Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 (I posted this morning, doesn't seem to have shown up; re-posting) Dear List, Data released at 10am EST showed that new home sales in the US has taken the biggest plunge in 16 years -17.3% from 2005 levels after setting records for 5 straight years. The recession drop in 1990 saw -17.8%. In the USA SAMVA chart: Note the exact affliction of the Moon in (afflicted) H10 by tr Ke and natal Ra with weak dispositor, Ma in H6 under natal Ra. It will be interesting to see how the coming economic reports are seen from this chart. Best regards, Vyas Munidas Best regards, Vyas Munidas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Dear Vyas, Thanks for the interesting information. In addition to the transits at the time of the news release, the SAMVA USA chart the Ve/Ju period and following notable transits are operating: - Natal L4 Venus is afflicted by tr Ketu in H2 - Transit Rahu in H8 is afflicting H4, H12 and H2 - Transit L4 Venus is in infancy in H8 - Transit L6 Jupiter in H5 MEP and afflicting H9, H11 anbd H1 The evidence is clear. It would not be an easy time for the indications of the fourth house, including fixed assets. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > (I posted this morning, doesn't seem to have shown up; re-posting) > > Dear List, > > Data released at 10am EST showed that new home sales in the US has taken the > biggest plunge in 16 years -17.3% from 2005 levels after setting records for > 5 straight years. The recession drop in 1990 saw -17.8%. > > In the USA SAMVA chart: > Note the exact affliction of the Moon in (afflicted) H10 by tr Ke and natal > Ra with weak dispositor, Ma in H6 under natal Ra. It will be interesting to > see how the coming economic reports are seen from this chart. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Dear list, In the rectified chart, the dasha is Ve/Sa/Ra. FM Venus (luxury, losses) transits H4 , Saturn, the bhukti lord, is the ruler of H4 and is retrograde in H9 in the same degree as natal Mars, and transit Rahu is in H4. Transit FM Mars is afflicting the MEP2 (wealth), MEP5 (investments), MEP8 (easy gains), and MEP9, where retrograde Saturn is placed in transit. It seems that the old retrograde Saturn, L4, being placed in a house afflicted by Mars, L6 in D1 and L1 in D8, is also clearly showing this event. Best wishes, Jorge On 1/27/07, cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear Vyas,Thanks for the interesting information.In addition to the transits at the time of the news release, the SAMVA USA chart the Ve/Ju period and following notable transits areoperating:- Natal L4 Venus is afflicted by tr Ketu in H2- Transit Rahu in H8 is afflicting H4, H12 and H2- Transit L4 Venus is in infancy in H8 - Transit L6 Jupiter in H5 MEP and afflicting H9, H11 anbd H1The evidence is clear. It would not be an easy time for theindications of the fourth house, including fixed assets.Best wishes,Thor SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote:>> (I posted this morning, doesn't seem to have shown up; re-posting) >> Dear List,>> Data released at 10am EST showed that new home sales in the US hastaken the> biggest plunge in 16 years -17.3% from 2005 levels after settingrecords for> 5 straight years. The recession drop in 1990 saw - 17.8%.>> In the USA SAMVA chart:> Note the exact affliction of the Moon in (afflicted) H10 by tr Keand natal> Ra with weak dispositor, Ma in H6 under natal Ra. It will beinteresting to > see how the coming economic reports are seen from this chart.>>> Best regards,>> Vyas Munidas>>>>> Best regards,>> Vyas Munidas> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Dear Jorge, Thanks - I always look forward to the comparison. A few of questions please and some comments, included below in CAPS below. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino <SAMVA > Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:45 AM Re: Re: USA SAMVA - New home sales in 2006 sees biggest % dip in 16 years > Dear list, > > In the rectified chart, the dasha is *Ve/Sa/Ra*. *FM* Venus (luxury, > losses) transits *H4*, Saturn, the *bhukti lord*, is the ruler of *H4* and > is retrograde in H9 in the same degree as natal Mars, and transit Rahu is > in > *H4*. 1) WHAT'S THE RELEVANCE OF SATURN BEING IN THE SAME DEGREE AS NATAL MARS SINCE NATAL MARS DOES NOT AFFLICT NATAL SATURN? 2) TR RAHU IS IN H4 AND UNAFFLICTING ANY PLANET OR MEP. HOW IS THIS PROBLEMATIC? - IT'S CLOSE TO NATAL SU, LO10 IN H8, BUT THE TR SUN IS STRONG ON THE MEP OF H3 POWERING UP H9 WHERE SATURN TRANSITS. THIS ADDS BALANCE TO THE WEAKNESS OF THAT HOUSE. 3) TR VE IS UNAFFLICTING AND UNAFFLICTED IN H4. THIS ALSO IS NOT PROBLEMATIC. > > *Transit FM Mars is afflicting* the MEP2 (wealth), MEP5 (investments), > MEP8 > (easy gains), and *MEP9*, *where retrograde Saturn is placed in transit*. 4) I AGREE HERE. HOWEVER, I STILL DON'T SEE THE RELEVANCE OF THE RETROGRADE ACTION OF SATURN AS NO IMPORTANCE IS GIVEN PER SA. IF IT'S A TESTED PRINCIPLE BY YOU AND DESERVES RECOGNITION AND IS BLESSED BY THE PROFESSOR'S AGREEMENT, PLEASE BRING IT FORWARD > > It seems that the old retrograde Saturn, L4, being placed in a house > afflicted by Mars, L6 in D1 and L1 in D8, is also clearly showing this > event. 5) IF THIS D CHART IS RELEVANT, IT WOULD SHOW THE RESULTS CONSTANTLY. REAL ESTATE IN THE USA BEHAVES AVERAGE TO ABOVE AVERAGE VS WORLD REAL ESTATE SALES. 6) THERE IS NO OBVIOUS TRIGGER IN THIS CHART FOR THE EVENT, THAT I CAN SEE... DID I MISS IT? 7) THE CAPS add a 'tone' of unpoliteness - not intended in the least. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > > > On 1/27/07, cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: >> >> Dear Vyas, >> >> Thanks for the interesting information. >> >> In addition to the transits at the time of the news release, the >> SAMVA USA chart the Ve/Ju period and following notable transits are >> operating: >> >> - Natal L4 Venus is afflicted by tr Ketu in H2 >> - Transit Rahu in H8 is afflicting H4, H12 and H2 >> - Transit L4 Venus is in infancy in H8 >> - Transit L6 Jupiter in H5 MEP and afflicting H9, H11 anbd H1 >> >> The evidence is clear. It would not be an easy time for the >> indications of the fourth house, including fixed assets. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Thor >> >> SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: >> > >> > (I posted this morning, doesn't seem to have shown up; re-posting) >> > >> > Dear List, >> > >> > Data released at 10am EST showed that new home sales in the US has >> taken the >> > biggest plunge in 16 years -17.3% from 2005 levels after setting >> records for >> > 5 straight years. The recession drop in 1990 saw -17.8%. >> > >> > In the USA SAMVA chart: >> > Note the exact affliction of the Moon in (afflicted) H10 by tr Ke >> and natal >> > Ra with weak dispositor, Ma in H6 under natal Ra. It will be >> interesting to >> > see how the coming economic reports are seen from this chart. >> > >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Vyas Munidas >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Vyas Munidas >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 My dear Vyas, I am just presenting what my mind sees. If you want to be sure about the validity of these comments, you have to test them by yourself. The main idea here is to bring the attention to the fact of the operational bhukti being the lord of H4, and its weak placement in transit, as H9 is afflited. The other comments, please ignore them. Best wishes, Jorge On 1/27/07, Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Jorge,Thanks - I always look forward to the comparison. A few of questions pleaseand some comments, included below in CAPS below. Best regards,Vyas Munidas- " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino< SAMVA >Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:45 AMRe: Re: USA SAMVA - New home sales in 2006 sees biggest %dip in 16 years> Dear list,>> In the rectified chart, the dasha is *Ve/Sa/Ra*. *FM* Venus (luxury, > losses) transits *H4*, Saturn, the *bhukti lord*, is the ruler of *H4* and> is retrograde in H9 in the same degree as natal Mars, and transit Rahu is> in> *H4*.1) WHAT'S THE RELEVANCE OF SATURN BEING IN THE SAME DEGREE AS NATAL MARS SINCE NATAL MARS DOES NOT AFFLICT NATAL SATURN?2) TR RAHU IS IN H4 AND UNAFFLICTING ANY PLANET OR MEP. HOW IS THISPROBLEMATIC? - IT'S CLOSE TO NATAL SU, LO10 IN H8, BUT THE TR SUN IS STRONG ON THE MEP OF H3 POWERING UP H9 WHERE SATURN TRANSITS. THIS ADDS BALANCE TO THEWEAKNESS OF THAT HOUSE.3) TR VE IS UNAFFLICTING AND UNAFFLICTED IN H4. THIS ALSO IS NOTPROBLEMATIC.>> *Transit FM Mars is afflicting* the MEP2 (wealth), MEP5 (investments), > MEP8> (easy gains), and *MEP9*, *where retrograde Saturn is placed in transit*.4) I AGREE HERE. HOWEVER, I STILL DON'T SEE THE RELEVANCE OF THE RETROGRADEACTION OF SATURN AS NO IMPORTANCE IS GIVEN PER SA. IF IT'S A TESTED PRINCIPLE BY YOU AND DESERVES RECOGNITION AND IS BLESSED BY THE PROFESSOR'SAGREEMENT, PLEASE BRING IT FORWARD>> It seems that the old retrograde Saturn, L4, being placed in a house> afflicted by Mars, L6 in D1 and L1 in D8, is also clearly showing this > event.5) IF THIS D CHART IS RELEVANT, IT WOULD SHOW THE RESULTS CONSTANTLY. REALESTATE IN THE USA BEHAVES AVERAGE TO ABOVE AVERAGE VS WORLD REAL ESTATESALES.6) THERE IS NO OBVIOUS TRIGGER IN THIS CHART FOR THE EVENT, THAT I CAN SEE... DID I MISS IT?7) THE CAPS add a 'tone' of unpoliteness - not intended in the least. >> Best wishes,>> Jorge>>>>> On 1/27/07, cosmologer < cosmologer wrote:>>>> Dear Vyas,>>>> Thanks for the interesting information.>>>> In addition to the transits at the time of the news release, the >> SAMVA USA chart the Ve/Ju period and following notable transits are>> operating:>>>> - Natal L4 Venus is afflicted by tr Ketu in H2>> - Transit Rahu in H8 is afflicting H4, H12 and H2 >> - Transit L4 Venus is in infancy in H8>> - Transit L6 Jupiter in H5 MEP and afflicting H9, H11 anbd H1>>>> The evidence is clear. It would not be an easy time for the>> indications of the fourth house, including fixed assets. >>>> Best wishes,>>>> Thor>>>> SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote:>> > >> > (I posted this morning, doesn't seem to have shown up; re-posting)>> >>> > Dear List,>> >>> > Data released at 10am EST showed that new home sales in the US has >> taken the>> > biggest plunge in 16 years -17.3% from 2005 levels after setting>> records for>> > 5 straight years. The recession drop in 1990 saw -17.8%.>> > >> > In the USA SAMVA chart:>> > Note the exact affliction of the Moon in (afflicted) H10 by tr Ke>> and natal>> > Ra with weak dispositor, Ma in H6 under natal Ra. It will be >> interesting to>> > see how the coming economic reports are seen from this chart.>> >>> >>> > Best regards,>> >>> > Vyas Munidas>> > >> >>> >>> >>> > Best regards,>> >>> > Vyas Munidas>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Dearest Jorge, Ok. Because they are your respected comments, they do get some attention by me and others I am sure. Since my only background in astrology is SA, when something is new/different by prominent members, I am likely to ask. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino <SAMVA > Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:17 AM Re: Re: USA SAMVA - New home sales in 2006 sees biggest % dip in 16 years > My dear Vyas, > > I am just presenting what my mind sees. If you want to be sure about the > validity of these comments, you have to test them by yourself. > > The main idea here is to bring the attention to the fact of the > operational > bhukti being the lord of H4, and its weak placement in transit, as H9 is > afflited. > > The other comments, please ignore them. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On 1/27/07, Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: >> >> Dear Jorge, >> >> Thanks - I always look forward to the comparison. A few of questions >> please >> and some comments, included below in CAPS below. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> >> - >> " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino >> <SAMVA > >> Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:45 AM >> Re: Re: USA SAMVA - New home sales in 2006 sees biggest >> % >> dip in 16 years >> >> >> > Dear list, >> > >> > In the rectified chart, the dasha is *Ve/Sa/Ra*. *FM* Venus (luxury, >> > losses) transits *H4*, Saturn, the *bhukti lord*, is the ruler of *H4* >> and >> > is retrograde in H9 in the same degree as natal Mars, and transit Rahu >> is >> > in >> > *H4*. >> >> 1) WHAT'S THE RELEVANCE OF SATURN BEING IN THE SAME DEGREE AS NATAL MARS >> SINCE NATAL MARS DOES NOT AFFLICT NATAL SATURN? >> >> 2) TR RAHU IS IN H4 AND UNAFFLICTING ANY PLANET OR MEP. HOW IS THIS >> PROBLEMATIC? >> - IT'S CLOSE TO NATAL SU, LO10 IN H8, BUT THE TR SUN IS STRONG ON THE >> MEP OF H3 POWERING UP H9 WHERE SATURN TRANSITS. THIS ADDS BALANCE TO THE >> WEAKNESS OF THAT HOUSE. >> >> 3) TR VE IS UNAFFLICTING AND UNAFFLICTED IN H4. THIS ALSO IS NOT >> PROBLEMATIC. >> >> > >> > *Transit FM Mars is afflicting* the MEP2 (wealth), MEP5 (investments), >> > MEP8 >> > (easy gains), and *MEP9*, *where retrograde Saturn is placed in >> transit*. >> >> 4) I AGREE HERE. HOWEVER, I STILL DON'T SEE THE RELEVANCE OF THE >> RETROGRADE >> ACTION OF SATURN AS NO IMPORTANCE IS GIVEN PER SA. IF IT'S A TESTED >> PRINCIPLE BY YOU AND DESERVES RECOGNITION AND IS BLESSED BY THE >> PROFESSOR'S >> AGREEMENT, PLEASE BRING IT FORWARD >> >> > >> > It seems that the old retrograde Saturn, L4, being placed in a house >> > afflicted by Mars, L6 in D1 and L1 in D8, is also clearly showing this >> > event. >> >> 5) IF THIS D CHART IS RELEVANT, IT WOULD SHOW THE RESULTS CONSTANTLY. >> REAL >> ESTATE IN THE USA BEHAVES AVERAGE TO ABOVE AVERAGE VS WORLD REAL ESTATE >> SALES. >> >> 6) THERE IS NO OBVIOUS TRIGGER IN THIS CHART FOR THE EVENT, THAT I CAN >> SEE... DID I MISS IT? >> >> 7) THE CAPS add a 'tone' of unpoliteness - not intended in the least. >> >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > >> > Jorge >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 1/27/07, cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: >> >> >> >> Dear Vyas, >> >> >> >> Thanks for the interesting information. >> >> >> >> In addition to the transits at the time of the news release, the >> >> SAMVA USA chart the Ve/Ju period and following notable transits are >> >> operating: >> >> >> >> - Natal L4 Venus is afflicted by tr Ketu in H2 >> >> - Transit Rahu in H8 is afflicting H4, H12 and H2 >> >> - Transit L4 Venus is in infancy in H8 >> >> - Transit L6 Jupiter in H5 MEP and afflicting H9, H11 anbd H1 >> >> >> >> The evidence is clear. It would not be an easy time for the >> >> indications of the fourth house, including fixed assets. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> Thor >> >> >> >> SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > (I posted this morning, doesn't seem to have shown up; re-posting) >> >> > >> >> > Dear List, >> >> > >> >> > Data released at 10am EST showed that new home sales in the US has >> >> taken the >> >> > biggest plunge in 16 years -17.3% from 2005 levels after setting >> >> records for >> >> > 5 straight years. The recession drop in 1990 saw -17.8%. >> >> > >> >> > In the USA SAMVA chart: >> >> > Note the exact affliction of the Moon in (afflicted) H10 by tr Ke >> >> and natal >> >> > Ra with weak dispositor, Ma in H6 under natal Ra. It will be >> >> interesting to >> >> > see how the coming economic reports are seen from this chart. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Best regards, >> >> > >> >> > Vyas Munidas >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Best regards, >> >> > >> >> > Vyas Munidas >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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