Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Dear list members, Yesterday, it was announced that Vice President Dick Cheney had been diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after returning from a grueling trip around the globe. This health setback raises questions about his ability to keep up with his demanding job but also his fitness to become President of the USA if President Bush for some reason is unable to continue in Office. As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney has today been found guilty in a political scandal. Many see the aide as having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice President. Such adverse developments are consistent with the transit and natal dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes, Thor 1. Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood clot in his leg and is being treated with blood-thinning medication, his office has said. He experienced discomfort in his lower left leg on Monday morning and had medical tests. He returned to work after the examination. He is to be treated with blood-thinning medication for several months. Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac problems. He has suffered four heart attacks and has a pacemaker. DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in 2001 Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - are often associated with long-distance flying because of the reduced air pressure and oxygen levels, and the long periods of inactivity and dehydration which can occur on planes. Clots themselves are not life-threatening but can be dangerous if they become wedged in the lungs or other organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. 2. Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak case Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 By Andy Sullivan WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, a former top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on Tuesday of four counts of obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an investigation tied to the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly said he would seek a new trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to the FBI in the probe surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA analyst in 2003. He faces a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense attorney Theodore Wells said if Libby was denied a new trial, he would appeal the conviction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Dear list members, In addition to the health problem of the Vice President, the perjury verdict against his top aid and the resignation of the Secretary of Defense, there are two other major problems facing the US Presidency at this time. The Democrats have instigated congressional hearings on the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim they were fired for political reasons. Then there is the threat by several US military leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that were not enough, in the background to these more recent developments is the ongoing war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian casulaties. The fact that such major problems are facing the US Presidency all at once are indicated by the severe transit afflictions involving both the natal and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear list members, > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice President Dick Cheney had been > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after returning from a grueling > trip around the globe. This health setback raises questions about his > ability to keep up with his demanding job but also his fitness to > become President of the USA if President Bush for some reason is > unable to continue in Office. > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney has > today been found guilty in a political scandal. Many see the aide as > having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice President. > > Such adverse developments are consistent with the transit and natal > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > 1. > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood clot in his leg and is being > treated with blood-thinning medication, his office has said. > He experienced discomfort in his lower left leg on Monday morning and > had medical tests. He returned to work after the examination. > He is to be treated with blood-thinning medication for several months. > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac problems. He has suffered four > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in 2001 > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - are often associated > with long-distance flying because of the reduced air pressure and > oxygen levels, and the long periods of inactivity and dehydration > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves are not life-threatening > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in the lungs or other > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > 2. > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak case > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > By Andy Sullivan > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, a former top aide to > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on Tuesday of four counts of > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an investigation tied to > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly said he would seek a new > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to the FBI in the probe > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA analyst in 2003. He faces > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense attorney Theodore Wells said > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would appeal the conviction. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Dear list members, The problems for the US Presidency continue. 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another health incident today. 2. President Bush is under pressure because of the scandal involving his Attorney General's office. - He called the besieged Attorney General this morning to confirm his support for him, when most are calling for him to resign or be removed. - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee has insisted that Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the President, testify under oath before the committee about his role in the firings of eight US attorneys. The White House earlier offered to have him interviewed but the Senate Committee turned the offer down. These long standing problems for the US Presidency are consistent with the transit affliction involving the natal L2 Sun and H2, as well as H10, and this week also involving transit L2 Sun and transit L10 Mars, in the SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes, Thor Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in leg with clot POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 Story Highlights • Cheney returns to hospital for treatment after discomfort in leg with blood clot • Ultrasound reveals no complications with clot discovered in February • Vice president returns to work after treatment • Cheney has a history of heart-related problems WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney went to George Washington University Hospital Tuesday morning after experiencing discomfort in his left lower leg, where a blood clot was discovered a few weeks ago. After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was asked to return to the hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the deep venous thrombosis, or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan McGinn " The ultrasound revealed no extension or complication of the clot, " she said. " His blood thinning medication was found to be therapeutic. These results are expected and reassuring, and the current course of treatment will continue. " Cheney returned to the White House to resume his normal schedule, she said. Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a blood clot in the vice president's leg. They said at the time that he likely would have to be treated with blood-thinning medication for several months. Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time that the 66-year-old had visited his doctor's office on March 5 after feeling minor discomfort in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood clot -- called a deep venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. Blood clots that form deep in the legs can become killers if they break off and float into the lungs. This is called a pulmonary embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an estimated 2 million Americans each year, killing 60,000. Many people who suffer DVT do so after spending long periods without moving, such as passengers on long-haul airline flights. Cheney had just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a nine-day, round-the-world trip. Cheney has had had a host of heart-related problems over the years. He had six hours of surgery on his legs in 2005 to repair a kind of aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery that can burst if left untreated. He has had four heart attacks, quadruple bypass surgery, two artery-clearing angioplasties and an operation to implant a special pacemaker in his chest. SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear list members, > > In addition to the health problem of the Vice President, the perjury > verdict against his top aid and the resignation of the Secretary of > Defense, there are two other major problems facing the US Presidency > at this time. The Democrats have instigated congressional hearings on > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim they were fired for > political reasons. Then there is the threat by several US military > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that were not enough, in > the background to these more recent developments is the ongoing > war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian casulaties. The fact > that such major problems are facing the US Presidency all at once are > indicated by the severe transit afflictions involving both the natal > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear list members, > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice President Dick Cheney had been > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after returning from a > grueling > > trip around the globe. This health setback raises questions about > his > > ability to keep up with his demanding job but also his fitness to > > become President of the USA if President Bush for some reason is > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney > has > > today been found guilty in a political scandal. Many see the aide as > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice President. > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent with the transit and natal > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > 1. > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood clot in his leg and is > being > > treated with blood-thinning medication, his office has said. > > He experienced discomfort in his lower left leg on Monday morning > and > > had medical tests. He returned to work after the examination. > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning medication for several > months. > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac problems. He has suffered > four > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in 2001 > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - are often associated > > with long-distance flying because of the reduced air pressure and > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of inactivity and dehydration > > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves are not life-threatening > > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in the lungs or other > > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > > > 2. > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak case > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > By Andy Sullivan > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, a former top aide to > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on Tuesday of four counts > of > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an investigation tied > to > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly said he would seek a > new > > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to the FBI in the probe > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA analyst in 2003. He > faces > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense attorney Theodore Wells > said > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would appeal the conviction. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush warned Democrats Tuesday to accept his offer to have top aides testify about the firings of federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath or risk a constitutional showdown from which he would not back down. Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and firm: They said they would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as Wednesday for the White House aides. " Testimony should be on the record and under oath. That's the formula for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White House, said, " We will not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable public servants. ... I have proposed a reasonable way to avoid an impasse. " He added that federal prosecutors work for him and it is natural to consider replacing them. " There is no indication that anybody did anything improper, " the president said. Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, a boost during an early morning call and ended the day with a public statement repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush said. The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of his authority to fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate confirmation. Democrats contend the Justice Department and White House purged eight federal prosecutors, some of whom were leading political corruption investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act gave Gonzales the new authority. Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, have called for Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful of Republican lawmakers. " What happened in this case sends a signal really through intimidation by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " said Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who spent much of Monday evening paging through 3,000 documents released by the Justice Department. Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, told lawmakers they could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, former White House Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies—but only on the president's terms: in private, " without the need for an oath " and without a transcript. The president cast the offer as virtually unprecedented and a reasonable way for Congress to get all the information it needs about the matter. " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and find the right information, they ought to accept what I proposed, " Bush said. " If scoring political points is the desire, then the rejection of this reasonable proposal will really be evident for the American people to see. " Bush said he would aggressively fight in court any attempt to subpoena White House aides. " If the staff of a president operated in constant fear of being hauled before various committees to discuss internal deliberations, the president would not receive candid advice and the American people would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the situation has gotten to where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., for you. You know there's a lot of politics in this town. " Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate probe into the firings, spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White House: " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to them, but not giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of what really happened here. " Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally required to tell the truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their comments, " it would be almost meaningless to say that they would be under some kind of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours after Bush spoke with Gonzales in an early morning phone call—their first conversation since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his longtime friend and lawmakers of both parties had called for Gonzales' ouster. The White House offered to arrange interviews with Rove, Miers, deputy White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott Jennings, a deputy to White House political director Sara Taylor, who works for Rove. " Such interviews would be private and conducted without the need for an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the subsequent issuance of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the Senate and House Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans. He said documents released by the Justice Department " do not reflect that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere with a pending or future criminal investigation or for any other improper reason. " ___ Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven contributed to this repo SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear list members, > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another health incident today. > 2. President Bush is under pressure because of the scandal involving > his Attorney General's office. > - He called the besieged Attorney General this morning to confirm his > support for him, when most are calling for him to resign or be removed. > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee has insisted that > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the President, testify under oath > before the committee about his role in the firings of eight US > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to have him interviewed but > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > These long standing problems for the US Presidency are consistent with > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 Sun and H2, as well as > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 Sun and transit L10 Mars, > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in leg with clot > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > Story Highlights > • Cheney returns to hospital for treatment after discomfort in leg > with blood clot > • Ultrasound reveals no complications with clot discovered in February > • Vice president returns to work after treatment > • Cheney has a history of heart-related problems > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney went to George > Washington University Hospital Tuesday morning after experiencing > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a blood clot was discovered a > few weeks ago. > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was asked to return to the > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the deep venous thrombosis, > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan McGinn > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or complication of the clot, " > she said. " His blood thinning medication was found to be therapeutic. > These results are expected and reassuring, and the current course of > treatment will continue. " > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume his normal schedule, she > said. > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a blood clot in the vice > president's leg. They said at the time that he likely would have to be > treated with blood-thinning medication for several months. > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time that the 66-year-old had > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after feeling minor discomfort > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood clot -- called a deep > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can become killers if they > break off and float into the lungs. This is called a pulmonary > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an estimated 2 million > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after spending long periods without > moving, such as passengers on long-haul airline flights. Cheney had > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a nine-day, round-the-world trip. > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related problems over the years. > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in 2005 to repair a kind of > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery that can burst if left > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, quadruple bypass surgery, > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an operation to implant a > special pacemaker in his chest. > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear list members, > > > > In addition to the health problem of the Vice President, the perjury > > verdict against his top aid and the resignation of the Secretary of > > Defense, there are two other major problems facing the US Presidency > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated congressional hearings on > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim they were fired for > > political reasons. Then there is the threat by several US military > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that were not enough, in > > the background to these more recent developments is the ongoing > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian casulaties. The fact > > that such major problems are facing the US Presidency all at once are > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions involving both the natal > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice President Dick Cheney had been > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after returning from a > > grueling > > > trip around the globe. This health setback raises questions about > > his > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job but also his fitness to > > > become President of the USA if President Bush for some reason is > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney > > has > > > today been found guilty in a political scandal. Many see the aide as > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice President. > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent with the transit and natal > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > 1. > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood clot in his leg and is > > being > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, his office has said. > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower left leg on Monday morning > > and > > > had medical tests. He returned to work after the examination. > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning medication for several > > months. > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac problems. He has suffered > > four > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in 2001 > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - are often associated > > > with long-distance flying because of the reduced air pressure and > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of inactivity and dehydration > > > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves are not life-threatening > > > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in the lungs or other > > > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > > > > > 2. > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak case > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, a former top aide to > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on Tuesday of four counts > > of > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an investigation tied > > to > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly said he would seek a > > new > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to the FBI in the probe > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA analyst in 2003. He > > faces > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense attorney Theodore Wells > > said > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would appeal the conviction. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Dear list members, Given the stationary transit affliction of natal Sun in the SAMVA USA chart, there is a seeming endless stream of obstacles being thrown in the way of President Bush. Best wishes, Thor Developing story on CNN.com: The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to require President Bush to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall 2008, despite a White House veto threat. House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern By ANNE FLAHERTY Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted Friday to order President Bush to bring combat troops home from Iraq next year, a victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers struggle and Congress' boldest challenge yet to the administration's policy. Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers voted 218-212, mostly along party lines, for a war spending bill requiring that combat operations cease before September 2008, or earlier if the Iraqi government does not meet certain requirements. Democrats said it was time to heed the mandate of their election sweep last November, which gave them control of Congress. " The American people have lost faith in the president's conduct of this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. " The American people see the reality of the war, the president does not. " SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush warned Democrats Tuesday to > accept his offer to have top aides testify about the firings of > federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath or risk a > constitutional showdown from which he would not back down. > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and firm: They said they > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as Wednesday for the White > House aides. > > " Testimony should be on the record and under oath. That's the formula > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate > Judiciary Committee. > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White House, said, " We will > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable > public servants. ... I have proposed a reasonable way to avoid an > impasse. " > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him and it is natural to > consider replacing them. " There is no indication that anybody did > anything improper, " the president said. > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, a boost > during an early morning call and ended the day with a public statement > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush said. > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of his authority to > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate confirmation. Democrats > contend the Justice Department and White House purged eight federal > prosecutors, some of whom were leading political corruption > investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act gave Gonzales the > new authority. > > Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls Hillary Rodham > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, have called for > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful of Republican > lawmakers. > > " What happened in this case sends a signal really through intimidation > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " said Sen. Sheldon > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who spent much of Monday > evening paging through 3,000 documents released by the Justice Department. > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, told lawmakers they > could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, former White House > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies—but only on the president's > terms: in private, " without the need for an oath " and without a > transcript. > > The president cast the offer as virtually unprecedented and a > reasonable way for Congress to get all the information it needs about > the matter. > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and find the right > information, they ought to accept what I proposed, " Bush said. " If > scoring political points is the desire, then the rejection of this > reasonable proposal will really be evident for the American people to > see. " > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court any attempt to subpoena > White House aides. > > " If the staff of a president operated in constant fear of being hauled > before various committees to discuss internal deliberations, the > president would not receive candid advice and the American people > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the situation has gotten to > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., for you. You know there's > a lot of politics in this town. " > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate probe into the firings, > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White House: > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to them, but not > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of what really happened > here. " > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally required to tell the > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their comments, " it > would be almost meaningless to say that they would be under some kind > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours after Bush spoke > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call—their first conversation > since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his longtime friend > and lawmakers of both parties had called for Gonzales' ouster. > > The White House offered to arrange interviews with Rove, Miers, deputy > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott Jennings, a deputy to > White House political director Sara Taylor, who works for Rove. > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted without the need for > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the subsequent issuance > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the Senate and House > Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans. > > He said documents released by the Justice Department " do not reflect > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere with a pending or > future criminal investigation or for any other improper reason. " > > ___ > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven contributed to this repo > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear list members, > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another health incident today. > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because of the scandal involving > > his Attorney General's office. > > - He called the besieged Attorney General this morning to confirm his > > support for him, when most are calling for him to resign or be removed. > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee has insisted that > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the President, testify under oath > > before the committee about his role in the firings of eight US > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to have him interviewed but > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > These long standing problems for the US Presidency are consistent with > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 Sun and H2, as well as > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 Sun and transit L10 Mars, > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in leg with clot > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > Story Highlights > > • Cheney returns to hospital for treatment after discomfort in leg > > with blood clot > > • Ultrasound reveals no complications with clot discovered in February > > • Vice president returns to work after treatment > > • Cheney has a history of heart-related problems > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney went to George > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday morning after experiencing > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a blood clot was discovered a > > few weeks ago. > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was asked to return to the > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the deep venous thrombosis, > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan McGinn > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or complication of the clot, " > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was found to be therapeutic. > > These results are expected and reassuring, and the current course of > > treatment will continue. " > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume his normal schedule, she > > said. > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a blood clot in the vice > > president's leg. They said at the time that he likely would have to be > > treated with blood-thinning medication for several months. > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time that the 66-year-old had > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after feeling minor discomfort > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood clot -- called a deep > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can become killers if they > > break off and float into the lungs. This is called a pulmonary > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an estimated 2 million > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after spending long periods without > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul airline flights. Cheney had > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a nine-day, round-the-world > trip. > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related problems over the years. > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in 2005 to repair a kind of > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery that can burst if left > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, quadruple bypass surgery, > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an operation to implant a > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the Vice President, the perjury > > > verdict against his top aid and the resignation of the Secretary of > > > Defense, there are two other major problems facing the US Presidency > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated congressional hearings on > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim they were fired for > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat by several US military > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that were not enough, in > > > the background to these more recent developments is the ongoing > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian casulaties. The fact > > > that such major problems are facing the US Presidency all at once are > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions involving both the natal > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice President Dick Cheney had been > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after returning from a > > > grueling > > > > trip around the globe. This health setback raises questions about > > > his > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job but also his fitness to > > > > become President of the USA if President Bush for some reason is > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney > > > has > > > > today been found guilty in a political scandal. Many see the aide as > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice President. > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent with the transit and natal > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood clot in his leg and is > > > being > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, his office has said. > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower left leg on Monday morning > > > and > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work after the examination. > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning medication for several > > > months. > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac problems. He has suffered > > > four > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in 2001 > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - are often associated > > > > with long-distance flying because of the reduced air pressure and > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of inactivity and dehydration > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves are not life-threatening > > > > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in the lungs or other > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak case > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, a former top aide to > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on Tuesday of four counts > > > of > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an investigation tied > > > to > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly said he would seek a > > > new > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to the FBI in the probe > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA analyst in 2003. He > > > faces > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense attorney Theodore Wells > > > said > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would appeal the conviction. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 dear thor... here is another one, too.... david hawthorne WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary J. Steven Griles pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a Senate committee's investigation, becoming the highest-ranking Bush administration official convicted in the Jack Abramoff corruption scandal. The former No. 2 official in the Interior Department admitted in federal court that he lied to the Senate about his relationship with convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought Griles' intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's Indian tribal clients. Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for testifying falsely before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on November 2, 2005, and during an earlier deposition with the panel's investigators on October 20, 2005. "I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the responsibility for my conduct and the consequences it may have," Griles said in a statement. "When a Senate committee asks questions, they must be answered fully and completely, and it is not my place to decide whether those questions are relevant or too personal. I apologize to my family, my friends, the committee and its staff." - cosmologer SAMVA Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM Re: Problems for the US Presidency Dear list members,Given the stationary transit affliction of natal Sun in the SAMVA USAchart, there is a seeming endless stream of obstacles being thrown in the way of President Bush. Best wishes,ThorDeveloping story on CNN.com: The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to require President Bushto pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall 2008, despite a WhiteHouse veto threat. House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq Mar 23 11:54 AM US/EasternBy ANNE FLAHERTYAssociated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted Friday to orderPresident Bush to bring combat troops home from Iraq next year, avictory for Democrats in an epic war-powers struggle and Congress'boldest challenge yet to the administration's policy.Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers voted 218-212, mostlyalong party lines, for a war spending bill requiring that combatoperations cease before September 2008, or earlier if the Iraqigovernment does not meet certain requirements. Democrats said it wastime to heed the mandate of their election sweep last November, whichgave them control of Congress."The American people have lost faith in the president's conduct ofthis war," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. "The Americanpeople see the reality of the war, the president does not."SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer wrote:>> Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern> By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush warned Democrats Tuesday to> accept his offer to have top aides testify about the firings of> federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath or risk a> constitutional showdown from which he would not back down.> > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and firm: They said they> would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as Wednesday for the White> House aides.> > "Testimony should be on the record and under oath. That's the formula> for true accountability," said Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate> Judiciary Committee.> > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White House, said, "We will> not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable> public servants. ... I have proposed a reasonable way to avoid an> impasse."> > He added that federal prosecutors work for him and it is natural to> consider replacing them. "There is no indication that anybody did> anything improper," the president said.> > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, a boost> during an early morning call and ended the day with a public statement> repeating it. "He's got support with me," Bush said.> > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of his authority to> fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate confirmation. Democrats> contend the Justice Department and White House purged eight federal> prosecutors, some of whom were leading political corruption> investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act gave Gonzales the> new authority.> > Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls Hillary Rodham> Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, have called for> Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful of Republican> lawmakers.> > "What happened in this case sends a signal really through intimidation> by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,'" said Sen. Sheldon> Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who spent much of Monday> evening paging through 3,000 documents released by the JusticeDepartment.> > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, told lawmakers they> could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, former White House> Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but only on the president's> terms: in private, "without the need for an oath" and without a> transcript.> > The president cast the offer as virtually unprecedented and a> reasonable way for Congress to get all the information it needs about> the matter.> > "If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and find the right> information, they ought to accept what I proposed," Bush said. "If> scoring political points is the desire, then the rejection of this> reasonable proposal will really be evident for the American people to> see."> > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court any attempt to subpoena> White House aides.> > "If the staff of a president operated in constant fear of being hauled> before various committees to discuss internal deliberations, the> president would not receive candid advice and the American people> would be ill-served," he said. "I'm sorry the situation has gotten to> where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., for you. You know there's> a lot of politics in this town."> > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate probe into the firings,> spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White House:> > "It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to them, but not> giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of what really happened> here."> > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally required to tell the> truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their comments, "it> would be almost meaningless to say that they would be under some kind> of legal sanction," Schumer complained.> > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours after Bush spoke> with Gonzales in an early morning phone call-their first conversation> since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his longtime friend> and lawmakers of both parties had called for Gonzales' ouster.> > The White House offered to arrange interviews with Rove, Miers, deputy> White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott Jennings, a deputy to> White House political director Sara Taylor, who works for Rove.> > "Such interviews would be private and conducted without the need for> an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the subsequent issuance> of subpoenas," Fielding said in a letter to the Senate and House> Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans.> > He said documents released by the Justice Department "do not reflect> that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere with a pending or> future criminal investigation or for any other improper reason."> > ___> > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven contributed to this repo> > SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> wrote:> >> > Dear list members,> > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue.> > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another health incident today. > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because of the scandal involving> > his Attorney General's office. > > - He called the besieged Attorney General this morning to confirm his> > support for him, when most are calling for him to resign or beremoved.> > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee has insisted that> > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the President, testify under oath> > before the committee about his role in the firings of eight US> > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to have him interviewed but> > the Senate Committee turned the offer down.> > > > These long standing problems for the US Presidency are consistent with> > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 Sun and H2, as well as> > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 Sun and transit L10 Mars,> > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > Best wishes,> > > > Thor> > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in leg with clot> > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007> > Story Highlights> > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment after discomfort in leg> > with blood clot> > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with clot discovered inFebruary> > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after treatment> > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related problems> > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney went to George> > Washington University Hospital Tuesday morning after experiencing> > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a blood clot was discovered a> > few weeks ago.> > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was asked to return to the> > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the deep venous thrombosis,> > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan McGinn> > > > "The ultrasound revealed no extension or complication of the clot,"> > she said. "His blood thinning medication was found to be therapeutic.> > These results are expected and reassuring, and the current course of> > treatment will continue."> > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume his normal schedule, she> > said.> > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a blood clot in the vice> > president's leg. They said at the time that he likely would have to be> > treated with blood-thinning medication for several months.> > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time that the 66-year-old had> > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after feeling minor discomfort> > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood clot -- called a deep> > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg.> > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can become killers if they> > break off and float into the lungs. This is called a pulmonary> > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an estimated 2 million> > Americans each year, killing 60,000.> > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after spending long periods without> > moving, such as passengers on long-haul airline flights. Cheney had> > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a nine-day, round-the-world> trip.> > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related problems over the years.> > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in 2005 to repair a kind of> > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery that can burst if left> > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, quadruple bypass surgery,> > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an operation to implant a> > special pacemaker in his chest.> > SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear list members, > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the Vice President, theperjury > > > verdict against his top aid and the resignation of the Secretary of > > > Defense, there are two other major problems facing the USPresidency > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated congressionalhearings on > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim they were fired for > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat by several US military > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that were not enough, in > > > the background to these more recent developments is the ongoing > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian casulaties. Thefact > > > that such major problems are facing the US Presidency all atonce are > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions involving both thenatal > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart.> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice President Dick Cheneyhad been> > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after returning from a > > > grueling> > > > trip around the globe. This health setback raises questions about > > > his> > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job but also his fitness to> > > > become President of the USA if President Bush for some reason is> > > > unable to continue in Office.> > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney > > > has> > > > today been found guilty in a political scandal. Many see theaide as> > > > having become a "fall guy" to protect the Vice President. > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent with the transit andnatal> > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart.> > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > > 1.> > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg> > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood clot in his leg and is > > > being> > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, his office has said.> > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower left leg on Monday morning > > > and> > > > had medical tests. He returned to work after the examination.> > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning medication for several > > > months.> > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac problems. He has suffered > > > four> > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH> > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000> > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988> > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in 2001> > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005> > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - are often associated> > > > with long-distance flying because of the reduced air pressure and> > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of inactivity and dehydration> > > > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves are notlife-threatening> > > > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in the lungs or other> > > > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > > > > > > > 2.> > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak case> > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15> > > > By Andy Sullivan> > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis "Scooter" Libby, a former top aide to> > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on Tuesday of fourcounts > > > of> > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an investigationtied > > > to> > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly said he wouldseek a > > > new> > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to the FBI in the probe> > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA analyst in 2003. He > > > faces> > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense attorney Theodore Wells > > > said> > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would appeal the conviction.> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Dear David and list members, Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the US Presidency is clearly above normal levels these days. Also another story indicating problems, this time for the military. It occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is opposite transit L8 Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine officers, including up to four generals, be held accountable for missteps in the aftermath of the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, AP reports citing senior defense officials. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david wrote: > > dear thor... > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > -- > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary J. Steven Griles pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a Senate committee's investigation, becoming the highest-ranking Bush administration official convicted in the Jack Abramoff corruption scandal. > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior Department admitted in federal court that he lied to the Senate about his relationship with convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought Griles' intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's Indian tribal clients. > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for testifying falsely before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on November 2, 2005, and during an earlier deposition with the panel's investigators on October 20, 2005. > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the responsibility for my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles said in a statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, they must be answered fully and completely, and it is not my place to decide whether those questions are relevant or too personal. I apologize to my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > - > cosmologer > SAMVA > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > Dear list members, > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal Sun in the SAMVA USA > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of obstacles being thrown in > the way of President Bush. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Developing story on CNN.com: > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to require President Bush > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall 2008, despite a White > House veto threat. > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > By ANNE FLAHERTY > Associated Press Writer > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted Friday to order > President Bush to bring combat troops home from Iraq next year, a > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers struggle and Congress' > boldest challenge yet to the administration's policy. > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers voted 218-212, mostly > along party lines, for a war spending bill requiring that combat > operations cease before September 2008, or earlier if the Iraqi > government does not meet certain requirements. Democrats said it was > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep last November, which > gave them control of Congress. > > " The American people have lost faith in the president's conduct of > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. " The American > people see the reality of the war, the president does not. " > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush warned Democrats Tuesday to > > accept his offer to have top aides testify about the firings of > > federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath or risk a > > constitutional showdown from which he would not back down. > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and firm: They said they > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as Wednesday for the White > > House aides. > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under oath. That's the formula > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White House, said, " We will > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable > > public servants. ... I have proposed a reasonable way to avoid an > > impasse. " > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him and it is natural to > > consider replacing them. " There is no indication that anybody did > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, a boost > > during an early morning call and ended the day with a public statement > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush said. > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of his authority to > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate confirmation. Democrats > > contend the Justice Department and White House purged eight federal > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading political corruption > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act gave Gonzales the > > new authority. > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls Hillary Rodham > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, have called for > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful of Republican > > lawmakers. > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal really through intimidation > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " said Sen. Sheldon > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who spent much of Monday > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released by the Justice > Department. > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, told lawmakers they > > could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, former White House > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but only on the president's > > terms: in private, " without the need for an oath " and without a > > transcript. > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually unprecedented and a > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the information it needs about > > the matter. > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and find the right > > information, they ought to accept what I proposed, " Bush said. " If > > scoring political points is the desire, then the rejection of this > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for the American people to > > see. " > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court any attempt to subpoena > > White House aides. > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in constant fear of being hauled > > before various committees to discuss internal deliberations, the > > president would not receive candid advice and the American people > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the situation has gotten to > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., for you. You know there's > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate probe into the firings, > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White House: > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to them, but not > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of what really happened > > here. " > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally required to tell the > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their comments, " it > > would be almost meaningless to say that they would be under some kind > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours after Bush spoke > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call-their first conversation > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his longtime friend > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for Gonzales' ouster. > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews with Rove, Miers, deputy > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott Jennings, a deputy to > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who works for Rove. > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted without the need for > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the subsequent issuance > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the Senate and House > > Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans. > > > > He said documents released by the Justice Department " do not reflect > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere with a pending or > > future criminal investigation or for any other improper reason. " > > > > ___ > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven contributed to this repo > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another health incident today. > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because of the scandal involving > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General this morning to confirm his > > > support for him, when most are calling for him to resign or be > removed. > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee has insisted that > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the President, testify under oath > > > before the committee about his role in the firings of eight US > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to have him interviewed but > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US Presidency are consistent with > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 Sun and H2, as well as > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 Sun and transit L10 Mars, > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in leg with clot > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > Story Highlights > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment after discomfort in leg > > > with blood clot > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with clot discovered in > February > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after treatment > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related problems > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney went to George > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday morning after experiencing > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a blood clot was discovered a > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was asked to return to the > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the deep venous thrombosis, > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan McGinn > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or complication of the clot, " > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was found to be therapeutic. > > > These results are expected and reassuring, and the current course of > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume his normal schedule, she > > > said. > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a blood clot in the vice > > > president's leg. They said at the time that he likely would have to be > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for several months. > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time that the 66-year-old had > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after feeling minor discomfort > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood clot -- called a deep > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can become killers if they > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is called a pulmonary > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an estimated 2 million > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after spending long periods without > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul airline flights. Cheney had > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a nine-day, round-the-world > > trip. > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related problems over the years. > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in 2005 to repair a kind of > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery that can burst if left > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, quadruple bypass surgery, > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an operation to implant a > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the Vice President, the > perjury > > > > verdict against his top aid and the resignation of the Secretary of > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems facing the US > Presidency > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated congressional > hearings on > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim they were fired for > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat by several US military > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that were not enough, in > > > > the background to these more recent developments is the ongoing > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian casulaties. The > fact > > > > that such major problems are facing the US Presidency all at > once are > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions involving both the > natal > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice President Dick Cheney > had been > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after returning from a > > > > grueling > > > > > trip around the globe. This health setback raises questions about > > > > his > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job but also his fitness to > > > > > become President of the USA if President Bush for some reason is > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney > > > > has > > > > > today been found guilty in a political scandal. Many see the > aide as > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice President. > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent with the transit and > natal > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood clot in his leg and is > > > > being > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, his office has said. > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower left leg on Monday morning > > > > and > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work after the examination. > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning medication for several > > > > months. > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac problems. He has suffered > > > > four > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in 2001 > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - are often associated > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the reduced air pressure and > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of inactivity and dehydration > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves are not > life-threatening > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in the lungs or other > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak case > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, a former top aide to > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on Tuesday of four > counts > > > > of > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an investigation > tied > > > > to > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly said he would > seek a > > > > new > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to the FBI in the probe > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA analyst in 2003. He > > > > faces > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense attorney Theodore Wells > > > > said > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would appeal the conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Dear friends, The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The Democratically controlled Congress since last November has begun to show its teeth and has in recent weeks created major problems for the President, and now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has been passed setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared the US should not withdraw until the job is done. The US President now has only one recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in both chambers of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a development is only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even further, adding to the problems. Such developments are consistent with the transit and period dynmamics in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn in H1 now closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart Saturn rules 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader of the country'. This affliction arouses the natal such affliction. Moreover, L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of the 'executive' and the general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up in this affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In coming days it will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the conditions. This and other political developments show clearly that the prediction of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the Spring months is being realised. The chart also suggests the intensity of the difficulties will increase before they begin to abate in the second half of May. Best wishes, Thor Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 Story Highlights • NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto • Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from funding bill • Administration contends setting timetable assumes failure in Iraq • Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, sets March 2008 deadline WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the Democratic-led Senate turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for U.S. withdrawal from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, Tuesday. Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds majority needed to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a sign of growing support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of the House and reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American people, " said Sen. Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be heeded by the president and by the government of Iraq. " The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin withdrawing from Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next March. A reduced American contingent would stay to focus on training Iraqi troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, said that effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo to our enemies that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the day we leave, " he said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we plan to walk away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we leave behind. " (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 billion already approved for this year and would drive the price tag for the now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. The Pentagon says it would have to start diverting funds from other programs to Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. The spending bill passed the House of Representatives with an August 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any bill that contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he considers extraneous pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure as " political theater. " White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that threat Tuesday. " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in the field, this bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This and other provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at grave risk, embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's plans to develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. commander outline his concerns Video) Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority fell short of another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. Republicans had used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous statements of opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would not use that tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this case because " it's important to get the money to the troops. " Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call for a pullout is a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy mistake of our time " to an end. " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it is their country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White House hustling Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a possible tie. Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid acknowledged, " We don't know how it's going to turn out. " Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Gordon Smith of Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP-backed amendment. (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) " The American people are demanding that we develop a bipartisan consensus for an honorable and responsible exit strategy from Iraq, " said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential candidate. " If we fail to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, America will pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will have difficulty recovering from in the years ahead. " One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined Connecticut independent Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. And Virginia Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan to send 30,000 more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on Tuesday's vote, warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the bugle of retreat. " " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in Iraq that coalition forces have begun to take the first step backwards, " said Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. " We cannot take that step -- not at this time. " SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear David and list members, > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the US Presidency is > clearly above normal levels these days. > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for the military. It > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is opposite transit L8 > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine officers, including up to > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in the aftermath of > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, AP reports citing > senior defense officials. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david@> wrote: > > > > dear thor... > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > -- > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary J. Steven Griles > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a Senate > committee's investigation, becoming the highest-ranking Bush > administration official convicted in the Jack Abramoff corruption scandal. > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior Department admitted in > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his relationship with > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought Griles' > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's Indian tribal clients. > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for testifying falsely > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on November 2, 2005, and > during an earlier deposition with the panel's investigators on October > 20, 2005. > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the responsibility for > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles said in a > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, they must be > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place to decide > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. I apologize to > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > cosmologer > > SAMVA > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal Sun in the SAMVA USA > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of obstacles being thrown in > > the way of President Bush. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to require President Bush > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall 2008, despite a White > > House veto threat. > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > Associated Press Writer > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted Friday to order > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from Iraq next year, a > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers struggle and Congress' > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's policy. > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers voted 218-212, mostly > > along party lines, for a war spending bill requiring that combat > > operations cease before September 2008, or earlier if the Iraqi > > government does not meet certain requirements. Democrats said it was > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep last November, which > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the president's conduct of > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. " The American > > people see the reality of the war, the president does not. " > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush warned Democrats > Tuesday to > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify about the firings of > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath or risk a > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not back down. > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and firm: They > said they > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as Wednesday for the White > > > House aides. > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under oath. That's the > formula > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White House, said, > " We will > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a reasonable way to avoid an > > > impasse. " > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him and it is natural to > > > consider replacing them. " There is no indication that anybody did > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, a boost > > > during an early morning call and ended the day with a public > statement > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush said. > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of his authority to > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate confirmation. Democrats > > > contend the Justice Department and White House purged eight federal > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading political corruption > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act gave Gonzales the > > > new authority. > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls Hillary Rodham > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, have called for > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful of Republican > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal really through > intimidation > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " said Sen. Sheldon > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who spent much of Monday > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released by the Justice > > Department. > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, told lawmakers > they > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, former White House > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but only on the president's > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an oath " and without a > > > transcript. > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually unprecedented and a > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the information it needs > about > > > the matter. > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and find the right > > > information, they ought to accept what I proposed, " Bush said. " If > > > scoring political points is the desire, then the rejection of this > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for the American > people to > > > see. " > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court any attempt to > subpoena > > > White House aides. > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in constant fear of being > hauled > > > before various committees to discuss internal deliberations, the > > > president would not receive candid advice and the American people > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the situation has > gotten to > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., for you. You know > there's > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate probe into the > firings, > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White House: > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to them, but not > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of what really > happened > > > here. " > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally required to tell the > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their comments, " it > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they would be under some > kind > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours after Bush spoke > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call-their first > conversation > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his longtime friend > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for Gonzales' ouster. > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews with Rove, Miers, > deputy > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott Jennings, a > deputy to > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who works for Rove. > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted without the need for > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the subsequent issuance > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the Senate and House > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans. > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice Department " do not reflect > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere with a pending or > > > future criminal investigation or for any other improper reason. " > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven contributed to this repo > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another health incident today. > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because of the scandal > involving > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General this morning to > confirm his > > > > support for him, when most are calling for him to resign or be > > removed. > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee has insisted > that > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the President, testify under oath > > > > before the committee about his role in the firings of eight US > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to have him > interviewed but > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US Presidency are > consistent with > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 Sun and H2, as > well as > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 Sun and transit > L10 Mars, > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in leg with clot > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > Story Highlights > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment after discomfort > in leg > > > > with blood clot > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with clot discovered in > > February > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after treatment > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related problems > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney went to George > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday morning after experiencing > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a blood clot was > discovered a > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was asked to return > to the > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the deep venous > thrombosis, > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan McGinn > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or complication of the > clot, " > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was found to be > therapeutic. > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, and the current > course of > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume his normal > schedule, she > > > > said. > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a blood clot in > the vice > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that he likely would > have to be > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for several months. > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time that the > 66-year-old had > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after feeling minor > discomfort > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood clot -- called a deep > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can become killers if they > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is called a pulmonary > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an estimated 2 million > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after spending long periods > without > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul airline flights. > Cheney had > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a nine-day, > round-the-world > > > trip. > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related problems over the > years. > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in 2005 to repair a > kind of > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery that can burst > if left > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, quadruple bypass > surgery, > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an operation to implant a > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the Vice President, the > > perjury > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the resignation of the > Secretary of > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems facing the US > > Presidency > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated congressional > > hearings on > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim they were fired for > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat by several US > military > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that were not > enough, in > > > > > the background to these more recent developments is the ongoing > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian casulaties. The > > fact > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US Presidency all at > > once are > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions involving both the > > natal > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice President Dick Cheney > > had been > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after returning from a > > > > > grueling > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health setback raises > questions about > > > > > his > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job but also his > fitness to > > > > > > become President of the USA if President Bush for some > reason is > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice President Dick > Cheney > > > > > has > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political scandal. Many see the > > aide as > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice President. > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent with the transit and > > natal > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood clot in his leg > and is > > > > > being > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, his office has said. > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower left leg on Monday > morning > > > > > and > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work after the examination. > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning medication for > several > > > > > months. > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac problems. He has > suffered > > > > > four > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in 2001 > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - are often > associated > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the reduced air > pressure and > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of inactivity and > dehydration > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves are not > > life-threatening > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in the lungs or > other > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak case > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, a former top > aide to > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on Tuesday of four > > counts > > > > > of > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an investigation > > tied > > > > > to > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly said he would > > seek a > > > > > new > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to the FBI in > the probe > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA analyst in > 2003. He > > > > > faces > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense attorney Theodore > Wells > > > > > said > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would appeal the > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Hello my dear Thor, Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts and the close affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu axis are showing the impact of current affliction in the chart in a pronounced manner. Best wishes. - " cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM Re: Problems for the US Presidency Dear friends, The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The Democratically controlled Congress since last November has begun to show its teeth and has in recent weeks created major problems for the President, and now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has been passed setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared the US should not withdraw until the job is done. The US President now has only one recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in both chambers of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a development is only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even further, adding to the problems. Such developments are consistent with the transit and period dynmamics in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn in H1 now closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart Saturn rules 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader of the country'. This affliction arouses the natal such affliction. Moreover, L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of the 'executive' and the general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up in this affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In coming days it will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the conditions. This and other political developments show clearly that the prediction of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the Spring months is being realised. The chart also suggests the intensity of the difficulties will increase before they begin to abate in the second half of May. Best wishes, Thor Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 Story Highlights .. NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto .. Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from funding bill .. Administration contends setting timetable assumes failure in Iraq .. Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, sets March 2008 deadline WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the Democratic-led Senate turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for U.S. withdrawal from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, Tuesday. Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds majority needed to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a sign of growing support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of the House and reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American people, " said Sen. Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be heeded by the president and by the government of Iraq. " The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin withdrawing from Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next March. A reduced American contingent would stay to focus on training Iraqi troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, said that effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo to our enemies that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the day we leave, " he said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we plan to walk away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we leave behind. " (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 billion already approved for this year and would drive the price tag for the now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. The Pentagon says it would have to start diverting funds from other programs to Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. The spending bill passed the House of Representatives with an August 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any bill that contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he considers extraneous pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure as " political theater. " White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that threat Tuesday. " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in the field, this bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This and other provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at grave risk, embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's plans to develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. commander outline his concerns Video) Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority fell short of another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. Republicans had used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous statements of opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would not use that tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this case because " it's important to get the money to the troops. " Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call for a pullout is a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy mistake of our time " to an end. " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it is their country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White House hustling Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a possible tie. Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid acknowledged, " We don't know how it's going to turn out. " Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Gordon Smith of Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP-backed amendment. (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) " The American people are demanding that we develop a bipartisan consensus for an honorable and responsible exit strategy from Iraq, " said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential candidate. " If we fail to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, America will pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will have difficulty recovering from in the years ahead. " One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined Connecticut independent Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. And Virginia Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan to send 30,000 more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on Tuesday's vote, warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the bugle of retreat. " " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in Iraq that coalition forces have begun to take the first step backwards, " said Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. " We cannot take that step -- not at this time. " SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear David and list members, > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the US Presidency is > clearly above normal levels these days. > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for the military. It > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is opposite transit L8 > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine officers, including up to > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in the aftermath of > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, AP reports citing > senior defense officials. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david@> wrote: > > > > dear thor... > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > -- > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary J. Steven Griles > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a Senate > committee's investigation, becoming the highest-ranking Bush > administration official convicted in the Jack Abramoff corruption scandal. > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior Department admitted in > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his relationship with > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought Griles' > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's Indian tribal clients. > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for testifying falsely > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on November 2, 2005, and > during an earlier deposition with the panel's investigators on October > 20, 2005. > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the responsibility for > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles said in a > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, they must be > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place to decide > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. I apologize to > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > cosmologer > > SAMVA > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal Sun in the SAMVA USA > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of obstacles being thrown in > > the way of President Bush. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to require President Bush > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall 2008, despite a White > > House veto threat. > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > Associated Press Writer > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted Friday to order > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from Iraq next year, a > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers struggle and Congress' > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's policy. > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers voted 218-212, mostly > > along party lines, for a war spending bill requiring that combat > > operations cease before September 2008, or earlier if the Iraqi > > government does not meet certain requirements. Democrats said it was > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep last November, which > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the president's conduct of > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. " The American > > people see the reality of the war, the president does not. " > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush warned Democrats > Tuesday to > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify about the firings of > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath or risk a > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not back down. > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and firm: They > said they > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as Wednesday for the White > > > House aides. > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under oath. That's the > formula > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White House, said, > " We will > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a reasonable way to avoid an > > > impasse. " > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him and it is natural to > > > consider replacing them. " There is no indication that anybody did > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, a boost > > > during an early morning call and ended the day with a public > statement > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush said. > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of his authority to > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate confirmation. Democrats > > > contend the Justice Department and White House purged eight federal > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading political corruption > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act gave Gonzales the > > > new authority. > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls Hillary Rodham > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, have called for > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful of Republican > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal really through > intimidation > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " said Sen. Sheldon > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who spent much of Monday > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released by the Justice > > Department. > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, told lawmakers > they > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, former White House > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but only on the president's > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an oath " and without a > > > transcript. > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually unprecedented and a > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the information it needs > about > > > the matter. > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and find the right > > > information, they ought to accept what I proposed, " Bush said. " If > > > scoring political points is the desire, then the rejection of this > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for the American > people to > > > see. " > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court any attempt to > subpoena > > > White House aides. > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in constant fear of being > hauled > > > before various committees to discuss internal deliberations, the > > > president would not receive candid advice and the American people > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the situation has > gotten to > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., for you. You know > there's > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate probe into the > firings, > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White House: > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to them, but not > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of what really > happened > > > here. " > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally required to tell the > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their comments, " it > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they would be under some > kind > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours after Bush spoke > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call-their first > conversation > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his longtime friend > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for Gonzales' ouster. > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews with Rove, Miers, > deputy > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott Jennings, a > deputy to > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who works for Rove. > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted without the need for > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the subsequent issuance > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the Senate and House > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans. > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice Department " do not reflect > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere with a pending or > > > future criminal investigation or for any other improper reason. " > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven contributed to this repo > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another health incident today. > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because of the scandal > involving > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General this morning to > confirm his > > > > support for him, when most are calling for him to resign or be > > removed. > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee has insisted > that > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the President, testify under oath > > > > before the committee about his role in the firings of eight US > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to have him > interviewed but > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US Presidency are > consistent with > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 Sun and H2, as > well as > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 Sun and transit > L10 Mars, > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in leg with clot > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > Story Highlights > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment after discomfort > in leg > > > > with blood clot > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with clot discovered in > > February > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after treatment > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related problems > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney went to George > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday morning after experiencing > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a blood clot was > discovered a > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was asked to return > to the > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the deep venous > thrombosis, > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan McGinn > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or complication of the > clot, " > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was found to be > therapeutic. > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, and the current > course of > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume his normal > schedule, she > > > > said. > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a blood clot in > the vice > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that he likely would > have to be > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for several months. > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time that the > 66-year-old had > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after feeling minor > discomfort > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood clot -- called a deep > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can become killers if they > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is called a pulmonary > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an estimated 2 million > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after spending long periods > without > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul airline flights. > Cheney had > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a nine-day, > round-the-world > > > trip. > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related problems over the > years. > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in 2005 to repair a > kind of > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery that can burst > if left > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, quadruple bypass > surgery, > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an operation to implant a > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the Vice President, the > > perjury > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the resignation of the > Secretary of > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems facing the US > > Presidency > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated congressional > > hearings on > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim they were fired for > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat by several US > military > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that were not > enough, in > > > > > the background to these more recent developments is the ongoing > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian casulaties. The > > fact > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US Presidency all at > > once are > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions involving both the > > natal > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice President Dick Cheney > > had been > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after returning from a > > > > > grueling > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health setback raises > questions about > > > > > his > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job but also his > fitness to > > > > > > become President of the USA if President Bush for some > reason is > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice President Dick > Cheney > > > > > has > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political scandal. Many see the > > aide as > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice President. > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent with the transit and > > natal > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood clot in his leg > and is > > > > > being > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, his office has said. > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower left leg on Monday > morning > > > > > and > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work after the examination. > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning medication for > several > > > > > months. > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac problems. He has > suffered > > > > > four > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in 2001 > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - are often > associated > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the reduced air > pressure and > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of inactivity and > dehydration > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves are not > > life-threatening > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in the lungs or > other > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak case > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, a former top > aide to > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on Tuesday of four > > counts > > > > > of > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an investigation > > tied > > > > > to > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly said he would > > seek a > > > > > new > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to the FBI in > the probe > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA analyst in > 2003. He > > > > > faces > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense attorney Theodore > Wells > > > > > said > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would appeal the > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Dear , Thank you for the additional insights. For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit nodes on H2 MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in turn its affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to explain these events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on natal L2 Sun? If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8 Saturn on natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the indications of the Sun? Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , <siha wrote: > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts and the close > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu axis are showing the > impact of current affliction in the chart in a pronounced manner. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > - > " cosmologer " <cosmologer > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > Dear friends, > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The Democratically > controlled Congress since last November has begun to show its teeth > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the President, and > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has been passed > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared the US should > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President now has only one > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in both chambers > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a development is > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even further, > adding to the problems. > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and period dynmamics > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn in H1 now > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart Saturn rules > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader of the > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such affliction. Moreover, > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of the 'executive' and the > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up in this > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In coming days it > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the conditions. > > This and other political developments show clearly that the prediction > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the Spring months > is being realised. The chart also suggests the intensity of the > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate in the second > half of May. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 > Story Highlights > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from funding bill > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes failure in Iraq > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, sets March 2008 > deadline > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the Democratic-led Senate > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for U.S. withdrawal > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, Tuesday. > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds majority needed > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a sign of growing > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. > > " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of the House and > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American people, " said Sen. > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be heeded by the > president and by the government of Iraq. " > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin withdrawing from > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next March. A > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on training Iraqi > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, said that > effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. > > " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo to our enemies > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the day we leave, " he > said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we plan to walk > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we leave behind. " > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 billion already > approved for this year and would drive the price tag for the > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. The Pentagon > says it would have to start diverting funds from other programs to > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives with an August > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any bill that > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he considers extraneous > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure as " political > theater. " > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that threat Tuesday. > > " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in the field, this > bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This and other > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at grave risk, > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's plans to > develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. commander outline his > concerns Video) > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority fell short of > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. Republicans had > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous statements of > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would not use that > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this case because > " it's important to get the money to the troops. " > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call for a pullout is > a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy mistake of our time " > to an end. > > " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it is their > country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White House hustling > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a possible tie. > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid acknowledged, " We don't > know how it's going to turn out. " > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Gordon Smith of > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP-backed amendment. > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) > > " The American people are demanding that we develop a bipartisan > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit strategy from Iraq, " > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential candidate. " If we fail > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, America will > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will have difficulty > recovering from in the years ahead. " > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined Connecticut independent > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. And Virginia > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan to send 30,000 > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on Tuesday's vote, > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the bugle of retreat. " > > " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in Iraq that > coalition forces have begun to take the first step backwards, " said > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. " We > cannot take that step -- not at this time. " > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear David and list members, > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the US Presidency is > > clearly above normal levels these days. > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for the military. It > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is opposite transit L8 > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine officers, including up to > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in the aftermath of > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, AP reports citing > > senior defense officials. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david@> wrote: > > > > > > dear thor... > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > > > > > -- ------------ > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary J. Steven Griles > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a Senate > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest-ranking Bush > > administration official convicted in the Jack Abramoff corruption > scandal. > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior Department admitted in > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his relationship with > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought Griles' > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's Indian tribal > clients. > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for testifying falsely > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on November 2, 2005, and > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's investigators on October > > 20, 2005. > > > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the responsibility for > > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles said in a > > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, they must be > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place to decide > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. I apologize to > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > cosmologer > > > SAMVA > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal Sun in the > SAMVA USA > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of obstacles being > thrown in > > > the way of President Bush. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to require President > Bush > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall 2008, despite a White > > > House veto threat. > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted Friday to order > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from Iraq next year, a > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers struggle and Congress' > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's policy. > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers voted 218-212, mostly > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill requiring that combat > > > operations cease before September 2008, or earlier if the Iraqi > > > government does not meet certain requirements. Democrats said it was > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep last November, > which > > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the president's conduct of > > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. " The American > > > people see the reality of the war, the president does not. " > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush warned Democrats > > Tuesday to > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify about the firings of > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath or risk a > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not back down. > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and firm: They > > said they > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as Wednesday for the > White > > > > House aides. > > > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under oath. That's the > > formula > > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, chairman of the > Senate > > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White House, said, > > " We will > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a reasonable way to avoid an > > > > impasse. " > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him and it is > natural to > > > > consider replacing them. " There is no indication that anybody did > > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, a > boost > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day with a public > > statement > > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush said. > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of his authority to > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate confirmation. > Democrats > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House purged eight > federal > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading political corruption > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act gave > Gonzales the > > > > new authority. > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls Hillary Rodham > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, have > called for > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful of Republican > > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal really through > > intimidation > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " said Sen. Sheldon > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who spent much of > Monday > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released by the Justice > > > Department. > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, told lawmakers > > they > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, former White > House > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but only on the > president's > > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an oath " and without a > > > > transcript. > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually unprecedented and a > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the information it needs > > about > > > > the matter. > > > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and find the right > > > > information, they ought to accept what I proposed, " Bush said. " If > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then the rejection of this > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for the American > > people to > > > > see. " > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court any attempt to > > subpoena > > > > White House aides. > > > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in constant fear of being > > hauled > > > > before various committees to discuss internal deliberations, the > > > > president would not receive candid advice and the American people > > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the situation has > > gotten to > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., for you. You know > > there's > > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate probe into the > > firings, > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White House: > > > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to them, but not > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of what really > > happened > > > > here. " > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally required to > tell the > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their comments, " it > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they would be under some > > kind > > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours after Bush > spoke > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call-their first > > conversation > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his longtime > friend > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for Gonzales' ouster. > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews with Rove, Miers, > > deputy > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott Jennings, a > > deputy to > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who works for Rove. > > > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted without the > need for > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the subsequent > issuance > > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the Senate and House > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans. > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice Department " do not > reflect > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere with a pending or > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other improper reason. " > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven contributed to this repo > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another health incident > today. > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because of the scandal > > involving > > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General this morning to > > confirm his > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for him to resign or be > > > removed. > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee has insisted > > that > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the President, testify under > oath > > > > > before the committee about his role in the firings of eight US > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to have him > > interviewed but > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US Presidency are > > consistent with > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 Sun and H2, as > > well as > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 Sun and transit > > L10 Mars, > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in leg with clot > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment after discomfort > > in leg > > > > > with blood clot > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with clot discovered in > > > February > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after treatment > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related problems > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney went to George > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday morning after > experiencing > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a blood clot was > > discovered a > > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was asked to return > > to the > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the deep venous > > thrombosis, > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan McGinn > > > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or complication of the > > clot, " > > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was found to be > > therapeutic. > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, and the current > > course of > > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume his normal > > schedule, she > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a blood clot in > > the vice > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that he likely would > > have to be > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for several months. > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time that the > > 66-year-old had > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after feeling minor > > discomfort > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood clot -- called a > deep > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can become killers if > they > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is called a pulmonary > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an estimated 2 million > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after spending long periods > > without > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul airline flights. > > Cheney had > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a nine-day, > > round-the-world > > > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related problems over the > > years. > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in 2005 to repair a > > kind of > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery that can burst > > if left > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, quadruple bypass > > surgery, > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an operation to implant a > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the Vice President, the > > > perjury > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the resignation of the > > Secretary of > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems facing the US > > > Presidency > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated congressional > > > hearings on > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim they were > fired for > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat by several US > > military > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that were not > > enough, in > > > > > > the background to these more recent developments is the > ongoing > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian > casulaties. The > > > fact > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US Presidency all at > > > once are > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions involving both the > > > natal > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice President Dick Cheney > > > had been > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after returning > from a > > > > > > grueling > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health setback raises > > questions about > > > > > > his > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job but also his > > fitness to > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President Bush for some > > reason is > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice President Dick > > Cheney > > > > > > has > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political scandal. Many see the > > > aide as > > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice President. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent with the > transit and > > > natal > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood clot in his leg > > and is > > > > > > being > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, his office has said. > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower left leg on Monday > > morning > > > > > > and > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work after the > examination. > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning medication for > > several > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac problems. He has > > suffered > > > > > > four > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in 2001 > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - are often > > associated > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the reduced air > > pressure and > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of inactivity and > > dehydration > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves are not > > > life-threatening > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in the lungs or > > other > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak case > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, a former top > > aide to > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on Tuesday of four > > > counts > > > > > > of > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an > investigation > > > tied > > > > > > to > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly said he would > > > seek a > > > > > > new > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to the FBI in > > the probe > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA analyst in > > 2003. He > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense attorney Theodore > > Wells > > > > > > said > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would appeal the > > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Hello my dear Thor, All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by you and take part in making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting situations and obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at the highest level in US. I was partially looking into the aspect of conflicts. Best wishes. - " cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM Re: Problems for the US Presidency Dear , Thank you for the additional insights. For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit nodes on H2 MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in turn its affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to explain these events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on natal L2 Sun? If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8 Saturn on natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the indications of the Sun? Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , <siha wrote: > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts and the close > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu axis are showing the > impact of current affliction in the chart in a pronounced manner. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > - > " cosmologer " <cosmologer > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > Dear friends, > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The Democratically > controlled Congress since last November has begun to show its teeth > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the President, and > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has been passed > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared the US should > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President now has only one > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in both chambers > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a development is > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even further, > adding to the problems. > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and period dynmamics > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn in H1 now > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart Saturn rules > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader of the > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such affliction. Moreover, > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of the 'executive' and the > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up in this > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In coming days it > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the conditions. > > This and other political developments show clearly that the prediction > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the Spring months > is being realised. The chart also suggests the intensity of the > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate in the second > half of May. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 > Story Highlights > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from funding bill > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes failure in Iraq > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, sets March 2008 > deadline > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the Democratic-led Senate > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for U.S. withdrawal > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, Tuesday. > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds majority needed > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a sign of growing > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. > > " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of the House and > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American people, " said Sen. > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be heeded by the > president and by the government of Iraq. " > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin withdrawing from > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next March. A > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on training Iraqi > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, said that > effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. > > " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo to our enemies > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the day we leave, " he > said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we plan to walk > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we leave behind. " > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 billion already > approved for this year and would drive the price tag for the > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. The Pentagon > says it would have to start diverting funds from other programs to > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives with an August > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any bill that > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he considers extraneous > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure as " political > theater. " > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that threat Tuesday. > > " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in the field, this > bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This and other > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at grave risk, > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's plans to > develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. commander outline his > concerns Video) > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority fell short of > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. Republicans had > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous statements of > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would not use that > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this case because > " it's important to get the money to the troops. " > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call for a pullout is > a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy mistake of our time " > to an end. > > " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it is their > country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White House hustling > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a possible tie. > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid acknowledged, " We don't > know how it's going to turn out. " > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Gordon Smith of > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP-backed amendment. > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) > > " The American people are demanding that we develop a bipartisan > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit strategy from Iraq, " > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential candidate. " If we fail > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, America will > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will have difficulty > recovering from in the years ahead. " > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined Connecticut independent > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. And Virginia > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan to send 30,000 > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on Tuesday's vote, > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the bugle of retreat. " > > " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in Iraq that > coalition forces have begun to take the first step backwards, " said > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. " We > cannot take that step -- not at this time. " > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear David and list members, > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the US Presidency is > > clearly above normal levels these days. > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for the military. It > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is opposite transit L8 > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine officers, including up to > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in the aftermath of > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, AP reports citing > > senior defense officials. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david@> wrote: > > > > > > dear thor... > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > > > > > -- ------------ > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary J. Steven Griles > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a Senate > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest-ranking Bush > > administration official convicted in the Jack Abramoff corruption > scandal. > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior Department admitted in > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his relationship with > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought Griles' > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's Indian tribal > clients. > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for testifying falsely > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on November 2, 2005, and > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's investigators on October > > 20, 2005. > > > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the responsibility for > > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles said in a > > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, they must be > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place to decide > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. I apologize to > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > cosmologer > > > SAMVA > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal Sun in the > SAMVA USA > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of obstacles being > thrown in > > > the way of President Bush. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to require President > Bush > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall 2008, despite a White > > > House veto threat. > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted Friday to order > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from Iraq next year, a > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers struggle and Congress' > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's policy. > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers voted 218-212, mostly > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill requiring that combat > > > operations cease before September 2008, or earlier if the Iraqi > > > government does not meet certain requirements. Democrats said it was > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep last November, > which > > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the president's conduct of > > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. " The American > > > people see the reality of the war, the president does not. " > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush warned Democrats > > Tuesday to > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify about the firings of > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath or risk a > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not back down. > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and firm: They > > said they > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as Wednesday for the > White > > > > House aides. > > > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under oath. That's the > > formula > > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, chairman of the > Senate > > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White House, said, > > " We will > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a reasonable way to avoid an > > > > impasse. " > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him and it is > natural to > > > > consider replacing them. " There is no indication that anybody did > > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, a > boost > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day with a public > > statement > > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush said. > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of his authority to > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate confirmation. > Democrats > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House purged eight > federal > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading political corruption > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act gave > Gonzales the > > > > new authority. > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls Hillary Rodham > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, have > called for > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful of Republican > > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal really through > > intimidation > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " said Sen. Sheldon > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who spent much of > Monday > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released by the Justice > > > Department. > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, told lawmakers > > they > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, former White > House > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but only on the > president's > > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an oath " and without a > > > > transcript. > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually unprecedented and a > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the information it needs > > about > > > > the matter. > > > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and find the right > > > > information, they ought to accept what I proposed, " Bush said. " If > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then the rejection of this > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for the American > > people to > > > > see. " > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court any attempt to > > subpoena > > > > White House aides. > > > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in constant fear of being > > hauled > > > > before various committees to discuss internal deliberations, the > > > > president would not receive candid advice and the American people > > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the situation has > > gotten to > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., for you. You know > > there's > > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate probe into the > > firings, > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White House: > > > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to them, but not > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of what really > > happened > > > > here. " > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally required to > tell the > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their comments, " it > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they would be under some > > kind > > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours after Bush > spoke > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call-their first > > conversation > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his longtime > friend > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for Gonzales' ouster. > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews with Rove, Miers, > > deputy > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott Jennings, a > > deputy to > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who works for Rove. > > > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted without the > need for > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the subsequent > issuance > > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the Senate and House > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans. > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice Department " do not > reflect > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere with a pending or > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other improper reason. " > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven contributed to this repo > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another health incident > today. > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because of the scandal > > involving > > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General this morning to > > confirm his > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for him to resign or be > > > removed. > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee has insisted > > that > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the President, testify under > oath > > > > > before the committee about his role in the firings of eight US > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to have him > > interviewed but > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US Presidency are > > consistent with > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 Sun and H2, as > > well as > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 Sun and transit > > L10 Mars, > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in leg with clot > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment after discomfort > > in leg > > > > > with blood clot > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with clot discovered in > > > February > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after treatment > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related problems > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney went to George > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday morning after > experiencing > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a blood clot was > > discovered a > > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was asked to return > > to the > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the deep venous > > thrombosis, > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan McGinn > > > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or complication of the > > clot, " > > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was found to be > > therapeutic. > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, and the current > > course of > > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume his normal > > schedule, she > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a blood clot in > > the vice > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that he likely would > > have to be > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for several months. > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time that the > > 66-year-old had > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after feeling minor > > discomfort > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood clot -- called a > deep > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can become killers if > they > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is called a pulmonary > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an estimated 2 million > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after spending long periods > > without > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul airline flights. > > Cheney had > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a nine-day, > > round-the-world > > > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related problems over the > > years. > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in 2005 to repair a > > kind of > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery that can burst > > if left > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, quadruple bypass > > surgery, > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an operation to implant a > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the Vice President, the > > > perjury > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the resignation of the > > Secretary of > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems facing the US > > > Presidency > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated congressional > > > hearings on > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim they were > fired for > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat by several US > > military > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that were not > > enough, in > > > > > > the background to these more recent developments is the > ongoing > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian > casulaties. The > > > fact > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US Presidency all at > > > once are > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions involving both the > > > natal > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice President Dick Cheney > > > had been > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after returning > from a > > > > > > grueling > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health setback raises > > questions about > > > > > > his > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job but also his > > fitness to > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President Bush for some > > reason is > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice President Dick > > Cheney > > > > > > has > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political scandal. Many see the > > > aide as > > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice President. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent with the > transit and > > > natal > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood clot in his leg > > and is > > > > > > being > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, his office has said. > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower left leg on Monday > > morning > > > > > > and > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work after the > examination. > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning medication for > > several > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac problems. He has > > suffered > > > > > > four > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in 2001 > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - are often > > associated > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the reduced air > > pressure and > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of inactivity and > > dehydration > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves are not > > > life-threatening > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in the lungs or > > other > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak case > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, a former top > > aide to > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on Tuesday of four > > > counts > > > > > > of > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an > investigation > > > tied > > > > > > to > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly said he would > > > seek a > > > > > > new > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to the FBI in > > the probe > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA analyst in > > 2003. He > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense attorney Theodore > > Wells > > > > > > said > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would appeal the > > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Dear , Thank you for the additional clarification. Indeed, there is an unusual amount of adverse transit impacts active at present in the SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , <siha wrote: > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by you and take part in > making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting situations and > obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at the highest level in > US. I was partially looking into the aspect of conflicts. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > - > " cosmologer " <cosmologer > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > Dear , > > Thank you for the additional insights. > > For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit nodes on H2 > MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in turn its > affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to explain these > events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on natal L2 > Sun? > > If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8 Saturn on > natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the indications of > the Sun? > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts and the > close > > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu axis are > showing the > > impact of current affliction in the chart in a pronounced manner. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > <SAMVA > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The Democratically > > controlled Congress since last November has begun to show its teeth > > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the President, > and > > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has been passed > > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. > > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared the US should > > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President now has only > one > > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in both chambers > > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a development is > > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even further, > > adding to the problems. > > > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and period > dynmamics > > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn in H1 now > > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart Saturn rules > > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader of the > > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such affliction. > Moreover, > > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of the 'executive' and the > > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up in this > > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In coming days it > > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the conditions. > > > > This and other political developments show clearly that the > prediction > > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the Spring > months > > is being realised. The chart also suggests the intensity of the > > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate in the second > > half of May. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote > > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 > > Story Highlights > > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto > > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from funding bill > > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes failure in Iraq > > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, sets March > 2008 > > deadline > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the Democratic-led > Senate > > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for U.S. > withdrawal > > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, Tuesday. > > > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds majority needed > > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a sign of growing > > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. > > > > " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of the House > and > > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American people, " said > Sen. > > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be heeded by > the > > president and by the government of Iraq. " > > > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin withdrawing from > > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next March. A > > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on training Iraqi > > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, said that > > effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. > > > > " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo to our enemies > > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the day we leave, " > he > > said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we plan to walk > > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we leave > behind. " > > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) > > > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 billion already > > approved for this year and would drive the price tag for the > > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. The Pentagon > > says it would have to start diverting funds from other programs to > > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. > > > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives with an August > > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any bill that > > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he considers > extraneous > > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure as " political > > theater. " > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that threat Tuesday. > > > > " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in the field, > this > > bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This and other > > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at grave risk, > > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's plans to > > develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. commander outline > his > > concerns Video) > > > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority fell short of > > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. Republicans had > > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous statements of > > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would not use that > > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this case because > > " it's important to get the money to the troops. " > > > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call for a pullout > is > > a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy mistake of our > time " > > to an end. > > > > " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it is their > > country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. > > > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White House hustling > > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a possible tie. > > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid acknowledged, " We don't > > know how it's going to turn out. " > > > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Gordon Smith of > > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP-backed amendment. > > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) > > > > " The American people are demanding that we develop a bipartisan > > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit strategy from Iraq, " > > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential candidate. " If we > fail > > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, America will > > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will have difficulty > > recovering from in the years ahead. " > > > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined Connecticut independent > > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. And Virginia > > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan to send > 30,000 > > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on Tuesday's vote, > > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the bugle of > retreat. " > > > > " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in Iraq that > > coalition forces have begun to take the first step backwards, " said > > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services > Committee. " We > > cannot take that step -- not at this time. " > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear David and list members, > > > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the US Presidency > is > > > clearly above normal levels these days. > > > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for the > military. It > > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is opposite transit > L8 > > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine officers, including > up to > > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in the aftermath > of > > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, AP reports > citing > > > senior defense officials. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear thor... > > > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ------------ > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary J. Steven > Griles > > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a Senate > > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest-ranking Bush > > > administration official convicted in the Jack Abramoff corruption > > scandal. > > > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior Department admitted in > > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his relationship > with > > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought Griles' > > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's Indian tribal > > clients. > > > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for testifying falsely > > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on November 2, 2005, > and > > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's investigators on > October > > > 20, 2005. > > > > > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the > responsibility for > > > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles said in a > > > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, they must be > > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place to decide > > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. I apologize > to > > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > cosmologer > > > > SAMVA > > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal Sun in the > > SAMVA USA > > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of obstacles being > > thrown in > > > > the way of President Bush. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to require > President > > Bush > > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall 2008, despite > a White > > > > House veto threat. > > > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted Friday to > order > > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from Iraq next > year, a > > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers struggle and > Congress' > > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's policy. > > > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers voted 218-212, > mostly > > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill requiring that > combat > > > > operations cease before September 2008, or earlier if the > Iraqi > > > > government does not meet certain requirements. Democrats said > it was > > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep last > November, > > which > > > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the president's > conduct of > > > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. " The > American > > > > people see the reality of the war, the president does not. " > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush warned Democrats > > > Tuesday to > > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify about the > firings of > > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath or > risk a > > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not back down. > > > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and firm: They > > > said they > > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as Wednesday for > the > > White > > > > > House aides. > > > > > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under oath. That's > the > > > formula > > > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, chairman of > the > > Senate > > > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White House, > said, > > > " We will > > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at > honorable > > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a reasonable way to > avoid an > > > > > impasse. " > > > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him and it is > > natural to > > > > > consider replacing them. " There is no indication that > anybody did > > > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, > a > > boost > > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day with a public > > > statement > > > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush said. > > > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of his > authority to > > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate confirmation. > > Democrats > > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House purged eight > > federal > > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading political corruption > > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act gave > > Gonzales the > > > > > new authority. > > > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls Hillary > Rodham > > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, have > > called for > > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful of > Republican > > > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal really through > > > intimidation > > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " said Sen. > Sheldon > > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who spent much of > > Monday > > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released by the > Justice > > > > Department. > > > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, told > lawmakers > > > they > > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, former > White > > House > > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but only on the > > president's > > > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an oath " and > without a > > > > > transcript. > > > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually unprecedented and > a > > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the information it > needs > > > about > > > > > the matter. > > > > > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and find > the right > > > > > information, they ought to accept what I proposed, " Bush > said. " If > > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then the rejection > of this > > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for the American > > > people to > > > > > see. " > > > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court any attempt > to > > > subpoena > > > > > White House aides. > > > > > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in constant fear of > being > > > hauled > > > > > before various committees to discuss internal > deliberations, the > > > > > president would not receive candid advice and the American > people > > > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the situation has > > > gotten to > > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., for you. You > know > > > there's > > > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate probe into the > > > firings, > > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White House: > > > > > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to them, > but not > > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of what > really > > > happened > > > > > here. " > > > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally required to > > tell the > > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their > comments, " it > > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they would be under > some > > > kind > > > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours after > Bush > > spoke > > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call-their first > > > conversation > > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his > longtime > > friend > > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for Gonzales' > ouster. > > > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews with Rove, > Miers, > > > deputy > > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott Jennings, a > > > deputy to > > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who works for > Rove. > > > > > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted without the > > need for > > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the subsequent > > issuance > > > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the Senate and > House > > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans. > > > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice Department " do not > > reflect > > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere with a > pending or > > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other improper > reason. " > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven contributed to this > repo > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another health incident > > today. > > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because of the scandal > > > involving > > > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General this morning to > > > confirm his > > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for him to resign > or be > > > > removed. > > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee has > insisted > > > that > > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the President, testify > under > > oath > > > > > > before the committee about his role in the firings of > eight US > > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to have him > > > interviewed but > > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US Presidency are > > > consistent with > > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 Sun and H2, > as > > > well as > > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 Sun and > transit > > > L10 Mars, > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in leg with clot > > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment after > discomfort > > > in leg > > > > > > with blood clot > > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with clot > discovered in > > > > February > > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after treatment > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related problems > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney went to > George > > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday morning after > > experiencing > > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a blood clot was > > > discovered a > > > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was asked to > return > > > to the > > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the deep venous > > > thrombosis, > > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan McGinn > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or complication of > the > > > clot, " > > > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was found to be > > > therapeutic. > > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, and the current > > > course of > > > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume his normal > > > schedule, she > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a blood clot > in > > > the vice > > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that he likely > would > > > have to be > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for several months. > > > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time that the > > > 66-year-old had > > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after feeling minor > > > discomfort > > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood clot -- > called a > > deep > > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can become killers > if > > they > > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is called a > pulmonary > > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an estimated 2 > million > > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after spending long > periods > > > without > > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul airline flights. > > > Cheney had > > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a nine-day, > > > round-the-world > > > > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related problems over > the > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in 2005 to repair > a > > > kind of > > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery that can > burst > > > if left > > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, quadruple bypass > > > surgery, > > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an operation to > implant a > > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the Vice > President, the > > > > perjury > > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the resignation of the > > > Secretary of > > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems facing the > US > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated > congressional > > > > hearings on > > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim they were > > fired for > > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat by several > US > > > military > > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that were not > > > enough, in > > > > > > > the background to these more recent developments is the > > ongoing > > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian > > casulaties. The > > > > fact > > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US Presidency > all at > > > > once are > > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions involving > both the > > > > natal > > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice President Dick > Cheney > > > > had been > > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after returning > > from a > > > > > > > grueling > > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health setback raises > > > questions about > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job but also his > > > fitness to > > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President Bush for some > > > reason is > > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice President > Dick > > > Cheney > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political scandal. Many > see the > > > > aide as > > > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice > President. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent with the > > transit and > > > > natal > > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood clot in his > leg > > > and is > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, his office > has said. > > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower left leg on > Monday > > > morning > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work after the > > examination. > > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning medication for > > > several > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac problems. He > has > > > suffered > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in 2001 > > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - are > often > > > associated > > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the reduced air > > > pressure and > > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of inactivity and > > > dehydration > > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves are not > > > > life-threatening > > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in the > lungs or > > > other > > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak case > > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, a > former top > > > aide to > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on Tuesday > of four > > > > counts > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an > > investigation > > > > tied > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly said he > would > > > > seek a > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to the FBI > in > > > the probe > > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA analyst > in > > > 2003. He > > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense attorney > Theodore > > > Wells > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would appeal the > > > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Dear friends, Two news items have appeared this weekend signalling difficulty for President Bush, also related to 4th house matters. One has to do with emission of greenhouse gasses. The other story has to do with regulations concerning logging in wildlife areas. Bush had proposed more freedom, but the judge insisted that environmental considerations be brought into the picture, reversing the regulation. Such stories show the impact of the present transits in the SAMVA USA chart with regard to L2 Sun and L4 Venus. Best wishes, Thor Split court rules against Bush on greenhouse gases POSTED: 10:50 a.m. EDT, April 2, 2007 WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ordered the federal government on Monday to take a fresh look at regulating carbon dioxide emissions from cars, a rebuke to Bush administration policy on global warming. In a 5-4 decision, the court said the Clean Air Act gives the Environmental Protection Agency the authority to regulate the emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from cars. http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/02/scotus.greenhousegas.ap/index.html SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear , > > Thank you for the additional clarification. > > Indeed, there is an unusual amount of adverse transit impacts active > at present in the SAMVA USA chart. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by you and > take part in > > making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting situations > and > > obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at the highest > level in > > US. I was partially looking into the aspect of conflicts. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > <SAMVA > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > Dear , > > > > Thank you for the additional insights. > > > > For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit nodes on H2 > > MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in turn its > > affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to explain these > > events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on natal L2 > > Sun? > > > > If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8 Saturn on > > natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the indications of > > the Sun? > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts and the > > close > > > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu axis are > > showing the > > > impact of current affliction in the chart in a pronounced manner. > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > <SAMVA > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The Democratically > > > controlled Congress since last November has begun to show its > teeth > > > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the President, > > and > > > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has been passed > > > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. > > > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared the US > should > > > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President now has only > > one > > > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in both > chambers > > > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a development is > > > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even further, > > > adding to the problems. > > > > > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and period > > dynmamics > > > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn in H1 now > > > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart Saturn rules > > > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader of the > > > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such affliction. > > Moreover, > > > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of the 'executive' and > the > > > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up in this > > > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In coming days > it > > > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the conditions. > > > > > > This and other political developments show clearly that the > > prediction > > > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the Spring > > months > > > is being realised. The chart also suggests the intensity of the > > > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate in the > second > > > half of May. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote > > > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 > > > Story Highlights > > > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto > > > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from funding bill > > > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes failure in > Iraq > > > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, sets March > > 2008 > > > deadline > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the Democratic-led > > Senate > > > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for U.S. > > withdrawal > > > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, Tuesday. > > > > > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds majority > needed > > > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a sign of > growing > > > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. > > > > > > " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of the House > > and > > > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American people, " said > > Sen. > > > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be heeded by > > the > > > president and by the government of Iraq. " > > > > > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin withdrawing > from > > > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next March. A > > > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on training Iraqi > > > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. > > > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, said that > > > effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. > > > > > > " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo to our > enemies > > > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the day we > leave, " > > he > > > said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we plan to > walk > > > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we leave > > behind. " > > > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) > > > > > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 billion already > > > approved for this year and would drive the price tag for the > > > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. The Pentagon > > > says it would have to start diverting funds from other programs to > > > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. > > > > > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives with an > August > > > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any bill that > > > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he considers > > extraneous > > > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure > as " political > > > theater. " > > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that threat > Tuesday. > > > > > > " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in the field, > > this > > > bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This and other > > > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at grave > risk, > > > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's plans to > > > develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. commander outline > > his > > > concerns Video) > > > > > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority fell short of > > > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. Republicans > had > > > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous statements of > > > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would not use > that > > > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this case because > > > " it's important to get the money to the troops. " > > > > > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call for a > pullout > > is > > > a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy mistake of our > > time " > > > to an end. > > > > > > " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it is their > > > country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. > > > > > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White House > hustling > > > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a possible > tie. > > > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid acknowledged, " We don't > > > know how it's going to turn out. " > > > > > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Gordon Smith > of > > > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP-backed > amendment. > > > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) > > > > > > " The American people are demanding that we develop a bipartisan > > > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit strategy from > Iraq, " > > > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential candidate. " If we > > fail > > > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, America > will > > > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will have > difficulty > > > recovering from in the years ahead. " > > > > > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined Connecticut > independent > > > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. And Virginia > > > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan to send > > 30,000 > > > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on Tuesday's > vote, > > > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the bugle of > > retreat. " > > > > > > " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in Iraq that > > > coalition forces have begun to take the first step backwards, " > said > > > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services > > Committee. " We > > > cannot take that step -- not at this time. " > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear David and list members, > > > > > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the US > Presidency > > is > > > > clearly above normal levels these days. > > > > > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for the > > military. It > > > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is opposite transit > > L8 > > > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > > > > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine officers, including > > up to > > > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in the aftermath > > of > > > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, AP reports > > citing > > > > senior defense officials. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear thor... > > > > > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- -- > -- > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary J. Steven > > Griles > > > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a Senate > > > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest-ranking Bush > > > > administration official convicted in the Jack Abramoff > corruption > > > scandal. > > > > > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior Department admitted > in > > > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his relationship > > with > > > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought Griles' > > > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's Indian tribal > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for testifying > falsely > > > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on November 2, 2005, > > and > > > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's investigators on > > October > > > > 20, 2005. > > > > > > > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the > > responsibility for > > > > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles said in a > > > > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, they must be > > > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place to decide > > > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. I > apologize > > to > > > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > cosmologer > > > > > SAMVA > > > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal Sun in the > > > SAMVA USA > > > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of obstacles being > > > thrown in > > > > > the way of President Bush. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to require > > President > > > Bush > > > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall 2008, despite > > a White > > > > > House veto threat. > > > > > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted Friday to > > order > > > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from Iraq next > > year, a > > > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers struggle and > > Congress' > > > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's policy. > > > > > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers voted 218- 212, > > mostly > > > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill requiring that > > combat > > > > > operations cease before September 2008, or earlier if the > > Iraqi > > > > > government does not meet certain requirements. Democrats > said > > it was > > > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep last > > November, > > > which > > > > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > > > > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the president's > > conduct of > > > > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. " The > > American > > > > > people see the reality of the war, the president does not. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush warned > Democrats > > > > Tuesday to > > > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify about the > > firings of > > > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath or > > risk a > > > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not back down. > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and firm: > They > > > > said they > > > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as Wednesday for > > the > > > White > > > > > > House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under oath. That's > > the > > > > formula > > > > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, chairman of > > the > > > Senate > > > > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White House, > > said, > > > > " We will > > > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at > > honorable > > > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a reasonable way to > > avoid an > > > > > > impasse. " > > > > > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him and it is > > > natural to > > > > > > consider replacing them. " There is no indication that > > anybody did > > > > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto > Gonzales, > > a > > > boost > > > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day with a > public > > > > statement > > > > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush said. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of his > > authority to > > > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate confirmation. > > > Democrats > > > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House purged > eight > > > federal > > > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading political > corruption > > > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act gave > > > Gonzales the > > > > > > new authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls Hillary > > Rodham > > > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, have > > > called for > > > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful of > > Republican > > > > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal really through > > > > intimidation > > > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " said Sen. > > Sheldon > > > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who spent much > of > > > Monday > > > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released by the > > Justice > > > > > Department. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, told > > lawmakers > > > > they > > > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, former > > White > > > House > > > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but only on the > > > president's > > > > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an oath " and > > without a > > > > > > transcript. > > > > > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually unprecedented > and > > a > > > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the information it > > needs > > > > about > > > > > > the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and find > > the right > > > > > > information, they ought to accept what I proposed, " Bush > > said. " If > > > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then the rejection > > of this > > > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for the > American > > > > people to > > > > > > see. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court any attempt > > to > > > > subpoena > > > > > > White House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in constant fear of > > being > > > > hauled > > > > > > before various committees to discuss internal > > deliberations, the > > > > > > president would not receive candid advice and the American > > people > > > > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the situation > has > > > > gotten to > > > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., for you. You > > know > > > > there's > > > > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate probe into > the > > > > firings, > > > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White House: > > > > > > > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to them, > > but not > > > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of what > > really > > > > happened > > > > > > here. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally required > to > > > tell the > > > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their > > comments, " it > > > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they would be > under > > some > > > > kind > > > > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours after > > Bush > > > spoke > > > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call-their first > > > > conversation > > > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his > > longtime > > > friend > > > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for Gonzales' > > ouster. > > > > > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews with Rove, > > Miers, > > > > deputy > > > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott Jennings, > a > > > > deputy to > > > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who works for > > Rove. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted without > the > > > need for > > > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the > subsequent > > > issuance > > > > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the Senate and > > House > > > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans. > > > > > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice Department " do > not > > > reflect > > > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere with a > > pending or > > > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other improper > > reason. " > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven contributed to this > > repo > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another health > incident > > > today. > > > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because of the > scandal > > > > involving > > > > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General this morning > to > > > > confirm his > > > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for him to resign > > or be > > > > > removed. > > > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee has > > insisted > > > > that > > > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the President, testify > > under > > > oath > > > > > > > before the committee about his role in the firings of > > eight US > > > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to have him > > > > interviewed but > > > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US Presidency are > > > > consistent with > > > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 Sun and > H2, > > as > > > > well as > > > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 Sun and > > transit > > > > L10 Mars, > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in leg with > clot > > > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment after > > discomfort > > > > in leg > > > > > > > with blood clot > > > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with clot > > discovered in > > > > > February > > > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after treatment > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney went to > > George > > > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday morning after > > > experiencing > > > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a blood clot was > > > > discovered a > > > > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was asked to > > return > > > > to the > > > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the deep > venous > > > > thrombosis, > > > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan McGinn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or complication of > > the > > > > clot, " > > > > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was found to be > > > > therapeutic. > > > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, and the > current > > > > course of > > > > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume his normal > > > > schedule, she > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a blood clot > > in > > > > the vice > > > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that he likely > > would > > > > have to be > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for several > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time that the > > > > 66-year-old had > > > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after feeling > minor > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood clot -- > > called a > > > deep > > > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can become > killers > > if > > > they > > > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is called a > > pulmonary > > > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an estimated 2 > > million > > > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after spending long > > periods > > > > without > > > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul airline flights. > > > > Cheney had > > > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a nine-day, > > > > round-the-world > > > > > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related problems over > > the > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in 2005 to > repair > > a > > > > kind of > > > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery that can > > burst > > > > if left > > > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, quadruple > bypass > > > > surgery, > > > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an operation to > > implant a > > > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the Vice > > President, the > > > > > perjury > > > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the resignation of the > > > > Secretary of > > > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems facing the > > US > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated > > congressional > > > > > hearings on > > > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim they were > > > fired for > > > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat by several > > US > > > > military > > > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that were > not > > > > enough, in > > > > > > > > the background to these more recent developments is > the > > > ongoing > > > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian > > > casulaties. The > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US Presidency > > all at > > > > > once are > > > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions involving > > both the > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > <cosmologer@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice President Dick > > Cheney > > > > > had been > > > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after > returning > > > from a > > > > > > > > grueling > > > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health setback raises > > > > questions about > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job but also > his > > > > fitness to > > > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President Bush for > some > > > > reason is > > > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice > President > > Dick > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political scandal. Many > > see the > > > > > aide as > > > > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice > > President. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent with the > > > transit and > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood clot in > his > > leg > > > > and is > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, his office > > has said. > > > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower left leg on > > Monday > > > > morning > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work after the > > > examination. > > > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning medication > for > > > > several > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac problems. He > > has > > > > suffered > > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in 2001 > > > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - are > > often > > > > associated > > > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the reduced air > > > > pressure and > > > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of inactivity > and > > > > dehydration > > > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves are not > > > > > life-threatening > > > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in the > > lungs or > > > > other > > > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak case > > > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, a > > former top > > > > aide to > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on Tuesday > > of four > > > > > counts > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an > > > investigation > > > > > tied > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly said > he > > would > > > > > seek a > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to the > FBI > > in > > > > the probe > > > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA analyst > > in > > > > 2003. He > > > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense attorney > > Theodore > > > > Wells > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would appeal the > > > > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Dear list members, The following six news headlines on DrudgeReport.com today about the policy debate in the USA over the war in Iraq give a fascinating overview of the current political situation. Democrats Escalate Iraq War Debate... Reid May Move to Cut Funds... CHENEY: MILITARY ANSWERS TO ONE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF... House Republicans Have Votes To Sustain Veto... Hillary Challenges Veto Threat... Bush Rips Dems Over War Funding... These news headlines show clearly what an epic power struggle has developed between the Democratically controlled Congress (Legislative branch of government) and the Republican controlled White House (Executive branch of government). The problems for President Bush are indeed significant at this time. These problems are clearly reflected in the SAMVA USA chart, with transit L8 Saturn having reached 24° 24' Cancer H1 in opposition to natal L2 Sun at 23° 45' Capricorn. Saturn will become stationary at 24° 11' Cancer in the third week of April, In terms of this aspect, the greatest strain for the indications of the Sun should be felt. As mentioned in other posts there are numerous other aspects to consider, not least the stationary nodes impact on the house MEPs and natal L4 Venus in H6 and the impact of transit L6 Jupiter in H5 on transit L8 Saturn in H1. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Two news items have appeared this weekend signalling difficulty for > President Bush, also related to 4th house matters. One has to do with > emission of greenhouse gasses. The other story has to do with > regulations concerning logging in wildlife areas. Bush had proposed > more freedom, but the judge insisted that environmental > considerations be brought into the picture, reversing the regulation. > Such stories show the impact of the present transits in the SAMVA USA > chart with regard to L2 Sun and L4 Venus. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Split court rules against Bush on greenhouse gases > POSTED: 10:50 a.m. EDT, April 2, 2007 > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ordered the federal government > on Monday to take a fresh look at regulating carbon dioxide emissions > from cars, a rebuke to Bush administration policy on global warming. > > In a 5-4 decision, the court said the Clean Air Act gives the > Environmental Protection Agency the authority to regulate the > emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from cars. > > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/02/scotus.greenhousegas.ap/index.html > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear , > > > > Thank you for the additional clarification. > > > > Indeed, there is an unusual amount of adverse transit impacts > active > > at present in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by you and > > take part in > > > making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting situations > > and > > > obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at the > highest > > level in > > > US. I was partially looking into the aspect of conflicts. > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > <SAMVA > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > Thank you for the additional insights. > > > > > > For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit nodes on > H2 > > > MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in turn its > > > affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to explain these > > > events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on natal L2 > > > Sun? > > > > > > If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8 Saturn on > > > natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the indications of > > > the Sun? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts and the > > > close > > > > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu axis are > > > showing the > > > > impact of current affliction in the chart in a pronounced > manner. > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The Democratically > > > > controlled Congress since last November has begun to show its > > teeth > > > > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the > President, > > > and > > > > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has been > passed > > > > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. > > > > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared the US > > should > > > > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President now has > only > > > one > > > > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in both > > chambers > > > > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a development > is > > > > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even further, > > > > adding to the problems. > > > > > > > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and period > > > dynmamics > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn in H1 > now > > > > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart Saturn rules > > > > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader of the > > > > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such affliction. > > > Moreover, > > > > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of the 'executive' and > > the > > > > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up in this > > > > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In coming > days > > it > > > > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the conditions. > > > > > > > > This and other political developments show clearly that the > > > prediction > > > > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the Spring > > > months > > > > is being realised. The chart also suggests the intensity of the > > > > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate in the > > second > > > > half of May. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote > > > > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 > > > > Story Highlights > > > > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto > > > > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from funding bill > > > > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes failure in > > Iraq > > > > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, sets > March > > > 2008 > > > > deadline > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the Democratic-led > > > Senate > > > > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for U.S. > > > withdrawal > > > > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, Tuesday. > > > > > > > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds majority > > needed > > > > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a sign of > > growing > > > > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. > > > > > > > > " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of the > House > > > and > > > > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American people, " > said > > > Sen. > > > > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be heeded > by > > > the > > > > president and by the government of Iraq. " > > > > > > > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin withdrawing > > from > > > > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next March. A > > > > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on training > Iraqi > > > > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. > > > > > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, said that > > > > effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. > > > > > > > > " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo to our > > enemies > > > > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the day we > > leave, " > > > he > > > > said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we plan to > > walk > > > > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we leave > > > behind. " > > > > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) > > > > > > > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 billion > already > > > > approved for this year and would drive the price tag for the > > > > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. The > Pentagon > > > > says it would have to start diverting funds from other programs > to > > > > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. > > > > > > > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives with an > > August > > > > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any bill > that > > > > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he considers > > > extraneous > > > > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure > > as " political > > > > theater. " > > > > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that threat > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in the > field, > > > this > > > > bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This and other > > > > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at grave > > risk, > > > > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's plans to > > > > develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. commander > outline > > > his > > > > concerns Video) > > > > > > > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority fell short > of > > > > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. > Republicans > > had > > > > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous statements of > > > > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would not use > > that > > > > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this case > because > > > > " it's important to get the money to the troops. " > > > > > > > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call for a > > pullout > > > is > > > > a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy mistake of our > > > time " > > > > to an end. > > > > > > > > " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it is their > > > > country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. > > > > > > > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White House > > hustling > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a possible > > tie. > > > > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid acknowledged, " We > don't > > > > know how it's going to turn out. " > > > > > > > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Gordon > Smith > > of > > > > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP-backed > > amendment. > > > > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) > > > > > > > > " The American people are demanding that we develop a bipartisan > > > > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit strategy from > > Iraq, " > > > > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential candidate. " If we > > > fail > > > > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, America > > will > > > > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will have > > difficulty > > > > recovering from in the years ahead. " > > > > > > > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined Connecticut > > independent > > > > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. And > Virginia > > > > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan to send > > > 30,000 > > > > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on Tuesday's > > vote, > > > > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the bugle of > > > retreat. " > > > > > > > > " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in Iraq that > > > > coalition forces have begun to take the first step backwards, " > > said > > > > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services > > > Committee. " We > > > > cannot take that step -- not at this time. " > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear David and list members, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the US > > Presidency > > > is > > > > > clearly above normal levels these days. > > > > > > > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for the > > > military. It > > > > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is opposite > transit > > > L8 > > > > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > > > > > > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine officers, > including > > > up to > > > > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in the > aftermath > > > of > > > > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, AP reports > > > citing > > > > > senior defense officials. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear thor... > > > > > > > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------- -- > -- > > -- > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary J. > Steven > > > Griles > > > > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a Senate > > > > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest-ranking Bush > > > > > administration official convicted in the Jack Abramoff > > corruption > > > > scandal. > > > > > > > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior Department > admitted > > in > > > > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his > relationship > > > with > > > > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought Griles' > > > > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's Indian > tribal > > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for testifying > > falsely > > > > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on November 2, > 2005, > > > and > > > > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's investigators on > > > October > > > > > 20, 2005. > > > > > > > > > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the > > > responsibility for > > > > > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles said in a > > > > > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, they must > be > > > > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place to > decide > > > > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. I > > apologize > > > to > > > > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > cosmologer > > > > > > SAMVA > > > > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal Sun in > the > > > > SAMVA USA > > > > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of obstacles > being > > > > thrown in > > > > > > the way of President Bush. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to require > > > President > > > > Bush > > > > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall 2008, > despite > > > a White > > > > > > House veto threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > > > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > > > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > > > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted Friday to > > > order > > > > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from Iraq next > > > year, a > > > > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers struggle and > > > Congress' > > > > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's policy. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers voted 218- > 212, > > > mostly > > > > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill requiring that > > > combat > > > > > > operations cease before September 2008, or earlier if the > > > Iraqi > > > > > > government does not meet certain requirements. Democrats > > said > > > it was > > > > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep last > > > November, > > > > which > > > > > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the president's > > > conduct of > > > > > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D- Calif. " The > > > American > > > > > > people see the reality of the war, the president does > not. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush warned > > Democrats > > > > > Tuesday to > > > > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify about the > > > firings of > > > > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath or > > > risk a > > > > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not back > down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and firm: > > They > > > > > said they > > > > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as Wednesday > for > > > the > > > > White > > > > > > > House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under oath. > That's > > > the > > > > > formula > > > > > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, chairman > of > > > the > > > > Senate > > > > > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White House, > > > said, > > > > > " We will > > > > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at > > > honorable > > > > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a reasonable way to > > > avoid an > > > > > > > impasse. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him and it is > > > > natural to > > > > > > > consider replacing them. " There is no indication that > > > anybody did > > > > > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto > > Gonzales, > > > a > > > > boost > > > > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day with a > > public > > > > > statement > > > > > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of his > > > authority to > > > > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate > confirmation. > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House purged > > eight > > > > federal > > > > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading political > > corruption > > > > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act gave > > > > Gonzales the > > > > > > > new authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls > Hillary > > > Rodham > > > > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, have > > > > called for > > > > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful of > > > Republican > > > > > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal really > through > > > > > intimidation > > > > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " said Sen. > > > Sheldon > > > > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who spent > much > > of > > > > Monday > > > > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released by the > > > Justice > > > > > > Department. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, told > > > lawmakers > > > > > they > > > > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, former > > > White > > > > House > > > > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but only on the > > > > president's > > > > > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an oath " and > > > without a > > > > > > > transcript. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually unprecedented > > and > > > a > > > > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the information > it > > > needs > > > > > about > > > > > > > the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and find > > > the right > > > > > > > information, they ought to accept what I proposed, " Bush > > > said. " If > > > > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then the > rejection > > > of this > > > > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for the > > American > > > > > people to > > > > > > > see. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court any > attempt > > > to > > > > > subpoena > > > > > > > White House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in constant fear > of > > > being > > > > > hauled > > > > > > > before various committees to discuss internal > > > deliberations, the > > > > > > > president would not receive candid advice and the > American > > > people > > > > > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the situation > > has > > > > > gotten to > > > > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., for you. > You > > > know > > > > > there's > > > > > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate probe > into > > the > > > > > firings, > > > > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White > House: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to them, > > > but not > > > > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of what > > > really > > > > > happened > > > > > > > here. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally > required > > to > > > > tell the > > > > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their > > > comments, " it > > > > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they would be > > under > > > some > > > > > kind > > > > > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours > after > > > Bush > > > > spoke > > > > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call-their first > > > > > conversation > > > > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his > > > longtime > > > > friend > > > > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for Gonzales' > > > ouster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews with Rove, > > > Miers, > > > > > deputy > > > > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott > Jennings, > > a > > > > > deputy to > > > > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who works > for > > > Rove. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted without > > the > > > > need for > > > > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the > > subsequent > > > > issuance > > > > > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the Senate > and > > > House > > > > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice > Department " do > > not > > > > reflect > > > > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere with a > > > pending or > > > > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other improper > > > reason. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven contributed to > this > > > repo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another health > > incident > > > > today. > > > > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because of the > > scandal > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General this > morning > > to > > > > > confirm his > > > > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for him to > resign > > > or be > > > > > > removed. > > > > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee has > > > insisted > > > > > that > > > > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the President, testify > > > under > > > > oath > > > > > > > > before the committee about his role in the firings of > > > eight US > > > > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to have him > > > > > interviewed but > > > > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US Presidency are > > > > > consistent with > > > > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 Sun and > > H2, > > > as > > > > > well as > > > > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 Sun and > > > transit > > > > > L10 Mars, > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in leg with > > clot > > > > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment after > > > discomfort > > > > > in leg > > > > > > > > with blood clot > > > > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with clot > > > discovered in > > > > > > February > > > > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after treatment > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney went to > > > George > > > > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday morning after > > > > experiencing > > > > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a blood clot > was > > > > > discovered a > > > > > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was asked to > > > return > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the deep > > venous > > > > > thrombosis, > > > > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan McGinn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or complication > of > > > the > > > > > clot, " > > > > > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was found to > be > > > > > therapeutic. > > > > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, and the > > current > > > > > course of > > > > > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume his > normal > > > > > schedule, she > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a blood > clot > > > in > > > > > the vice > > > > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that he likely > > > would > > > > > have to be > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for several > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time that the > > > > > 66-year-old had > > > > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after feeling > > minor > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood clot -- > > > called a > > > > deep > > > > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can become > > killers > > > if > > > > they > > > > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is called a > > > pulmonary > > > > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an estimated 2 > > > million > > > > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after spending long > > > periods > > > > > without > > > > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul airline > flights. > > > > > Cheney had > > > > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a nine-day, > > > > > round-the-world > > > > > > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related problems > over > > > the > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in 2005 to > > repair > > > a > > > > > kind of > > > > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery that can > > > burst > > > > > if left > > > > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, quadruple > > bypass > > > > > surgery, > > > > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an operation to > > > implant a > > > > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > <cosmologer@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the Vice > > > President, the > > > > > > perjury > > > > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the resignation of > the > > > > > Secretary of > > > > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems facing > the > > > US > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated > > > congressional > > > > > > hearings on > > > > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim they > were > > > > fired for > > > > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat by > several > > > US > > > > > military > > > > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that > were > > not > > > > > enough, in > > > > > > > > > the background to these more recent developments is > > the > > > > ongoing > > > > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian > > > > casulaties. The > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US > Presidency > > > all at > > > > > > once are > > > > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions > involving > > > both the > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > <cosmologer@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice President > Dick > > > Cheney > > > > > > had been > > > > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after > > returning > > > > from a > > > > > > > > > grueling > > > > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health setback raises > > > > > questions about > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job but > also > > his > > > > > fitness to > > > > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President Bush for > > some > > > > > reason is > > > > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice > > President > > > Dick > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political scandal. > Many > > > see the > > > > > > aide as > > > > > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice > > > President. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent with the > > > > transit and > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood clot in > > his > > > leg > > > > > and is > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, his office > > > has said. > > > > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower left leg on > > > Monday > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work after the > > > > examination. > > > > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning > medication > > for > > > > > several > > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac problems. > He > > > has > > > > > suffered > > > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in 2001 > > > > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - are > > > often > > > > > associated > > > > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the reduced > air > > > > > pressure and > > > > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of inactivity > > and > > > > > dehydration > > > > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves are > not > > > > > > life-threatening > > > > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in the > > > lungs or > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak case > > > > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, a > > > former top > > > > > aide to > > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on > Tuesday > > > of four > > > > > > counts > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an > > > > investigation > > > > > > tied > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly > said > > he > > > would > > > > > > seek a > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to the > > FBI > > > in > > > > > the probe > > > > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA > analyst > > > in > > > > > 2003. He > > > > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense attorney > > > Theodore > > > > > Wells > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would appeal > the > > > > > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Dear list members, The problems facing the US Presidency are still numerous, and don´t seem to be fading away: - The death toll of US troops in Iraq keeps on mounting. - The head of the Justice Department, Gonzales, who has been strongly backed by President Bush, in his recent problems over the firings of justices, is again in hot water. Emails now show that he suggested replacing the justices one year before they were let go. This brings the matter right to his doorstep. If he is forced to step down that would be a setback for the President. - Another close associate of President Bush, Wolfowitz, head of the World Bank, is now in hot water over the pay raise he arranged for his girlfriend. While the scandal is not as big as some others it is being seized upon to try to get rid of this appointy of President Bush. Many countries were upset when a symbol of US arrogance and unilateral actions of the US in the world was appointed to this body and would like to get rid of him. If they succeed it would be a setback for President Bush. - a story is now in the news that 5 million emails in the White House are missing. The loss of emails came to light when an inquiry was launched into allegations that Karl Rove, the chief political advisor to the President, had used offical email for political purposes, which is banned by law. If the allegations are proven, it would be another setback for the President. In other words, there are continuing problems for President Bush, which is not surprising in view of the transits in the SAMVA USA chart, notably the aspect of transit L8 Saturn to natal L2 Sun. The afflictions involving transit L6 Jupiter and L8 Saturn are making this aspect more difficult. In general, the difficult aspects will only become more difficult in the coming four weeks or so. One helpful transit is that L2 Sun has now entered the sign Aries (and H10) where it is exalted. While that would ordinarily be likely to help the US President, L10 Mars is now in H8 and about to become conjunct transit Rahu. This would undermine the strength of the Sun in H10. Hence, the transit of the Sun may actually only add to the difficulty of problems facing President Bush in the coming week or two. We will see how things turn out. Best wishes, Thor White House: Millions of e-mails may be missing POSTED: 7:07 p.m. EDT, April 13, 2007 Story Highlights• NEW: White House spokeswoman says 5 million official e-mails may be missing • White House admits it should have kept e-mails on private GOP system • Chairman of Senate Judiciary Committee doubts e-mails are deleted • Committee investigating whether U.S. attorneys' firings were politically motivated WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Millions of White House e-mails may be missing, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino acknowledged Friday. " I wouldn't rule out that there were a potential 5 million e-mails lost, " Perino told reporters. The administration was already facing sharp questions about whether top presidential advisers including Karl Rove improperly used Republican National Committee e-mail that the White House said later disappeared. SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear list members, > > The following six news headlines on DrudgeReport.com today about the > policy debate in the USA over the war in Iraq give a fascinating > overview of the current political situation. > > Democrats Escalate Iraq War Debate... > Reid May Move to Cut Funds... > CHENEY: MILITARY ANSWERS TO ONE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF... > House Republicans Have Votes To Sustain Veto... > Hillary Challenges Veto Threat... > Bush Rips Dems Over War Funding... > > These news headlines show clearly what an epic power struggle has > developed between the Democratically controlled Congress (Legislative > branch of government) and the Republican controlled White House > (Executive branch of government). The problems for President Bush are > indeed significant at this time. > > These problems are clearly reflected in the SAMVA USA chart, with > transit L8 Saturn having reached 24° 24' Cancer H1 in opposition to > natal L2 Sun at 23° 45' Capricorn. Saturn will become stationary at > 24° 11' Cancer in the third week of April, In terms of this aspect, > the greatest strain for the indications of the Sun should be felt. > > As mentioned in other posts there are numerous other aspects to > consider, not least the stationary nodes impact on the house MEPs and > natal L4 Venus in H6 and the impact of transit L6 Jupiter in H5 on > transit L8 Saturn in H1. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Two news items have appeared this weekend signalling difficulty for > > President Bush, also related to 4th house matters. One has to do > with > > emission of greenhouse gasses. The other story has to do with > > regulations concerning logging in wildlife areas. Bush had proposed > > more freedom, but the judge insisted that environmental > > considerations be brought into the picture, reversing the > regulation. > > Such stories show the impact of the present transits in the SAMVA > USA > > chart with regard to L2 Sun and L4 Venus. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > Split court rules against Bush on greenhouse gases > > POSTED: 10:50 a.m. EDT, April 2, 2007 > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ordered the federal government > > on Monday to take a fresh look at regulating carbon dioxide > emissions > > from cars, a rebuke to Bush administration policy on global warming. > > > > In a 5-4 decision, the court said the Clean Air Act gives the > > Environmental Protection Agency the authority to regulate the > > emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from cars. > > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/02/scotus.greenhousegas.ap/index.html > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > Thank you for the additional clarification. > > > > > > Indeed, there is an unusual amount of adverse transit impacts > > active > > > at present in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by you and > > > take part in > > > > making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting > situations > > > and > > > > obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at the > > highest > > > level in > > > > US. I was partially looking into the aspect of conflicts. > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional insights. > > > > > > > > For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit nodes > on > > H2 > > > > MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in turn its > > > > affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to explain these > > > > events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on natal > L2 > > > > Sun? > > > > > > > > If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8 Saturn on > > > > natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the indications > of > > > > the Sun? > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts and the > > > > close > > > > > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu axis > are > > > > showing the > > > > > impact of current affliction in the chart in a pronounced > > manner. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The Democratically > > > > > controlled Congress since last November has begun to show its > > > teeth > > > > > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the > > President, > > > > and > > > > > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has been > > passed > > > > > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. > > > > > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared the US > > > should > > > > > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President now has > > only > > > > one > > > > > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in both > > > chambers > > > > > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a > development > > is > > > > > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even > further, > > > > > adding to the problems. > > > > > > > > > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and period > > > > dynmamics > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn in H1 > > now > > > > > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart Saturn > rules > > > > > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader of the > > > > > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such affliction. > > > > Moreover, > > > > > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of the 'executive' > and > > > the > > > > > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up in > this > > > > > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In coming > > days > > > it > > > > > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the conditions. > > > > > > > > > > This and other political developments show clearly that the > > > > prediction > > > > > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the Spring > > > > months > > > > > is being realised. The chart also suggests the intensity of > the > > > > > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate in the > > > second > > > > > half of May. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote > > > > > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto > > > > > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from funding bill > > > > > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes failure > in > > > Iraq > > > > > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, sets > > March > > > > 2008 > > > > > deadline > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the Democratic- led > > > > Senate > > > > > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for U.S. > > > > withdrawal > > > > > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds majority > > > needed > > > > > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a sign of > > > growing > > > > > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. > > > > > > > > > > " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of the > > House > > > > and > > > > > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American people, " > > said > > > > Sen. > > > > > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be > heeded > > by > > > > the > > > > > president and by the government of Iraq. " > > > > > > > > > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin > withdrawing > > > from > > > > > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next March. > A > > > > > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on training > > Iraqi > > > > > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. > > > > > > > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, said that > > > > > effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. > > > > > > > > > > " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo to our > > > enemies > > > > > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the day we > > > leave, " > > > > he > > > > > said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we plan > to > > > walk > > > > > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we leave > > > > behind. " > > > > > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) > > > > > > > > > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 billion > > already > > > > > approved for this year and would drive the price tag for the > > > > > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. The > > Pentagon > > > > > says it would have to start diverting funds from other > programs > > to > > > > > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. > > > > > > > > > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives with an > > > August > > > > > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any bill > > that > > > > > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he considers > > > > extraneous > > > > > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure > > > as " political > > > > > theater. " > > > > > > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that threat > > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in the > > field, > > > > this > > > > > bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This and > other > > > > > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at grave > > > risk, > > > > > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's plans > to > > > > > develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. commander > > outline > > > > his > > > > > concerns Video) > > > > > > > > > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority fell > short > > of > > > > > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. > > Republicans > > > had > > > > > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous statements of > > > > > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would not > use > > > that > > > > > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this case > > because > > > > > " it's important to get the money to the troops. " > > > > > > > > > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call for a > > > pullout > > > > is > > > > > a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy mistake of > our > > > > time " > > > > > to an end. > > > > > > > > > > " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it is > their > > > > > country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. > > > > > > > > > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White House > > > hustling > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a > possible > > > tie. > > > > > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid acknowledged, " We > > don't > > > > > know how it's going to turn out. " > > > > > > > > > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Gordon > > Smith > > > of > > > > > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP-backed > > > amendment. > > > > > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) > > > > > > > > > > " The American people are demanding that we develop a > bipartisan > > > > > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit strategy from > > > Iraq, " > > > > > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential candidate. " If > we > > > > fail > > > > > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, > America > > > will > > > > > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will have > > > difficulty > > > > > recovering from in the years ahead. " > > > > > > > > > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined Connecticut > > > independent > > > > > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. And > > Virginia > > > > > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan to > send > > > > 30,000 > > > > > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on > Tuesday's > > > vote, > > > > > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the bugle of > > > > retreat. " > > > > > > > > > > " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in Iraq > that > > > > > coalition forces have begun to take the first step > backwards, " > > > said > > > > > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services > > > > Committee. " We > > > > > cannot take that step -- not at this time. " > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear David and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the US > > > Presidency > > > > is > > > > > > clearly above normal levels these days. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for the > > > > military. It > > > > > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is opposite > > transit > > > > L8 > > > > > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > > > > > > > > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine officers, > > including > > > > up to > > > > > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in the > > aftermath > > > > of > > > > > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, AP > reports > > > > citing > > > > > > senior defense officials. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear thor... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- -- > -- > > -- > > > -- > > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary J. > > Steven > > > > Griles > > > > > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a Senate > > > > > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest-ranking Bush > > > > > > administration official convicted in the Jack Abramoff > > > corruption > > > > > scandal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior Department > > admitted > > > in > > > > > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his > > relationship > > > > with > > > > > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought Griles' > > > > > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's Indian > > tribal > > > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for testifying > > > falsely > > > > > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on November 2, > > 2005, > > > > and > > > > > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's investigators > on > > > > October > > > > > > 20, 2005. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the > > > > responsibility for > > > > > > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles said > in a > > > > > > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, they > must > > be > > > > > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place to > > decide > > > > > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. I > > > apologize > > > > to > > > > > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > cosmologer > > > > > > > SAMVA > > > > > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal Sun in > > the > > > > > SAMVA USA > > > > > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of obstacles > > being > > > > > thrown in > > > > > > > the way of President Bush. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > > > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to require > > > > President > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall 2008, > > despite > > > > a White > > > > > > > House veto threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > > > > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > > > > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > > > > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted Friday > to > > > > order > > > > > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from Iraq > next > > > > year, a > > > > > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers struggle and > > > > Congress' > > > > > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's policy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers voted 218- > > 212, > > > > mostly > > > > > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill requiring > that > > > > combat > > > > > > > operations cease before September 2008, or earlier if > the > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > government does not meet certain requirements. > Democrats > > > said > > > > it was > > > > > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep last > > > > November, > > > > > which > > > > > > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the president's > > > > conduct of > > > > > > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D- > Calif. " The > > > > American > > > > > > > people see the reality of the war, the president does > > not. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > > > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush warned > > > Democrats > > > > > > Tuesday to > > > > > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify about the > > > > firings of > > > > > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath > or > > > > risk a > > > > > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not back > > down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and > firm: > > > They > > > > > > said they > > > > > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as > Wednesday > > for > > > > the > > > > > White > > > > > > > > House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under oath. > > That's > > > > the > > > > > > formula > > > > > > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, > chairman > > of > > > > the > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White > House, > > > > said, > > > > > > " We will > > > > > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed > at > > > > honorable > > > > > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a reasonable way > to > > > > avoid an > > > > > > > > impasse. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him and it > is > > > > > natural to > > > > > > > > consider replacing them. " There is no indication that > > > > anybody did > > > > > > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto > > > Gonzales, > > > > a > > > > > boost > > > > > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day with a > > > public > > > > > > statement > > > > > > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of his > > > > authority to > > > > > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate > > confirmation. > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House purged > > > eight > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading political > > > corruption > > > > > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act gave > > > > > Gonzales the > > > > > > > > new authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls > > Hillary > > > > Rodham > > > > > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, > have > > > > > called for > > > > > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful of > > > > Republican > > > > > > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal really > > through > > > > > > intimidation > > > > > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " said > Sen. > > > > Sheldon > > > > > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who spent > > much > > > of > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released by the > > > > Justice > > > > > > > Department. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, told > > > > lawmakers > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, > former > > > > White > > > > > House > > > > > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but only on > the > > > > > president's > > > > > > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an oath " and > > > > without a > > > > > > > > transcript. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually > unprecedented > > > and > > > > a > > > > > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the > information > > it > > > > needs > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and > find > > > > the right > > > > > > > > information, they ought to accept what I proposed, " > Bush > > > > said. " If > > > > > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then the > > rejection > > > > of this > > > > > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for the > > > American > > > > > > people to > > > > > > > > see. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court any > > attempt > > > > to > > > > > > subpoena > > > > > > > > White House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in constant > fear > > of > > > > being > > > > > > hauled > > > > > > > > before various committees to discuss internal > > > > deliberations, the > > > > > > > > president would not receive candid advice and the > > American > > > > people > > > > > > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the > situation > > > has > > > > > > gotten to > > > > > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., for you. > > You > > > > know > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate probe > > into > > > the > > > > > > firings, > > > > > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White > > House: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to > them, > > > > but not > > > > > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of what > > > > really > > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > here. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally > > required > > > to > > > > > tell the > > > > > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their > > > > comments, " it > > > > > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they would be > > > under > > > > some > > > > > > kind > > > > > > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours > > after > > > > Bush > > > > > spoke > > > > > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call-their > first > > > > > > conversation > > > > > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his > > > > longtime > > > > > friend > > > > > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for Gonzales' > > > > ouster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews with > Rove, > > > > Miers, > > > > > > deputy > > > > > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott > > Jennings, > > > a > > > > > > deputy to > > > > > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who works > > for > > > > Rove. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted > without > > > the > > > > > need for > > > > > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the > > > subsequent > > > > > issuance > > > > > > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the > Senate > > and > > > > House > > > > > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice > > Department " do > > > not > > > > > reflect > > > > > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere with > a > > > > pending or > > > > > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other > improper > > > > reason. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven contributed to > > this > > > > repo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > <cosmologer@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another health > > > incident > > > > > today. > > > > > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because of the > > > scandal > > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General this > > morning > > > to > > > > > > confirm his > > > > > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for him to > > resign > > > > or be > > > > > > > removed. > > > > > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee > has > > > > insisted > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the President, > testify > > > > under > > > > > oath > > > > > > > > > before the committee about his role in the firings > of > > > > eight US > > > > > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to have > him > > > > > > interviewed but > > > > > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US Presidency > are > > > > > > consistent with > > > > > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 Sun > and > > > H2, > > > > as > > > > > > well as > > > > > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 Sun and > > > > transit > > > > > > L10 Mars, > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in leg > with > > > clot > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment after > > > > discomfort > > > > > > in leg > > > > > > > > > with blood clot > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with clot > > > > discovered in > > > > > > > February > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after treatment > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney went > to > > > > George > > > > > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday morning after > > > > > experiencing > > > > > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a blood > clot > > was > > > > > > discovered a > > > > > > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was asked > to > > > > return > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the deep > > > venous > > > > > > thrombosis, > > > > > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan McGinn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or > complication > > of > > > > the > > > > > > clot, " > > > > > > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was found > to > > be > > > > > > therapeutic. > > > > > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, and the > > > current > > > > > > course of > > > > > > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume his > > normal > > > > > > schedule, she > > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a blood > > clot > > > > in > > > > > > the vice > > > > > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that he > likely > > > > would > > > > > > have to be > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for several > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time that > the > > > > > > 66-year-old had > > > > > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after > feeling > > > minor > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood clot - - > > > > called a > > > > > deep > > > > > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can become > > > killers > > > > if > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is called a > > > > pulmonary > > > > > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an estimated > 2 > > > > million > > > > > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after spending long > > > > periods > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul airline > > flights. > > > > > > Cheney had > > > > > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a nine- day, > > > > > > round-the-world > > > > > > > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related problems > > over > > > > the > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in 2005 to > > > repair > > > > a > > > > > > kind of > > > > > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery that > can > > > > burst > > > > > > if left > > > > > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, quadruple > > > bypass > > > > > > surgery, > > > > > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an operation > to > > > > implant a > > > > > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > <cosmologer@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the Vice > > > > President, the > > > > > > > perjury > > > > > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the resignation > of > > the > > > > > > Secretary of > > > > > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems > facing > > the > > > > US > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated > > > > congressional > > > > > > > hearings on > > > > > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim they > > were > > > > > fired for > > > > > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat by > > several > > > > US > > > > > > military > > > > > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that > > were > > > not > > > > > > enough, in > > > > > > > > > > the background to these more recent developments > is > > > the > > > > > ongoing > > > > > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian > > > > > casulaties. The > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US > > Presidency > > > > all at > > > > > > > once are > > > > > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions > > involving > > > > both the > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice President > > Dick > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > had been > > > > > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after > > > returning > > > > > from a > > > > > > > > > > grueling > > > > > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health setback > raises > > > > > > questions about > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job but > > also > > > his > > > > > > fitness to > > > > > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President Bush > for > > > some > > > > > > reason is > > > > > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice > > > President > > > > Dick > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political scandal. > > Many > > > > see the > > > > > > > aide as > > > > > > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice > > > > President. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent with > the > > > > > transit and > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood clot > in > > > his > > > > leg > > > > > > and is > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, his > office > > > > has said. > > > > > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower left leg > on > > > > Monday > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work after the > > > > > examination. > > > > > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning > > medication > > > for > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac > problems. > > He > > > > has > > > > > > suffered > > > > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in > 2001 > > > > > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - > are > > > > often > > > > > > associated > > > > > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the > reduced > > air > > > > > > pressure and > > > > > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of > inactivity > > > and > > > > > > dehydration > > > > > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves are > > not > > > > > > > life-threatening > > > > > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in > the > > > > lungs or > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak case > > > > > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, a > > > > former top > > > > > > aide to > > > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on > > Tuesday > > > > of four > > > > > > > counts > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an > > > > > investigation > > > > > > > tied > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly > > said > > > he > > > > would > > > > > > > seek a > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to > the > > > FBI > > > > in > > > > > > the probe > > > > > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA > > analyst > > > > in > > > > > > 2003. He > > > > > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense > attorney > > > > Theodore > > > > > > Wells > > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would > appeal > > the > > > > > > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Dear list members, A relentless barrage of problems continues to land in the lap of President Bush. 1. A top ranking Democrat has publically announced that he directly told President Bush that the war in Iraq is lost " politically, militarily and economically " . 2. A senator has also demanded that the head of the Justice Department, Gonzales, resign. Earlier Gonzales personally apologised for the firings of the 8 US justices, thereby assuming responsibility for the fiasco. The problems should be even greater next week in light of the transits impacting the strength of transit and natal Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. We will soon see. Best wishes, Thor 1. Iraq war is 'lost': US Democrat leader Apr 19 02:45 PM US/Eastern The war in Iraq " is lost " and a US troop surge is failing to bring peace to the country, the leader of the Democratic majority in the US Congress, Harry Reid, said Thursday. " I believe ... that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week, " Reid told journalists. Reid said he had delivered the same message to US President George W. Bush on Wednesday, when the US president met with senior lawmakers to discuss how to end a standoff over an emergency war funding bill. " I know I was the odd guy out at the White House, but I told him at least what he needed to hear ... I believe the war at this stage can only be won diplomatically, politically and economically. " Congress is seeking to tie funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to a timetable to withdraw US troops from Iraq next year, but Bush has vowed to veto any such bill and no breakthrough was reported from the White House talks. Bush on Thursday was addressing an Ohio town hall meeting and defending the war on terror launched in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks. " It is the most solemn duty of our country, is to protect our country from harm, " Bush told the invited audience in Tipp, Ohio. " A lesson learned was that -- at least in my opinion -- that in order to protect us, we must aggressively pursue the enemy and defeat them elsewhere so that we do not have to face them here. " 2. Republican senator calls for Gonzales to quit POSTED: 4:14 p.m. EDT, April 19, 2007 Story Highlights • NEW: Republican Sen. Coburn urges Gonzales to resign • Gonzales: Alleging partisanship is an attack on career Justice Dept. employees • Gonzales says he'll resign if he can no longer be an effective leader • Sen. Arlen Specter questions attorney general on extent of involvement WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales confronted a fresh call for his resignation from a fellow Republican Thursday as he struggled to survive a bipartisan Senate challenge to his credibility in the case of eight fired prosecutors. Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom Coburn told Gonzales that the situation was handled incompetently and said there should be consequences. " The communication was atrocious. It was inconsistent -- it's generous to say that there was misstatements; it's a generous statement. And I believe you ought to suffer the consequences that these others have suffered, " Coburn said. " And I believe the best way to put this behind us is your resignation. " Coburn is the first Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee to call for Gonzales' resignation. SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear list members, > > The problems facing the US Presidency are still numerous, and don´t > seem to be fading away: > > - The death toll of US troops in Iraq keeps on mounting. > - The head of the Justice Department, Gonzales, who has been strongly > backed by President Bush, in his recent problems over the firings of > justices, is again in hot water. Emails now show that he suggested > replacing the justices one year before they were let go. This brings > the matter right to his doorstep. If he is forced to step down that > would be a setback for the President. > - Another close associate of President Bush, Wolfowitz, head of the > World Bank, is now in hot water over the pay raise he arranged for > his girlfriend. While the scandal is not as big as some others it is > being seized upon to try to get rid of this appointy of President > Bush. Many countries were upset when a symbol of US arrogance and > unilateral actions of the US in the world was appointed to this body > and would like to get rid of him. If they succeed it would be a > setback for President Bush. > - a story is now in the news that 5 million emails in the White House > are missing. The loss of emails came to light when an inquiry was > launched into allegations that Karl Rove, the chief political advisor > to the President, had used offical email for political purposes, > which is banned by law. If the allegations are proven, it would be > another setback for the President. > > In other words, there are continuing problems for President Bush, > which is not surprising in view of the transits in the SAMVA USA > chart, notably the aspect of transit L8 Saturn to natal L2 Sun. The > afflictions involving transit L6 Jupiter and L8 Saturn are making > this aspect more difficult. In general, the difficult aspects will > only become more difficult in the coming four weeks or so. One > helpful transit is that L2 Sun has now entered the sign Aries (and > H10) where it is exalted. While that would ordinarily be likely to > help the US President, L10 Mars is now in H8 and about to become > conjunct transit Rahu. This would undermine the strength of the Sun > in H10. Hence, the transit of the Sun may actually only add to the > difficulty of problems facing President Bush in the coming week or > two. We will see how things turn out. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > White House: Millions of e-mails may be missing > POSTED: 7:07 p.m. EDT, April 13, 2007 > Story Highlights• NEW: White House spokeswoman says 5 million > official e-mails may be missing > • White House admits it should have kept e-mails on private GOP system > • Chairman of Senate Judiciary Committee doubts e-mails are deleted > • Committee investigating whether U.S. attorneys' firings were > politically motivated > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Millions of White House e-mails may be missing, > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino acknowledged Friday. > > " I wouldn't rule out that there were a potential 5 million e-mails > lost, " Perino told reporters. > > The administration was already facing sharp questions about whether > top presidential advisers including Karl Rove improperly used > Republican National Committee e-mail that the White House said later > disappeared. > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear list members, > > > > The following six news headlines on DrudgeReport.com today about > the > > policy debate in the USA over the war in Iraq give a fascinating > > overview of the current political situation. > > > > Democrats Escalate Iraq War Debate... > > Reid May Move to Cut Funds... > > CHENEY: MILITARY ANSWERS TO ONE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF... > > House Republicans Have Votes To Sustain Veto... > > Hillary Challenges Veto Threat... > > Bush Rips Dems Over War Funding... > > > > These news headlines show clearly what an epic power struggle has > > developed between the Democratically controlled Congress > (Legislative > > branch of government) and the Republican controlled White House > > (Executive branch of government). The problems for President Bush > are > > indeed significant at this time. > > > > These problems are clearly reflected in the SAMVA USA chart, with > > transit L8 Saturn having reached 24° 24' Cancer H1 in opposition to > > natal L2 Sun at 23° 45' Capricorn. Saturn will become stationary > at > > 24° 11' Cancer in the third week of April, In terms of this aspect, > > the greatest strain for the indications of the Sun should be felt. > > > > As mentioned in other posts there are numerous other aspects to > > consider, not least the stationary nodes impact on the house MEPs > and > > natal L4 Venus in H6 and the impact of transit L6 Jupiter in H5 on > > transit L8 Saturn in H1. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Two news items have appeared this weekend signalling difficulty > for > > > President Bush, also related to 4th house matters. One has to do > > with > > > emission of greenhouse gasses. The other story has to do with > > > regulations concerning logging in wildlife areas. Bush had > proposed > > > more freedom, but the judge insisted that environmental > > > considerations be brought into the picture, reversing the > > regulation. > > > Such stories show the impact of the present transits in the SAMVA > > USA > > > chart with regard to L2 Sun and L4 Venus. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > Split court rules against Bush on greenhouse gases > > > POSTED: 10:50 a.m. EDT, April 2, 2007 > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ordered the federal > government > > > on Monday to take a fresh look at regulating carbon dioxide > > emissions > > > from cars, a rebuke to Bush administration policy on global > warming. > > > > > > In a 5-4 decision, the court said the Clean Air Act gives the > > > Environmental Protection Agency the authority to regulate the > > > emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from cars. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/02/scotus.greenhousegas.ap/index.html > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional clarification. > > > > > > > > Indeed, there is an unusual amount of adverse transit impacts > > > active > > > > at present in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by you > and > > > > take part in > > > > > making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting > > situations > > > > and > > > > > obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at the > > > highest > > > > level in > > > > > US. I was partially looking into the aspect of conflicts. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional insights. > > > > > > > > > > For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit > nodes > > on > > > H2 > > > > > MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in turn > its > > > > > affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to explain > these > > > > > events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on > natal > > L2 > > > > > Sun? > > > > > > > > > > If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8 Saturn > on > > > > > natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the > indications > > of > > > > > the Sun? > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts and > the > > > > > close > > > > > > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu axis > > are > > > > > showing the > > > > > > impact of current affliction in the chart in a pronounced > > > manner. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The > Democratically > > > > > > controlled Congress since last November has begun to show > its > > > > teeth > > > > > > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the > > > President, > > > > > and > > > > > > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has been > > > passed > > > > > > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from > Iraq. > > > > > > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared the > US > > > > should > > > > > > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President now > has > > > only > > > > > one > > > > > > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in both > > > > chambers > > > > > > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a > > development > > > is > > > > > > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even > > further, > > > > > > adding to the problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and period > > > > > dynmamics > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn in > H1 > > > now > > > > > > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart Saturn > > rules > > > > > > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader of > the > > > > > > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such affliction. > > > > > Moreover, > > > > > > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of the 'executive' > > and > > > > the > > > > > > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up in > > this > > > > > > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In coming > > > days > > > > it > > > > > > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the > conditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > This and other political developments show clearly that the > > > > > prediction > > > > > > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the > Spring > > > > > months > > > > > > is being realised. The chart also suggests the intensity of > > the > > > > > > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate in > the > > > > second > > > > > > half of May. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote > > > > > > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto > > > > > > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from funding > bill > > > > > > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes failure > > in > > > > Iraq > > > > > > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, sets > > > March > > > > > 2008 > > > > > > deadline > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the Democratic- > led > > > > > Senate > > > > > > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for U.S. > > > > > withdrawal > > > > > > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds > majority > > > > needed > > > > > > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a sign > of > > > > growing > > > > > > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of the > > > House > > > > > and > > > > > > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American > people, " > > > said > > > > > Sen. > > > > > > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be > > heeded > > > by > > > > > the > > > > > > president and by the government of Iraq. " > > > > > > > > > > > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin > > withdrawing > > > > from > > > > > > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next > March. > > A > > > > > > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on training > > > Iraqi > > > > > > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. > > > > > > > > > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, said > that > > > > > > effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo to > our > > > > enemies > > > > > > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the day we > > > > leave, " > > > > > he > > > > > > said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we > plan > > to > > > > walk > > > > > > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we > leave > > > > > behind. " > > > > > > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 billion > > > already > > > > > > approved for this year and would drive the price tag for the > > > > > > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. The > > > Pentagon > > > > > > says it would have to start diverting funds from other > > programs > > > to > > > > > > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. > > > > > > > > > > > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives with > an > > > > August > > > > > > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any > bill > > > that > > > > > > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he considers > > > > > extraneous > > > > > > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure > > > > as " political > > > > > > theater. " > > > > > > > > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that threat > > > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in the > > > field, > > > > > this > > > > > > bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This and > > other > > > > > > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at > grave > > > > risk, > > > > > > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's > plans > > to > > > > > > develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. commander > > > outline > > > > > his > > > > > > concerns Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority fell > > short > > > of > > > > > > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. > > > Republicans > > > > had > > > > > > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous statements > of > > > > > > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would not > > use > > > > that > > > > > > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this case > > > because > > > > > > " it's important to get the money to the troops. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call for a > > > > pullout > > > > > is > > > > > > a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy mistake of > > our > > > > > time " > > > > > > to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it is > > their > > > > > > country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White House > > > > hustling > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a > > possible > > > > tie. > > > > > > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid > acknowledged, " We > > > don't > > > > > > know how it's going to turn out. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Gordon > > > Smith > > > > of > > > > > > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP-backed > > > > amendment. > > > > > > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people are demanding that we develop a > > bipartisan > > > > > > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit strategy > from > > > > Iraq, " > > > > > > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential > candidate. " If > > we > > > > > fail > > > > > > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, > > America > > > > will > > > > > > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will have > > > > difficulty > > > > > > recovering from in the years ahead. " > > > > > > > > > > > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined Connecticut > > > > independent > > > > > > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. And > > > Virginia > > > > > > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan to > > send > > > > > 30,000 > > > > > > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on > > Tuesday's > > > > vote, > > > > > > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the bugle > of > > > > > retreat. " > > > > > > > > > > > > " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in Iraq > > that > > > > > > coalition forces have begun to take the first step > > backwards, " > > > > said > > > > > > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services > > > > > Committee. " We > > > > > > cannot take that step -- not at this time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear David and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the US > > > > Presidency > > > > > is > > > > > > > clearly above normal levels these days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for the > > > > > military. It > > > > > > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is opposite > > > transit > > > > > L8 > > > > > > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine officers, > > > including > > > > > up to > > > > > > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in the > > > aftermath > > > > > of > > > > > > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, AP > > reports > > > > > citing > > > > > > > senior defense officials. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear thor... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- > -- > > -- > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary J. > > > Steven > > > > > Griles > > > > > > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a > Senate > > > > > > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest-ranking > Bush > > > > > > > administration official convicted in the Jack Abramoff > > > > corruption > > > > > > scandal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior Department > > > admitted > > > > in > > > > > > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his > > > relationship > > > > > with > > > > > > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought Griles' > > > > > > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's Indian > > > tribal > > > > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for testifying > > > > falsely > > > > > > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on November 2, > > > 2005, > > > > > and > > > > > > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's > investigators > > on > > > > > October > > > > > > > 20, 2005. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the > > > > > responsibility for > > > > > > > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles said > > in a > > > > > > > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, they > > must > > > be > > > > > > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place to > > > decide > > > > > > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. I > > > > apologize > > > > > to > > > > > > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > cosmologer > > > > > > > > SAMVA > > > > > > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal Sun > in > > > the > > > > > > SAMVA USA > > > > > > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of obstacles > > > being > > > > > > thrown in > > > > > > > > the way of President Bush. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > > > > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to require > > > > > President > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall 2008, > > > despite > > > > > a White > > > > > > > > House veto threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > > > > > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > > > > > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted > Friday > > to > > > > > order > > > > > > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from Iraq > > next > > > > > year, a > > > > > > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers struggle > and > > > > > Congress' > > > > > > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's policy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers voted > 218- > > > 212, > > > > > mostly > > > > > > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill requiring > > that > > > > > combat > > > > > > > > operations cease before September 2008, or earlier if > > the > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > government does not meet certain requirements. > > Democrats > > > > said > > > > > it was > > > > > > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep last > > > > > November, > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the > president's > > > > > conduct of > > > > > > > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D- > > Calif. " The > > > > > American > > > > > > > > people see the reality of the war, the president does > > > not. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > <cosmologer@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > > > > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush warned > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > Tuesday to > > > > > > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify about the > > > > > firings of > > > > > > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not under > oath > > or > > > > > risk a > > > > > > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not > back > > > down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and > > firm: > > > > They > > > > > > > said they > > > > > > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as > > Wednesday > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > > House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under oath. > > > That's > > > > > the > > > > > > > formula > > > > > > > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, > > chairman > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White > > House, > > > > > said, > > > > > > > " We will > > > > > > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition > aimed > > at > > > > > honorable > > > > > > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a reasonable > way > > to > > > > > avoid an > > > > > > > > > impasse. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him and > it > > is > > > > > > natural to > > > > > > > > > consider replacing them. " There is no indication > that > > > > > anybody did > > > > > > > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto > > > > Gonzales, > > > > > a > > > > > > boost > > > > > > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day with > a > > > > public > > > > > > > statement > > > > > > > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of > his > > > > > authority to > > > > > > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate > > > confirmation. > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House > purged > > > > eight > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading political > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act > gave > > > > > > Gonzales the > > > > > > > > > new authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls > > > Hillary > > > > > Rodham > > > > > > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, > > have > > > > > > called for > > > > > > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful > of > > > > > Republican > > > > > > > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal really > > > through > > > > > > > intimidation > > > > > > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " said > > Sen. > > > > > Sheldon > > > > > > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who > spent > > > much > > > > of > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released by > the > > > > > Justice > > > > > > > > Department. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, > told > > > > > lawmakers > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, > > former > > > > > White > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but only > on > > the > > > > > > president's > > > > > > > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an oath " > and > > > > > without a > > > > > > > > > transcript. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually > > unprecedented > > > > and > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the > > information > > > it > > > > > needs > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and > > find > > > > > the right > > > > > > > > > information, they ought to accept what I proposed, " > > Bush > > > > > said. " If > > > > > > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then the > > > rejection > > > > > of this > > > > > > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for the > > > > American > > > > > > > people to > > > > > > > > > see. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court any > > > attempt > > > > > to > > > > > > > subpoena > > > > > > > > > White House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in constant > > fear > > > of > > > > > being > > > > > > > hauled > > > > > > > > > before various committees to discuss internal > > > > > deliberations, the > > > > > > > > > president would not receive candid advice and the > > > American > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the > > situation > > > > has > > > > > > > gotten to > > > > > > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., for > you. > > > You > > > > > know > > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate probe > > > into > > > > the > > > > > > > firings, > > > > > > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White > > > House: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to > > them, > > > > > but not > > > > > > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of > what > > > > > really > > > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > > here. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally > > > required > > > > to > > > > > > tell the > > > > > > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their > > > > > comments, " it > > > > > > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they would > be > > > > under > > > > > some > > > > > > > kind > > > > > > > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours > > > after > > > > > Bush > > > > > > spoke > > > > > > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call-their > > first > > > > > > > conversation > > > > > > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his > > > > > longtime > > > > > > friend > > > > > > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for > Gonzales' > > > > > ouster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews with > > Rove, > > > > > Miers, > > > > > > > deputy > > > > > > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott > > > Jennings, > > > > a > > > > > > > deputy to > > > > > > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who > works > > > for > > > > > Rove. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted > > without > > > > the > > > > > > need for > > > > > > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the > > > > subsequent > > > > > > issuance > > > > > > > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the > > Senate > > > and > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice > > > Department " do > > > > not > > > > > > reflect > > > > > > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere > with > > a > > > > > pending or > > > > > > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other > > improper > > > > > reason. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven contributed > to > > > this > > > > > repo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another health > > > > incident > > > > > > today. > > > > > > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because of > the > > > > scandal > > > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > > > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General this > > > morning > > > > to > > > > > > > confirm his > > > > > > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for him to > > > resign > > > > > or be > > > > > > > > removed. > > > > > > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee > > has > > > > > insisted > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the President, > > testify > > > > > under > > > > > > oath > > > > > > > > > > before the committee about his role in the > firings > > of > > > > > eight US > > > > > > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to > have > > him > > > > > > > interviewed but > > > > > > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US > Presidency > > are > > > > > > > consistent with > > > > > > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 Sun > > and > > > > H2, > > > > > as > > > > > > > well as > > > > > > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 Sun > and > > > > > transit > > > > > > > L10 Mars, > > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in leg > > with > > > > clot > > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment after > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > in leg > > > > > > > > > > with blood clot > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with clot > > > > > discovered in > > > > > > > > February > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after treatment > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney > went > > to > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday morning > after > > > > > > experiencing > > > > > > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a blood > > clot > > > was > > > > > > > discovered a > > > > > > > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was > asked > > to > > > > > return > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the > deep > > > > venous > > > > > > > thrombosis, > > > > > > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan > McGinn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or > > complication > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > clot, " > > > > > > > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was > found > > to > > > be > > > > > > > therapeutic. > > > > > > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, and > the > > > > current > > > > > > > course of > > > > > > > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume his > > > normal > > > > > > > schedule, she > > > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a > blood > > > clot > > > > > in > > > > > > > the vice > > > > > > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that he > > likely > > > > > would > > > > > > > have to be > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for > several > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time > that > > the > > > > > > > 66-year-old had > > > > > > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after > > feeling > > > > minor > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood clot - > - > > > > > called a > > > > > > deep > > > > > > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can become > > > > killers > > > > > if > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is > called a > > > > > pulmonary > > > > > > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an > estimated > > 2 > > > > > million > > > > > > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after spending > long > > > > > periods > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul airline > > > flights. > > > > > > > Cheney had > > > > > > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a nine- > day, > > > > > > > round-the-world > > > > > > > > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related > problems > > > over > > > > > the > > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in 2005 > to > > > > repair > > > > > a > > > > > > > kind of > > > > > > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery > that > > can > > > > > burst > > > > > > > if left > > > > > > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, > quadruple > > > > bypass > > > > > > > surgery, > > > > > > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an > operation > > to > > > > > implant a > > > > > > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the Vice > > > > > President, the > > > > > > > > perjury > > > > > > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the resignation > > of > > > the > > > > > > > Secretary of > > > > > > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems > > facing > > > the > > > > > US > > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated > > > > > congressional > > > > > > > > hearings on > > > > > > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim > they > > > were > > > > > > fired for > > > > > > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat by > > > several > > > > > US > > > > > > > military > > > > > > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that > > > were > > > > not > > > > > > > enough, in > > > > > > > > > > > the background to these more recent > developments > > is > > > > the > > > > > > ongoing > > > > > > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian > > > > > > casulaties. The > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US > > > Presidency > > > > > all at > > > > > > > > once are > > > > > > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions > > > involving > > > > > both the > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice > President > > > Dick > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > had been > > > > > > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after > > > > returning > > > > > > from a > > > > > > > > > > > grueling > > > > > > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health setback > > raises > > > > > > > questions about > > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job but > > > also > > > > his > > > > > > > fitness to > > > > > > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President Bush > > for > > > > some > > > > > > > reason is > > > > > > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice > > > > President > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political > scandal. > > > Many > > > > > see the > > > > > > > > aide as > > > > > > > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice > > > > > President. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent with > > the > > > > > > transit and > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood > clot > > in > > > > his > > > > > leg > > > > > > > and is > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, his > > office > > > > > has said. > > > > > > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower left > leg > > on > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work after > the > > > > > > examination. > > > > > > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning > > > medication > > > > for > > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac > > problems. > > > He > > > > > has > > > > > > > suffered > > > > > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in > > 2001 > > > > > > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - > > are > > > > > often > > > > > > > associated > > > > > > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the > > reduced > > > air > > > > > > > pressure and > > > > > > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of > > inactivity > > > > and > > > > > > > dehydration > > > > > > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves > are > > > not > > > > > > > > life-threatening > > > > > > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in > > the > > > > > lungs or > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak > case > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, > a > > > > > former top > > > > > > > aide to > > > > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on > > > Tuesday > > > > > of four > > > > > > > > counts > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during > an > > > > > > investigation > > > > > > > > tied > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly > > > said > > > > he > > > > > would > > > > > > > > seek a > > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to > > the > > > > FBI > > > > > in > > > > > > > the probe > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA > > > analyst > > > > > in > > > > > > > 2003. He > > > > > > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense > > attorney > > > > > Theodore > > > > > > > Wells > > > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would > > appeal > > > the > > > > > > > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Dear friends, More problems for the President this week. Best wishes, Thor Congress set to defy Bush on Iraq war Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:08pm ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A fight between the U.S. Congress and President George W. Bush over the Iraq war is set to come to a head this week when Democrats are expected to send him $100 billion to pay for continuing combat while setting timetables for withdrawing troops. Bush has promised to veto any bill setting dates for removing U.S. combat soldiers from the Iraq war, now in its fifth year.But when a Democratic-controlled panel of Senate and House of Representatives members meets on Monday to iron out differences between their respective bills, the product is expected to contain 2008 withdrawal dates. SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear list members, > > A relentless barrage of problems continues to land in the lap of > President Bush. > > 1. A top ranking Democrat has publically announced that he directly > told President Bush that the war in Iraq is lost " politically, > militarily and economically " . > > 2. A senator has also demanded that the head of the Justice > Department, Gonzales, resign. Earlier Gonzales personally apologised > for the firings of the 8 US justices, thereby assuming responsibility > for the fiasco. > > The problems should be even greater next week in light of the transits > impacting the strength of transit and natal Sun in the SAMVA USA > chart. We will soon see. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > 1. > Iraq war is 'lost': US Democrat leader > Apr 19 02:45 PM US/Eastern > > The war in Iraq " is lost " and a US troop surge is failing to bring > peace to the country, the leader of the Democratic majority in the US > Congress, Harry Reid, said Thursday. " I believe ... that this war is > lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the > extreme violence in Iraq this week, " Reid told journalists. Reid said > he had delivered the same message to US President George W. Bush on > Wednesday, when the US president met with senior lawmakers to discuss > how to end a standoff over an emergency war funding bill. " I know I > was the odd guy out at the White House, but I told him at least what > he needed to hear ... I believe the war at this stage can only be won > diplomatically, politically and economically. " Congress is seeking to > tie funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to a timetable to > withdraw US troops from Iraq next year, but Bush has vowed to veto any > such bill and no breakthrough was reported from the White House talks. > Bush on Thursday was addressing an Ohio town hall meeting and > defending the war on terror launched in the wake of the September 11, > 2001 attacks. " It is the most solemn duty of our country, is to > protect our country from harm, " Bush told the invited audience in > Tipp, Ohio. > > " A lesson learned was that -- at least in my opinion -- that in order > to protect us, we must aggressively pursue the enemy and defeat them > elsewhere so that we do not have to face them here. " > > 2. > Republican senator calls for Gonzales to quit > POSTED: 4:14 p.m. EDT, April 19, 2007 > Story Highlights > • NEW: Republican Sen. Coburn urges Gonzales to resign > • Gonzales: Alleging partisanship is an attack on career Justice Dept. > employees > • Gonzales says he'll resign if he can no longer be an effective leader > • Sen. Arlen Specter questions attorney general on extent of involvement > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales confronted a > fresh call for his resignation from a fellow Republican Thursday as he > struggled to survive a bipartisan Senate challenge to his credibility > in the case of eight fired prosecutors. Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom > Coburn told Gonzales that the situation was handled incompetently and > said there should be consequences. " The communication was atrocious. > It was inconsistent -- it's generous to say that there was > misstatements; it's a generous statement. And I believe you ought to > suffer the consequences that these others have suffered, " Coburn said. > " And I believe the best way to put this behind us is your > resignation. " Coburn is the first Republican on the Senate Judiciary > Committee to call for Gonzales' resignation. > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear list members, > > > > The problems facing the US Presidency are still numerous, and don´t > > seem to be fading away: > > > > - The death toll of US troops in Iraq keeps on mounting. > > - The head of the Justice Department, Gonzales, who has been strongly > > backed by President Bush, in his recent problems over the firings of > > justices, is again in hot water. Emails now show that he suggested > > replacing the justices one year before they were let go. This brings > > the matter right to his doorstep. If he is forced to step down that > > would be a setback for the President. > > - Another close associate of President Bush, Wolfowitz, head of the > > World Bank, is now in hot water over the pay raise he arranged for > > his girlfriend. While the scandal is not as big as some others it is > > being seized upon to try to get rid of this appointy of President > > Bush. Many countries were upset when a symbol of US arrogance and > > unilateral actions of the US in the world was appointed to this body > > and would like to get rid of him. If they succeed it would be a > > setback for President Bush. > > - a story is now in the news that 5 million emails in the White House > > are missing. The loss of emails came to light when an inquiry was > > launched into allegations that Karl Rove, the chief political advisor > > to the President, had used offical email for political purposes, > > which is banned by law. If the allegations are proven, it would be > > another setback for the President. > > > > In other words, there are continuing problems for President Bush, > > which is not surprising in view of the transits in the SAMVA USA > > chart, notably the aspect of transit L8 Saturn to natal L2 Sun. The > > afflictions involving transit L6 Jupiter and L8 Saturn are making > > this aspect more difficult. In general, the difficult aspects will > > only become more difficult in the coming four weeks or so. One > > helpful transit is that L2 Sun has now entered the sign Aries (and > > H10) where it is exalted. While that would ordinarily be likely to > > help the US President, L10 Mars is now in H8 and about to become > > conjunct transit Rahu. This would undermine the strength of the Sun > > in H10. Hence, the transit of the Sun may actually only add to the > > difficulty of problems facing President Bush in the coming week or > > two. We will see how things turn out. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > White House: Millions of e-mails may be missing > > POSTED: 7:07 p.m. EDT, April 13, 2007 > > Story Highlights• NEW: White House spokeswoman says 5 million > > official e-mails may be missing > > • White House admits it should have kept e-mails on private GOP system > > • Chairman of Senate Judiciary Committee doubts e-mails are deleted > > • Committee investigating whether U.S. attorneys' firings were > > politically motivated > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Millions of White House e-mails may be missing, > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino acknowledged Friday. > > > > " I wouldn't rule out that there were a potential 5 million e- mails > > lost, " Perino told reporters. > > > > The administration was already facing sharp questions about whether > > top presidential advisers including Karl Rove improperly used > > Republican National Committee e-mail that the White House said later > > disappeared. > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > The following six news headlines on DrudgeReport.com today about > > the > > > policy debate in the USA over the war in Iraq give a fascinating > > > overview of the current political situation. > > > > > > Democrats Escalate Iraq War Debate... > > > Reid May Move to Cut Funds... > > > CHENEY: MILITARY ANSWERS TO ONE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF... > > > House Republicans Have Votes To Sustain Veto... > > > Hillary Challenges Veto Threat... > > > Bush Rips Dems Over War Funding... > > > > > > These news headlines show clearly what an epic power struggle has > > > developed between the Democratically controlled Congress > > (Legislative > > > branch of government) and the Republican controlled White House > > > (Executive branch of government). The problems for President Bush > > are > > > indeed significant at this time. > > > > > > These problems are clearly reflected in the SAMVA USA chart, with > > > transit L8 Saturn having reached 24° 24' Cancer H1 in opposition to > > > natal L2 Sun at 23° 45' Capricorn. Saturn will become stationary > > at > > > 24° 11' Cancer in the third week of April, In terms of this aspect, > > > the greatest strain for the indications of the Sun should be felt. > > > > > > As mentioned in other posts there are numerous other aspects to > > > consider, not least the stationary nodes impact on the house MEPs > > and > > > natal L4 Venus in H6 and the impact of transit L6 Jupiter in H5 on > > > transit L8 Saturn in H1. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > Two news items have appeared this weekend signalling difficulty > > for > > > > President Bush, also related to 4th house matters. One has to do > > > with > > > > emission of greenhouse gasses. The other story has to do with > > > > regulations concerning logging in wildlife areas. Bush had > > proposed > > > > more freedom, but the judge insisted that environmental > > > > considerations be brought into the picture, reversing the > > > regulation. > > > > Such stories show the impact of the present transits in the SAMVA > > > USA > > > > chart with regard to L2 Sun and L4 Venus. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > Split court rules against Bush on greenhouse gases > > > > POSTED: 10:50 a.m. EDT, April 2, 2007 > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ordered the federal > > government > > > > on Monday to take a fresh look at regulating carbon dioxide > > > emissions > > > > from cars, a rebuke to Bush administration policy on global > > warming. > > > > > > > > In a 5-4 decision, the court said the Clean Air Act gives the > > > > Environmental Protection Agency the authority to regulate the > > > > emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from cars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/02/scotus.greenhousegas.ap/index.html > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional clarification. > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, there is an unusual amount of adverse transit impacts > > > > active > > > > > at present in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by you > > and > > > > > take part in > > > > > > making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting > > > situations > > > > > and > > > > > > obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at the > > > > highest > > > > > level in > > > > > > US. I was partially looking into the aspect of conflicts. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional insights. > > > > > > > > > > > > For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit > > nodes > > > on > > > > H2 > > > > > > MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in turn > > its > > > > > > affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to explain > > these > > > > > > events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on > > natal > > > L2 > > > > > > Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8 Saturn > > on > > > > > > natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the > > indications > > > of > > > > > > the Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts and > > the > > > > > > close > > > > > > > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu axis > > > are > > > > > > showing the > > > > > > > impact of current affliction in the chart in a pronounced > > > > manner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The > > Democratically > > > > > > > controlled Congress since last November has begun to show > > its > > > > > teeth > > > > > > > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the > > > > President, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has been > > > > passed > > > > > > > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from > > Iraq. > > > > > > > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared the > > US > > > > > should > > > > > > > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President now > > has > > > > only > > > > > > one > > > > > > > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in both > > > > > chambers > > > > > > > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a > > > development > > > > is > > > > > > > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even > > > further, > > > > > > > adding to the problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and period > > > > > > dynmamics > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn in > > H1 > > > > now > > > > > > > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart Saturn > > > rules > > > > > > > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader of > > the > > > > > > > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such affliction. > > > > > > Moreover, > > > > > > > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of the 'executive' > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up in > > > this > > > > > > > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In coming > > > > days > > > > > it > > > > > > > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the > > conditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This and other political developments show clearly that the > > > > > > prediction > > > > > > > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the > > Spring > > > > > > months > > > > > > > is being realised. The chart also suggests the intensity of > > > the > > > > > > > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate in > > the > > > > > second > > > > > > > half of May. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote > > > > > > > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto > > > > > > > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from funding > > bill > > > > > > > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes failure > > > in > > > > > Iraq > > > > > > > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, sets > > > > March > > > > > > 2008 > > > > > > > deadline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the Democratic- > > led > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for U.S. > > > > > > withdrawal > > > > > > > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds > > majority > > > > > needed > > > > > > > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a sign > > of > > > > > growing > > > > > > > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of the > > > > House > > > > > > and > > > > > > > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American > > people, " > > > > said > > > > > > Sen. > > > > > > > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be > > > heeded > > > > by > > > > > > the > > > > > > > president and by the government of Iraq. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin > > > withdrawing > > > > > from > > > > > > > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next > > March. > > > A > > > > > > > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on training > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, said > > that > > > > > > > effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo to > > our > > > > > enemies > > > > > > > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the day we > > > > > leave, " > > > > > > he > > > > > > > said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we > > plan > > > to > > > > > walk > > > > > > > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we > > leave > > > > > > behind. " > > > > > > > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 billion > > > > already > > > > > > > approved for this year and would drive the price tag for the > > > > > > > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. The > > > > Pentagon > > > > > > > says it would have to start diverting funds from other > > > programs > > > > to > > > > > > > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives with > > an > > > > > August > > > > > > > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any > > bill > > > > that > > > > > > > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he considers > > > > > > extraneous > > > > > > > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure > > > > > as " political > > > > > > > theater. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that threat > > > > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in the > > > > field, > > > > > > this > > > > > > > bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This and > > > other > > > > > > > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at > > grave > > > > > risk, > > > > > > > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's > > plans > > > to > > > > > > > develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. commander > > > > outline > > > > > > his > > > > > > > concerns Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority fell > > > short > > > > of > > > > > > > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. > > > > Republicans > > > > > had > > > > > > > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous statements > > of > > > > > > > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would not > > > use > > > > > that > > > > > > > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this case > > > > because > > > > > > > " it's important to get the money to the troops. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call for a > > > > > pullout > > > > > > is > > > > > > > a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy mistake of > > > our > > > > > > time " > > > > > > > to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it is > > > their > > > > > > > country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White House > > > > > hustling > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a > > > possible > > > > > tie. > > > > > > > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid > > acknowledged, " We > > > > don't > > > > > > > know how it's going to turn out. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Gordon > > > > Smith > > > > > of > > > > > > > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP- backed > > > > > amendment. > > > > > > > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people are demanding that we develop a > > > bipartisan > > > > > > > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit strategy > > from > > > > > Iraq, " > > > > > > > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential > > candidate. " If > > > we > > > > > > fail > > > > > > > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, > > > America > > > > > will > > > > > > > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will have > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > recovering from in the years ahead. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined Connecticut > > > > > independent > > > > > > > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. And > > > > Virginia > > > > > > > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan to > > > send > > > > > > 30,000 > > > > > > > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on > > > Tuesday's > > > > > vote, > > > > > > > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the bugle > > of > > > > > > retreat. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in Iraq > > > that > > > > > > > coalition forces have begun to take the first step > > > backwards, " > > > > > said > > > > > > > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services > > > > > > Committee. " We > > > > > > > cannot take that step -- not at this time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear David and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the US > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > clearly above normal levels these days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for the > > > > > > military. It > > > > > > > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is opposite > > > > transit > > > > > > L8 > > > > > > > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine officers, > > > > including > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in the > > > > aftermath > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, AP > > > reports > > > > > > citing > > > > > > > > senior defense officials. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear thor... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- ---- > > -- > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > > -- > > > > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary J. > > > > Steven > > > > > > Griles > > > > > > > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a > > Senate > > > > > > > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest- ranking > > Bush > > > > > > > > administration official convicted in the Jack Abramoff > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > scandal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior Department > > > > admitted > > > > > in > > > > > > > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his > > > > relationship > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought Griles' > > > > > > > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's Indian > > > > tribal > > > > > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for testifying > > > > > falsely > > > > > > > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on November 2, > > > > 2005, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's > > investigators > > > on > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > 20, 2005. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the > > > > > > responsibility for > > > > > > > > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles said > > > in a > > > > > > > > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, they > > > must > > > > be > > > > > > > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place to > > > > decide > > > > > > > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. I > > > > > apologize > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > cosmologer > > > > > > > > > SAMVA > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal Sun > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > SAMVA USA > > > > > > > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of obstacles > > > > being > > > > > > > thrown in > > > > > > > > > the way of President Bush. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > > > > > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to require > > > > > > President > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall 2008, > > > > despite > > > > > > a White > > > > > > > > > House veto threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > > > > > > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > > > > > > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted > > Friday > > > to > > > > > > order > > > > > > > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from Iraq > > > next > > > > > > year, a > > > > > > > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers struggle > > and > > > > > > Congress' > > > > > > > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's policy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers voted > > 218- > > > > 212, > > > > > > mostly > > > > > > > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill requiring > > > that > > > > > > combat > > > > > > > > > operations cease before September 2008, or earlier if > > > the > > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > > government does not meet certain requirements. > > > Democrats > > > > > said > > > > > > it was > > > > > > > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep last > > > > > > November, > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the > > president's > > > > > > conduct of > > > > > > > > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D- > > > Calif. " The > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > people see the reality of the war, the president does > > > > not. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > > > > > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush warned > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > Tuesday to > > > > > > > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify about the > > > > > > firings of > > > > > > > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not under > > oath > > > or > > > > > > risk a > > > > > > > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not > > back > > > > down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and > > > firm: > > > > > They > > > > > > > > said they > > > > > > > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as > > > Wednesday > > > > for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > > > House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under oath. > > > > That's > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > formula > > > > > > > > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, > > > chairman > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White > > > House, > > > > > > said, > > > > > > > > " We will > > > > > > > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition > > aimed > > > at > > > > > > honorable > > > > > > > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a reasonable > > way > > > to > > > > > > avoid an > > > > > > > > > > impasse. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him and > > it > > > is > > > > > > > natural to > > > > > > > > > > consider replacing them. " There is no indication > > that > > > > > > anybody did > > > > > > > > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto > > > > > Gonzales, > > > > > > a > > > > > > > boost > > > > > > > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day with > > a > > > > > public > > > > > > > > statement > > > > > > > > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of > > his > > > > > > authority to > > > > > > > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate > > > > confirmation. > > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House > > purged > > > > > eight > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading political > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act > > gave > > > > > > > Gonzales the > > > > > > > > > > new authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls > > > > Hillary > > > > > > Rodham > > > > > > > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, > > > have > > > > > > > called for > > > > > > > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful > > of > > > > > > Republican > > > > > > > > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal really > > > > through > > > > > > > > intimidation > > > > > > > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " said > > > Sen. > > > > > > Sheldon > > > > > > > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who > > spent > > > > much > > > > > of > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released by > > the > > > > > > Justice > > > > > > > > > Department. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, > > told > > > > > > lawmakers > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, > > > former > > > > > > White > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but only > > on > > > the > > > > > > > president's > > > > > > > > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an oath " > > and > > > > > > without a > > > > > > > > > > transcript. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually > > > unprecedented > > > > > and > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the > > > information > > > > it > > > > > > needs > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and > > > find > > > > > > the right > > > > > > > > > > information, they ought to accept what I proposed, " > > > Bush > > > > > > said. " If > > > > > > > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then the > > > > rejection > > > > > > of this > > > > > > > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for the > > > > > American > > > > > > > > people to > > > > > > > > > > see. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court any > > > > attempt > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > subpoena > > > > > > > > > > White House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in constant > > > fear > > > > of > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > hauled > > > > > > > > > > before various committees to discuss internal > > > > > > deliberations, the > > > > > > > > > > president would not receive candid advice and the > > > > American > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the > > > situation > > > > > has > > > > > > > > gotten to > > > > > > > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., for > > you. > > > > You > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate probe > > > > into > > > > > the > > > > > > > > firings, > > > > > > > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White > > > > House: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to > > > them, > > > > > > but not > > > > > > > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of > > what > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > > > here. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally > > > > required > > > > > to > > > > > > > tell the > > > > > > > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their > > > > > > comments, " it > > > > > > > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they would > > be > > > > > under > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > kind > > > > > > > > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours > > > > after > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > spoke > > > > > > > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call- their > > > first > > > > > > > > conversation > > > > > > > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his > > > > > > longtime > > > > > > > friend > > > > > > > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for > > Gonzales' > > > > > > ouster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews with > > > Rove, > > > > > > Miers, > > > > > > > > deputy > > > > > > > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott > > > > Jennings, > > > > > a > > > > > > > > deputy to > > > > > > > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who > > works > > > > for > > > > > > Rove. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted > > > without > > > > > the > > > > > > > need for > > > > > > > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the > > > > > subsequent > > > > > > > issuance > > > > > > > > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the > > > Senate > > > > and > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice > > > > Department " do > > > > > not > > > > > > > reflect > > > > > > > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere > > with > > > a > > > > > > pending or > > > > > > > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other > > > improper > > > > > > reason. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven contributed > > to > > > > this > > > > > > repo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another health > > > > > incident > > > > > > > today. > > > > > > > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because of > > the > > > > > scandal > > > > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > > > > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General this > > > > morning > > > > > to > > > > > > > > confirm his > > > > > > > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for him to > > > > resign > > > > > > or be > > > > > > > > > removed. > > > > > > > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee > > > has > > > > > > insisted > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the President, > > > testify > > > > > > under > > > > > > > oath > > > > > > > > > > > before the committee about his role in the > > firings > > > of > > > > > > eight US > > > > > > > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to > > have > > > him > > > > > > > > interviewed but > > > > > > > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US > > Presidency > > > are > > > > > > > > consistent with > > > > > > > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 Sun > > > and > > > > > H2, > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > well as > > > > > > > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 Sun > > and > > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, > > > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in leg > > > with > > > > > clot > > > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment after > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > in leg > > > > > > > > > > > with blood clot > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with clot > > > > > > discovered in > > > > > > > > > February > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after treatment > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney > > went > > > to > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday morning > > after > > > > > > > experiencing > > > > > > > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a blood > > > clot > > > > was > > > > > > > > discovered a > > > > > > > > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was > > asked > > > to > > > > > > return > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the > > deep > > > > > venous > > > > > > > > thrombosis, > > > > > > > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan > > McGinn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or > > > complication > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > clot, " > > > > > > > > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was > > found > > > to > > > > be > > > > > > > > therapeutic. > > > > > > > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, and > > the > > > > > current > > > > > > > > course of > > > > > > > > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume his > > > > normal > > > > > > > > schedule, she > > > > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a > > blood > > > > clot > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the vice > > > > > > > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that he > > > likely > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > have to be > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for > > several > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time > > that > > > the > > > > > > > > 66-year-old had > > > > > > > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after > > > feeling > > > > > minor > > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood clot - > > - > > > > > > called a > > > > > > > deep > > > > > > > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can become > > > > > killers > > > > > > if > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is > > called a > > > > > > pulmonary > > > > > > > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an > > estimated > > > 2 > > > > > > million > > > > > > > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after spending > > long > > > > > > periods > > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul airline > > > > flights. > > > > > > > > Cheney had > > > > > > > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a nine- > > day, > > > > > > > > round-the-world > > > > > > > > > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related > > problems > > > > over > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in 2005 > > to > > > > > repair > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > kind of > > > > > > > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery > > that > > > can > > > > > > burst > > > > > > > > if left > > > > > > > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, > > quadruple > > > > > bypass > > > > > > > > surgery, > > > > > > > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an > > operation > > > to > > > > > > implant a > > > > > > > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the Vice > > > > > > President, the > > > > > > > > > perjury > > > > > > > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the resignation > > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > > Secretary of > > > > > > > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems > > > facing > > > > the > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated > > > > > > congressional > > > > > > > > > hearings on > > > > > > > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim > > they > > > > were > > > > > > > fired for > > > > > > > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat by > > > > several > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > military > > > > > > > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As that > > > > were > > > > > not > > > > > > > > enough, in > > > > > > > > > > > > the background to these more recent > > developments > > > is > > > > > the > > > > > > > ongoing > > > > > > > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and civilian > > > > > > > casulaties. The > > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US > > > > Presidency > > > > > > all at > > > > > > > > > once are > > > > > > > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions > > > > involving > > > > > > both the > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice > > President > > > > Dick > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > had been > > > > > > > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, after > > > > > returning > > > > > > > from a > > > > > > > > > > > > grueling > > > > > > > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health setback > > > raises > > > > > > > > questions about > > > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job but > > > > also > > > > > his > > > > > > > > fitness to > > > > > > > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President Bush > > > for > > > > > some > > > > > > > > reason is > > > > > > > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to Vice > > > > > President > > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political > > scandal. > > > > Many > > > > > > see the > > > > > > > > > aide as > > > > > > > > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the Vice > > > > > > President. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent with > > > the > > > > > > > transit and > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA USA > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood > > clot > > > in > > > > > his > > > > > > leg > > > > > > > > and is > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, his > > > office > > > > > > has said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower left > > leg > > > on > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work after > > the > > > > > > > examination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning > > > > medication > > > > > for > > > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac > > > problems. > > > > He > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > suffered > > > > > > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate heartbeat in > > > 2001 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis (DVT) - > > > are > > > > > > often > > > > > > > > associated > > > > > > > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the > > > reduced > > > > air > > > > > > > > pressure and > > > > > > > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of > > > inactivity > > > > > and > > > > > > > > dehydration > > > > > > > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots themselves > > are > > > > not > > > > > > > > > life-threatening > > > > > > > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become wedged in > > > the > > > > > > lungs or > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA leak > > case > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " Libby, > > a > > > > > > former top > > > > > > > > aide to > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted on > > > > Tuesday > > > > > > of four > > > > > > > > > counts > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury during > > an > > > > > > > investigation > > > > > > > > > tied > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys promptly > > > > said > > > > > he > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > seek a > > > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of lying to > > > the > > > > > FBI > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the probe > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a CIA > > > > analyst > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 2003. He > > > > > > > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense > > > attorney > > > > > > Theodore > > > > > > > > Wells > > > > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would > > > appeal > > > > the > > > > > > > > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Bush Won't Accept Iraq War Timetable Apr 24 12:29 PM US/Eastern By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush, standing firmly against a timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq, said Tuesday that he will veto the latest war spending bill taking shape in Congress. " I'm disappointed that the Democratic leadership has chosen this course, " Bush said. " They chose to make a political statement, " he said. " That's their right but it is wrong for our troops and it's wrong for our country. To accept the bill proposed by the Democratic leadership would be to accept a policy that directly contradicts the judgment of our military commanders. " House and Senate Democratic appropriators agreed Monday on a $124 billion bill that would fund the Iraq war but order troops to begin leaving by Oct. 1 with the goal of completing the pullout six months later. Democrats would need a two-thirds majority to override a presidential veto. Democrats said they won't back down and pointed to past remarks by Gen. David Petraeus, the new Iraq commander, that security in Iraq requires a political solution. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who says the war in Iraq is " lost, " likened Bush to President Lyndon Johnson, saying Johnson ordered troop escalations in Vietnam in an attempt " to save his political legacy " only to watch U.S. casualties climb steadily. Bush said U.S. troops should not be caught in the middle of a showdown between the White House and Congress. " Yesterday, Democratic leaders announced that they planned to send me a bill that will fund our troops only if we agree to handcuff our generals, add billions of dollars of unrelated spending and begin to pull out of Iraq by an arbitrary date, " Bush said on the South Lawn. He said the bill would mandate the withdrawal of U.S. troops beginning as early as July 1 and no later than Oct. 1, despite the fact that Petraeus has not yet received all the reinforcements he has said he needs in the latest military buildup to help secure Baghdad and the troubled Anbar Province. Democrats have argued that the election that left Democrats in control of Congress was a referendum for a change of strategy in Iraq. Bush used the same election results to argue his point. " The American people did not vote for failure, " he said. " That is precisely what the Democratic leadership's bill would guarantee. " It's not too late for Congress to do the right thing. " [snip] Under the nonbinding timeline, all combat troops would be withdrawn by April 1, 2008. [snip] SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear friends, > > More problems for the President this week. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Congress set to defy Bush on Iraq war > Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:08pm ET > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A fight between the U.S. Congress and > President George W. Bush over the Iraq war is set to come to a head > this week when Democrats are expected to send him $100 billion to pay > for continuing combat while setting timetables for withdrawing troops. > Bush has promised to veto any bill setting dates for removing U.S. > combat soldiers from the Iraq war, now in its fifth year.But when a > Democratic-controlled panel of Senate and House of Representatives > members meets on Monday to iron out differences between their > respective bills, the product is expected to contain 2008 withdrawal > dates. > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear list members, > > > > A relentless barrage of problems continues to land in the lap of > > President Bush. > > > > 1. A top ranking Democrat has publically announced that he directly > > told President Bush that the war in Iraq is lost " politically, > > militarily and economically " . > > > > 2. A senator has also demanded that the head of the Justice > > Department, Gonzales, resign. Earlier Gonzales personally apologised > > for the firings of the 8 US justices, thereby assuming > responsibility > > for the fiasco. > > > > The problems should be even greater next week in light of the > transits > > impacting the strength of transit and natal Sun in the SAMVA USA > > chart. We will soon see. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > 1. > > Iraq war is 'lost': US Democrat leader > > Apr 19 02:45 PM US/Eastern > > > > The war in Iraq " is lost " and a US troop surge is failing to bring > > peace to the country, the leader of the Democratic majority in the > US > > Congress, Harry Reid, said Thursday. " I believe ... that this war is > > lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by > the > > extreme violence in Iraq this week, " Reid told journalists. Reid > said > > he had delivered the same message to US President George W. Bush on > > Wednesday, when the US president met with senior lawmakers to > discuss > > how to end a standoff over an emergency war funding bill. " I know I > > was the odd guy out at the White House, but I told him at least what > > he needed to hear ... I believe the war at this stage can only be > won > > diplomatically, politically and economically. " Congress is seeking > to > > tie funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to a timetable to > > withdraw US troops from Iraq next year, but Bush has vowed to veto > any > > such bill and no breakthrough was reported from the White House > talks. > > Bush on Thursday was addressing an Ohio town hall meeting and > > defending the war on terror launched in the wake of the September > 11, > > 2001 attacks. " It is the most solemn duty of our country, is to > > protect our country from harm, " Bush told the invited audience in > > Tipp, Ohio. > > > > " A lesson learned was that -- at least in my opinion -- that in > order > > to protect us, we must aggressively pursue the enemy and defeat them > > elsewhere so that we do not have to face them here. " > > > > 2. > > Republican senator calls for Gonzales to quit > > POSTED: 4:14 p.m. EDT, April 19, 2007 > > Story Highlights > > • NEW: Republican Sen. Coburn urges Gonzales to resign > > • Gonzales: Alleging partisanship is an attack on career Justice > Dept. > > employees > > • Gonzales says he'll resign if he can no longer be an effective > leader > > • Sen. Arlen Specter questions attorney general on extent of > involvement > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales confronted a > > fresh call for his resignation from a fellow Republican Thursday as > he > > struggled to survive a bipartisan Senate challenge to his > credibility > > in the case of eight fired prosecutors. Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom > > Coburn told Gonzales that the situation was handled incompetently > and > > said there should be consequences. " The communication was atrocious. > > It was inconsistent -- it's generous to say that there was > > misstatements; it's a generous statement. And I believe you ought to > > suffer the consequences that these others have suffered, " Coburn > said. > > " And I believe the best way to put this behind us is your > > resignation. " Coburn is the first Republican on the Senate Judiciary > > Committee to call for Gonzales' resignation. > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > The problems facing the US Presidency are still numerous, and > don´t > > > seem to be fading away: > > > > > > - The death toll of US troops in Iraq keeps on mounting. > > > - The head of the Justice Department, Gonzales, who has been > strongly > > > backed by President Bush, in his recent problems over the firings > of > > > justices, is again in hot water. Emails now show that he > suggested > > > replacing the justices one year before they were let go. This > brings > > > the matter right to his doorstep. If he is forced to step down > that > > > would be a setback for the President. > > > - Another close associate of President Bush, Wolfowitz, head of > the > > > World Bank, is now in hot water over the pay raise he arranged > for > > > his girlfriend. While the scandal is not as big as some others it > is > > > being seized upon to try to get rid of this appointy of President > > > Bush. Many countries were upset when a symbol of US arrogance and > > > unilateral actions of the US in the world was appointed to this > body > > > and would like to get rid of him. If they succeed it would be a > > > setback for President Bush. > > > - a story is now in the news that 5 million emails in the White > House > > > are missing. The loss of emails came to light when an inquiry was > > > launched into allegations that Karl Rove, the chief political > advisor > > > to the President, had used offical email for political purposes, > > > which is banned by law. If the allegations are proven, it would > be > > > another setback for the President. > > > > > > In other words, there are continuing problems for President Bush, > > > which is not surprising in view of the transits in the SAMVA USA > > > chart, notably the aspect of transit L8 Saturn to natal L2 Sun. > The > > > afflictions involving transit L6 Jupiter and L8 Saturn are making > > > this aspect more difficult. In general, the difficult aspects > will > > > only become more difficult in the coming four weeks or so. One > > > helpful transit is that L2 Sun has now entered the sign Aries > (and > > > H10) where it is exalted. While that would ordinarily be likely > to > > > help the US President, L10 Mars is now in H8 and about to become > > > conjunct transit Rahu. This would undermine the strength of the > Sun > > > in H10. Hence, the transit of the Sun may actually only add to > the > > > difficulty of problems facing President Bush in the coming week > or > > > two. We will see how things turn out. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > White House: Millions of e-mails may be missing > > > POSTED: 7:07 p.m. EDT, April 13, 2007 > > > Story Highlights• NEW: White House spokeswoman says 5 million > > > official e-mails may be missing > > > • White House admits it should have kept e-mails on private GOP > system > > > • Chairman of Senate Judiciary Committee doubts e-mails are > deleted > > > • Committee investigating whether U.S. attorneys' firings were > > > politically motivated > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Millions of White House e-mails may be > missing, > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino acknowledged Friday. > > > > > > " I wouldn't rule out that there were a potential 5 million e- > mails > > > lost, " Perino told reporters. > > > > > > The administration was already facing sharp questions about > whether > > > top presidential advisers including Karl Rove improperly used > > > Republican National Committee e-mail that the White House said > later > > > disappeared. > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > The following six news headlines on DrudgeReport.com today > about > > > the > > > > policy debate in the USA over the war in Iraq give a > fascinating > > > > overview of the current political situation. > > > > > > > > Democrats Escalate Iraq War Debate... > > > > Reid May Move to Cut Funds... > > > > CHENEY: MILITARY ANSWERS TO ONE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF... > > > > House Republicans Have Votes To Sustain Veto... > > > > Hillary Challenges Veto Threat... > > > > Bush Rips Dems Over War Funding... > > > > > > > > These news headlines show clearly what an epic power struggle > has > > > > developed between the Democratically controlled Congress > > > (Legislative > > > > branch of government) and the Republican controlled White House > > > > (Executive branch of government). The problems for President > Bush > > > are > > > > indeed significant at this time. > > > > > > > > These problems are clearly reflected in the SAMVA USA chart, > with > > > > transit L8 Saturn having reached 24° 24' Cancer H1 in > opposition to > > > > natal L2 Sun at 23° 45' Capricorn. Saturn will become > stationary > > > at > > > > 24° 11' Cancer in the third week of April, In terms of this > aspect, > > > > the greatest strain for the indications of the Sun should be > felt. > > > > > > > > As mentioned in other posts there are numerous other aspects to > > > > consider, not least the stationary nodes impact on the house > MEPs > > > and > > > > natal L4 Venus in H6 and the impact of transit L6 Jupiter in H5 > on > > > > transit L8 Saturn in H1. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Two news items have appeared this weekend signalling > difficulty > > > for > > > > > President Bush, also related to 4th house matters. One has to > do > > > > with > > > > > emission of greenhouse gasses. The other story has to do with > > > > > regulations concerning logging in wildlife areas. Bush had > > > proposed > > > > > more freedom, but the judge insisted that environmental > > > > > considerations be brought into the picture, reversing the > > > > regulation. > > > > > Such stories show the impact of the present transits in the > SAMVA > > > > USA > > > > > chart with regard to L2 Sun and L4 Venus. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > Split court rules against Bush on greenhouse gases > > > > > POSTED: 10:50 a.m. EDT, April 2, 2007 > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ordered the federal > > > government > > > > > on Monday to take a fresh look at regulating carbon dioxide > > > > emissions > > > > > from cars, a rebuke to Bush administration policy on global > > > warming. > > > > > > > > > > In a 5-4 decision, the court said the Clean Air Act gives the > > > > > Environmental Protection Agency the authority to regulate the > > > > > emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from > cars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/02/scotus.greenhousegas.ap/index.html > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional clarification. > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, there is an unusual amount of adverse transit > impacts > > > > > active > > > > > > at present in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by > you > > > and > > > > > > take part in > > > > > > > making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting > > > > situations > > > > > > and > > > > > > > obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at > the > > > > > highest > > > > > > level in > > > > > > > US. I was partially looking into the aspect of conflicts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional insights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit > > > nodes > > > > on > > > > > H2 > > > > > > > MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in > turn > > > its > > > > > > > affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to > explain > > > these > > > > > > > events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on > > > natal > > > > L2 > > > > > > > Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8 > Saturn > > > on > > > > > > > natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the > > > indications > > > > of > > > > > > > the Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts > and > > > the > > > > > > > close > > > > > > > > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu > axis > > > > are > > > > > > > showing the > > > > > > > > impact of current affliction in the chart in a > pronounced > > > > > manner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The > > > Democratically > > > > > > > > controlled Congress since last November has begun to > show > > > its > > > > > > teeth > > > > > > > > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the > > > > > President, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has > been > > > > > passed > > > > > > > > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from > > > Iraq. > > > > > > > > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared > the > > > US > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President > now > > > has > > > > > only > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in > both > > > > > > chambers > > > > > > > > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a > > > > development > > > > > is > > > > > > > > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even > > > > further, > > > > > > > > adding to the problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and > period > > > > > > > dynmamics > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn > in > > > H1 > > > > > now > > > > > > > > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart > Saturn > > > > rules > > > > > > > > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader > of > > > the > > > > > > > > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such > affliction. > > > > > > > Moreover, > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of > the 'executive' > > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up > in > > > > this > > > > > > > > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In > coming > > > > > days > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the > > > conditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This and other political developments show clearly that > the > > > > > > > prediction > > > > > > > > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the > > > Spring > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > is being realised. The chart also suggests the > intensity of > > > > the > > > > > > > > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate > in > > > the > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > half of May. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote > > > > > > > > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto > > > > > > > > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from > funding > > > bill > > > > > > > > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes > failure > > > > in > > > > > > Iraq > > > > > > > > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, > sets > > > > > March > > > > > > > 2008 > > > > > > > > deadline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the > Democratic- > > > led > > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for > U.S. > > > > > > > withdrawal > > > > > > > > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds > > > majority > > > > > > needed > > > > > > > > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a > sign > > > of > > > > > > growing > > > > > > > > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of > the > > > > > House > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American > > > people, " > > > > > said > > > > > > > Sen. > > > > > > > > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be > > > > heeded > > > > > by > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > president and by the government of Iraq. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin > > > > withdrawing > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next > > > March. > > > > A > > > > > > > > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on > training > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, > said > > > that > > > > > > > > effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo > to > > > our > > > > > > enemies > > > > > > > > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the > day we > > > > > > leave, " > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we > > > plan > > > > to > > > > > > walk > > > > > > > > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we > > > leave > > > > > > > behind. " > > > > > > > > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 > billion > > > > > already > > > > > > > > approved for this year and would drive the price tag > for the > > > > > > > > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. > The > > > > > Pentagon > > > > > > > > says it would have to start diverting funds from other > > > > programs > > > > > to > > > > > > > > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives > with > > > an > > > > > > August > > > > > > > > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any > > > bill > > > > > that > > > > > > > > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he > considers > > > > > > > extraneous > > > > > > > > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure > > > > > > as " political > > > > > > > > theater. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that > threat > > > > > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in > the > > > > > field, > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This > and > > > > other > > > > > > > > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at > > > grave > > > > > > risk, > > > > > > > > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's > > > plans > > > > to > > > > > > > > develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. > commander > > > > > outline > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > concerns Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority > fell > > > > short > > > > > of > > > > > > > > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. > > > > > Republicans > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous > statements > > > of > > > > > > > > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would > not > > > > use > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this > case > > > > > because > > > > > > > > " it's important to get the money to the troops. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call > for a > > > > > > pullout > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy > mistake of > > > > our > > > > > > > time " > > > > > > > > to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it > is > > > > their > > > > > > > > country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White > House > > > > > > hustling > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a > > > > possible > > > > > > tie. > > > > > > > > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid > > > acknowledged, " We > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > know how it's going to turn out. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and > Gordon > > > > > Smith > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP- > backed > > > > > > amendment. > > > > > > > > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people are demanding that we develop a > > > > bipartisan > > > > > > > > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit > strategy > > > from > > > > > > Iraq, " > > > > > > > > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential > > > candidate. " If > > > > we > > > > > > > fail > > > > > > > > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, > > > > America > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will > have > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > recovering from in the years ahead. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined > Connecticut > > > > > > independent > > > > > > > > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. > And > > > > > Virginia > > > > > > > > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan > to > > > > send > > > > > > > 30,000 > > > > > > > > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on > > > > Tuesday's > > > > > > vote, > > > > > > > > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the > bugle > > > of > > > > > > > retreat. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in > Iraq > > > > that > > > > > > > > coalition forces have begun to take the first step > > > > backwards, " > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services > > > > > > > Committee. " We > > > > > > > > cannot take that step -- not at this time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > <cosmologer@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear David and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the > US > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > clearly above normal levels these days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for > the > > > > > > > military. It > > > > > > > > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is > opposite > > > > > transit > > > > > > > L8 > > > > > > > > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine > officers, > > > > > including > > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in > the > > > > > aftermath > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, > AP > > > > reports > > > > > > > citing > > > > > > > > > senior defense officials. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " > <david@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear thor... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > ---- > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary > J. > > > > > Steven > > > > > > > Griles > > > > > > > > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest- > ranking > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > administration official convicted in the Jack > Abramoff > > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > scandal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior > Department > > > > > admitted > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his > > > > > relationship > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought > Griles' > > > > > > > > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's > Indian > > > > > tribal > > > > > > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for > testifying > > > > > > falsely > > > > > > > > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on > November 2, > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's > > > investigators > > > > on > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > 20, 2005. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the > > > > > > > responsibility for > > > > > > > > > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles > said > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, > they > > > > must > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place > to > > > > > decide > > > > > > > > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. > I > > > > > > apologize > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > cosmologer > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal > Sun > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > SAMVA USA > > > > > > > > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of > obstacles > > > > > being > > > > > > > > thrown in > > > > > > > > > > the way of President Bush. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > > > > > > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to > require > > > > > > > President > > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall > 2008, > > > > > despite > > > > > > > a White > > > > > > > > > > House veto threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > > > > > > > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted > > > Friday > > > > to > > > > > > > order > > > > > > > > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from > Iraq > > > > next > > > > > > > year, a > > > > > > > > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers > struggle > > > and > > > > > > > Congress' > > > > > > > > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's > policy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers > voted > > > 218- > > > > > 212, > > > > > > > mostly > > > > > > > > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill > requiring > > > > that > > > > > > > combat > > > > > > > > > > operations cease before September 2008, or > earlier if > > > > the > > > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > > > government does not meet certain requirements. > > > > Democrats > > > > > > said > > > > > > > it was > > > > > > > > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep > last > > > > > > > November, > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the > > > president's > > > > > > > conduct of > > > > > > > > > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D- > > > > Calif. " The > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > > people see the reality of the war, the president > does > > > > > not. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush > warned > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > Tuesday to > > > > > > > > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify > about the > > > > > > > firings of > > > > > > > > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not > under > > > oath > > > > or > > > > > > > risk a > > > > > > > > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not > > > back > > > > > down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift > and > > > > firm: > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > said they > > > > > > > > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as > > > > Wednesday > > > > > for > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > > > > House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under > oath. > > > > > That's > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > formula > > > > > > > > > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, > > > > chairman > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the > White > > > > House, > > > > > > > said, > > > > > > > > > " We will > > > > > > > > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition > > > aimed > > > > at > > > > > > > honorable > > > > > > > > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a > reasonable > > > way > > > > to > > > > > > > avoid an > > > > > > > > > > > impasse. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him > and > > > it > > > > is > > > > > > > > natural to > > > > > > > > > > > consider replacing them. " There is no > indication > > > that > > > > > > > anybody did > > > > > > > > > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, > Alberto > > > > > > Gonzales, > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > boost > > > > > > > > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day > with > > > a > > > > > > public > > > > > > > > > statement > > > > > > > > > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales > of > > > his > > > > > > > authority to > > > > > > > > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate > > > > > confirmation. > > > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House > > > purged > > > > > > eight > > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading > political > > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot > Act > > > gave > > > > > > > > Gonzales the > > > > > > > > > > > new authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential > hopefuls > > > > > Hillary > > > > > > > Rodham > > > > > > > > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John > Edwards, > > > > have > > > > > > > > called for > > > > > > > > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a > handful > > > of > > > > > > > Republican > > > > > > > > > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal > really > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > intimidation > > > > > > > > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " > said > > > > Sen. > > > > > > > Sheldon > > > > > > > > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who > > > spent > > > > > much > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released > by > > > the > > > > > > > Justice > > > > > > > > > > Department. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred > Fielding, > > > told > > > > > > > lawmakers > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl > Rove, > > > > former > > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but > only > > > on > > > > the > > > > > > > > president's > > > > > > > > > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an > oath " > > > and > > > > > > > without a > > > > > > > > > > > transcript. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually > > > > unprecedented > > > > > > and > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the > > > > information > > > > > it > > > > > > > needs > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward > and > > > > find > > > > > > > the right > > > > > > > > > > > information, they ought to accept what I > proposed, " > > > > Bush > > > > > > > said. " If > > > > > > > > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then > the > > > > > rejection > > > > > > > of this > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for > the > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > people to > > > > > > > > > > > see. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court > any > > > > > attempt > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > subpoena > > > > > > > > > > > White House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in > constant > > > > fear > > > > > of > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > hauled > > > > > > > > > > > before various committees to discuss internal > > > > > > > deliberations, the > > > > > > > > > > > president would not receive candid advice and > the > > > > > American > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the > > > > situation > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > gotten to > > > > > > > > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., > for > > > you. > > > > > You > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate > probe > > > > > into > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > firings, > > > > > > > > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the > White > > > > > House: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk > to > > > > them, > > > > > > > but not > > > > > > > > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom > of > > > what > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > > > > here. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally > > > > > required > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > tell the > > > > > > > > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of > their > > > > > > > comments, " it > > > > > > > > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they > would > > > be > > > > > > under > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > kind > > > > > > > > > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few > hours > > > > > after > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > spoke > > > > > > > > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call- > their > > > > first > > > > > > > > > conversation > > > > > > > > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes > by his > > > > > > > longtime > > > > > > > > friend > > > > > > > > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for > > > Gonzales' > > > > > > > ouster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews > with > > > > Rove, > > > > > > > Miers, > > > > > > > > > deputy > > > > > > > > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott > > > > > Jennings, > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > deputy to > > > > > > > > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who > > > works > > > > > for > > > > > > > Rove. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted > > > > without > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > need for > > > > > > > > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or > the > > > > > > subsequent > > > > > > > > issuance > > > > > > > > > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the > > > > Senate > > > > > and > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking > Republicans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice > > > > > Department " do > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > reflect > > > > > > > > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to > interfere > > > with > > > > a > > > > > > > pending or > > > > > > > > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other > > > > improper > > > > > > > reason. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven > contributed > > > to > > > > > this > > > > > > > repo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another > health > > > > > > incident > > > > > > > > today. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because > of > > > the > > > > > > scandal > > > > > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > > > > > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General > this > > > > > morning > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > confirm his > > > > > > > > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for > him to > > > > > resign > > > > > > > or be > > > > > > > > > > removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary > Committee > > > > has > > > > > > > insisted > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the > President, > > > > testify > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > oath > > > > > > > > > > > > before the committee about his role in the > > > firings > > > > of > > > > > > > eight US > > > > > > > > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to > > > have > > > > him > > > > > > > > > interviewed but > > > > > > > > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US > > > Presidency > > > > are > > > > > > > > > consistent with > > > > > > > > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 > Sun > > > > and > > > > > > H2, > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > well as > > > > > > > > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 > Sun > > > and > > > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, > > > > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in > leg > > > > with > > > > > > clot > > > > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment > after > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > with blood clot > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with > clot > > > > > > > discovered in > > > > > > > > > > February > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after > treatment > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney > > > went > > > > to > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday > morning > > > after > > > > > > > > experiencing > > > > > > > > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a > blood > > > > clot > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > discovered a > > > > > > > > > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was > > > asked > > > > to > > > > > > > return > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the > > > deep > > > > > > venous > > > > > > > > > thrombosis, > > > > > > > > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan > > > McGinn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or > > > > complication > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > clot, " > > > > > > > > > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was > > > found > > > > to > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > therapeutic. > > > > > > > > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, > and > > > the > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > course of > > > > > > > > > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume > his > > > > > normal > > > > > > > > > schedule, she > > > > > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a > > > blood > > > > > clot > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the vice > > > > > > > > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that > he > > > > likely > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > have to be > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for > > > several > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time > > > that > > > > the > > > > > > > > > 66-year-old had > > > > > > > > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after > > > > feeling > > > > > > minor > > > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood > clot - > > > - > > > > > > > called a > > > > > > > > deep > > > > > > > > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can > become > > > > > > killers > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is > > > called a > > > > > > > pulmonary > > > > > > > > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an > > > estimated > > > > 2 > > > > > > > million > > > > > > > > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after > spending > > > long > > > > > > > periods > > > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul > airline > > > > > flights. > > > > > > > > > Cheney had > > > > > > > > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a > nine- > > > day, > > > > > > > > > round-the-world > > > > > > > > > > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related > > > problems > > > > > over > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in > 2005 > > > to > > > > > > repair > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > kind of > > > > > > > > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery > > > that > > > > can > > > > > > > burst > > > > > > > > > if left > > > > > > > > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, > > > quadruple > > > > > > bypass > > > > > > > > > surgery, > > > > > > > > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an > > > operation > > > > to > > > > > > > implant a > > > > > > > > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the > Vice > > > > > > > President, the > > > > > > > > > > perjury > > > > > > > > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the > resignation > > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Secretary of > > > > > > > > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems > > > > facing > > > > > the > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated > > > > > > > congressional > > > > > > > > > > hearings on > > > > > > > > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim > > > they > > > > > were > > > > > > > > fired for > > > > > > > > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat > by > > > > > several > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > military > > > > > > > > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As > that > > > > > were > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > enough, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the background to these more recent > > > developments > > > > is > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > ongoing > > > > > > > > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and > civilian > > > > > > > > casulaties. The > > > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > all at > > > > > > > > > > once are > > > > > > > > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions > > > > > involving > > > > > > > both the > > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice > > > President > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > had been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, > after > > > > > > returning > > > > > > > > from a > > > > > > > > > > > > > grueling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health > setback > > > > raises > > > > > > > > > questions about > > > > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job > but > > > > > also > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > fitness to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President > Bush > > > > for > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > reason is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to > Vice > > > > > > President > > > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political > > > scandal. > > > > > Many > > > > > > > see the > > > > > > > > > > aide as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the > Vice > > > > > > > President. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent > with > > > > the > > > > > > > > transit and > > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA > USA > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood > > > clot > > > > in > > > > > > his > > > > > > > leg > > > > > > > > > and is > > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, > his > > > > office > > > > > > > has said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower > left > > > leg > > > > on > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work > after > > > the > > > > > > > > examination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning > > > > > medication > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac > > > > problems. > > > > > He > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > suffered > > > > > > > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate > heartbeat in > > > > 2001 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis > (DVT) - > > > > are > > > > > > > often > > > > > > > > > associated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the > > > > reduced > > > > > air > > > > > > > > > pressure and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of > > > > inactivity > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > dehydration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots > themselves > > > are > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > life-threatening > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become > wedged in > > > > the > > > > > > > lungs or > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be > fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA > leak > > > case > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " > Libby, > > > a > > > > > > > former top > > > > > > > > > aide to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted > on > > > > > Tuesday > > > > > > > of four > > > > > > > > > > counts > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury > during > > > an > > > > > > > > investigation > > > > > > > > > > tied > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys > promptly > > > > > said > > > > > > he > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > seek a > > > > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of > lying to > > > > the > > > > > > FBI > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the probe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a > CIA > > > > > analyst > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > 2003. He > > > > > > > > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense > > > > attorney > > > > > > > Theodore > > > > > > > > > Wells > > > > > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would > > > > appeal > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Dear friends, The problems for the close associates of President Bush continue. Paul Wolfowitz, President of the World Bank, is also taking his lumps these days for acts considered improper. Wolfowitz is considered one of the architechts of the War in Iraq. Gonzales at the Justice Department seems to have weathered the storm. The aspects with regard to the obstacles faced by the President are about to reach their peak. However, the aspect of Jupiter to Saturn is yet to become exact. The nodes, which are now again moving, are also about to become exactly conjunct the MEP of the chart. We have about two more weeks of difficult transits to witness. So, a lot could still happen. As an aside, the problem with the US Congress being obstructionist concerning foreign policy initiatives of a sitting President is apparently nothing new. This is emerging from a reading of the book by Niall Ferguson, Colossus. This feature of American political life is consistent with L8 Saturn aspecting L2 Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes, Thor Agency investigating Rove's political operation POSTED: 9:51 p.m. EDT, April 24, 2007 Story Highlights • Federal agency investigating Karl Rove and other White House officials • Presentations made by White House aides might have violated Hatch Act • Hatch Act protects federal employees from political coercion • Agency also investigating GOP e-mail accounts, attorney firings From Ed Henry, CNN Washington Bureau WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A small federal agency responsible for safeguarding federal employees from political coercion has launched an extensive investigation into the activities of the White House's political operation and its architect, Karl Rove. The U.S. Office of Special Counsel is looking into whether Rove -- President Bush's longtime trusted political strategist -- or other White House aides violated federal law by making political presentations to government employees in the run-up to last year's midterm elections. " We will do a thorough job. We will not leave any stone unturned, " said Scott Bloch, a Kansas lawyer appointed by Bush to head the agency in 2003. " We will be fair, we will be impartial, and we will be thorough. " Bloch confirmed that Rove will be a focus of his investigation. " Mr. Rove is a respected individual in the White House, and we plan to do our job with professionalism, " he said. SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Bush Won't Accept Iraq War Timetable > Apr 24 12:29 PM US/Eastern > By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer > > WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush, standing firmly against a timetable > for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq, said Tuesday that he will veto > the latest war spending bill taking shape in Congress. " I'm > disappointed that the Democratic leadership has chosen this course, " > Bush said. " They chose to make a political statement, " he said. > " That's their right but it is wrong for our troops and it's wrong for > our country. To accept the bill proposed by the Democratic leadership > would be to accept a policy that directly contradicts the judgment of > our military commanders. " > > House and Senate Democratic appropriators agreed Monday on a $124 > billion bill that would fund the Iraq war but order troops to begin > leaving by Oct. 1 with the goal of completing the pullout six months > later. Democrats would need a two-thirds majority to override a > presidential veto. Democrats said they won't back down and pointed to > past remarks by Gen. David Petraeus, the new Iraq commander, that > security in Iraq requires a political solution. Senate Majority Leader > Harry Reid, D-Nev., who says the war in Iraq is " lost, " likened Bush > to President Lyndon Johnson, saying Johnson ordered troop escalations > in Vietnam in an attempt " to save his political legacy " only to watch > U.S. casualties climb steadily. > > Bush said U.S. troops should not be caught in the middle of a showdown > between the White House and Congress. " Yesterday, Democratic leaders > announced that they planned to send me a bill that will fund our > troops only if we agree to handcuff our generals, add billions of > dollars of unrelated spending and begin to pull out of Iraq by an > arbitrary date, " Bush said on the South Lawn. He said the bill would > mandate the withdrawal of U.S. troops beginning as early as July 1 and > no later than Oct. 1, despite the fact that Petraeus has not yet > received all the reinforcements he has said he needs in the latest > military buildup to help secure Baghdad and the troubled Anbar Province. > > Democrats have argued that the election that left Democrats in control > of Congress was a referendum for a change of strategy in Iraq. Bush > used the same election results to argue his point. > > " The American people did not vote for failure, " he said. " That is > precisely what the Democratic leadership's bill would guarantee. " It's > not too late for Congress to do the right thing. " > > [snip] > > Under the nonbinding timeline, all combat troops would be withdrawn by > April 1, 2008. > > [snip] > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > More problems for the President this week. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > Congress set to defy Bush on Iraq war > > Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:08pm ET > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A fight between the U.S. Congress and > > President George W. Bush over the Iraq war is set to come to a head > > this week when Democrats are expected to send him $100 billion to pay > > for continuing combat while setting timetables for withdrawing troops. > > Bush has promised to veto any bill setting dates for removing U.S. > > combat soldiers from the Iraq war, now in its fifth year.But when a > > Democratic-controlled panel of Senate and House of Representatives > > members meets on Monday to iron out differences between their > > respective bills, the product is expected to contain 2008 withdrawal > > dates. > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > A relentless barrage of problems continues to land in the lap of > > > President Bush. > > > > > > 1. A top ranking Democrat has publically announced that he directly > > > told President Bush that the war in Iraq is lost " politically, > > > militarily and economically " . > > > > > > 2. A senator has also demanded that the head of the Justice > > > Department, Gonzales, resign. Earlier Gonzales personally apologised > > > for the firings of the 8 US justices, thereby assuming > > responsibility > > > for the fiasco. > > > > > > The problems should be even greater next week in light of the > > transits > > > impacting the strength of transit and natal Sun in the SAMVA USA > > > chart. We will soon see. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > Iraq war is 'lost': US Democrat leader > > > Apr 19 02:45 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > The war in Iraq " is lost " and a US troop surge is failing to bring > > > peace to the country, the leader of the Democratic majority in the > > US > > > Congress, Harry Reid, said Thursday. " I believe ... that this war is > > > lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by > > the > > > extreme violence in Iraq this week, " Reid told journalists. Reid > > said > > > he had delivered the same message to US President George W. Bush on > > > Wednesday, when the US president met with senior lawmakers to > > discuss > > > how to end a standoff over an emergency war funding bill. " I know I > > > was the odd guy out at the White House, but I told him at least what > > > he needed to hear ... I believe the war at this stage can only be > > won > > > diplomatically, politically and economically. " Congress is seeking > > to > > > tie funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to a timetable to > > > withdraw US troops from Iraq next year, but Bush has vowed to veto > > any > > > such bill and no breakthrough was reported from the White House > > talks. > > > Bush on Thursday was addressing an Ohio town hall meeting and > > > defending the war on terror launched in the wake of the September > > 11, > > > 2001 attacks. " It is the most solemn duty of our country, is to > > > protect our country from harm, " Bush told the invited audience in > > > Tipp, Ohio. > > > > > > " A lesson learned was that -- at least in my opinion -- that in > > order > > > to protect us, we must aggressively pursue the enemy and defeat them > > > elsewhere so that we do not have to face them here. " > > > > > > 2. > > > Republican senator calls for Gonzales to quit > > > POSTED: 4:14 p.m. EDT, April 19, 2007 > > > Story Highlights > > > • NEW: Republican Sen. Coburn urges Gonzales to resign > > > • Gonzales: Alleging partisanship is an attack on career Justice > > Dept. > > > employees > > > • Gonzales says he'll resign if he can no longer be an effective > > leader > > > • Sen. Arlen Specter questions attorney general on extent of > > involvement > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales confronted a > > > fresh call for his resignation from a fellow Republican Thursday as > > he > > > struggled to survive a bipartisan Senate challenge to his > > credibility > > > in the case of eight fired prosecutors. Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom > > > Coburn told Gonzales that the situation was handled incompetently > > and > > > said there should be consequences. " The communication was atrocious. > > > It was inconsistent -- it's generous to say that there was > > > misstatements; it's a generous statement. And I believe you ought to > > > suffer the consequences that these others have suffered, " Coburn > > said. > > > " And I believe the best way to put this behind us is your > > > resignation. " Coburn is the first Republican on the Senate Judiciary > > > Committee to call for Gonzales' resignation. > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > The problems facing the US Presidency are still numerous, and > > don´t > > > > seem to be fading away: > > > > > > > > - The death toll of US troops in Iraq keeps on mounting. > > > > - The head of the Justice Department, Gonzales, who has been > > strongly > > > > backed by President Bush, in his recent problems over the firings > > of > > > > justices, is again in hot water. Emails now show that he > > suggested > > > > replacing the justices one year before they were let go. This > > brings > > > > the matter right to his doorstep. If he is forced to step down > > that > > > > would be a setback for the President. > > > > - Another close associate of President Bush, Wolfowitz, head of > > the > > > > World Bank, is now in hot water over the pay raise he arranged > > for > > > > his girlfriend. While the scandal is not as big as some others it > > is > > > > being seized upon to try to get rid of this appointy of President > > > > Bush. Many countries were upset when a symbol of US arrogance and > > > > unilateral actions of the US in the world was appointed to this > > body > > > > and would like to get rid of him. If they succeed it would be a > > > > setback for President Bush. > > > > - a story is now in the news that 5 million emails in the White > > House > > > > are missing. The loss of emails came to light when an inquiry was > > > > launched into allegations that Karl Rove, the chief political > > advisor > > > > to the President, had used offical email for political purposes, > > > > which is banned by law. If the allegations are proven, it would > > be > > > > another setback for the President. > > > > > > > > In other words, there are continuing problems for President Bush, > > > > which is not surprising in view of the transits in the SAMVA USA > > > > chart, notably the aspect of transit L8 Saturn to natal L2 Sun. > > The > > > > afflictions involving transit L6 Jupiter and L8 Saturn are making > > > > this aspect more difficult. In general, the difficult aspects > > will > > > > only become more difficult in the coming four weeks or so. One > > > > helpful transit is that L2 Sun has now entered the sign Aries > > (and > > > > H10) where it is exalted. While that would ordinarily be likely > > to > > > > help the US President, L10 Mars is now in H8 and about to become > > > > conjunct transit Rahu. This would undermine the strength of the > > Sun > > > > in H10. Hence, the transit of the Sun may actually only add to > > the > > > > difficulty of problems facing President Bush in the coming week > > or > > > > two. We will see how things turn out. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > White House: Millions of e-mails may be missing > > > > POSTED: 7:07 p.m. EDT, April 13, 2007 > > > > Story Highlights• NEW: White House spokeswoman says 5 million > > > > official e-mails may be missing > > > > • White House admits it should have kept e-mails on private GOP > > system > > > > • Chairman of Senate Judiciary Committee doubts e-mails are > > deleted > > > > • Committee investigating whether U.S. attorneys' firings were > > > > politically motivated > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Millions of White House e-mails may be > > missing, > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino acknowledged Friday. > > > > > > > > " I wouldn't rule out that there were a potential 5 million e- > > mails > > > > lost, " Perino told reporters. > > > > > > > > The administration was already facing sharp questions about > > whether > > > > top presidential advisers including Karl Rove improperly used > > > > Republican National Committee e-mail that the White House said > > later > > > > disappeared. > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > The following six news headlines on DrudgeReport.com today > > about > > > > the > > > > > policy debate in the USA over the war in Iraq give a > > fascinating > > > > > overview of the current political situation. > > > > > > > > > > Democrats Escalate Iraq War Debate... > > > > > Reid May Move to Cut Funds... > > > > > CHENEY: MILITARY ANSWERS TO ONE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF... > > > > > House Republicans Have Votes To Sustain Veto... > > > > > Hillary Challenges Veto Threat... > > > > > Bush Rips Dems Over War Funding... > > > > > > > > > > These news headlines show clearly what an epic power struggle > > has > > > > > developed between the Democratically controlled Congress > > > > (Legislative > > > > > branch of government) and the Republican controlled White House > > > > > (Executive branch of government). The problems for President > > Bush > > > > are > > > > > indeed significant at this time. > > > > > > > > > > These problems are clearly reflected in the SAMVA USA chart, > > with > > > > > transit L8 Saturn having reached 24° 24' Cancer H1 in > > opposition to > > > > > natal L2 Sun at 23° 45' Capricorn. Saturn will become > > stationary > > > > at > > > > > 24° 11' Cancer in the third week of April, In terms of this > > aspect, > > > > > the greatest strain for the indications of the Sun should be > > felt. > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned in other posts there are numerous other aspects to > > > > > consider, not least the stationary nodes impact on the house > > MEPs > > > > and > > > > > natal L4 Venus in H6 and the impact of transit L6 Jupiter in H5 > > on > > > > > transit L8 Saturn in H1. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Two news items have appeared this weekend signalling > > difficulty > > > > for > > > > > > President Bush, also related to 4th house matters. One has to > > do > > > > > with > > > > > > emission of greenhouse gasses. The other story has to do with > > > > > > regulations concerning logging in wildlife areas. Bush had > > > > proposed > > > > > > more freedom, but the judge insisted that environmental > > > > > > considerations be brought into the picture, reversing the > > > > > regulation. > > > > > > Such stories show the impact of the present transits in the > > SAMVA > > > > > USA > > > > > > chart with regard to L2 Sun and L4 Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > Split court rules against Bush on greenhouse gases > > > > > > POSTED: 10:50 a.m. EDT, April 2, 2007 > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ordered the federal > > > > government > > > > > > on Monday to take a fresh look at regulating carbon dioxide > > > > > emissions > > > > > > from cars, a rebuke to Bush administration policy on global > > > > warming. > > > > > > > > > > > > In a 5-4 decision, the court said the Clean Air Act gives the > > > > > > Environmental Protection Agency the authority to regulate the > > > > > > emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from > > cars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/02/scotus.greenhousegas.ap/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional clarification. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, there is an unusual amount of adverse transit > > impacts > > > > > > active > > > > > > > at present in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by > > you > > > > and > > > > > > > take part in > > > > > > > > making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting > > > > > situations > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at > > the > > > > > > highest > > > > > > > level in > > > > > > > > US. I was partially looking into the aspect of conflicts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional insights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit > > > > nodes > > > > > on > > > > > > H2 > > > > > > > > MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in > > turn > > > > its > > > > > > > > affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to > > explain > > > > these > > > > > > > > events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on > > > > natal > > > > > L2 > > > > > > > > Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8 > > Saturn > > > > on > > > > > > > > natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the > > > > indications > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts > > and > > > > the > > > > > > > > close > > > > > > > > > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu > > axis > > > > > are > > > > > > > > showing the > > > > > > > > > impact of current affliction in the chart in a > > pronounced > > > > > > manner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The > > > > Democratically > > > > > > > > > controlled Congress since last November has begun to > > show > > > > its > > > > > > > teeth > > > > > > > > > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the > > > > > > President, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has > > been > > > > > > passed > > > > > > > > > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from > > > > Iraq. > > > > > > > > > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared > > the > > > > US > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President > > now > > > > has > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in > > both > > > > > > > chambers > > > > > > > > > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a > > > > > development > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even > > > > > further, > > > > > > > > > adding to the problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and > > period > > > > > > > > dynmamics > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn > > in > > > > H1 > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart > > Saturn > > > > > rules > > > > > > > > > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > > > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such > > affliction. > > > > > > > > Moreover, > > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of > > the 'executive' > > > > > and > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In > > coming > > > > > > days > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the > > > > conditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This and other political developments show clearly that > > the > > > > > > > > prediction > > > > > > > > > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the > > > > Spring > > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > > is being realised. The chart also suggests the > > intensity of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > > half of May. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto > > > > > > > > > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from > > funding > > > > bill > > > > > > > > > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes > > failure > > > > > in > > > > > > > Iraq > > > > > > > > > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, > > sets > > > > > > March > > > > > > > > 2008 > > > > > > > > > deadline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the > > Democratic- > > > > led > > > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for > > U.S. > > > > > > > > withdrawal > > > > > > > > > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds > > > > majority > > > > > > > needed > > > > > > > > > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a > > sign > > > > of > > > > > > > growing > > > > > > > > > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of > > the > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American > > > > people, " > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > Sen. > > > > > > > > > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be > > > > > heeded > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > president and by the government of Iraq. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin > > > > > withdrawing > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next > > > > March. > > > > > A > > > > > > > > > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on > > training > > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, > > said > > > > that > > > > > > > > > effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo > > to > > > > our > > > > > > > enemies > > > > > > > > > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the > > day we > > > > > > > leave, " > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we > > > > plan > > > > > to > > > > > > > walk > > > > > > > > > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we > > > > leave > > > > > > > > behind. " > > > > > > > > > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 > > billion > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > approved for this year and would drive the price tag > > for the > > > > > > > > > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. > > The > > > > > > Pentagon > > > > > > > > > says it would have to start diverting funds from other > > > > > programs > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives > > with > > > > an > > > > > > > August > > > > > > > > > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any > > > > bill > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he > > considers > > > > > > > > extraneous > > > > > > > > > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure > > > > > > > as " political > > > > > > > > > theater. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that > > threat > > > > > > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in > > the > > > > > > field, > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This > > and > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at > > > > grave > > > > > > > risk, > > > > > > > > > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's > > > > plans > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. > > commander > > > > > > outline > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > concerns Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority > > fell > > > > > short > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. > > > > > > Republicans > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous > > statements > > > > of > > > > > > > > > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would > > not > > > > > use > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this > > case > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > " it's important to get the money to the troops. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call > > for a > > > > > > > pullout > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy > > mistake of > > > > > our > > > > > > > > time " > > > > > > > > > to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it > > is > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White > > House > > > > > > > hustling > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a > > > > > possible > > > > > > > tie. > > > > > > > > > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid > > > > acknowledged, " We > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > know how it's going to turn out. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and > > Gordon > > > > > > Smith > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP- > > backed > > > > > > > amendment. > > > > > > > > > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people are demanding that we develop a > > > > > bipartisan > > > > > > > > > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit > > strategy > > > > from > > > > > > > Iraq, " > > > > > > > > > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential > > > > candidate. " If > > > > > we > > > > > > > > fail > > > > > > > > > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, > > > > > America > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will > > have > > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > recovering from in the years ahead. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined > > Connecticut > > > > > > > independent > > > > > > > > > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. > > And > > > > > > Virginia > > > > > > > > > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan > > to > > > > > send > > > > > > > > 30,000 > > > > > > > > > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on > > > > > Tuesday's > > > > > > > vote, > > > > > > > > > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the > > bugle > > > > of > > > > > > > > retreat. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in > > Iraq > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > coalition forces have begun to take the first step > > > > > backwards, " > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services > > > > > > > > Committee. " We > > > > > > > > > cannot take that step -- not at this time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear David and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the > > US > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > clearly above normal levels these days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for > > the > > > > > > > > military. It > > > > > > > > > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is > > opposite > > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > L8 > > > > > > > > > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine > > officers, > > > > > > including > > > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in > > the > > > > > > aftermath > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, > > AP > > > > > reports > > > > > > > > citing > > > > > > > > > > senior defense officials. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " > > <david@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear thor... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > > ---- > > > > -- > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary > > J. > > > > > > Steven > > > > > > > > Griles > > > > > > > > > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest- > > ranking > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > > administration official convicted in the Jack > > Abramoff > > > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > > scandal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior > > Department > > > > > > admitted > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his > > > > > > relationship > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought > > Griles' > > > > > > > > > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's > > Indian > > > > > > tribal > > > > > > > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for > > testifying > > > > > > > falsely > > > > > > > > > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on > > November 2, > > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's > > > > investigators > > > > > on > > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > > 20, 2005. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the > > > > > > > > responsibility for > > > > > > > > > > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles > > said > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, > > they > > > > > must > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place > > to > > > > > > decide > > > > > > > > > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. > > I > > > > > > > apologize > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > cosmologer > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal > > Sun > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > SAMVA USA > > > > > > > > > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of > > obstacles > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > thrown in > > > > > > > > > > > the way of President Bush. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > > > > > > > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to > > require > > > > > > > > President > > > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall > > 2008, > > > > > > despite > > > > > > > > a White > > > > > > > > > > > House veto threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted > > > > Friday > > > > > to > > > > > > > > order > > > > > > > > > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from > > Iraq > > > > > next > > > > > > > > year, a > > > > > > > > > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers > > struggle > > > > and > > > > > > > > Congress' > > > > > > > > > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's > > policy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers > > voted > > > > 218- > > > > > > 212, > > > > > > > > mostly > > > > > > > > > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill > > requiring > > > > > that > > > > > > > > combat > > > > > > > > > > > operations cease before September 2008, or > > earlier if > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > > > > government does not meet certain requirements. > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > it was > > > > > > > > > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep > > last > > > > > > > > November, > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the > > > > president's > > > > > > > > conduct of > > > > > > > > > > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D- > > > > > Calif. " The > > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > > > people see the reality of the war, the president > > does > > > > > > not. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush > > warned > > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday to > > > > > > > > > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify > > about the > > > > > > > > firings of > > > > > > > > > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not > > under > > > > oath > > > > > or > > > > > > > > risk a > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not > > > > back > > > > > > down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift > > and > > > > > firm: > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > > said they > > > > > > > > > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as > > > > > Wednesday > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > > > > > House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under > > oath. > > > > > > That's > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > formula > > > > > > > > > > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, > > > > > chairman > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the > > White > > > > > House, > > > > > > > > said, > > > > > > > > > > " We will > > > > > > > > > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition > > > > aimed > > > > > at > > > > > > > > honorable > > > > > > > > > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a > > reasonable > > > > way > > > > > to > > > > > > > > avoid an > > > > > > > > > > > > impasse. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him > > and > > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > natural to > > > > > > > > > > > > consider replacing them. " There is no > > indication > > > > that > > > > > > > > anybody did > > > > > > > > > > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, > > Alberto > > > > > > > Gonzales, > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > boost > > > > > > > > > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day > > with > > > > a > > > > > > > public > > > > > > > > > > statement > > > > > > > > > > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales > > of > > > > his > > > > > > > > authority to > > > > > > > > > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate > > > > > > confirmation. > > > > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House > > > > purged > > > > > > > eight > > > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading > > political > > > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot > > Act > > > > gave > > > > > > > > > Gonzales the > > > > > > > > > > > > new authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential > > hopefuls > > > > > > Hillary > > > > > > > > Rodham > > > > > > > > > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John > > Edwards, > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > called for > > > > > > > > > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a > > handful > > > > of > > > > > > > > Republican > > > > > > > > > > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal > > really > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > intimidation > > > > > > > > > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " > > said > > > > > Sen. > > > > > > > > Sheldon > > > > > > > > > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who > > > > spent > > > > > > much > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released > > by > > > > the > > > > > > > > Justice > > > > > > > > > > > Department. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred > > Fielding, > > > > told > > > > > > > > lawmakers > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl > > Rove, > > > > > former > > > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but > > only > > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > president's > > > > > > > > > > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an > > oath " > > > > and > > > > > > > > without a > > > > > > > > > > > > transcript. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually > > > > > unprecedented > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the > > > > > information > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > needs > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward > > and > > > > > find > > > > > > > > the right > > > > > > > > > > > > information, they ought to accept what I > > proposed, " > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > said. " If > > > > > > > > > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then > > the > > > > > > rejection > > > > > > > > of this > > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for > > the > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > > people to > > > > > > > > > > > > see. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court > > any > > > > > > attempt > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > subpoena > > > > > > > > > > > > White House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in > > constant > > > > > fear > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > hauled > > > > > > > > > > > > before various committees to discuss internal > > > > > > > > deliberations, the > > > > > > > > > > > > president would not receive candid advice and > > the > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the > > > > > situation > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > gotten to > > > > > > > > > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., > > for > > > > you. > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > > > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate > > probe > > > > > > into > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > firings, > > > > > > > > > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the > > White > > > > > > House: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk > > to > > > > > them, > > > > > > > > but not > > > > > > > > > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom > > of > > > > what > > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > > > > > here. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally > > > > > > required > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > tell the > > > > > > > > > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of > > their > > > > > > > > comments, " it > > > > > > > > > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they > > would > > > > be > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > kind > > > > > > > > > > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few > > hours > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > spoke > > > > > > > > > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call- > > their > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > conversation > > > > > > > > > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes > > by his > > > > > > > > longtime > > > > > > > > > friend > > > > > > > > > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for > > > > Gonzales' > > > > > > > > ouster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews > > with > > > > > Rove, > > > > > > > > Miers, > > > > > > > > > > deputy > > > > > > > > > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott > > > > > > Jennings, > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > deputy to > > > > > > > > > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who > > > > works > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > Rove. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted > > > > > without > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > need for > > > > > > > > > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or > > the > > > > > > > subsequent > > > > > > > > > issuance > > > > > > > > > > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the > > > > > Senate > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking > > Republicans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice > > > > > > Department " do > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > reflect > > > > > > > > > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to > > interfere > > > > with > > > > > a > > > > > > > > pending or > > > > > > > > > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other > > > > > improper > > > > > > > > reason. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven > > contributed > > > > to > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > repo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another > > health > > > > > > > incident > > > > > > > > > today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > scandal > > > > > > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General > > this > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > confirm his > > > > > > > > > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for > > him to > > > > > > resign > > > > > > > > or be > > > > > > > > > > > removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary > > Committee > > > > > has > > > > > > > > insisted > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the > > President, > > > > > testify > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > oath > > > > > > > > > > > > > before the committee about his role in the > > > > firings > > > > > of > > > > > > > > eight US > > > > > > > > > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to > > > > have > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > interviewed but > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US > > > > Presidency > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > consistent with > > > > > > > > > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 > > Sun > > > > > and > > > > > > > H2, > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > well as > > > > > > > > > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 > > Sun > > > > and > > > > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in > > leg > > > > > with > > > > > > > clot > > > > > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment > > after > > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > > in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > > with blood clot > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with > > clot > > > > > > > > discovered in > > > > > > > > > > > February > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after > > treatment > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney > > > > went > > > > > to > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday > > morning > > > > after > > > > > > > > > experiencing > > > > > > > > > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a > > blood > > > > > clot > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > discovered a > > > > > > > > > > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was > > > > asked > > > > > to > > > > > > > > return > > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the > > > > deep > > > > > > > venous > > > > > > > > > > thrombosis, > > > > > > > > > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan > > > > McGinn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or > > > > > complication > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > clot, " > > > > > > > > > > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was > > > > found > > > > > to > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > therapeutic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, > > and > > > > the > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > course of > > > > > > > > > > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume > > his > > > > > > normal > > > > > > > > > > schedule, she > > > > > > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a > > > > blood > > > > > > clot > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the vice > > > > > > > > > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that > > he > > > > > likely > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > have to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for > > > > several > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time > > > > that > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > 66-year-old had > > > > > > > > > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > minor > > > > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood > > clot - > > > > - > > > > > > > > called a > > > > > > > > > deep > > > > > > > > > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can > > become > > > > > > > killers > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is > > > > called a > > > > > > > > pulmonary > > > > > > > > > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an > > > > estimated > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > million > > > > > > > > > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after > > spending > > > > long > > > > > > > > periods > > > > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul > > airline > > > > > > flights. > > > > > > > > > > Cheney had > > > > > > > > > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a > > nine- > > > > day, > > > > > > > > > > round-the-world > > > > > > > > > > > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related > > > > problems > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in > > 2005 > > > > to > > > > > > > repair > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > kind of > > > > > > > > > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery > > > > that > > > > > can > > > > > > > > burst > > > > > > > > > > if left > > > > > > > > > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, > > > > quadruple > > > > > > > bypass > > > > > > > > > > surgery, > > > > > > > > > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an > > > > operation > > > > > to > > > > > > > > implant a > > > > > > > > > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the > > Vice > > > > > > > > President, the > > > > > > > > > > > perjury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the > > resignation > > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Secretary of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems > > > > > facing > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated > > > > > > > > congressional > > > > > > > > > > > hearings on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim > > > > they > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > fired for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat > > by > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > > military > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As > > that > > > > > > were > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > enough, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the background to these more recent > > > > developments > > > > > is > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > ongoing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and > > civilian > > > > > > > > > casulaties. The > > > > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > all at > > > > > > > > > > > once are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions > > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > both the > > > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice > > > > President > > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > > had been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, > > after > > > > > > > returning > > > > > > > > > from a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grueling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health > > setback > > > > > raises > > > > > > > > > > questions about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job > > but > > > > > > also > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > fitness to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President > > Bush > > > > > for > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > reason is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to > > Vice > > > > > > > President > > > > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political > > > > scandal. > > > > > > Many > > > > > > > > see the > > > > > > > > > > > aide as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the > > Vice > > > > > > > > President. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > transit and > > > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA > > USA > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood > > > > clot > > > > > in > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > leg > > > > > > > > > > and is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, > > his > > > > > office > > > > > > > > has said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower > > left > > > > leg > > > > > on > > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work > > after > > > > the > > > > > > > > > examination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning > > > > > > medication > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac > > > > > problems. > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > suffered > > > > > > > > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate > > heartbeat in > > > > > 2001 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis > > (DVT) - > > > > > are > > > > > > > > often > > > > > > > > > > associated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the > > > > > reduced > > > > > > air > > > > > > > > > > pressure and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of > > > > > inactivity > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > dehydration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots > > themselves > > > > are > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > life-threatening > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become > > wedged in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lungs or > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be > > fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA > > leak > > > > case > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " > > Libby, > > > > a > > > > > > > > former top > > > > > > > > > > aide to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted > > on > > > > > > Tuesday > > > > > > > > of four > > > > > > > > > > > counts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury > > during > > > > an > > > > > > > > > investigation > > > > > > > > > > > tied > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys > > promptly > > > > > > said > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > seek a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of > > lying to > > > > > the > > > > > > > FBI > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the probe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a > > CIA > > > > > > analyst > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > 2003. He > > > > > > > > > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense > > > > > attorney > > > > > > > > Theodore > > > > > > > > > > Wells > > > > > > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would > > > > > appeal > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Hello my dear Thor, The events in the last one and a half month show without any doubt that SAMVA US chart with Cancer ascendant responds best of all charts proposed. Best wishes. - " cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:24 PM Re: Problems for the US Presidency Dear friends, The problems for the close associates of President Bush continue. Paul Wolfowitz, President of the World Bank, is also taking his lumps these days for acts considered improper. Wolfowitz is considered one of the architechts of the War in Iraq. Gonzales at the Justice Department seems to have weathered the storm. The aspects with regard to the obstacles faced by the President are about to reach their peak. However, the aspect of Jupiter to Saturn is yet to become exact. The nodes, which are now again moving, are also about to become exactly conjunct the MEP of the chart. We have about two more weeks of difficult transits to witness. So, a lot could still happen. As an aside, the problem with the US Congress being obstructionist concerning foreign policy initiatives of a sitting President is apparently nothing new. This is emerging from a reading of the book by Niall Ferguson, Colossus. This feature of American political life is consistent with L8 Saturn aspecting L2 Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes, Thor Agency investigating Rove's political operation POSTED: 9:51 p.m. EDT, April 24, 2007 Story Highlights .. Federal agency investigating Karl Rove and other White House officials .. Presentations made by White House aides might have violated Hatch Act .. Hatch Act protects federal employees from political coercion .. Agency also investigating GOP e-mail accounts, attorney firings >From Ed Henry, CNN Washington Bureau WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A small federal agency responsible for safeguarding federal employees from political coercion has launched an extensive investigation into the activities of the White House's political operation and its architect, Karl Rove. The U.S. Office of Special Counsel is looking into whether Rove -- President Bush's longtime trusted political strategist -- or other White House aides violated federal law by making political presentations to government employees in the run-up to last year's midterm elections. " We will do a thorough job. We will not leave any stone unturned, " said Scott Bloch, a Kansas lawyer appointed by Bush to head the agency in 2003. " We will be fair, we will be impartial, and we will be thorough. " Bloch confirmed that Rove will be a focus of his investigation. " Mr. Rove is a respected individual in the White House, and we plan to do our job with professionalism, " he said. SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Bush Won't Accept Iraq War Timetable > Apr 24 12:29 PM US/Eastern > By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer > > WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush, standing firmly against a timetable > for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq, said Tuesday that he will veto > the latest war spending bill taking shape in Congress. " I'm > disappointed that the Democratic leadership has chosen this course, " > Bush said. " They chose to make a political statement, " he said. > " That's their right but it is wrong for our troops and it's wrong for > our country. To accept the bill proposed by the Democratic leadership > would be to accept a policy that directly contradicts the judgment of > our military commanders. " > > House and Senate Democratic appropriators agreed Monday on a $124 > billion bill that would fund the Iraq war but order troops to begin > leaving by Oct. 1 with the goal of completing the pullout six months > later. Democrats would need a two-thirds majority to override a > presidential veto. Democrats said they won't back down and pointed to > past remarks by Gen. David Petraeus, the new Iraq commander, that > security in Iraq requires a political solution. Senate Majority Leader > Harry Reid, D-Nev., who says the war in Iraq is " lost, " likened Bush > to President Lyndon Johnson, saying Johnson ordered troop escalations > in Vietnam in an attempt " to save his political legacy " only to watch > U.S. casualties climb steadily. > > Bush said U.S. troops should not be caught in the middle of a showdown > between the White House and Congress. " Yesterday, Democratic leaders > announced that they planned to send me a bill that will fund our > troops only if we agree to handcuff our generals, add billions of > dollars of unrelated spending and begin to pull out of Iraq by an > arbitrary date, " Bush said on the South Lawn. He said the bill would > mandate the withdrawal of U.S. troops beginning as early as July 1 and > no later than Oct. 1, despite the fact that Petraeus has not yet > received all the reinforcements he has said he needs in the latest > military buildup to help secure Baghdad and the troubled Anbar Province. > > Democrats have argued that the election that left Democrats in control > of Congress was a referendum for a change of strategy in Iraq. Bush > used the same election results to argue his point. > > " The American people did not vote for failure, " he said. " That is > precisely what the Democratic leadership's bill would guarantee. " It's > not too late for Congress to do the right thing. " > > [snip] > > Under the nonbinding timeline, all combat troops would be withdrawn by > April 1, 2008. > > [snip] > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > More problems for the President this week. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > Congress set to defy Bush on Iraq war > > Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:08pm ET > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A fight between the U.S. Congress and > > President George W. Bush over the Iraq war is set to come to a head > > this week when Democrats are expected to send him $100 billion to pay > > for continuing combat while setting timetables for withdrawing troops. > > Bush has promised to veto any bill setting dates for removing U.S. > > combat soldiers from the Iraq war, now in its fifth year.But when a > > Democratic-controlled panel of Senate and House of Representatives > > members meets on Monday to iron out differences between their > > respective bills, the product is expected to contain 2008 withdrawal > > dates. > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > A relentless barrage of problems continues to land in the lap of > > > President Bush. > > > > > > 1. A top ranking Democrat has publically announced that he directly > > > told President Bush that the war in Iraq is lost " politically, > > > militarily and economically " . > > > > > > 2. A senator has also demanded that the head of the Justice > > > Department, Gonzales, resign. Earlier Gonzales personally apologised > > > for the firings of the 8 US justices, thereby assuming > > responsibility > > > for the fiasco. > > > > > > The problems should be even greater next week in light of the > > transits > > > impacting the strength of transit and natal Sun in the SAMVA USA > > > chart. We will soon see. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > Iraq war is 'lost': US Democrat leader > > > Apr 19 02:45 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > The war in Iraq " is lost " and a US troop surge is failing to bring > > > peace to the country, the leader of the Democratic majority in the > > US > > > Congress, Harry Reid, said Thursday. " I believe ... that this war is > > > lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by > > the > > > extreme violence in Iraq this week, " Reid told journalists. Reid > > said > > > he had delivered the same message to US President George W. Bush on > > > Wednesday, when the US president met with senior lawmakers to > > discuss > > > how to end a standoff over an emergency war funding bill. " I know I > > > was the odd guy out at the White House, but I told him at least what > > > he needed to hear ... I believe the war at this stage can only be > > won > > > diplomatically, politically and economically. " Congress is seeking > > to > > > tie funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to a timetable to > > > withdraw US troops from Iraq next year, but Bush has vowed to veto > > any > > > such bill and no breakthrough was reported from the White House > > talks. > > > Bush on Thursday was addressing an Ohio town hall meeting and > > > defending the war on terror launched in the wake of the September > > 11, > > > 2001 attacks. " It is the most solemn duty of our country, is to > > > protect our country from harm, " Bush told the invited audience in > > > Tipp, Ohio. > > > > > > " A lesson learned was that -- at least in my opinion -- that in > > order > > > to protect us, we must aggressively pursue the enemy and defeat them > > > elsewhere so that we do not have to face them here. " > > > > > > 2. > > > Republican senator calls for Gonzales to quit > > > POSTED: 4:14 p.m. EDT, April 19, 2007 > > > Story Highlights > > > . NEW: Republican Sen. Coburn urges Gonzales to resign > > > . Gonzales: Alleging partisanship is an attack on career Justice > > Dept. > > > employees > > > . Gonzales says he'll resign if he can no longer be an effective > > leader > > > . Sen. Arlen Specter questions attorney general on extent of > > involvement > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales confronted a > > > fresh call for his resignation from a fellow Republican Thursday as > > he > > > struggled to survive a bipartisan Senate challenge to his > > credibility > > > in the case of eight fired prosecutors. Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom > > > Coburn told Gonzales that the situation was handled incompetently > > and > > > said there should be consequences. " The communication was atrocious. > > > It was inconsistent -- it's generous to say that there was > > > misstatements; it's a generous statement. And I believe you ought to > > > suffer the consequences that these others have suffered, " Coburn > > said. > > > " And I believe the best way to put this behind us is your > > > resignation. " Coburn is the first Republican on the Senate Judiciary > > > Committee to call for Gonzales' resignation. > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > The problems facing the US Presidency are still numerous, and > > don´t > > > > seem to be fading away: > > > > > > > > - The death toll of US troops in Iraq keeps on mounting. > > > > - The head of the Justice Department, Gonzales, who has been > > strongly > > > > backed by President Bush, in his recent problems over the firings > > of > > > > justices, is again in hot water. Emails now show that he > > suggested > > > > replacing the justices one year before they were let go. This > > brings > > > > the matter right to his doorstep. If he is forced to step down > > that > > > > would be a setback for the President. > > > > - Another close associate of President Bush, Wolfowitz, head of > > the > > > > World Bank, is now in hot water over the pay raise he arranged > > for > > > > his girlfriend. While the scandal is not as big as some others it > > is > > > > being seized upon to try to get rid of this appointy of President > > > > Bush. Many countries were upset when a symbol of US arrogance and > > > > unilateral actions of the US in the world was appointed to this > > body > > > > and would like to get rid of him. If they succeed it would be a > > > > setback for President Bush. > > > > - a story is now in the news that 5 million emails in the White > > House > > > > are missing. The loss of emails came to light when an inquiry was > > > > launched into allegations that Karl Rove, the chief political > > advisor > > > > to the President, had used offical email for political purposes, > > > > which is banned by law. If the allegations are proven, it would > > be > > > > another setback for the President. > > > > > > > > In other words, there are continuing problems for President Bush, > > > > which is not surprising in view of the transits in the SAMVA USA > > > > chart, notably the aspect of transit L8 Saturn to natal L2 Sun. > > The > > > > afflictions involving transit L6 Jupiter and L8 Saturn are making > > > > this aspect more difficult. In general, the difficult aspects > > will > > > > only become more difficult in the coming four weeks or so. One > > > > helpful transit is that L2 Sun has now entered the sign Aries > > (and > > > > H10) where it is exalted. While that would ordinarily be likely > > to > > > > help the US President, L10 Mars is now in H8 and about to become > > > > conjunct transit Rahu. This would undermine the strength of the > > Sun > > > > in H10. Hence, the transit of the Sun may actually only add to > > the > > > > difficulty of problems facing President Bush in the coming week > > or > > > > two. We will see how things turn out. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > White House: Millions of e-mails may be missing > > > > POSTED: 7:07 p.m. EDT, April 13, 2007 > > > > Story Highlights. NEW: White House spokeswoman says 5 million > > > > official e-mails may be missing > > > > . White House admits it should have kept e-mails on private GOP > > system > > > > . Chairman of Senate Judiciary Committee doubts e-mails are > > deleted > > > > . Committee investigating whether U.S. attorneys' firings were > > > > politically motivated > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Millions of White House e-mails may be > > missing, > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino acknowledged Friday. > > > > > > > > " I wouldn't rule out that there were a potential 5 million e- > > mails > > > > lost, " Perino told reporters. > > > > > > > > The administration was already facing sharp questions about > > whether > > > > top presidential advisers including Karl Rove improperly used > > > > Republican National Committee e-mail that the White House said > > later > > > > disappeared. > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > The following six news headlines on DrudgeReport.com today > > about > > > > the > > > > > policy debate in the USA over the war in Iraq give a > > fascinating > > > > > overview of the current political situation. > > > > > > > > > > Democrats Escalate Iraq War Debate... > > > > > Reid May Move to Cut Funds... > > > > > CHENEY: MILITARY ANSWERS TO ONE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF... > > > > > House Republicans Have Votes To Sustain Veto... > > > > > Hillary Challenges Veto Threat... > > > > > Bush Rips Dems Over War Funding... > > > > > > > > > > These news headlines show clearly what an epic power struggle > > has > > > > > developed between the Democratically controlled Congress > > > > (Legislative > > > > > branch of government) and the Republican controlled White House > > > > > (Executive branch of government). The problems for President > > Bush > > > > are > > > > > indeed significant at this time. > > > > > > > > > > These problems are clearly reflected in the SAMVA USA chart, > > with > > > > > transit L8 Saturn having reached 24° 24' Cancer H1 in > > opposition to > > > > > natal L2 Sun at 23° 45' Capricorn. Saturn will become > > stationary > > > > at > > > > > 24° 11' Cancer in the third week of April, In terms of this > > aspect, > > > > > the greatest strain for the indications of the Sun should be > > felt. > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned in other posts there are numerous other aspects to > > > > > consider, not least the stationary nodes impact on the house > > MEPs > > > > and > > > > > natal L4 Venus in H6 and the impact of transit L6 Jupiter in H5 > > on > > > > > transit L8 Saturn in H1. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Two news items have appeared this weekend signalling > > difficulty > > > > for > > > > > > President Bush, also related to 4th house matters. One has to > > do > > > > > with > > > > > > emission of greenhouse gasses. The other story has to do with > > > > > > regulations concerning logging in wildlife areas. Bush had > > > > proposed > > > > > > more freedom, but the judge insisted that environmental > > > > > > considerations be brought into the picture, reversing the > > > > > regulation. > > > > > > Such stories show the impact of the present transits in the > > SAMVA > > > > > USA > > > > > > chart with regard to L2 Sun and L4 Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > Split court rules against Bush on greenhouse gases > > > > > > POSTED: 10:50 a.m. EDT, April 2, 2007 > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ordered the federal > > > > government > > > > > > on Monday to take a fresh look at regulating carbon dioxide > > > > > emissions > > > > > > from cars, a rebuke to Bush administration policy on global > > > > warming. > > > > > > > > > > > > In a 5-4 decision, the court said the Clean Air Act gives the > > > > > > Environmental Protection Agency the authority to regulate the > > > > > > emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from > > cars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/02/scotus.greenhousegas.ap/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional clarification. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, there is an unusual amount of adverse transit > > impacts > > > > > > active > > > > > > > at present in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by > > you > > > > and > > > > > > > take part in > > > > > > > > making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting > > > > > situations > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at > > the > > > > > > highest > > > > > > > level in > > > > > > > > US. I was partially looking into the aspect of conflicts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional insights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit > > > > nodes > > > > > on > > > > > > H2 > > > > > > > > MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in > > turn > > > > its > > > > > > > > affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to > > explain > > > > these > > > > > > > > events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on > > > > natal > > > > > L2 > > > > > > > > Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8 > > Saturn > > > > on > > > > > > > > natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the > > > > indications > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts > > and > > > > the > > > > > > > > close > > > > > > > > > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu > > axis > > > > > are > > > > > > > > showing the > > > > > > > > > impact of current affliction in the chart in a > > pronounced > > > > > > manner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The > > > > Democratically > > > > > > > > > controlled Congress since last November has begun to > > show > > > > its > > > > > > > teeth > > > > > > > > > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the > > > > > > President, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has > > been > > > > > > passed > > > > > > > > > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from > > > > Iraq. > > > > > > > > > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared > > the > > > > US > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President > > now > > > > has > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in > > both > > > > > > > chambers > > > > > > > > > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a > > > > > development > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even > > > > > further, > > > > > > > > > adding to the problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and > > period > > > > > > > > dynmamics > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn > > in > > > > H1 > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart > > Saturn > > > > > rules > > > > > > > > > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > > > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such > > affliction. > > > > > > > > Moreover, > > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of > > the 'executive' > > > > > and > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In > > coming > > > > > > days > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the > > > > conditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This and other political developments show clearly that > > the > > > > > > > > prediction > > > > > > > > > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the > > > > Spring > > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > > is being realised. The chart also suggests the > > intensity of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > > half of May. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto > > > > > > > > > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from > > funding > > > > bill > > > > > > > > > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes > > failure > > > > > in > > > > > > > Iraq > > > > > > > > > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, > > sets > > > > > > March > > > > > > > > 2008 > > > > > > > > > deadline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the > > Democratic- > > > > led > > > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for > > U.S. > > > > > > > > withdrawal > > > > > > > > > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds > > > > majority > > > > > > > needed > > > > > > > > > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a > > sign > > > > of > > > > > > > growing > > > > > > > > > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of > > the > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American > > > > people, " > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > Sen. > > > > > > > > > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be > > > > > heeded > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > president and by the government of Iraq. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin > > > > > withdrawing > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next > > > > March. > > > > > A > > > > > > > > > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on > > training > > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, > > said > > > > that > > > > > > > > > effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo > > to > > > > our > > > > > > > enemies > > > > > > > > > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the > > day we > > > > > > > leave, " > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we > > > > plan > > > > > to > > > > > > > walk > > > > > > > > > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we > > > > leave > > > > > > > > behind. " > > > > > > > > > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 > > billion > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > approved for this year and would drive the price tag > > for the > > > > > > > > > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. > > The > > > > > > Pentagon > > > > > > > > > says it would have to start diverting funds from other > > > > > programs > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives > > with > > > > an > > > > > > > August > > > > > > > > > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any > > > > bill > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he > > considers > > > > > > > > extraneous > > > > > > > > > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure > > > > > > > as " political > > > > > > > > > theater. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that > > threat > > > > > > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in > > the > > > > > > field, > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This > > and > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at > > > > grave > > > > > > > risk, > > > > > > > > > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's > > > > plans > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. > > commander > > > > > > outline > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > concerns Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority > > fell > > > > > short > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. > > > > > > Republicans > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous > > statements > > > > of > > > > > > > > > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would > > not > > > > > use > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this > > case > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > " it's important to get the money to the troops. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call > > for a > > > > > > > pullout > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy > > mistake of > > > > > our > > > > > > > > time " > > > > > > > > > to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it > > is > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White > > House > > > > > > > hustling > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a > > > > > possible > > > > > > > tie. > > > > > > > > > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid > > > > acknowledged, " We > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > know how it's going to turn out. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and > > Gordon > > > > > > Smith > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP- > > backed > > > > > > > amendment. > > > > > > > > > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people are demanding that we develop a > > > > > bipartisan > > > > > > > > > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit > > strategy > > > > from > > > > > > > Iraq, " > > > > > > > > > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential > > > > candidate. " If > > > > > we > > > > > > > > fail > > > > > > > > > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, > > > > > America > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will > > have > > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > recovering from in the years ahead. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined > > Connecticut > > > > > > > independent > > > > > > > > > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. > > And > > > > > > Virginia > > > > > > > > > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan > > to > > > > > send > > > > > > > > 30,000 > > > > > > > > > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on > > > > > Tuesday's > > > > > > > vote, > > > > > > > > > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the > > bugle > > > > of > > > > > > > > retreat. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in > > Iraq > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > coalition forces have begun to take the first step > > > > > backwards, " > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services > > > > > > > > Committee. " We > > > > > > > > > cannot take that step -- not at this time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear David and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the > > US > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > clearly above normal levels these days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for > > the > > > > > > > > military. It > > > > > > > > > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is > > opposite > > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > L8 > > > > > > > > > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine > > officers, > > > > > > including > > > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in > > the > > > > > > aftermath > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, > > AP > > > > > reports > > > > > > > > citing > > > > > > > > > > senior defense officials. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " > > <david@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear thor... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > > ---- > > > > -- > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary > > J. > > > > > > Steven > > > > > > > > Griles > > > > > > > > > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest- > > ranking > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > > administration official convicted in the Jack > > Abramoff > > > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > > scandal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior > > Department > > > > > > admitted > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his > > > > > > relationship > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought > > Griles' > > > > > > > > > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's > > Indian > > > > > > tribal > > > > > > > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for > > testifying > > > > > > > falsely > > > > > > > > > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on > > November 2, > > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's > > > > investigators > > > > > on > > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > > 20, 2005. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the > > > > > > > > responsibility for > > > > > > > > > > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles > > said > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, > > they > > > > > must > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place > > to > > > > > > decide > > > > > > > > > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. > > I > > > > > > > apologize > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > cosmologer > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal > > Sun > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > SAMVA USA > > > > > > > > > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of > > obstacles > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > thrown in > > > > > > > > > > > the way of President Bush. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > > > > > > > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to > > require > > > > > > > > President > > > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall > > 2008, > > > > > > despite > > > > > > > > a White > > > > > > > > > > > House veto threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted > > > > Friday > > > > > to > > > > > > > > order > > > > > > > > > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from > > Iraq > > > > > next > > > > > > > > year, a > > > > > > > > > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers > > struggle > > > > and > > > > > > > > Congress' > > > > > > > > > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's > > policy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers > > voted > > > > 218- > > > > > > 212, > > > > > > > > mostly > > > > > > > > > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill > > requiring > > > > > that > > > > > > > > combat > > > > > > > > > > > operations cease before September 2008, or > > earlier if > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > > > > government does not meet certain requirements. > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > it was > > > > > > > > > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep > > last > > > > > > > > November, > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the > > > > president's > > > > > > > > conduct of > > > > > > > > > > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D- > > > > > Calif. " The > > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > > > people see the reality of the war, the president > > does > > > > > > not. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush > > warned > > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday to > > > > > > > > > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify > > about the > > > > > > > > firings of > > > > > > > > > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not > > under > > > > oath > > > > > or > > > > > > > > risk a > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not > > > > back > > > > > > down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift > > and > > > > > firm: > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > > said they > > > > > > > > > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as > > > > > Wednesday > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > > > > > House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under > > oath. > > > > > > That's > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > formula > > > > > > > > > > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, > > > > > chairman > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the > > White > > > > > House, > > > > > > > > said, > > > > > > > > > > " We will > > > > > > > > > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition > > > > aimed > > > > > at > > > > > > > > honorable > > > > > > > > > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a > > reasonable > > > > way > > > > > to > > > > > > > > avoid an > > > > > > > > > > > > impasse. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him > > and > > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > natural to > > > > > > > > > > > > consider replacing them. " There is no > > indication > > > > that > > > > > > > > anybody did > > > > > > > > > > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, > > Alberto > > > > > > > Gonzales, > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > boost > > > > > > > > > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day > > with > > > > a > > > > > > > public > > > > > > > > > > statement > > > > > > > > > > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales > > of > > > > his > > > > > > > > authority to > > > > > > > > > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate > > > > > > confirmation. > > > > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House > > > > purged > > > > > > > eight > > > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading > > political > > > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot > > Act > > > > gave > > > > > > > > > Gonzales the > > > > > > > > > > > > new authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential > > hopefuls > > > > > > Hillary > > > > > > > > Rodham > > > > > > > > > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John > > Edwards, > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > called for > > > > > > > > > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a > > handful > > > > of > > > > > > > > Republican > > > > > > > > > > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal > > really > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > intimidation > > > > > > > > > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " > > said > > > > > Sen. > > > > > > > > Sheldon > > > > > > > > > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who > > > > spent > > > > > > much > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released > > by > > > > the > > > > > > > > Justice > > > > > > > > > > > Department. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred > > Fielding, > > > > told > > > > > > > > lawmakers > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl > > Rove, > > > > > former > > > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but > > only > > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > president's > > > > > > > > > > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an > > oath " > > > > and > > > > > > > > without a > > > > > > > > > > > > transcript. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually > > > > > unprecedented > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the > > > > > information > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > needs > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward > > and > > > > > find > > > > > > > > the right > > > > > > > > > > > > information, they ought to accept what I > > proposed, " > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > said. " If > > > > > > > > > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then > > the > > > > > > rejection > > > > > > > > of this > > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for > > the > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > > people to > > > > > > > > > > > > see. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court > > any > > > > > > attempt > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > subpoena > > > > > > > > > > > > White House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in > > constant > > > > > fear > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > hauled > > > > > > > > > > > > before various committees to discuss internal > > > > > > > > deliberations, the > > > > > > > > > > > > president would not receive candid advice and > > the > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the > > > > > situation > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > gotten to > > > > > > > > > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., > > for > > > > you. > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > > > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate > > probe > > > > > > into > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > firings, > > > > > > > > > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the > > White > > > > > > House: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk > > to > > > > > them, > > > > > > > > but not > > > > > > > > > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom > > of > > > > what > > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > > > > > here. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally > > > > > > required > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > tell the > > > > > > > > > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of > > their > > > > > > > > comments, " it > > > > > > > > > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they > > would > > > > be > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > kind > > > > > > > > > > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few > > hours > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > spoke > > > > > > > > > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call- > > their > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > conversation > > > > > > > > > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes > > by his > > > > > > > > longtime > > > > > > > > > friend > > > > > > > > > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for > > > > Gonzales' > > > > > > > > ouster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews > > with > > > > > Rove, > > > > > > > > Miers, > > > > > > > > > > deputy > > > > > > > > > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott > > > > > > Jennings, > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > deputy to > > > > > > > > > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who > > > > works > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > Rove. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted > > > > > without > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > need for > > > > > > > > > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or > > the > > > > > > > subsequent > > > > > > > > > issuance > > > > > > > > > > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the > > > > > Senate > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking > > Republicans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice > > > > > > Department " do > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > reflect > > > > > > > > > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to > > interfere > > > > with > > > > > a > > > > > > > > pending or > > > > > > > > > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other > > > > > improper > > > > > > > > reason. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven > > contributed > > > > to > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > repo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another > > health > > > > > > > incident > > > > > > > > > today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > scandal > > > > > > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General > > this > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > confirm his > > > > > > > > > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for > > him to > > > > > > resign > > > > > > > > or be > > > > > > > > > > > removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary > > Committee > > > > > has > > > > > > > > insisted > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the > > President, > > > > > testify > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > oath > > > > > > > > > > > > > before the committee about his role in the > > > > firings > > > > > of > > > > > > > > eight US > > > > > > > > > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to > > > > have > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > interviewed but > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US > > > > Presidency > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > consistent with > > > > > > > > > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 > > Sun > > > > > and > > > > > > > H2, > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > well as > > > > > > > > > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 > > Sun > > > > and > > > > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in > > leg > > > > > with > > > > > > > clot > > > > > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment > > after > > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > > in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > > with blood clot > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with > > clot > > > > > > > > discovered in > > > > > > > > > > > February > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after > > treatment > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney > > > > went > > > > > to > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday > > morning > > > > after > > > > > > > > > experiencing > > > > > > > > > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a > > blood > > > > > clot > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > discovered a > > > > > > > > > > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was > > > > asked > > > > > to > > > > > > > > return > > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the > > > > deep > > > > > > > venous > > > > > > > > > > thrombosis, > > > > > > > > > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan > > > > McGinn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or > > > > > complication > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > clot, " > > > > > > > > > > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was > > > > found > > > > > to > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > therapeutic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, > > and > > > > the > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > course of > > > > > > > > > > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume > > his > > > > > > normal > > > > > > > > > > schedule, she > > > > > > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a > > > > blood > > > > > > clot > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the vice > > > > > > > > > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that > > he > > > > > likely > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > have to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for > > > > several > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time > > > > that > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > 66-year-old had > > > > > > > > > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > minor > > > > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood > > clot - > > > > - > > > > > > > > called a > > > > > > > > > deep > > > > > > > > > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can > > become > > > > > > > killers > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is > > > > called a > > > > > > > > pulmonary > > > > > > > > > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an > > > > estimated > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > million > > > > > > > > > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after > > spending > > > > long > > > > > > > > periods > > > > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul > > airline > > > > > > flights. > > > > > > > > > > Cheney had > > > > > > > > > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a > > nine- > > > > day, > > > > > > > > > > round-the-world > > > > > > > > > > > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related > > > > problems > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in > > 2005 > > > > to > > > > > > > repair > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > kind of > > > > > > > > > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery > > > > that > > > > > can > > > > > > > > burst > > > > > > > > > > if left > > > > > > > > > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, > > > > quadruple > > > > > > > bypass > > > > > > > > > > surgery, > > > > > > > > > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an > > > > operation > > > > > to > > > > > > > > implant a > > > > > > > > > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the > > Vice > > > > > > > > President, the > > > > > > > > > > > perjury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the > > resignation > > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Secretary of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems > > > > > facing > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated > > > > > > > > congressional > > > > > > > > > > > hearings on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim > > > > they > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > fired for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat > > by > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > > military > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As > > that > > > > > > were > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > enough, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the background to these more recent > > > > developments > > > > > is > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > ongoing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and > > civilian > > > > > > > > > casulaties. The > > > > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > all at > > > > > > > > > > > once are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions > > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > both the > > > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice > > > > President > > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > > had been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, > > after > > > > > > > returning > > > > > > > > > from a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grueling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health > > setback > > > > > raises > > > > > > > > > > questions about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job > > but > > > > > > also > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > fitness to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President > > Bush > > > > > for > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > reason is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to > > Vice > > > > > > > President > > > > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political > > > > scandal. > > > > > > Many > > > > > > > > see the > > > > > > > > > > > aide as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the > > Vice > > > > > > > > President. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > transit and > > > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA > > USA > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood > > > > clot > > > > > in > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > leg > > > > > > > > > > and is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, > > his > > > > > office > > > > > > > > has said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower > > left > > > > leg > > > > > on > > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work > > after > > > > the > > > > > > > > > examination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning > > > > > > medication > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac > > > > > problems. > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > suffered > > > > > > > > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate > > heartbeat in > > > > > 2001 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis > > (DVT) - > > > > > are > > > > > > > > often > > > > > > > > > > associated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the > > > > > reduced > > > > > > air > > > > > > > > > > pressure and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of > > > > > inactivity > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > dehydration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots > > themselves > > > > are > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > life-threatening > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become > > wedged in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lungs or > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be > > fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA > > leak > > > > case > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " > > Libby, > > > > a > > > > > > > > former top > > > > > > > > > > aide to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted > > on > > > > > > Tuesday > > > > > > > > of four > > > > > > > > > > > counts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury > > during > > > > an > > > > > > > > > investigation > > > > > > > > > > > tied > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys > > promptly > > > > > > said > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > seek a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of > > lying to > > > > > the > > > > > > > FBI > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the probe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a > > CIA > > > > > > analyst > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > 2003. He > > > > > > > > > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense > > > > > attorney > > > > > > > > Theodore > > > > > > > > > > Wells > > > > > > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would > > > > > appeal > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 My dear , Thank you for this important assessment of the SAMVA USA chart, which I agree wholeheartedly with. We will continue to follow the events in coming few weeks before drawing together the many threads with respect to the predictions made, including the predictions concerning setbacks in financial markets. In this regard, we can examine more carefully the basis of my numerical prediction concerning the stock market, which seems to be the only prediction that has been off the mark - at least so far. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , <siha wrote: > > Hello my dear Thor, > > The events in the last one and a half month show without any doubt that > SAMVA US chart with Cancer ascendant responds best of all charts proposed. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > - > " cosmologer " <cosmologer > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:24 PM > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > Dear friends, > > The problems for the close associates of President Bush continue. Paul > Wolfowitz, President of the World Bank, is also taking his lumps these > days for acts considered improper. Wolfowitz is considered one of the > architechts of the War in Iraq. Gonzales at the Justice Department > seems to have weathered the storm. > > The aspects with regard to the obstacles faced by the President are > about to reach their peak. However, the aspect of Jupiter to Saturn is > yet to become exact. The nodes, which are now again moving, are also > about to become exactly conjunct the MEP of the chart. We have about > two more weeks of difficult transits to witness. So, a lot could still > happen. > > As an aside, the problem with the US Congress being obstructionist > concerning foreign policy initiatives of a sitting President is > apparently nothing new. This is emerging from a reading of the book by > Niall Ferguson, Colossus. This feature of American political life is > consistent with L8 Saturn aspecting L2 Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Agency investigating Rove's political operation > POSTED: 9:51 p.m. EDT, April 24, 2007 > Story Highlights > . Federal agency investigating Karl Rove and other White House officials > . Presentations made by White House aides might have violated Hatch Act > . Hatch Act protects federal employees from political coercion > . Agency also investigating GOP e-mail accounts, attorney firings > >From Ed Henry, CNN Washington Bureau > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A small federal agency responsible for > safeguarding federal employees from political coercion has launched an > extensive investigation into the activities of the White House's > political operation and its architect, Karl Rove. The U.S. Office of > Special Counsel is looking into whether Rove -- President Bush's > longtime trusted political strategist -- or other White House aides > violated federal law by making political presentations to government > employees in the run-up to last year's midterm elections. " We will do > a thorough job. We will not leave any stone unturned, " said Scott > Bloch, a Kansas lawyer appointed by Bush to head the agency in 2003. > " We will be fair, we will be impartial, and we will be thorough. " > Bloch confirmed that Rove will be a focus of his investigation. " Mr. > Rove is a respected individual in the White House, and we plan to do > our job with professionalism, " he said. > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Bush Won't Accept Iraq War Timetable > > Apr 24 12:29 PM US/Eastern > > By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush, standing firmly against a timetable > > for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq, said Tuesday that he will veto > > the latest war spending bill taking shape in Congress. " I'm > > disappointed that the Democratic leadership has chosen this course, " > > Bush said. " They chose to make a political statement, " he said. > > " That's their right but it is wrong for our troops and it's wrong for > > our country. To accept the bill proposed by the Democratic leadership > > would be to accept a policy that directly contradicts the judgment of > > our military commanders. " > > > > House and Senate Democratic appropriators agreed Monday on a $124 > > billion bill that would fund the Iraq war but order troops to begin > > leaving by Oct. 1 with the goal of completing the pullout six months > > later. Democrats would need a two-thirds majority to override a > > presidential veto. Democrats said they won't back down and pointed to > > past remarks by Gen. David Petraeus, the new Iraq commander, that > > security in Iraq requires a political solution. Senate Majority Leader > > Harry Reid, D-Nev., who says the war in Iraq is " lost, " likened Bush > > to President Lyndon Johnson, saying Johnson ordered troop escalations > > in Vietnam in an attempt " to save his political legacy " only to watch > > U.S. casualties climb steadily. > > > > Bush said U.S. troops should not be caught in the middle of a showdown > > between the White House and Congress. " Yesterday, Democratic leaders > > announced that they planned to send me a bill that will fund our > > troops only if we agree to handcuff our generals, add billions of > > dollars of unrelated spending and begin to pull out of Iraq by an > > arbitrary date, " Bush said on the South Lawn. He said the bill would > > mandate the withdrawal of U.S. troops beginning as early as July 1 and > > no later than Oct. 1, despite the fact that Petraeus has not yet > > received all the reinforcements he has said he needs in the latest > > military buildup to help secure Baghdad and the troubled Anbar Province. > > > > Democrats have argued that the election that left Democrats in control > > of Congress was a referendum for a change of strategy in Iraq. Bush > > used the same election results to argue his point. > > > > " The American people did not vote for failure, " he said. " That is > > precisely what the Democratic leadership's bill would guarantee. " It's > > not too late for Congress to do the right thing. " > > > > [snip] > > > > Under the nonbinding timeline, all combat troops would be withdrawn by > > April 1, 2008. > > > > [snip] > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > More problems for the President this week. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > Congress set to defy Bush on Iraq war > > > Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:08pm ET > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A fight between the U.S. Congress and > > > President George W. Bush over the Iraq war is set to come to a head > > > this week when Democrats are expected to send him $100 billion to pay > > > for continuing combat while setting timetables for withdrawing troops. > > > Bush has promised to veto any bill setting dates for removing U.S. > > > combat soldiers from the Iraq war, now in its fifth year.But when a > > > Democratic-controlled panel of Senate and House of Representatives > > > members meets on Monday to iron out differences between their > > > respective bills, the product is expected to contain 2008 withdrawal > > > dates. > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > A relentless barrage of problems continues to land in the lap of > > > > President Bush. > > > > > > > > 1. A top ranking Democrat has publically announced that he directly > > > > told President Bush that the war in Iraq is lost " politically, > > > > militarily and economically " . > > > > > > > > 2. A senator has also demanded that the head of the Justice > > > > Department, Gonzales, resign. Earlier Gonzales personally apologised > > > > for the firings of the 8 US justices, thereby assuming > > > responsibility > > > > for the fiasco. > > > > > > > > The problems should be even greater next week in light of the > > > transits > > > > impacting the strength of transit and natal Sun in the SAMVA USA > > > > chart. We will soon see. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > Iraq war is 'lost': US Democrat leader > > > > Apr 19 02:45 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > The war in Iraq " is lost " and a US troop surge is failing to bring > > > > peace to the country, the leader of the Democratic majority in the > > > US > > > > Congress, Harry Reid, said Thursday. " I believe ... that this war is > > > > lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by > > > the > > > > extreme violence in Iraq this week, " Reid told journalists. Reid > > > said > > > > he had delivered the same message to US President George W. Bush on > > > > Wednesday, when the US president met with senior lawmakers to > > > discuss > > > > how to end a standoff over an emergency war funding bill. " I know I > > > > was the odd guy out at the White House, but I told him at least what > > > > he needed to hear ... I believe the war at this stage can only be > > > won > > > > diplomatically, politically and economically. " Congress is seeking > > > to > > > > tie funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to a timetable to > > > > withdraw US troops from Iraq next year, but Bush has vowed to veto > > > any > > > > such bill and no breakthrough was reported from the White House > > > talks. > > > > Bush on Thursday was addressing an Ohio town hall meeting and > > > > defending the war on terror launched in the wake of the September > > > 11, > > > > 2001 attacks. " It is the most solemn duty of our country, is to > > > > protect our country from harm, " Bush told the invited audience in > > > > Tipp, Ohio. > > > > > > > > " A lesson learned was that -- at least in my opinion -- that in > > > order > > > > to protect us, we must aggressively pursue the enemy and defeat them > > > > elsewhere so that we do not have to face them here. " > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > Republican senator calls for Gonzales to quit > > > > POSTED: 4:14 p.m. EDT, April 19, 2007 > > > > Story Highlights > > > > . NEW: Republican Sen. Coburn urges Gonzales to resign > > > > . Gonzales: Alleging partisanship is an attack on career Justice > > > Dept. > > > > employees > > > > . Gonzales says he'll resign if he can no longer be an effective > > > leader > > > > . Sen. Arlen Specter questions attorney general on extent of > > > involvement > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales confronted a > > > > fresh call for his resignation from a fellow Republican Thursday as > > > he > > > > struggled to survive a bipartisan Senate challenge to his > > > credibility > > > > in the case of eight fired prosecutors. Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom > > > > Coburn told Gonzales that the situation was handled incompetently > > > and > > > > said there should be consequences. " The communication was atrocious. > > > > It was inconsistent -- it's generous to say that there was > > > > misstatements; it's a generous statement. And I believe you ought to > > > > suffer the consequences that these others have suffered, " Coburn > > > said. > > > > " And I believe the best way to put this behind us is your > > > > resignation. " Coburn is the first Republican on the Senate Judiciary > > > > Committee to call for Gonzales' resignation. > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > The problems facing the US Presidency are still numerous, and > > > don´t > > > > > seem to be fading away: > > > > > > > > > > - The death toll of US troops in Iraq keeps on mounting. > > > > > - The head of the Justice Department, Gonzales, who has been > > > strongly > > > > > backed by President Bush, in his recent problems over the firings > > > of > > > > > justices, is again in hot water. Emails now show that he > > > suggested > > > > > replacing the justices one year before they were let go. This > > > brings > > > > > the matter right to his doorstep. If he is forced to step down > > > that > > > > > would be a setback for the President. > > > > > - Another close associate of President Bush, Wolfowitz, head of > > > the > > > > > World Bank, is now in hot water over the pay raise he arranged > > > for > > > > > his girlfriend. While the scandal is not as big as some others it > > > is > > > > > being seized upon to try to get rid of this appointy of President > > > > > Bush. Many countries were upset when a symbol of US arrogance and > > > > > unilateral actions of the US in the world was appointed to this > > > body > > > > > and would like to get rid of him. If they succeed it would be a > > > > > setback for President Bush. > > > > > - a story is now in the news that 5 million emails in the White > > > House > > > > > are missing. The loss of emails came to light when an inquiry was > > > > > launched into allegations that Karl Rove, the chief political > > > advisor > > > > > to the President, had used offical email for political purposes, > > > > > which is banned by law. If the allegations are proven, it would > > > be > > > > > another setback for the President. > > > > > > > > > > In other words, there are continuing problems for President Bush, > > > > > which is not surprising in view of the transits in the SAMVA USA > > > > > chart, notably the aspect of transit L8 Saturn to natal L2 Sun. > > > The > > > > > afflictions involving transit L6 Jupiter and L8 Saturn are making > > > > > this aspect more difficult. In general, the difficult aspects > > > will > > > > > only become more difficult in the coming four weeks or so. One > > > > > helpful transit is that L2 Sun has now entered the sign Aries > > > (and > > > > > H10) where it is exalted. While that would ordinarily be likely > > > to > > > > > help the US President, L10 Mars is now in H8 and about to become > > > > > conjunct transit Rahu. This would undermine the strength of the > > > Sun > > > > > in H10. Hence, the transit of the Sun may actually only add to > > > the > > > > > difficulty of problems facing President Bush in the coming week > > > or > > > > > two. We will see how things turn out. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > White House: Millions of e-mails may be missing > > > > > POSTED: 7:07 p.m. EDT, April 13, 2007 > > > > > Story Highlights. NEW: White House spokeswoman says 5 million > > > > > official e-mails may be missing > > > > > . White House admits it should have kept e-mails on private GOP > > > system > > > > > . Chairman of Senate Judiciary Committee doubts e-mails are > > > deleted > > > > > . Committee investigating whether U.S. attorneys' firings were > > > > > politically motivated > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Millions of White House e-mails may be > > > missing, > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino acknowledged Friday. > > > > > > > > > > " I wouldn't rule out that there were a potential 5 million e- > > > mails > > > > > lost, " Perino told reporters. > > > > > > > > > > The administration was already facing sharp questions about > > > whether > > > > > top presidential advisers including Karl Rove improperly used > > > > > Republican National Committee e-mail that the White House said > > > later > > > > > disappeared. > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > The following six news headlines on DrudgeReport.com today > > > about > > > > > the > > > > > > policy debate in the USA over the war in Iraq give a > > > fascinating > > > > > > overview of the current political situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats Escalate Iraq War Debate... > > > > > > Reid May Move to Cut Funds... > > > > > > CHENEY: MILITARY ANSWERS TO ONE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF... > > > > > > House Republicans Have Votes To Sustain Veto... > > > > > > Hillary Challenges Veto Threat... > > > > > > Bush Rips Dems Over War Funding... > > > > > > > > > > > > These news headlines show clearly what an epic power struggle > > > has > > > > > > developed between the Democratically controlled Congress > > > > > (Legislative > > > > > > branch of government) and the Republican controlled White House > > > > > > (Executive branch of government). The problems for President > > > Bush > > > > > are > > > > > > indeed significant at this time. > > > > > > > > > > > > These problems are clearly reflected in the SAMVA USA chart, > > > with > > > > > > transit L8 Saturn having reached 24° 24' Cancer H1 in > > > opposition to > > > > > > natal L2 Sun at 23° 45' Capricorn. Saturn will become > > > stationary > > > > > at > > > > > > 24° 11' Cancer in the third week of April, In terms of this > > > aspect, > > > > > > the greatest strain for the indications of the Sun should be > > > felt. > > > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned in other posts there are numerous other aspects to > > > > > > consider, not least the stationary nodes impact on the house > > > MEPs > > > > > and > > > > > > natal L4 Venus in H6 and the impact of transit L6 Jupiter in H5 > > > on > > > > > > transit L8 Saturn in H1. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two news items have appeared this weekend signalling > > > difficulty > > > > > for > > > > > > > President Bush, also related to 4th house matters. One has to > > > do > > > > > > with > > > > > > > emission of greenhouse gasses. The other story has to do with > > > > > > > regulations concerning logging in wildlife areas. Bush had > > > > > proposed > > > > > > > more freedom, but the judge insisted that environmental > > > > > > > considerations be brought into the picture, reversing the > > > > > > regulation. > > > > > > > Such stories show the impact of the present transits in the > > > SAMVA > > > > > > USA > > > > > > > chart with regard to L2 Sun and L4 Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Split court rules against Bush on greenhouse gases > > > > > > > POSTED: 10:50 a.m. EDT, April 2, 2007 > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ordered the federal > > > > > government > > > > > > > on Monday to take a fresh look at regulating carbon dioxide > > > > > > emissions > > > > > > > from cars, a rebuke to Bush administration policy on global > > > > > warming. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a 5-4 decision, the court said the Clean Air Act gives the > > > > > > > Environmental Protection Agency the authority to regulate the > > > > > > > emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from > > > cars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/02/scotus.greenhousegas.ap/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional clarification. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, there is an unusual amount of adverse transit > > > impacts > > > > > > > active > > > > > > > > at present in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by > > > you > > > > > and > > > > > > > > take part in > > > > > > > > > making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting > > > > > > situations > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at > > > the > > > > > > > highest > > > > > > > > level in > > > > > > > > > US. I was partially looking into the aspect of conflicts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional insights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit > > > > > nodes > > > > > > on > > > > > > > H2 > > > > > > > > > MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in > > > turn > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to > > > explain > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on > > > > > natal > > > > > > L2 > > > > > > > > > Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8 > > > Saturn > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the > > > > > indications > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > close > > > > > > > > > > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu > > > axis > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > showing the > > > > > > > > > > impact of current affliction in the chart in a > > > pronounced > > > > > > > manner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The > > > > > Democratically > > > > > > > > > > controlled Congress since last November has begun to > > > show > > > > > its > > > > > > > > teeth > > > > > > > > > > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the > > > > > > > President, > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has > > > been > > > > > > > passed > > > > > > > > > > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from > > > > > Iraq. > > > > > > > > > > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared > > > the > > > > > US > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President > > > now > > > > > has > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in > > > both > > > > > > > > chambers > > > > > > > > > > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a > > > > > > development > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even > > > > > > further, > > > > > > > > > > adding to the problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and > > > period > > > > > > > > > dynmamics > > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn > > > in > > > > > H1 > > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart > > > Saturn > > > > > > rules > > > > > > > > > > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such > > > affliction. > > > > > > > > > Moreover, > > > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of > > > the 'executive' > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up > > > in > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In > > > coming > > > > > > > days > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the > > > > > conditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This and other political developments show clearly that > > > the > > > > > > > > > prediction > > > > > > > > > > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the > > > > > Spring > > > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > > > is being realised. The chart also suggests the > > > intensity of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > > > half of May. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote > > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto > > > > > > > > > > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from > > > funding > > > > > bill > > > > > > > > > > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes > > > failure > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > Iraq > > > > > > > > > > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, > > > sets > > > > > > > March > > > > > > > > > 2008 > > > > > > > > > > deadline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the > > > Democratic- > > > > > led > > > > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for > > > U.S. > > > > > > > > > withdrawal > > > > > > > > > > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, > > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two- thirds > > > > > majority > > > > > > > > needed > > > > > > > > > > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a > > > sign > > > > > of > > > > > > > > growing > > > > > > > > > > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of > > > the > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American > > > > > people, " > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > Sen. > > > > > > > > > > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be > > > > > > heeded > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > president and by the government of Iraq. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin > > > > > > withdrawing > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next > > > > > March. > > > > > > A > > > > > > > > > > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on > > > training > > > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > > > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R- Kentucky, > > > said > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo > > > to > > > > > our > > > > > > > > enemies > > > > > > > > > > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the > > > day we > > > > > > > > leave, " > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we > > > > > plan > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > walk > > > > > > > > > > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we > > > > > leave > > > > > > > > > behind. " > > > > > > > > > > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 > > > billion > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > approved for this year and would drive the price tag > > > for the > > > > > > > > > > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. > > > The > > > > > > > Pentagon > > > > > > > > > > says it would have to start diverting funds from other > > > > > > programs > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives > > > with > > > > > an > > > > > > > > August > > > > > > > > > > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any > > > > > bill > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he > > > considers > > > > > > > > > extraneous > > > > > > > > > > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure > > > > > > > > as " political > > > > > > > > > > theater. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that > > > threat > > > > > > > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in > > > the > > > > > > > field, > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This > > > and > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at > > > > > grave > > > > > > > > risk, > > > > > > > > > > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's > > > > > plans > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. > > > commander > > > > > > > outline > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > concerns Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority > > > fell > > > > > > short > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. > > > > > > > Republicans > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous > > > statements > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would > > > not > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this > > > case > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > " it's important to get the money to the troops. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call > > > for a > > > > > > > > pullout > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy > > > mistake of > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > time " > > > > > > > > > > to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it > > > is > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White > > > House > > > > > > > > hustling > > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a > > > > > > possible > > > > > > > > tie. > > > > > > > > > > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid > > > > > acknowledged, " We > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > > know how it's going to turn out. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and > > > Gordon > > > > > > > Smith > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP- > > > backed > > > > > > > > amendment. > > > > > > > > > > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people are demanding that we develop a > > > > > > bipartisan > > > > > > > > > > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit > > > strategy > > > > > from > > > > > > > > Iraq, " > > > > > > > > > > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential > > > > > candidate. " If > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > fail > > > > > > > > > > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, > > > > > > America > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will > > > have > > > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > > recovering from in the years ahead. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined > > > Connecticut > > > > > > > > independent > > > > > > > > > > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. > > > And > > > > > > > Virginia > > > > > > > > > > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan > > > to > > > > > > send > > > > > > > > > 30,000 > > > > > > > > > > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on > > > > > > Tuesday's > > > > > > > > vote, > > > > > > > > > > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the > > > bugle > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > retreat. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in > > > Iraq > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > coalition forces have begun to take the first step > > > > > > backwards, " > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services > > > > > > > > > Committee. " We > > > > > > > > > > cannot take that step -- not at this time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear David and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the > > > US > > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > clearly above normal levels these days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for > > > the > > > > > > > > > military. It > > > > > > > > > > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is > > > opposite > > > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > > L8 > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine > > > officers, > > > > > > > including > > > > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > > > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in > > > the > > > > > > > aftermath > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, > > > AP > > > > > > reports > > > > > > > > > citing > > > > > > > > > > > senior defense officials. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " > > > <david@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear thor... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------- ------ > > > ---- > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary > > > J. > > > > > > > Steven > > > > > > > > > Griles > > > > > > > > > > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest- > > > ranking > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > > > administration official convicted in the Jack > > > Abramoff > > > > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > > > scandal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior > > > Department > > > > > > > admitted > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his > > > > > > > relationship > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought > > > Griles' > > > > > > > > > > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's > > > Indian > > > > > > > tribal > > > > > > > > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for > > > testifying > > > > > > > > falsely > > > > > > > > > > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on > > > November 2, > > > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's > > > > > investigators > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > > > 20, 2005. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the > > > > > > > > > responsibility for > > > > > > > > > > > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles > > > said > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > > > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, > > > they > > > > > > must > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place > > > to > > > > > > > decide > > > > > > > > > > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. > > > I > > > > > > > > apologize > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > cosmologer > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal > > > Sun > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA USA > > > > > > > > > > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of > > > obstacles > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > thrown in > > > > > > > > > > > > the way of President Bush. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > > > > > > > > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to > > > require > > > > > > > > > President > > > > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall > > > 2008, > > > > > > > despite > > > > > > > > > a White > > > > > > > > > > > > House veto threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted > > > > > Friday > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > order > > > > > > > > > > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from > > > Iraq > > > > > > next > > > > > > > > > year, a > > > > > > > > > > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers > > > struggle > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Congress' > > > > > > > > > > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's > > > policy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers > > > voted > > > > > 218- > > > > > > > 212, > > > > > > > > > mostly > > > > > > > > > > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill > > > requiring > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > combat > > > > > > > > > > > > operations cease before September 2008, or > > > earlier if > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > > > > > government does not meet certain requirements. > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > it was > > > > > > > > > > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep > > > last > > > > > > > > > November, > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the > > > > > president's > > > > > > > > > conduct of > > > > > > > > > > > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D- > > > > > > Calif. " The > > > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > > > > people see the reality of the war, the president > > > does > > > > > > > not. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush > > > warned > > > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday to > > > > > > > > > > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify > > > about the > > > > > > > > > firings of > > > > > > > > > > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not > > > under > > > > > oath > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > risk a > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not > > > > > back > > > > > > > down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift > > > and > > > > > > firm: > > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > > > said they > > > > > > > > > > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as > > > > > > Wednesday > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > > > > > > House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under > > > oath. > > > > > > > That's > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > formula > > > > > > > > > > > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, > > > > > > chairman > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the > > > White > > > > > > House, > > > > > > > > > said, > > > > > > > > > > > " We will > > > > > > > > > > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition > > > > > aimed > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > honorable > > > > > > > > > > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a > > > reasonable > > > > > way > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > avoid an > > > > > > > > > > > > > impasse. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him > > > and > > > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > natural to > > > > > > > > > > > > > consider replacing them. " There is no > > > indication > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > anybody did > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, > > > Alberto > > > > > > > > Gonzales, > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > boost > > > > > > > > > > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day > > > with > > > > > a > > > > > > > > public > > > > > > > > > > > statement > > > > > > > > > > > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales > > > of > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > authority to > > > > > > > > > > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate > > > > > > > confirmation. > > > > > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House > > > > > purged > > > > > > > > eight > > > > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > > > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading > > > political > > > > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > > > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot > > > Act > > > > > gave > > > > > > > > > > Gonzales the > > > > > > > > > > > > > new authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential > > > hopefuls > > > > > > > Hillary > > > > > > > > > Rodham > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John > > > Edwards, > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > called for > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a > > > handful > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Republican > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal > > > really > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > > intimidation > > > > > > > > > > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " > > > said > > > > > > Sen. > > > > > > > > > Sheldon > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who > > > > > spent > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released > > > by > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Justice > > > > > > > > > > > > Department. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred > > > Fielding, > > > > > told > > > > > > > > > lawmakers > > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl > > > Rove, > > > > > > former > > > > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies- but > > > only > > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > president's > > > > > > > > > > > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an > > > oath " > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > without a > > > > > > > > > > > > > transcript. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually > > > > > > unprecedented > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the > > > > > > information > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > needs > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward > > > and > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > the right > > > > > > > > > > > > > information, they ought to accept what I > > > proposed, " > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > said. " If > > > > > > > > > > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then > > > the > > > > > > > rejection > > > > > > > > > of this > > > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for > > > the > > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > > > people to > > > > > > > > > > > > > see. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court > > > any > > > > > > > attempt > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > subpoena > > > > > > > > > > > > > White House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in > > > constant > > > > > > fear > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > hauled > > > > > > > > > > > > > before various committees to discuss internal > > > > > > > > > deliberations, the > > > > > > > > > > > > > president would not receive candid advice and > > > the > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the > > > > > > situation > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > gotten to > > > > > > > > > > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., > > > for > > > > > you. > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > > > > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate > > > probe > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > firings, > > > > > > > > > > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the > > > White > > > > > > > House: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk > > > to > > > > > > them, > > > > > > > > > but not > > > > > > > > > > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom > > > of > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally > > > > > > > required > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > tell the > > > > > > > > > > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of > > > their > > > > > > > > > comments, " it > > > > > > > > > > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they > > > would > > > > > be > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > kind > > > > > > > > > > > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few > > > hours > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > > spoke > > > > > > > > > > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call- > > > their > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > conversation > > > > > > > > > > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes > > > by his > > > > > > > > > longtime > > > > > > > > > > friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for > > > > > Gonzales' > > > > > > > > > ouster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews > > > with > > > > > > Rove, > > > > > > > > > Miers, > > > > > > > > > > > deputy > > > > > > > > > > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott > > > > > > > Jennings, > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > deputy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who > > > > > works > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > Rove. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > need for > > > > > > > > > > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or > > > the > > > > > > > > subsequent > > > > > > > > > > issuance > > > > > > > > > > > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking > > > Republicans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice > > > > > > > Department " do > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > reflect > > > > > > > > > > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to > > > interfere > > > > > with > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > pending or > > > > > > > > > > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other > > > > > > improper > > > > > > > > > reason. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven > > > contributed > > > > > to > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > repo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another > > > health > > > > > > > > incident > > > > > > > > > > today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > scandal > > > > > > > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General > > > this > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > confirm his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for > > > him to > > > > > > > resign > > > > > > > > > or be > > > > > > > > > > > > removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary > > > Committee > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > insisted > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the > > > President, > > > > > > testify > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > oath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before the committee about his role in the > > > > > firings > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > eight US > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to > > > > > have > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > > interviewed but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > consistent with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 > > > Sun > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > H2, > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > well as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 > > > Sun > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in > > > leg > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > clot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment > > > after > > > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > > > in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with blood clot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with > > > clot > > > > > > > > > discovered in > > > > > > > > > > > > February > > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after > > > treatment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart- related > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney > > > > > went > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday > > > morning > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > experiencing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a > > > blood > > > > > > clot > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > discovered a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was > > > > > asked > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > return > > > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the > > > > > deep > > > > > > > > venous > > > > > > > > > > > thrombosis, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan > > > > > McGinn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or > > > > > > complication > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > clot, " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was > > > > > found > > > > > > to > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > therapeutic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > > course of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume > > > his > > > > > > > normal > > > > > > > > > > > schedule, she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a > > > > > blood > > > > > > > clot > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the vice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that > > > he > > > > > > likely > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > have to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for > > > > > several > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time > > > > > that > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > 66-year-old had > > > > > > > > > > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after > > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > > minor > > > > > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood > > > clot - > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > called a > > > > > > > > > > deep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can > > > become > > > > > > > > killers > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is > > > > > called a > > > > > > > > > pulmonary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an > > > > > estimated > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > million > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after > > > spending > > > > > long > > > > > > > > > periods > > > > > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul > > > airline > > > > > > > flights. > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney had > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a > > > nine- > > > > > day, > > > > > > > > > > > round-the-world > > > > > > > > > > > > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart- related > > > > > problems > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in > > > 2005 > > > > > to > > > > > > > > repair > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > kind of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery > > > > > that > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > burst > > > > > > > > > > > if left > > > > > > > > > > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, > > > > > quadruple > > > > > > > > bypass > > > > > > > > > > > surgery, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an > > > > > operation > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > implant a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the > > > Vice > > > > > > > > > President, the > > > > > > > > > > > > perjury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the > > > resignation > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Secretary of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems > > > > > > facing > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated > > > > > > > > > congressional > > > > > > > > > > > > hearings on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim > > > > > they > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > fired for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat > > > by > > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > > > military > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As > > > that > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > enough, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the background to these more recent > > > > > developments > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > ongoing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and > > > civilian > > > > > > > > > > casulaties. The > > > > > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > all at > > > > > > > > > > > > once are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions > > > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > > both the > > > > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice > > > > > President > > > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > > > had been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, > > > after > > > > > > > > returning > > > > > > > > > > from a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grueling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health > > > setback > > > > > > raises > > > > > > > > > > > questions about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job > > > but > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > fitness to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President > > > Bush > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > reason is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to > > > Vice > > > > > > > > President > > > > > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political > > > > > scandal. > > > > > > > Many > > > > > > > > > see the > > > > > > > > > > > > aide as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the > > > Vice > > > > > > > > > President. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent > > > with > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > transit and > > > > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA > > > USA > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood > > > > > clot > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > leg > > > > > > > > > > > and is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, > > > his > > > > > > office > > > > > > > > > has said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower > > > left > > > > > leg > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work > > > after > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > examination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood- thinning > > > > > > > medication > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac > > > > > > problems. > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > suffered > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate > > > heartbeat in > > > > > > 2001 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis > > > (DVT) - > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > often > > > > > > > > > > > associated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the > > > > > > reduced > > > > > > > air > > > > > > > > > > > pressure and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of > > > > > > inactivity > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > dehydration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots > > > themselves > > > > > are > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > life-threatening > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become > > > wedged in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lungs or > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be > > > fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA > > > leak > > > > > case > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " > > > Libby, > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > former top > > > > > > > > > > > aide to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted > > > on > > > > > > > Tuesday > > > > > > > > > of four > > > > > > > > > > > > counts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury > > > during > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > investigation > > > > > > > > > > > > tied > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys > > > promptly > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > seek a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of > > > lying to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > FBI > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the probe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a > > > CIA > > > > > > > analyst > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > 2003. He > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense > > > > > > attorney > > > > > > > > > Theodore > > > > > > > > > > > Wells > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would > > > > > > appeal > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 OK, dear Mr. Thor. Best wishes. - " cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Wednesday, April 25, 2007 3:59 PM Re: Problems for the US Presidency My dear , Thank you for this important assessment of the SAMVA USA chart, which I agree wholeheartedly with. We will continue to follow the events in coming few weeks before drawing together the many threads with respect to the predictions made, including the predictions concerning setbacks in financial markets. In this regard, we can examine more carefully the basis of my numerical prediction concerning the stock market, which seems to be the only prediction that has been off the mark - at least so far. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , <siha wrote: > > Hello my dear Thor, > > The events in the last one and a half month show without any doubt that > SAMVA US chart with Cancer ascendant responds best of all charts proposed. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > - > " cosmologer " <cosmologer > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:24 PM > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > Dear friends, > > The problems for the close associates of President Bush continue. Paul > Wolfowitz, President of the World Bank, is also taking his lumps these > days for acts considered improper. Wolfowitz is considered one of the > architechts of the War in Iraq. Gonzales at the Justice Department > seems to have weathered the storm. > > The aspects with regard to the obstacles faced by the President are > about to reach their peak. However, the aspect of Jupiter to Saturn is > yet to become exact. The nodes, which are now again moving, are also > about to become exactly conjunct the MEP of the chart. We have about > two more weeks of difficult transits to witness. So, a lot could still > happen. > > As an aside, the problem with the US Congress being obstructionist > concerning foreign policy initiatives of a sitting President is > apparently nothing new. This is emerging from a reading of the book by > Niall Ferguson, Colossus. This feature of American political life is > consistent with L8 Saturn aspecting L2 Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Agency investigating Rove's political operation > POSTED: 9:51 p.m. EDT, April 24, 2007 > Story Highlights > . Federal agency investigating Karl Rove and other White House officials > . Presentations made by White House aides might have violated Hatch Act > . Hatch Act protects federal employees from political coercion > . Agency also investigating GOP e-mail accounts, attorney firings > >From Ed Henry, CNN Washington Bureau > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A small federal agency responsible for > safeguarding federal employees from political coercion has launched an > extensive investigation into the activities of the White House's > political operation and its architect, Karl Rove. The U.S. Office of > Special Counsel is looking into whether Rove -- President Bush's > longtime trusted political strategist -- or other White House aides > violated federal law by making political presentations to government > employees in the run-up to last year's midterm elections. " We will do > a thorough job. We will not leave any stone unturned, " said Scott > Bloch, a Kansas lawyer appointed by Bush to head the agency in 2003. > " We will be fair, we will be impartial, and we will be thorough. " > Bloch confirmed that Rove will be a focus of his investigation. " Mr. > Rove is a respected individual in the White House, and we plan to do > our job with professionalism, " he said. > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Bush Won't Accept Iraq War Timetable > > Apr 24 12:29 PM US/Eastern > > By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush, standing firmly against a timetable > > for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq, said Tuesday that he will veto > > the latest war spending bill taking shape in Congress. " I'm > > disappointed that the Democratic leadership has chosen this course, " > > Bush said. " They chose to make a political statement, " he said. > > " That's their right but it is wrong for our troops and it's wrong for > > our country. To accept the bill proposed by the Democratic leadership > > would be to accept a policy that directly contradicts the judgment of > > our military commanders. " > > > > House and Senate Democratic appropriators agreed Monday on a $124 > > billion bill that would fund the Iraq war but order troops to begin > > leaving by Oct. 1 with the goal of completing the pullout six months > > later. Democrats would need a two-thirds majority to override a > > presidential veto. Democrats said they won't back down and pointed to > > past remarks by Gen. David Petraeus, the new Iraq commander, that > > security in Iraq requires a political solution. Senate Majority Leader > > Harry Reid, D-Nev., who says the war in Iraq is " lost, " likened Bush > > to President Lyndon Johnson, saying Johnson ordered troop escalations > > in Vietnam in an attempt " to save his political legacy " only to watch > > U.S. casualties climb steadily. > > > > Bush said U.S. troops should not be caught in the middle of a showdown > > between the White House and Congress. " Yesterday, Democratic leaders > > announced that they planned to send me a bill that will fund our > > troops only if we agree to handcuff our generals, add billions of > > dollars of unrelated spending and begin to pull out of Iraq by an > > arbitrary date, " Bush said on the South Lawn. He said the bill would > > mandate the withdrawal of U.S. troops beginning as early as July 1 and > > no later than Oct. 1, despite the fact that Petraeus has not yet > > received all the reinforcements he has said he needs in the latest > > military buildup to help secure Baghdad and the troubled Anbar Province. > > > > Democrats have argued that the election that left Democrats in control > > of Congress was a referendum for a change of strategy in Iraq. Bush > > used the same election results to argue his point. > > > > " The American people did not vote for failure, " he said. " That is > > precisely what the Democratic leadership's bill would guarantee. " It's > > not too late for Congress to do the right thing. " > > > > [snip] > > > > Under the nonbinding timeline, all combat troops would be withdrawn by > > April 1, 2008. > > > > [snip] > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > More problems for the President this week. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > Congress set to defy Bush on Iraq war > > > Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:08pm ET > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A fight between the U.S. Congress and > > > President George W. Bush over the Iraq war is set to come to a head > > > this week when Democrats are expected to send him $100 billion to pay > > > for continuing combat while setting timetables for withdrawing troops. > > > Bush has promised to veto any bill setting dates for removing U.S. > > > combat soldiers from the Iraq war, now in its fifth year.But when a > > > Democratic-controlled panel of Senate and House of Representatives > > > members meets on Monday to iron out differences between their > > > respective bills, the product is expected to contain 2008 withdrawal > > > dates. > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > A relentless barrage of problems continues to land in the lap of > > > > President Bush. > > > > > > > > 1. A top ranking Democrat has publically announced that he directly > > > > told President Bush that the war in Iraq is lost " politically, > > > > militarily and economically " . > > > > > > > > 2. A senator has also demanded that the head of the Justice > > > > Department, Gonzales, resign. Earlier Gonzales personally apologised > > > > for the firings of the 8 US justices, thereby assuming > > > responsibility > > > > for the fiasco. > > > > > > > > The problems should be even greater next week in light of the > > > transits > > > > impacting the strength of transit and natal Sun in the SAMVA USA > > > > chart. We will soon see. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > Iraq war is 'lost': US Democrat leader > > > > Apr 19 02:45 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > The war in Iraq " is lost " and a US troop surge is failing to bring > > > > peace to the country, the leader of the Democratic majority in the > > > US > > > > Congress, Harry Reid, said Thursday. " I believe ... that this war is > > > > lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by > > > the > > > > extreme violence in Iraq this week, " Reid told journalists. Reid > > > said > > > > he had delivered the same message to US President George W. Bush on > > > > Wednesday, when the US president met with senior lawmakers to > > > discuss > > > > how to end a standoff over an emergency war funding bill. " I know I > > > > was the odd guy out at the White House, but I told him at least what > > > > he needed to hear ... I believe the war at this stage can only be > > > won > > > > diplomatically, politically and economically. " Congress is seeking > > > to > > > > tie funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to a timetable to > > > > withdraw US troops from Iraq next year, but Bush has vowed to veto > > > any > > > > such bill and no breakthrough was reported from the White House > > > talks. > > > > Bush on Thursday was addressing an Ohio town hall meeting and > > > > defending the war on terror launched in the wake of the September > > > 11, > > > > 2001 attacks. " It is the most solemn duty of our country, is to > > > > protect our country from harm, " Bush told the invited audience in > > > > Tipp, Ohio. > > > > > > > > " A lesson learned was that -- at least in my opinion -- that in > > > order > > > > to protect us, we must aggressively pursue the enemy and defeat them > > > > elsewhere so that we do not have to face them here. " > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > Republican senator calls for Gonzales to quit > > > > POSTED: 4:14 p.m. EDT, April 19, 2007 > > > > Story Highlights > > > > . NEW: Republican Sen. Coburn urges Gonzales to resign > > > > . Gonzales: Alleging partisanship is an attack on career Justice > > > Dept. > > > > employees > > > > . Gonzales says he'll resign if he can no longer be an effective > > > leader > > > > . Sen. Arlen Specter questions attorney general on extent of > > > involvement > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales confronted a > > > > fresh call for his resignation from a fellow Republican Thursday as > > > he > > > > struggled to survive a bipartisan Senate challenge to his > > > credibility > > > > in the case of eight fired prosecutors. Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom > > > > Coburn told Gonzales that the situation was handled incompetently > > > and > > > > said there should be consequences. " The communication was atrocious. > > > > It was inconsistent -- it's generous to say that there was > > > > misstatements; it's a generous statement. And I believe you ought to > > > > suffer the consequences that these others have suffered, " Coburn > > > said. > > > > " And I believe the best way to put this behind us is your > > > > resignation. " Coburn is the first Republican on the Senate Judiciary > > > > Committee to call for Gonzales' resignation. > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > The problems facing the US Presidency are still numerous, and > > > don´t > > > > > seem to be fading away: > > > > > > > > > > - The death toll of US troops in Iraq keeps on mounting. > > > > > - The head of the Justice Department, Gonzales, who has been > > > strongly > > > > > backed by President Bush, in his recent problems over the firings > > > of > > > > > justices, is again in hot water. Emails now show that he > > > suggested > > > > > replacing the justices one year before they were let go. This > > > brings > > > > > the matter right to his doorstep. If he is forced to step down > > > that > > > > > would be a setback for the President. > > > > > - Another close associate of President Bush, Wolfowitz, head of > > > the > > > > > World Bank, is now in hot water over the pay raise he arranged > > > for > > > > > his girlfriend. While the scandal is not as big as some others it > > > is > > > > > being seized upon to try to get rid of this appointy of President > > > > > Bush. Many countries were upset when a symbol of US arrogance and > > > > > unilateral actions of the US in the world was appointed to this > > > body > > > > > and would like to get rid of him. If they succeed it would be a > > > > > setback for President Bush. > > > > > - a story is now in the news that 5 million emails in the White > > > House > > > > > are missing. The loss of emails came to light when an inquiry was > > > > > launched into allegations that Karl Rove, the chief political > > > advisor > > > > > to the President, had used offical email for political purposes, > > > > > which is banned by law. If the allegations are proven, it would > > > be > > > > > another setback for the President. > > > > > > > > > > In other words, there are continuing problems for President Bush, > > > > > which is not surprising in view of the transits in the SAMVA USA > > > > > chart, notably the aspect of transit L8 Saturn to natal L2 Sun. > > > The > > > > > afflictions involving transit L6 Jupiter and L8 Saturn are making > > > > > this aspect more difficult. In general, the difficult aspects > > > will > > > > > only become more difficult in the coming four weeks or so. One > > > > > helpful transit is that L2 Sun has now entered the sign Aries > > > (and > > > > > H10) where it is exalted. While that would ordinarily be likely > > > to > > > > > help the US President, L10 Mars is now in H8 and about to become > > > > > conjunct transit Rahu. This would undermine the strength of the > > > Sun > > > > > in H10. Hence, the transit of the Sun may actually only add to > > > the > > > > > difficulty of problems facing President Bush in the coming week > > > or > > > > > two. We will see how things turn out. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > White House: Millions of e-mails may be missing > > > > > POSTED: 7:07 p.m. EDT, April 13, 2007 > > > > > Story Highlights. NEW: White House spokeswoman says 5 million > > > > > official e-mails may be missing > > > > > . White House admits it should have kept e-mails on private GOP > > > system > > > > > . Chairman of Senate Judiciary Committee doubts e-mails are > > > deleted > > > > > . Committee investigating whether U.S. attorneys' firings were > > > > > politically motivated > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Millions of White House e-mails may be > > > missing, > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino acknowledged Friday. > > > > > > > > > > " I wouldn't rule out that there were a potential 5 million e- > > > mails > > > > > lost, " Perino told reporters. > > > > > > > > > > The administration was already facing sharp questions about > > > whether > > > > > top presidential advisers including Karl Rove improperly used > > > > > Republican National Committee e-mail that the White House said > > > later > > > > > disappeared. > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > The following six news headlines on DrudgeReport.com today > > > about > > > > > the > > > > > > policy debate in the USA over the war in Iraq give a > > > fascinating > > > > > > overview of the current political situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats Escalate Iraq War Debate... > > > > > > Reid May Move to Cut Funds... > > > > > > CHENEY: MILITARY ANSWERS TO ONE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF... > > > > > > House Republicans Have Votes To Sustain Veto... > > > > > > Hillary Challenges Veto Threat... > > > > > > Bush Rips Dems Over War Funding... > > > > > > > > > > > > These news headlines show clearly what an epic power struggle > > > has > > > > > > developed between the Democratically controlled Congress > > > > > (Legislative > > > > > > branch of government) and the Republican controlled White House > > > > > > (Executive branch of government). The problems for President > > > Bush > > > > > are > > > > > > indeed significant at this time. > > > > > > > > > > > > These problems are clearly reflected in the SAMVA USA chart, > > > with > > > > > > transit L8 Saturn having reached 24° 24' Cancer H1 in > > > opposition to > > > > > > natal L2 Sun at 23° 45' Capricorn. Saturn will become > > > stationary > > > > > at > > > > > > 24° 11' Cancer in the third week of April, In terms of this > > > aspect, > > > > > > the greatest strain for the indications of the Sun should be > > > felt. > > > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned in other posts there are numerous other aspects to > > > > > > consider, not least the stationary nodes impact on the house > > > MEPs > > > > > and > > > > > > natal L4 Venus in H6 and the impact of transit L6 Jupiter in H5 > > > on > > > > > > transit L8 Saturn in H1. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two news items have appeared this weekend signalling > > > difficulty > > > > > for > > > > > > > President Bush, also related to 4th house matters. One has to > > > do > > > > > > with > > > > > > > emission of greenhouse gasses. The other story has to do with > > > > > > > regulations concerning logging in wildlife areas. Bush had > > > > > proposed > > > > > > > more freedom, but the judge insisted that environmental > > > > > > > considerations be brought into the picture, reversing the > > > > > > regulation. > > > > > > > Such stories show the impact of the present transits in the > > > SAMVA > > > > > > USA > > > > > > > chart with regard to L2 Sun and L4 Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Split court rules against Bush on greenhouse gases > > > > > > > POSTED: 10:50 a.m. EDT, April 2, 2007 > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ordered the federal > > > > > government > > > > > > > on Monday to take a fresh look at regulating carbon dioxide > > > > > > emissions > > > > > > > from cars, a rebuke to Bush administration policy on global > > > > > warming. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a 5-4 decision, the court said the Clean Air Act gives the > > > > > > > Environmental Protection Agency the authority to regulate the > > > > > > > emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from > > > cars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/02/scotus.greenhousegas.ap/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional clarification. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, there is an unusual amount of adverse transit > > > impacts > > > > > > > active > > > > > > > > at present in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by > > > you > > > > > and > > > > > > > > take part in > > > > > > > > > making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting > > > > > > situations > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at > > > the > > > > > > > highest > > > > > > > > level in > > > > > > > > > US. I was partially looking into the aspect of conflicts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional insights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit > > > > > nodes > > > > > > on > > > > > > > H2 > > > > > > > > > MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in > > > turn > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to > > > explain > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on > > > > > natal > > > > > > L2 > > > > > > > > > Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8 > > > Saturn > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the > > > > > indications > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > close > > > > > > > > > > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu > > > axis > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > showing the > > > > > > > > > > impact of current affliction in the chart in a > > > pronounced > > > > > > > manner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The > > > > > Democratically > > > > > > > > > > controlled Congress since last November has begun to > > > show > > > > > its > > > > > > > > teeth > > > > > > > > > > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the > > > > > > > President, > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has > > > been > > > > > > > passed > > > > > > > > > > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from > > > > > Iraq. > > > > > > > > > > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared > > > the > > > > > US > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President > > > now > > > > > has > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in > > > both > > > > > > > > chambers > > > > > > > > > > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a > > > > > > development > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even > > > > > > further, > > > > > > > > > > adding to the problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and > > > period > > > > > > > > > dynmamics > > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn > > > in > > > > > H1 > > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart > > > Saturn > > > > > > rules > > > > > > > > > > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such > > > affliction. > > > > > > > > > Moreover, > > > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of > > > the 'executive' > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up > > > in > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In > > > coming > > > > > > > days > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the > > > > > conditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This and other political developments show clearly that > > > the > > > > > > > > > prediction > > > > > > > > > > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the > > > > > Spring > > > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > > > is being realised. The chart also suggests the > > > intensity of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > > > half of May. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote > > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto > > > > > > > > > > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from > > > funding > > > > > bill > > > > > > > > > > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes > > > failure > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > Iraq > > > > > > > > > > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, > > > sets > > > > > > > March > > > > > > > > > 2008 > > > > > > > > > > deadline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the > > > Democratic- > > > > > led > > > > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for > > > U.S. > > > > > > > > > withdrawal > > > > > > > > > > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, > > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two- thirds > > > > > majority > > > > > > > > needed > > > > > > > > > > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a > > > sign > > > > > of > > > > > > > > growing > > > > > > > > > > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of > > > the > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American > > > > > people, " > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > Sen. > > > > > > > > > > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be > > > > > > heeded > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > president and by the government of Iraq. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin > > > > > > withdrawing > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next > > > > > March. > > > > > > A > > > > > > > > > > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on > > > training > > > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > > > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R- Kentucky, > > > said > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo > > > to > > > > > our > > > > > > > > enemies > > > > > > > > > > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the > > > day we > > > > > > > > leave, " > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we > > > > > plan > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > walk > > > > > > > > > > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we > > > > > leave > > > > > > > > > behind. " > > > > > > > > > > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 > > > billion > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > approved for this year and would drive the price tag > > > for the > > > > > > > > > > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. > > > The > > > > > > > Pentagon > > > > > > > > > > says it would have to start diverting funds from other > > > > > > programs > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives > > > with > > > > > an > > > > > > > > August > > > > > > > > > > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any > > > > > bill > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he > > > considers > > > > > > > > > extraneous > > > > > > > > > > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure > > > > > > > > as " political > > > > > > > > > > theater. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that > > > threat > > > > > > > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in > > > the > > > > > > > field, > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This > > > and > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at > > > > > grave > > > > > > > > risk, > > > > > > > > > > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's > > > > > plans > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. > > > commander > > > > > > > outline > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > concerns Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority > > > fell > > > > > > short > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. > > > > > > > Republicans > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous > > > statements > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would > > > not > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this > > > case > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > " it's important to get the money to the troops. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call > > > for a > > > > > > > > pullout > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy > > > mistake of > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > time " > > > > > > > > > > to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it > > > is > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White > > > House > > > > > > > > hustling > > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a > > > > > > possible > > > > > > > > tie. > > > > > > > > > > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid > > > > > acknowledged, " We > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > > know how it's going to turn out. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and > > > Gordon > > > > > > > Smith > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP- > > > backed > > > > > > > > amendment. > > > > > > > > > > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people are demanding that we develop a > > > > > > bipartisan > > > > > > > > > > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit > > > strategy > > > > > from > > > > > > > > Iraq, " > > > > > > > > > > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential > > > > > candidate. " If > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > fail > > > > > > > > > > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, > > > > > > America > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will > > > have > > > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > > recovering from in the years ahead. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined > > > Connecticut > > > > > > > > independent > > > > > > > > > > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. > > > And > > > > > > > Virginia > > > > > > > > > > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan > > > to > > > > > > send > > > > > > > > > 30,000 > > > > > > > > > > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on > > > > > > Tuesday's > > > > > > > > vote, > > > > > > > > > > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the > > > bugle > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > retreat. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in > > > Iraq > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > coalition forces have begun to take the first step > > > > > > backwards, " > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services > > > > > > > > > Committee. " We > > > > > > > > > > cannot take that step -- not at this time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear David and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the > > > US > > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > clearly above normal levels these days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for > > > the > > > > > > > > > military. It > > > > > > > > > > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is > > > opposite > > > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > > L8 > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine > > > officers, > > > > > > > including > > > > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > > > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in > > > the > > > > > > > aftermath > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, > > > AP > > > > > > reports > > > > > > > > > citing > > > > > > > > > > > senior defense officials. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " > > > <david@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear thor... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------- ------ > > > ---- > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary > > > J. > > > > > > > Steven > > > > > > > > > Griles > > > > > > > > > > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest- > > > ranking > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > > > administration official convicted in the Jack > > > Abramoff > > > > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > > > scandal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior > > > Department > > > > > > > admitted > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his > > > > > > > relationship > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought > > > Griles' > > > > > > > > > > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's > > > Indian > > > > > > > tribal > > > > > > > > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for > > > testifying > > > > > > > > falsely > > > > > > > > > > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on > > > November 2, > > > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's > > > > > investigators > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > > > 20, 2005. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the > > > > > > > > > responsibility for > > > > > > > > > > > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles > > > said > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > > > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, > > > they > > > > > > must > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place > > > to > > > > > > > decide > > > > > > > > > > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. > > > I > > > > > > > > apologize > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > cosmologer > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal > > > Sun > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA USA > > > > > > > > > > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of > > > obstacles > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > thrown in > > > > > > > > > > > > the way of President Bush. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > > > > > > > > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to > > > require > > > > > > > > > President > > > > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall > > > 2008, > > > > > > > despite > > > > > > > > > a White > > > > > > > > > > > > House veto threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted > > > > > Friday > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > order > > > > > > > > > > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from > > > Iraq > > > > > > next > > > > > > > > > year, a > > > > > > > > > > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers > > > struggle > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Congress' > > > > > > > > > > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's > > > policy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers > > > voted > > > > > 218- > > > > > > > 212, > > > > > > > > > mostly > > > > > > > > > > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill > > > requiring > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > combat > > > > > > > > > > > > operations cease before September 2008, or > > > earlier if > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > > > > > government does not meet certain requirements. > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > it was > > > > > > > > > > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep > > > last > > > > > > > > > November, > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the > > > > > president's > > > > > > > > > conduct of > > > > > > > > > > > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D- > > > > > > Calif. " The > > > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > > > > people see the reality of the war, the president > > > does > > > > > > > not. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush > > > warned > > > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday to > > > > > > > > > > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify > > > about the > > > > > > > > > firings of > > > > > > > > > > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not > > > under > > > > > oath > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > risk a > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not > > > > > back > > > > > > > down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift > > > and > > > > > > firm: > > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > > > said they > > > > > > > > > > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as > > > > > > Wednesday > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > > > > > > House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under > > > oath. > > > > > > > That's > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > formula > > > > > > > > > > > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, > > > > > > chairman > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the > > > White > > > > > > House, > > > > > > > > > said, > > > > > > > > > > > " We will > > > > > > > > > > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition > > > > > aimed > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > honorable > > > > > > > > > > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a > > > reasonable > > > > > way > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > avoid an > > > > > > > > > > > > > impasse. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him > > > and > > > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > natural to > > > > > > > > > > > > > consider replacing them. " There is no > > > indication > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > anybody did > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, > > > Alberto > > > > > > > > Gonzales, > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > boost > > > > > > > > > > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day > > > with > > > > > a > > > > > > > > public > > > > > > > > > > > statement > > > > > > > > > > > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales > > > of > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > authority to > > > > > > > > > > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate > > > > > > > confirmation. > > > > > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House > > > > > purged > > > > > > > > eight > > > > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > > > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading > > > political > > > > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > > > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot > > > Act > > > > > gave > > > > > > > > > > Gonzales the > > > > > > > > > > > > > new authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential > > > hopefuls > > > > > > > Hillary > > > > > > > > > Rodham > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John > > > Edwards, > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > called for > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a > > > handful > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Republican > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal > > > really > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > > intimidation > > > > > > > > > > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " > > > said > > > > > > Sen. > > > > > > > > > Sheldon > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who > > > > > spent > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released > > > by > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Justice > > > > > > > > > > > > Department. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred > > > Fielding, > > > > > told > > > > > > > > > lawmakers > > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl > > > Rove, > > > > > > former > > > > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies- but > > > only > > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > president's > > > > > > > > > > > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an > > > oath " > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > without a > > > > > > > > > > > > > transcript. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually > > > > > > unprecedented > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the > > > > > > information > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > needs > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward > > > and > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > the right > > > > > > > > > > > > > information, they ought to accept what I > > > proposed, " > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > said. " If > > > > > > > > > > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then > > > the > > > > > > > rejection > > > > > > > > > of this > > > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for > > > the > > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > > > people to > > > > > > > > > > > > > see. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court > > > any > > > > > > > attempt > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > subpoena > > > > > > > > > > > > > White House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in > > > constant > > > > > > fear > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > hauled > > > > > > > > > > > > > before various committees to discuss internal > > > > > > > > > deliberations, the > > > > > > > > > > > > > president would not receive candid advice and > > > the > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the > > > > > > situation > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > gotten to > > > > > > > > > > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., > > > for > > > > > you. > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > > > > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate > > > probe > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > firings, > > > > > > > > > > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the > > > White > > > > > > > House: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk > > > to > > > > > > them, > > > > > > > > > but not > > > > > > > > > > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom > > > of > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally > > > > > > > required > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > tell the > > > > > > > > > > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of > > > their > > > > > > > > > comments, " it > > > > > > > > > > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they > > > would > > > > > be > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > kind > > > > > > > > > > > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few > > > hours > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > > spoke > > > > > > > > > > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call- > > > their > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > conversation > > > > > > > > > > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes > > > by his > > > > > > > > > longtime > > > > > > > > > > friend > > > > > > > > > > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for > > > > > Gonzales' > > > > > > > > > ouster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews > > > with > > > > > > Rove, > > > > > > > > > Miers, > > > > > > > > > > > deputy > > > > > > > > > > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott > > > > > > > Jennings, > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > deputy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who > > > > > works > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > Rove. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > need for > > > > > > > > > > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or > > > the > > > > > > > > subsequent > > > > > > > > > > issuance > > > > > > > > > > > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking > > > Republicans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice > > > > > > > Department " do > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > reflect > > > > > > > > > > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to > > > interfere > > > > > with > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > pending or > > > > > > > > > > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other > > > > > > improper > > > > > > > > > reason. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven > > > contributed > > > > > to > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > repo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another > > > health > > > > > > > > incident > > > > > > > > > > today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > scandal > > > > > > > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General > > > this > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > confirm his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for > > > him to > > > > > > > resign > > > > > > > > > or be > > > > > > > > > > > > removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary > > > Committee > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > insisted > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the > > > President, > > > > > > testify > > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > > oath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before the committee about his role in the > > > > > firings > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > eight US > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to > > > > > have > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > > interviewed but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > consistent with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 > > > Sun > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > H2, > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > well as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 > > > Sun > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in > > > leg > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > clot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment > > > after > > > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > > > in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with blood clot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with > > > clot > > > > > > > > > discovered in > > > > > > > > > > > > February > > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after > > > treatment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart- related > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney > > > > > went > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday > > > morning > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > experiencing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a > > > blood > > > > > > clot > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > discovered a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was > > > > > asked > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > return > > > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the > > > > > deep > > > > > > > > venous > > > > > > > > > > > thrombosis, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan > > > > > McGinn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or > > > > > > complication > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > clot, " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was > > > > > found > > > > > > to > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > therapeutic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > > course of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume > > > his > > > > > > > normal > > > > > > > > > > > schedule, she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a > > > > > blood > > > > > > > clot > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the vice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that > > > he > > > > > > likely > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > have to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for > > > > > several > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time > > > > > that > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > 66-year-old had > > > > > > > > > > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after > > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > > minor > > > > > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood > > > clot - > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > called a > > > > > > > > > > deep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can > > > become > > > > > > > > killers > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is > > > > > called a > > > > > > > > > pulmonary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an > > > > > estimated > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > million > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after > > > spending > > > > > long > > > > > > > > > periods > > > > > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul > > > airline > > > > > > > flights. > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney had > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a > > > nine- > > > > > day, > > > > > > > > > > > round-the-world > > > > > > > > > > > > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart- related > > > > > problems > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in > > > 2005 > > > > > to > > > > > > > > repair > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > kind of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery > > > > > that > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > burst > > > > > > > > > > > if left > > > > > > > > > > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, > > > > > quadruple > > > > > > > > bypass > > > > > > > > > > > surgery, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an > > > > > operation > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > implant a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the > > > Vice > > > > > > > > > President, the > > > > > > > > > > > > perjury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the > > > resignation > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Secretary of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems > > > > > > facing > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated > > > > > > > > > congressional > > > > > > > > > > > > hearings on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim > > > > > they > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > fired for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat > > > by > > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > > > military > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As > > > that > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > enough, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the background to these more recent > > > > > developments > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > ongoing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and > > > civilian > > > > > > > > > > casulaties. The > > > > > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > all at > > > > > > > > > > > > once are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions > > > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > > both the > > > > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice > > > > > President > > > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > > > had been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, > > > after > > > > > > > > returning > > > > > > > > > > from a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grueling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health > > > setback > > > > > > raises > > > > > > > > > > > questions about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job > > > but > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > fitness to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President > > > Bush > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > reason is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to > > > Vice > > > > > > > > President > > > > > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political > > > > > scandal. > > > > > > > Many > > > > > > > > > see the > > > > > > > > > > > > aide as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the > > > Vice > > > > > > > > > President. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent > > > with > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > transit and > > > > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA > > > USA > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood > > > > > clot > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > leg > > > > > > > > > > > and is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, > > > his > > > > > > office > > > > > > > > > has said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower > > > left > > > > > leg > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work > > > after > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > examination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood- thinning > > > > > > > medication > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac > > > > > > problems. > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > suffered > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate > > > heartbeat in > > > > > > 2001 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis > > > (DVT) - > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > often > > > > > > > > > > > associated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the > > > > > > reduced > > > > > > > air > > > > > > > > > > > pressure and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of > > > > > > inactivity > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > dehydration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots > > > themselves > > > > > are > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > life-threatening > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become > > > wedged in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lungs or > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be > > > fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA > > > leak > > > > > case > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " > > > Libby, > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > former top > > > > > > > > > > > aide to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted > > > on > > > > > > > Tuesday > > > > > > > > > of four > > > > > > > > > > > > counts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury > > > during > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > investigation > > > > > > > > > > > > tied > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys > > > promptly > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > seek a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of > > > lying to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > FBI > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the probe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a > > > CIA > > > > > > > analyst > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > 2003. He > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense > > > > > > attorney > > > > > > > > > Theodore > > > > > > > > > > > Wells > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would > > > > > > appeal > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 CONGRATULATIONS, DEAR THOR, JOHN, ET AL... GREAT WORK! DAVID HAWTHORNE - siha SAMVA Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:40 AM Re: Re: Problems for the US Presidency Hello my dear Thor,The events in the last one and a half month show without any doubt that SAMVA US chart with Cancer ascendant responds best of all charts proposed.Best wishes.- "cosmologer" <cosmologer<SAMVA >Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:24 PM Re: Problems for the US PresidencyDear friends,The problems for the close associates of President Bush continue. PaulWolfowitz, President of the World Bank, is also taking his lumps thesedays for acts considered improper. Wolfowitz is considered one of thearchitechts of the War in Iraq. Gonzales at the Justice Departmentseems to have weathered the storm.The aspects with regard to the obstacles faced by the President areabout to reach their peak. However, the aspect of Jupiter to Saturn isyet to become exact. The nodes, which are now again moving, are alsoabout to become exactly conjunct the MEP of the chart. We have abouttwo more weeks of difficult transits to witness. So, a lot could stillhappen.As an aside, the problem with the US Congress being obstructionistconcerning foreign policy initiatives of a sitting President isapparently nothing new. This is emerging from a reading of the book by Niall Ferguson, Colossus. This feature of American political life isconsistent with L8 Saturn aspecting L2 Sun in the SAMVA USA chart.Best wishes,ThorAgency investigating Rove's political operationPOSTED: 9:51 p.m. EDT, April 24, 2007Story Highlights. Federal agency investigating Karl Rove and other White House officials. Presentations made by White House aides might have violated Hatch Act. Hatch Act protects federal employees from political coercion. Agency also investigating GOP e-mail accounts, attorney firings>From Ed Henry, CNN Washington BureauWASHINGTON (CNN) -- A small federal agency responsible forsafeguarding federal employees from political coercion has launched anextensive investigation into the activities of the White House'spolitical operation and its architect, Karl Rove. The U.S. Office ofSpecial Counsel is looking into whether Rove -- President Bush'slongtime trusted political strategist -- or other White House aidesviolated federal law by making political presentations to governmentemployees in the run-up to last year's midterm elections. "We will doa thorough job. We will not leave any stone unturned," said ScottBloch, a Kansas lawyer appointed by Bush to head the agency in 2003."We will be fair, we will be impartial, and we will be thorough."Bloch confirmed that Rove will be a focus of his investigation. "Mr.Rove is a respected individual in the White House, and we plan to doour job with professionalism," he said.SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer wrote:>> Bush Won't Accept Iraq War Timetable> Apr 24 12:29 PM US/Eastern> By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer>> WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush, standing firmly against a timetable> for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq, said Tuesday that he will veto> the latest war spending bill taking shape in Congress. "I'm> disappointed that the Democratic leadership has chosen this course,"> Bush said. "They chose to make a political statement," he said.> "That's their right but it is wrong for our troops and it's wrong for> our country. To accept the bill proposed by the Democratic leadership> would be to accept a policy that directly contradicts the judgment of> our military commanders.">> House and Senate Democratic appropriators agreed Monday on a $124> billion bill that would fund the Iraq war but order troops to begin> leaving by Oct. 1 with the goal of completing the pullout six months> later. Democrats would need a two-thirds majority to override a> presidential veto. Democrats said they won't back down and pointed to> past remarks by Gen. David Petraeus, the new Iraq commander, that> security in Iraq requires a political solution. Senate Majority Leader> Harry Reid, D-Nev., who says the war in Iraq is "lost," likened Bush> to President Lyndon Johnson, saying Johnson ordered troop escalations> in Vietnam in an attempt "to save his political legacy" only to watch> U.S. casualties climb steadily.>> Bush said U.S. troops should not be caught in the middle of a showdown> between the White House and Congress. "Yesterday, Democratic leaders> announced that they planned to send me a bill that will fund our> troops only if we agree to handcuff our generals, add billions of> dollars of unrelated spending and begin to pull out of Iraq by an> arbitrary date," Bush said on the South Lawn. He said the bill would> mandate the withdrawal of U.S. troops beginning as early as July 1 and> no later than Oct. 1, despite the fact that Petraeus has not yet> received all the reinforcements he has said he needs in the latest> military buildup to help secure Baghdad and the troubled Anbar Province.>> Democrats have argued that the election that left Democrats in control> of Congress was a referendum for a change of strategy in Iraq. Bush> used the same election results to argue his point.>> "The American people did not vote for failure," he said. "That is> precisely what the Democratic leadership's bill would guarantee. "It's> not too late for Congress to do the right thing.">> [snip]>> Under the nonbinding timeline, all combat troops would be withdrawn by> April 1, 2008.>> [snip]>> SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> wrote:> >> > Dear friends,> >> > More problems for the President this week.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Thor> >> > Congress set to defy Bush on Iraq war> > Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:08pm ET> > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A fight between the U.S. Congress and> > President George W. Bush over the Iraq war is set to come to a head> > this week when Democrats are expected to send him $100 billion to pay> > for continuing combat while setting timetables for withdrawing troops.> > Bush has promised to veto any bill setting dates for removing U.S.> > combat soldiers from the Iraq war, now in its fifth year.But when a> > Democratic-controlled panel of Senate and House of Representatives> > members meets on Monday to iron out differences between their> > respective bills, the product is expected to contain 2008 withdrawal> > dates.> >> >> >> > SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear list members,> > >> > > A relentless barrage of problems continues to land in the lap of> > > President Bush.> > >> > > 1. A top ranking Democrat has publically announced that he directly> > > told President Bush that the war in Iraq is lost "politically,> > > militarily and economically".> > >> > > 2. A senator has also demanded that the head of the Justice> > > Department, Gonzales, resign. Earlier Gonzales personally apologised> > > for the firings of the 8 US justices, thereby assuming> > responsibility> > > for the fiasco.> > >> > > The problems should be even greater next week in light of the> > transits> > > impacting the strength of transit and natal Sun in the SAMVA USA> > > chart. We will soon see.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > Thor> > >> > >> > > 1.> > > Iraq war is 'lost': US Democrat leader> > > Apr 19 02:45 PM US/Eastern> > >> > > The war in Iraq "is lost" and a US troop surge is failing to bring> > > peace to the country, the leader of the Democratic majority in the> > US> > > Congress, Harry Reid, said Thursday. "I believe ... that this war is> > > lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by> > the> > > extreme violence in Iraq this week," Reid told journalists. Reid> > said> > > he had delivered the same message to US President George W. Bush on> > > Wednesday, when the US president met with senior lawmakers to> > discuss> > > how to end a standoff over an emergency war funding bill. "I know I> > > was the odd guy out at the White House, but I told him at least what> > > he needed to hear ... I believe the war at this stage can only be> > won> > > diplomatically, politically and economically." Congress is seeking> > to> > > tie funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to a timetable to> > > withdraw US troops from Iraq next year, but Bush has vowed to veto> > any> > > such bill and no breakthrough was reported from the White House> > talks.> > > Bush on Thursday was addressing an Ohio town hall meeting and> > > defending the war on terror launched in the wake of the September> > 11,> > > 2001 attacks. "It is the most solemn duty of our country, is to> > > protect our country from harm," Bush told the invited audience in> > > Tipp, Ohio.> > >> > > "A lesson learned was that -- at least in my opinion -- that in> > order> > > to protect us, we must aggressively pursue the enemy and defeat them> > > elsewhere so that we do not have to face them here."> > >> > > 2.> > > Republican senator calls for Gonzales to quit> > > POSTED: 4:14 p.m. EDT, April 19, 2007> > > Story Highlights> > > . NEW: Republican Sen. Coburn urges Gonzales to resign> > > . Gonzales: Alleging partisanship is an attack on career Justice> > Dept.> > > employees> > > . Gonzales says he'll resign if he can no longer be an effective> > leader> > > . Sen. Arlen Specter questions attorney general on extent of> > involvement> > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales confronted a> > > fresh call for his resignation from a fellow Republican Thursday as> > he> > > struggled to survive a bipartisan Senate challenge to his> > credibility> > > in the case of eight fired prosecutors. Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom> > > Coburn told Gonzales that the situation was handled incompetently> > and> > > said there should be consequences. "The communication was atrocious.> > > It was inconsistent -- it's generous to say that there was> > > misstatements; it's a generous statement. And I believe you ought to> > > suffer the consequences that these others have suffered," Coburn> > said.> > > "And I believe the best way to put this behind us is your> > > resignation." Coburn is the first Republican on the Senate Judiciary> > > Committee to call for Gonzales' resignation.> > >> > > SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear list members,> > > >> > > > The problems facing the US Presidency are still numerous, and> > don´t> > > > seem to be fading away:> > > >> > > > - The death toll of US troops in Iraq keeps on mounting.> > > > - The head of the Justice Department, Gonzales, who has been> > strongly> > > > backed by President Bush, in his recent problems over the firings> > of> > > > justices, is again in hot water. Emails now show that he> > suggested> > > > replacing the justices one year before they were let go. This> > brings> > > > the matter right to his doorstep. If he is forced to step down> > that> > > > would be a setback for the President.> > > > - Another close associate of President Bush, Wolfowitz, head of> > the> > > > World Bank, is now in hot water over the pay raise he arranged> > for> > > > his girlfriend. While the scandal is not as big as some others it> > is> > > > being seized upon to try to get rid of this appointy of President> > > > Bush. Many countries were upset when a symbol of US arrogance and> > > > unilateral actions of the US in the world was appointed to this> > body> > > > and would like to get rid of him. If they succeed it would be a> > > > setback for President Bush.> > > > - a story is now in the news that 5 million emails in the White> > House> > > > are missing. The loss of emails came to light when an inquiry was> > > > launched into allegations that Karl Rove, the chief political> > advisor> > > > to the President, had used offical email for political purposes,> > > > which is banned by law. If the allegations are proven, it would> > be> > > > another setback for the President.> > > >> > > > In other words, there are continuing problems for President Bush,> > > > which is not surprising in view of the transits in the SAMVA USA> > > > chart, notably the aspect of transit L8 Saturn to natal L2 Sun.> > The> > > > afflictions involving transit L6 Jupiter and L8 Saturn are making> > > > this aspect more difficult. In general, the difficult aspects> > will> > > > only become more difficult in the coming four weeks or so. One> > > > helpful transit is that L2 Sun has now entered the sign Aries> > (and> > > > H10) where it is exalted. While that would ordinarily be likely> > to> > > > help the US President, L10 Mars is now in H8 and about to become> > > > conjunct transit Rahu. This would undermine the strength of the> > Sun> > > > in H10. Hence, the transit of the Sun may actually only add to> > the> > > > difficulty of problems facing President Bush in the coming week> > or> > > > two. We will see how things turn out.> > > >> > > > Best wishes,> > > >> > > > Thor> > > >> > > > White House: Millions of e-mails may be missing> > > > POSTED: 7:07 p.m. EDT, April 13, 2007> > > > Story Highlights. NEW: White House spokeswoman says 5 million> > > > official e-mails may be missing> > > > . White House admits it should have kept e-mails on private GOP> > system> > > > . Chairman of Senate Judiciary Committee doubts e-mails are> > deleted> > > > . Committee investigating whether U.S. attorneys' firings were> > > > politically motivated> > > >> > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Millions of White House e-mails may be> > missing,> > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino acknowledged Friday.> > > >> > > > "I wouldn't rule out that there were a potential 5 million e-> > mails> > > > lost," Perino told reporters.> > > >> > > > The administration was already facing sharp questions about> > whether> > > > top presidential advisers including Karl Rove improperly used> > > > Republican National Committee e-mail that the White House said> > later> > > > disappeared.> > > >> > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear list members,> > > > >> > > > > The following six news headlines on DrudgeReport.com today> > about> > > > the> > > > > policy debate in the USA over the war in Iraq give a> > fascinating> > > > > overview of the current political situation.> > > > >> > > > > Democrats Escalate Iraq War Debate...> > > > > Reid May Move to Cut Funds...> > > > > CHENEY: MILITARY ANSWERS TO ONE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF...> > > > > House Republicans Have Votes To Sustain Veto...> > > > > Hillary Challenges Veto Threat...> > > > > Bush Rips Dems Over War Funding...> > > > >> > > > > These news headlines show clearly what an epic power struggle> > has> > > > > developed between the Democratically controlled Congress> > > > (Legislative> > > > > branch of government) and the Republican controlled White House> > > > > (Executive branch of government). The problems for President> > Bush> > > > are> > > > > indeed significant at this time.> > > > >> > > > > These problems are clearly reflected in the SAMVA USA chart,> > with> > > > > transit L8 Saturn having reached 24° 24' Cancer H1 in> > opposition to> > > > > natal L2 Sun at 23° 45' Capricorn. Saturn will become> > stationary> > > > at> > > > > 24° 11' Cancer in the third week of April, In terms of this> > aspect,> > > > > the greatest strain for the indications of the Sun should be> > felt.> > > > >> > > > > As mentioned in other posts there are numerous other aspects to> > > > > consider, not least the stationary nodes impact on the house> > MEPs> > > > and> > > > > natal L4 Venus in H6 and the impact of transit L6 Jupiter in H5> > on> > > > > transit L8 Saturn in H1.> > > > >> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Thor> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear friends,> > > > > >> > > > > > Two news items have appeared this weekend signalling> > difficulty> > > > for> > > > > > President Bush, also related to 4th house matters. One has to> > do> > > > > with> > > > > > emission of greenhouse gasses. The other story has to do with> > > > > > regulations concerning logging in wildlife areas. Bush had> > > > proposed> > > > > > more freedom, but the judge insisted that environmental> > > > > > considerations be brought into the picture, reversing the> > > > > regulation.> > > > > > Such stories show the impact of the present transits in the> > SAMVA> > > > > USA> > > > > > chart with regard to L2 Sun and L4 Venus.> > > > > >> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > >> > > > > > Thor> > > > > >> > > > > > Split court rules against Bush on greenhouse gases> > > > > > POSTED: 10:50 a.m. EDT, April 2, 2007> > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ordered the federal> > > > government> > > > > > on Monday to take a fresh look at regulating carbon dioxide> > > > > emissions> > > > > > from cars, a rebuke to Bush administration policy on global> > > > warming.> > > > > >> > > > > > In a 5-4 decision, the court said the Clean Air Act gives the> > > > > > Environmental Protection Agency the authority to regulate the> > > > > > emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from> > cars.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/02/scotus.greenhousegas.ap/index.html> > > > > >> > > > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@>> > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear ,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thank you for the additional clarification.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Indeed, there is an unusual amount of adverse transit> > impacts> > > > > > active> > > > > > > at present in the SAMVA USA chart.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by> > you> > > > and> > > > > > > take part in> > > > > > > > making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting> > > > > situations> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at> > the> > > > > > highest> > > > > > > level in> > > > > > > > US. I was partially looking into the aspect of conflicts.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Best wishes.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > "cosmologer" <cosmologer@>> > > > > > > > <SAMVA >> > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM> > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear ,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional insights.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit> > > > nodes> > > > > on> > > > > > H2> > > > > > > > MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in> > turn> > > > its> > > > > > > > affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to> > explain> > > > these> > > > > > > > events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on> > > > natal> > > > > L2> > > > > > > > Sun?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8> > Saturn> > > > on> > > > > > > > natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the> > > > indications> > > > > of> > > > > > > > the Sun?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts> > and> > > > the> > > > > > > > close> > > > > > > > > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu> > axis> > > > > are> > > > > > > > showing the> > > > > > > > > impact of current affliction in the chart in a> > pronounced> > > > > > manner.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Best wishes.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > "cosmologer" <cosmologer@>> > > > > > > > > <SAMVA >> > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM> > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear friends,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The> > > > Democratically> > > > > > > > > controlled Congress since last November has begun to> > show> > > > its> > > > > > > teeth> > > > > > > > > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the> > > > > > President,> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has> > been> > > > > > passed> > > > > > > > > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from> > > > Iraq.> > > > > > > > > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared> > the> > > > US> > > > > > > should> > > > > > > > > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President> > now> > > > has> > > > > > only> > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in> > both> > > > > > > chambers> > > > > > > > > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a> > > > > development> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even> > > > > further,> > > > > > > > > adding to the problems.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and> > period> > > > > > > > dynmamics> > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn> > in> > > > H1> > > > > > now> > > > > > > > > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart> > Saturn> > > > > rules> > > > > > > > > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader> > of> > > > the> > > > > > > > > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such> > affliction.> > > > > > > > Moreover,> > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of> > the 'executive'> > > > > and> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up> > in> > > > > this> > > > > > > > > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In> > coming> > > > > > days> > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the> > > > conditions.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This and other political developments show clearly that> > the> > > > > > > > prediction> > > > > > > > > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the> > > > Spring> > > > > > > > months> > > > > > > > > is being realised. The chart also suggests the> > intensity of> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate> > in> > > > the> > > > > > > second> > > > > > > > > half of May.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote> > > > > > > > > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007> > > > > > > > > Story Highlights> > > > > > > > > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto> > > > > > > > > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from> > funding> > > > bill> > > > > > > > > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes> > failure> > > > > in> > > > > > > Iraq> > > > > > > > > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan,> > sets> > > > > > March> > > > > > > > 2008> > > > > > > > > deadline> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the> > Democratic-> > > > led> > > > > > > > Senate> > > > > > > > > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for> > U.S.> > > > > > > > withdrawal> > > > > > > > > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill,> > Tuesday.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds> > > > majority> > > > > > > needed> > > > > > > > > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a> > sign> > > > of> > > > > > > growing> > > > > > > > > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "This is a strong message which amplifies the action of> > the> > > > > > House> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American> > > > people,"> > > > > > said> > > > > > > > Sen.> > > > > > > > > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. "It's a message that must be> > > > > heeded> > > > > > by> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > president and by the government of Iraq."> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin> > > > > withdrawing> > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next> > > > March.> > > > > A> > > > > > > > > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on> > training> > > > > > Iraqi> > > > > > > > > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky,> > said> > > > that> > > > > > > > > effectively sets a "surrender date" in the war.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo> > to> > > > our> > > > > > > enemies> > > > > > > > > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the> > day we> > > > > > > leave,"> > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > said. "It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we> > > > plan> > > > > to> > > > > > > walk> > > > > > > > > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we> > > > leave> > > > > > > > behind."> > > > > > > > > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70> > billion> > > > > > already> > > > > > > > > approved for this year and would drive the price tag> > for the> > > > > > > > > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark.> > The> > > > > > Pentagon> > > > > > > > > says it would have to start diverting funds from other> > > > > programs> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives> > with> > > > an> > > > > > > August> > > > > > > > > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any> > > > bill> > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he> > considers> > > > > > > > extraneous> > > > > > > > > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure> > > > > > > as "political> > > > > > > > > theater."> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that> > threat> > > > > > > Tuesday.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in> > the> > > > > > field,> > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > bill would require their withdrawal," she said. "This> > and> > > > > other> > > > > > > > > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at> > > > grave> > > > > > > risk,> > > > > > > > > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's> > > > plans> > > > > to> > > > > > > > > develop the Iraqi economy." (Watch the top U.S.> > commander> > > > > > outline> > > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > concerns Video)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority> > fell> > > > > short> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal.> > > > > > Republicans> > > > > > > had> > > > > > > > > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous> > statements> > > > of> > > > > > > > > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would> > not> > > > > use> > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this> > case> > > > > > because> > > > > > > > > "it's important to get the money to the troops."> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call> > for a> > > > > > > pullout> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > a step toward bringing "the worst foreign policy> > mistake of> > > > > our> > > > > > > > time"> > > > > > > > > to an end.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it> > is> > > > > their> > > > > > > > > country. It is their war. It is their future," he said.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White> > House> > > > > > > hustling> > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a> > > > > possible> > > > > > > tie.> > > > > > > > > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid> > > > acknowledged, "We> > > > > > don't> > > > > > > > > know how it's going to turn out."> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and> > Gordon> > > > > > Smith> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP-> > backed> > > > > > > amendment.> > > > > > > > > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "The American people are demanding that we develop a> > > > > bipartisan> > > > > > > > > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit> > strategy> > > > from> > > > > > > Iraq,"> > > > > > > > > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential> > > > candidate. "If> > > > > we> > > > > > > > fail> > > > > > > > > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy,> > > > > America> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will> > have> > > > > > > difficulty> > > > > > > > > recovering from in the years ahead."> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined> > Connecticut> > > > > > > independent> > > > > > > > > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership.> > And> > > > > > Virginia> > > > > > > > > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan> > to> > > > > send> > > > > > > > 30,000> > > > > > > > > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on> > > > > Tuesday's> > > > > > > vote,> > > > > > > > > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound "the> > bugle> > > > of> > > > > > > > retreat."> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in> > Iraq> > > > > that> > > > > > > > > coalition forces have begun to take the first step> > > > > backwards,"> > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services> > > > > > > > Committee. "We> > > > > > > > > cannot take that step -- not at this time."> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer"> > <cosmologer@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear David and list members,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the> > US> > > > > > > Presidency> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > clearly above normal levels these days.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for> > the> > > > > > > > military. It> > > > > > > > > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is> > opposite> > > > > > transit> > > > > > > > L8> > > > > > > > > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine> > officers,> > > > > > including> > > > > > > > up to> > > > > > > > > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in> > the> > > > > > aftermath> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman,> > AP> > > > > reports> > > > > > > > citing> > > > > > > > > > senior defense officials.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , "David Hawthorne"> > <david@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > dear thor...> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -----------------------> > ----> > > > --> > > > > --> > > > > > --> > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > ------------> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary> > J.> > > > > > Steven> > > > > > > > Griles> > > > > > > > > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a> > > > Senate> > > > > > > > > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest-> > ranking> > > > Bush> > > > > > > > > > administration official convicted in the Jack> > Abramoff> > > > > > > corruption> > > > > > > > > scandal.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior> > Department> > > > > > admitted> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his> > > > > > relationship> > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought> > Griles'> > > > > > > > > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's> > Indian> > > > > > tribal> > > > > > > > > clients.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for> > testifying> > > > > > > falsely> > > > > > > > > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on> > November 2,> > > > > > 2005,> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's> > > > investigators> > > > > on> > > > > > > > October> > > > > > > > > > 20, 2005.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > "I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the> > > > > > > > responsibility for> > > > > > > > > > my conduct and the consequences it may have," Griles> > said> > > > > in a> > > > > > > > > > statement. "When a Senate committee asks questions,> > they> > > > > must> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place> > to> > > > > > decide> > > > > > > > > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal.> > I> > > > > > > apologize> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff."> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > cosmologer> > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM> > > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US> > Presidency> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal> > Sun> > > > in> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > SAMVA USA> > > > > > > > > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of> > obstacles> > > > > > being> > > > > > > > > thrown in> > > > > > > > > > > the way of President Bush.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com:> > > > > > > > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to> > require> > > > > > > > President> > > > > > > > > Bush> > > > > > > > > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall> > 2008,> > > > > > despite> > > > > > > > a White> > > > > > > > > > > House veto threat.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq> > > > > > > > > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern> > > > > > > > > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY> > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press Writer> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted> > > > Friday> > > > > to> > > > > > > > order> > > > > > > > > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from> > Iraq> > > > > next> > > > > > > > year, a> > > > > > > > > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers> > struggle> > > > and> > > > > > > > Congress'> > > > > > > > > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's> > policy.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers> > voted> > > > 218-> > > > > > 212,> > > > > > > > mostly> > > > > > > > > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill> > requiring> > > > > that> > > > > > > > combat> > > > > > > > > > > operations cease before September 2008, or> > earlier if> > > > > the> > > > > > > > Iraqi> > > > > > > > > > > government does not meet certain requirements.> > > > > Democrats> > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > it was> > > > > > > > > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep> > last> > > > > > > > November,> > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > gave them control of Congress.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > "The American people have lost faith in the> > > > president's> > > > > > > > conduct of> > > > > > > > > > > this war," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-> > > > > Calif. "The> > > > > > > > American> > > > > > > > > > > people see the reality of the war, the president> > does> > > > > > not."> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer"> > > > <cosmologer@>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings> > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern> > > > > > > > > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush> > warned> > > > > > > Democrats> > > > > > > > > > Tuesday to> > > > > > > > > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify> > about the> > > > > > > > firings of> > > > > > > > > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not> > under> > > > oath> > > > > or> > > > > > > > risk a> > > > > > > > > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not> > > > back> > > > > > down.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift> > and> > > > > firm:> > > > > > > They> > > > > > > > > > said they> > > > > > > > > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as> > > > > Wednesday> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > White> > > > > > > > > > > > House aides.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > "Testimony should be on the record and under> > oath.> > > > > > That's> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > formula> > > > > > > > > > > > for true accountability," said Patrick Leahy,> > > > > chairman> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > Senate> > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary Committee.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the> > White> > > > > House,> > > > > > > > said,> > > > > > > > > > "We will> > > > > > > > > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition> > > > aimed> > > > > at> > > > > > > > honorable> > > > > > > > > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a> > reasonable> > > > way> > > > > to> > > > > > > > avoid an> > > > > > > > > > > > impasse."> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him> > and> > > > it> > > > > is> > > > > > > > > natural to> > > > > > > > > > > > consider replacing them. "There is no> > indication> > > > that> > > > > > > > anybody did> > > > > > > > > > > > anything improper," the president said.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general,> > Alberto> > > > > > > Gonzales,> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > boost> > > > > > > > > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day> > with> > > > a> > > > > > > public> > > > > > > > > > statement> > > > > > > > > > > > repeating it. "He's got support with me," Bush> > said.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales> > of> > > > his> > > > > > > > authority to> > > > > > > > > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate> > > > > > confirmation.> > > > > > > > > Democrats> > > > > > > > > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House> > > > purged> > > > > > > eight> > > > > > > > > federal> > > > > > > > > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading> > political> > > > > > > corruption> > > > > > > > > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot> > Act> > > > gave> > > > > > > > > Gonzales the> > > > > > > > > > > > new authority.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential> > hopefuls> > > > > > Hillary> > > > > > > > Rodham> > > > > > > > > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John> > Edwards,> > > > > have> > > > > > > > > called for> > > > > > > > > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a> > handful> > > > of> > > > > > > > Republican> > > > > > > > > > > > lawmakers.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > "What happened in this case sends a signal> > really> > > > > > through> > > > > > > > > > intimidation> > > > > > > > > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,'"> > said> > > > > Sen.> > > > > > > > Sheldon> > > > > > > > > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who> > > > spent> > > > > > much> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > Monday> > > > > > > > > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released> > by> > > > the> > > > > > > > Justice> > > > > > > > > > > Department.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred> > Fielding,> > > > told> > > > > > > > lawmakers> > > > > > > > > > they> > > > > > > > > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl> > Rove,> > > > > former> > > > > > > > White> > > > > > > > > House> > > > > > > > > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but> > only> > > > on> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > president's> > > > > > > > > > > > terms: in private, "without the need for an> > oath"> > > > and> > > > > > > > without a> > > > > > > > > > > > transcript.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually> > > > > unprecedented> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the> > > > > information> > > > > > it> > > > > > > > needs> > > > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > > > > > the matter.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > "If the Democrats truly do want to move forward> > and> > > > > find> > > > > > > > the right> > > > > > > > > > > > information, they ought to accept what I> > proposed,"> > > > > Bush> > > > > > > > said. "If> > > > > > > > > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then> > the> > > > > > rejection> > > > > > > > of this> > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for> > the> > > > > > > American> > > > > > > > > > people to> > > > > > > > > > > > see."> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court> > any> > > > > > attempt> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > subpoena> > > > > > > > > > > > White House aides.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > "If the staff of a president operated in> > constant> > > > > fear> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > being> > > > > > > > > > hauled> > > > > > > > > > > > before various committees to discuss internal> > > > > > > > deliberations, the> > > > > > > > > > > > president would not receive candid advice and> > the> > > > > > American> > > > > > > > people> > > > > > > > > > > > would be ill-served," he said. "I'm sorry the> > > > > situation> > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > > gotten to> > > > > > > > > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C.,> > for> > > > you.> > > > > > You> > > > > > > > know> > > > > > > > > > there's> > > > > > > > > > > > a lot of politics in this town."> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate> > probe> > > > > > into> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > firings,> > > > > > > > > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the> > White> > > > > > House:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > "It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk> > to> > > > > them,> > > > > > > > but not> > > > > > > > > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom> > of> > > > what> > > > > > > > really> > > > > > > > > > happened> > > > > > > > > > > > here."> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally> > > > > > required> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > tell the> > > > > > > > > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of> > their> > > > > > > > comments, "it> > > > > > > > > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they> > would> > > > be> > > > > > > under> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > kind> > > > > > > > > > > > of legal sanction," Schumer complained.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few> > hours> > > > > > after> > > > > > > > Bush> > > > > > > > > spoke> > > > > > > > > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call-> > their> > > > > first> > > > > > > > > > conversation> > > > > > > > > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes> > by his> > > > > > > > longtime> > > > > > > > > friend> > > > > > > > > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for> > > > Gonzales'> > > > > > > > ouster.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews> > with> > > > > Rove,> > > > > > > > Miers,> > > > > > > > > > deputy> > > > > > > > > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott> > > > > > Jennings,> > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > deputy to> > > > > > > > > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who> > > > works> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > Rove.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > "Such interviews would be private and conducted> > > > > without> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > need for> > > > > > > > > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or> > the> > > > > > > subsequent> > > > > > > > > issuance> > > > > > > > > > > > of subpoenas," Fielding said in a letter to the> > > > > Senate> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > House> > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking> > Republicans.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice> > > > > > Department "do> > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > reflect> > > > > > > > > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to> > interfere> > > > with> > > > > a> > > > > > > > pending or> > > > > > > > > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other> > > > > improper> > > > > > > > reason."> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ___> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven> > contributed> > > > to> > > > > > this> > > > > > > > repo> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer"> > > > > <cosmologer@>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another> > health> > > > > > > incident> > > > > > > > > today.> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because> > of> > > > the> > > > > > > scandal> > > > > > > > > > involving> > > > > > > > > > > > > his Attorney General's office.> > > > > > > > > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General> > this> > > > > > morning> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > confirm his> > > > > > > > > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for> > him to> > > > > > resign> > > > > > > > or be> > > > > > > > > > > removed.> > > > > > > > > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary> > Committee> > > > > has> > > > > > > > insisted> > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the> > President,> > > > > testify> > > > > > > > under> > > > > > > > > oath> > > > > > > > > > > > > before the committee about his role in the> > > > firings> > > > > of> > > > > > > > eight US> > > > > > > > > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to> > > > have> > > > > him> > > > > > > > > > interviewed but> > > > > > > > > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US> > > > Presidency> > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > consistent with> > > > > > > > > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2> > Sun> > > > > and> > > > > > > H2,> > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > well as> > > > > > > > > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2> > Sun> > > > and> > > > > > > > transit> > > > > > > > > > L10 Mars,> > > > > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in> > leg> > > > > with> > > > > > > clot> > > > > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007> > > > > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights> > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment> > after> > > > > > > > discomfort> > > > > > > > > > in leg> > > > > > > > > > > > > with blood clot> > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with> > clot> > > > > > > > discovered in> > > > > > > > > > > February> > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after> > treatment> > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related> > problems> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney> > > > went> > > > > to> > > > > > > > George> > > > > > > > > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday> > morning> > > > after> > > > > > > > > experiencing> > > > > > > > > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a> > blood> > > > > clot> > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > discovered a> > > > > > > > > > > > > few weeks ago.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was> > > > asked> > > > > to> > > > > > > > return> > > > > > > > > > to the> > > > > > > > > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the> > > > deep> > > > > > > venous> > > > > > > > > > thrombosis,> > > > > > > > > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan> > > > McGinn> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > "The ultrasound revealed no extension or> > > > > complication> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > clot,"> > > > > > > > > > > > > she said. "His blood thinning medication was> > > > found> > > > > to> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > therapeutic.> > > > > > > > > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring,> > and> > > > the> > > > > > > current> > > > > > > > > > course of> > > > > > > > > > > > > treatment will continue."> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume> > his> > > > > > normal> > > > > > > > > > schedule, she> > > > > > > > > > > > > said.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a> > > > blood> > > > > > clot> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > the vice> > > > > > > > > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that> > he> > > > > likely> > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > have to be> > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for> > > > several> > > > > > > months.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time> > > > that> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > 66-year-old had> > > > > > > > > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after> > > > > feeling> > > > > > > minor> > > > > > > > > > discomfort> > > > > > > > > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood> > clot -> > > > -> > > > > > > > called a> > > > > > > > > deep> > > > > > > > > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can> > become> > > > > > > killers> > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > they> > > > > > > > > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is> > > > called a> > > > > > > > pulmonary> > > > > > > > > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an> > > > estimated> > > > > 2> > > > > > > > million> > > > > > > > > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after> > spending> > > > long> > > > > > > > periods> > > > > > > > > > without> > > > > > > > > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul> > airline> > > > > > flights.> > > > > > > > > > Cheney had> > > > > > > > > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a> > nine-> > > > day,> > > > > > > > > > round-the-world> > > > > > > > > > > > trip.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related> > > > problems> > > > > > over> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > years.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in> > 2005> > > > to> > > > > > > repair> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > kind of> > > > > > > > > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery> > > > that> > > > > can> > > > > > > > burst> > > > > > > > > > if left> > > > > > > > > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks,> > > > quadruple> > > > > > > bypass> > > > > > > > > > surgery,> > > > > > > > > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an> > > > operation> > > > > to> > > > > > > > implant a> > > > > > > > > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest.> > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer"> > > > > > <cosmologer@>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the> > Vice> > > > > > > > President, the> > > > > > > > > > > perjury> > > > > > > > > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the> > resignation> > > > > of> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > Secretary of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems> > > > > facing> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > US> > > > > > > > > > > Presidency> > > > > > > > > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated> > > > > > > > congressional> > > > > > > > > > > hearings on> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim> > > > they> > > > > > were> > > > > > > > > fired for> > > > > > > > > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat> > by> > > > > > several> > > > > > > > US> > > > > > > > > > military> > > > > > > > > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As> > that> > > > > > were> > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > enough, in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the background to these more recent> > > > developments> > > > > is> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > ongoing> > > > > > > > > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and> > civilian> > > > > > > > > casulaties. The> > > > > > > > > > > fact> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US> > > > > > Presidency> > > > > > > > all at> > > > > > > > > > > once are> > > > > > > > > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions> > > > > > involving> > > > > > > > both the> > > > > > > > > > > natal> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer"> > > > > > > <cosmologer@>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice> > > > President> > > > > > Dick> > > > > > > > Cheney> > > > > > > > > > > had been> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg,> > after> > > > > > > returning> > > > > > > > > from a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > grueling> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health> > setback> > > > > raises> > > > > > > > > > questions about> > > > > > > > > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job> > but> > > > > > also> > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > > fitness to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President> > Bush> > > > > for> > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > reason is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to> > Vice> > > > > > > President> > > > > > > > Dick> > > > > > > > > > Cheney> > > > > > > > > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political> > > > scandal.> > > > > > Many> > > > > > > > see the> > > > > > > > > > > aide as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having become a "fall guy" to protect the> > Vice> > > > > > > > President.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent> > with> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > transit and> > > > > > > > > > > natal> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA> > USA> > > > > > chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood> > > > clot> > > > > in> > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > leg> > > > > > > > > > and is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > being> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication,> > his> > > > > office> > > > > > > > has said.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower> > left> > > > leg> > > > > on> > > > > > > > Monday> > > > > > > > > > morning> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work> > after> > > > the> > > > > > > > > examination.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning> > > > > > medication> > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > several> > > > > > > > > > > > > > months.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac> > > > > problems.> > > > > > He> > > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > > suffered> > > > > > > > > > > > > > four> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate> > heartbeat in> > > > > 2001> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis> > (DVT) -> > > > > are> > > > > > > > often> > > > > > > > > > associated> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the> > > > > reduced> > > > > > air> > > > > > > > > > pressure and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of> > > > > inactivity> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > dehydration> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots> > themselves> > > > are> > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > life-threatening> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become> > wedged in> > > > > the> > > > > > > > lungs or> > > > > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be> > fatal.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA> > leak> > > > case> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis "Scooter"> > Libby,> > > > a> > > > > > > > former top> > > > > > > > > > aide to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted> > on> > > > > > Tuesday> > > > > > > > of four> > > > > > > > > > > counts> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury> > during> > > > an> > > > > > > > > investigation> > > > > > > > > > > tied> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys> > promptly> > > > > > said> > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > > seek a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > new> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of> > lying to> > > > > the> > > > > > > FBI> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > the probe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a> > CIA> > > > > > analyst> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > 2003. He> > > > > > > > > > > > > > faces> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense> > > > > attorney> > > > > > > > Theodore> > > > > > > > > > Wells> > > > > > > > > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would> > > > > appeal> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > conviction.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 My dear David, Thank you very much for the kind words! Indeed, the initial reading of the potential of this chart, the subesequent predictions on the basis of it and now the monitoring of the outcomes, leading to the favourable assessment of , is a veritable milestone for this chart. Best wishes, ThorDavid Hawthorne <david wrote: CONGRATULATIONS, DEAR THOR, JOHN, ET AL... GREAT WORK! DAVID HAWTHORNE - siha SAMVA Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:40 AM Re: Re: Problems for the US Presidency Hello my dear Thor,The events in the last one and a half month show without any doubt that SAMVA US chart with Cancer ascendant responds best of all charts proposed.Best wishes.- "cosmologer" <cosmologer<SAMVA >Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:24 PM Re: Problems for the US PresidencyDear friends,The problems for the close associates of President Bush continue. PaulWolfowitz, President of the World Bank, is also taking his lumps thesedays for acts considered improper. Wolfowitz is considered one of thearchitechts of the War in Iraq. Gonzales at the Justice Departmentseems to have weathered the storm.The aspects with regard to the obstacles faced by the President areabout to reach their peak. However, the aspect of Jupiter to Saturn isyet to become exact. The nodes, which are now again moving, are alsoabout to become exactly conjunct the MEP of the chart. We have abouttwo more weeks of difficult transits to witness. So, a lot could stillhappen.As an aside, the problem with the US Congress being obstructionistconcerning foreign policy initiatives of a sitting President isapparently nothing new. This is emerging from a reading of the book by Niall Ferguson, Colossus. This feature of American political life isconsistent with L8 Saturn aspecting L2 Sun in the SAMVA USA chart.Best wishes,ThorAgency investigating Rove's political operationPOSTED: 9:51 p.m. EDT, April 24, 2007Story Highlights. Federal agency investigating Karl Rove and other White House officials. Presentations made by White House aides might have violated Hatch Act. Hatch Act protects federal employees from political coercion. Agency also investigating GOP e-mail accounts, attorney firings>From Ed Henry, CNN Washington BureauWASHINGTON (CNN) -- A small federal agency responsible forsafeguarding federal employees from political coercion has launched anextensive investigation into the activities of the White House'spolitical operation and its architect, Karl Rove. The U.S. Office ofSpecial Counsel is looking into whether Rove -- President Bush'slongtime trusted political strategist -- or other White House aidesviolated federal law by making political presentations to governmentemployees in the run-up to last year's midterm elections. "We will doa thorough job. We will not leave any stone unturned," said ScottBloch, a Kansas lawyer appointed by Bush to head the agency in 2003."We will be fair, we will be impartial, and we will be thorough."Bloch confirmed that Rove will be a focus of his investigation. "Mr.Rove is a respected individual in the White House, and we plan to doour job with professionalism," he said.SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer wrote:>> Bush Won't Accept Iraq War Timetable> Apr 24 12:29 PM US/Eastern> By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer>> WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush, standing firmly against a timetable> for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq, said Tuesday that he will veto> the latest war spending bill taking shape in Congress. "I'm> disappointed that the Democratic leadership has chosen this course,"> Bush said. "They chose to make a political statement," he said.> "That's their right but it is wrong for our troops and it's wrong for> our country. To accept the bill proposed by the Democratic leadership> would be to accept a policy that directly contradicts the judgment of> our military commanders.">> House and Senate Democratic appropriators agreed Monday on a $124> billion bill that would fund the Iraq war but order troops to begin> leaving by Oct. 1 with the goal of completing the pullout six months> later. Democrats would need a two-thirds majority to override a> presidential veto. Democrats said they won't back down and pointed to> past remarks by Gen. David Petraeus, the new Iraq commander, that> security in Iraq requires a political solution. Senate Majority Leader> Harry Reid, D-Nev., who says the war in Iraq is "lost," likened Bush> to President Lyndon Johnson, saying Johnson ordered troop escalations> in Vietnam in an attempt "to save his political legacy" only to watch> U.S. casualties climb steadily.>> Bush said U.S. troops should not be caught in the middle of a showdown> between the White House and Congress. "Yesterday, Democratic leaders> announced that they planned to send me a bill that will fund our> troops only if we agree to handcuff our generals, add billions of> dollars of unrelated spending and begin to pull out of Iraq by an> arbitrary date," Bush said on the South Lawn. He said the bill would> mandate the withdrawal of U.S. troops beginning as early as July 1 and> no later than Oct. 1, despite the fact that Petraeus has not yet> received all the reinforcements he has said he needs in the latest> military buildup to help secure Baghdad and the troubled Anbar Province.>> Democrats have argued that the election that left Democrats in control> of Congress was a referendum for a change of strategy in Iraq. Bush> used the same election results to argue his point.>> "The American people did not vote for failure," he said. "That is> precisely what the Democratic leadership's bill would guarantee. "It's> not too late for Congress to do the right thing.">> [snip]>> Under the nonbinding timeline, all combat troops would be withdrawn by> April 1, 2008.>> [snip]>> SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> wrote:> >> > Dear friends,> >> > More problems for the President this week.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Thor> >> > Congress set to defy Bush on Iraq war> > Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:08pm ET> > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A fight between the U.S. Congress and> > President George W. Bush over the Iraq war is set to come to a head> > this week when Democrats are expected to send him $100 billion to pay> > for continuing combat while setting timetables for withdrawing troops.> > Bush has promised to veto any bill setting dates for removing U.S.> > combat soldiers from the Iraq war, now in its fifth year.But when a> > Democratic-controlled panel of Senate and House of Representatives> > members meets on Monday to iron out differences between their> > respective bills, the product is expected to contain 2008 withdrawal> > dates.> >> >> >> > SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear list members,> > >> > > A relentless barrage of problems continues to land in the lap of> > > President Bush.> > >> > > 1. A top ranking Democrat has publically announced that he directly> > > told President Bush that the war in Iraq is lost "politically,> > > militarily and economically".> > >> > > 2. A senator has also demanded that the head of the Justice> > > Department, Gonzales, resign. Earlier Gonzales personally apologised> > > for the firings of the 8 US justices, thereby assuming> > responsibility> > > for the fiasco.> > >> > > The problems should be even greater next week in light of the> > transits> > > impacting the strength of transit and natal Sun in the SAMVA USA> > > chart. We will soon see.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > Thor> > >> > >> > > 1.> > > Iraq war is 'lost': US Democrat leader> > > Apr 19 02:45 PM US/Eastern> > >> > > The war in Iraq "is lost" and a US troop surge is failing to bring> > > peace to the country, the leader of the Democratic majority in the> > US> > > Congress, Harry Reid, said Thursday. "I believe ... that this war is> > > lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by> > the> > > extreme violence in Iraq this week," Reid told journalists. Reid> > said> > > he had delivered the same message to US President George W. Bush on> > > Wednesday, when the US president met with senior lawmakers to> > discuss> > > how to end a standoff over an emergency war funding bill. "I know I> > > was the odd guy out at the White House, but I told him at least what> > > he needed to hear ... I believe the war at this stage can only be> > won> > > diplomatically, politically and economically." Congress is seeking> > to> > > tie funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to a timetable to> > > withdraw US troops from Iraq next year, but Bush has vowed to veto> > any> > > such bill and no breakthrough was reported from the White House> > talks.> > > Bush on Thursday was addressing an Ohio town hall meeting and> > > defending the war on terror launched in the wake of the September> > 11,> > > 2001 attacks. "It is the most solemn duty of our country, is to> > > protect our country from harm," Bush told the invited audience in> > > Tipp, Ohio.> > >> > > "A lesson learned was that -- at least in my opinion -- that in> > order> > > to protect us, we must aggressively pursue the enemy and defeat them> > > elsewhere so that we do not have to face them here."> > >> > > 2.> > > Republican senator calls for Gonzales to quit> > > POSTED: 4:14 p.m. EDT, April 19, 2007> > > Story Highlights> > > . NEW: Republican Sen. Coburn urges Gonzales to resign> > > . Gonzales: Alleging partisanship is an attack on career Justice> > Dept.> > > employees> > > . Gonzales says he'll resign if he can no longer be an effective> > leader> > > . Sen. Arlen Specter questions attorney general on extent of> > involvement> > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales confronted a> > > fresh call for his resignation from a fellow Republican Thursday as> > he> > > struggled to survive a bipartisan Senate challenge to his> > credibility> > > in the case of eight fired prosecutors. Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom> > > Coburn told Gonzales that the situation was handled incompetently> > and> > > said there should be consequences. "The communication was atrocious.> > > It was inconsistent -- it's generous to say that there was> > > misstatements; it's a generous statement. And I believe you ought to> > > suffer the consequences that these others have suffered," Coburn> > said.> > > "And I believe the best way to put this behind us is your> > > resignation." Coburn is the first Republican on the Senate Judiciary> > > Committee to call for Gonzales' resignation.> > >> > > SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear list members,> > > >> > > > The problems facing the US Presidency are still numerous, and> > don´t> > > > seem to be fading away:> > > >> > > > - The death toll of US troops in Iraq keeps on mounting.> > > > - The head of the Justice Department, Gonzales, who has been> > strongly> > > > backed by President Bush, in his recent problems over the firings> > of> > > > justices, is again in hot water. Emails now show that he> > suggested> > > > replacing the justices one year before they were let go. This> > brings> > > > the matter right to his doorstep. If he is forced to step down> > that> > > > would be a setback for the President.> > > > - Another close associate of President Bush, Wolfowitz, head of> > the> > > > World Bank, is now in hot water over the pay raise he arranged> > for> > > > his girlfriend. While the scandal is not as big as some others it> > is> > > > being seized upon to try to get rid of this appointy of President> > > > Bush. Many countries were upset when a symbol of US arrogance and> > > > unilateral actions of the US in the world was appointed to this> > body> > > > and would like to get rid of him. If they succeed it would be a> > > > setback for President Bush.> > > > - a story is now in the news that 5 million emails in the White> > House> > > > are missing. The loss of emails came to light when an inquiry was> > > > launched into allegations that Karl Rove, the chief political> > advisor> > > > to the President, had used offical email for political purposes,> > > > which is banned by law. If the allegations are proven, it would> > be> > > > another setback for the President.> > > >> > > > In other words, there are continuing problems for President Bush,> > > > which is not surprising in view of the transits in the SAMVA USA> > > > chart, notably the aspect of transit L8 Saturn to natal L2 Sun.> > The> > > > afflictions involving transit L6 Jupiter and L8 Saturn are making> > > > this aspect more difficult. In general, the difficult aspects> > will> > > > only become more difficult in the coming four weeks or so. One> > > > helpful transit is that L2 Sun has now entered the sign Aries> > (and> > > > H10) where it is exalted. While that would ordinarily be likely> > to> > > > help the US President, L10 Mars is now in H8 and about to become> > > > conjunct transit Rahu. This would undermine the strength of the> > Sun> > > > in H10. Hence, the transit of the Sun may actually only add to> > the> > > > difficulty of problems facing President Bush in the coming week> > or> > > > two. We will see how things turn out.> > > >> > > > Best wishes,> > > >> > > > Thor> > > >> > > > White House: Millions of e-mails may be missing> > > > POSTED: 7:07 p.m. EDT, April 13, 2007> > > > Story Highlights. NEW: White House spokeswoman says 5 million> > > > official e-mails may be missing> > > > . White House admits it should have kept e-mails on private GOP> > system> > > > . Chairman of Senate Judiciary Committee doubts e-mails are> > deleted> > > > . Committee investigating whether U.S. attorneys' firings were> > > > politically motivated> > > >> > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Millions of White House e-mails may be> > missing,> > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino acknowledged Friday.> > > >> > > > "I wouldn't rule out that there were a potential 5 million e-> > mails> > > > lost," Perino told reporters.> > > >> > > > The administration was already facing sharp questions about> > whether> > > > top presidential advisers including Karl Rove improperly used> > > > Republican National Committee e-mail that the White House said> > later> > > > disappeared.> > > >> > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear list members,> > > > >> > > > > The following six news headlines on DrudgeReport.com today> > about> > > > the> > > > > policy debate in the USA over the war in Iraq give a> > fascinating> > > > > overview of the current political situation.> > > > >> > > > > Democrats Escalate Iraq War Debate...> > > > > Reid May Move to Cut Funds...> > > > > CHENEY: MILITARY ANSWERS TO ONE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF...> > > > > House Republicans Have Votes To Sustain Veto...> > > > > Hillary Challenges Veto Threat...> > > > > Bush Rips Dems Over War Funding...> > > > >> > > > > These news headlines show clearly what an epic power struggle> > has> > > > > developed between the Democratically controlled Congress> > > > (Legislative> > > > > branch of government) and the Republican controlled White House> > > > > (Executive branch of government). The problems for President> > Bush> > > > are> > > > > indeed significant at this time.> > > > >> > > > > These problems are clearly reflected in the SAMVA USA chart,> > with> > > > > transit L8 Saturn having reached 24° 24' Cancer H1 in> > opposition to> > > > > natal L2 Sun at 23° 45' Capricorn. Saturn will become> > stationary> > > > at> > > > > 24° 11' Cancer in the third week of April, In terms of this> > aspect,> > > > > the greatest strain for the indications of the Sun should be> > felt.> > > > >> > > > > As mentioned in other posts there are numerous other aspects to> > > > > consider, not least the stationary nodes impact on the house> > MEPs> > > > and> > > > > natal L4 Venus in H6 and the impact of transit L6 Jupiter in H5> > on> > > > > transit L8 Saturn in H1.> > > > >> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Thor> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear friends,> > > > > >> > > > > > Two news items have appeared this weekend signalling> > difficulty> > > > for> > > > > > President Bush, also related to 4th house matters. One has to> > do> > > > > with> > > > > > emission of greenhouse gasses. The other story has to do with> > > > > > regulations concerning logging in wildlife areas. Bush had> > > > proposed> > > > > > more freedom, but the judge insisted that environmental> > > > > > considerations be brought into the picture, reversing the> > > > > regulation.> > > > > > Such stories show the impact of the present transits in the> > SAMVA> > > > > USA> > > > > > chart with regard to L2 Sun and L4 Venus.> > > > > >> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > >> > > > > > Thor> > > > > >> > > > > > Split court rules against Bush on greenhouse gases> > > > > > POSTED: 10:50 a.m. EDT, April 2, 2007> > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ordered the federal> > > > government> > > > > > on Monday to take a fresh look at regulating carbon dioxide> > > > > emissions> > > > > > from cars, a rebuke to Bush administration policy on global> > > > warming.> > > > > >> > > > > > In a 5-4 decision, the court said the Clean Air Act gives the> > > > > > Environmental Protection Agency the authority to regulate the> > > > > > emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from> > cars.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/02/scotus.greenhousegas.ap/index.html> > > > > >> > > > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@>> > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear ,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thank you for the additional clarification.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Indeed, there is an unusual amount of adverse transit> > impacts> > > > > > active> > > > > > > at present in the SAMVA USA chart.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by> > you> > > > and> > > > > > > take part in> > > > > > > > making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting> > > > > situations> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at> > the> > > > > > highest> > > > > > > level in> > > > > > > > US. I was partially looking into the aspect of conflicts.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Best wishes.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > "cosmologer" <cosmologer@>> > > > > > > > <SAMVA >> > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM> > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear ,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional insights.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit> > > > nodes> > > > > on> > > > > > H2> > > > > > > > MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in> > turn> > > > its> > > > > > > > affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to> > explain> > > > these> > > > > > > > events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on> > > > natal> > > > > L2> > > > > > > > Sun?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8> > Saturn> > > > on> > > > > > > > natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the> > > > indications> > > > > of> > > > > > > > the Sun?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts> > and> > > > the> > > > > > > > close> > > > > > > > > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu> > axis> > > > > are> > > > > > > > showing the> > > > > > > > > impact of current affliction in the chart in a> > pronounced> > > > > > manner.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Best wishes.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > "cosmologer" <cosmologer@>> > > > > > > > > <SAMVA >> > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM> > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear friends,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The> > > > Democratically> > > > > > > > > controlled Congress since last November has begun to> > show> > > > its> > > > > > > teeth> > > > > > > > > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the> > > > > > President,> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has> > been> > > > > > passed> > > > > > > > > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from> > > > Iraq.> > > > > > > > > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared> > the> > > > US> > > > > > > should> > > > > > > > > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President> > now> > > > has> > > > > > only> > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in> > both> > > > > > > chambers> > > > > > > > > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a> > > > > development> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even> > > > > further,> > > > > > > > > adding to the problems.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and> > period> > > > > > > > dynmamics> > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn> > in> > > > H1> > > > > > now> > > > > > > > > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart> > Saturn> > > > > rules> > > > > > > > > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader> > of> > > > the> > > > > > > > > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such> > affliction.> > > > > > > > Moreover,> > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of> > the 'executive'> > > > > and> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up> > in> > > > > this> > > > > > > > > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In> > coming> > > > > > days> > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the> > > > conditions.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This and other political developments show clearly that> > the> > > > > > > > prediction> > > > > > > > > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the> > > > Spring> > > > > > > > months> > > > > > > > > is being realised. The chart also suggests the> > intensity of> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate> > in> > > > the> > > > > > > second> > > > > > > > > half of May.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote> > > > > > > > > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007> > > > > > > > > Story Highlights> > > > > > > > > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto> > > > > > > > > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from> > funding> > > > bill> > > > > > > > > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes> > failure> > > > > in> > > > > > > Iraq> > > > > > > > > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan,> > sets> > > > > > March> > > > > > > > 2008> > > > > > > > > deadline> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the> > Democratic-> > > > led> > > > > > > > Senate> > > > > > > > > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for> > U.S.> > > > > > > > withdrawal> > > > > > > > > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill,> > Tuesday.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds> > > > majority> > > > > > > needed> > > > > > > > > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a> > sign> > > > of> > > > > > > growing> > > > > > > > > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "This is a strong message which amplifies the action of> > the> > > > > > House> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American> > > > people,"> > > > > > said> > > > > > > > Sen.> > > > > > > > > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. "It's a message that must be> > > > > heeded> > > > > > by> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > president and by the government of Iraq."> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin> > > > > withdrawing> > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next> > > > March.> > > > > A> > > > > > > > > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on> > training> > > > > > Iraqi> > > > > > > > > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky,> > said> > > > that> > > > > > > > > effectively sets a "surrender date" in the war.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo> > to> > > > our> > > > > > > enemies> > > > > > > > > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the> > day we> > > > > > > leave,"> > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > said. "It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we> > > > plan> > > > > to> > > > > > > walk> > > > > > > > > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we> > > > leave> > > > > > > > behind."> > > > > > > > > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70> > billion> > > > > > already> > > > > > > > > approved for this year and would drive the price tag> > for the> > > > > > > > > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark.> > The> > > > > > Pentagon> > > > > > > > > says it would have to start diverting funds from other> > > > > programs> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives> > with> > > > an> > > > > > > August> > > > > > > > > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any> > > > bill> > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he> > considers> > > > > > > > extraneous> > > > > > > > > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure> > > > > > > as "political> > > > > > > > > theater."> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that> > threat> > > > > > > Tuesday.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in> > the> > > > > > field,> > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > bill would require their withdrawal," she said. "This> > and> > > > > other> > > > > > > > > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at> > > > grave> > > > > > > risk,> > > > > > > > > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's> > > > plans> > > > > to> > > > > > > > > develop the Iraqi economy." (Watch the top U.S.> > commander> > > > > > outline> > > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > concerns Video)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority> > fell> > > > > short> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal.> > > > > > Republicans> > > > > > > had> > > > > > > > > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous> > statements> > > > of> > > > > > > > > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would> > not> > > > > use> > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this> > case> > > > > > because> > > > > > > > > "it's important to get the money to the troops."> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call> > for a> > > > > > > pullout> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > a step toward bringing "the worst foreign policy> > mistake of> > > > > our> > > > > > > > time"> > > > > > > > > to an end.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it> > is> > > > > their> > > > > > > > > country. It is their war. It is their future," he said.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White> > House> > > > > > > hustling> > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a> > > > > possible> > > > > > > tie.> > > > > > > > > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid> > > > acknowledged, "We> > > > > > don't> > > > > > > > > know how it's going to turn out."> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and> > Gordon> > > > > > Smith> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP-> > backed> > > > > > > amendment.> > > > > > > > > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "The American people are demanding that we develop a> > > > > bipartisan> > > > > > > > > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit> > strategy> > > > from> > > > > > > Iraq,"> > > > > > > > > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential> > > > candidate. "If> > > > > we> > > > > > > > fail> > > > > > > > > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy,> > > > > America> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will> > have> > > > > > > difficulty> > > > > > > > > recovering from in the years ahead."> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined> > Connecticut> > > > > > > independent> > > > > > > > > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership.> > And> > > > > > Virginia> > > > > > > > > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan> > to> > > > > send> > > > > > > > 30,000> > > > > > > > > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on> > > > > Tuesday's> > > > > > > vote,> > > > > > > > > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound "the> > bugle> > > > of> > > > > > > > retreat."> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in> > Iraq> > > > > that> > > > > > > > > coalition forces have begun to take the first step> > > > > backwards,"> > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services> > > > > > > > Committee. "We> > > > > > > > > cannot take that step -- not at this time."> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer"> > <cosmologer@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear David and list members,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the> > US> > > > > > > Presidency> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > clearly above normal levels these days.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for> > the> > > > > > > > military. It> > > > > > > > > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is> > opposite> > > > > > transit> > > > > > > > L8> > > > > > > > > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine> > officers,> > > > > > including> > > > > > > > up to> > > > > > > > > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in> > the> > > > > > aftermath> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman,> > AP> > > > > reports> > > > > > > > citing> > > > > > > > > > senior defense officials.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , "David Hawthorne"> > <david@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > dear thor...> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -----------------------> > ----> > > > --> > > > > --> > > > > > --> > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > ------------> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary> > J.> > > > > > Steven> > > > > > > > Griles> > > > > > > > > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a> > > > Senate> > > > > > > > > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest-> > ranking> > > > Bush> > > > > > > > > > administration official convicted in the Jack> > Abramoff> > > > > > > corruption> > > > > > > > > scandal.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior> > Department> > > > > > admitted> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his> > > > > > relationship> > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought> > Griles'> > > > > > > > > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's> > Indian> > > > > > tribal> > > > > > > > > clients.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for> > testifying> > > > > > > falsely> > > > > > > > > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on> > November 2,> > > > > > 2005,> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's> > > > investigators> > > > > on> > > > > > > > October> > > > > > > > > > 20, 2005.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > "I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the> > > > > > > > responsibility for> > > > > > > > > > my conduct and the consequences it may have," Griles> > said> > > > > in a> > > > > > > > > > statement. "When a Senate committee asks questions,> > they> > > > > must> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place> > to> > > > > > decide> > > > > > > > > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal.> > I> > > > > > > apologize> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff."> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > cosmologer> > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM> > > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US> > Presidency> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal> > Sun> > > > in> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > SAMVA USA> > > > > > > > > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of> > obstacles> > > > > > being> > > > > > > > > thrown in> > > > > > > > > > > the way of President Bush.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com:> > > > > > > > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to> > require> > > > > > > > President> > > > > > > > > Bush> > > > > > > > > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall> > 2008,> > > > > > despite> > > > > > > > a White> > > > > > > > > > > House veto threat.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq> > > > > > > > > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern> > > > > > > > > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY> > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press Writer> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted> > > > Friday> > > > > to> > > > > > > > order> > > > > > > > > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from> > Iraq> > > > > next> > > > > > > > year, a> > > > > > > > > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers> > struggle> > > > and> > > > > > > > Congress'> > > > > > > > > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's> > policy.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers> > voted> > > > 218-> > > > > > 212,> > > > > > > > mostly> > > > > > > > > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill> > requiring> > > > > that> > > > > > > > combat> > > > > > > > > > > operations cease before September 2008, or> > earlier if> > > > > the> > > > > > > > Iraqi> > > > > > > > > > > government does not meet certain requirements.> > > > > Democrats> > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > it was> > > > > > > > > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep> > last> > > > > > > > November,> > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > gave them control of Congress.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > "The American people have lost faith in the> > > > president's> > > > > > > > conduct of> > > > > > > > > > > this war," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-> > > > > Calif. "The> > > > > > > > American> > > > > > > > > > > people see the reality of the war, the president> > does> > > > > > not."> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer"> > > > <cosmologer@>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings> > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern> > > > > > > > > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush> > warned> > > > > > > Democrats> > > > > > > > > > Tuesday to> > > > > > > > > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify> > about the> > > > > > > > firings of> > > > > > > > > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not> > under> > > > oath> > > > > or> > > > > > > > risk a> > > > > > > > > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not> > > > back> > > > > > down.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift> > and> > > > > firm:> > > > > > > They> > > > > > > > > > said they> > > > > > > > > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as> > > > > Wednesday> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > White> > > > > > > > > > > > House aides.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > "Testimony should be on the record and under> > oath.> > > > > > That's> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > formula> > > > > > > > > > > > for true accountability," said Patrick Leahy,> > > > > chairman> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > Senate> > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary Committee.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the> > White> > > > > House,> > > > > > > > said,> > > > > > > > > > "We will> > > > > > > > > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition> > > > aimed> > > > > at> > > > > > > > honorable> > > > > > > > > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a> > reasonable> > > > way> > > > > to> > > > > > > > avoid an> > > > > > > > > > > > impasse."> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him> > and> > > > it> > > > > is> > > > > > > > > natural to> > > > > > > > > > > > consider replacing them. "There is no> > indication> > > > that> > > > > > > > anybody did> > > > > > > > > > > > anything improper," the president said.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general,> > Alberto> > > > > > > Gonzales,> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > boost> > > > > > > > > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day> > with> > > > a> > > > > > > public> > > > > > > > > > statement> > > > > > > > > > > > repeating it. "He's got support with me," Bush> > said.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales> > of> > > > his> > > > > > > > authority to> > > > > > > > > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate> > > > > > confirmation.> > > > > > > > > Democrats> > > > > > > > > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House> > > > purged> > > > > > > eight> > > > > > > > > federal> > > > > > > > > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading> > political> > > > > > > corruption> > > > > > > > > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot> > Act> > > > gave> > > > > > > > > Gonzales the> > > > > > > > > > > > new authority.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential> > hopefuls> > > > > > Hillary> > > > > > > > Rodham> > > > > > > > > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John> > Edwards,> > > > > have> > > > > > > > > called for> > > > > > > > > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a> > handful> > > > of> > > > > > > > Republican> > > > > > > > > > > > lawmakers.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > "What happened in this case sends a signal> > really> > > > > > through> > > > > > > > > > intimidation> > > > > > > > > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,'"> > said> > > > > Sen.> > > > > > > > Sheldon> > > > > > > > > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who> > > > spent> > > > > > much> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > Monday> > > > > > > > > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released> > by> > > > the> > > > > > > > Justice> > > > > > > > > > > Department.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred> > Fielding,> > > > told> > > > > > > > lawmakers> > > > > > > > > > they> > > > > > > > > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl> > Rove,> > > > > former> > > > > > > > White> > > > > > > > > House> > > > > > > > > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but> > only> > > > on> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > president's> > > > > > > > > > > > terms: in private, "without the need for an> > oath"> > > > and> > > > > > > > without a> > > > > > > > > > > > transcript.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually> > > > > unprecedented> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the> > > > > information> > > > > > it> > > > > > > > needs> > > > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > > > > > the matter.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > "If the Democrats truly do want to move forward> > and> > > > > find> > > > > > > > the right> > > > > > > > > > > > information, they ought to accept what I> > proposed,"> > > > > Bush> > > > > > > > said. "If> > > > > > > > > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then> > the> > > > > > rejection> > > > > > > > of this> > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for> > the> > > > > > > American> > > > > > > > > > people to> > > > > > > > > > > > see."> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court> > any> > > > > > attempt> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > subpoena> > > > > > > > > > > > White House aides.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > "If the staff of a president operated in> > constant> > > > > fear> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > being> > > > > > > > > > hauled> > > > > > > > > > > > before various committees to discuss internal> > > > > > > > deliberations, the> > > > > > > > > > > > president would not receive candid advice and> > the> > > > > > American> > > > > > > > people> > > > > > > > > > > > would be ill-served," he said. "I'm sorry the> > > > > situation> > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > > gotten to> > > > > > > > > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C.,> > for> > > > you.> > > > > > You> > > > > > > > know> > > > > > > > > > there's> > > > > > > > > > > > a lot of politics in this town."> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate> > probe> > > > > > into> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > firings,> > > > > > > > > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the> > White> > > > > > House:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > "It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk> > to> > > > > them,> > > > > > > > but not> > > > > > > > > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom> > of> > > > what> > > > > > > > really> > > > > > > > > > happened> > > > > > > > > > > > here."> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally> > > > > > required> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > tell the> > > > > > > > > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of> > their> > > > > > > > comments, "it> > > > > > > > > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they> > would> > > > be> > > > > > > under> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > kind> > > > > > > > > > > > of legal sanction," Schumer complained.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few> > hours> > > > > > after> > > > > > > > Bush> > > > > > > > > spoke> > > > > > > > > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call-> > their> > > > > first> > > > > > > > > > conversation> > > > > > > > > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes> > by his> > > > > > > > longtime> > > > > > > > > friend> > > > > > > > > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for> > > > Gonzales'> > > > > > > > ouster.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews> > with> > > > > Rove,> > > > > > > > Miers,> > > > > > > > > > deputy> > > > > > > > > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott> > > > > > Jennings,> > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > deputy to> > > > > > > > > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who> > > > works> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > Rove.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > "Such interviews would be private and conducted> > > > > without> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > need for> > > > > > > > > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or> > the> > > > > > > subsequent> > > > > > > > > issuance> > > > > > > > > > > > of subpoenas," Fielding said in a letter to the> > > > > Senate> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > House> > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking> > Republicans.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice> > > > > > Department "do> > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > reflect> > > > > > > > > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to> > interfere> > > > with> > > > > a> > > > > > > > pending or> > > > > > > > > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other> > > > > improper> > > > > > > > reason."> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ___> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven> > contributed> > > > to> > > > > > this> > > > > > > > repo> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer"> > > > > <cosmologer@>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another> > health> > > > > > > incident> > > > > > > > > today.> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because> > of> > > > the> > > > > > > scandal> > > > > > > > > > involving> > > > > > > > > > > > > his Attorney General's office.> > > > > > > > > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General> > this> > > > > > morning> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > confirm his> > > > > > > > > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for> > him to> > > > > > resign> > > > > > > > or be> > > > > > > > > > > removed.> > > > > > > > > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary> > Committee> > > > > has> > > > > > > > insisted> > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the> > President,> > > > > testify> > > > > > > > under> > > > > > > > > oath> > > > > > > > > > > > > before the committee about his role in the> > > > firings> > > > > of> > > > > > > > eight US> > > > > > > > > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to> > > > have> > > > > him> > > > > > > > > > interviewed but> > > > > > > > > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US> > > > Presidency> > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > consistent with> > > > > > > > > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2> > Sun> > > > > and> > > > > > > H2,> > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > well as> > > > > > > > > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2> > Sun> > > > and> > > > > > > > transit> > > > > > > > > > L10 Mars,> > > > > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in> > leg> > > > > with> > > > > > > clot> > > > > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007> > > > > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights> > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment> > after> > > > > > > > discomfort> > > > > > > > > > in leg> > > > > > > > > > > > > with blood clot> > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with> > clot> > > > > > > > discovered in> > > > > > > > > > > February> > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after> > treatment> > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related> > problems> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney> > > > went> > > > > to> > > > > > > > George> > > > > > > > > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday> > morning> > > > after> > > > > > > > > experiencing> > > > > > > > > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a> > blood> > > > > clot> > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > discovered a> > > > > > > > > > > > > few weeks ago.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was> > > > asked> > > > > to> > > > > > > > return> > > > > > > > > > to the> > > > > > > > > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the> > > > deep> > > > > > > venous> > > > > > > > > > thrombosis,> > > > > > > > > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan> > > > McGinn> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > "The ultrasound revealed no extension or> > > > > complication> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > clot,"> > > > > > > > > > > > > she said. "His blood thinning medication was> > > > found> > > > > to> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > therapeutic.> > > > > > > > > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring,> > and> > > > the> > > > > > > current> > > > > > > > > > course of> > > > > > > > > > > > > treatment will continue."> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume> > his> > > > > > normal> > > > > > > > > > schedule, she> > > > > > > > > > > > > said.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a> > > > blood> > > > > > clot> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > the vice> > > > > > > > > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that> > he> > > > > likely> > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > have to be> > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for> > > > several> > > > > > > months.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time> > > > that> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > 66-year-old had> > > > > > > > > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after> > > > > feeling> > > > > > > minor> > > > > > > > > > discomfort> > > > > > > > > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood> > clot -> > > > -> > > > > > > > called a> > > > > > > > > deep> > > > > > > > > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can> > become> > > > > > > killers> > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > they> > > > > > > > > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is> > > > called a> > > > > > > > pulmonary> > > > > > > > > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an> > > > estimated> > > > > 2> > > > > > > > million> > > > > > > > > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after> > spending> > > > long> > > > > > > > periods> > > > > > > > > > without> > > > > > > > > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul> > airline> > > > > > flights.> > > > > > > > > > Cheney had> > > > > > > > > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a> > nine-> > > > day,> > > > > > > > > > round-the-world> > > > > > > > > > > > trip.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related> > > > problems> > > > > > over> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > years.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in> > 2005> > > > to> > > > > > > repair> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > kind of> > > > > > > > > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery> > > > that> > > > > can> > > > > > > > burst> > > > > > > > > > if left> > > > > > > > > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks,> > > > quadruple> > > > > > > bypass> > > > > > > > > > surgery,> > > > > > > > > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an> > > > operation> > > > > to> > > > > > > > implant a> > > > > > > > > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest.> > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer"> > > > > > <cosmologer@>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the> > Vice> > > > > > > > President, the> > > > > > > > > > > perjury> > > > > > > > > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the> > resignation> > > > > of> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > Secretary of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems> > > > > facing> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > US> > > > > > > > > > > Presidency> > > > > > > > > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated> > > > > > > > congressional> > > > > > > > > > > hearings on> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim> > > > they> > > > > > were> > > > > > > > > fired for> > > > > > > > > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat> > by> > > > > > several> > > > > > > > US> > > > > > > > > > military> > > > > > > > > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As> > that> > > > > > were> > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > enough, in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the background to these more recent> > > > developments> > > > > is> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > ongoing> > > > > > > > > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and> > civilian> > > > > > > > > casulaties. The> > > > > > > > > > > fact> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US> > > > > > Presidency> > > > > > > > all at> > > > > > > > > > > once are> > > > > > > > > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions> > > > > > involving> > > > > > > > both the> > > > > > > > > > > natal> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer"> > > > > > > <cosmologer@>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice> > > > President> > > > > > Dick> > > > > > > > Cheney> > > > > > > > > > > had been> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg,> > after> > > > > > > returning> > > > > > > > > from a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > grueling> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health> > setback> > > > > raises> > > > > > > > > > questions about> > > > > > > > > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job> > but> > > > > > also> > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > > fitness to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President> > Bush> > > > > for> > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > reason is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to> > Vice> > > > > > > President> > > > > > > > Dick> > > > > > > > > > Cheney> > > > > > > > > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political> > > > scandal.> > > > > > Many> > > > > > > > see the> > > > > > > > > > > aide as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having become a "fall guy" to protect the> > Vice> > > > > > > > President.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent> > with> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > transit and> > > > > > > > > > > natal> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA> > USA> > > > > > chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood> > > > clot> > > > > in> > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > leg> > > > > > > > > > and is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > being> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication,> > his> > > > > office> > > > > > > > has said.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower> > left> > > > leg> > > > > on> > > > > > > > Monday> > > > > > > > > > morning> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work> > after> > > > the> > > > > > > > > examination.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning> > > > > > medication> > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > several> > > > > > > > > > > > > > months.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac> > > > > problems.> > > > > > He> > > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > > suffered> > > > > > > > > > > > > > four> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate> > heartbeat in> > > > > 2001> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis> > (DVT) -> > > > > are> > > > > > > > often> > > > > > > > > > associated> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the> > > > > reduced> > > > > > air> > > > > > > > > > pressure and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of> > > > > inactivity> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > dehydration> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots> > themselves> > > > are> > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > life-threatening> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become> > wedged in> > > > > the> > > > > > > > lungs or> > > > > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be> > fatal.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA> > leak> > > > case> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis "Scooter"> > Libby,> > > > a> > > > > > > > former top> > > > > > > > > > aide to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted> > on> > > > > > Tuesday> > > > > > > > of four> > > > > > > > > > > counts> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury> > during> > > > an> > > > > > > > > investigation> > > > > > > > > > > tied> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys> > promptly> > > > > > said> > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > > seek a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > new> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of> > lying to> > > > > the> > > > > > > FBI> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > the probe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a> > CIA> > > > > > analyst> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > 2003. He> > > > > > > > > > > > > > faces> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense> > > > > attorney> > > > > > > > Theodore> > > > > > > > > > Wells> > > > > > > > > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would> > > > > appeal> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > conviction.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Dear friends, More adversity for President Bush, which is also seen in his natal chart, as has earlier pointed out. Best wishes, Thor Dem hopefuls batter Bush The calendar on the wall may read 2007, but the nation's political calendar flipped to 2008 on Thursday night for a Democratic presidential debate. Eight hopefuls took the stage in the first bona fide event of the campaign season, aiming most of their sharpest barbs at President Bush in general and the war in Iraq in particular. http://www.cnn.com/ 'Slam dunk' comment on Iraq distorted, Tenet says POSTED: 9:08 p.m. EDT, April 26, 2007 Story Highlights• Administration twisted his meaning, former CIA director tells CBS • Term referred to making a case for war, not presence of WMDs, he says • Tenet says he resents White House's ongoing misinterpretation of comment • CIA director resigned post under fire in July 2004 NEW YORK (Reuters) -- A former U.S. spy chief accused President Bush's administration of ruining his reputation by misusing a " slam dunk " comment he made during a White House meeting ahead of the U.S.- led invasion of Iraq. SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear friends, > > More problems for the President this week. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Congress set to defy Bush on Iraq war > Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:08pm ET > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A fight between the U.S. Congress and > President George W. Bush over the Iraq war is set to come to a head > this week when Democrats are expected to send him $100 billion to pay > for continuing combat while setting timetables for withdrawing troops. > Bush has promised to veto any bill setting dates for removing U.S. > combat soldiers from the Iraq war, now in its fifth year.But when a > Democratic-controlled panel of Senate and House of Representatives > members meets on Monday to iron out differences between their > respective bills, the product is expected to contain 2008 withdrawal > dates. > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear list members, > > > > A relentless barrage of problems continues to land in the lap of > > President Bush. > > > > 1. A top ranking Democrat has publically announced that he directly > > told President Bush that the war in Iraq is lost " politically, > > militarily and economically " . > > > > 2. A senator has also demanded that the head of the Justice > > Department, Gonzales, resign. Earlier Gonzales personally apologised > > for the firings of the 8 US justices, thereby assuming > responsibility > > for the fiasco. > > > > The problems should be even greater next week in light of the > transits > > impacting the strength of transit and natal Sun in the SAMVA USA > > chart. We will soon see. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > 1. > > Iraq war is 'lost': US Democrat leader > > Apr 19 02:45 PM US/Eastern > > > > The war in Iraq " is lost " and a US troop surge is failing to bring > > peace to the country, the leader of the Democratic majority in the > US > > Congress, Harry Reid, said Thursday. " I believe ... that this war is > > lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by > the > > extreme violence in Iraq this week, " Reid told journalists. Reid > said > > he had delivered the same message to US President George W. Bush on > > Wednesday, when the US president met with senior lawmakers to > discuss > > how to end a standoff over an emergency war funding bill. " I know I > > was the odd guy out at the White House, but I told him at least what > > he needed to hear ... I believe the war at this stage can only be > won > > diplomatically, politically and economically. " Congress is seeking > to > > tie funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to a timetable to > > withdraw US troops from Iraq next year, but Bush has vowed to veto > any > > such bill and no breakthrough was reported from the White House > talks. > > Bush on Thursday was addressing an Ohio town hall meeting and > > defending the war on terror launched in the wake of the September > 11, > > 2001 attacks. " It is the most solemn duty of our country, is to > > protect our country from harm, " Bush told the invited audience in > > Tipp, Ohio. > > > > " A lesson learned was that -- at least in my opinion -- that in > order > > to protect us, we must aggressively pursue the enemy and defeat them > > elsewhere so that we do not have to face them here. " > > > > 2. > > Republican senator calls for Gonzales to quit > > POSTED: 4:14 p.m. EDT, April 19, 2007 > > Story Highlights > > • NEW: Republican Sen. Coburn urges Gonzales to resign > > • Gonzales: Alleging partisanship is an attack on career Justice > Dept. > > employees > > • Gonzales says he'll resign if he can no longer be an effective > leader > > • Sen. Arlen Specter questions attorney general on extent of > involvement > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales confronted a > > fresh call for his resignation from a fellow Republican Thursday as > he > > struggled to survive a bipartisan Senate challenge to his > credibility > > in the case of eight fired prosecutors. Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom > > Coburn told Gonzales that the situation was handled incompetently > and > > said there should be consequences. " The communication was atrocious. > > It was inconsistent -- it's generous to say that there was > > misstatements; it's a generous statement. And I believe you ought to > > suffer the consequences that these others have suffered, " Coburn > said. > > " And I believe the best way to put this behind us is your > > resignation. " Coburn is the first Republican on the Senate Judiciary > > Committee to call for Gonzales' resignation. > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > The problems facing the US Presidency are still numerous, and > don´t > > > seem to be fading away: > > > > > > - The death toll of US troops in Iraq keeps on mounting. > > > - The head of the Justice Department, Gonzales, who has been > strongly > > > backed by President Bush, in his recent problems over the firings > of > > > justices, is again in hot water. Emails now show that he > suggested > > > replacing the justices one year before they were let go. This > brings > > > the matter right to his doorstep. If he is forced to step down > that > > > would be a setback for the President. > > > - Another close associate of President Bush, Wolfowitz, head of > the > > > World Bank, is now in hot water over the pay raise he arranged > for > > > his girlfriend. While the scandal is not as big as some others it > is > > > being seized upon to try to get rid of this appointy of President > > > Bush. Many countries were upset when a symbol of US arrogance and > > > unilateral actions of the US in the world was appointed to this > body > > > and would like to get rid of him. If they succeed it would be a > > > setback for President Bush. > > > - a story is now in the news that 5 million emails in the White > House > > > are missing. The loss of emails came to light when an inquiry was > > > launched into allegations that Karl Rove, the chief political > advisor > > > to the President, had used offical email for political purposes, > > > which is banned by law. If the allegations are proven, it would > be > > > another setback for the President. > > > > > > In other words, there are continuing problems for President Bush, > > > which is not surprising in view of the transits in the SAMVA USA > > > chart, notably the aspect of transit L8 Saturn to natal L2 Sun. > The > > > afflictions involving transit L6 Jupiter and L8 Saturn are making > > > this aspect more difficult. In general, the difficult aspects > will > > > only become more difficult in the coming four weeks or so. One > > > helpful transit is that L2 Sun has now entered the sign Aries > (and > > > H10) where it is exalted. While that would ordinarily be likely > to > > > help the US President, L10 Mars is now in H8 and about to become > > > conjunct transit Rahu. This would undermine the strength of the > Sun > > > in H10. Hence, the transit of the Sun may actually only add to > the > > > difficulty of problems facing President Bush in the coming week > or > > > two. We will see how things turn out. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > White House: Millions of e-mails may be missing > > > POSTED: 7:07 p.m. EDT, April 13, 2007 > > > Story Highlights• NEW: White House spokeswoman says 5 million > > > official e-mails may be missing > > > • White House admits it should have kept e-mails on private GOP > system > > > • Chairman of Senate Judiciary Committee doubts e-mails are > deleted > > > • Committee investigating whether U.S. attorneys' firings were > > > politically motivated > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Millions of White House e-mails may be > missing, > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino acknowledged Friday. > > > > > > " I wouldn't rule out that there were a potential 5 million e- > mails > > > lost, " Perino told reporters. > > > > > > The administration was already facing sharp questions about > whether > > > top presidential advisers including Karl Rove improperly used > > > Republican National Committee e-mail that the White House said > later > > > disappeared. > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > The following six news headlines on DrudgeReport.com today > about > > > the > > > > policy debate in the USA over the war in Iraq give a > fascinating > > > > overview of the current political situation. > > > > > > > > Democrats Escalate Iraq War Debate... > > > > Reid May Move to Cut Funds... > > > > CHENEY: MILITARY ANSWERS TO ONE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF... > > > > House Republicans Have Votes To Sustain Veto... > > > > Hillary Challenges Veto Threat... > > > > Bush Rips Dems Over War Funding... > > > > > > > > These news headlines show clearly what an epic power struggle > has > > > > developed between the Democratically controlled Congress > > > (Legislative > > > > branch of government) and the Republican controlled White House > > > > (Executive branch of government). The problems for President > Bush > > > are > > > > indeed significant at this time. > > > > > > > > These problems are clearly reflected in the SAMVA USA chart, > with > > > > transit L8 Saturn having reached 24° 24' Cancer H1 in > opposition to > > > > natal L2 Sun at 23° 45' Capricorn. Saturn will become > stationary > > > at > > > > 24° 11' Cancer in the third week of April, In terms of this > aspect, > > > > the greatest strain for the indications of the Sun should be > felt. > > > > > > > > As mentioned in other posts there are numerous other aspects to > > > > consider, not least the stationary nodes impact on the house > MEPs > > > and > > > > natal L4 Venus in H6 and the impact of transit L6 Jupiter in H5 > on > > > > transit L8 Saturn in H1. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Two news items have appeared this weekend signalling > difficulty > > > for > > > > > President Bush, also related to 4th house matters. One has to > do > > > > with > > > > > emission of greenhouse gasses. The other story has to do with > > > > > regulations concerning logging in wildlife areas. Bush had > > > proposed > > > > > more freedom, but the judge insisted that environmental > > > > > considerations be brought into the picture, reversing the > > > > regulation. > > > > > Such stories show the impact of the present transits in the > SAMVA > > > > USA > > > > > chart with regard to L2 Sun and L4 Venus. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > Split court rules against Bush on greenhouse gases > > > > > POSTED: 10:50 a.m. EDT, April 2, 2007 > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ordered the federal > > > government > > > > > on Monday to take a fresh look at regulating carbon dioxide > > > > emissions > > > > > from cars, a rebuke to Bush administration policy on global > > > warming. > > > > > > > > > > In a 5-4 decision, the court said the Clean Air Act gives the > > > > > Environmental Protection Agency the authority to regulate the > > > > > emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from > cars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/02/scotus.greenhousegas.ap/index.html > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional clarification. > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, there is an unusual amount of adverse transit > impacts > > > > > active > > > > > > at present in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by > you > > > and > > > > > > take part in > > > > > > > making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting > > > > situations > > > > > > and > > > > > > > obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at > the > > > > > highest > > > > > > level in > > > > > > > US. I was partially looking into the aspect of conflicts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional insights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For clarity, would you consider the influence of transit > > > nodes > > > > on > > > > > H2 > > > > > > > MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in > turn > > > its > > > > > > > affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to > explain > > > these > > > > > > > events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn on > > > natal > > > > L2 > > > > > > > Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8 > Saturn > > > on > > > > > > > natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the > > > indications > > > > of > > > > > > > the Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of conflicts > and > > > the > > > > > > > close > > > > > > > > affliction to the MEP of the second house by Rahu/Ketu > axis > > > > are > > > > > > > showing the > > > > > > > > impact of current affliction in the chart in a > pronounced > > > > > manner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The > > > Democratically > > > > > > > > controlled Congress since last November has begun to > show > > > its > > > > > > teeth > > > > > > > > and has in recent weeks created major problems for the > > > > > President, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has > been > > > > > passed > > > > > > > > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops from > > > Iraq. > > > > > > > > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared > the > > > US > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President > now > > > has > > > > > only > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed in > both > > > > > > chambers > > > > > > > > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a > > > > development > > > > > is > > > > > > > > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments even > > > > further, > > > > > > > > adding to the problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and > period > > > > > > > dynmamics > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 Saturn > in > > > H1 > > > > > now > > > > > > > > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart > Saturn > > > > rules > > > > > > > > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules the 'leader > of > > > the > > > > > > > > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such > affliction. > > > > > > > Moreover, > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of > the 'executive' > > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught up > in > > > > this > > > > > > > > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In > coming > > > > > days > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the > > > conditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This and other political developments show clearly that > the > > > > > > > prediction > > > > > > > > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in the > > > Spring > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > is being realised. The chart also suggests the > intensity of > > > > the > > > > > > > > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate > in > > > the > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > half of May. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote > > > > > > > > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to veto > > > > > > > > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from > funding > > > bill > > > > > > > > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes > failure > > > > in > > > > > > Iraq > > > > > > > > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, > sets > > > > > March > > > > > > > 2008 > > > > > > > > deadline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the > Democratic- > > > led > > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for > U.S. > > > > > > > withdrawal > > > > > > > > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds > > > majority > > > > > > needed > > > > > > > > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a > sign > > > of > > > > > > growing > > > > > > > > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This is a strong message which amplifies the action of > the > > > > > House > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American > > > people, " > > > > > said > > > > > > > Sen. > > > > > > > > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must be > > > > heeded > > > > > by > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > president and by the government of Iraq. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin > > > > withdrawing > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by next > > > March. > > > > A > > > > > > > > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on > training > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, > said > > > that > > > > > > > > effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo > to > > > our > > > > > > enemies > > > > > > > > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the > day we > > > > > > leave, " > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them we > > > plan > > > > to > > > > > > walk > > > > > > > > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what we > > > leave > > > > > > > behind. " > > > > > > > > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 > billion > > > > > already > > > > > > > > approved for this year and would drive the price tag > for the > > > > > > > > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. > The > > > > > Pentagon > > > > > > > > says it would have to start diverting funds from other > > > > programs > > > > > to > > > > > > > > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives > with > > > an > > > > > > August > > > > > > > > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto any > > > bill > > > > > that > > > > > > > > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he > considers > > > > > > > extraneous > > > > > > > > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure > > > > > > as " political > > > > > > > > theater. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that > threat > > > > > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving in > the > > > > > field, > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This > and > > > > other > > > > > > > > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq at > > > grave > > > > > > risk, > > > > > > > > embolden our enemies and undercut the administration's > > > plans > > > > to > > > > > > > > develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. > commander > > > > > outline > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > concerns Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority > fell > > > > short > > > > > of > > > > > > > > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. > > > > > Republicans > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous > statements > > > of > > > > > > > > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP would > not > > > > use > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this > case > > > > > because > > > > > > > > " it's important to get the money to the troops. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call > for a > > > > > > pullout > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy > mistake of > > > > our > > > > > > > time " > > > > > > > > to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis it > is > > > > their > > > > > > > > country. It is their war. It is their future, " he said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White > House > > > > > > hustling > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a > > > > possible > > > > > > tie. > > > > > > > > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid > > > acknowledged, " We > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > know how it's going to turn out. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and > Gordon > > > > > Smith > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP- > backed > > > > > > amendment. > > > > > > > > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people are demanding that we develop a > > > > bipartisan > > > > > > > > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit > strategy > > > from > > > > > > Iraq, " > > > > > > > > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential > > > candidate. " If > > > > we > > > > > > > fail > > > > > > > > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, > > > > America > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will > have > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > recovering from in the years ahead. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined > Connecticut > > > > > > independent > > > > > > > > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. > And > > > > > Virginia > > > > > > > > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's plan > to > > > > send > > > > > > > 30,000 > > > > > > > > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on > > > > Tuesday's > > > > > > vote, > > > > > > > > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the > bugle > > > of > > > > > > > retreat. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret in > Iraq > > > > that > > > > > > > > coalition forces have begun to take the first step > > > > backwards, " > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services > > > > > > > Committee. " We > > > > > > > > cannot take that step -- not at this time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > <cosmologer@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear David and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the > US > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > clearly above normal levels these days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time for > the > > > > > > > military. It > > > > > > > > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is > opposite > > > > > transit > > > > > > > L8 > > > > > > > > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine > officers, > > > > > including > > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in > the > > > > > aftermath > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, > AP > > > > reports > > > > > > > citing > > > > > > > > > senior defense officials. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " > <david@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear thor... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------- -- > ---- > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior Secretary > J. > > > > > Steven > > > > > > > Griles > > > > > > > > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in a > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest- > ranking > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > administration official convicted in the Jack > Abramoff > > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > scandal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior > Department > > > > > admitted > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his > > > > > relationship > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought > Griles' > > > > > > > > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's > Indian > > > > > tribal > > > > > > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for > testifying > > > > > > falsely > > > > > > > > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on > November 2, > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's > > > investigators > > > > on > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > 20, 2005. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the > > > > > > > responsibility for > > > > > > > > > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " Griles > said > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, > they > > > > must > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my place > to > > > > > decide > > > > > > > > > whether those questions are relevant or too personal. > I > > > > > > apologize > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > cosmologer > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of natal > Sun > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > SAMVA USA > > > > > > > > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of > obstacles > > > > > being > > > > > > > > thrown in > > > > > > > > > > the way of President Bush. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > > > > > > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to > require > > > > > > > President > > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall > 2008, > > > > > despite > > > > > > > a White > > > > > > > > > > House veto threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > > > > > > > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted > > > Friday > > > > to > > > > > > > order > > > > > > > > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from > Iraq > > > > next > > > > > > > year, a > > > > > > > > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers > struggle > > > and > > > > > > > Congress' > > > > > > > > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's > policy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers > voted > > > 218- > > > > > 212, > > > > > > > mostly > > > > > > > > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill > requiring > > > > that > > > > > > > combat > > > > > > > > > > operations cease before September 2008, or > earlier if > > > > the > > > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > > > government does not meet certain requirements. > > > > Democrats > > > > > > said > > > > > > > it was > > > > > > > > > > time to heed the mandate of their election sweep > last > > > > > > > November, > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the > > > president's > > > > > > > conduct of > > > > > > > > > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D- > > > > Calif. " The > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > > people see the reality of the war, the president > does > > > > > not. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush > warned > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > Tuesday to > > > > > > > > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify > about the > > > > > > > firings of > > > > > > > > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not > under > > > oath > > > > or > > > > > > > risk a > > > > > > > > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would not > > > back > > > > > down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift > and > > > > firm: > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > said they > > > > > > > > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as > > > > Wednesday > > > > > for > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > > > > House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under > oath. > > > > > That's > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > formula > > > > > > > > > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, > > > > chairman > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the > White > > > > House, > > > > > > > said, > > > > > > > > > " We will > > > > > > > > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing expedition > > > aimed > > > > at > > > > > > > honorable > > > > > > > > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a > reasonable > > > way > > > > to > > > > > > > avoid an > > > > > > > > > > > impasse. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for him > and > > > it > > > > is > > > > > > > > natural to > > > > > > > > > > > consider replacing them. " There is no > indication > > > that > > > > > > > anybody did > > > > > > > > > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, > Alberto > > > > > > Gonzales, > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > boost > > > > > > > > > > > during an early morning call and ended the day > with > > > a > > > > > > public > > > > > > > > > statement > > > > > > > > > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " Bush > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales > of > > > his > > > > > > > authority to > > > > > > > > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate > > > > > confirmation. > > > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > > > contend the Justice Department and White House > > > purged > > > > > > eight > > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading > political > > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot > Act > > > gave > > > > > > > > Gonzales the > > > > > > > > > > > new authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential > hopefuls > > > > > Hillary > > > > > > > Rodham > > > > > > > > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John > Edwards, > > > > have > > > > > > > > called for > > > > > > > > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a > handful > > > of > > > > > > > Republican > > > > > > > > > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal > really > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > intimidation > > > > > > > > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,' " > said > > > > Sen. > > > > > > > Sheldon > > > > > > > > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who > > > spent > > > > > much > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents released > by > > > the > > > > > > > Justice > > > > > > > > > > Department. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred > Fielding, > > > told > > > > > > > lawmakers > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl > Rove, > > > > former > > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but > only > > > on > > > > the > > > > > > > > president's > > > > > > > > > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an > oath " > > > and > > > > > > > without a > > > > > > > > > > > transcript. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually > > > > unprecedented > > > > > > and > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the > > > > information > > > > > it > > > > > > > needs > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move forward > and > > > > find > > > > > > > the right > > > > > > > > > > > information, they ought to accept what I > proposed, " > > > > Bush > > > > > > > said. " If > > > > > > > > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then > the > > > > > rejection > > > > > > > of this > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident for > the > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > people to > > > > > > > > > > > see. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in court > any > > > > > attempt > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > subpoena > > > > > > > > > > > White House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in > constant > > > > fear > > > > > of > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > hauled > > > > > > > > > > > before various committees to discuss internal > > > > > > > deliberations, the > > > > > > > > > > > president would not receive candid advice and > the > > > > > American > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the > > > > situation > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > gotten to > > > > > > > > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., > for > > > you. > > > > > You > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate > probe > > > > > into > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > firings, > > > > > > > > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the > White > > > > > House: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk > to > > > > them, > > > > > > > but not > > > > > > > > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom > of > > > what > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > > > > here. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally > > > > > required > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > tell the > > > > > > > > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript of > their > > > > > > > comments, " it > > > > > > > > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they > would > > > be > > > > > > under > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > kind > > > > > > > > > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few > hours > > > > > after > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > spoke > > > > > > > > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call- > their > > > > first > > > > > > > > > conversation > > > > > > > > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes > by his > > > > > > > longtime > > > > > > > > friend > > > > > > > > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for > > > Gonzales' > > > > > > > ouster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews > with > > > > Rove, > > > > > > > Miers, > > > > > > > > > deputy > > > > > > > > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott > > > > > Jennings, > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > deputy to > > > > > > > > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, who > > > works > > > > > for > > > > > > > Rove. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and conducted > > > > without > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > need for > > > > > > > > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or > the > > > > > > subsequent > > > > > > > > issuance > > > > > > > > > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to the > > > > Senate > > > > > and > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking > Republicans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice > > > > > Department " do > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > reflect > > > > > > > > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to > interfere > > > with > > > > a > > > > > > > pending or > > > > > > > > > > > future criminal investigation or for any other > > > > improper > > > > > > > reason. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven > contributed > > > to > > > > > this > > > > > > > repo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another > health > > > > > > incident > > > > > > > > today. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because > of > > > the > > > > > > scandal > > > > > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > > > > > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General > this > > > > > morning > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > confirm his > > > > > > > > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for > him to > > > > > resign > > > > > > > or be > > > > > > > > > > removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary > Committee > > > > has > > > > > > > insisted > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the > President, > > > > testify > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > oath > > > > > > > > > > > > before the committee about his role in the > > > firings > > > > of > > > > > > > eight US > > > > > > > > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered to > > > have > > > > him > > > > > > > > > interviewed but > > > > > > > > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US > > > Presidency > > > > are > > > > > > > > > consistent with > > > > > > > > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal L2 > Sun > > > > and > > > > > > H2, > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > well as > > > > > > > > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit L2 > Sun > > > and > > > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, > > > > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in > leg > > > > with > > > > > > clot > > > > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for treatment > after > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > with blood clot > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications with > clot > > > > > > > discovered in > > > > > > > > > > February > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after > treatment > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney > > > went > > > > to > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday > morning > > > after > > > > > > > > experiencing > > > > > > > > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a > blood > > > > clot > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > discovered a > > > > > > > > > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney was > > > asked > > > > to > > > > > > > return > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of the > > > deep > > > > > > venous > > > > > > > > > thrombosis, > > > > > > > > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman Megan > > > McGinn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or > > > > complication > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > clot, " > > > > > > > > > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication was > > > found > > > > to > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > therapeutic. > > > > > > > > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, > and > > > the > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > course of > > > > > > > > > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to resume > his > > > > > normal > > > > > > > > > schedule, she > > > > > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered a > > > blood > > > > > clot > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the vice > > > > > > > > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that > he > > > > likely > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > have to be > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for > > > several > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the time > > > that > > > > the > > > > > > > > > 66-year-old had > > > > > > > > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 after > > > > feeling > > > > > > minor > > > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood > clot - > > > - > > > > > > > called a > > > > > > > > deep > > > > > > > > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can > become > > > > > > killers > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is > > > called a > > > > > > > pulmonary > > > > > > > > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an > > > estimated > > > > 2 > > > > > > > million > > > > > > > > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after > spending > > > long > > > > > > > periods > > > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul > airline > > > > > flights. > > > > > > > > > Cheney had > > > > > > > > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a > nine- > > > day, > > > > > > > > > round-the-world > > > > > > > > > > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related > > > problems > > > > > over > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in > 2005 > > > to > > > > > > repair > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > kind of > > > > > > > > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an artery > > > that > > > > can > > > > > > > burst > > > > > > > > > if left > > > > > > > > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, > > > quadruple > > > > > > bypass > > > > > > > > > surgery, > > > > > > > > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an > > > operation > > > > to > > > > > > > implant a > > > > > > > > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the > Vice > > > > > > > President, the > > > > > > > > > > perjury > > > > > > > > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the > resignation > > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Secretary of > > > > > > > > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major problems > > > > facing > > > > > the > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have instigated > > > > > > > congressional > > > > > > > > > > hearings on > > > > > > > > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who claim > > > they > > > > > were > > > > > > > > fired for > > > > > > > > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the threat > by > > > > > several > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > military > > > > > > > > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. As > that > > > > > were > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > enough, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the background to these more recent > > > developments > > > > is > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > ongoing > > > > > > > > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and > civilian > > > > > > > > casulaties. The > > > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the US > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > all at > > > > > > > > > > once are > > > > > > > > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit afflictions > > > > > involving > > > > > > > both the > > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice > > > President > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > had been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, > after > > > > > > returning > > > > > > > > from a > > > > > > > > > > > > > grueling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health > setback > > > > raises > > > > > > > > > questions about > > > > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding job > but > > > > > also > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > fitness to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > become President of the USA if President > Bush > > > > for > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > reason is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to > Vice > > > > > > President > > > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political > > > scandal. > > > > > Many > > > > > > > see the > > > > > > > > > > aide as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect the > Vice > > > > > > > President. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are consistent > with > > > > the > > > > > > > > transit and > > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the SAMVA > USA > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a blood > > > clot > > > > in > > > > > > his > > > > > > > leg > > > > > > > > > and is > > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, > his > > > > office > > > > > > > has said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower > left > > > leg > > > > on > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work > after > > > the > > > > > > > > examination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning > > > > > medication > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac > > > > problems. > > > > > He > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > suffered > > > > > > > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate > heartbeat in > > > > 2001 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis > (DVT) - > > > > are > > > > > > > often > > > > > > > > > associated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of the > > > > reduced > > > > > air > > > > > > > > > pressure and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of > > > > inactivity > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > dehydration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots > themselves > > > are > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > life-threatening > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become > wedged in > > > > the > > > > > > > lungs or > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be > fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA > leak > > > case > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " > Libby, > > > a > > > > > > > former top > > > > > > > > > aide to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted > on > > > > > Tuesday > > > > > > > of four > > > > > > > > > > counts > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury > during > > > an > > > > > > > > investigation > > > > > > > > > > tied > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys > promptly > > > > > said > > > > > > he > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > seek a > > > > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of > lying to > > > > the > > > > > > FBI > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the probe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of a > CIA > > > > > analyst > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > 2003. He > > > > > > > > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. Defense > > > > attorney > > > > > > > Theodore > > > > > > > > > Wells > > > > > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he would > > > > appeal > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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