: French presidential election

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Dear Iver,

 

Thanks for the kind words.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , del iver <deliver1900 wrote:

>

> 2nd that !

> congratulations to Jo and Remi.

> and you too Thor !

> cheers again

> -

> " Cosmologer "

> To:

> Sunday, May 06, 2007 9:03 PM

> Re: : Re: Re: French presidential election

>

>

> > Dear Remi and Jo,

> >

> > Hearty congratulations with your correct predictions concerning the

> > outcome of both stages of the French Presidential election.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Thor

> >

> > Remi PANISSET wrote: Hello dear Thor,

> >

> > The birth times we used for casting the charts of Ségolène Royal

(04:10

> > PM) and Nicolas Sarkozy (10:00 PM) are the times mentionned on their

> > respective official birth certificates. In France such times are

public

> > and everybody can consult about them.

> > In the 50's, birth times indicated on birth certificates were

given with a

> > precision of about +/- 20 minutes, depending upon the

circumstances of the

> > birth and upon a medical or non-medical presence at that time.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Rémi

> >

> >

> >

> >> Message du 06/05/07 13:01

> >> De : " Cosmologer "

> >> A : SAMVA

> >> Copie à :

> >> Objet : Re: : Re: Re: French presidential election

> >>

> >> Hello Prem,

> >>

> >> Thank you for the additional information and prediction for the

French

> >> Presidential elections. The additional information is interesting

for the

> >> fact that the horoscopes cast rely on different times than in the

study

> >> by Jo and Remi.

> >>

> >> Nicholas Sarkozy in the study by Jo and Remi has 3° Virgo rising

(10:00

> >> PM), while in this non-Sa study he has 25° Sagittarius rising

(7:35 AM).

> >> Segleone Royale in the former study has 16° Capricorn rising

(4:10 PM),

> >> while in the non-SA study she has 28° Scorpio rising (12:54 PM).

> >>

> >> I believe, Jo has explained they have not adjusted the times

given for

> >> the candidates, whereas the other study uses different times

stating that

> >> the birth times are not known. Hence, they appear to have made

their own

> >> rectification work.

> >>

> >> Clearly, the outcome is likely to be different based on the

ascendants

> >> used, as well as the system of astrology used. So, there is not much

> >> basis for comparison. That said, the outcome of the elections

will be a

> >> guidepost for further work on the chart of the new President of

France.

> >>

> >> Personally, I find a Sagittarius ascendant possible for Sarkozy. The

> >> current Ve/Sa period would be moderately helpful. His natal Sun

and Mars

> >> are strong and well placed, consistent with his personal energy

level and

> >> political ascendancy. The FMs are not natally afflicting in the

chart nor

> >> in transit at the present time. I would think he has a good

chance of

> >> being elected based on the Sagittarius rising chart.

> >>

> >> The Capricorn rising chart for Royale strikes me as being more

likely,

> >> given her classic good looks. The present Ve/Mo period is not so

helpful,

> >> given the weakness of both planets. The chart itself, although

with some

> >> good placements but there are several afflictions present in the

natal

> >> chart which is not good. As a result, I do not find this chart

convincing

> >> of her victory, notably due to the affliction of natal L6 Sun by

natal

> >> Rahu and the affliction of L12 Jupiter in H6 of natal L2 Saturn

in H10,

> >> with also L10 Venus and L4 Mars badly placed in H8 of obstacles and

> >> endings. These afflictions suggest crisis in career or some form of

> >> deception or problem involving father/husband, especially as

Jupiter is

> >> also weak and badly placed. There would likely also be strong forces

> >> working against her. That said Mercury is strong in Virgo on H9 MEP

> >> albeit mildly combust. She has become well known for her books

and views.

> >> The placement of L2 Saturn in H10, with L7 Moon in H2 and

> > Sun

> >> in H9, and L4 Mars in H8 MEP aspecting H2, H11 and H3, has earlier

> >> lifted her to ministerial level.

> >>

> >> Best wishes,

> >>

> >> Thor

> >>

> >>

> >> ski woka wrote: You can read the detailed analysis of another

> >> prediction on the elections here:

> >> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~dymock/instal39.html

> >> Ségolène Royal will become France's first female President.

> >>

> >>

> >>

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> >>

> >>

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> >> [ Nicholas Sarkozy-3 Virgo.gif (49.1 Ko) ]

> >> [ Nicholas Sarkozy-25 Sagittarius.gif (49.2 Ko) ]

> >> [ Ségolène Royal-16 Capricorn.gif (49.1 Ko) ]

> >> [ Ségolène Royal-28 Scorpio.gif (49.3 Ko) ]

> >

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