Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Dear friends, Many years ago, when reading the natal chart of then Presidential candidate George W Bush, commented that the placement of L1 Moon in H3 in its sign of exaltation and with L3 Mercury on H1 MEP, Bush would be an excellent communicator. At that time, few astrologers were seeing any positive features in his chart. Most considered him stupid or politically wrong headed and certainly unfit for this high office. At that time, was a rare voice indeed, also when predicting he would win the elections in 2000 and then he repeated the correct prediction in 2004. If you read the following news story and just focus on the quotes attributed to President Bush, you will quickly realise why he is so effective as a communicator. He is simple and to the point. Everybody understands what he means. It is very effective communication, even if there is a wide range of views on the matters at hand. Best wishes, Thor Bush Vows to Hold Democrats Responsible on Iraq Troop Pullout By Roger Runningen March 28 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush attacked the Senate's $122 billion Iraq war spending bill that insists on a timetable for troop withdrawal and promised he'll hold Democrats responsible. ``The clock is ticking for our troops in the field,'' Bush will say in a speech this morning, according to excerpts released by the White House. ``If Congress fails to pass a bill to fund our troops on he front lines, the American people will know who to hold responsible.'' Money for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan begins running out in mid-April. The president's rhetoric reflects an escalation in the confrontation between the administration and the Democratic- controlled Congress over lawmakers' attempts to set a deadline for withdrawal of troops. The Senate voted 50-48 yesterday to pull out most of the 141,000 U.S. forces from Iraq by March 31, 2008, and attached it to a $122 billion war-funding measure. The House passed a $124 billion package last week, setting a deadline of September 2008. ``The bottom line is this: the House and Senate bills have too much pork, too many conditions on our commanders, and an artificial timetable for withdrawal,'' Bush will say, according to the excerpts. ``As I have made clear for weeks, if either version comes to my desk, I will veto it.'' Congressional Votes The Senate may pass the final bill today or tomorrow, and both house of Congress must strike a compromise agreement before sending a single version to Bush. The vote in both chambers indicates Democrats don't have enough support of override the veto. ``Members of Congress need to stop making political statements,'' said Bush. Lawmakers need to ``start providing vital funds for our troops,'' he said, and ``get a bill to my desk that I can sign into law.'' A majority of Americans say they support legislation setting a deadline for withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq by next year, according to a Pew Research Center poll. Fifty-nine percent of those polled said they want their congressional representative to vote for a bill that calls for a withdrawal by August 2008. Thirty-three percent opposed such legislation. The poll of 1,503 people was conducted March 21-25. Swift action is needed, because the Senate is scheduled to take a week long Easter recess beginning at the end of this week. The House is scheduled for a two-week recess, returning April 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Dear Thor, He's said some pretty stupid things by any measure. That cannot be denied. The CONTEXT here, is comparison to other US Presidents. Whether his inner voice is brilliant or not, the PERCEPTION by the world stage, is that the expressions of this thoughts are left wanting, be it by overload or whatever mechanism. The weakness of LO2 and close influence of Ra on H3, Ju and Mo are the reasons. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:35 AM Bush: an effective communicator Dear friends, Many years ago, when reading the natal chart of then Presidential candidate George W Bush, commented that the placement of L1 Moon in H3 in its sign of exaltation and with L3 Mercury on H1 MEP, Bush would be an excellent communicator. At that time, few astrologers were seeing any positive features in his chart. Most considered him stupid or politically wrong headed and certainly unfit for this high office. At that time, was a rare voice indeed, also when predicting he would win the elections in 2000 and then he repeated the correct prediction in 2004. If you read the following news story and just focus on the quotes attributed to President Bush, you will quickly realise why he is so effective as a communicator. He is simple and to the point. Everybody understands what he means. It is very effective communication, even if there is a wide range of views on the matters at hand. Best wishes, Thor Bush Vows to Hold Democrats Responsible on Iraq Troop Pullout By Roger Runningen March 28 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush attacked the Senate's $122 billion Iraq war spending bill that insists on a timetable for troop withdrawal and promised he'll hold Democrats responsible. ``The clock is ticking for our troops in the field,'' Bush will say in a speech this morning, according to excerpts released by the White House. ``If Congress fails to pass a bill to fund our troops on he front lines, the American people will know who to hold responsible.'' Money for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan begins running out in mid-April. The president's rhetoric reflects an escalation in the confrontation between the administration and the Democratic- controlled Congress over lawmakers' attempts to set a deadline for withdrawal of troops. The Senate voted 50-48 yesterday to pull out most of the 141,000 U.S. forces from Iraq by March 31, 2008, and attached it to a $122 billion war-funding measure. The House passed a $124 billion package last week, setting a deadline of September 2008. ``The bottom line is this: the House and Senate bills have too much pork, too many conditions on our commanders, and an artificial timetable for withdrawal,'' Bush will say, according to the excerpts. ``As I have made clear for weeks, if either version comes to my desk, I will veto it.'' Congressional Votes The Senate may pass the final bill today or tomorrow, and both house of Congress must strike a compromise agreement before sending a single version to Bush. The vote in both chambers indicates Democrats don't have enough support of override the veto. ``Members of Congress need to stop making political statements,'' said Bush. Lawmakers need to ``start providing vital funds for our troops,'' he said, and ``get a bill to my desk that I can sign into law.'' A majority of Americans say they support legislation setting a deadline for withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq by next year, according to a Pew Research Center poll. Fifty-nine percent of those polled said they want their congressional representative to vote for a bill that calls for a withdrawal by August 2008. Thirty-three percent opposed such legislation. The poll of 1,503 people was conducted March 21-25. Swift action is needed, because the Senate is scheduled to take a week long Easter recess beginning at the end of this week. The House is scheduled for a two-week recess, returning April 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Dear Thor, That said, are we using the same natal data? 7:26am 25:42 Cn 6/7/1946 New Haven? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> <SAMVA > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:10 AM Re: Bush: an effective communicator Dear Thor, He's said some pretty stupid things by any measure. That cannot be denied. The CONTEXT here, is comparison to other US Presidents. Whether his inner voice is brilliant or not, the PERCEPTION by the world stage, is that the expressions of this thoughts are left wanting, be it by overload or whatever mechanism. The weakness of LO2 and close influence of Ra on H3, Ju and Mo are the reasons. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:35 AM Bush: an effective communicator Dear friends, Many years ago, when reading the natal chart of then Presidential candidate George W Bush, commented that the placement of L1 Moon in H3 in its sign of exaltation and with L3 Mercury on H1 MEP, Bush would be an excellent communicator. At that time, few astrologers were seeing any positive features in his chart. Most considered him stupid or politically wrong headed and certainly unfit for this high office. At that time, was a rare voice indeed, also when predicting he would win the elections in 2000 and then he repeated the correct prediction in 2004. If you read the following news story and just focus on the quotes attributed to President Bush, you will quickly realise why he is so effective as a communicator. He is simple and to the point. Everybody understands what he means. It is very effective communication, even if there is a wide range of views on the matters at hand. Best wishes, Thor Bush Vows to Hold Democrats Responsible on Iraq Troop Pullout By Roger Runningen March 28 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush attacked the Senate's $122 billion Iraq war spending bill that insists on a timetable for troop withdrawal and promised he'll hold Democrats responsible. ``The clock is ticking for our troops in the field,'' Bush will say in a speech this morning, according to excerpts released by the White House. ``If Congress fails to pass a bill to fund our troops on he front lines, the American people will know who to hold responsible.'' Money for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan begins running out in mid-April. The president's rhetoric reflects an escalation in the confrontation between the administration and the Democratic- controlled Congress over lawmakers' attempts to set a deadline for withdrawal of troops. The Senate voted 50-48 yesterday to pull out most of the 141,000 U.S. forces from Iraq by March 31, 2008, and attached it to a $122 billion war-funding measure. The House passed a $124 billion package last week, setting a deadline of September 2008. ``The bottom line is this: the House and Senate bills have too much pork, too many conditions on our commanders, and an artificial timetable for withdrawal,'' Bush will say, according to the excerpts. ``As I have made clear for weeks, if either version comes to my desk, I will veto it.'' Congressional Votes The Senate may pass the final bill today or tomorrow, and both house of Congress must strike a compromise agreement before sending a single version to Bush. The vote in both chambers indicates Democrats don't have enough support of override the veto. ``Members of Congress need to stop making political statements,'' said Bush. Lawmakers need to ``start providing vital funds for our troops,'' he said, and ``get a bill to my desk that I can sign into law.'' A majority of Americans say they support legislation setting a deadline for withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq by next year, according to a Pew Research Center poll. Fifty-nine percent of those polled said they want their congressional representative to vote for a bill that calls for a withdrawal by August 2008. Thirty-three percent opposed such legislation. The poll of 1,503 people was conducted March 21-25. Swift action is needed, because the Senate is scheduled to take a week long Easter recess beginning at the end of this week. The House is scheduled for a two-week recess, returning April 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Never mind, I've got the TZ wrong on the JT file someone sent me. 14:00 Cn Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> <SAMVA > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:19 AM Re: Bush: an effective communicator Dear Thor, That said, are we using the same natal data? 7:26am 25:42 Cn 6/7/1946 New Haven? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> <SAMVA > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:10 AM Re: Bush: an effective communicator Dear Thor, He's said some pretty stupid things by any measure. That cannot be denied. The CONTEXT here, is comparison to other US Presidents. Whether his inner voice is brilliant or not, the PERCEPTION by the world stage, is that the expressions of this thoughts are left wanting, be it by overload or whatever mechanism. The weakness of LO2 and close influence of Ra on H3, Ju and Mo are the reasons. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:35 AM Bush: an effective communicator Dear friends, Many years ago, when reading the natal chart of then Presidential candidate George W Bush, commented that the placement of L1 Moon in H3 in its sign of exaltation and with L3 Mercury on H1 MEP, Bush would be an excellent communicator. At that time, few astrologers were seeing any positive features in his chart. Most considered him stupid or politically wrong headed and certainly unfit for this high office. At that time, was a rare voice indeed, also when predicting he would win the elections in 2000 and then he repeated the correct prediction in 2004. If you read the following news story and just focus on the quotes attributed to President Bush, you will quickly realise why he is so effective as a communicator. He is simple and to the point. Everybody understands what he means. It is very effective communication, even if there is a wide range of views on the matters at hand. Best wishes, Thor Bush Vows to Hold Democrats Responsible on Iraq Troop Pullout By Roger Runningen March 28 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush attacked the Senate's $122 billion Iraq war spending bill that insists on a timetable for troop withdrawal and promised he'll hold Democrats responsible. ``The clock is ticking for our troops in the field,'' Bush will say in a speech this morning, according to excerpts released by the White House. ``If Congress fails to pass a bill to fund our troops on he front lines, the American people will know who to hold responsible.'' Money for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan begins running out in mid-April. The president's rhetoric reflects an escalation in the confrontation between the administration and the Democratic- controlled Congress over lawmakers' attempts to set a deadline for withdrawal of troops. The Senate voted 50-48 yesterday to pull out most of the 141,000 U.S. forces from Iraq by March 31, 2008, and attached it to a $122 billion war-funding measure. The House passed a $124 billion package last week, setting a deadline of September 2008. ``The bottom line is this: the House and Senate bills have too much pork, too many conditions on our commanders, and an artificial timetable for withdrawal,'' Bush will say, according to the excerpts. ``As I have made clear for weeks, if either version comes to my desk, I will veto it.'' Congressional Votes The Senate may pass the final bill today or tomorrow, and both house of Congress must strike a compromise agreement before sending a single version to Bush. The vote in both chambers indicates Democrats don't have enough support of override the veto. ``Members of Congress need to stop making political statements,'' said Bush. Lawmakers need to ``start providing vital funds for our troops,'' he said, and ``get a bill to my desk that I can sign into law.'' A majority of Americans say they support legislation setting a deadline for withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq by next year, according to a Pew Research Center poll. Fifty-nine percent of those polled said they want their congressional representative to vote for a bill that calls for a withdrawal by August 2008. Thirty-three percent opposed such legislation. The poll of 1,503 people was conducted March 21-25. Swift action is needed, because the Senate is scheduled to take a week long Easter recess beginning at the end of this week. The House is scheduled for a two-week recess, returning April 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Dear Vyas, It is true his political opponents have tried to make use of some gaffes he has uttered on a podium or in front of the news cameras. However, he is also human and has had to comment on a wide variety of issues, often on the spur of the moment, with little preparation or when he has been tired. That is just human. While it is true he may not be quite the machine mouth that Clinton is and was, folks are rarely left wondering what he means. With Clinton, people sometimes had to have a high IQ and two advanced univeristy degrees to understand what he was talking about. That is not necessarily the sign of an effective communicator. This quality of Bush, to be an effective communicator, is to my mind at least, beyond doubt. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Dear Thor, > > He's said some pretty stupid things by any measure. That cannot be denied. > The CONTEXT here, is comparison to other US Presidents. Whether his inner > voice is brilliant or not, the PERCEPTION by the world stage, is that the > expressions of this thoughts are left wanting, be it by overload or whatever > mechanism. > > The weakness of LO2 and close influence of Ra on H3, Ju and Mo are the > reasons. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " cosmologer " <cosmologer > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:35 AM > Bush: an effective communicator > > > Dear friends, > > Many years ago, when reading the natal chart of then Presidential > candidate George W Bush, commented that the > placement of L1 Moon in H3 in its sign of exaltation and with L3 > Mercury on H1 MEP, Bush would be an excellent communicator. At that > time, few astrologers were seeing any positive features in his chart. > Most considered him stupid or politically wrong headed and certainly > unfit for this high office. At that time, was a > rare voice indeed, also when predicting he would win the elections in > 2000 and then he repeated the correct prediction in 2004. > > If you read the following news story and just focus on the quotes > attributed to President Bush, you will quickly realise why he is so > effective as a communicator. He is simple and to the point. Everybody > understands what he means. It is very effective communication, even > if there is a wide range of views on the matters at hand. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Bush Vows to Hold Democrats Responsible on Iraq Troop Pullout > By Roger Runningen > > March 28 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush attacked the > Senate's $122 billion Iraq war spending bill that insists on a > timetable for troop withdrawal and promised he'll hold Democrats > responsible. > > ``The clock is ticking for our troops in the field,'' Bush will say > in a speech this morning, according to excerpts released by the White > House. ``If Congress fails to pass a bill to fund our troops on he > front lines, the American people will know who to hold responsible.'' > > Money for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan begins > running out in mid-April. > > The president's rhetoric reflects an escalation in the confrontation > between the administration and the Democratic- controlled Congress > over lawmakers' attempts to set a deadline for withdrawal of troops. > The Senate voted 50-48 yesterday to pull out most of the 141,000 U.S. > forces from Iraq by March 31, 2008, and attached it to a $122 billion > war-funding measure. The House passed a $124 billion package last > week, setting a deadline of September 2008. > > ``The bottom line is this: the House and Senate bills have too much > pork, too many conditions on our commanders, and an artificial > timetable for withdrawal,'' Bush will say, according to the excerpts. > ``As I have made clear for weeks, if either version comes to my desk, > I will veto it.'' > > Congressional Votes > > The Senate may pass the final bill today or tomorrow, and both house > of Congress must strike a compromise agreement before sending a > single version to Bush. The vote in both chambers indicates Democrats > don't have enough support of override the veto. > > ``Members of Congress need to stop making political statements,'' > said Bush. Lawmakers need to ``start providing vital funds for our > troops,'' he said, and ``get a bill to my desk that I can sign into > law.'' > > A majority of Americans say they support legislation setting a > deadline for withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq by next year, > according to a Pew Research Center poll. > > Fifty-nine percent of those polled said they want their congressional > representative to vote for a bill that calls for a withdrawal by > August 2008. Thirty-three percent opposed such legislation. The poll > of 1,503 people was conducted March 21-25. > > Swift action is needed, because the Senate is scheduled to take a > week long Easter recess beginning at the end of this week. The House > is scheduled for a two-week recess, returning April 16. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Dear Vyas, I have 6:26 AM and 14° 00' Cancer rising. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Dear Thor, > > That said, are we using the same natal data? 7:26am 25:42 Cn 6/7/1946 New > Haven? > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " Vyas Munidas " <muni> > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:10 AM > Re: Bush: an effective communicator > > > Dear Thor, > > He's said some pretty stupid things by any measure. That cannot be denied. > The CONTEXT here, is comparison to other US Presidents. Whether his inner > voice is brilliant or not, the PERCEPTION by the world stage, is that the > expressions of this thoughts are left wanting, be it by overload or whatever > mechanism. > > The weakness of LO2 and close influence of Ra on H3, Ju and Mo are the > reasons. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " cosmologer " <cosmologer > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:35 AM > Bush: an effective communicator > > > Dear friends, > > Many years ago, when reading the natal chart of then Presidential > candidate George W Bush, commented that the > placement of L1 Moon in H3 in its sign of exaltation and with L3 > Mercury on H1 MEP, Bush would be an excellent communicator. At that > time, few astrologers were seeing any positive features in his chart. > Most considered him stupid or politically wrong headed and certainly > unfit for this high office. At that time, was a > rare voice indeed, also when predicting he would win the elections in > 2000 and then he repeated the correct prediction in 2004. > > If you read the following news story and just focus on the quotes > attributed to President Bush, you will quickly realise why he is so > effective as a communicator. He is simple and to the point. Everybody > understands what he means. It is very effective communication, even > if there is a wide range of views on the matters at hand. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Bush Vows to Hold Democrats Responsible on Iraq Troop Pullout > By Roger Runningen > > March 28 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush attacked the > Senate's $122 billion Iraq war spending bill that insists on a > timetable for troop withdrawal and promised he'll hold Democrats > responsible. > > ``The clock is ticking for our troops in the field,'' Bush will say > in a speech this morning, according to excerpts released by the White > House. ``If Congress fails to pass a bill to fund our troops on he > front lines, the American people will know who to hold responsible.'' > > Money for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan begins > running out in mid-April. > > The president's rhetoric reflects an escalation in the confrontation > between the administration and the Democratic- controlled Congress > over lawmakers' attempts to set a deadline for withdrawal of troops. > The Senate voted 50-48 yesterday to pull out most of the 141,000 U.S. > forces from Iraq by March 31, 2008, and attached it to a $122 billion > war-funding measure. The House passed a $124 billion package last > week, setting a deadline of September 2008. > > ``The bottom line is this: the House and Senate bills have too much > pork, too many conditions on our commanders, and an artificial > timetable for withdrawal,'' Bush will say, according to the excerpts. > ``As I have made clear for weeks, if either version comes to my desk, > I will veto it.'' > > Congressional Votes > > The Senate may pass the final bill today or tomorrow, and both house > of Congress must strike a compromise agreement before sending a > single version to Bush. The vote in both chambers indicates Democrats > don't have enough support of override the veto. > > ``Members of Congress need to stop making political statements,'' > said Bush. Lawmakers need to ``start providing vital funds for our > troops,'' he said, and ``get a bill to my desk that I can sign into > law.'' > > A majority of Americans say they support legislation setting a > deadline for withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq by next year, > according to a Pew Research Center poll. > > Fifty-nine percent of those polled said they want their congressional > representative to vote for a bill that calls for a withdrawal by > August 2008. Thirty-three percent opposed such legislation. The poll > of 1,503 people was conducted March 21-25. > > Swift action is needed, because the Senate is scheduled to take a > week long Easter recess beginning at the end of this week. The House > is scheduled for a two-week recess, returning April 16. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Dear Thor, It's not just his political opponents - there are millions of webpages that contain his quotes (google: bush quotes; there are +4 million results). So this is a mass perception issue as well. While people may understand what he means, we should also note that a caveman can make a very good point by clubbing his opponent over the head and roaring. 'Back off,' point taken, no doctorate required. The credit here is that despite his lack of verbal savvy, it still works. While the 14 degree Cn is fantastic with Me on H1 MEP, we must account for the discussed afflictions which take precedence. It's helpful that they are not exact. (You mentioned that the Mo is in its sign of ex; it's in Vi) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:23 AM Re: Bush: an effective communicator Dear Vyas, It is true his political opponents have tried to make use of some gaffes he has uttered on a podium or in front of the news cameras. However, he is also human and has had to comment on a wide variety of issues, often on the spur of the moment, with little preparation or when he has been tired. That is just human. While it is true he may not be quite the machine mouth that Clinton is and was, folks are rarely left wondering what he means. With Clinton, people sometimes had to have a high IQ and two advanced univeristy degrees to understand what he was talking about. That is not necessarily the sign of an effective communicator. This quality of Bush, to be an effective communicator, is to my mind at least, beyond doubt. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Dear Thor, > > He's said some pretty stupid things by any measure. That cannot be denied. > The CONTEXT here, is comparison to other US Presidents. Whether his inner > voice is brilliant or not, the PERCEPTION by the world stage, is that the > expressions of this thoughts are left wanting, be it by overload or whatever > mechanism. > > The weakness of LO2 and close influence of Ra on H3, Ju and Mo are the > reasons. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " cosmologer " <cosmologer > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:35 AM > Bush: an effective communicator > > > Dear friends, > > Many years ago, when reading the natal chart of then Presidential > candidate George W Bush, commented that the > placement of L1 Moon in H3 in its sign of exaltation and with L3 > Mercury on H1 MEP, Bush would be an excellent communicator. At that > time, few astrologers were seeing any positive features in his chart. > Most considered him stupid or politically wrong headed and certainly > unfit for this high office. At that time, was a > rare voice indeed, also when predicting he would win the elections in > 2000 and then he repeated the correct prediction in 2004. > > If you read the following news story and just focus on the quotes > attributed to President Bush, you will quickly realise why he is so > effective as a communicator. He is simple and to the point. Everybody > understands what he means. It is very effective communication, even > if there is a wide range of views on the matters at hand. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Bush Vows to Hold Democrats Responsible on Iraq Troop Pullout > By Roger Runningen > > March 28 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush attacked the > Senate's $122 billion Iraq war spending bill that insists on a > timetable for troop withdrawal and promised he'll hold Democrats > responsible. > > ``The clock is ticking for our troops in the field,'' Bush will say > in a speech this morning, according to excerpts released by the White > House. ``If Congress fails to pass a bill to fund our troops on he > front lines, the American people will know who to hold responsible.'' > > Money for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan begins > running out in mid-April. > > The president's rhetoric reflects an escalation in the confrontation > between the administration and the Democratic- controlled Congress > over lawmakers' attempts to set a deadline for withdrawal of troops. > The Senate voted 50-48 yesterday to pull out most of the 141,000 U.S. > forces from Iraq by March 31, 2008, and attached it to a $122 billion > war-funding measure. The House passed a $124 billion package last > week, setting a deadline of September 2008. > > ``The bottom line is this: the House and Senate bills have too much > pork, too many conditions on our commanders, and an artificial > timetable for withdrawal,'' Bush will say, according to the excerpts. > ``As I have made clear for weeks, if either version comes to my desk, > I will veto it.'' > > Congressional Votes > > The Senate may pass the final bill today or tomorrow, and both house > of Congress must strike a compromise agreement before sending a > single version to Bush. The vote in both chambers indicates Democrats > don't have enough support of override the veto. > > ``Members of Congress need to stop making political statements,'' > said Bush. Lawmakers need to ``start providing vital funds for our > troops,'' he said, and ``get a bill to my desk that I can sign into > law.'' > > A majority of Americans say they support legislation setting a > deadline for withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq by next year, > according to a Pew Research Center poll. > > Fifty-nine percent of those polled said they want their congressional > representative to vote for a bill that calls for a withdrawal by > August 2008. Thirty-three percent opposed such legislation. The poll > of 1,503 people was conducted March 21-25. > > Swift action is needed, because the Senate is scheduled to take a > week long Easter recess beginning at the end of this week. The House > is scheduled for a two-week recess, returning April 16. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Dear Vyas, Indeed, I have seen these web pages. I was referring to what they show, not how much distribution they have received. It may also be true that Bush's popularity has suffered becasue of the controversy of his positions and the vehemence of his opponents, who have tried to make him look stupid through such gaffes. When all is said and done, history will take a measure of the man based on his contribution, and not what the political opponents said in the heat of the moment. As for the placement of the Moon, I was speaking about his chart from memory and erred on the sign containing Moon. In any event, the exhange of Moon and Mercury, with Mercury strong, is quite helpul. Perhaps would like to comment on the chart interpretation. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Dear Thor, > > It's not just his political opponents - there are millions of webpages that > contain his quotes (google: bush quotes; there are +4 million results). So > this is a mass perception issue as well. While people may understand what he > means, we should also note that a caveman can make a very good point by > clubbing his opponent over the head and roaring. 'Back off,' point taken, no > doctorate required. > > The credit here is that despite his lack of verbal savvy, it still works. > > While the 14 degree Cn is fantastic with Me on H1 MEP, we must account for > the discussed afflictions which take precedence. It's helpful that they are > not exact. > > (You mentioned that the Mo is in its sign of ex; it's in Vi) > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " cosmologer " <cosmologer > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:23 AM > Re: Bush: an effective communicator > > > Dear Vyas, > > It is true his political opponents have tried to make use of some > gaffes he has uttered on a podium or in front of the news cameras. > However, he is also human and has had to comment on a wide variety of > issues, often on the spur of the moment, with little preparation or > when he has been tired. That is just human. While it is true he may > not be quite the machine mouth that Clinton is and was, folks are > rarely left wondering what he means. With Clinton, people sometimes > had to have a high IQ and two advanced univeristy degrees to > understand what he was talking about. That is not necessarily the > sign of an effective communicator. This quality of Bush, to be an > effective communicator, is to my mind at least, beyond doubt. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <munidas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Thor, > > > > He's said some pretty stupid things by any measure. That cannot be > denied. > > The CONTEXT here, is comparison to other US Presidents. Whether his > inner > > voice is brilliant or not, the PERCEPTION by the world stage, is > that the > > expressions of this thoughts are left wanting, be it by overload or > whatever > > mechanism. > > > > The weakness of LO2 and close influence of Ra on H3, Ju and Mo are > the > > reasons. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > <SAMVA > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:35 AM > > Bush: an effective communicator > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Many years ago, when reading the natal chart of then Presidential > > candidate George W Bush, commented that the > > placement of L1 Moon in H3 in its sign of exaltation and with L3 > > Mercury on H1 MEP, Bush would be an excellent communicator. At that > > time, few astrologers were seeing any positive features in his > chart. > > Most considered him stupid or politically wrong headed and certainly > > unfit for this high office. At that time, was a > > rare voice indeed, also when predicting he would win the elections > in > > 2000 and then he repeated the correct prediction in 2004. > > > > If you read the following news story and just focus on the quotes > > attributed to President Bush, you will quickly realise why he is so > > effective as a communicator. He is simple and to the point. > Everybody > > understands what he means. It is very effective communication, even > > if there is a wide range of views on the matters at hand. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > Bush Vows to Hold Democrats Responsible on Iraq Troop Pullout > > By Roger Runningen > > > > March 28 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush attacked the > > Senate's $122 billion Iraq war spending bill that insists on a > > timetable for troop withdrawal and promised he'll hold Democrats > > responsible. > > > > ``The clock is ticking for our troops in the field,'' Bush will say > > in a speech this morning, according to excerpts released by the > White > > House. ``If Congress fails to pass a bill to fund our troops on he > > front lines, the American people will know who to hold > responsible.'' > > > > Money for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan begins > > running out in mid-April. > > > > The president's rhetoric reflects an escalation in the confrontation > > between the administration and the Democratic- controlled Congress > > over lawmakers' attempts to set a deadline for withdrawal of troops. > > The Senate voted 50-48 yesterday to pull out most of the 141,000 > U.S. > > forces from Iraq by March 31, 2008, and attached it to a $122 > billion > > war-funding measure. The House passed a $124 billion package last > > week, setting a deadline of September 2008. > > > > ``The bottom line is this: the House and Senate bills have too much > > pork, too many conditions on our commanders, and an artificial > > timetable for withdrawal,'' Bush will say, according to the > excerpts. > > ``As I have made clear for weeks, if either version comes to my > desk, > > I will veto it.'' > > > > Congressional Votes > > > > The Senate may pass the final bill today or tomorrow, and both house > > of Congress must strike a compromise agreement before sending a > > single version to Bush. The vote in both chambers indicates > Democrats > > don't have enough support of override the veto. > > > > ``Members of Congress need to stop making political statements,'' > > said Bush. Lawmakers need to ``start providing vital funds for our > > troops,'' he said, and ``get a bill to my desk that I can sign into > > law.'' > > > > A majority of Americans say they support legislation setting a > > deadline for withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq by next year, > > according to a Pew Research Center poll. > > > > Fifty-nine percent of those polled said they want their > congressional > > representative to vote for a bill that calls for a withdrawal by > > August 2008. Thirty-three percent opposed such legislation. The poll > > of 1,503 people was conducted March 21-25. > > > > Swift action is needed, because the Senate is scheduled to take a > > week long Easter recess beginning at the end of this week. The House > > is scheduled for a two-week recess, returning April 16. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Dear Thor, We can agree that with weak LO2, he may not be the best speaker, but with strong LO3 and Mo in H3, it makes him an effective communicator, regardless. Additionally, the 14 Cn chart is good, but as far as I recall, it's one that's up for monitoring and not at the 100% mark yet? There may be room too swing it a couple degrees that Me is close and not exact on the MEP1. Please correct me if I am wrong. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:50 AM Re: Bush: an effective communicator Dear Vyas, Indeed, I have seen these web pages. I was referring to what they show, not how much distribution they have received. It may also be true that Bush's popularity has suffered becasue of the controversy of his positions and the vehemence of his opponents, who have tried to make him look stupid through such gaffes. When all is said and done, history will take a measure of the man based on his contribution, and not what the political opponents said in the heat of the moment. As for the placement of the Moon, I was speaking about his chart from memory and erred on the sign containing Moon. In any event, the exhange of Moon and Mercury, with Mercury strong, is quite helpul. Perhaps would like to comment on the chart interpretation. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Dear Thor, > > It's not just his political opponents - there are millions of webpages that > contain his quotes (google: bush quotes; there are +4 million results). So > this is a mass perception issue as well. While people may understand what he > means, we should also note that a caveman can make a very good point by > clubbing his opponent over the head and roaring. 'Back off,' point taken, no > doctorate required. > > The credit here is that despite his lack of verbal savvy, it still works. > > While the 14 degree Cn is fantastic with Me on H1 MEP, we must account for > the discussed afflictions which take precedence. It's helpful that they are > not exact. > > (You mentioned that the Mo is in its sign of ex; it's in Vi) > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " cosmologer " <cosmologer > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:23 AM > Re: Bush: an effective communicator > > > Dear Vyas, > > It is true his political opponents have tried to make use of some > gaffes he has uttered on a podium or in front of the news cameras. > However, he is also human and has had to comment on a wide variety of > issues, often on the spur of the moment, with little preparation or > when he has been tired. That is just human. While it is true he may > not be quite the machine mouth that Clinton is and was, folks are > rarely left wondering what he means. With Clinton, people sometimes > had to have a high IQ and two advanced univeristy degrees to > understand what he was talking about. That is not necessarily the > sign of an effective communicator. This quality of Bush, to be an > effective communicator, is to my mind at least, beyond doubt. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <munidas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Thor, > > > > He's said some pretty stupid things by any measure. That cannot be > denied. > > The CONTEXT here, is comparison to other US Presidents. Whether his > inner > > voice is brilliant or not, the PERCEPTION by the world stage, is > that the > > expressions of this thoughts are left wanting, be it by overload or > whatever > > mechanism. > > > > The weakness of LO2 and close influence of Ra on H3, Ju and Mo are > the > > reasons. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > > <SAMVA > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:35 AM > > Bush: an effective communicator > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Many years ago, when reading the natal chart of then Presidential > > candidate George W Bush, commented that the > > placement of L1 Moon in H3 in its sign of exaltation and with L3 > > Mercury on H1 MEP, Bush would be an excellent communicator. At that > > time, few astrologers were seeing any positive features in his > chart. > > Most considered him stupid or politically wrong headed and certainly > > unfit for this high office. At that time, was a > > rare voice indeed, also when predicting he would win the elections > in > > 2000 and then he repeated the correct prediction in 2004. > > > > If you read the following news story and just focus on the quotes > > attributed to President Bush, you will quickly realise why he is so > > effective as a communicator. He is simple and to the point. > Everybody > > understands what he means. It is very effective communication, even > > if there is a wide range of views on the matters at hand. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > Bush Vows to Hold Democrats Responsible on Iraq Troop Pullout > > By Roger Runningen > > > > March 28 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush attacked the > > Senate's $122 billion Iraq war spending bill that insists on a > > timetable for troop withdrawal and promised he'll hold Democrats > > responsible. > > > > ``The clock is ticking for our troops in the field,'' Bush will say > > in a speech this morning, according to excerpts released by the > White > > House. ``If Congress fails to pass a bill to fund our troops on he > > front lines, the American people will know who to hold > responsible.'' > > > > Money for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan begins > > running out in mid-April. > > > > The president's rhetoric reflects an escalation in the confrontation > > between the administration and the Democratic- controlled Congress > > over lawmakers' attempts to set a deadline for withdrawal of troops. > > The Senate voted 50-48 yesterday to pull out most of the 141,000 > U.S. > > forces from Iraq by March 31, 2008, and attached it to a $122 > billion > > war-funding measure. The House passed a $124 billion package last > > week, setting a deadline of September 2008. > > > > ``The bottom line is this: the House and Senate bills have too much > > pork, too many conditions on our commanders, and an artificial > > timetable for withdrawal,'' Bush will say, according to the > excerpts. > > ``As I have made clear for weeks, if either version comes to my > desk, > > I will veto it.'' > > > > Congressional Votes > > > > The Senate may pass the final bill today or tomorrow, and both house > > of Congress must strike a compromise agreement before sending a > > single version to Bush. The vote in both chambers indicates > Democrats > > don't have enough support of override the veto. > > > > ``Members of Congress need to stop making political statements,'' > > said Bush. Lawmakers need to ``start providing vital funds for our > > troops,'' he said, and ``get a bill to my desk that I can sign into > > law.'' > > > > A majority of Americans say they support legislation setting a > > deadline for withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq by next year, > > according to a Pew Research Center poll. > > > > Fifty-nine percent of those polled said they want their > congressional > > representative to vote for a bill that calls for a withdrawal by > > August 2008. Thirty-three percent opposed such legislation. The poll > > of 1,503 people was conducted March 21-25. > > > > Swift action is needed, because the Senate is scheduled to take a > > week long Easter recess beginning at the end of this week. The House > > is scheduled for a two-week recess, returning April 16. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Hello my dear Thor and Vyas, In view of the operating transit afflictions we have to wait for these to clear before a true assessment of the communication capabilities of Mr. Bush can be appreciated. Currently the notable afflictions are (i) transit Rahu afflicting his natal 2L; and (ii) transit Jupiter is afflicting transit Saturn and natal Venus. Best wishes. - " cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:20 PM Re: Bush: an effective communicator | Dear Vyas, | | Indeed, I have seen these web pages. I was referring to what they | show, not how much distribution they have received. It may also be | true that Bush's popularity has suffered becasue of the controversy | of his positions and the vehemence of his opponents, who have tried | to make him look stupid through such gaffes. When all is said and | done, history will take a measure of the man based on his | contribution, and not what the political opponents said in the heat | of the moment. | | As for the placement of the Moon, I was speaking about his chart from | memory and erred on the sign containing Moon. In any event, the | exhange of Moon and Mercury, with Mercury strong, is quite helpul. | | Perhaps would like to comment on the chart | interpretation. | | Best wishes, | | Thor | | | | | | SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: | > | > Dear Thor, | > | > It's not just his political opponents - there are millions of | webpages that | > contain his quotes (google: bush quotes; there are +4 million | results). So | > this is a mass perception issue as well. While people may | understand what he | > means, we should also note that a caveman can make a very good | point by | > clubbing his opponent over the head and roaring. 'Back off,' point | taken, no | > doctorate required. | > | > The credit here is that despite his lack of verbal savvy, it still | works. | > | > While the 14 degree Cn is fantastic with Me on H1 MEP, we must | account for | > the discussed afflictions which take precedence. It's helpful that | they are | > not exact. | > | > (You mentioned that the Mo is in its sign of ex; it's in Vi) | > | > | > Best regards, | > | > Vyas Munidas | > | > | > - | > " cosmologer " <cosmologer | > <SAMVA > | > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:23 AM | > Re: Bush: an effective communicator | > | > | > Dear Vyas, | > | > It is true his political opponents have tried to make use of some | > gaffes he has uttered on a podium or in front of the news cameras. | > However, he is also human and has had to comment on a wide variety | of | > issues, often on the spur of the moment, with little preparation or | > when he has been tired. That is just human. While it is true he may | > not be quite the machine mouth that Clinton is and was, folks are | > rarely left wondering what he means. With Clinton, people sometimes | > had to have a high IQ and two advanced univeristy degrees to | > understand what he was talking about. That is not necessarily the | > sign of an effective communicator. This quality of Bush, to be an | > effective communicator, is to my mind at least, beyond doubt. | > | > Best wishes, | > | > Thor | > | > SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <munidas@> wrote: | > > | > > Dear Thor, | > > | > > He's said some pretty stupid things by any measure. That cannot be | > denied. | > > The CONTEXT here, is comparison to other US Presidents. Whether | his | > inner | > > voice is brilliant or not, the PERCEPTION by the world stage, is | > that the | > > expressions of this thoughts are left wanting, be it by overload | or | > whatever | > > mechanism. | > > | > > The weakness of LO2 and close influence of Ra on H3, Ju and Mo are | > the | > > reasons. | > > | > > | > > Best regards, | > > | > > Vyas Munidas | > > | > > | > > - | > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> | > > <SAMVA > | > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:35 AM | > > Bush: an effective communicator | > > | > > | > > Dear friends, | > > | > > Many years ago, when reading the natal chart of then Presidential | > > candidate George W Bush, commented that the | > > placement of L1 Moon in H3 in its sign of exaltation and with L3 | > > Mercury on H1 MEP, Bush would be an excellent communicator. At | that | > > time, few astrologers were seeing any positive features in his | > chart. | > > Most considered him stupid or politically wrong headed and | certainly | > > unfit for this high office. At that time, was a | > > rare voice indeed, also when predicting he would win the elections | > in | > > 2000 and then he repeated the correct prediction in 2004. | > > | > > If you read the following news story and just focus on the quotes | > > attributed to President Bush, you will quickly realise why he is | so | > > effective as a communicator. He is simple and to the point. | > Everybody | > > understands what he means. It is very effective communication, | even | > > if there is a wide range of views on the matters at hand. | > > | > > Best wishes, | > > | > > Thor | > > | > > Bush Vows to Hold Democrats Responsible on Iraq Troop Pullout | > > By Roger Runningen | > > | > > March 28 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush attacked the | > > Senate's $122 billion Iraq war spending bill that insists on a | > > timetable for troop withdrawal and promised he'll hold Democrats | > > responsible. | > > | > > ``The clock is ticking for our troops in the field,'' Bush will | say | > > in a speech this morning, according to excerpts released by the | > White | > > House. ``If Congress fails to pass a bill to fund our troops on he | > > front lines, the American people will know who to hold | > responsible.'' | > > | > > Money for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan begins | > > running out in mid-April. | > > | > > The president's rhetoric reflects an escalation in the | confrontation | > > between the administration and the Democratic- controlled Congress | > > over lawmakers' attempts to set a deadline for withdrawal of | troops. | > > The Senate voted 50-48 yesterday to pull out most of the 141,000 | > U.S. | > > forces from Iraq by March 31, 2008, and attached it to a $122 | > billion | > > war-funding measure. The House passed a $124 billion package last | > > week, setting a deadline of September 2008. | > > | > > ``The bottom line is this: the House and Senate bills have too | much | > > pork, too many conditions on our commanders, and an artificial | > > timetable for withdrawal,'' Bush will say, according to the | > excerpts. | > > ``As I have made clear for weeks, if either version comes to my | > desk, | > > I will veto it.'' | > > | > > Congressional Votes | > > | > > The Senate may pass the final bill today or tomorrow, and both | house | > > of Congress must strike a compromise agreement before sending a | > > single version to Bush. The vote in both chambers indicates | > Democrats | > > don't have enough support of override the veto. | > > | > > ``Members of Congress need to stop making political statements,'' | > > said Bush. Lawmakers need to ``start providing vital funds for our | > > troops,'' he said, and ``get a bill to my desk that I can sign | into | > > law.'' | > > | > > A majority of Americans say they support legislation setting a | > > deadline for withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq by next year, | > > according to a Pew Research Center poll. | > > | > > Fifty-nine percent of those polled said they want their | > congressional | > > representative to vote for a bill that calls for a withdrawal by | > > August 2008. Thirty-three percent opposed such legislation. The | poll | > > of 1,503 people was conducted March 21-25. | > > | > > Swift action is needed, because the Senate is scheduled to take a | > > week long Easter recess beginning at the end of this week. The | House | > > is scheduled for a two-week recess, returning April 16. | > > | > | | | | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Dear , Thank you for the additional perspective on assessing the chart of President Bush, relating to the transits impacting in the chart. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , <siha wrote: > > > Hello my dear Thor and Vyas, > > In view of the operating transit afflictions we have to wait for these to > clear before a true assessment of the communication capabilities of Mr. Bush > can be appreciated. Currently the notable afflictions are (i) transit Rahu > afflicting his natal 2L; and (ii) transit Jupiter is afflicting transit > Saturn and natal Venus. > Best wishes. > > > > > > - > " cosmologer " <cosmologer > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:20 PM > Re: Bush: an effective communicator > > > | Dear Vyas, > | > | Indeed, I have seen these web pages. I was referring to what they > | show, not how much distribution they have received. It may also be > | true that Bush's popularity has suffered becasue of the controversy > | of his positions and the vehemence of his opponents, who have tried > | to make him look stupid through such gaffes. When all is said and > | done, history will take a measure of the man based on his > | contribution, and not what the political opponents said in the heat > | of the moment. > | > | As for the placement of the Moon, I was speaking about his chart from > | memory and erred on the sign containing Moon. In any event, the > | exhange of Moon and Mercury, with Mercury strong, is quite helpul. > | > | Perhaps would like to comment on the chart > | interpretation. > | > | Best wishes, > | > | Thor > | > | > | > | > | > | SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <munidas@> wrote: > | > > | > Dear Thor, > | > > | > It's not just his political opponents - there are millions of > | webpages that > | > contain his quotes (google: bush quotes; there are +4 million > | results). So > | > this is a mass perception issue as well. While people may > | understand what he > | > means, we should also note that a caveman can make a very good > | point by > | > clubbing his opponent over the head and roaring. 'Back off,' point > | taken, no > | > doctorate required. > | > > | > The credit here is that despite his lack of verbal savvy, it still > | works. > | > > | > While the 14 degree Cn is fantastic with Me on H1 MEP, we must > | account for > | > the discussed afflictions which take precedence. It's helpful that > | they are > | > not exact. > | > > | > (You mentioned that the Mo is in its sign of ex; it's in Vi) > | > > | > > | > Best regards, > | > > | > Vyas Munidas > | > > | > > | > - > | > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > | > <SAMVA > > | > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:23 AM > | > Re: Bush: an effective communicator > | > > | > > | > Dear Vyas, > | > > | > It is true his political opponents have tried to make use of some > | > gaffes he has uttered on a podium or in front of the news cameras. > | > However, he is also human and has had to comment on a wide variety > | of > | > issues, often on the spur of the moment, with little preparation or > | > when he has been tired. That is just human. While it is true he may > | > not be quite the machine mouth that Clinton is and was, folks are > | > rarely left wondering what he means. With Clinton, people sometimes > | > had to have a high IQ and two advanced univeristy degrees to > | > understand what he was talking about. That is not necessarily the > | > sign of an effective communicator. This quality of Bush, to be an > | > effective communicator, is to my mind at least, beyond doubt. > | > > | > Best wishes, > | > > | > Thor > | > > | > SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <munidas@> wrote: > | > > > | > > Dear Thor, > | > > > | > > He's said some pretty stupid things by any measure. That cannot be > | > denied. > | > > The CONTEXT here, is comparison to other US Presidents. Whether > | his > | > inner > | > > voice is brilliant or not, the PERCEPTION by the world stage, is > | > that the > | > > expressions of this thoughts are left wanting, be it by overload > | or > | > whatever > | > > mechanism. > | > > > | > > The weakness of LO2 and close influence of Ra on H3, Ju and Mo are > | > the > | > > reasons. > | > > > | > > > | > > Best regards, > | > > > | > > Vyas Munidas > | > > > | > > > | > > - > | > > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > | > > <SAMVA > > | > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:35 AM > | > > Bush: an effective communicator > | > > > | > > > | > > Dear friends, > | > > > | > > Many years ago, when reading the natal chart of then Presidential > | > > candidate George W Bush, commented that the > | > > placement of L1 Moon in H3 in its sign of exaltation and with L3 > | > > Mercury on H1 MEP, Bush would be an excellent communicator. At > | that > | > > time, few astrologers were seeing any positive features in his > | > chart. > | > > Most considered him stupid or politically wrong headed and > | certainly > | > > unfit for this high office. At that time, was a > | > > rare voice indeed, also when predicting he would win the elections > | > in > | > > 2000 and then he repeated the correct prediction in 2004. > | > > > | > > If you read the following news story and just focus on the quotes > | > > attributed to President Bush, you will quickly realise why he is > | so > | > > effective as a communicator. He is simple and to the point. > | > Everybody > | > > understands what he means. It is very effective communication, > | even > | > > if there is a wide range of views on the matters at hand. > | > > > | > > Best wishes, > | > > > | > > Thor > | > > > | > > Bush Vows to Hold Democrats Responsible on Iraq Troop Pullout > | > > By Roger Runningen > | > > > | > > March 28 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush attacked the > | > > Senate's $122 billion Iraq war spending bill that insists on a > | > > timetable for troop withdrawal and promised he'll hold Democrats > | > > responsible. > | > > > | > > ``The clock is ticking for our troops in the field,'' Bush will > | say > | > > in a speech this morning, according to excerpts released by the > | > White > | > > House. ``If Congress fails to pass a bill to fund our troops on he > | > > front lines, the American people will know who to hold > | > responsible.'' > | > > > | > > Money for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan begins > | > > running out in mid-April. > | > > > | > > The president's rhetoric reflects an escalation in the > | confrontation > | > > between the administration and the Democratic- controlled Congress > | > > over lawmakers' attempts to set a deadline for withdrawal of > | troops. > | > > The Senate voted 50-48 yesterday to pull out most of the 141,000 > | > U.S. > | > > forces from Iraq by March 31, 2008, and attached it to a $122 > | > billion > | > > war-funding measure. The House passed a $124 billion package last > | > > week, setting a deadline of September 2008. > | > > > | > > ``The bottom line is this: the House and Senate bills have too > | much > | > > pork, too many conditions on our commanders, and an artificial > | > > timetable for withdrawal,'' Bush will say, according to the > | > excerpts. > | > > ``As I have made clear for weeks, if either version comes to my > | > desk, > | > > I will veto it.'' > | > > > | > > Congressional Votes > | > > > | > > The Senate may pass the final bill today or tomorrow, and both > | house > | > > of Congress must strike a compromise agreement before sending a > | > > single version to Bush. The vote in both chambers indicates > | > Democrats > | > > don't have enough support of override the veto. > | > > > | > > ``Members of Congress need to stop making political statements,'' > | > > said Bush. Lawmakers need to ``start providing vital funds for our > | > > troops,'' he said, and ``get a bill to my desk that I can sign > | into > | > > law.'' > | > > > | > > A majority of Americans say they support legislation setting a > | > > deadline for withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq by next year, > | > > according to a Pew Research Center poll. > | > > > | > > Fifty-nine percent of those polled said they want their > | > congressional > | > > representative to vote for a bill that calls for a withdrawal by > | > > August 2008. Thirty-three percent opposed such legislation. The > | poll > | > > of 1,503 people was conducted March 21-25. > | > > > | > > Swift action is needed, because the Senate is scheduled to take a > | > > week long Easter recess beginning at the end of this week. The > | House > | > > is scheduled for a two-week recess, returning April 16. > | > > > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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