began on February 28, 1993. The second event was the Oklahoma city bombing. At 9:02 AM CST on Wednesday April 19, 1995 in the street in front of the Alfred P Murrag Federal Building a rented Ryder truck containing about 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) of explosive material detonated. The effect of the bombing on the city was immense. Beyond the death toll - 168 confirmed dead including 19 children and one rescue worker, plus an unidentifed leg indicating a possible 169th victim. The bomb injured over 800 people and destroyed or damaged more than 300 buildings in the surrounding area, leaving several hundred people homeless and shutting down offices in downtown Oklahoma city. The nation went into mourning for several days and President Clinton attended the Memorial Service for the victims. The chief perpetrator Timmothy McVeigh was captured the same day, tried and found guilty of the crime and subesequently executed. His co-conspirators were captured, tried and imprisoned. Ke/Me period was running. Transit Ketu was conjunct tr L3 Mercury in H10. Natal L6 Jupiter was closely aspecting tr L4 Venus in H9. Transit L8 Saturn in H8 closely aspected natal L8 Saturn in H5. Tr L6 Jupiter was exactly conjunct H5 MEP and aspecting H1, H11 and H9 and transit L10 Mars in H1. Both events are shown to have been accompanied by massive afflictions in the SAMVA USA chart. The astrological imprint couldn´t be any clearer. Best wishes, Thor Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Dear Cosmologer, In your analysis of your first case, you have said that : Tr L6 Jupiter in H3 exactly aspected natal L3 Mercury in H7 and tr L4 Venus, tr L3 Mercury and tr L10 Moon in H9 . Natal L6 Jupiter exactly aspected tr L10 Mars in H1 and tr L11 Moon in H9. : tr Moon is mentioned as 10th lord and 11th lord ..tr Moon is Lagna Lord Isnt it ? Thanks Sadasivan --- Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > Dear list members, > > In the early 1990s there were two tragic events in > the USA that were linked and occurred excatly two > years apart. > > The first event was the final assault on the > Branch Davidian compound at Mount Carmel in Waco, > Texas at dawn on April 19, 1993. On February 28, > 1993, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Booty and > Firearms raided the Branch Davidian ranch, resulting > in the deaths of four agents and six Davidians. The > subsequent 51-day siege by the FBI ended on April 19 > when fire completely consumed the complex, killing > 76 people, including 21 children and Davidian leader > David Koresh - inspiring Timothy McVeigh to carry > out the Oklahoma City bombing exactly 2 years later. > Ke/Ju period was running. Tr L6 Jupiter in H3 > exactly aspected natal L3 Mercury in H7 and tr L4 > Venus, tr L3 Mercury and tr L10 Moon in H9 . Natal > L6 Jupiter exactly aspected tr L10 Mars in H1 and tr > L11 Moon in H9. Tr L8 Saturn in H8 exactly aspected > natal L6 Jupiter in H5. Tr Rahu exactly conjunct H5 > MEP, aspecting H1, H9 and H11. Transit Ketu conjunct > H11 MEP, aspecting H3, H5 and H7. This day had > massive afflictions > operating in the chart. The transits were almost as > bad when the raid began on February 28, 1993. > > The second event was the Oklahoma city bombing. At > 9:02 AM CST on Wednesday April 19, 1995 in the > street in front of the Alfred P Murrag Federal > Building a rented Ryder truck containing about 5,000 > pounds (2,300 kg) of explosive material detonated. > The effect of the bombing on the city was immense. > Beyond the death toll - 168 confirmed dead including > 19 children and one rescue worker, plus an > unidentifed leg indicating a possible 169th victim. > The bomb injured over 800 people and destroyed or > damaged more than 300 buildings in the surrounding > area, leaving several hundred people homeless and > shutting down offices in downtown Oklahoma city. The > nation went into mourning for several days and > President Clinton attended the Memorial Service for > the victims. The chief perpetrator Timmothy McVeigh > was captured the same day, tried and found guilty of > the crime and subesequently executed. His > co-conspirators were captured, tried and imprisoned. > Ke/Me period was running. Transit Ketu was > conjunct tr L3 Mercury in H10. Natal L6 Jupiter was > closely aspecting tr L4 Venus in H9. Transit L8 > Saturn in H8 closely aspected natal L8 Saturn in H5. > Tr L6 Jupiter was exactly conjunct H5 MEP and > aspecting H1, H11 and H9 and transit L10 Mars in H1. > > Both events are shown to have been accompanied by > massive afflictions in the SAMVA USA chart. The > astrological imprint couldn´t be any clearer. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > > > Never miss an email again! > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail > arrives. Check it out. ______________________________\ ____ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Dear John, Thanks for the additional information. The two events on April 19, 1993 and April 19, 1995 were linked as the latter was intended as some sort of symbolic revenge for the former. In the events cited it was the general transit pattern at those times that was exceptional and indicating setbacks. In SA, unlike western sun-sign astrology, specific days of the year, like April 19, do not carry much significance as per the placement of the fast moving sun. On that day, the sun is at 4° Sagittarius H6. It is badly placed and weak in the house of conflict, but unaspected. Thus the placement of the Sun is not especially indicative of the events that may transpire on that day. If we were to consider days, when the transit L2 Sun comes under strain would be for instance when it crosses the stationary nodal axis, especially if the transit nodes are in bad houses (H8, H12 and H6) - and more so if other adverse transit contacts enter the picture. At such times the functional and general indications of the sun would come under strain and possibly suffer a setback. As the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart is afflicted, a transit affliction of the natal Sun would potentially be more difficult, as the slow moving malefics in the 21° Cancer rising chart could be having a long standing close affliction of this placements. Such placments are usually indicative of serious strain or setbacks for the US President. One such episode occurs in the Spring of this year. However, the aspect of transit L8 Saturn in H1 on natal L2 Sun in H7 will not become exact at that time. It will be close, but not reach the exact point. This may have a bearing on the outcome, such that the situation becomes hopefully less serious. Other potentially strained days during the year would be when the Sun is traversing the natal nodal axis at 18° Aries/Libra, or aspected by the nodes, as well as when it is conjunct or opposite or aspected by natal L6 Jupiter at 5° Scorpio and the same for natal L8 Saturn at 27° Scorpio H5. The key message of my post, however, was the period and transit combination surrounding these two events, in relation to the SAMVA USA chart, were dramatic and exceptional and consistent with the setbacks that occurred. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , JohnTWB <blazingstar1776 wrote: > > Thanks Thor > > Please find pasted here, below, snippets of some events the history April 19. > > Thanks, > > John > > History of April 19th: Oklahoma City, Waco, Warsaw, Concord > Sun Tzu's Newswire (STN 2000-025) > by Richard Rongstad > Tuesday, April 18, 2000 > 10:30 am U.S. Pacific Time > > April 19th is just around the corner. Are you ready? The nineteenth day of April has very special meanings for all Americans, and all Jews. April 19th is a crossroads in history where suffering and sacrifice, patriotism and tyranny, liberty and slavery, religious persecution and bigotry all intersect, again, and again. For citizens of Massachusetts, April 19th marks Patriot's Day and for all Americans, the date of the " Shot heard 'round the world " , when colonial militias defied orders to surrender their guns and routed King George's redcoats. For Jews, April 19th is the day Nazi storm troops surrounded the Warsaw Ghetto, sparking a revolt led by a few young Jews who refused to be enslaved or incinerated. For modern American patriots, April 19th marks the day 76 members of a religious minority died in an assault by federal paramilitary forces, aided and advised by regular military units. For the people of Oklahoma City, April 19th marks the day that 168 people died in an > explosion at the Murrah Federal Building. > > April 19, 1775 - The shot heard 'round the world: The Battles at Lexington Green and Concord Bridge. Warned by Paul Revere, William Dawes and Samuel Prescott, the Massachusetts militia mobilized to block a larger, better trained British force coming to seize militia weapons at Concord. At Lexington, Major John Pitcairn leading a detachment of Royal Marines told the colonists there: " Disperse, you rebels! Damn you, through down your arms, and disperse! " Nobody knows who fired the first shot at Lexington Green, but the colonial militia refused confiscation of their guns and the British drove them back in the initial encounter. After regrouping the colonial militia did better, turning back the British at Concord Bridge and forcing a disorderly British flight back to Boston. The road back became a deadly gauntlet as farmers from " every Middlesex village and farm " sniped from behind stone walls, trees, barns, houses, all the way back to Charlestown peninsula. By nightfall the > British survivors were safe under the protection of the Royal Navy and British army at Boston, having lost 273 men that day, while the Americans lost 95. The following year, the colonial Americans declared independence, a date now marked as July 4th, a national holiday. Months after participating in the actions at Lexington and Concord, a former slave, a black African named Salem Prince was introduced to General George Washington as the sharpshooter who killed Major Pitcairn at Bunker Hill (June 1775). April 19th is celebrated as a holiday only in Massachusetts. > > April 19, 1943 - The Warsaw Ghetto Revolt - When Nazi SS units tried to remove the remaining occupants of the Ghetto for extermination and slave labor, Jewish resistance to tyranny, slavery and religious persecution was reborn and set the spark that created the modern state of Israel. A reading of the events surrounding the Warsaw Ghetto Revolt in 1943 comes from a Jewish synagogue: " Congregation: We remember the Warsaw ghetto on the dawn of the first day of Passover, April 19, 1943. The Nazis were coming to complete the deportation of the remaining Jews to the death camps. A shot rang out on Nalevki Street, signaling the beginning of the revolt. A few hundred Jews with a few guns and hand grenades had decided to resist the tremendous power of the German army and the Gestapo. The courageous men and women of the Jewish Fighting Organization held out for forty-two days. " From the Warsaw Ghetto on April 23, 1943 Mordecai Anielewicz observed " The Germans ran twice from the > Ghetto....The dream of my life has risen to become a fact....Jewish armed resistance and revenge are facts. I have been witness to the magnificent, heroic fighting of Jewish men of battle. " A majority voting bloc of American Jews now presents a puzzling moral and political paradox; they support victim disarmament by registration of guns and gun owners. The unregistered guns used by the Warsaw Jews did not have trigger locks. > > April 19, 1993 - Massacre of Branch Davidian religious minority at Waco, Texas. Clinton appointee Attorney General Janet Reno accepted " responsibility " for the disaster, but the principle of accountability was ignored. On February 28, federal paramilitary forces laid siege to the Branch Davidians' home and 6 Davidians and 4 ATF agents died in the initial raid. The final assault on April resulted in the deaths of 76 Branch Davidians, including two unborn children. Steven Barry, a U.S. Army Special Forces soldier and others protested military involvement, but involvement of the elite Delta Force was covered up along with many other blunders by the Clinton Administration. Sergeant First Class Barry continued his protest by founding the Special Forces Underground and publishing a political warfare journal called " The Register " and was eventually hounded into retirement. Nine Branch Davidians remain imprisoned. Nobody from the Clinton White House, Reno's Department of Justice, > the FBI, the BATF or the Department of Defense has been tried, convicted or jailed. News services carried stories of a few federal demotions and promotions of those involved. > > April 19, 1995 – Oklahoma City - Murrah Federal Building bombed. Timothy McVeigh was among many Americans expressing frustration at the lack of accountability for the Waco Incident. But McVeigh was convicted of bombing the federal building and sentenced to death. But could the motive for the bombing have been removed if Clinton, Reno, the FBI, the BATF and military had been truly held accountable " with justice for all " ? A newspaper clipping found in Timothy McVeigh's car was titled " Waco Shootout Evokes Memory of Warsaw '43' " , comparing the Branch Davidian tragedy with the Nazi assault on the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943, was a letter to the editor published in The Wall Street Journal. Federal prosecutors claimed the Waco siege so angered McVeigh that he masterminded and carried out the bombing in Oklahoma City. > > April 19, 2000 - Miami - the Elian Gonzalez standoff - As the case of 6-year-old Cuban refugee Elian Gonzalez hurtles to a confrontation between Janet Reno and the boy's Miami relatives, news reports speculate that Reno will not send U.S. Marshals to remove Elian tomorrow (April 19). The dark legacy of the Waco Incident hangs heavily over the Clinton Administration and Janet Reno's Department of Justice. Members of the Cuban-American community in Miami have vowed to resist any attempt to physically remove Elian from his Miami relatives. > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear list members, > > In the early 1990s there were two tragic events in the USA that were linked and occurred excatly two years apart. > > The first event was the final assault on the Branch Davidian compound at Mount Carmel in Waco, Texas at dawn on April 19, 1993. On February 28, 1993, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Booty and Firearms raided the Branch Davidian ranch, resulting in the deaths of four agents and six Davidians. The subsequent 51-day siege by the FBI ended on April 19 when fire completely consumed the complex, killing 76 people, including 21 children and Davidian leader David Koresh - inspiring Timothy McVeigh to carry out the Oklahoma City bombing exactly 2 years later. Ke/Ju period was running. Tr L6 Jupiter in H3 exactly aspected natal L3 Mercury in H7 and tr L4 Venus, tr L3 Mercury and tr L10 Moon in H9 . Natal L6 Jupiter exactly aspected tr L10 Mars in H1 and tr L11 Moon in H9. Tr L8 Saturn in H8 exactly aspected natal L6 Jupiter in H5. Tr Rahu exactly conjunct H5 MEP, aspecting H1, H9 and H11. Transit Ketu conjunct H11 MEP, aspecting H3, H5 and H7. This day had massive afflictions > operating in the chart. The transits were almost as bad when the raid began on February 28, 1993. > > The second event was the Oklahoma city bombing. At 9:02 AM CST on Wednesday April 19, 1995 in the street in front of the Alfred P Murrag Federal Building a rented Ryder truck containing about 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) of explosive material detonated. The effect of the bombing on the city was immense. Beyond the death toll - 168 confirmed dead including 19 children and one rescue worker, plus an unidentifed leg indicating a possible 169th victim. The bomb injured over 800 people and destroyed or damaged more than 300 buildings in the surrounding area, leaving several hundred people homeless and shutting down offices in downtown Oklahoma city. The nation went into mourning for several days and President Clinton attended the Memorial Service for the victims. The chief perpetrator Timmothy McVeigh was captured the same day, tried and found guilty of the crime and subesequently executed. His co-conspirators were captured, tried and imprisoned. > Ke/Me period was running. Transit Ketu was conjunct tr L3 Mercury in H10. Natal L6 Jupiter was closely aspecting tr L4 Venus in H9. Transit L8 Saturn in H8 closely aspected natal L8 Saturn in H5. Tr L6 Jupiter was exactly conjunct H5 MEP and aspecting H1, H11 and H9 and transit L10 Mars in H1. > > Both events are shown to have been accompanied by massive afflictions in the SAMVA USA chart. The astrological imprint couldn´t be any clearer. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > > Never miss an email again! > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. > > > > > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Dear Sadasivan, Thank you for pointing out the typos. Indeed, Moon is L1. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote: > > Dear Cosmologer, > > In your analysis of your first case, you have > said that > > : Tr L6 Jupiter in H3 > exactly aspected natal L3 Mercury in H7 and tr L4 > Venus, tr L3 Mercury and tr L10 Moon in H9 . Natal > L6 Jupiter exactly aspected tr L10 Mars in H1 and tr > L11 Moon in H9. : > > tr Moon is mentioned as 10th lord and 11th lord > .tr Moon is Lagna Lord Isnt it ? > > Thanks > > Sadasivan > --- Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > > Dear list members, > > > > In the early 1990s there were two tragic events in > > the USA that were linked and occurred excatly two > > years apart. > > > > The first event was the final assault on the > > Branch Davidian compound at Mount Carmel in Waco, > > Texas at dawn on April 19, 1993. On February 28, > > 1993, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Booty and > > Firearms raided the Branch Davidian ranch, resulting > > in the deaths of four agents and six Davidians. The > > subsequent 51-day siege by the FBI ended on April 19 > > when fire completely consumed the complex, killing > > 76 people, including 21 children and Davidian leader > > David Koresh - inspiring Timothy McVeigh to carry > > out the Oklahoma City bombing exactly 2 years later. > > Ke/Ju period was running. Tr L6 Jupiter in H3 > > exactly aspected natal L3 Mercury in H7 and tr L4 > > Venus, tr L3 Mercury and tr L10 Moon in H9 . Natal > > L6 Jupiter exactly aspected tr L10 Mars in H1 and tr > > L11 Moon in H9. Tr L8 Saturn in H8 exactly aspected > > natal L6 Jupiter in H5. Tr Rahu exactly conjunct H5 > > MEP, aspecting H1, H9 and H11. Transit Ketu conjunct > > H11 MEP, aspecting H3, H5 and H7. This day had > > massive afflictions > > operating in the chart. The transits were almost as > > bad when the raid began on February 28, 1993. > > > > The second event was the Oklahoma city bombing. At > > 9:02 AM CST on Wednesday April 19, 1995 in the > > street in front of the Alfred P Murrag Federal > > Building a rented Ryder truck containing about 5,000 > > pounds (2,300 kg) of explosive material detonated. > > The effect of the bombing on the city was immense. > > Beyond the death toll - 168 confirmed dead including > > 19 children and one rescue worker, plus an > > unidentifed leg indicating a possible 169th victim. > > The bomb injured over 800 people and destroyed or > > damaged more than 300 buildings in the surrounding > > area, leaving several hundred people homeless and > > shutting down offices in downtown Oklahoma city. The > > nation went into mourning for several days and > > President Clinton attended the Memorial Service for > > the victims. The chief perpetrator Timmothy McVeigh > > was captured the same day, tried and found guilty of > > the crime and subesequently executed. His > > co-conspirators were captured, tried and imprisoned. > > Ke/Me period was running. Transit Ketu was > > conjunct tr L3 Mercury in H10. Natal L6 Jupiter was > > closely aspecting tr L4 Venus in H9. Transit L8 > > Saturn in H8 closely aspected natal L8 Saturn in H5. > > Tr L6 Jupiter was exactly conjunct H5 MEP and > > aspecting H1, H11 and H9 and transit L10 Mars in H1. > > > > Both events are shown to have been accompanied by > > massive afflictions in the SAMVA USA chart. The > > astrological imprint couldn´t be any clearer. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > Never miss an email again! > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail > > arrives. Check it out. > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. > http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Dear David, Thank you for the kind words. The historical events are coming out very clearly! More interestingly, the events in the USA are playing out as predicted, with civil dissent over the war in Iraq now on the increase, consistent with the significant affliction of transit Ketu in H2 MEP to L4 Venus in H6 in the chart. Transit Ketu is also under the aspect of natal L8 Saturn in H5. As mentioned before, the situation is predicted to get worse in coming months, when transit L6 Jupiter in H5 conjuncts the natal L8 Saturn, while aspecting the transit L8 Saturn in H1, which in turn will be closely aspecting L2 Sun in H7. Natally, L8 Saturn aspects L2 Sun, suggesting a karmic predisposition to setbacks or strain with regard to functional indications of H2 and the general indications of the Sun. President Bush is now as unpopular in the polls as Nixon was on the eve of his resignation from the Presidency in August of 1974. Interestingly, I saw a very impressive documentary last night, The US versus John Lennon. After moving to the USA in the 1970s former Beatle Lennon became a peace activist, with staged media events for peace, so called bag-ins or bed-ins. He also wrote the song that became the song of the peace movement in the 1970s, Give Peace a Chance. He also put up posters with " War is over - if you want it " in major cities. As he met with and established friendships with famous peace-radicals, he beame a target of the Nixon administration and FBI. He was surveilled and followed. Then the US government tried to revoke his passport and throw him out of the country. Lennon took on the government to court and won the case! When he was given the Green Card, giving him a right to live permanently in the USA, a reported asked him if he wanted to get back at the US politicians that had made his life so difficult for years of legal wranglings. Lennon humorously and poignantly quipped, " I am not that way. I believe 'Time wounds all heels'. " I don´t think there is any accident the movie is coming out now. The protest against the war in Iraq is being modelled on the protest against the Vietnam war. Let us also recall that predicted last year that the change of signs of all the slow moving planets in October/November 2006 would result in a change in trends. This is becoming more clear with each passing day. The US Congress has changed hands and is now Democratically controlled and Bush is presiding over an increasingly unpopular war. It is amazing how effective SA astrology is, also when based on an authorative mundane chart for a country. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david wrote: > > dear thor... > > great work! > > this gets more exciting every day! > > finally! the chart of USA! > > david hawthorne > - > Cosmologer > samva > Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:54 PM > 2 tragic events - Waco assault & Oklahoma bombing - in SAMVA USA chart > > > Dear list members, > > In the early 1990s there were two tragic events in the USA that were linked and occurred excatly two years apart. > > The first event was the final assault on the Branch Davidian compound at Mount Carmel in Waco, Texas at dawn on April 19, 1993. On February 28, 1993, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Booty and Firearms raided the Branch Davidian ranch, resulting in the deaths of four agents and six Davidians. The subsequent 51-day siege by the FBI ended on April 19 when fire completely consumed the complex, killing 76 people, including 21 children and Davidian leader David Koresh - inspiring Timothy McVeigh to carry out the Oklahoma City bombing exactly 2 years later. Ke/Ju period was running. Tr L6 Jupiter in H3 exactly aspected natal L3 Mercury in H7 and tr L4 Venus, tr L3 Mercury and tr L10 Moon in H9 . Natal L6 Jupiter exactly aspected tr L10 Mars in H1 and tr L11 Moon in H9. Tr L8 Saturn in H8 exactly aspected natal L6 Jupiter in H5. Tr Rahu exactly conjunct H5 MEP, aspecting H1, H9 and H11. Transit Ketu conjunct H11 MEP, aspecting H3, H5 and H7. This day had massive afflictions operating in the chart. The transits were almost as bad when the raid began on February 28, 1993. > > The second event was the Oklahoma city bombing. At 9:02 AM CST on Wednesday April 19, 1995 in the street in front of the Alfred P Murrag Federal Building a rented Ryder truck containing about 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) of explosive material detonated. The effect of the bombing on the city was immense. Beyond the death toll - 168 confirmed dead including 19 children and one rescue worker, plus an unidentifed leg indicating a possible 169th victim. The bomb injured over 800 people and destroyed or damaged more than 300 buildings in the surrounding area, leaving several hundred people homeless and shutting down offices in downtown Oklahoma city. The nation went into mourning for several days and President Clinton attended the Memorial Service for the victims. The chief perpetrator Timmothy McVeigh was captured the same day, tried and found guilty of the crime and subesequently executed. His co-conspirators were captured, tried and imprisoned. > Ke/Me period was running. Transit Ketu was conjunct tr L3 Mercury in H10. Natal L6 Jupiter was closely aspecting tr L4 Venus in H9. Transit L8 Saturn in H8 closely aspected natal L8 Saturn in H5. Tr L6 Jupiter was exactly conjunct H5 MEP and aspecting H1, H11 and H9 and transit L10 Mars in H1. > > Both events are shown to have been accompanied by massive afflictions in the SAMVA USA chart. The astrological imprint couldn´t be any clearer. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > > -- ---------- > Never miss an email again! > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. > > > -- ---------- -- ---------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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