US rectified chart, Prediction Fulfilled

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Dear Jorge,

 

From the example , I can understand that if

 

1) For a Leo Lagna , Jup in 7th house and if in

D-9 , Cancer is the Lagna Jup becomes FM .In

other words Jupiter is a FM as far as Marriage

matters are concerned. If such a Jupiter

transits the 7th house or the 7th lord Saturn

natally , we can expect friction in married life

? AM I correct?

 

2) For Virgo Lagna , Jup is FB. But in Saptamsa Jup

is MMF . If such a Jup transits 5th lord or 5th

house then also 5th house sign suffers.

 

Kindly revert.

 

Sadasivan

 

--- Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote:

 

> Dear Sally,

>

> The examples given were just regarding US rectifed

> chart, where Jupiter is

> FMP in D4, D5, D6, D11 & D12. As the events under

> analysis were mainly

> related with H6, H4, and H12, the role of Jupiter as

> FMP was played in

> almost all important dates strongly connected with

> war.

>

> In the next example, this lady lost her father on

> May 16, 1990, and her

> mother on September 7, 2000.

>

>

> Lady lost parents;

> Apr 18, 1959 11:34 PM -01:00 BST

> Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:17 Current Period: RA/RA/ME

>

> Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

> ================================================

> Asc 15:00 Sco Anuradha Sa

> Sun 04:51 Ari +00:58:37 WK Aswini Ke

> Moon 06:46 Leo +13:40:43 WK Magha Ke

> Mars 11:31 Gem +00:34:06 FM Ardra Ra

> Merc 09:17 Pis +00:32:32 WK U.Bhadra Sa

> JuptR 07:15 Sco -00:05:21 ST Anuradha Sa

> Ven 11:30 Tau +01:10:46 FM Rohini Mo

> Sat R 13:46 Sag -00:00:12 ST P.Shadya Ve

> Rahu 19:43 Vir +00:01:06 FM Hasta Mo

> Ketu 19:43 Pis +00:01:06 FM Revati Me

>

> True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 982

> beats

> Day: Saturday Sunrise: 6:49 AM

> Tithi: Shukla Ekadashi

> Rashi Chart

>

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> The D-chart related with parents and losses is D-12,

> where Jupiter is the

> MMP. Looking to the dasha and gochar of both dates,

> we can see a close

> contact of Jupiter to the MEPs and the

> significators.

>

> On May 16, 1990, dasha: MO/RA/RA/MA/SA, transit

> Jupiter was over MEP8 (house

> of natal Mars, losses to father), aspecting MEP4 (MT

> house of Saturn), and

> natal retrograde Saturn.

>

> On September, 7, 2000, dasha: MA/JU/VE/SU/SA,

> transit Jupiter was over MEP7,

> influencing natal/transit Venus and MEP1, MEP3

> (losses to mother) and MEP11,

> and natal retrograde Jupiter was exactly aspecting

> transit Saturn, L4

> (mother).

>

> As the lagna is very similar in degree to the

> rectified lagna of US chart,

> Jupiter is also FMP in D4, D5, D6, D11 & D12.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> On 2/14/07, Sally Spencer <sally234

> wrote:

> >

> > I have been looking to many charts and transits

> in the last two and a

> > > half years as you know. Many times I have seen

> the FMPs in the respective

> > > D-chart being closely placed over MEPs or other

> significators for some

> > > negative events concerning those houses.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks Jorge, for answering my question, you do

> see the FMs of D-charts

> > afflicting D1 houses. So, I guess I meant to ask,

> is it regarding the D

> > chart that the malefic event occurs? Or just

> simply that the planet acts

>

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Dear Sadasivan,

 

In my opinion, your understanding is correct.

 

First priority goes always to the role played by the FMPs in D1, but for any area of life a complete analysis requires that we look carefully to the corresponding D-chart, and to the interplay of both charts.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

On 2/14/07, SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote:

Dear Jorge,From the example , I can understand that if1) For a Leo Lagna , Jup in 7th house and if in

D-9 , Cancer is the Lagna Jup becomes FM .Inother words Jupiter is a FM as far as Marriagematters are concerned. If such a Jupitertransits the 7th house or the 7th lord Saturnnatally , we can expect friction in married life

? AM I correct?2) For Virgo Lagna , Jup is FB. But in Saptamsa Jupis MMF . If such a Jup transits 5th lord or 5thhouse then also 5th house sign suffers.Kindly revert.Sadasivan

--- Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote:> Dear Sally,>> The examples given were just regarding US rectifed> chart, where Jupiter is

> FMP in D4, D5, D6, D11 & D12. As the events under> analysis were mainly> related with H6, H4, and H12, the role of Jupiter as> FMP was played in> almost all important dates strongly connected with

> war.>> In the next example, this lady lost her father on> May 16, 1990, and her> mother on September 7, 2000.>>> Lady lost parents;> Apr 18, 1959 11:34 PM -01:00 BST

> Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:17 Current Period: RA/RA/ME>> Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord> ================================================> Asc 15:00 Sco Anuradha Sa

> Sun 04:51 Ari +00:58:37 WK Aswini Ke> Moon 06:46 Leo +13:40:43 WK Magha Ke> Mars 11:31 Gem +00:34:06 FM Ardra Ra> Merc 09:17 Pis +00:32:32 WK U.Bhadra Sa

> JuptR 07:15 Sco -00:05:21 ST Anuradha Sa> Ven 11:30 Tau +01:10:46 FM Rohini Mo> Sat R 13:46 Sag -00:00:12 ST P.Shadya Ve> Rahu 19:43 Vir +00:01:06 FM Hasta Mo

> Ketu 19:43 Pis +00:01:06 FM Revati Me>> True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 982> beats> Day: Saturday Sunrise: 6:49 AM> Tithi: Shukla Ekadashi> Rashi Chart

>*******************************************************> ** 9 * * 7> **> *10* * * *> *> * * * * *

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> The D-chart related with parents and losses is D-12,> where Jupiter is the> MMP. Looking to the dasha and gochar of both dates,> we can see a close> contact of Jupiter to the MEPs and the

> significators.>> On May 16, 1990, dasha: MO/RA/RA/MA/SA, transit> Jupiter was over MEP8 (house> of natal Mars, losses to father), aspecting MEP4 (MT> house of Saturn), and> natal retrograde Saturn.

>> On September, 7, 2000, dasha: MA/JU/VE/SU/SA,> transit Jupiter was over MEP7,> influencing natal/transit Venus and MEP1, MEP3> (losses to mother) and MEP11,> and natal retrograde Jupiter was exactly aspecting

> transit Saturn, L4> (mother).>> As the lagna is very similar in degree to the> rectified lagna of US chart,> Jupiter is also FMP in D4, D5, D6, D11 & D12.>> Best wishes,

>> Jorge>>> On 2/14/07, Sally Spencer <sally234> wrote:> >> > I have been looking to many charts and transits

> in the last two and a> > > half years as you know. Many times I have seen> the FMPs in the respective> > > D-chart being closely placed over MEPs or other> significators for some

> > > negative events concerning those houses.> >> >> >> > Thanks Jorge, for answering my question, you do> see the FMs of D-charts> > afflicting D1 houses. So, I guess I meant to ask,

> is it regarding the D> > chart that the malefic event occurs? Or just> simply that the planet acts>=== message truncated ===

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Dear Jorge,

 

That is why I used friction and not divorce.

Because natally FB Jup in 7th in MEP is good for

marital life . But because Jup is FM in D-9 , its

transit effect on the 7th house and 7th lord

(MT)will create friction . NATAL IS IMP. D CHARTS

SHOW THEIR COLOUR IN TRANSIT .

 

Thanks

Sadasivan

--- Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote:

 

> Dear Sadasivan,

>

> In my opinion, your understanding is correct.

>

> First priority goes always to the role played by the

> FMPs in D1, but for any

> area of life a complete analysis requires that we

> look carefully to the

> corresponding D-chart, and to the interplay of both

> charts.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> On 2/14/07, SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

> <sadasivan_g wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jorge,

> >

> > From the example , I can understand that if

> >

> > 1) For a Leo Lagna , Jup in 7th house and if

> in

> > D-9 , Cancer is the Lagna Jup becomes FM

> .In

> > other words Jupiter is a FM as far as

> Marriage

> > matters are concerned. If such a Jupiter

> > transits the 7th house or the 7th lord

> Saturn

> > natally , we can expect friction in married

> life

> > ? AM I correct?

> >

> > 2) For Virgo Lagna , Jup is FB. But in Saptamsa

> Jup

> > is MMF . If such a Jup transits 5th lord or

> 5th

> > house then also 5th house sign suffers.

> >

> > Kindly revert.

> >

> > Sadasivan

> >

> > --- Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino

> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Sally,

> > >

> > > The examples given were just regarding US

> rectifed

> > > chart, where Jupiter is

> > > FMP in D4, D5, D6, D11 & D12. As the events

> under

> > > analysis were mainly

> > > related with H6, H4, and H12, the role of

> Jupiter as

> > > FMP was played in

> > > almost all important dates strongly connected

> with

> > > war.

> > >

> > > In the next example, this lady lost her father

> on

> > > May 16, 1990, and her

> > > mother on September 7, 2000.

> > >

> > >

> > > Lady lost parents;

> > > Apr 18, 1959 11:34 PM -01:00 BST

> > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:17 Current Period: RA/RA/ME

> > >

> > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

> > > ================================================

> > > Asc 15:00 Sco Anuradha Sa

> > > Sun 04:51 Ari +00:58:37 WK Aswini Ke

> > > Moon 06:46 Leo +13:40:43 WK Magha Ke

> > > Mars 11:31 Gem +00:34:06 FM Ardra Ra

> > > Merc 09:17 Pis +00:32:32 WK U.Bhadra Sa

> > > JuptR 07:15 Sco -00:05:21 ST Anuradha Sa

> > > Ven 11:30 Tau +01:10:46 FM Rohini Mo

> > > Sat R 13:46 Sag -00:00:12 ST P.Shadya Ve

> > > Rahu 19:43 Vir +00:01:06 FM Hasta Mo

> > > Ketu 19:43 Pis +00:01:06 FM Revati Me

> > >

> > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 982

> > > beats

> > > Day: Saturday Sunrise: 6:49 AM

> > > Tithi: Shukla Ekadashi

> > > Rashi Chart

> > >

> >

>

*******************************************************

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> > > *

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