US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in Spring 2007

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Dear Thor,

 

Thanks for this. Indeed your study displays that you have a proper

background in this area to address the subject from both required angles.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

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<samva >

Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:23 PM

US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in

Spring 2007

 

 

> Dear friends,

>

> The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows how share

> prices have reached a new historical high - and are indeed high by any

> standard.

>

> Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measured as the

> difference between the high price and the low price in a given day trading

> session as a percentage of the day´s low price). The historical average

> from 1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal variation (one standard deviation)

> is from 1,4% to 4,2%. This means that close to 70% of the variation in

> volatility is within this range. In the Great Depression, the intra-day

> volatility reached a stunning 8%. In the recent period of turbulence

> following the slump in the Nasdaq index in 2000 and in the wake of the

> " 9/11 " attacks and the " War on Terror " the intra-day volatility went up to

> the higher end of the normal historical range, and was around 4%. Today,

> share prices have been climing steadily for several months and the

> intra-day volatility has declined sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the

> normal range. This means there is exceptional calm on the market. Will

> such easy going times continue on the stock market?

>

> The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems for the USA,

> both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout of turbulence to

> financial markets. As a result, share prices are likely to enter a period

> of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15%

> to 25% from the currently elevated levels. At the same time, intra-day

> volatility, as an indicator of the turbulence, would also be expected to

> increase.

>

> This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files section of the

> SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

>

>

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Hello Iver,

 

To predict even more precisely than I have done is difficult. There

are so many factors at work in the chart. The combination of factors

is also unique for any given time. The range of expected price

movement relies on a study of earlier periods of temporary pullbacks.

I have presented those findings in individual studies to the list in

recent weeks. They may be consulted in the SAMVA message files and

the graphs are available for reference on SAMVA Files section, in the

SAMVA USA chart folder.

 

To help you and list members understand the predictions a little

better, it may be helpful to review the key factors at work this

Spring (March-May):

 

PERIOD INFLUENCES

VENUS major period is operating (around 20% of the period influence):

Some focus on H4 indications and general indications of Venus, such

as comforts.

 

JUPITER sub-period is operating (around 80% of the influence):

Significant focus on H6 indications and general indications of

Jupiter, including advisers, judiciary, church, etc.

 

MERCURY sub-sub-period is operating (negligible influence, but may

make fast moving Mercury more likely to serve as trigger of events).

 

TRANSIT INFLUENCES

*Transit L6 JUPITER conjunct natal L8 SATURN in H5:

 

For JUPITER this influence would tend to undermine financial

stability and bring obstacles to existing conflict.

Explanatory note: One thing that undermines financial stability is a

reduction in asset prices.

 

For SATURN this influence would create conflict over easy gains, the

result of conflict is obstacles and endings

For both SATURN and JUPITER in H5 and JUPITER on H5 MEP, this

influence disturbs speculation, etc.

 

* Transit L6 JUPITER in H5 aspects transit L8 SATURN in H1:

 

For SATURN this influence reinforces the tendency to create conflict

over easy gains, the result of conflict is obstacles and endings

For H1, H3, H7 and H10 this brings obstacles and ending as transit

SATURN is in MEP of H1.

 

* Transit L8 SATURN in H1 aspects natal L2 SUN in H7:

 

For SUN this brings obstacles and endings to wealth, status and the

US Presidency. One thing to note here is that the aspect of a

stationary SATURN on the SUN never becomes exact. From 26 March to 15

May this aspect is within 1°. The aspect peaks from 18-22 April

within half a degree of exact. This is the only concern I have with

regard to the prediction for a decline in asset prices that this

aspect never becomes exact. So, SATURN then again moving forward in

motion begins to seperates from the close aspect to the Sun without

it having become exact. However, as has earlier

explained, such close afflictions (within 1°) have the potential to

inflict harm. We will see how it plays out.

 

Transit KETU aspects natal L4 VENUS in H6:

For Venus this brings sharp extremes to weather, fires to homes,

discomfort to the people, sudden setbacks for communal harmony, etc.

 

Transit KETU conjuncts H2 MEP of wealth and aspects H6 of financial

stability, H8 and H10:

For the houses involved, this affects their indications. As KETU is

afflicting H2 while transit L8 SATURN is closely afflicting natal L2

SUN in H7, gives more reason to predict a decline in the stock

prices. Also KETU is afflicting H6, disturbing financial stability.

 

From 1-9 May 2007, transit L2 SUN will be in H10, traveling through

- conjunction of natal nodal axis (18°)

- under aspect from transit KETU in H2 (21°)

- under aspect from transit L8 SATURN in H1 (24°)

 

On 4-6 May, transit L2 SUN will be joined by L3 MERCURY at 21°, so

both of them will be feeling the influence of the transit nodes and

then SATURN. However, by that time, the nodes will no longer be

stationary, so this will contribute to reduce the strain at that

time. That said, early May could be especially difficult for the

stock market.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

 

SAMVA , del iver <deliver1900 wrote:

>

> hi Thor

> " ... share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the

spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from

the currently elevated levels. "

>

> Would it be possible to narrow down the period to month or week or

even day/date for such a decline to commence ?

> Would it possible to say how long (time) such a decline may go for ?

> Thanx in advance

> Iver

>

> Cosmologer <cosmologer

> samva

> Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:23:27 PM

> US share prices are high, but predicted to decline

in Spring 2007

>

>

> Dear friends,

>

> The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows how

share prices have reached a new historical high - and are indeed high

by any standard.

>

> Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measured

as the difference between the high price and the low price in a given

day trading session as a percentage of the day´s low price). The

historical average from 1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal variation

(one standard deviation) is from 1,4% to 4,2%. This means that close

to 70% of the variation in volatility is within this range. In the

Great Depression, the intra-day volatility reached a stunning 8%. In

the recent period of turbulence following the slump in the Nasdaq

index in 2000 and in the wake of the " 9/11 " attacks and the " War on

Terror " the intra-day volatility went up to the higher end of the

normal historical range, and was around 4%. Today, share prices have

been climing steadily for several months and the intra-day volatility

has declined sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the normal range.

This means there is exceptional calm on the market. Will such easy

going times continue on the stock market?

>

> The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems for

the USA, both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout of

turbulence to financial markets. As a result, share prices are likely

to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may

decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels.

At the same time, intra-day volatility, as an indicator of the

turbulence, would also be expected to increase.

>

> This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files section

of the SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

>

>

>

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Congratulations Raj

It maybe pre-emptive at this stage but what the heck.

Well done !

 

27th Feb07 decline of 3% = 400 pts

 

Question: Was the analysis based on SA principles ?

Could you please explain your rationale ?

thanx in advance

Iver

Raj Cgadha <rkctechSAMVA Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 5:43:14 PMRe: US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in Spring 2007Mr. Iver:Although you asked this question to Thor, and he has replied, I would like toadd my input. My simple answer to your question is that a correction of ca. 10% is possible between Feb 11 and March 29. This is based on a USA chart I have been using for more than 10 years with remarkable success for predicting USA stock market moves. This is neither Feb 2, 1781 nor July 2, 1776 chart which is being seriously debated here. It is based on July 4, 1776, 2:17 am. I know there is not much of a justification of this early morning time, but because it gives

such a good explanation of stock market moves I am still using it, and I will continue to use it unless somebody comes up with a chart which gives a better explantion of these moves. Raj Chadha del iver <deliver1900 wrote:

 

 

 

 

hi Thor

 

"... share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels. "

 

Would it be possible to narrow down the period to month or week or even day/date for such a decline to commence ?

Would it possible to say how long (time) such a decline may go for ?

Thanx in advance

Iver

Cosmologer <cosmologer >samva Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:23:27 PM US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in Spring 2007

Dear friends,

 

The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows how share prices have reached a new historical high - and are indeed high by any standard.

 

Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measured as the difference between the high price and the low price in a given day trading session as a percentage of the day´s low price). The historical average from 1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal variation (one standard deviation) is from 1,4% to 4,2%. This means that close to 70% of the variation in volatility is within this range. In the Great Depression, the intra-day volatility reached a stunning 8%. In the recent period of turbulence following the slump in the Nasdaq index in 2000 and in the wake of the "9/11" attacks and the "War on Terror" the intra-day volatility went up to the higher end of the normal historical range, and was around 4%. Today, share prices have been climing steadily for several months and the intra-day volatility has declined sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the normal range. This means there is exceptional calm on the market. Will such easy going

times continue on the stock market?

 

The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems for the USA, both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout of turbulence to financial markets. As a result, share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels. At the same time, intra-day volatility, as an indicator of the turbulence, would also be expected to increase.

 

This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files section of the SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

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Congratulations Thor

It maybe pre-emptive at this stage but what the heck.

Well done !

 

27th Feb07 decline of 3% = 400 pts

 

Could you please explain what do you mean by "spring months of 2007" ?

thanx in advance

Iver

 

PS: its Summer in other places ! LOL

 

del iver <deliver1900 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

hi Thor

 

"... share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels. "

 

Would it be possible to narrow down the period to month or week or even day/date for such a decline to commence ?

Would it possible to say how long (time) such a decline may go for ?

Thanx in advance

Iver

Cosmologer <cosmologer >samva Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:23:27 PM US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in Spring 2007

Dear friends,

 

The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows how share prices have reached a new historical high - and are indeed high by any standard.

 

Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measured as the difference between the high price and the low price in a given day trading session as a percentage of the day´s low price). The historical average from 1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal variation (one standard deviation) is from 1,4% to 4,2%. This means that close to 70% of the variation in volatility is within this range. In the Great Depression, the intra-day volatility reached a stunning 8%. In the recent period of turbulence following the slump in the Nasdaq index in 2000 and in the wake of the "9/11" attacks and the "War on Terror" the intra-day volatility went up to the higher end of the normal historical range, and was around 4%. Today, share prices have been climing steadily for several months and the intra-day volatility has declined sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the normal range. This means there is exceptional calm on the market. Will such easy going

times continue on the stock market?

 

The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems for the USA, both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout of turbulence to financial markets. As a result, share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels. At the same time, intra-day volatility, as an indicator of the turbulence, would also be expected to increase.

 

This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files section of the SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

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Hello Iver,

 

Thank you for the congratulations.

 

It is perhaps not a precise use of the term but " spring months of

2007 " refers to the time from now until mid May or so.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , del iver <deliver1900 wrote:

>

> Congratulations Thor

> It maybe pre-emptive at this stage but what the heck.

> Well done !

>

> 27th Feb07 decline of 3% = 400 pts

>

> Could you please explain what do you mean by " spring months of 2007 " ?

> thanx in advance

> Iver

>

> PS: its Summer in other places ! LOL

>

> del iver <deliver1900 wrote:

> hi Thor

> " ... share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the

spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from

the currently elevated levels. "

>

> Would it be possible to narrow down the period to month or week or

even day/date for such a decline to commence ?

> Would it possible to say how long (time) such a decline may go for ?

> Thanx in advance

> Iver

>

> Cosmologer <cosmologer >

> samva

> Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:23:27 PM

> US share prices are high, but predicted to decline

in Spring 2007

>

>

> Dear friends,

>

> The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows how share

prices have reached a new historical high - and are indeed high by any

standard.

>

> Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measured as

the difference between the high price and the low price in a given day

trading session as a percentage of the day´s low price). The

historical average from 1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal variation

(one standard deviation) is from 1,4% to 4,2%. This means that close

to 70% of the variation in volatility is within this range. In the

Great Depression, the intra-day volatility reached a stunning 8%. In

the recent period of turbulence following the slump in the Nasdaq

index in 2000 and in the wake of the " 9/11 " attacks and the " War on

Terror " the intra-day volatility went up to the higher end of the

normal historical range, and was around 4%. Today, share prices have

been climing steadily for several months and the intra-day volatility

has declined sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the normal range. This

means there is exceptional calm on the market. Will such easy going

times continue on the stock market?

>

> The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems for the

USA, both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout of

turbulence to financial markets. As a result, share prices are likely

to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may

decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels.

At the same time, intra-day volatility, as an indicator of the

turbulence, would also be expected to increase.

>

> This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files section of

the SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

>

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Iver:Thank you. The basis of my prediction was the USA chart based on July 4, 1776, 2:17am. However I use Solar Return charts instead of Transits and I analyse SRC strictly with SA principles not Tajaka. I believe SRC is only a condensed version of transits. I have indicated this on this board a number of times, but as expected I know it is not well taken. It is still not March 29, so I won't buy stocks until the middle of March.Raj Chadhadel iver <deliver1900 wrote: Congratulations Raj It maybe pre-emptive at this stage but what the heck. Well done ! 27th Feb07 decline of 3% = 400 pts Question: Was the analysis based on SA principles ? Could you please explain your rationale ? thanx in advance Iver ----- Original Message

----Raj Cgadha <rkctech >SAMVA Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 5:43:14 PMRe: US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in Spring 2007Mr. Iver:Although you asked this question to Thor, and he has replied, I would like toadd my input. My simple answer to your question is that a correction of ca. 10% is possible between Feb 11 and March 29. This is based on a USA chart I have been using for more than 10 years with remarkable success for predicting USA stock market moves. This is neither Feb 2, 1781 nor July 2, 1776 chart which is being seriously debated here. It is based on July 4, 1776, 2:17 am. I know there is not much of a justification of this early morning time, but because it gives such a good explanation of stock market moves I am still using it, and I will continue to use it unless somebody comes up with a chart which gives a better explantion of

these moves. Raj Chadha del iver <deliver1900 > wrote: hi Thor "... share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels. " Would it be possible to narrow down the period to month or week or even day/date for such a decline to commence ? Would it possible to say how long (time) such a decline may go for ? Thanx in advance Iver Cosmologer <cosmologer >samva Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:23:27 PM US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in Spring 2007 Dear friends, The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows how share prices have reached a new historical high - and are indeed high by any standard. Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measured as the difference between the high price and the low price in a given day trading session as a percentage of the day´s low price). The historical average from 1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal variation (one standard deviation) is from 1,4% to 4,2%. This means that close to 70% of the variation in volatility is within this range. In the Great Depression,

the intra-day volatility reached a stunning 8%. In the recent period of turbulence following the slump in the Nasdaq index in 2000 and in the wake of the "9/11" attacks and the "War on Terror" the intra-day volatility went up to the higher end of the normal historical range, and was around 4%. Today, share prices have been climing steadily for several months and the intra-day volatility has declined sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the normal range. This means there is exceptional calm on the market. Will such easy going times continue on the stock market? The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems for the USA, both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout of turbulence to financial markets. As a result, share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels. At the

same time, intra-day volatility, as an indicator of the turbulence, would also be expected to increase. This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files section of the SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes, Thor Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center.

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just thinking out loud:

Please bear with me folks. The only truth in the market (Dow) is the market itself. It (the market) doesn't give a damn how sophisticated ones thoery is. Its a school of very hard knocks !

 

Both Thor's and Raj's predictions are on track and maybe even 2July chart would stand up for this decline. With respect to the FORECASTED declines the current fall is nothing. We're not even a quarter of the way.

 

Having said that I have a problem with the rationale of the forecast.

 

Both Thor and Raj are using the country's charts. Those are not Dow radix charts.

If it was Dow's natal chart then we could have just looked and prognosticated from it. But it isn't.

 

I am still a neophyte so seek your indulgence and forgiveness for what follows.

If I am correct then shouldn't we be looking at Divisional charts (of the USA radix) to forecast and specifically 4th and 5th houses ?

 

Jai gurudev

iver

cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:18:21 AM Re: US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in Spring 2007

Hello Iver,Thank you for the congratulations.It is perhaps not a precise use of the term but "spring months of2007" refers to the time from now until mid May or so.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , del iver <deliver1900 wrote:>> Congratulations Thor> It maybe pre-emptive at this stage but what the heck.> Well done !> > 27th Feb07 decline of 3% = 400 pts> > Could you please explain what do you mean by "spring months of 2007" ?> thanx in advance> Iver> > PS: its Summer in other places ! LOL> > del iver <deliver1900 wrote:> hi Thor> "... share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in thespring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% fromthe currently elevated levels. "> > Would it be possible to narrow down

the period to month or week oreven day/date for such a decline to commence ?> Would it possible to say how long (time) such a decline may go for ?> Thanx in advance> Iver> > Cosmologer <cosmologer >> samva > Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:23:27 PM> US share prices are high, but predicted to declinein Spring 2007> > > Dear friends,> > The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows how shareprices have reached a new historical high - and are indeed high by anystandard. > > Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measured asthe difference between the high price and the low price in a given daytrading session as a percentage of the day´s low price). Thehistorical average from 1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal

variation(one standard deviation) is from 1,4% to 4,2%. This means that closeto 70% of the variation in volatility is within this range. In theGreat Depression, the intra-day volatility reached a stunning 8%. Inthe recent period of turbulence following the slump in the Nasdaqindex in 2000 and in the wake of the "9/11" attacks and the "War onTerror" the intra-day volatility went up to the higher end of thenormal historical range, and was around 4%. Today, share prices havebeen climing steadily for several months and the intra-day volatilityhas declined sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the normal range. Thismeans there is exceptional calm on the market. Will such easy goingtimes continue on the stock market?> > The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems for theUSA, both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout ofturbulence to financial markets. As a result, share

prices are likelyto enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and maydecline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels.At the same time, intra-day volatility, as an indicator of theturbulence, would also be expected to increase.> > This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files section ofthe SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart.> > Best wishes,> > Thor

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Hello Iver,

 

Per the opinion of , a country's natal is an accurate

forecaster of its speculative markets as well. Finer and better details are

given by the natal of such markets and the scope remains for the existence

of such a chart.

 

As far as which chart is to be used for the USA, you have to judge for

yourself by filtering the relevant history through proper understanding and

studying the natal promise of the proposed charts by SA principles. The

forecasts on the 21 Cn chart have played well by these princples, bar no

other so far. Significant events have been tested and catalouged in the

files section. The confidence or lack of, builds over time, but the points

is, we must first start with a chart that shows the natal promise based on

SA by no stretch; otherwise, the discussion is meaningless. There are no

'maybes,' on this final point.

 

Perhaps there is a chart out there that fits better for the USA seen through

the history and natal promise, which shows events even more superbly. Until

such a time, I'll stick to this 21 Cn chart. Of course, and this must be

said, to judge correctly we all have to be on the same page using the same

set of rules.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

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" del iver " <deliver1900

<samva >

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 5:31 PM

Re: Re: US share prices are high, but predicted to decline

in Spring 2007

 

 

just thinking out loud:

 

Please bear with me folks. The only truth in the market (Dow) is the market

itself. It (the market) doesn't give a damn how sophisticated ones thoery

is. Its a school of very hard knocks !

 

Both Thor's and Raj's predictions are on track and maybe even 2July chart

would stand up for this decline. With respect to the FORECASTED declines the

current fall is nothing. We're not even a quarter of the way.

 

Having said that I have a problem with the rationale of the forecast.

 

Both Thor and Raj are using the country's charts. Those are not Dow radix

charts.

If it was Dow's natal chart then we could have just looked and

prognosticated from it. But it isn't.

 

I am still a neophyte so seek your indulgence and forgiveness for what

follows.

If I am correct then shouldn't we be looking at Divisional charts (of the

USA radix) to forecast and specifically 4th and 5th houses ?

 

Jai gurudev

iver

 

cosmologer <cosmologer

SAMVA

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:18:21 AM

Re: US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in

Spring 2007

 

 

Hello Iver,

 

Thank you for the congratulations.

 

It is perhaps not a precise use of the term but " spring months of

2007 " refers to the time from now until mid May or so.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , del iver <deliver1900 wrote:

>

> Congratulations Thor

> It maybe pre-emptive at this stage but what the heck.

> Well done !

>

> 27th Feb07 decline of 3% = 400 pts

>

> Could you please explain what do you mean by " spring months of 2007 " ?

> thanx in advance

> Iver

>

> PS: its Summer in other places ! LOL

>

> del iver <deliver1900 wrote:

> hi Thor

> " ... share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the

spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from

the currently elevated levels. "

>

> Would it be possible to narrow down the period to month or week or

even day/date for such a decline to commence ?

> Would it possible to say how long (time) such a decline may go for ?

> Thanx in advance

> Iver

>

> Cosmologer <cosmologer >

> samva

> Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:23:27 PM

> US share prices are high, but predicted to decline

in Spring 2007

>

>

> Dear friends,

>

> The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows how share

prices have reached a new historical high - and are indeed high by any

standard.

>

> Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measured as

the difference between the high price and the low price in a given day

trading session as a percentage of the day´s low price). The

historical average from 1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal variation

(one standard deviation) is from 1,4% to 4,2%. This means that close

to 70% of the variation in volatility is within this range. In the

Great Depression, the intra-day volatility reached a stunning 8%. In

the recent period of turbulence following the slump in the Nasdaq

index in 2000 and in the wake of the " 9/11 " attacks and the " War on

Terror " the intra-day volatility went up to the higher end of the

normal historical range, and was around 4%. Today, share prices have

been climing steadily for several months and the intra-day volatility

has declined sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the normal range. This

means there is exceptional calm on the market. Will such easy going

times continue on the stock market?

>

> The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems for the

USA, both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout of

turbulence to financial markets. As a result, share prices are likely

to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may

decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels.

At the same time, intra-day volatility, as an indicator of the

turbulence, would also be expected to increase.

>

> This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files section of

the SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

 

 

 

 

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Dear friends,

 

The stock market selling has resumed this morning, although it

abated a bit in the early hours after new data indicated

manufacturing output has recently been increasing.

 

However, as the following news story suggests, the nervousness is

growing in investor minds. I also repost below my message from

February 6.

 

Best wishes,

 

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Last Updated: Thursday, 1 March 2007, 15:07 GMT

US drives stock market sell-off

 

US markets are falling despite positive comments from the Fed

World shares have dropped for a third day on concerns about economic

growth and the outlook for corporate profits.

A shaky and volatile morning in Europe and Asia was compounded by big

falls on US markets when they opened.

 

In early trading, the key US Dow Jones index slipped 1.4%, with the

S & P down 1.5% and the Nasdaq losing 1.8%.

 

In London, the UK FTSE 100 index had lost 1.5%, Germany's Dax was

down 1.9% and France's Cac shed 2.1%. Earlier in the day, indexes had

fallen in Asia.

 

" Right now, everything and anything is viewed in a negative light, "

said stock analyst Dick Green. " It will take a while for the fears to

calm down. "

 

Spreading out

 

The sell-off was triggered on Tuesday by fears of a new tax in China,

but has since spread to wider concerns about the state of the US

economy and strength of the mortgage market.

 

On Wednesday, figures from the US Commerce Department showed that the

US economy grew at a slower-than-expected pace of 2.2% in the last

three months of 2006.

 

Investors are still wondering if the storm is actually over or not

 

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Dear friends,

 

The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows how share

prices have reached a new historical high - and are indeed high by

any standard.

 

Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measured as

the difference between the high price and the low price in a given

day trading session as a percentage of the day´s low price). The

historical average from 1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal variation

(one standard deviation) is from 1,4% to 4,2%. This means that close

to 70% of the variation in volatility is within this range. In the

Great Depression, the intra-day volatility reached a stunning 8%. In

the recent period of turbulence following the slump in the Nasdaq

index in 2000 and in the wake of the " 9/11 " attacks and the " War on

Terror " the intra-day volatility went up to the higher end of the

normal historical range, and was around 4%. Today, share prices have

been climing steadily for several months and the intra-day volatility

has declined sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the normal range.

This means there is exceptional calm on the market. Will such easy

going times continue on the stock market?

 

The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems for the

USA, both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout of

turbulence to financial markets. As a result, share prices are likely

to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may

decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels.

At the same time, intra-day volatility, as an indicator of the

turbulence, would also be expected to increase.

 

This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files section of

the SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

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After reading Vyas ji's comments on Dow today, I thought I should checkout the 2 forecasts we had discussed b4. Please note: we still have time for Thor's forecast to play itself out. But a WOW is in order for Raj Cgadha's forecast. >>I won't buy stocks until the middle of March. If anyone did that they would have amazingly picked the bottom ! I am indeed very grateful for Raj Cgadha's taking the time out and for his courage to post his unambiguous forecast. Thankyou and congratulations ! PS: Raj - if u r game I'd like to discuss the issue further off the group ofcourse ? Please revert directly to me deliver1900 thanx

! Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote: Iver:Thank you. The basis of my prediction was the USA chart based on July 4, 1776, 2:17am. However I use Solar Return charts instead of Transits and I analyse SRC strictly with SA principles not Tajaka. I believe SRC is only a condensed version of transits. I have indicated this on this board a number of times, but as expected I know it is not well taken. It is still not March 29, so I won't buy stocks until the middle of March.Raj Chadhadel iver <deliver1900 wrote: Congratulations Raj It maybe pre-emptive at this stage but what the heck. Well done ! 27th Feb07 decline of 3% = 400 pts Question: Was the analysis based on SA principles ? Could you please explain your rationale ? thanx in advance Iver Raj Cgadha <rkctech >To:

SAMVA Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 5:43:14 PMRe: US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in Spring 2007Mr. Iver:Although you asked this question to Thor, and he has replied, I would like toadd my input. My simple answer to your question is that a correction of ca. 10% is possible between Feb 11 and March 29. This is based on a USA chart I have been using for more than 10 years with remarkable success for predicting USA stock market moves. This is neither Feb 2, 1781 nor July 2, 1776 chart which is being seriously debated here. It is based on July 4, 1776, 2:17 am. I know there is not much of a justification of this early morning time, but because it gives such a good explanation of stock market moves I am still using it, and I will continue to use it unless somebody comes up with a chart which gives a better explantion of these moves. Raj Chadha del iver

<deliver1900 > wrote: hi Thor "... share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels. " Would it be possible to narrow down the period to month or week or even day/date for such a decline to commence ? Would it possible to say how long (time) such a decline may go for ? Thanx in advance Iver Cosmologer <cosmologer >samva Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:23:27 PM US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in Spring 2007 Dear friends, The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows how share prices have reached a new historical high - and are indeed high by any standard. Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measured as the difference between the high price and the low price in a given day trading session as a percentage of the day´s low price). The historical average from 1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal variation (one standard deviation) is from 1,4% to 4,2%. This means that close to 70% of the variation in volatility is within this range. In the Great Depression, the intra-day volatility reached a stunning 8%. In

the recent period of turbulence following the slump in the Nasdaq index in 2000 and in the wake of the "9/11" attacks and the "War on Terror" the intra-day volatility went up to the higher end of the normal historical range, and was around 4%. Today, share prices have been climing steadily for several months and the intra-day volatility has declined sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the normal range. This means there is exceptional calm on the market. Will such easy going times continue on the stock market? The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems for the USA, both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout of turbulence to financial markets. As a result, share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels. At the same time, intra-day volatility, as an indicator of

the turbulence, would also be expected to increase. This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files section of the SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes, Thor Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now.

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Hello Iver,

 

Thanks for the update on this particular forecast.

 

Please note that the predictions on the basis of the SAMVA USA chart

were more far reaching than the one prediction made on the basis of

this July 4 1776 chart. So far, the predictions by

and myself based on the SAMVA USA chart have been realised to a

reasonable extent save the share price developments made by me. The

following events comform to the predictions this Spring:

 

- Difficulties for the US Presidency have been legion

- An uproar over racial remarks caused involvement of people

- The communal/political debate has been divisive and bitter

- The largest mass murder on a college campus has taken place

- US military casualties in Iraq have increased sharply in April

- There have been amazing extremes of weather in the US

- The slump in the housing market accelerated

- Huge bankruptcies occurred in the sub-prime lending market

- Turbulence rocked the stock market in late February

 

Finally, the period for prediction is until mid May 2007.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

SAMVA , del iver <deliver1900 wrote:

>

> After reading Vyas ji's comments on Dow today, I thought I should

checkout the 2 forecasts we had discussed b4. Please note: we still

have time for Thor's forecast to play itself out.

>

> But a WOW is in order for Raj Cgadha's forecast.

>

> >>I won't buy stocks until the middle of March.

>

> If anyone did that they would have amazingly picked the bottom !

>

> I am indeed very grateful for Raj Cgadha's taking the time out and

for his courage to post his unambiguous forecast.

>

> Thankyou and congratulations !

>

> PS: Raj - if u r game I'd like to discuss the issue further off

the group ofcourse ?

> Please revert directly to me deliver1900 thanx !

>

> Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:

> Iver:

>

> Thank you. The basis of my prediction was the USA chart based on

July 4, 1776, 2:17am. However I use Solar Return charts instead of

Transits and I analyse SRC strictly with SA principles not Tajaka. I

believe SRC is only a condensed version of transits. I have indicated

this on this board a number of times, but as expected I know it is

not well taken.

>

> It is still not March 29, so I won't buy stocks until the middle of

March.

>

> Raj Chadha

>

> del iver <deliver1900 wrote:

> Congratulations Raj

> It maybe pre-emptive at this stage but what the heck.

> Well done !

>

> 27th Feb07 decline of 3% = 400 pts

>

> Question: Was the analysis based on SA principles ?

> Could you please explain your rationale ?

> thanx in advance

> Iver

>

>

> Raj Cgadha <rkctech

> SAMVA

> Wednesday, February 7, 2007 5:43:14 PM

> Re: US share prices are high, but predicted to

decline in Spring 2007

>

> Mr. Iver:

>

> Although you asked this question to Thor, and he has replied, I

would like to

> add my input. My simple answer to your question is that a correction

of ca. 10% is possible between Feb 11 and March 29.

>

> This is based on a USA chart I have been using for more than 10

years with remarkable success for predicting USA stock market moves.

This is neither Feb 2, 1781 nor July 2, 1776 chart which is being

seriously debated here. It is based on July 4, 1776, 2:17 am. I know

there is not much of a justification of this early morning time, but

because it gives such a good explanation of stock market moves I am

still using it, and I will continue to use it unless somebody comes up

with a chart which gives a better explantion of these moves.

>

> Raj Chadha

>

> del iver <deliver1900 wrote:

> hi Thor

> " ... share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the

spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from

the currently elevated levels. "

>

> Would it be possible to narrow down the period to month or week or

even day/date for such a decline to commence ?

> Would it possible to say how long (time) such a decline may go for ?

> Thanx in advance

> Iver

>

>

> Cosmologer <cosmologer >

> samva

> Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:23:27 PM

> US share prices are high, but predicted to decline

in Spring 2007

>

> Dear friends,

>

> The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows how

share prices have reached a new historical high - and are indeed high

by any standard.

>

> Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measured

as the difference between the high price and the low price in a given

day trading session as a percentage of the day´s low price). The

historical average from 1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal variation

(one standard deviation) is from 1,4% to 4,2%. This means that close

to 70% of the variation in volatility is within this range. In the

Great Depression, the intra-day volatility reached a stunning 8%. In

the recent period of turbulence following the slump in the Nasdaq

index in 2000 and in the wake of the " 9/11 " attacks and the " War on

Terror " the intra-day volatility went up to the higher end of the

normal historical range, and was around 4%. Today, share prices have

been climing steadily for several months and the intra-day volatility

has declined sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the normal range. This

means there is exceptional calm on the market. Will such easy going

times continue on the stock market?

>

> The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems for

the USA, both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout of

turbulence to financial markets. As a result, share prices are likely

to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may

decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels.

At the same time, intra-day volatility, as an indicator of the

turbulence, would also be expected to increase.

>

> This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files section

of the SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

 

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Dear Iver,

 

Yes, bottom in mid-March was certainly realized.

 

Statistical significance and repeatability is key in considering the words

of anyone, right or wrong.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

-

" del iver " <deliver1900

<samva >

Cc: " Raj Cgadha " <rkctech

Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:33 PM

Re: US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in

Spring 2007

 

 

After reading Vyas ji's comments on Dow today, I thought I should checkout

the 2 forecasts we had discussed b4. Please note: we still have time for

Thor's forecast to play itself out.

 

But a WOW is in order for Raj Cgadha's forecast.

 

>>I won't buy stocks until the middle of March.

 

If anyone did that they would have amazingly picked the bottom !

 

I am indeed very grateful for Raj Cgadha's taking the time out and for his

courage to post his unambiguous forecast.

 

Thankyou and congratulations !

 

PS: Raj - if u r game I'd like to discuss the issue further off the group

ofcourse ?

Please revert directly to me deliver1900 thanx !

 

Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:

Iver:

 

Thank you. The basis of my prediction was the USA chart based on July 4,

1776, 2:17am. However I use Solar Return charts instead of Transits and I

analyse SRC strictly with SA principles not Tajaka. I believe SRC is only a

condensed version of transits. I have indicated this on this board a number

of times, but as expected I know it is not well taken.

 

It is still not March 29, so I won't buy stocks until the middle of March.

 

Raj Chadha

 

del iver <deliver1900 wrote:

Congratulations Raj

It maybe pre-emptive at this stage but what the heck.

Well done !

 

27th Feb07 decline of 3% = 400 pts

 

Question: Was the analysis based on SA principles ?

Could you please explain your rationale ?

thanx in advance

Iver

 

Raj Cgadha <rkctech

SAMVA

Wednesday, February 7, 2007 5:43:14 PM

Re: US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in

Spring 2007

 

Mr. Iver:

 

Although you asked this question to Thor, and he has replied, I would like

to

add my input. My simple answer to your question is that a correction of ca.

10% is possible between Feb 11 and March 29.

 

This is based on a USA chart I have been using for more than 10 years with

remarkable success for predicting USA stock market moves. This is neither

Feb 2, 1781 nor July 2, 1776 chart which is being seriously debated here. It

is based on July 4, 1776, 2:17 am. I know there is not much of a

justification of this early morning time, but because it gives such a good

explanation of stock market moves I am still using it, and I will continue

to use it unless somebody comes up with a chart which gives a better

explantion of these moves.

 

Raj Chadha

 

del iver <deliver1900 wrote:

hi Thor

" ... share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the spring

months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently

elevated levels. "

 

Would it be possible to narrow down the period to month or week or even

day/date for such a decline to commence ?

Would it possible to say how long (time) such a decline may go for ?

Thanx in advance

Iver

 

Cosmologer <cosmologer >

samva

Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:23:27 PM

US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in

Spring 2007

 

Dear friends,

 

The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows how share

prices have reached a new historical high - and are indeed high by any

standard.

 

Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measured as the

difference between the high price and the low price in a given day trading

session as a percentage of the day´s low price). The historical average from

1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal variation (one standard deviation) is from

1,4% to 4,2%. This means that close to 70% of the variation in volatility is

within this range. In the Great Depression, the intra-day volatility reached

a stunning 8%. In the recent period of turbulence following the slump in the

Nasdaq index in 2000 and in the wake of the " 9/11 " attacks and the " War on

Terror " the intra-day volatility went up to the higher end of the normal

historical range, and was around 4%. Today, share prices have been climing

steadily for several months and the intra-day volatility has declined

sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the normal range. This means there is

exceptional calm on the market. Will such easy going times continue on the

stock market?

 

The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems for the USA,

both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout of turbulence to

financial markets. As a result, share prices are likely to enter a period of

decline in the spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to

25% from the currently elevated levels. At the same time, intra-day

volatility, as an indicator of the turbulence, would also be expected to

increase.

 

This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files section of the

SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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My dear Thor i'm still a neophyte when it comes to (any) astro. i gave compliments to Raj because that was the right and honourable thing to do. however i'm not trying to detract anyone from your conscientious work, unthankable by us however hard we try. we are indeed very grateful and very much appreciate the discussions that emanate from real and live issues around the world. i challenge everything in life LOL but hey man, my knowledge of SA has gone into hyperdrive recently. i have always appreciated our guruji's time and efforts and yours and Vyas and John and Jorge and ... everyone's little bit, all have added up to a much fuller container of knowledge for me. i haven't yet seen a conceptual framework in any astrology even remotely comparable to SA. the simplicity and the principles based SA is far superior. knowing you Thor, i

know that you will appreciate my quest for the right Dow chart than maybe anyone else ! LOL and to that end i'll challenge every natal LOL the dark night of soul is not yet over for me a challenge is a test, not an insult let life be full of bliss for eveyone Jai Guru Dev com> wrote: Hello Iver,Thanks for the update on this particular forecast. Please note that the predictions on the basis of the SAMVA USA chartwere more far reaching than the one prediction made on the basis ofthis July 4 1776 chart. So far, the predictions by and myself based on the SAMVA USA chart have been realised to areasonable extent save the share price

developments made by me. Thefollowing events comform to the predictions this Spring:- Difficulties for the US Presidency have been legion - An uproar over racial remarks caused involvement of people- The communal/political debate has been divisive and bitter- The largest mass murder on a college campus has taken place- US military casualties in Iraq have increased sharply in April- There have been amazing extremes of weather in the US- The slump in the housing market accelerated- Huge bankruptcies occurred in the sub-prime lending market- Turbulence rocked the stock market in late FebruaryFinally, the period for prediction is until mid May 2007.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , del iver wrote:>> After reading Vyas ji's comments on Dow today, I thought I shouldcheckout the 2 forecasts we had discussed b4. Please note: we stillhave time for

Thor's forecast to play itself out.> > But a WOW is in order for Raj Cgadha's forecast.> > >>I won't buy stocks until the middle of March.> > If anyone did that they would have amazingly picked the bottom ! > > I am indeed very grateful for Raj Cgadha's taking the time out andfor his courage to post his unambiguous forecast.> > Thankyou and congratulations !> > PS: Raj - if u r game I'd like to discuss the issue further offthe group ofcourse ?> Please revert directly to me deliver1900 thanx ! > > Raj Cgadha wrote:> Iver:> > Thank you. The basis of my prediction was the USA chart based onJuly 4, 1776, 2:17am. However I use Solar Return charts instead ofTransits and I analyse SRC strictly with SA principles not Tajaka. Ibelieve SRC is only a condensed version of transits. I have indicatedthis on this

board a number of times, but as expected I know it isnot well taken. > > It is still not March 29, so I won't buy stocks until the middle ofMarch.> > Raj Chadha> > del iver wrote: > Congratulations Raj> It maybe pre-emptive at this stage but what the heck.> Well done !> > 27th Feb07 decline of 3% = 400 pts> > Question: Was the analysis based on SA principles ?> Could you please explain your rationale ?> thanx in advance> Iver> > > Raj Cgadha > SAMVA > Wednesday, February 7, 2007 5:43:14 PM> Re: US share prices are high, but predicted todecline in Spring 2007> > Mr. Iver:> > Although you asked this question to Thor, and he has replied, Iwould like to> add my input. My

simple answer to your question is that a correctionof ca. 10% is possible between Feb 11 and March 29. > > This is based on a USA chart I have been using for more than 10years with remarkable success for predicting USA stock market moves.This is neither Feb 2, 1781 nor July 2, 1776 chart which is beingseriously debated here. It is based on July 4, 1776, 2:17 am. I knowthere is not much of a justification of this early morning time, butbecause it gives such a good explanation of stock market moves I amstill using it, and I will continue to use it unless somebody comes upwith a chart which gives a better explantion of these moves. > > Raj Chadha > > del iver wrote: > hi Thor> "... share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in thespring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% fromthe currently elevated levels. "> > Would it

be possible to narrow down the period to month or week oreven day/date for such a decline to commence ?> Would it possible to say how long (time) such a decline may go for ?> Thanx in advance> Iver> > > Cosmologer > samva > Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:23:27 PM> US share prices are high, but predicted to declinein Spring 2007> > Dear friends,> > The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows howshare prices have reached a new historical high - and are indeed highby any standard. > > Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measuredas the difference between the high price and the low price in a givenday trading session as a percentage of the day´s low price). Thehistorical average from 1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal

variation(one standard deviation) is from 1,4% to 4,2%. This means that closeto 70% of the variation in volatility is within this range. In theGreat Depression, the intra-day volatility reached a stunning 8%. Inthe recent period of turbulence following the slump in the Nasdaqindex in 2000 and in the wake of the "9/11" attacks and the "War onTerror" the intra-day volatility went up to the higher end of thenormal historical range, and was around 4%. Today, share prices havebeen climing steadily for several months and the intra-day volatilityhas declined sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the normal range. Thismeans there is exceptional calm on the market. Will such easy goingtimes continue on the stock market?> > The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems forthe USA, both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout ofturbulence to financial markets. As a result, share prices are

likelyto enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and maydecline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels.At the same time, intra-day volatility, as an indicator of theturbulence, would also be expected to increase.> > This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files sectionof the SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart.> > Best wishes,> > Thor

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>>Statistical significance and repeatability is key in considering the words of anyone, right or wrong. LOL thats reminds me of the age-old Q: who am i ? Vyas ji you are a man of big words that are beyond me i am still a humble student trying to pick up the crumbs from greats like yourself i just wanted to congratulate and thank Raj ofcourse no one else has to, maybe because the post was addressed to me if i ever learn anything of SA it'll be because of such magnanimous characters like urself, Thor, Jorge, members of this group and the great guruji himself Jai Guru devVyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Iver,Yes,

bottom in mid-March was certainly realized.Statistical significance and repeatability is key in considering the words of anyone, right or wrong.Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "del iver" Cc: "Raj Cgadha" Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:33 PMRe: US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in Spring 2007After reading Vyas ji's comments on Dow today, I thought I should checkout the 2 forecasts we had discussed b4. Please note: we still have time for Thor's forecast to play itself out.But a WOW is in order for Raj Cgadha's forecast.>>I won't buy stocks until the middle of March.If anyone did that they would have amazingly picked the bottom !I am indeed very grateful for Raj Cgadha's taking the time out and for his courage to post his

unambiguous forecast.Thankyou and congratulations !PS: Raj - if u r game I'd like to discuss the issue further off the group ofcourse ?Please revert directly to me deliver1900 thanx !Raj Cgadha wrote:Iver:Thank you. The basis of my prediction was the USA chart based on July 4, 1776, 2:17am. However I use Solar Return charts instead of Transits and I analyse SRC strictly with SA principles not Tajaka. I believe SRC is only a condensed version of transits. I have indicated this on this board a number of times, but as expected I know it is not well taken.It is still not March 29, so I won't buy stocks until the middle of March.Raj Chadhadel iver wrote:Congratulations RajIt maybe pre-emptive at this stage but what the heck.Well done !27th Feb07 decline of 3% = 400 ptsQuestion: Was the analysis based on SA principles

?Could you please explain your rationale ?thanx in advanceIverRaj Cgadha SAMVA Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 5:43:14 PMRe: US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in Spring 2007Mr. Iver:Although you asked this question to Thor, and he has replied, I would like toadd my input. My simple answer to your question is that a correction of ca. 10% is possible between Feb 11 and March 29.This is based on a USA chart I have been using for more than 10 years with remarkable success for predicting USA stock market moves. This is neither Feb 2, 1781 nor July 2, 1776 chart which is being seriously debated here. It is based on July 4, 1776, 2:17 am. I know there is not much of a justification of this early morning time, but because it gives such a good explanation of stock market moves I am

still using it, and I will continue to use it unless somebody comes up with a chart which gives a better explantion of these moves.Raj Chadhadel iver wrote:hi Thor"... share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels. "Would it be possible to narrow down the period to month or week or even day/date for such a decline to commence ?Would it possible to say how long (time) such a decline may go for ?Thanx in advanceIverCosmologer samva Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:23:27 PM US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in Spring 2007Dear friends,The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows how share prices have reached a

new historical high - and are indeed high by any standard.Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measured as the difference between the high price and the low price in a given day trading session as a percentage of the day´s low price). The historical average from 1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal variation (one standard deviation) is from 1,4% to 4,2%. This means that close to 70% of the variation in volatility is within this range. In the Great Depression, the intra-day volatility reached a stunning 8%. In the recent period of turbulence following the slump in the Nasdaq index in 2000 and in the wake of the "9/11" attacks and the "War on Terror" the intra-day volatility went up to the higher end of the normal historical range, and was around 4%. Today, share prices have been climing steadily for several months and the intra-day volatility has declined sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the normal

range. This means there is exceptional calm on the market. Will such easy going times continue on the stock market?The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems for the USA, both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout of turbulence to financial markets. As a result, share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels. At the same time, intra-day volatility, as an indicator of the turbulence, would also be expected to increase.This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files section of the SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart.Best wishes,Thor

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Dear Iver,

 

Your message is ok.

 

I was reminding of the larger context for an

evaluation of an authentic chart for the USA.

 

To the list given we could add:

 

- setbacks for the USA with regard to objectives of war in Iraq

- setbacks with regard to nuclear developments in Iran

 

as predicted for the USA " setbacks in war fields "

on the basis of the SAMVA USA chart.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

SAMVA , del iver <deliver1900 wrote:

>

> My dear Thor

> i'm still a neophyte when it comes to (any) astro.

> i gave compliments to Raj because that was the right and

honourable thing to do.

> however i'm not trying to detract anyone from your conscientious

work, unthankable by us however hard we try.

> we are indeed very grateful and very much appreciate the

discussions that emanate from real and live issues around the world.

> i challenge everything in life LOL

> but hey man, my knowledge of SA has gone into hyperdrive recently.

> i have always appreciated our guruji's time and efforts and yours

and Vyas and John and Jorge and ... everyone's little bit, all have

added up to a much fuller container of knowledge for me.

> i haven't yet seen a conceptual framework in any astrology even

remotely comparable to SA.

> the simplicity and the principles based SA is far superior.

> knowing you Thor, i know that you will appreciate my quest for

the right Dow chart than maybe anyone else ! LOL

> and to that end i'll challenge every natal LOL

> the dark night of soul is not yet over for me

> a challenge is a test, not an insult

>

> let life be full of bliss for eveyone

> Jai Guru Dev

>

> com> wrote:

> Hello Iver,

>

> Thanks for the update on this particular forecast.

>

> Please note that the predictions on the basis of the SAMVA USA chart

> were more far reaching than the one prediction made on the basis of

> this July 4 1776 chart. So far, the predictions by Professor

Choudhry

> and myself based on the SAMVA USA chart have been realised to a

> reasonable extent save the share price developments made by me. The

> following events comform to the predictions this Spring:

>

> - Difficulties for the US Presidency have been legion

> - An uproar over racial remarks caused involvement of people

> - The communal/political debate has been divisive and bitter

> - The largest mass murder on a college campus has taken place

> - US military casualties in Iraq have increased sharply in April

> - There have been amazing extremes of weather in the US

> - The slump in the housing market accelerated

> - Huge bankruptcies occurred in the sub-prime lending market

> - Turbulence rocked the stock market in late February

>

> Finally, the period for prediction is until mid May 2007.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

>

> SAMVA , del iver wrote:

> >

> > After reading Vyas ji's comments on Dow today, I thought I should

> checkout the 2 forecasts we had discussed b4. Please note: we still

> have time for Thor's forecast to play itself out.

> >

> > But a WOW is in order for Raj Cgadha's forecast.

> >

> > >>I won't buy stocks until the middle of March.

> >

> > If anyone did that they would have amazingly picked the bottom !

> >

> > I am indeed very grateful for Raj Cgadha's taking the time out and

> for his courage to post his unambiguous forecast.

> >

> > Thankyou and congratulations !

> >

> > PS: Raj - if u r game I'd like to discuss the issue further off

> the group ofcourse ?

> > Please revert directly to me deliver1900@ thanx !

> >

> > Raj Cgadha wrote:

> > Iver:

> >

> > Thank you. The basis of my prediction was the USA chart based on

> July 4, 1776, 2:17am. However I use Solar Return charts instead of

> Transits and I analyse SRC strictly with SA principles not Tajaka. I

> believe SRC is only a condensed version of transits. I have

indicated

> this on this board a number of times, but as expected I know it is

> not well taken.

> >

> > It is still not March 29, so I won't buy stocks until the middle

of

> March.

> >

> > Raj Chadha

> >

> > del iver wrote:

> > Congratulations Raj

> > It maybe pre-emptive at this stage but what the heck.

> > Well done !

> >

> > 27th Feb07 decline of 3% = 400 pts

> >

> > Question: Was the analysis based on SA principles ?

> > Could you please explain your rationale ?

> > thanx in advance

> > Iver

> >

> >

> > Raj Cgadha

> > SAMVA

> > Wednesday, February 7, 2007 5:43:14 PM

> > Re: US share prices are high, but predicted to

> decline in Spring 2007

> >

> > Mr. Iver:

> >

> > Although you asked this question to Thor, and he has replied, I

> would like to

> > add my input. My simple answer to your question is that a

correction

> of ca. 10% is possible between Feb 11 and March 29.

> >

> > This is based on a USA chart I have been using for more than 10

> years with remarkable success for predicting USA stock market moves.

> This is neither Feb 2, 1781 nor July 2, 1776 chart which is being

> seriously debated here. It is based on July 4, 1776, 2:17 am. I know

> there is not much of a justification of this early morning time, but

> because it gives such a good explanation of stock market moves I am

> still using it, and I will continue to use it unless somebody comes

up

> with a chart which gives a better explantion of these moves.

> >

> > Raj Chadha

> >

> > del iver wrote:

> > hi Thor

> > " ... share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the

> spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from

> the currently elevated levels. "

> >

> > Would it be possible to narrow down the period to month or week or

> even day/date for such a decline to commence ?

> > Would it possible to say how long (time) such a decline may go

for ?

> > Thanx in advance

> > Iver

> >

> >

> > Cosmologer

> > samva

> > Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:23:27 PM

> > US share prices are high, but predicted to

decline

> in Spring 2007

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows how

> share prices have reached a new historical high - and are indeed

high

> by any standard.

> >

> > Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measured

> as the difference between the high price and the low price in a

given

> day trading session as a percentage of the day´s low price). The

> historical average from 1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal variation

> (one standard deviation) is from 1,4% to 4,2%. This means that close

> to 70% of the variation in volatility is within this range. In the

> Great Depression, the intra-day volatility reached a stunning 8%. In

> the recent period of turbulence following the slump in the Nasdaq

> index in 2000 and in the wake of the " 9/11 " attacks and the " War on

> Terror " the intra-day volatility went up to the higher end of the

> normal historical range, and was around 4%. Today, share prices have

> been climing steadily for several months and the intra-day

volatility

> has declined sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the normal range.

This

> means there is exceptional calm on the market. Will such easy going

> times continue on the stock market?

> >

> > The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems for

> the USA, both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout of

> turbulence to financial markets. As a result, share prices are

likely

> to enter a period of decline in the spring months of 2007 and may

> decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently elevated levels.

> At the same time, intra-day volatility, as an indicator of the

> turbulence, would also be expected to increase.

> >

> > This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files section

> of the SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Thor

>

>

>

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> Check outnew cars at Autos.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Iver,

 

I am only a student myself and wouldn't place myself in the learned category

that you have indicated.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

-

" del iver " <deliver1900

<SAMVA >

Friday, April 20, 2007 7:04 AM

Re: US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in

Spring 2007

 

 

>>Statistical significance and repeatability is key in considering the words

>>of anyone, right or wrong.

 

LOL

thats reminds me of the age-old Q: who am i ?

 

Vyas ji you are a man of big words that are beyond me

i am still a humble student trying to pick up the crumbs

from greats like yourself

i just wanted to congratulate and thank Raj

ofcourse no one else has to, maybe because the post was addressed to me

 

if i ever learn anything of SA it'll be because of such magnanimous

characters like urself, Thor, Jorge, members of this group and the great

guruji himself

 

Jai Guru dev

 

Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

Dear Iver,

 

Yes, bottom in mid-March was certainly realized.

 

Statistical significance and repeatability is key in considering the words

of anyone, right or wrong.

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

-

" del iver "

To:

Cc: " Raj Cgadha "

Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:33 PM

Re: US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in

Spring 2007

 

 

After reading Vyas ji's comments on Dow today, I thought I should checkout

the 2 forecasts we had discussed b4. Please note: we still have time for

Thor's forecast to play itself out.

 

But a WOW is in order for Raj Cgadha's forecast.

 

>>I won't buy stocks until the middle of March.

 

If anyone did that they would have amazingly picked the bottom !

 

I am indeed very grateful for Raj Cgadha's taking the time out and for his

courage to post his unambiguous forecast.

 

Thankyou and congratulations !

 

PS: Raj - if u r game I'd like to discuss the issue further off the group

ofcourse ?

Please revert directly to me deliver1900 thanx !

 

Raj Cgadha wrote:

Iver:

 

Thank you. The basis of my prediction was the USA chart based on July 4,

1776, 2:17am. However I use Solar Return charts instead of Transits and I

analyse SRC strictly with SA principles not Tajaka. I believe SRC is only a

condensed version of transits. I have indicated this on this board a number

of times, but as expected I know it is not well taken.

 

It is still not March 29, so I won't buy stocks until the middle of March.

 

Raj Chadha

 

del iver wrote:

Congratulations Raj

It maybe pre-emptive at this stage but what the heck.

Well done !

 

27th Feb07 decline of 3% = 400 pts

 

Question: Was the analysis based on SA principles ?

Could you please explain your rationale ?

thanx in advance

Iver

 

 

Raj Cgadha

SAMVA

Wednesday, February 7, 2007 5:43:14 PM

Re: US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in

Spring 2007

 

Mr. Iver:

 

Although you asked this question to Thor, and he has replied, I would like

to

add my input. My simple answer to your question is that a correction of ca.

10% is possible between Feb 11 and March 29.

 

This is based on a USA chart I have been using for more than 10 years with

remarkable success for predicting USA stock market moves. This is neither

Feb 2, 1781 nor July 2, 1776 chart which is being seriously debated here. It

is based on July 4, 1776, 2:17 am. I know there is not much of a

justification of this early morning time, but because it gives such a good

explanation of stock market moves I am still using it, and I will continue

to use it unless somebody comes up with a chart which gives a better

explantion of these moves.

 

Raj Chadha

 

del iver wrote:

hi Thor

" ... share prices are likely to enter a period of decline in the spring

months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to 25% from the currently

elevated levels. "

 

Would it be possible to narrow down the period to month or week or even

day/date for such a decline to commence ?

Would it possible to say how long (time) such a decline may go for ?

Thanx in advance

Iver

 

 

Cosmologer

samva

Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:23:27 PM

US share prices are high, but predicted to decline in

Spring 2007

 

Dear friends,

 

The attached Power Point file may be of interest. It shows how share

prices have reached a new historical high - and are indeed high by any

standard.

 

Interestingly, the intra-day volatility of stock prices (measured as the

difference between the high price and the low price in a given day trading

session as a percentage of the day´s low price). The historical average from

1928 to 2007 is 2,8%. The normal variation (one standard deviation) is from

1,4% to 4,2%. This means that close to 70% of the variation in volatility is

within this range. In the Great Depression, the intra-day volatility reached

a stunning 8%. In the recent period of turbulence following the slump in the

Nasdaq index in 2000 and in the wake of the " 9/11 " attacks and the " War on

Terror " the intra-day volatility went up to the higher end of the normal

historical range, and was around 4%. Today, share prices have been climing

steadily for several months and the intra-day volatility has declined

sharply, to around 1,3%, and below the normal range. This means there is

exceptional calm on the market. Will such easy going times continue on the

stock market?

 

The SAMVA USA chart suggests that growing all round problems for the USA,

both at home and abroad, will shortly bring a fresh bout of turbulence to

financial markets. As a result, share prices are likely to enter a period of

decline in the spring months of 2007 and may decline by as much as 15% to

25% from the currently elevated levels. At the same time, intra-day

volatility, as an indicator of the turbulence, would also be expected to

increase.

 

This Power Point file has also been uploaded to the Files section of the

SAMVA web page into the folder SAMVA USA chart.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

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