Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Dear friends, The attacks continue on President Bush over his decision to wage war in Iraq. The fiery rhetoric against the President by leading Democratic candidates, who are vying with each other for the nomination by their party to become the candidate of their party in the upcoming Presidential elections is quite pronounced and reflects the apparent divisiveness that marks the social debate at this time. The rhetoric is clearly more partisan, divisive and personal than it was four years ago. Best wishes, Thor Dems chase California votes and dollars POSTED: 1:56 a.m. EDT, April 29, 2007 Story Highlights • Leading candidates take turns bashing conduct of Iraq war • Clinton calls Bush a liar, says he ignores science • Obama calls for " turning the page " on several issues • California a prime source of campaign donations for both parties SAN DIEGO, California (AP) -- Presidential contender Barack Obama vowed Saturday to " turn the page on this Iraq disaster " while Hillary Rodham Clinton denounced President Bush's tenure as " one of the darkest blots on leadership we've ever had. " California, long a major cash source for candidates of both parties, is poised to become more influential in the electoral process as well, having moved its primary to next February 5. As a result, the state Democratic convention this weekend was expected to attract all the party's major presidential contenders except Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, who was campaigning in South Carolina. (Watch California activists flex their new muscles Video) Saturday's program featured appearances by front-runners Clinton and Obama, as well as Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd and Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich. Clinton unleashed an unusually personal critique of Bush, accusing his administration of ignoring scientific evidence about global warming and stem-cell research and lying about the effects of toxic dust at the World Trade Center site. Her voice hoarse from days of campaigning, Clinton brought the 2,000 delegates to their feet when she said she wished she could turn the clock back to a different time. " Somebody said to me that he wished we could just rewind the 21st century and just eliminate the Bush-Cheney administration, with all their mistakes and misjudgments, " she said to cheers. " People are ready for leaders who understand it is our votes who put them in power, our tax dollars that pay the bills. " Obama, who has made his early opposition to the Iraq conflict a central theme of his campaign, told delegates he was proud to have bucked popular opinion at the time. It was a subtle but direct jab at Clinton, who voted in 2002 to grant Bush authority to invade Iraq. He also renewed his call for the parties to find common ground where they could and declared it was time to " turn the page " on issues like health care, education and energy independence. But he, like Clinton, also leveled a sharp critique of Bush, saying " the president may occupy the White House, but for the last six years the position of leader of the free world has remained open. " Both Obama and Clinton were received warmly by the left-leaning, activist crowd -- a stark contrast to the same convention four years ago, when the party was bitterly divided over the Iraq war. There, former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean -- then a little-known figure in the 2004 Democratic field -- thrilled delegates with his fiery denunciation of the conflict. His rivals at the time, including Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, who eventually won the nomination, were loudly booed for defending their 2002 vote to authorize the war. Clinton cast the same vote in 2002, but met with only sporadic heckling during her speech. The New York senator also promised to " treat all Americans with dignity and equality no matter who you are and who you love. " The pledge was a clear bow to California's politically active and influential gay community. She lambasted the speech nearly four years ago in which Bush -- under a " Mission Accomplished " banner on an aircraft carrier returning to home port -- declared an end to major military actions in Iraq. That speech, Clinton said, was " one of the most shameful episodes in American history. ... The only mission he accomplished was the re-election of Republicans. " SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear friends, > > More adversity for President Bush, which is also seen in his natal > chart, as has earlier pointed out. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Dem hopefuls batter Bush > The calendar on the wall may read 2007, but the nation's political > calendar flipped to 2008 on Thursday night for a Democratic > presidential debate. Eight hopefuls took the stage in the first bona > fide event of the campaign season, aiming most of their sharpest > barbs at President Bush in general and the war in Iraq in particular. > http://www.cnn.com/ > > > 'Slam dunk' comment on Iraq distorted, Tenet says > POSTED: 9:08 p.m. EDT, April 26, 2007 > Story Highlights• Administration twisted his meaning, former CIA > director tells CBS > • Term referred to making a case for war, not presence of WMDs, he > says > • Tenet says he resents White House's ongoing misinterpretation of > comment > • CIA director resigned post under fire in July 2004 > NEW YORK (Reuters) -- A former U.S. spy chief accused President > Bush's administration of ruining his reputation by misusing a " slam > dunk " comment he made during a White House meeting ahead of the U.S.- > led invasion of Iraq. > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > More problems for the President this week. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > Congress set to defy Bush on Iraq war > > Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:08pm ET > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A fight between the U.S. Congress and > > President George W. Bush over the Iraq war is set to come to a head > > this week when Democrats are expected to send him $100 billion to > pay > > for continuing combat while setting timetables for withdrawing > troops. > > Bush has promised to veto any bill setting dates for removing U.S. > > combat soldiers from the Iraq war, now in its fifth year.But when a > > Democratic-controlled panel of Senate and House of Representatives > > members meets on Monday to iron out differences between their > > respective bills, the product is expected to contain 2008 > withdrawal > > dates. > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > A relentless barrage of problems continues to land in the lap of > > > President Bush. > > > > > > 1. A top ranking Democrat has publically announced that he > directly > > > told President Bush that the war in Iraq is lost " politically, > > > militarily and economically " . > > > > > > 2. A senator has also demanded that the head of the Justice > > > Department, Gonzales, resign. Earlier Gonzales personally > apologised > > > for the firings of the 8 US justices, thereby assuming > > responsibility > > > for the fiasco. > > > > > > The problems should be even greater next week in light of the > > transits > > > impacting the strength of transit and natal Sun in the SAMVA USA > > > chart. We will soon see. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > Iraq war is 'lost': US Democrat leader > > > Apr 19 02:45 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > The war in Iraq " is lost " and a US troop surge is failing to bring > > > peace to the country, the leader of the Democratic majority in > the > > US > > > Congress, Harry Reid, said Thursday. " I believe ... that this war > is > > > lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown > by > > the > > > extreme violence in Iraq this week, " Reid told journalists. Reid > > said > > > he had delivered the same message to US President George W. Bush > on > > > Wednesday, when the US president met with senior lawmakers to > > discuss > > > how to end a standoff over an emergency war funding bill. " I know > I > > > was the odd guy out at the White House, but I told him at least > what > > > he needed to hear ... I believe the war at this stage can only be > > won > > > diplomatically, politically and economically. " Congress is > seeking > > to > > > tie funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to a timetable to > > > withdraw US troops from Iraq next year, but Bush has vowed to > veto > > any > > > such bill and no breakthrough was reported from the White House > > talks. > > > Bush on Thursday was addressing an Ohio town hall meeting and > > > defending the war on terror launched in the wake of the September > > 11, > > > 2001 attacks. " It is the most solemn duty of our country, is to > > > protect our country from harm, " Bush told the invited audience in > > > Tipp, Ohio. > > > > > > " A lesson learned was that -- at least in my opinion -- that in > > order > > > to protect us, we must aggressively pursue the enemy and defeat > them > > > elsewhere so that we do not have to face them here. " > > > > > > 2. > > > Republican senator calls for Gonzales to quit > > > POSTED: 4:14 p.m. EDT, April 19, 2007 > > > Story Highlights > > > • NEW: Republican Sen. Coburn urges Gonzales to resign > > > • Gonzales: Alleging partisanship is an attack on career Justice > > Dept. > > > employees > > > • Gonzales says he'll resign if he can no longer be an effective > > leader > > > • Sen. Arlen Specter questions attorney general on extent of > > involvement > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales confronted a > > > fresh call for his resignation from a fellow Republican Thursday > as > > he > > > struggled to survive a bipartisan Senate challenge to his > > credibility > > > in the case of eight fired prosecutors. Oklahoma Republican Sen. > Tom > > > Coburn told Gonzales that the situation was handled incompetently > > and > > > said there should be consequences. " The communication was > atrocious. > > > It was inconsistent -- it's generous to say that there was > > > misstatements; it's a generous statement. And I believe you ought > to > > > suffer the consequences that these others have suffered, " Coburn > > said. > > > " And I believe the best way to put this behind us is your > > > resignation. " Coburn is the first Republican on the Senate > Judiciary > > > Committee to call for Gonzales' resignation. > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > The problems facing the US Presidency are still numerous, and > > don´t > > > > seem to be fading away: > > > > > > > > - The death toll of US troops in Iraq keeps on mounting. > > > > - The head of the Justice Department, Gonzales, who has been > > strongly > > > > backed by President Bush, in his recent problems over the > firings > > of > > > > justices, is again in hot water. Emails now show that he > > suggested > > > > replacing the justices one year before they were let go. This > > brings > > > > the matter right to his doorstep. If he is forced to step down > > that > > > > would be a setback for the President. > > > > - Another close associate of President Bush, Wolfowitz, head of > > the > > > > World Bank, is now in hot water over the pay raise he arranged > > for > > > > his girlfriend. While the scandal is not as big as some others > it > > is > > > > being seized upon to try to get rid of this appointy of > President > > > > Bush. Many countries were upset when a symbol of US arrogance > and > > > > unilateral actions of the US in the world was appointed to this > > body > > > > and would like to get rid of him. If they succeed it would be a > > > > setback for President Bush. > > > > - a story is now in the news that 5 million emails in the White > > House > > > > are missing. The loss of emails came to light when an inquiry > was > > > > launched into allegations that Karl Rove, the chief political > > advisor > > > > to the President, had used offical email for political > purposes, > > > > which is banned by law. If the allegations are proven, it would > > be > > > > another setback for the President. > > > > > > > > In other words, there are continuing problems for President > Bush, > > > > which is not surprising in view of the transits in the SAMVA > USA > > > > chart, notably the aspect of transit L8 Saturn to natal L2 Sun. > > The > > > > afflictions involving transit L6 Jupiter and L8 Saturn are > making > > > > this aspect more difficult. In general, the difficult aspects > > will > > > > only become more difficult in the coming four weeks or so. One > > > > helpful transit is that L2 Sun has now entered the sign Aries > > (and > > > > H10) where it is exalted. While that would ordinarily be likely > > to > > > > help the US President, L10 Mars is now in H8 and about to > become > > > > conjunct transit Rahu. This would undermine the strength of the > > Sun > > > > in H10. Hence, the transit of the Sun may actually only add to > > the > > > > difficulty of problems facing President Bush in the coming week > > or > > > > two. We will see how things turn out. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > White House: Millions of e-mails may be missing > > > > POSTED: 7:07 p.m. EDT, April 13, 2007 > > > > Story Highlights• NEW: White House spokeswoman says 5 million > > > > official e-mails may be missing > > > > • White House admits it should have kept e-mails on private GOP > > system > > > > • Chairman of Senate Judiciary Committee doubts e-mails are > > deleted > > > > • Committee investigating whether U.S. attorneys' firings were > > > > politically motivated > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Millions of White House e-mails may be > > missing, > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino acknowledged Friday. > > > > > > > > " I wouldn't rule out that there were a potential 5 million e- > > mails > > > > lost, " Perino told reporters. > > > > > > > > The administration was already facing sharp questions about > > whether > > > > top presidential advisers including Karl Rove improperly used > > > > Republican National Committee e-mail that the White House said > > later > > > > disappeared. > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > The following six news headlines on DrudgeReport.com today > > about > > > > the > > > > > policy debate in the USA over the war in Iraq give a > > fascinating > > > > > overview of the current political situation. > > > > > > > > > > Democrats Escalate Iraq War Debate... > > > > > Reid May Move to Cut Funds... > > > > > CHENEY: MILITARY ANSWERS TO ONE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF... > > > > > House Republicans Have Votes To Sustain Veto... > > > > > Hillary Challenges Veto Threat... > > > > > Bush Rips Dems Over War Funding... > > > > > > > > > > These news headlines show clearly what an epic power struggle > > has > > > > > developed between the Democratically controlled Congress > > > > (Legislative > > > > > branch of government) and the Republican controlled White > House > > > > > (Executive branch of government). The problems for President > > Bush > > > > are > > > > > indeed significant at this time. > > > > > > > > > > These problems are clearly reflected in the SAMVA USA chart, > > with > > > > > transit L8 Saturn having reached 24° 24' Cancer H1 in > > opposition to > > > > > natal L2 Sun at 23° 45' Capricorn. Saturn will become > > stationary > > > > at > > > > > 24° 11' Cancer in the third week of April, In terms of this > > aspect, > > > > > the greatest strain for the indications of the Sun should be > > felt. > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned in other posts there are numerous other aspects > to > > > > > consider, not least the stationary nodes impact on the house > > MEPs > > > > and > > > > > natal L4 Venus in H6 and the impact of transit L6 Jupiter in > H5 > > on > > > > > transit L8 Saturn in H1. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Two news items have appeared this weekend signalling > > difficulty > > > > for > > > > > > President Bush, also related to 4th house matters. One has > to > > do > > > > > with > > > > > > emission of greenhouse gasses. The other story has to do > with > > > > > > regulations concerning logging in wildlife areas. Bush had > > > > proposed > > > > > > more freedom, but the judge insisted that environmental > > > > > > considerations be brought into the picture, reversing the > > > > > regulation. > > > > > > Such stories show the impact of the present transits in the > > SAMVA > > > > > USA > > > > > > chart with regard to L2 Sun and L4 Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > Split court rules against Bush on greenhouse gases > > > > > > POSTED: 10:50 a.m. EDT, April 2, 2007 > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ordered the federal > > > > government > > > > > > on Monday to take a fresh look at regulating carbon dioxide > > > > > emissions > > > > > > from cars, a rebuke to Bush administration policy on global > > > > warming. > > > > > > > > > > > > In a 5-4 decision, the court said the Clean Air Act gives > the > > > > > > Environmental Protection Agency the authority to regulate > the > > > > > > emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from > > cars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/02/scotus.greenhousegas.ap/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional clarification. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, there is an unusual amount of adverse transit > > impacts > > > > > > active > > > > > > > at present in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the TTT afflictions are operating as brought out by > > you > > > > and > > > > > > > take part in > > > > > > > > making the situation difficult in terms of conflicting > > > > > situations > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > obstructions in dealing with administrative matters at > > the > > > > > > highest > > > > > > > level in > > > > > > > > US. I was partially looking into the aspect of > conflicts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:39 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional insights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For clarity, would you consider the influence of > transit > > > > nodes > > > > > on > > > > > > H2 > > > > > > > > MEP and transit L6 Jupiter on transit L8 Saturn and in > > turn > > > > its > > > > > > > > affliction by natal L8 Saturn as more important to > > explain > > > > these > > > > > > > > events than the growing influence of transit L8 Saturn > on > > > > natal > > > > > L2 > > > > > > > > Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, would you also then expect the affliction of L8 > > Saturn > > > > on > > > > > > > > natal L2 Sun to manifest in graver problems for the > > > > indications > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly Jupiter being lord of the house of > conflicts > > and > > > > the > > > > > > > > close > > > > > > > > > affliction to the MEP of the second house by > Rahu/Ketu > > axis > > > > > are > > > > > > > > showing the > > > > > > > > > impact of current affliction in the chart in a > > pronounced > > > > > > manner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:35 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The SAMVA USA chart is looking ever better. The > > > > Democratically > > > > > > > > > controlled Congress since last November has begun to > > show > > > > its > > > > > > > teeth > > > > > > > > > and has in recent weeks created major problems for > the > > > > > > President, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > now more recently with new legislation. Now a law has > > been > > > > > > passed > > > > > > > > > setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US troops > from > > > > Iraq. > > > > > > > > > President Bush is vehemently opposed and has declared > > the > > > > US > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > not withdraw until the job is done. The US President > > now > > > > has > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > recourse and that is to veto the legislation passed > in > > both > > > > > > > chambers > > > > > > > > > of Congress (the House and Senate). However, such a > > > > > development > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > only likely to increase the bi-partisan sentiments > even > > > > > further, > > > > > > > > > adding to the problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such developments are consistent with the transit and > > period > > > > > > > > dynmamics > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart - with notably transit L8 > Saturn > > in > > > > H1 > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > closely afflicting natal L2 Sun in H7. In the chart > > Saturn > > > > > rules > > > > > > > > > 'obstacles and endings' while the Sun rules > the 'leader > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > > > country'. This affliction arouses the natal such > > affliction. > > > > > > > > Moreover, > > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, which is the functional ruler of > > the 'executive' > > > > > and > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > general indicator of the 'military', has been caught > up > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > affliction as it transits through late Capricorn. In > > coming > > > > > > days > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > will enter the 8th house, which does not ease the > > > > conditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This and other political developments show clearly > that > > the > > > > > > > > prediction > > > > > > > > > of signficant difficulties for the US Presidency in > the > > > > Spring > > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > > is being realised. The chart also suggests the > > intensity of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > difficulties will increase before they begin to abate > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > > half of May. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Withdrawal timeline survives Senate vote > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 10:26 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > . NEW: White House reiterates president's threat to > veto > > > > > > > > > . Senate defeats amendment to strip deadline from > > funding > > > > bill > > > > > > > > > . Administration contends setting timetable assumes > > failure > > > > > in > > > > > > > Iraq > > > > > > > > > . Bill funds spending on wars in Iraq and > Afghanistan, > > sets > > > > > > March > > > > > > > > 2008 > > > > > > > > > deadline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Defying President Bush, the > > Democratic- > > > > led > > > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > turned back a Republican attempt to remove a call for > > U.S. > > > > > > > > withdrawal > > > > > > > > > from Iraq from a $124 billion war-spending bill, > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though the 50-48 vote is far short of the two-thirds > > > > majority > > > > > > > needed > > > > > > > > > to override a veto, Democrats said the measure was a > > sign > > > > of > > > > > > > growing > > > > > > > > > support for bringing the four-year-old war to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This is a strong message which amplifies the action > of > > the > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > reflects the overwhelming sentiment of the American > > > > people, " > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > Sen. > > > > > > > > > Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island. " It's a message that must > be > > > > > heeded > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > president and by the government of Iraq. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bill would require U.S. combat troops to begin > > > > > withdrawing > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > Iraq within 120 days and complete that pullout by > next > > > > March. > > > > > A > > > > > > > > > reduced American contingent would stay to focus on > > training > > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > > troops and police and battling al Qaeda terrorists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, > > said > > > > that > > > > > > > > > effectively sets a " surrender date " in the war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Setting a date for withdrawal is like sending a memo > > to > > > > our > > > > > > > enemies > > > > > > > > > that tells them to rest, refit and re-plan until the > > day we > > > > > > > leave, " > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > said. " It's a memo to our friends, too, telling them > we > > > > plan > > > > > to > > > > > > > walk > > > > > > > > > away and leave them on their own, regardless of what > we > > > > leave > > > > > > > > behind. " > > > > > > > > > (Watch Sen. John McCain assess Iraq's future Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The $124 billion appropriation comes on top of $70 > > billion > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > approved for this year and would drive the price tag > > for the > > > > > > > > > now-unpopular war past the half-trillion-dollar mark. > > The > > > > > > Pentagon > > > > > > > > > says it would have to start diverting funds from > other > > > > > programs > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > Iraq unless it passes by mid-April. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The spending bill passed the House of Representatives > > with > > > > an > > > > > > > August > > > > > > > > > 2008 deadline last week. But Bush has vowed to veto > any > > > > bill > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > contains a call for a U.S. withdrawal or what he > > considers > > > > > > > > extraneous > > > > > > > > > pork-barrel spending, and dismissed the House measure > > > > > > > as " political > > > > > > > > > theater. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated that > > threat > > > > > > > Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Regardless of the success our troops are achieving > in > > the > > > > > > field, > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > bill would require their withdrawal, " she said. " This > > and > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > provisions would place freedom and democracy in Iraq > at > > > > grave > > > > > > > risk, > > > > > > > > > embolden our enemies and undercut the > administration's > > > > plans > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > develop the Iraqi economy. " (Watch the top U.S. > > commander > > > > > > outline > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > concerns Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earlier this month, the Senate's Democratic majority > > fell > > > > > short > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > another attempt to impose a timeline for withdrawal. > > > > > > Republicans > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > used the threat of a filibuster to kill previous > > statements > > > > of > > > > > > > > > opposition to the war. But McConnell said the GOP > would > > not > > > > > use > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > tactic, which requires 60 votes to overcome, in this > > case > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > " it's important to get the money to the troops. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said the call > > for a > > > > > > > pullout > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > a step toward bringing " the worst foreign policy > > mistake of > > > > > our > > > > > > > > time " > > > > > > > > > to an end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Now it's time for us to make it clear to the Iraqis > it > > is > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > country. It is their war. It is their future, " he > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate vote went down to the wire, with the White > > House > > > > > > > hustling > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill to break a > > > > > possible > > > > > > > tie. > > > > > > > > > Earlier, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid > > > > acknowledged, " We > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > know how it's going to turn out. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and > > Gordon > > > > > > Smith > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Oregon -- joined 48 Democrats to turn back the GOP- > > backed > > > > > > > amendment. > > > > > > > > > (Watch Hagel question claims of progress in Iraq > Video) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people are demanding that we develop a > > > > > bipartisan > > > > > > > > > consensus for an honorable and responsible exit > > strategy > > > > from > > > > > > > Iraq, " > > > > > > > > > said Hagel, a possible Republican presidential > > > > candidate. " If > > > > > we > > > > > > > > fail > > > > > > > > > to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit > strategy, > > > > > America > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > pay a high price for this blunder, one that we will > > have > > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > recovering from in the years ahead. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Democrat, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, joined > > Connecticut > > > > > > > independent > > > > > > > > > Joe Lieberman to vote with the Republican leadership. > > And > > > > > > Virginia > > > > > > > > > Sen. John Warner, a leading GOP opponent of Bush's > plan > > to > > > > > send > > > > > > > > 30,000 > > > > > > > > > more troops to Iraq, rejoined the Republican fold on > > > > > Tuesday's > > > > > > > vote, > > > > > > > > > warning that calling for withdrawal would sound " the > > bugle > > > > of > > > > > > > > retreat. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It would be echoed and repeated from every minaret > in > > Iraq > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > coalition forces have begun to take the first step > > > > > backwards, " > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > Warner, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services > > > > > > > > Committee. " We > > > > > > > > > cannot take that step -- not at this time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear David and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, David. The number of problems facing the > > US > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > clearly above normal levels these days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also another story indicating problems, this time > for > > the > > > > > > > > military. It > > > > > > > > > > occurs at a time when transit L10 Mars in H7 is > > opposite > > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > L8 > > > > > > > > > > Saturn in H1 in the SAMVA USA chart: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Pentagon investigation will recommend nine > > officers, > > > > > > including > > > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > > > four generals, be held accountable for missteps in > > the > > > > > > aftermath > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > the friendly fire death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, > > AP > > > > > reports > > > > > > > > citing > > > > > > > > > > senior defense officials. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " > > <david@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear thor... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here is another one, too.... david hawthorne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------- > -- > > ---- > > > > -- > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Deputy Interior > Secretary > > J. > > > > > > Steven > > > > > > > > Griles > > > > > > > > > > pleaded guilty Friday to obstruction of justice in > a > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > > committee's investigation, becoming the highest- > > ranking > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > > administration official convicted in the Jack > > Abramoff > > > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > > scandal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The former No. 2 official in the Interior > > Department > > > > > > admitted > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > federal court that he lied to the Senate about his > > > > > > relationship > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > convicted lobbyist Abramoff, who repeatedly sought > > Griles' > > > > > > > > > > intervention at the agency on behalf of Abramoff's > > Indian > > > > > > tribal > > > > > > > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Griles pleaded guilty to a felony charge for > > testifying > > > > > > > falsely > > > > > > > > > > before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee on > > November 2, > > > > > > 2005, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > during an earlier deposition with the panel's > > > > investigators > > > > > on > > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > > 20, 2005. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I am sorry for my wrongdoing. I fully accept the > > > > > > > > responsibility for > > > > > > > > > > my conduct and the consequences it may have, " > Griles > > said > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > > statement. " When a Senate committee asks questions, > > they > > > > > must > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > answered fully and completely, and it is not my > place > > to > > > > > > decide > > > > > > > > > > whether those questions are relevant or too > personal. > > I > > > > > > > apologize > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > my family, my friends, the committee and its staff. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > cosmologer > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 23, 2007 12:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Problems for the US > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Given the stationary transit affliction of > natal > > Sun > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > SAMVA USA > > > > > > > > > > > chart, there is a seeming endless stream of > > obstacles > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > thrown in > > > > > > > > > > > the way of President Bush. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Developing story on CNN.com: > > > > > > > > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to > > require > > > > > > > > President > > > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > > > to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by fall > > 2008, > > > > > > despite > > > > > > > > a White > > > > > > > > > > > House veto threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > House OKs Timetable for Troops in Iraq > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 23 11:54 AM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > > > By ANNE FLAHERTY > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A sharply divided House voted > > > > Friday > > > > > to > > > > > > > > order > > > > > > > > > > > President Bush to bring combat troops home from > > Iraq > > > > > next > > > > > > > > year, a > > > > > > > > > > > victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers > > struggle > > > > and > > > > > > > > Congress' > > > > > > > > > > > boldest challenge yet to the administration's > > policy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers > > voted > > > > 218- > > > > > > 212, > > > > > > > > mostly > > > > > > > > > > > along party lines, for a war spending bill > > requiring > > > > > that > > > > > > > > combat > > > > > > > > > > > operations cease before September 2008, or > > earlier if > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > > > > > government does not meet certain requirements. > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > it was > > > > > > > > > > > time to heed the mandate of their election > sweep > > last > > > > > > > > November, > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > gave them control of Congress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The American people have lost faith in the > > > > president's > > > > > > > > conduct of > > > > > > > > > > > this war, " said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D- > > > > > Calif. " The > > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > > > people see the reality of the war, the > president > > does > > > > > > not. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > > > > > By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush > > warned > > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday to > > > > > > > > > > > > accept his offer to have top aides testify > > about the > > > > > > > > firings of > > > > > > > > > > > > federal prosecutors only privately and not > > under > > > > oath > > > > > or > > > > > > > > risk a > > > > > > > > > > > > constitutional showdown from which he would > not > > > > back > > > > > > down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats' response to his proposal was swift > > and > > > > > firm: > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > > said they > > > > > > > > > > > > would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as > > > > > Wednesday > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > > > > > House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Testimony should be on the record and under > > oath. > > > > > > That's > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > formula > > > > > > > > > > > > for true accountability, " said Patrick Leahy, > > > > > chairman > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Senate > > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the > > White > > > > > House, > > > > > > > > said, > > > > > > > > > > " We will > > > > > > > > > > > > not go along with a partisan fishing > expedition > > > > aimed > > > > > at > > > > > > > > honorable > > > > > > > > > > > > public servants. ... I have proposed a > > reasonable > > > > way > > > > > to > > > > > > > > avoid an > > > > > > > > > > > > impasse. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He added that federal prosecutors work for > him > > and > > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > natural to > > > > > > > > > > > > consider replacing them. " There is no > > indication > > > > that > > > > > > > > anybody did > > > > > > > > > > > > anything improper, " the president said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush gave his embattled attorney general, > > Alberto > > > > > > > Gonzales, > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > boost > > > > > > > > > > > > during an early morning call and ended the > day > > with > > > > a > > > > > > > public > > > > > > > > > > statement > > > > > > > > > > > > repeating it. " He's got support with me, " > Bush > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip > Gonzales > > of > > > > his > > > > > > > > authority to > > > > > > > > > > > > fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate > > > > > > confirmation. > > > > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > > > > > contend the Justice Department and White > House > > > > purged > > > > > > > eight > > > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > > > > > prosecutors, some of whom were leading > > political > > > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > > > > > > investigations, after a change in the Patriot > > Act > > > > gave > > > > > > > > > Gonzales the > > > > > > > > > > > > new authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several Democrats, including presidential > > hopefuls > > > > > > Hillary > > > > > > > > Rodham > > > > > > > > > > > > Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John > > Edwards, > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > called for > > > > > > > > > > > > Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a > > handful > > > > of > > > > > > > > Republican > > > > > > > > > > > > lawmakers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " What happened in this case sends a signal > > really > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > intimidation > > > > > > > > > > > > by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any > longer,' " > > said > > > > > Sen. > > > > > > > > Sheldon > > > > > > > > > > > > Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney > who > > > > spent > > > > > > much > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > > > > evening paging through 3,000 documents > released > > by > > > > the > > > > > > > > Justice > > > > > > > > > > > Department. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said his White House counsel, Fred > > Fielding, > > > > told > > > > > > > > lawmakers > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > could interview presidential counselor Karl > > Rove, > > > > > former > > > > > > > > White > > > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > > > Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies-but > > only > > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > president's > > > > > > > > > > > > terms: in private, " without the need for an > > oath " > > > > and > > > > > > > > without a > > > > > > > > > > > > transcript. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The president cast the offer as virtually > > > > > unprecedented > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable way for Congress to get all the > > > > > information > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > needs > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the Democrats truly do want to move > forward > > and > > > > > find > > > > > > > > the right > > > > > > > > > > > > information, they ought to accept what I > > proposed, " > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > said. " If > > > > > > > > > > > > scoring political points is the desire, then > > the > > > > > > rejection > > > > > > > > of this > > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable proposal will really be evident > for > > the > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > > people to > > > > > > > > > > > > see. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said he would aggressively fight in > court > > any > > > > > > attempt > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > subpoena > > > > > > > > > > > > White House aides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " If the staff of a president operated in > > constant > > > > > fear > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > hauled > > > > > > > > > > > > before various committees to discuss internal > > > > > > > > deliberations, the > > > > > > > > > > > > president would not receive candid advice and > > the > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > would be ill-served, " he said. " I'm sorry the > > > > > situation > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > gotten to > > > > > > > > > > > > where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., > > for > > > > you. > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > > > > > a lot of politics in this town. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate > > probe > > > > > > into > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > firings, > > > > > > > > > > > > spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the > > White > > > > > > House: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It's sort of giving us the opportunity to > talk > > to > > > > > them, > > > > > > > > but not > > > > > > > > > > > > giving us the opportunity to get to the > bottom > > of > > > > what > > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > > > > > here. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even without oaths, Bush aides would be > legally > > > > > > required > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > tell the > > > > > > > > > > > > truth to Congress. But without a transcript > of > > their > > > > > > > > comments, " it > > > > > > > > > > > > would be almost meaningless to say that they > > would > > > > be > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > kind > > > > > > > > > > > > of legal sanction, " Schumer complained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few > > hours > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > > spoke > > > > > > > > > > > > with Gonzales in an early morning phone call- > > their > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > conversation > > > > > > > > > > > > since the president had acknowledged mistakes > > by his > > > > > > > > longtime > > > > > > > > > friend > > > > > > > > > > > > and lawmakers of both parties had called for > > > > Gonzales' > > > > > > > > ouster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The White House offered to arrange interviews > > with > > > > > Rove, > > > > > > > > Miers, > > > > > > > > > > deputy > > > > > > > > > > > > White House counsel William Kelley and J. > Scott > > > > > > Jennings, > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > deputy to > > > > > > > > > > > > White House political director Sara Taylor, > who > > > > works > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > Rove. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Such interviews would be private and > conducted > > > > > without > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > need for > > > > > > > > > > > > an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or > > the > > > > > > > subsequent > > > > > > > > > issuance > > > > > > > > > > > > of subpoenas, " Fielding said in a letter to > the > > > > > Senate > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary committees and their ranking > > Republicans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He said documents released by the Justice > > > > > > Department " do > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > reflect > > > > > > > > > > > > that any U.S. attorney was replaced to > > interfere > > > > with > > > > > a > > > > > > > > pending or > > > > > > > > > > > > future criminal investigation or for any > other > > > > > improper > > > > > > > > reason. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven > > contributed > > > > to > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > repo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems for the US Presidency continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Vice President Dick Cheney had another > > health > > > > > > > incident > > > > > > > > > today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. President Bush is under pressure because > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > scandal > > > > > > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Attorney General's office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - He called the besieged Attorney General > > this > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > confirm his > > > > > > > > > > > > > support for him, when most are calling for > > him to > > > > > > resign > > > > > > > > or be > > > > > > > > > > > removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary > > Committee > > > > > has > > > > > > > > insisted > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karl Rove, the Chief Counsel to the > > President, > > > > > testify > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > oath > > > > > > > > > > > > > before the committee about his role in the > > > > firings > > > > > of > > > > > > > > eight US > > > > > > > > > > > > > attorneys. The White House earlier offered > to > > > > have > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > interviewed but > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Senate Committee turned the offer down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These long standing problems for the US > > > > Presidency > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > consistent with > > > > > > > > > > > > > the transit affliction involving the natal > L2 > > Sun > > > > > and > > > > > > > H2, > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > well as > > > > > > > > > > > > > H10, and this week also involving transit > L2 > > Sun > > > > and > > > > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > > > L10 Mars, > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney goes to hospital after discomfort in > > leg > > > > > with > > > > > > > clot > > > > > > > > > > > > > POSTED: 3:30 p.m. EDT, March 20, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney returns to hospital for > treatment > > after > > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > > in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > > with blood clot > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Ultrasound reveals no complications > with > > clot > > > > > > > > discovered in > > > > > > > > > > > February > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Vice president returns to work after > > treatment > > > > > > > > > > > > > â?¢ Cheney has a history of heart-related > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick > Cheney > > > > went > > > > > to > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > Washington University Hospital Tuesday > > morning > > > > after > > > > > > > > > experiencing > > > > > > > > > > > > > discomfort in his left lower leg, where a > > blood > > > > > clot > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > discovered a > > > > > > > > > > > > > few weeks ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After consulting with his doctors, Cheney > was > > > > asked > > > > > to > > > > > > > > return > > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > hospital for repeat ultrasound imaging of > the > > > > deep > > > > > > > venous > > > > > > > > > > thrombosis, > > > > > > > > > > > > > or clot, in that leg, said spokeswoman > Megan > > > > McGinn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ultrasound revealed no extension or > > > > > complication > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > clot, " > > > > > > > > > > > > > she said. " His blood thinning medication > was > > > > found > > > > > to > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > therapeutic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > These results are expected and reassuring, > > and > > > > the > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > course of > > > > > > > > > > > > > treatment will continue. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney returned to the White House to > resume > > his > > > > > > normal > > > > > > > > > > schedule, she > > > > > > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just over two weeks ago, doctors discovered > a > > > > blood > > > > > > clot > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the vice > > > > > > > > > > > > > president's leg. They said at the time that > > he > > > > > likely > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > have to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication for > > > > several > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spokeswoman Lee Anne McBride said at the > time > > > > that > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > 66-year-old had > > > > > > > > > > > > > visited his doctor's office on March 5 > after > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > minor > > > > > > > > > > discomfort > > > > > > > > > > > > > in his calf. An ultrasound showed the blood > > clot - > > > > - > > > > > > > > called a > > > > > > > > > deep > > > > > > > > > > > > > venous thrombosis -- in his left lower leg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots that form deep in the legs can > > become > > > > > > > killers > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > break off and float into the lungs. This is > > > > called a > > > > > > > > pulmonary > > > > > > > > > > > > > embolism. Deep vein thrombosis strikes an > > > > estimated > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > million > > > > > > > > > > > > > Americans each year, killing 60,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people who suffer DVT do so after > > spending > > > > long > > > > > > > > periods > > > > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > > > > > moving, such as passengers on long-haul > > airline > > > > > > flights. > > > > > > > > > > Cheney had > > > > > > > > > > > > > just spent about 65 hours on a plane on a > > nine- > > > > day, > > > > > > > > > > round-the-world > > > > > > > > > > > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney has had had a host of heart-related > > > > problems > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He had six hours of surgery on his legs in > > 2005 > > > > to > > > > > > > repair > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > kind of > > > > > > > > > > > > > aneurysm, a ballooning weak spot in an > artery > > > > that > > > > > can > > > > > > > > burst > > > > > > > > > > if left > > > > > > > > > > > > > untreated. He has had four heart attacks, > > > > quadruple > > > > > > > bypass > > > > > > > > > > surgery, > > > > > > > > > > > > > two artery-clearing angioplasties and an > > > > operation > > > > > to > > > > > > > > implant a > > > > > > > > > > > > > special pacemaker in his chest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the health problem of the > > Vice > > > > > > > > President, the > > > > > > > > > > > perjury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > verdict against his top aid and the > > resignation > > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Secretary of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Defense, there are two other major > problems > > > > > facing > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at this time. The Democrats have > instigated > > > > > > > > congressional > > > > > > > > > > > hearings on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the firings of eight US Attorneys who > claim > > > > they > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > fired for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > political reasons. Then there is the > threat > > by > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > > military > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leaders to resign if Bush attacks Iran. > As > > that > > > > > > were > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > enough, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the background to these more recent > > > > developments > > > > > is > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > ongoing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > war in Iraq, with mounting military and > > civilian > > > > > > > > > casulaties. The > > > > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that such major problems are facing the > US > > > > > > Presidency > > > > > > > > all at > > > > > > > > > > > once are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indicated by the severe transit > afflictions > > > > > > involving > > > > > > > > both the > > > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and transit Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > SAMVA , " cosmologer " > > > > > > > <cosmologer@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, it was announced that Vice > > > > President > > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > > had been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, > > after > > > > > > > returning > > > > > > > > > from a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grueling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trip around the globe. This health > > setback > > > > > raises > > > > > > > > > > questions about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability to keep up with his demanding > job > > but > > > > > > also > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > fitness to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > become President of the USA if > President > > Bush > > > > > for > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > reason is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unable to continue in Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As that were not enough, a top aide to > > Vice > > > > > > > President > > > > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > > > Cheney > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > today been found guilty in a political > > > > scandal. > > > > > > Many > > > > > > > > see the > > > > > > > > > > > aide as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having become a " fall guy " to protect > the > > Vice > > > > > > > > President. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such adverse developments are > consistent > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > transit and > > > > > > > > > > > natal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dynamics concerning the Sun in the > SAMVA > > USA > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dick Cheney has blood clot in leg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > US Vice-President Dick Cheney has a > blood > > > > clot > > > > > in > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > leg > > > > > > > > > > and is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > treated with blood-thinning medication, > > his > > > > > office > > > > > > > > has said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He experienced discomfort in his lower > > left > > > > leg > > > > > on > > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > had medical tests. He returned to work > > after > > > > the > > > > > > > > > examination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is to be treated with blood-thinning > > > > > > medication > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Cheney, 66, has a history of cardiac > > > > > problems. > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > suffered > > > > > > > > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heart attacks and has a pacemaker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DICK CHENEY'S HEALTH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Four heart attacks between 1978 and 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fitted for pacemaker to regulate > > heartbeat in > > > > > 2001 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Operation to remove blood clots in 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blood clots - or deep vein thrombosis > > (DVT) - > > > > > are > > > > > > > > often > > > > > > > > > > associated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with long-distance flying because of > the > > > > > reduced > > > > > > air > > > > > > > > > > pressure and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oxygen levels, and the long periods of > > > > > inactivity > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > dehydration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which can occur on planes. Clots > > themselves > > > > are > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > life-threatening > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but can be dangerous if they become > > wedged in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lungs or > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > organs, which can in severe cases be > > fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Former Cheney aide found guilty in CIA > > leak > > > > case > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue Mar 6, 2007 1:24pm ET15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By Andy Sullivan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lewis " Scooter " > > Libby, > > > > a > > > > > > > > former top > > > > > > > > > > aide to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney, was > convicted > > on > > > > > > Tuesday > > > > > > > > of four > > > > > > > > > > > counts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > obstructing justice, lying and perjury > > during > > > > an > > > > > > > > > investigation > > > > > > > > > > > tied > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Iraq war. Libby, whose attorneys > > promptly > > > > > > said > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > seek a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trial, was acquitted on one count of > > lying to > > > > > the > > > > > > > FBI > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the probe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounding who leaked the identity of > a > > CIA > > > > > > analyst > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > 2003. He > > > > > > > > > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a maximum of 25 years in prison. > Defense > > > > > attorney > > > > > > > > Theodore > > > > > > > > > > Wells > > > > > > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if Libby was denied a new trial, he > would > > > > > appeal > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > conviction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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