was OIL:, Saturn , oil, real estate and the common man

[Guest guest]

could or other distinguished Jyotishis comment on

what other results will come from this long time strength of Saturn?

Would Real estate tend to rise as well as another commodity

represented by Saturn? If gas and real estate rise in price does

that not harm the cause of the common or poor class, a group

signified by Saturn? Will the poor or common man see an improvement

worldwide during such a period?

 

SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote:

>

> Dear List,

>

> Oil has been trading at levels not seen since the summer of 2005.

The price

> is pegged to stay buoyant and rise on the following accounts:

>

> 1) Ve transits the MT sign, Aq

> 2) Upcoming close Me-Sa aspect from tomorrow

> 3) From Mon 5 Feb, Su-Sa close aspect; Sa is in no longer in

extreme old age

> that week

> 4) From 7 Feb, Ma-Sa aspect

> 5) Ju-Sa aspect from mid Feb into the beginning of June

>

> Additionally, one may use the SAMVA USA chart to draw the

appropriate

> conclusions on the escalating Iraq war and its effect on

oil/energy costs

> considering the functional nature of the planets.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

[Guest guest]

Hello shukra69,

 

By no means am I a distinguished jyotishi, but I'll answer since it's to my

post you responded.

 

In each country you can expect those signified by Saturn to get a boost or

opposite per the functional nature of the planets in that country's chart.

 

In the SAMVA USA chart for example, if it's the correct one, you will find

tensions to the working man because of the rise in prices. In the Rectified

USA chart, you will find an increase in status/income to the working class.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

-

" shukra69 " <stephen4359

<SAMVA >

Friday, January 26, 2007 10:41 PM

was OIL:, Saturn , oil, real estate and the common man

 

 

could or other distinguished Jyotishis comment on

what other results will come from this long time strength of Saturn?

Would Real estate tend to rise as well as another commodity

represented by Saturn? If gas and real estate rise in price does

that not harm the cause of the common or poor class, a group

signified by Saturn? Will the poor or common man see an improvement

worldwide during such a period?

 

SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote:

>

> Dear List,

>

> Oil has been trading at levels not seen since the summer of 2005.

The price

> is pegged to stay buoyant and rise on the following accounts:

>

> 1) Ve transits the MT sign, Aq

> 2) Upcoming close Me-Sa aspect from tomorrow

> 3) From Mon 5 Feb, Su-Sa close aspect; Sa is in no longer in

extreme old age

> that week

> 4) From 7 Feb, Ma-Sa aspect

> 5) Ju-Sa aspect from mid Feb into the beginning of June

>

> Additionally, one may use the SAMVA USA chart to draw the

appropriate

> conclusions on the escalating Iraq war and its effect on

oil/energy costs

> considering the functional nature of the planets.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shukra69 and list members,

 

This is an interesting question. I´ll try to add some insight to it.

 

Saturn will return to strength in transit, as per criteria of age

(infancy/old age), combustion, debilitation and strength of

dispositor, from mid February to mid June 2007. The graph for Saturn

in the file " Transit Strength of Planets in 2007 " in the Files

section of the SAMVA web page shows this clearly. Of course, as

Saturn is transiting the sign of Cancer, its dispositor, the fast

moving Moon frequently alternates between strength and weakness. So,

the strength of Saturn in transit will fluctuate somewhat based on

that criteria (dispositor strenth). Importantly, during this time it

will remain free of the affliction of the transit nodal axis (Rahu

and/or Ketu).

 

Further, during the months of March and April 2007, Saturn at around

24°-25° Cancer will come under the aspect of transit Jupiter at

around 24°-25° Scorpio. The aspect from Jupiter, based on its highly

favourable general significations such as expansiveness, wisdom,

purification, grace of God, etc., should, other things being equal,

have a positive impact on the indications of Saturn, such as things

mined out of the ground (oil, coal, etc.), low-tech industries,

infrastructure (roads, bridges, tunnels, etc), working conditions or

pay of civil servants and workers who work hard ordinarily for low

pay, etc. This would especially be the case of countries where

Saturn and Jupiter would be functional benefics.

 

In the 21° Cancer rising SAMVA USA chart, where both Saturn and

Jupiter are functional malefics, the dynamics would be expected to be

quite different. Transit L6 Jupiter will be closely conjunct natal L8

Saturn at 26° 47' Scorpio H5 while exactly aspecting transit L8

Saturn in Cancer H1. Hence, conflict is likely to aggravate the

functional (i.e. easy gains, beliefs of the people, obstacles and

endings) and general indications of Saturn decisively at that time in

the USA. The ability of the USA to best its enemies in conflict is

also likely to be temporarily obstructed at this time. Moreover,

transit L8 Saturn will be closely aspecting L2 Sun at 23° 45'

Capricorn H7, creating obstacles for the country´s wealth, status,

political influence and relations with other countries at that time.

The time would also be difficult for the President of the USA.

 

A likely reading for these planetary influences in this time period

is that the oil price would rise, thus reducing the wealth of the

country as a major consumer of imported oil. As Vyas has further

pointed out, a higher oil price raises the overall price level, and

thus reduces the real wage of working men and women, which

temporarily reduces their welfare. In countries where this aspect of

Jupiter to Saturn is of a functional benefic nature, an overall

beneficial effect would be expected for the country.

 

During this time, the situation is further complicated by transit

Rahu being around 21°-22° Aquarius H8, closely aspecting H8, H12, H2

and H4. This will bring difficulty to foreign affairs, wealth,

domestic tranquility and easy gains. Transit Ketu will moreover be

aspecting L4 Venus at 23° 51' Sagittarius H6 and H2, H6, H8 and H10

adding sudden problems to wealth, status, domestic tranquility, the

real estate market, smooth relations with others, easy gains, and

foreign trade and the executive branch of government.

 

Currently, L6 Jupiter is at 19° 15' Scorpio H5 and aspecting H9, H11

and H1. This influence, which becomes exact in the chart on 7

February, but then lingers on will also be strongly felt, especially

given the natal contact between L6 Jupiter and L1 Moon in H11. This

contact has a tendency to arouse strongly held beliefs of the people,

stir their mind and emotions and thereby increase the conflict, which

disturbs the smooth functioning, also with respect to financial

markets and incomes. The political debate in the country, including

the primaries would be expected to be far more tense than is usual in

the early part of this year. The aspect is more strongly felt given

the other afflictions, involving also the fourth and second house

significations.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , " shukra69 " <stephen4359 wrote:

>

> could or other distinguished Jyotishis comment

on

> what other results will come from this long time strength of

Saturn?

> Would Real estate tend to rise as well as another commodity

> represented by Saturn? If gas and real estate rise in price does

> that not harm the cause of the common or poor class, a group

> signified by Saturn? Will the poor or common man see an improvement

> worldwide during such a period?

>

> SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <munidas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear List,

> >

> > Oil has been trading at levels not seen since the summer of 2005.

> The price

> > is pegged to stay buoyant and rise on the following accounts:

> >

> > 1) Ve transits the MT sign, Aq

> > 2) Upcoming close Me-Sa aspect from tomorrow

> > 3) From Mon 5 Feb, Su-Sa close aspect; Sa is in no longer in

> extreme old age

> > that week

> > 4) From 7 Feb, Ma-Sa aspect

> > 5) Ju-Sa aspect from mid Feb into the beginning of June

> >

> > Additionally, one may use the SAMVA USA chart to draw the

> appropriate

> > conclusions on the escalating Iraq war and its effect on

> oil/energy costs

> > considering the functional nature of the planets.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Vyas Munidas

> >

>