Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Respected Professor, & list members, Could you please give me some clues on how to analyse the long term(1-5 yrs) stock market and real estate in Indian Scenario? I am intrested in changes over a period of time not day-to-day fluctuations. What all planets, houses and transits to look at? The unprecedented Bull Run started on May 6, 2003 when the Sensex was at 3,001.21 level. Given that in Indian Chart, Mercury sub-period is running since Sept 2005. Now, Mercury has a weak dispositor, Moon and more than that its MT sign MEP is afflicted exactly by 12th lord Mars. Its MT sign MEP is also closely aspected by Rahu. Has this aspect of Rahu activated the significations of the 5th house and given rise to short lived phenomenal results? In that case the Bull Run will end with sub-period of Mercury? How do we factor the results of exact aspect of 12th lord Mars, the lord of losses, expenditure and hospitalizations? What are the significators of real estate and current housing boom in a national chart? Thank you for your patience and kind guidance. Himanshu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Hello Himanshu, I offer no clues on stock markets. Best wishes. - " rainysky_33 " <rainysky_33 <SAMVA > Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:45 PM Economy | Respected Professor, | & list members, | | Could you please give me some clues on how to analyse the long | term(1-5 yrs) stock market and real estate in Indian Scenario? I am | intrested in changes over a period of time not day-to-day | fluctuations. What all planets, houses and transits to look at? | | The unprecedented Bull Run started on May 6, 2003 when the Sensex was | at 3,001.21 level. | Given that in Indian Chart, Mercury sub-period is running since Sept | 2005. Now, Mercury has a weak dispositor, Moon and more than that its | MT sign MEP is afflicted exactly by 12th lord Mars. Its MT sign MEP is | also closely aspected by Rahu. Has this aspect of Rahu activated the | significations of the 5th house and given rise to short lived | phenomenal results? In that case the Bull Run will end with sub-period | of Mercury? | | How do we factor the results of exact aspect of 12th lord Mars, the | lord of losses, expenditure and hospitalizations? | | What are the significators of real estate and current housing boom in | a national chart? | | Thank you for your patience and kind guidance. | Himanshu | | | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Hello my dear , Thanks for the update. Indeed, there was improvement in the output data for the third quarter of 2009 compared to the (previous) second quarter of 2009. After adjusting for seasonal factors, the economy actually grew in the third quarter. The US economy thus appears to have bottomed outon and is on an improving trend. There is one qualifier to this data, as I have discussed on SAMVA earlier. The output level in the USA in 2009 is still below that of last year, also after adjusting for price changes, or in real terms. For 2009 as a whole output is expected to be around 2 percent below the level attained on average in 2008. On an annual basis the economy is thus still worse off than last year. The same holds true for the third quarter of 2009. The output level at that time was also still below the same quarter in 2008. That said, the bottom line appears to be that the economy is now judged to be on a improving trend. Importantly, this is in line with the prediction by you. Thor SAMVA , " " <vkchoudhry wrote: > > Hello my dear Thor, > > A TV report this morning said that economy is growing about 3 to 3.5% in US and the recession is coming to an end. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Hello my dear Thor, I just shared the info I got. - cosmologer SAMVA Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:51 AM Re: Economy Hello my dear ,Thanks for the update. Indeed, there was improvement in the output data for the third quarter of 2009 compared to the (previous) second quarter of 2009. After adjusting for seasonal factors, the economy actually grew in the third quarter. The US economy thus appears to have bottomed outon and is on an improving trend. There is one qualifier to this data, as I have discussed on SAMVA earlier. The output level in the USA in 2009 is still below that of last year, also after adjusting for price changes, or in real terms. For 2009 as a whole output is expected to be around 2 percent below the level attained on average in 2008. On an annual basis the economy is thus still worse off than last year. The same holds true for the third quarter of 2009. The output level at that time was also still below the same quarter in 2008. That said, the bottom line appears to be that the economy is now judged to be on a improving trend. Importantly, this is in line with the prediction by you.ThorSAMVA , "" <vkchoudhry wrote:>> Hello my dear Thor,> > A TV report this morning said that economy is growing about 3 to 3.5% in US and the recession is coming to an end.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Hello my dear , Yes. I was just adding some more insight into the numbers the media is reporting if it could help list members to better assess the situation. There is also anecdotal information about the situation as well. The following news story shows the situation faced by some US households. In 2009, it looks like perhaps 2 percent of US households have been caught in difficulty with their mortgages, with maybe a third of those actually losing their homes in foreclosure proceedings. Such cases tend to be quite difficult as most of the people live in the houses involved. Foreclosures dip 3 pct. in October from September Graphic shows total foreclosure filings for past 13 months AP – 58 mins ago NEW YORK – The number of homeowners on the brink of losing their homes dipped in October, the third straight monthly decline, as foreclosure prevention programs helped more borrowers. But foreclosure filings are still up 19 percent from a year ago, RealtyTrac Inc. said Thursday, and rising job losses continue to threaten the stabilizing trend. More than 332,000 households, or one in every 385 homes, received a foreclosure-related notice in October, such as a notice of default or trustee's sale. That's down 3 percent from September. Banks repossessed more than 77,000 homes last month, down from nearly 88,000 homes in September. http://news./s/ap/20091112/ap_on_bi_ge/us_foreclosure_rates This situation is consistent with the present operation of sub-period of Saturn, the MMP planet in the Cancer rising SAMVA USA chart. Transit Saturn has been aspecting natal Jupiter as 6th lord of financial stability and is now in applying aspect to the stronger natal 10th lord Mars, which is also linked to the real estate market. Moreover, the transit nodes will soon afflict the 4th lord Venus, which is placed in the 6th house. This could be an upsetting time. Later, transit Ketu in the 12th house will aspect the MEP of the 4th house and then while stationary in the summer of 2010 aspect natal Ketu exactly, which is located in the 4th house MEP. Meanwhile transit Rahu will aspect its natal counterpart in the 10th house. Jupiter and Saturn will then be in various aspects. Overall, these aspects would be expected to be associated with difficult situations. Based on this we can expect that more problems lie ahead concerning housing and financial stability issues in the USA, before the aspects become less burdensome in the fall of 2010. Thor <vkchoudhrySAMVA Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 6:25:42 AMRe: Re: Economy Hello my dear Thor, I just shared the info I got. - cosmologer SAMVA Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:51 AM Re: Economy Hello my dear ,Thanks for the update. Indeed, there was improvement in the output data for the third quarter of 2009 compared to the (previous) second quarter of 2009. After adjusting for seasonal factors, the economy actually grew in the third quarter. The US economy thus appears to have bottomed outon and is on an improving trend. There is one qualifier to this data, as I have discussed on SAMVA earlier. The output level in the USA in 2009 is still below that of last year, also after adjusting for price changes, or in real terms. For 2009 as a whole output is expected to be around 2 percent below the level attained on average in 2008. On an annual basis the economy is thus still worse off than last year. The same holds true for the third quarter of 2009. The output level at that time was also still below the same quarter in 2008. That said, the bottom line appears to be that the economy is now judged to be on a improving trend. Importantly, this is in line with the prediction by you.ThorSAMVA , "" <vkchoudhry@ ...> wrote:>> Hello my dear Thor,> > A TV report this morning said that economy is growing about 3 to 3.5% in US and the recession is coming to an end.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Hello my dear Thor, Thanks. The situation is really difficult for the individuals involved. Astrology can help people better if they seek advance consultations before involving themselves in debts. - Cosmologer SAMVA Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:11 PM Re: Re: Economy Hello my dear , Yes. I was just adding some more insight into the numbers the media is reporting if it could help list members to better assess the situation. There is also anecdotal information about the situation as well. The following news story shows the situation faced by some US households. In 2009, it looks like perhaps 2 percent of US households have been caught in difficulty with their mortgages, with maybe a third of those actually losing their homes in foreclosure proceedings. Such cases tend to be quite difficult as most of the people live in the houses involved. Foreclosures dip 3 pct. in October from September Graphic shows total foreclosure filings for past 13 months AP – 58 mins ago NEW YORK – The number of homeowners on the brink of losing their homes dipped in October, the third straight monthly decline, as foreclosure prevention programs helped more borrowers. But foreclosure filings are still up 19 percent from a year ago, RealtyTrac Inc. said Thursday, and rising job losses continue to threaten the stabilizing trend. More than 332,000 households, or one in every 385 homes, received a foreclosure-related notice in October, such as a notice of default or trustee's sale. That's down 3 percent from September. Banks repossessed more than 77,000 homes last month, down from nearly 88,000 homes in September. http://news./s/ap/20091112/ap_on_bi_ge/us_foreclosure_rates This situation is consistent with the present operation of sub-period of Saturn, the MMP planet in the Cancer rising SAMVA USA chart. Transit Saturn has been aspecting natal Jupiter as 6th lord of financial stability and is now in applying aspect to the stronger natal 10th lord Mars, which is also linked to the real estate market. Moreover, the transit nodes will soon afflict the 4th lord Venus, which is placed in the 6th house. This could be an upsetting time. Later, transit Ketu in the 12th house will aspect the MEP of the 4th house and then while stationary in the summer of 2010 aspect natal Ketu exactly, which is located in the 4th house MEP. Meanwhile transit Rahu will aspect its natal counterpart in the 10th house. Jupiter and Saturn will then be in various aspects. Overall, these aspects would be expected to be associated with difficult situations. Based on this we can expect that more problems lie ahead concerning housing and financial stability issues in the USA, before the aspects become less burdensome in the fall of 2010. Thor <vkchoudhry >SAMVA Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 6:25:42 AMRe: Re: Economy Hello my dear Thor, I just shared the info I got. - cosmologer SAMVA Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:51 AM Re: Economy Hello my dear ,Thanks for the update. Indeed, there was improvement in the output data for the third quarter of 2009 compared to the (previous) second quarter of 2009. After adjusting for seasonal factors, the economy actually grew in the third quarter. The US economy thus appears to have bottomed outon and is on an improving trend. There is one qualifier to this data, as I have discussed on SAMVA earlier. The output level in the USA in 2009 is still below that of last year, also after adjusting for price changes, or in real terms. For 2009 as a whole output is expected to be around 2 percent below the level attained on average in 2008. On an annual basis the economy is thus still worse off than last year. The same holds true for the third quarter of 2009. The output level at that time was also still below the same quarter in 2008. That said, the bottom line appears to be that the economy is now judged to be on a improving trend. Importantly, this is in line with the prediction by you.ThorSAMVA , "" <vkchoudhry@ ...> wrote:>> Hello my dear Thor,> > A TV report this morning said that economy is growing about 3 to 3.5% in US and the recession is coming to an end.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 wrote: > Hello my dear Thor, > > A TV report this morning said that economy is growing about 3 to 3.5% in US and the recession is coming to an end. > > Professor, Americans know not to trust mass media. They are known to lie and be wrong. They are owned by huge corporations who want the American public to spend money on their products. To get accurate economic reporting you have to dig deeper. I'm pleased to see that Thor has expanded his sources of economic information. Some of the mass market economic reporters remind me of the PR guy for Saddam Hussein (aka Baghdad Bob) who reported the war was going great to TV reporters while American tanks could be seen rolling in the background. Brian Conrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Hi Brian, To be fair, there is a range of views on this issue. Those left of center tend to be suspicious of the media for the reasons enumerated by you, while those on the right talk about the liberal east coast media, which they find promotes e.g. big government and un-American values. Then there are those who view all things in conspiratorial terms and others, a much bigger group, who do not see things that way. Whatever the outlook or the truth of the matter, that is not by itself the subject of this list. However, if we manage to link such issues to astrological analysis, such as of the SAMVA USA chart, it is cleary of relevance and interest. Thor SAMVA , Brian Conrad <brianjtools wrote: > > wrote: > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > A TV report this morning said that economy is growing about 3 to 3.5% in US and the recession is coming to an end. > > > > > > Professor, Americans know not to trust mass media. They are known to > lie and be wrong. They are owned by huge corporations who want the > American public to spend money on their products. To get accurate > economic reporting you have to dig deeper. I'm pleased to see that Thor > has expanded his sources of economic information. Some of the mass > market economic reporters remind me of the PR guy for Saddam Hussein > (aka Baghdad Bob) who reported the war was going great to TV reporters > while American tanks could be seen rolling in the background. > > > Brian Conrad > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Hello my dear Brian, Yes, you are right. Media should give an objective picture but it rarely does so. That is why I mentioned about TV report as it is and Thor threw further light on this. - Brian Conrad SAMVA Friday, November 13, 2009 2:21 AM Re: Economy wrote:> Hello my dear Thor,> > A TV report this morning said that economy is growing about 3 to 3.5% in US and the recession is coming to an end.> > Professor, Americans know not to trust mass media. They are known to lie and be wrong. They are owned by huge corporations who want the American public to spend money on their products. To get accurate economic reporting you have to dig deeper. I'm pleased to see that Thor has expanded his sources of economic information. Some of the mass market economic reporters remind me of the PR guy for Saddam Hussein (aka Baghdad Bob) who reported the war was going great to TV reporters while American tanks could be seen rolling in the background.Brian Conrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Hello dear list members, Here is an especially interesting and relevant article about the state of the US economy at the present time. A tale of two American economies by Nouriel Roubini Wednesday, Nov. 18, 2009 7:33AM EST "While the United States recently reported 3.5 per cent GDP growth in the third quarter, suggesting that the most severe recession since the Great Depression is over, the American economy is actually much weaker than official data suggest. In fact, official measures of GDP may grossly overstate growth in the economy, as they don't capture the fact that business sentiment among small firms is abysmal and their output is still falling sharply. Properly corrected for this, third-quarter GDP may have been 2 per cent rather than 3.5 per cent. The story of the U.S. is, indeed, one of two economies. There is a smaller one that is slowly recovering and a larger one that is still in a deep and persistent downturn. <snip> So, while the United States may technically be close to the end of a severe recession, most of America is facing a near-depression. Little wonder, then, that few Americans believe that what walks like a duck and quacks like a duck is actually the phoenix of recovery." http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/a-tale-of-two-american-economies/article1366935/ Thor <vkchoudhrySAMVA Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 11:05:32 PMRe: Economy Hello my dear Brian, Yes, you are right. Media should give an objective picture but it rarely does so. That is why I mentioned about TV report as it is and Thor threw further light on this. - Brian Conrad SAMVA Friday, November 13, 2009 2:21 AM Re: Economy wrote:> Hello my dear Thor,> > A TV report this morning said that economy is growing about 3 to 3.5% in US and the recession is coming to an end.> > Professor, Americans know not to trust mass media. They are known to lie and be wrong. They are owned by huge corporations who want the American public to spend money on their products. To get accurate economic reporting you have to dig deeper. I'm pleased to see that Thor has expanded his sources of economic information. Some of the mass market economic reporters remind me of the PR guy for Saddam Hussein (aka Baghdad Bob) who reported the war was going great to TV reporters while American tanks could be seen rolling in the background.Brian Conrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Very good, Thor. I have felt this way for a long time. Lila Hello dear list members, > > Here is an especially interesting and relevant article about the state of > the US economy at the present time. > > A tale of two American economies > by Nouriel Roubini > Wednesday, Nov. 18, 2009 7:33AM EST > " While the United States recently reported 3.5 per cent GDP growth in the > third quarter, suggesting that the most severe recession since the Great > Depression is over, the American economy is actually much weaker than > official data suggest. In fact, official measures of GDP may grossly > overstate growth in the economy, as they don't capture the fact that > business sentiment among small firms is abysmal and their output is still > falling sharply. Properly corrected for this, third-quarter GDP may have > been 2 per cent rather than 3.5 per cent. The story of the U.S. is, > indeed, one of two economies. There is a smaller one that is slowly > recovering and a larger one that is still in a deep and persistent > downturn. > <snip> > So, while the United States may technically be close to the end of a > severe recession, most of America is facing a near-depression. Little > wonder, then, that few Americans believe that what walks like a duck and > quacks like a duck is actually the phoenix of recovery. " > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/a-tale-of-two-american-economies/ar\ ticle1366935/ > > Thor > > > > > ________________________________ > <vkchoudhry > SAMVA > Thu, November 12, 2009 11:05:32 PM > Re: Economy > > > > > > Hello my dear Brian, > > Yes, you are right. Media should give an objective picture but it rarely > does so. That is why I mentioned about TV report as it is and Thor threw > further light on this. > > > > - > Brian Conrad >>SAMVA >>Friday, November 13, 2009 2:21 AM >>Re: Economy >> >> >> wrote: >>> Hello my dear Thor, >>> >>> A TV report this morning said that economy is growing about 3 to 3.5% >>> in US and the recession is coming to an end. >>> >>> >> >>Professor, Americans know not to trust mass media. They are known to >>lie and be wrong. They are owned by huge corporations who want the >>American public to spend money on their products. To get accurate >>economic reporting you have to dig deeper. I'm pleased to see that Thor >>has expanded his sources of economic information. Some of the mass >>market economic reporters remind me of the PR guy for Saddam Hussein >>(aka Baghdad Bob) who reported the war was going great to TV reporters >>while American tanks could be seen rolling in the background. >> >>Brian Conrad >> >> >> >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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