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Dear friends,There are a few placements in the SAMVA USA chart that warrant attention in coming days. Please see the attached gif file. Tomorrow on May 8:- L3 Mercury enters H11 and enters into opposition aspect with sub-period lord Jupiter as L6. Mercury as lord of the third house is the indicator of both courage and confidence in the chart. It is also the general indicator of commerce. Hence, the influence on the stock market should at long last be felt. - L10 Mars enters H9 and also enters into the aspect of natal Jupiter. Mars is also an indicator of confidence and courage. While both planets are in good houses, the aspect of the sub-period lord would indicate that the conflict that has marked US society for some months now will have an effect to reduce the confidences and spirits of investors - and the more so as this aspect becomes closer towards the end of the week.Another difficult placement involves both natal and transit L2 Sun,

with transit Sun also coming under a close aspect of transit L8 Saturn. The maleficience of Saturn is greater as it is at the same time suffering under a long standing and close aspect of transit L6 Jupiter. This means the Sun's functional indications of wealth, status and close relationships and general indications of the leader of the country will come under increased pressure in the next few days. At the same time, the nodes, while seperating from the exact conjunction with the H8 and H2 MEP, are coming into closer aspect of the natal nodes in H4 and H10. This adds to the overall strain. With transit L4 Venus also in H12, this would undermines the communal harmony.In short, the energy of the sub-period lord, Jupiter, is being felt in many areas and it is also moving closer to the MEP of H5 in coming weeks. Hence, the stock market could feel the impact. The role of mysterious karma is such that it can bring an event that is totally

unexpected and one that creates a shock. This is what I think could happen in the USA this week.I´d be interested in the view of , Vyas Munidas and other list members on this reading. In any event, we will soon see what coming days bring.Best wishes,Thor

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Hello dear Mr. Thor, The transit of Mercury and Mars is fast moving and makes only small difference. The impact of transit Jupiter on transit Saturn continuous to be significant and the time continues to be difficult. Best wishes.

 

 

 

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Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:48 AM

USA; critical days ahead in terms of SAMVA USA chart

Dear friends,There are a few placements in the SAMVA USA chart that warrant attention in coming days. Please see the attached gif file. Tomorrow on May 8:- L3 Mercury enters H11 and enters into opposition aspect with sub-period lord Jupiter as L6. Mercury as lord of the third house is the indicator of both courage and confidence in the chart. It is also the general indicator of commerce. Hence, the influence on the stock market should at long last be felt. - L10 Mars enters H9 and also enters into the aspect of natal Jupiter. Mars is also an indicator of confidence and courage. While both planets are in good houses, the aspect of the sub-period lord would indicate that the conflict that has marked US society for some months now will have an effect to reduce the confidences and spirits of investors - and the more so as this aspect becomes closer towards the end of the week.Another difficult placement involves both natal and transit L2 Sun, with transit Sun also coming under a close aspect of transit L8 Saturn. The maleficience of Saturn is greater as it is at the same time suffering under a long standing and close aspect of transit L6 Jupiter. This means the Sun's functional indications of wealth, status and close relationships and general indications of the leader of the country will come under increased pressure in the next few days. At the same time, the nodes, while seperating from the exact conjunction with the H8 and H2 MEP, are coming into closer aspect of the natal nodes in H4 and H10. This adds to the overall strain. With transit L4 Venus also in H12, this would undermines the communal harmony.In short, the energy of the sub-period lord, Jupiter, is being felt in many areas and it is also moving closer to the MEP of H5 in coming weeks. Hence, the stock market could feel the impact. The role of mysterious karma is such that it can bring an event that is totally unexpected and one that creates a shock. This is what I think could happen in the USA this week.I´d be interested in the view of , Vyas Munidas and other list members on this reading. In any event, we will soon see what coming days bring.Best wishes,Thor

 

 

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Dear ,

 

Thank you for the clarification.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , <siha wrote:

>

>

> Hello dear Mr. Thor,

>

> The transit of Mercury and Mars is fast moving and makes only small

difference. The impact of transit Jupiter on transit Saturn continuous

to be significant and the time continues to be difficult.

>

> Best wishes.

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> Cosmologer

> samva

> Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:48 AM

> USA; critical days ahead in terms of SAMVA USA chart

>

>

> Dear friends,

>

> There are a few placements in the SAMVA USA chart that warrant

attention in coming days. Please see the attached gif file. Tomorrow

on May 8:

>

> - L3 Mercury enters H11 and enters into opposition aspect with

sub-period lord Jupiter as L6. Mercury as lord of the third house is

the indicator of both courage and confidence in the chart. It is also

the general indicator of commerce. Hence, the influence on the stock

market should at long last be felt.

> - L10 Mars enters H9 and also enters into the aspect of natal

Jupiter. Mars is also an indicator of confidence and courage.

>

> While both planets are in good houses, the aspect of the

sub-period lord would indicate that the conflict that has marked US

society for some months now will have an effect to reduce the

confidences and spirits of investors - and the more so as this aspect

becomes closer towards the end of the week.

>

> Another difficult placement involves both natal and transit L2

Sun, with transit Sun also coming under a close aspect of transit L8

Saturn. The maleficience of Saturn is greater as it is at the same

time suffering under a long standing and close aspect of transit L6

Jupiter. This means the Sun's functional indications of wealth, status

and close relationships and general indications of the leader of the

country will come under increased pressure in the next few days.

>

> At the same time, the nodes, while seperating from the exact

conjunction with the H8 and H2 MEP, are coming into closer aspect of

the natal nodes in H4 and H10. This adds to the overall strain. With

transit L4 Venus also in H12, this would undermines the communal harmony.

>

> In short, the energy of the sub-period lord, Jupiter, is being

felt in many areas and it is also moving closer to the MEP of H5 in

coming weeks. Hence, the stock market could feel the impact. The role

of mysterious karma is such that it can bring an event that is totally

unexpected and one that creates a shock. This is what I think could

happen in the USA this week.

>

> I´d be interested in the view of , Vyas Munidas

and other list members on this reading. In any event, we will soon see

what coming days bring.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

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Dear Thor,

 

The Ju-Me opposition will be heaviest over a weekend. It cannot have that

significant impact on the SM, and the MEP of the 5/11Hs will feel the good

aspect of Mercury. In a non-MTH, in the sign of Taurus, this can give a

drive with very stable, technically driven decisions in financial markets.

It should err on the side of further gains.

 

Na Ju- tr Ma aspect: Mars increases in strength by the time this aspect is

exact and is in a good house with no affliction. With the gaze of the LO6 to

the gen significator of courage and the Lord of courage in 11H moving

towards increased strength, this could inflame the courage rather than

reduce it I believe. The full impact is also on a weekend.

 

(I have a question on the above, I'll ask separately to confirm)

 

The focus this week is on tomorrow's rate decision - the statement would be

the key. With the mixed US data seen lately and the dollar at desperate

lows, profit taking and higher volatility will be seen ahead of the

announcement.

 

We can note the significators of courage are in 0 degrees today and profit

taking has led the morning to see the DJIA and GOLD fall, and USD rise.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

-

" Cosmologer " <cosmologer

<samva >

Monday, May 07, 2007 5:18 PM

USA; critical days ahead in terms of SAMVA USA chart

 

 

Dear friends,

 

There are a few placements in the SAMVA USA chart that warrant attention in

coming days. Please see the attached gif file. Tomorrow on May 8:

 

- L3 Mercury enters H11 and enters into opposition aspect with sub-period

lord Jupiter as L6. Mercury as lord of the third house is the indicator of

both courage and confidence in the chart. It is also the general indicator

of commerce. Hence, the influence on the stock market should at long last be

felt.

- L10 Mars enters H9 and also enters into the aspect of natal Jupiter. Mars

is also an indicator of confidence and courage.

 

While both planets are in good houses, the aspect of the sub-period lord

would indicate that the conflict that has marked US society for some months

now will have an effect to reduce the confidences and spirits of investors -

and the more so as this aspect becomes closer towards the end of the week.

 

Another difficult placement involves both natal and transit L2 Sun, with

transit Sun also coming under a close aspect of transit L8 Saturn. The

maleficience of Saturn is greater as it is at the same time suffering under

a long standing and close aspect of transit L6 Jupiter. This means the

Sun's functional indications of wealth, status and close relationships and

general indications of the leader of the country will come under increased

pressure in the next few days.

 

At the same time, the nodes, while seperating from the exact conjunction

with the H8 and H2 MEP, are coming into closer aspect of the natal nodes in

H4 and H10. This adds to the overall strain. With transit L4 Venus also in

H12, this would undermines the communal harmony.

 

In short, the energy of the sub-period lord, Jupiter, is being felt in many

areas and it is also moving closer to the MEP of H5 in coming weeks. Hence,

the stock market could feel the impact. The role of mysterious karma is such

that it can bring an event that is totally unexpected and one that creates a

shock. This is what I think could happen in the USA this week.

 

I´d be interested in the view of , Vyas Munidas and other

list members on this reading. In any event, we will soon see what coming

days bring.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

 

 

 

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U.S. Stocks Tumble Most in 2 Months on Slowing Economy Concern

By Michael Patterson

 

May 10 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. stock market tumbled the most in almost

two months after falling retail sales, higher import prices and a

wider trade deficit heightened concern the economy will slow.

 

Financial shares, led by Citigroup Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co.,

dragged the Standard & Poor's 500 Index from its highest in six years

and the Dow Jones Industrial Average from a record on concern a weaker

economy will curb loan demand. Federated Department Stores Inc., owner

of the Macy's chain, posted its biggest drop in seven months, while

Nordstrom Inc., the Seattle- based chain of 98 department stores, fell

to a month low.

 

The trade gap widened more than analysts forecast in March on higher

oil imports, spurring expectations the government may reduce its

first-quarter gross domestic product estimate. The Commerce Department

report came a day after the Federal Reserve kept its benchmark

interest rate unchanged and said inflation remains a bigger threat

than slower growth.

 

``The Fed's pretty much on hold, and yet the economy is slowing,''

said Edward Hemmelgarn, who oversees about $400 million as president

of Shaker Investments Inc. in Cleveland. ``These are the fears that

are causing people to sell off.''

 

The S & P 500 fell 21.11, or 1.4 percent, to 1491.47, its steepest drop

since March 13. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 147.74, or 1.1

percent, to 13,215.13. The Nasdaq Composite Index decreased 42.60, or

1.7 percent, to 2533.74.

 

SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> There are a few placements in the SAMVA USA chart that warrant

attention in coming days. Please see the attached gif file. Tomorrow

on May 8:

>

> - L3 Mercury enters H11 and enters into opposition aspect with

sub-period lord Jupiter as L6. Mercury as lord of the third house is

the indicator of both courage and confidence in the chart. It is also

the general indicator of commerce. Hence, the influence on the stock

market should at long last be felt.

> - L10 Mars enters H9 and also enters into the aspect of natal

Jupiter. Mars is also an indicator of confidence and courage.

>

> While both planets are in good houses, the aspect of the sub-period

lord would indicate that the conflict that has marked US society for

some months now will have an effect to reduce the confidences and

spirits of investors - and the more so as this aspect becomes closer

towards the end of the week.

>

> Another difficult placement involves both natal and transit L2 Sun,

with transit Sun also coming under a close aspect of transit L8

Saturn. The maleficience of Saturn is greater as it is at the same

time suffering under a long standing and close aspect of transit L6

Jupiter. This means the Sun's functional indications of wealth, status

and close relationships and general indications of the leader of the

country will come under increased pressure in the next few days.

>

> At the same time, the nodes, while seperating from the exact

conjunction with the H8 and H2 MEP, are coming into closer aspect of

the natal nodes in H4 and H10. This adds to the overall strain. With

transit L4 Venus also in H12, this would undermines the communal harmony.

>

> In short, the energy of the sub-period lord, Jupiter, is being felt

in many areas and it is also moving closer to the MEP of H5 in coming

weeks. Hence, the stock market could feel the impact. The role of

mysterious karma is such that it can bring an event that is totally

unexpected and one that creates a shock. This is what I think could

happen in the USA this week.

>

> I�d be interested in the view of , Vyas Munidas

and other list members on this reading. In any event, we will soon see

what coming days bring.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear friends,

 

More bad news for the US economy. First, Walmart, the biggest US

retailer announces their worst slaes ever. Second, former Fed

chairman Alan Greenspan reiterates his view that there is a one-in-

three chance of a recession in the USA this year. He also issues a

warning about share prices in Asia. Yesterday, the US stock market

fell the most in two months, 1.1%-1.5%.This is in line with my

prediction on the basis of the SAMVA USA chart that the economic and

financial developments towards the end of this week would be adverse.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

Wal-Mart posts worst sales ever as US retail figures slump

Friday May 11, 2007, The Guardian, David Teather

 

Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, yesterday posted its worst

monthly sales figures since its records began in 1980.

The company said same store sales fell 3.5% in April on the same

month a year ago. Same store sales measure the performance of stores

that have been open for at least 12 months.

 

But Wal-Mart was not the only US retailer turning in a poor

performance in April, triggering fears that the US housing slump

might be spilling over into consumer spending and that the economy

might be taking a turn for the worse.

 

 

Greenspan Sees a One-Third Chance of U.S. Recession (Update6)

 

By Shamim Adam

 

May 11 (Bloomberg) -- Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan

said he still sees a one-third chance of a recession in the U.S.

economy this year, as consumption eases and the housing market slows.

 

A ``mild recovery'' in the second quarter is not very strong,

according to a recording of Greenspan's comments today to a

conference hosted by Merrill Lynch & Co. in Singapore obtained by

Bloomberg News.

 

``There is no doubt there is a slowdown going on the U.S.,''

Greenspan said via satellite from Washington. ``We are clearly having

troubles in the capital investment area, as well as potentially in

the consumption area and obviously housing being a significant

drag.''

 

The U.S. stock market yesterday tumbled the most in almost two months

after falling retail sales, higher import prices and a wider trade

deficit heightened concern the economy will slow. U.S. policy makers

on May 9 kept the benchmark interest rate at 5.25 percent and said

inflation is the biggest risk facing the economy despite a yearlong

slowdown.

 

In March, Greenspan said there was a ``one-third probability'' of a

recession this year and the current expansion wouldn't have the

staying power of its decade-long predecessor. Greenspan in late

February predicted that U.S. economic growth might stagnate, a view

at odds with those of Ben S. Bernanke, his successor, and other Fed

officials.

 

`Algebraic Implications'

 

``At the moment, I still say as I said before, by algebraic

implications, the odds are 2 to 1 we won't have a recession,''

Greenspan said today.

 

China should allow the yuan, or renminbi, to appreciate a ``lot

faster'' than it has been, Greenspan said. The central bank has

allowed the currency to rise 7.7 percent since China scrapped a

dollar peg in July 2005.

 

China's currency reserves are the world's largest and accumulated in

part through purchases of dollar-denominated U.S. Treasuries done to

temper yuan appreciation. The reserves rose to a record $1.2 trillion

at the end of March.

 

``Unless the intervention into the foreign exchange market comes to a

halt, which is another way of saying that they'll allow the renminbi

to rise, they would find it at some point, extremely difficult to

handle the imbalance problem,'' Greenspan said. ``They cannot do this

indefinitely without very serious consequences.''

 

Patriotic Investors

 

Greenspan said patriotic Japanese investing in the nation's bonds

were keeping yields low, making the yen an attractive currency in

which to borrow to invest in higher yielding assets, known as the

carry trade. The trade has helped to push Japan's currency to a 21-

year low against its trading partners.

 

``Patriotism isn't the reason Japanese investors are buying

government bonds,'' said Kazuhiko Sano, chief strategist at Tokyo-

based Nikko Citigroup Ltd., the fifth-largest buyer at government

debt auctions. ``It's because they are not taking a risk on currency

fluctuations and volatility in the market, which is quite

reasonable.''

 

Asia is more likely to suffer from ``asset-related'' problems than a

repeat of the 1997-98 financial crisis that depleted the region's

foreign-exchange reserves, Greenspan said. China's CSI 300 Index has

climbed 49 percent since its 9 percent slump on Feb. 27 triggered a

global stock market rout.

 

Increased bank lending and money inflows from overseas have created

property asset bubbles in South Korea and India, making Seoul the

world's second-priciest city and Mumbai apartments cost as much as

Manhattan's.

 

``It's hard to imagine the U.S. economy going into recession, when

the Fed keeps rates so low,'' Sano said.

 

Asian Exports

 

Southeast Asia's export-dependent economies will be hurt by a

slowdown in U.S. consumption, Greenspan said. Still, higher domestic

spending may to limit any impact of declining overseas sales, he

said.

 

``There is no question if consumption in the U.S. slows down, you'll

find that exports in Southeast Asia will slow down somewhat,'' he

said. ``Overall, Asia and specifically, the developing world is

moving at twice the pace of the developed world and as the

extraordinarily high savings rate begins to be employed domestically,

part of that will be offset.''

 

His comments support the conclusion drawn by Asian finance ministers

attending the Asian Development Bank's annual meeting in Kyoto this

month.

 

Asia will withstand a slowdown in the U.S. and Europe this year,

driven by expansion in China and India, the two fastest- growing

major economies in the world, the region's finance ministers said.

 

The ADB in March raised its forecast for the region's developing

economies this year, citing a pick-up in spending by consumers and

companies that will cushion the impact of weaker overseas sales.

 

``While a moderate slowdown is expected this year in the U.S. and the

European Union, I believe China and India will continue to be the

driving forces of the world economy,'' said South Korean Finance

Minister Kwon Okyu.

 

 

 

SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote:

>

> U.S. Stocks Tumble Most in 2 Months on Slowing Economy Concern

> By Michael Patterson

>

> May 10 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. stock market tumbled the most in

almost

> two months after falling retail sales, higher import prices and a

> wider trade deficit heightened concern the economy will slow.

>

> Financial shares, led by Citigroup Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co.,

> dragged the Standard & Poor's 500 Index from its highest in six

years

> and the Dow Jones Industrial Average from a record on concern a

weaker

> economy will curb loan demand. Federated Department Stores Inc.,

owner

> of the Macy's chain, posted its biggest drop in seven months, while

> Nordstrom Inc., the Seattle- based chain of 98 department stores,

fell

> to a month low.

>

> The trade gap widened more than analysts forecast in March on higher

> oil imports, spurring expectations the government may reduce its

> first-quarter gross domestic product estimate. The Commerce

Department

> report came a day after the Federal Reserve kept its benchmark

> interest rate unchanged and said inflation remains a bigger threat

> than slower growth.

>

> ``The Fed's pretty much on hold, and yet the economy is slowing,''

> said Edward Hemmelgarn, who oversees about $400 million as president

> of Shaker Investments Inc. in Cleveland. ``These are the fears that

> are causing people to sell off.''

>

> The S & P 500 fell 21.11, or 1.4 percent, to 1491.47, its steepest

drop

> since March 13. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 147.74, or 1.1

> percent, to 13,215.13. The Nasdaq Composite Index decreased 42.60,

or

> 1.7 percent, to 2533.74.

>

> SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > There are a few placements in the SAMVA USA chart that warrant

> attention in coming days. Please see the attached gif file. Tomorrow

> on May 8:

> >

> > - L3 Mercury enters H11 and enters into opposition aspect with

> sub-period lord Jupiter as L6. Mercury as lord of the third house is

> the indicator of both courage and confidence in the chart. It is

also

> the general indicator of commerce. Hence, the influence on the stock

> market should at long last be felt.

> > - L10 Mars enters H9 and also enters into the aspect of natal

> Jupiter. Mars is also an indicator of confidence and courage.

> >

> > While both planets are in good houses, the aspect of the sub-

period

> lord would indicate that the conflict that has marked US society for

> some months now will have an effect to reduce the confidences and

> spirits of investors - and the more so as this aspect becomes closer

> towards the end of the week.

> >

> > Another difficult placement involves both natal and transit L2

Sun,

> with transit Sun also coming under a close aspect of transit L8

> Saturn. The maleficience of Saturn is greater as it is at the same

> time suffering under a long standing and close aspect of transit L6

> Jupiter. This means the Sun's functional indications of wealth,

status

> and close relationships and general indications of the leader of the

> country will come under increased pressure in the next few days.

> >

> > At the same time, the nodes, while seperating from the exact

> conjunction with the H8 and H2 MEP, are coming into closer aspect of

> the natal nodes in H4 and H10. This adds to the overall strain.

With

> transit L4 Venus also in H12, this would undermines the communal

harmony.

> >

> > In short, the energy of the sub-period lord, Jupiter, is being

felt

> in many areas and it is also moving closer to the MEP of H5 in

coming

> weeks. Hence, the stock market could feel the impact. The role of

> mysterious karma is such that it can bring an event that is totally

> unexpected and one that creates a shock. This is what I think could

> happen in the USA this week.

> >

> > I�d be interested in the view of , Vyas

Munidas

> and other list members on this reading. In any event, we will soon

see

> what coming days bring.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Thor

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The fish are biting.

> > Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing.

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Dear Thor, David and others:Could you please not comment on stock markets. You may be 100% correct on other things based on SAMVA chart, but certainly not on stock market. Based on my studies with the help of SA, I see that the period from now to July 2008, is going to be very productive. It does not mean that there will not be corrections. But those who will buy or add on corrections will be amply rewarded.Your enthusiasm to prove your chart is not good at this time for the investors.ThanksRaj Chadha cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear friends, More bad news for the US economy. First, Walmart, the biggest US retailer announces their worst slaes ever. Second, former Fed chairman Alan Greenspan reiterates his view that there is a one-in- three chance of a recession in the USA this year. He also issues a warning about share prices in Asia. Yesterday, the US stock market fell the most in two months, 1.1%-1.5%.This is in line with my prediction on the basis of the SAMVA USA chart that the economic and financial developments towards the end of this week would be adverse. Best wishes, Thor Wal-Mart posts worst sales ever as US retail figures slump Friday May 11, 2007, The Guardian, David Teather Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, yesterday posted its worst monthly sales figures since its records began in 1980. The company said same

store sales fell 3.5% in April on the same month a year ago. Same store sales measure the performance of stores that have been open for at least 12 months. But Wal-Mart was not the only US retailer turning in a poor performance in April, triggering fears that the US housing slump might be spilling over into consumer spending and that the economy might be taking a turn for the worse. Greenspan Sees a One-Third Chance of U.S. Recession (Update6) By Shamim Adam May 11 (Bloomberg) -- Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan said he still sees a one-third chance of a recession in the U.S. economy this year, as consumption eases and the housing market slows. A ``mild recovery'' in the second quarter is not very strong, according to a recording of Greenspan's comments today to a conference hosted by Merrill Lynch & Co. in Singapore obtained by Bloomberg News.

``There is no doubt there is a slowdown going on the U.S.,'' Greenspan said via satellite from Washington. ``We are clearly having troubles in the capital investment area, as well as potentially in the consumption area and obviously housing being a significant drag.'' The U.S. stock market yesterday tumbled the most in almost two months after falling retail sales, higher import prices and a wider trade deficit heightened concern the economy will slow. U.S. policy makers on May 9 kept the benchmark interest rate at 5.25 percent and said inflation is the biggest risk facing the economy despite a yearlong slowdown. In March, Greenspan said there was a ``one-third probability'' of a recession this year and the current expansion wouldn't have the staying power of its decade-long predecessor. Greenspan in late February predicted that U.S. economic growth might stagnate, a view at odds with

those of Ben S. Bernanke, his successor, and other Fed officials. `Algebraic Implications' ``At the moment, I still say as I said before, by algebraic implications, the odds are 2 to 1 we won't have a recession,'' Greenspan said today. China should allow the yuan, or renminbi, to appreciate a ``lot faster'' than it has been, Greenspan said. The central bank has allowed the currency to rise 7.7 percent since China scrapped a dollar peg in July 2005. China's currency reserves are the world's largest and accumulated in part through purchases of dollar-denominated U.S. Treasuries done to temper yuan appreciation. The reserves rose to a record $1.2 trillion at the end of March. ``Unless the intervention into the foreign exchange market comes to a halt, which is another way of saying that they'll allow the renminbi to rise, they would find it at some point, extremely

difficult to handle the imbalance problem,'' Greenspan said. ``They cannot do this indefinitely without very serious consequences.'' Patriotic Investors Greenspan said patriotic Japanese investing in the nation's bonds were keeping yields low, making the yen an attractive currency in which to borrow to invest in higher yielding assets, known as the carry trade. The trade has helped to push Japan's currency to a 21- year low against its trading partners. ``Patriotism isn't the reason Japanese investors are buying government bonds,'' said Kazuhiko Sano, chief strategist at Tokyo- based Nikko Citigroup Ltd., the fifth-largest buyer at government debt auctions. ``It's because they are not taking a risk on currency fluctuations and volatility in the market, which is quite reasonable.'' Asia is more likely to suffer from ``asset-related'' problems than a repeat of the

1997-98 financial crisis that depleted the region's foreign-exchange reserves, Greenspan said. China's CSI 300 Index has climbed 49 percent since its 9 percent slump on Feb. 27 triggered a global stock market rout. Increased bank lending and money inflows from overseas have created property asset bubbles in South Korea and India, making Seoul the world's second-priciest city and Mumbai apartments cost as much as Manhattan's. ``It's hard to imagine the U.S. economy going into recession, when the Fed keeps rates so low,'' Sano said. Asian Exports Southeast Asia's export-dependent economies will be hurt by a slowdown in U.S. consumption, Greenspan said. Still, higher domestic spending may to limit any impact of declining overseas sales, he said. ``There is no question if consumption in the U.S. slows down, you'll find that exports in Southeast Asia will slow down

somewhat,'' he said. ``Overall, Asia and specifically, the developing world is moving at twice the pace of the developed world and as the extraordinarily high savings rate begins to be employed domestically, part of that will be offset.'' His comments support the conclusion drawn by Asian finance ministers attending the Asian Development Bank's annual meeting in Kyoto this month. Asia will withstand a slowdown in the U.S. and Europe this year, driven by expansion in China and India, the two fastest- growing major economies in the world, the region's finance ministers said. The ADB in March raised its forecast for the region's developing economies this year, citing a pick-up in spending by consumers and companies that will cushion the impact of weaker overseas sales. ``While a moderate slowdown is expected this year in the U.S. and the European Union, I believe China and India

will continue to be the driving forces of the world economy,'' said South Korean Finance Minister Kwon Okyu. SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer wrote: > > U.S. Stocks Tumble Most in 2 Months on Slowing Economy Concern > By Michael Patterson > > May 10 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. stock market tumbled the most in almost > two months after falling retail sales, higher import prices and a > wider trade deficit heightened concern the economy will slow. > > Financial shares, led by Citigroup Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co., > dragged the Standard & Poor's 500 Index from its highest in six years > and the Dow Jones Industrial Average from a record on concern a weaker > economy will curb loan demand. Federated Department Stores Inc., owner > of the Macy's chain,

posted its biggest drop in seven months, while > Nordstrom Inc., the Seattle- based chain of 98 department stores, fell > to a month low. > > The trade gap widened more than analysts forecast in March on higher > oil imports, spurring expectations the government may reduce its > first-quarter gross domestic product estimate. The Commerce Department > report came a day after the Federal Reserve kept its benchmark > interest rate unchanged and said inflation remains a bigger threat > than slower growth. > > ``The Fed's pretty much on hold, and yet the economy is slowing,'' > said Edward Hemmelgarn, who oversees about $400 million as president > of Shaker Investments Inc. in Cleveland. ``These are the fears that > are causing people to sell off.'' > > The S & P 500 fell 21.11, or 1.4 percent, to 1491.47, its steepest drop > since March 13.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 147.74, or 1.1 > percent, to 13,215.13. The Nasdaq Composite Index decreased 42.60, or > 1.7 percent, to 2533.74. > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > There are a few placements in the SAMVA USA chart that warrant > attention in coming days. Please see the attached gif file. Tomorrow > on May 8: > > > > - L3 Mercury enters H11 and enters into opposition aspect with > sub-period lord Jupiter as L6. Mercury as lord of the third house is > the indicator of both courage and confidence in the chart. It is also > the general indicator of commerce. Hence, the influence on the stock > market should at long last be felt. > > - L10 Mars enters H9 and also enters into the

aspect of natal > Jupiter. Mars is also an indicator of confidence and courage. > > > > While both planets are in good houses, the aspect of the sub- period > lord would indicate that the conflict that has marked US society for > some months now will have an effect to reduce the confidences and > spirits of investors - and the more so as this aspect becomes closer > towards the end of the week. > > > > Another difficult placement involves both natal and transit L2 Sun, > with transit Sun also coming under a close aspect of transit L8 > Saturn. The maleficience of Saturn is greater as it is at the same > time suffering under a long standing and close aspect of transit L6 > Jupiter. This means the Sun's functional indications of wealth, status > and close relationships and general indications of the leader of the > country will come under

increased pressure in the next few days. > > > > At the same time, the nodes, while seperating from the exact > conjunction with the H8 and H2 MEP, are coming into closer aspect of > the natal nodes in H4 and H10. This adds to the overall strain. With > transit L4 Venus also in H12, this would undermines the communal harmony. > > > > In short, the energy of the sub-period lord, Jupiter, is being felt > in many areas and it is also moving closer to the MEP of H5 in coming > weeks. Hence, the stock market could feel the impact. The role of > mysterious karma is such that it can bring an event that is totally > unexpected and one that creates a shock. This is what I think could > happen in the USA this week. > > > > I�d be interested in the view of , Vyas Munidas > and other list members on this reading.

In any event, we will soon see > what coming days bring. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > The fish are biting. > > Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. > > >

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Hello dear Mr. Chadha, It is good that you have made a prediction on record. We have to keep patience to see the duration of predictions before take further decision on the SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes.

 

 

 

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Re: Re: USA; critical days ahead in terms of SAMVA USA chart

Dear Thor, David and others:Could you please not comment on stock markets. You may be 100% correct on other things based on SAMVA chart, but certainly not on stock market. Based on my studies with the help of SA, I see that the period from now to July 2008, is going to be very productive. It does not mean that there will not be corrections. But those who will buy or add on corrections will be amply rewarded.Your enthusiasm to prove your chart is not good at this time for the investors.ThanksRaj Chadha cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

 

 

Dear friends,More bad news for the US economy. First, Walmart, the biggest US retailer announces their worst slaes ever. Second, former Fed chairman Alan Greenspan reiterates his view that there is a one-in-three chance of a recession in the USA this year. He also issues a warning about share prices in Asia. Yesterday, the US stock market fell the most in two months, 1.1%-1.5%.This is in line with my prediction on the basis of the SAMVA USA chart that the economic and financial developments towards the end of this week would be adverse.Best wishes,ThorWal-Mart posts worst sales ever as US retail figures slumpFriday May 11, 2007, The Guardian, David Teather Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, yesterday posted its worst monthly sales figures since its records began in 1980.The company said same store sales fell 3.5% in April on the same month a year ago. Same store sales measure the performance of stores that have been open for at least 12 months.But Wal-Mart was not the only US retailer turning in a poor performance in April, triggering fears that the US housing slump might be spilling over into consumer spending and that the economy might be taking a turn for the worse.Greenspan Sees a One-Third Chance of U.S. Recession (Update6) By Shamim AdamMay 11 (Bloomberg) -- Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan said he still sees a one-third chance of a recession in the U.S. economy this year, as consumption eases and the housing market slows. A ``mild recovery'' in the second quarter is not very strong, according to a recording of Greenspan's comments today to a conference hosted by Merrill Lynch & Co. in Singapore obtained by Bloomberg News. ``There is no doubt there is a slowdown going on the U.S.,'' Greenspan said via satellite from Washington. ``We are clearly having troubles in the capital investment area, as well as potentially in the consumption area and obviously housing being a significant drag.'' The U.S. stock market yesterday tumbled the most in almost two months after falling retail sales, higher import prices and a wider trade deficit heightened concern the economy will slow. U.S. policy makers on May 9 kept the benchmark interest rate at 5.25 percent and said inflation is the biggest risk facing the economy despite a yearlong slowdown. In March, Greenspan said there was a ``one-third probability'' of a recession this year and the current expansion wouldn't have the staying power of its decade-long predecessor. Greenspan in late February predicted that U.S. economic growth might stagnate, a view at odds with those of Ben S. Bernanke, his successor, and other Fed officials. `Algebraic Implications' ``At the moment, I still say as I said before, by algebraic implications, the odds are 2 to 1 we won't have a recession,'' Greenspan said today. China should allow the yuan, or renminbi, to appreciate a ``lot faster'' than it has been, Greenspan said. The central bank has allowed the currency to rise 7.7 percent since China scrapped a dollar peg in July 2005. China's currency reserves are the world's largest and accumulated in part through purchases of dollar-denominated U.S. Treasuries done to temper yuan appreciation. The reserves rose to a record $1.2 trillion at the end of March. ``Unless the intervention into the foreign exchange market comes to a halt, which is another way of saying that they'll allow the renminbi to rise, they would find it at some point, extremely difficult to handle the imbalance problem,'' Greenspan said. ``They cannot do this indefinitely without very serious consequences.'' Patriotic Investors Greenspan said patriotic Japanese investing in the nation's bonds were keeping yields low, making the yen an attractive currency in which to borrow to invest in higher yielding assets, known as the carry trade. The trade has helped to push Japan's currency to a 21-year low against its trading partners. ``Patriotism isn't the reason Japanese investors are buying government bonds,'' said Kazuhiko Sano, chief strategist at Tokyo-based Nikko Citigroup Ltd., the fifth-largest buyer at government debt auctions. ``It's because they are not taking a risk on currency fluctuations and volatility in the market, which is quite reasonable.'' Asia is more likely to suffer from ``asset-related'' problems than a repeat of the 1997-98 financial crisis that depleted the region's foreign-exchange reserves, Greenspan said. China's CSI 300 Index has climbed 49 percent since its 9 percent slump on Feb. 27 triggered a global stock market rout. Increased bank lending and money inflows from overseas have created property asset bubbles in South Korea and India, making Seoul the world's second-priciest city and Mumbai apartments cost as much as Manhattan's. ``It's hard to imagine the U.S. economy going into recession, when the Fed keeps rates so low,'' Sano said. Asian Exports Southeast Asia's export-dependent economies will be hurt by a slowdown in U.S. consumption, Greenspan said. Still, higher domestic spending may to limit any impact of declining overseas sales, he said. ``There is no question if consumption in the U.S. slows down, you'll find that exports in Southeast Asia will slow down somewhat,'' he said. ``Overall, Asia and specifically, the developing world is moving at twice the pace of the developed world and as the extraordinarily high savings rate begins to be employed domestically, part of that will be offset.'' His comments support the conclusion drawn by Asian finance ministers attending the Asian Development Bank's annual meeting in Kyoto this month. Asia will withstand a slowdown in the U.S. and Europe this year, driven by expansion in China and India, the two fastest- growing major economies in the world, the region's finance ministers said. The ADB in March raised its forecast for the region's developing economies this year, citing a pick-up in spending by consumers and companies that will cushion the impact of weaker overseas sales. ``While a moderate slowdown is expected this year in the U.S. and the European Union, I believe China and India will continue to be the driving forces of the world economy,'' said South Korean Finance Minister Kwon Okyu. SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer wrote:>> U.S. Stocks Tumble Most in 2 Months on Slowing Economy Concern> By Michael Patterson> > May 10 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. stock market tumbled the most in almost> two months after falling retail sales, higher import prices and a> wider trade deficit heightened concern the economy will slow.> > Financial shares, led by Citigroup Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co.,> dragged the Standard & Poor's 500 Index from its highest in six years> and the Dow Jones Industrial Average from a record on concern a weaker> economy will curb loan demand. Federated Department Stores Inc., owner> of the Macy's chain, posted its biggest drop in seven months, while> Nordstrom Inc., the Seattle- based chain of 98 department stores, fell> to a month low.> > The trade gap widened more than analysts forecast in March on higher> oil imports, spurring expectations the government may reduce its> first-quarter gross domestic product estimate. The Commerce Department> report came a day after the Federal Reserve kept its benchmark> interest rate unchanged and said inflation remains a bigger threat> than slower growth.> > ``The Fed's pretty much on hold, and yet the economy is slowing,''> said Edward Hemmelgarn, who oversees about $400 million as president> of Shaker Investments Inc. in Cleveland. ``These are the fears that> are causing people to sell off.''> > The S & P 500 fell 21.11, or 1.4 percent, to 1491.47, its steepest drop> since March 13. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 147.74, or 1.1> percent, to 13,215.13. The Nasdaq Composite Index decreased 42.60, or> 1.7 percent, to 2533.74. > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:> >> > Dear friends,> > > > There are a few placements in the SAMVA USA chart that warrant> attention in coming days. Please see the attached gif file. Tomorrow> on May 8:> > > > - L3 Mercury enters H11 and enters into opposition aspect with> sub-period lord Jupiter as L6. Mercury as lord of the third house is> the indicator of both courage and confidence in the chart. It is also> the general indicator of commerce. Hence, the influence on the stock> market should at long last be felt. > > - L10 Mars enters H9 and also enters into the aspect of natal> Jupiter. Mars is also an indicator of confidence and courage. > > > > While both planets are in good houses, the aspect of the sub-period> lord would indicate that the conflict that has marked US society for> some months now will have an effect to reduce the confidences and> spirits of investors - and the more so as this aspect becomes closer> towards the end of the week.> > > > Another difficult placement involves both natal and transit L2 Sun,> with transit Sun also coming under a close aspect of transit L8> Saturn. The maleficience of Saturn is greater as it is at the same> time suffering under a long standing and close aspect of transit L6> Jupiter. This means the Sun's functional indications of wealth, status> and close relationships and general indications of the leader of the> country will come under increased pressure in the next few days. > > > > At the same time, the nodes, while seperating from the exact> conjunction with the H8 and H2 MEP, are coming into closer aspect of> the natal nodes in H4 and H10. This adds to the overall strain. With > transit L4 Venus also in H12, this would undermines the communal harmony.> > > > In short, the energy of the sub-period lord, Jupiter, is being felt> in many areas and it is also moving closer to the MEP of H5 in coming> weeks. Hence, the stock market could feel the impact. The role of> mysterious karma is such that it can bring an event that is totally> unexpected and one that creates a shock. This is what I think could> happen in the USA this week.> > > > I�d be interested in the view of , Vyas Munidas> and other list members on this reading. In any event, we will soon see> what coming days bring.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Thor> > > > > > > > > > > > The fish are biting.> > Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing.> >>

 

 

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Hello Raj,

 

First let me say that on this forum we expect list members to treat

each other with a modicum respect. No one is told to shut up because

certain predictions haven´t panned out. That is a ground rule on the

SA lists, we are free to go out on a limb and test new charts. As this

list is for learning SA in the mundane sphere, including doing

research based on tentative charts for different countries, we will

certainly continue to enjoy the freedom to comment on charts under

study and concerning any area of interest to the list members,

including the stock market. Please be advised that this list is not a

service for investors but a forum for mundane astrologers to conduct

an ongoing investigation into the merits of respective charts. I would

be surprised if investors were so child like to base their decisions

on such research work. So, first and last, we are here to learn the

application of SA astrology in the mundane sphere. Is that clear to you?

 

As for your claims, you are welcome to make them. But on this list we

uphold the scientific approach to predictions. They need to be based

on astrological factors with reference to a given chart. We do not

accept any claims that have no such logical approach or transparency.

You have made one prediction with respect to a chart (2.17 AM on July

4, 1776 in Philadelpia). There are two things that make me sceptical.

First, you have yourself raised questions about the historical

legitimacy of the particular chart you are using. Despite that you

continue to use it as it has given you " stellar results for the past

ten years " . Importantly, this is a claim by you that has not been

proven to SAMVA list members. Second, you have not, as of yet at

least, shown any astrological analysis as a basis for your recent or

new predictions. To conclude, until you demonstrate predictive

accuracy based on a prior presentation of the astrological factors,

you cannot expect to be taken seriously here. That said, you are free

to discuss more fully your chart here, including the basis of your

predictions. We can then examine the chart and the analysis more

carefully with respect to the events in the time frame of a given

prediction.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:

>

> Dear Thor, David and others:

>

> Could you please not comment on stock markets. You may be 100%

correct on other things based on SAMVA chart, but certainly not on

stock market.

>

> Based on my studies with the help of SA, I see that the period from

now to July 2008, is going to be very productive. It does not mean

that there will not be corrections. But those who will buy or add on

corrections will be amply rewarded.

> Your enthusiasm to prove your chart is not good at this time for the

investors.

>

> Thanks

>

> Raj Chadha

>

> cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

Dear friends,

>

> More bad news for the US economy. First, Walmart, the biggest US

> retailer announces their worst slaes ever. Second, former Fed

> chairman Alan Greenspan reiterates his view that there is a one-in-

> three chance of a recession in the USA this year. He also issues a

> warning about share prices in Asia. Yesterday, the US stock market

> fell the most in two months, 1.1%-1.5%.This is in line with my

> prediction on the basis of the SAMVA USA chart that the economic and

> financial developments towards the end of this week would be adverse.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

> Wal-Mart posts worst sales ever as US retail figures slump

> Friday May 11, 2007, The Guardian, David Teather

>

> Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, yesterday posted its worst

> monthly sales figures since its records began in 1980.

> The company said same store sales fell 3.5% in April on the same

> month a year ago. Same store sales measure the performance of stores

> that have been open for at least 12 months.

>

> But Wal-Mart was not the only US retailer turning in a poor

> performance in April, triggering fears that the US housing slump

> might be spilling over into consumer spending and that the economy

> might be taking a turn for the worse.

>

> Greenspan Sees a One-Third Chance of U.S. Recession (Update6)

>

> By Shamim Adam

>

> May 11 (Bloomberg) -- Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan

> said he still sees a one-third chance of a recession in the U.S.

> economy this year, as consumption eases and the housing market slows.

>

> A ``mild recovery'' in the second quarter is not very strong,

> according to a recording of Greenspan's comments today to a

> conference hosted by Merrill Lynch & Co. in Singapore obtained by

> Bloomberg News.

>

> ``There is no doubt there is a slowdown going on the U.S.,''

> Greenspan said via satellite from Washington. ``We are clearly having

> troubles in the capital investment area, as well as potentially in

> the consumption area and obviously housing being a significant

> drag.''

>

> The U.S. stock market yesterday tumbled the most in almost two months

> after falling retail sales, higher import prices and a wider trade

> deficit heightened concern the economy will slow. U.S. policy makers

> on May 9 kept the benchmark interest rate at 5.25 percent and said

> inflation is the biggest risk facing the economy despite a yearlong

> slowdown.

>

> In March, Greenspan said there was a ``one-third probability'' of a

> recession this year and the current expansion wouldn't have the

> staying power of its decade-long predecessor. Greenspan in late

> February predicted that U.S. economic growth might stagnate, a view

> at odds with those of Ben S. Bernanke, his successor, and other Fed

> officials.

>

> `Algebraic Implications'

>

> ``At the moment, I still say as I said before, by algebraic

> implications, the odds are 2 to 1 we won't have a recession,''

> Greenspan said today.

>

> China should allow the yuan, or renminbi, to appreciate a ``lot

> faster'' than it has been, Greenspan said. The central bank has

> allowed the currency to rise 7.7 percent since China scrapped a

> dollar peg in July 2005.

>

> China's currency reserves are the world's largest and accumulated in

> part through purchases of dollar-denominated U.S. Treasuries done to

> temper yuan appreciation. The reserves rose to a record $1.2 trillion

> at the end of March.

>

> ``Unless the intervention into the foreign exchange market comes to a

> halt, which is another way of saying that they'll allow the renminbi

> to rise, they would find it at some point, extremely difficult to

> handle the imbalance problem,'' Greenspan said. ``They cannot do this

> indefinitely without very serious consequences.''

>

> Patriotic Investors

>

> Greenspan said patriotic Japanese investing in the nation's bonds

> were keeping yields low, making the yen an attractive currency in

> which to borrow to invest in higher yielding assets, known as the

> carry trade. The trade has helped to push Japan's currency to a 21-

> year low against its trading partners.

>

> ``Patriotism isn't the reason Japanese investors are buying

> government bonds,'' said Kazuhiko Sano, chief strategist at Tokyo-

> based Nikko Citigroup Ltd., the fifth-largest buyer at government

> debt auctions. ``It's because they are not taking a risk on currency

> fluctuations and volatility in the market, which is quite

> reasonable.''

>

> Asia is more likely to suffer from ``asset-related'' problems than a

> repeat of the 1997-98 financial crisis that depleted the region's

> foreign-exchange reserves, Greenspan said. China's CSI 300 Index has

> climbed 49 percent since its 9 percent slump on Feb. 27 triggered a

> global stock market rout.

>

> Increased bank lending and money inflows from overseas have created

> property asset bubbles in South Korea and India, making Seoul the

> world's second-priciest city and Mumbai apartments cost as much as

> Manhattan's.

>

> ``It's hard to imagine the U.S. economy going into recession, when

> the Fed keeps rates so low,'' Sano said.

>

> Asian Exports

>

> Southeast Asia's export-dependent economies will be hurt by a

> slowdown in U.S. consumption, Greenspan said. Still, higher domestic

> spending may to limit any impact of declining overseas sales, he

> said.

>

> ``There is no question if consumption in the U.S. slows down, you'll

> find that exports in Southeast Asia will slow down somewhat,'' he

> said. ``Overall, Asia and specifically, the developing world is

> moving at twice the pace of the developed world and as the

> extraordinarily high savings rate begins to be employed domestically,

> part of that will be offset.''

>

> His comments support the conclusion drawn by Asian finance ministers

> attending the Asian Development Bank's annual meeting in Kyoto this

> month.

>

> Asia will withstand a slowdown in the U.S. and Europe this year,

> driven by expansion in China and India, the two fastest- growing

> major economies in the world, the region's finance ministers said.

>

> The ADB in March raised its forecast for the region's developing

> economies this year, citing a pick-up in spending by consumers and

> companies that will cushion the impact of weaker overseas sales.

>

> ``While a moderate slowdown is expected this year in the U.S. and the

> European Union, I believe China and India will continue to be the

> driving forces of the world economy,'' said South Korean Finance

> Minister Kwon Okyu.

>

> SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote:

> >

> > U.S. Stocks Tumble Most in 2 Months on Slowing Economy Concern

> > By Michael Patterson

> >

> > May 10 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. stock market tumbled the most in

> almost

> > two months after falling retail sales, higher import prices and a

> > wider trade deficit heightened concern the economy will slow.

> >

> > Financial shares, led by Citigroup Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co.,

> > dragged the Standard & Poor's 500 Index from its highest in six

> years

> > and the Dow Jones Industrial Average from a record on concern a

> weaker

> > economy will curb loan demand. Federated Department Stores Inc.,

> owner

> > of the Macy's chain, posted its biggest drop in seven months, while

> > Nordstrom Inc., the Seattle- based chain of 98 department stores,

> fell

> > to a month low.

> >

> > The trade gap widened more than analysts forecast in March on higher

> > oil imports, spurring expectations the government may reduce its

> > first-quarter gross domestic product estimate. The Commerce

> Department

> > report came a day after the Federal Reserve kept its benchmark

> > interest rate unchanged and said inflation remains a bigger threat

> > than slower growth.

> >

> > ``The Fed's pretty much on hold, and yet the economy is slowing,''

> > said Edward Hemmelgarn, who oversees about $400 million as president

> > of Shaker Investments Inc. in Cleveland. ``These are the fears that

> > are causing people to sell off.''

> >

> > The S & P 500 fell 21.11, or 1.4 percent, to 1491.47, its steepest

> drop

> > since March 13. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 147.74, or 1.1

> > percent, to 13,215.13. The Nasdaq Composite Index decreased 42.60,

> or

> > 1.7 percent, to 2533.74.

> >

> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friends,

> > >

> > > There are a few placements in the SAMVA USA chart that warrant

> > attention in coming days. Please see the attached gif file. Tomorrow

> > on May 8:

> > >

> > > - L3 Mercury enters H11 and enters into opposition aspect with

> > sub-period lord Jupiter as L6. Mercury as lord of the third house is

> > the indicator of both courage and confidence in the chart. It is

> also

> > the general indicator of commerce. Hence, the influence on the stock

> > market should at long last be felt.

> > > - L10 Mars enters H9 and also enters into the aspect of natal

> > Jupiter. Mars is also an indicator of confidence and courage.

> > >

> > > While both planets are in good houses, the aspect of the sub-

> period

> > lord would indicate that the conflict that has marked US society for

> > some months now will have an effect to reduce the confidences and

> > spirits of investors - and the more so as this aspect becomes closer

> > towards the end of the week.

> > >

> > > Another difficult placement involves both natal and transit L2

> Sun,

> > with transit Sun also coming under a close aspect of transit L8

> > Saturn. The maleficience of Saturn is greater as it is at the same

> > time suffering under a long standing and close aspect of transit L6

> > Jupiter. This means the Sun's functional indications of wealth,

> status

> > and close relationships and general indications of the leader of the

> > country will come under increased pressure in the next few days.

> > >

> > > At the same time, the nodes, while seperating from the exact

> > conjunction with the H8 and H2 MEP, are coming into closer aspect of

> > the natal nodes in H4 and H10. This adds to the overall strain.

> With

> > transit L4 Venus also in H12, this would undermines the communal

> harmony.

> > >

> > > In short, the energy of the sub-period lord, Jupiter, is being

> felt

> > in many areas and it is also moving closer to the MEP of H5 in

> coming

> > weeks. Hence, the stock market could feel the impact. The role of

> > mysterious karma is such that it can bring an event that is totally

> > unexpected and one that creates a shock. This is what I think could

> > happen in the USA this week.

> > >

> > > I�d be interested in the view of , Vyas

> Munidas

> > and other list members on this reading. In any event, we will soon

> see

> > what coming days bring.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Thor

> > >

> > >

> > >

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:Thank you very much. That is the spirit we all should have.Raj Chadhasiha wrote: Hello dear Mr. Chadha, It is good that you have made a prediction on record. We have to keep patience to see the duration of predictions before take further decision on the SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes. - Raj Cgadha SAMVA Friday, May 11, 2007 10:29 PM Re: Re: USA; critical days ahead in terms of SAMVA USA chart Dear Thor, David and others:Could you please not comment on stock markets. You may be 100% correct on other things based on SAMVA chart, but certainly not on stock market. Based on my studies with the help of SA, I see that the period from now to July 2008, is going to be very productive. It does not mean that there will not

be corrections. But those who will buy or add on corrections will be amply rewarded.Your enthusiasm to prove your chart is not good at this time for the investors.ThanksRaj Chadha cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote: Dear friends,More bad news for the US economy. First, Walmart, the biggest US retailer announces their worst slaes ever. Second, former Fed chairman Alan Greenspan reiterates his view that there is a one-in-three chance of a recession in the USA this year. He also issues a warning about share prices in Asia. Yesterday, the US stock market fell the most in two months, 1.1%-1.5%.This is in line with my prediction on the basis of the SAMVA USA chart that the economic and financial

developments towards the end of this week would be adverse.Best wishes,ThorWal-Mart posts worst sales ever as US retail figures slumpFriday May 11, 2007, The Guardian, David Teather Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, yesterday posted its worst monthly sales figures since its records began in 1980.The company said same store sales fell 3.5% in April on the same month a year ago. Same store sales measure the performance of stores that have been open for at least 12 months.But Wal-Mart was not the only US retailer turning in a poor performance in April, triggering fears that the US housing slump might be spilling over into consumer spending and that the economy might be taking a turn for the worse.Greenspan Sees a One-Third Chance of U.S. Recession (Update6) By Shamim AdamMay 11 (Bloomberg) -- Former Federal Reserve

chairman Alan Greenspan said he still sees a one-third chance of a recession in the U.S. economy this year, as consumption eases and the housing market slows. A ``mild recovery'' in the second quarter is not very strong, according to a recording of Greenspan's comments today to a conference hosted by Merrill Lynch & Co. in Singapore obtained by Bloomberg News. ``There is no doubt there is a slowdown going on the U.S.,'' Greenspan said via satellite from Washington. ``We are clearly having troubles in the capital investment area, as well as potentially in the consumption area and obviously housing being a significant drag.'' The U.S. stock market yesterday tumbled the most in almost two months after falling retail sales, higher import prices and a wider trade deficit heightened concern the economy will slow. U.S. policy makers on May 9

kept the benchmark interest rate at 5.25 percent and said inflation is the biggest risk facing the economy despite a yearlong slowdown. In March, Greenspan said there was a ``one-third probability'' of a recession this year and the current expansion wouldn't have the staying power of its decade-long predecessor. Greenspan in late February predicted that U.S. economic growth might stagnate, a view at odds with those of Ben S. Bernanke, his successor, and other Fed officials. `Algebraic Implications' ``At the moment, I still say as I said before, by algebraic implications, the odds are 2 to 1 we won't have a recession,'' Greenspan said today. China should allow the yuan, or renminbi, to appreciate a ``lot faster'' than it has been, Greenspan said. The central bank has allowed the currency to rise 7.7 percent since China scrapped a

dollar peg in July 2005. China's currency reserves are the world's largest and accumulated in part through purchases of dollar-denominated U.S. Treasuries done to temper yuan appreciation. The reserves rose to a record $1.2 trillion at the end of March. ``Unless the intervention into the foreign exchange market comes to a halt, which is another way of saying that they'll allow the renminbi to rise, they would find it at some point, extremely difficult to handle the imbalance problem,'' Greenspan said. ``They cannot do this indefinitely without very serious consequences.'' Patriotic Investors Greenspan said patriotic Japanese investing in the nation's bonds were keeping yields low, making the yen an attractive currency in which to borrow to invest in higher yielding assets, known as the carry trade. The trade has helped to push Japan's

currency to a 21-year low against its trading partners. ``Patriotism isn't the reason Japanese investors are buying government bonds,'' said Kazuhiko Sano, chief strategist at Tokyo-based Nikko Citigroup Ltd., the fifth-largest buyer at government debt auctions. ``It's because they are not taking a risk on currency fluctuations and volatility in the market, which is quite reasonable.'' Asia is more likely to suffer from ``asset-related'' problems than a repeat of the 1997-98 financial crisis that depleted the region's foreign-exchange reserves, Greenspan said. China's CSI 300 Index has climbed 49 percent since its 9 percent slump on Feb. 27 triggered a global stock market rout. Increased bank lending and money inflows from overseas have created property asset bubbles in South Korea and India, making Seoul the world's

second-priciest city and Mumbai apartments cost as much as Manhattan's. ``It's hard to imagine the U.S. economy going into recession, when the Fed keeps rates so low,'' Sano said. Asian Exports Southeast Asia's export-dependent economies will be hurt by a slowdown in U.S. consumption, Greenspan said. Still, higher domestic spending may to limit any impact of declining overseas sales, he said. ``There is no question if consumption in the U.S. slows down, you'll find that exports in Southeast Asia will slow down somewhat,'' he said. ``Overall, Asia and specifically, the developing world is moving at twice the pace of the developed world and as the extraordinarily high savings rate begins to be employed domestically, part of that will be offset.'' His comments support the conclusion drawn by Asian finance ministers attending the Asian

Development Bank's annual meeting in Kyoto this month. Asia will withstand a slowdown in the U.S. and Europe this year, driven by expansion in China and India, the two fastest- growing major economies in the world, the region's finance ministers said. The ADB in March raised its forecast for the region's developing economies this year, citing a pick-up in spending by consumers and companies that will cushion the impact of weaker overseas sales. ``While a moderate slowdown is expected this year in the U.S. and the European Union, I believe China and India will continue to be the driving forces of the world economy,'' said South Korean Finance Minister Kwon Okyu. SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer wrote:>> U.S. Stocks Tumble Most in 2 Months on

Slowing Economy Concern> By Michael Patterson> > May 10 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. stock market tumbled the most in almost> two months after falling retail sales, higher import prices and a> wider trade deficit heightened concern the economy will slow.> > Financial shares, led by Citigroup Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co.,> dragged the Standard & Poor's 500 Index from its highest in six years> and the Dow Jones Industrial Average from a record on concern a weaker> economy will curb loan demand. Federated Department Stores Inc., owner> of the Macy's chain, posted its biggest drop in seven months, while> Nordstrom Inc., the Seattle- based chain of 98 department stores, fell> to a month low.> > The trade gap widened more than analysts forecast in March on higher> oil imports,

spurring expectations the government may reduce its> first-quarter gross domestic product estimate. The Commerce Department> report came a day after the Federal Reserve kept its benchmark> interest rate unchanged and said inflation remains a bigger threat> than slower growth.> > ``The Fed's pretty much on hold, and yet the economy is slowing,''> said Edward Hemmelgarn, who oversees about $400 million as president> of Shaker Investments Inc. in Cleveland. ``These are the fears that> are causing people to sell off.''> > The S & P 500 fell 21.11, or 1.4 percent, to 1491.47, its steepest drop> since March 13. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 147.74, or 1.1> percent, to 13,215.13. The Nasdaq Composite Index decreased 42.60, or> 1.7 percent, to 2533.74. > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:> >> > Dear friends,> > > > There are a few placements in the SAMVA USA chart that warrant> attention in coming days. Please see the attached gif file. Tomorrow> on May 8:> > > > - L3 Mercury enters H11 and enters into opposition aspect with> sub-period lord Jupiter as L6. Mercury as lord of the third house is> the indicator of both courage and confidence in the chart. It is also> the general indicator of commerce. Hence, the influence on the stock> market should at long last be felt. > > - L10 Mars enters H9 and also enters into the aspect of natal> Jupiter. Mars is also an indicator of confidence and courage. > > > > While both planets are in good houses, the

aspect of the sub-period> lord would indicate that the conflict that has marked US society for> some months now will have an effect to reduce the confidences and> spirits of investors - and the more so as this aspect becomes closer> towards the end of the week.> > > > Another difficult placement involves both natal and transit L2 Sun,> with transit Sun also coming under a close aspect of transit L8> Saturn. The maleficience of Saturn is greater as it is at the same> time suffering under a long standing and close aspect of transit L6> Jupiter. This means the Sun's functional indications of wealth, status> and close relationships and general indications of the leader of the> country will come under increased pressure in the next few days. > > > > At the same time, the nodes, while seperating

from the exact> conjunction with the H8 and H2 MEP, are coming into closer aspect of> the natal nodes in H4 and H10. This adds to the overall strain. With > transit L4 Venus also in H12, this would undermines the communal harmony.> > > > In short, the energy of the sub-period lord, Jupiter, is being felt> in many areas and it is also moving closer to the MEP of H5 in coming> weeks. Hence, the stock market could feel the impact. The role of> mysterious karma is such that it can bring an event that is totally> unexpected and one that creates a shock. This is what I think could> happen in the USA this week.> > > > I�d be interested in the view of , Vyas Munidas> and other list members on this reading. In any event, we will soon see> what coming days bring.>

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Dear Thor:I did not ask you to shut up. I made a humble request. As far else you are rightthis is not an investment advisory board. Everybody should use his judgement.Raj Chadhacosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Hello Raj, First let me say that on this forum we expect list members to treat each other with a modicum respect. No one is told to shut up because certain predictions haven´t panned out. That is a ground rule on the SA lists, we are free to go out on a limb and test new charts. As

this list is for learning SA in the mundane sphere, including doing research based on tentative charts for different countries, we will certainly continue to enjoy the freedom to comment on charts under study and concerning any area of interest to the list members, including the stock market. Please be advised that this list is not a service for investors but a forum for mundane astrologers to conduct an ongoing investigation into the merits of respective charts. I would be surprised if investors were so child like to base their decisions on such research work. So, first and last, we are here to learn the application of SA astrology in the mundane sphere. Is that clear to you? As for your claims, you are welcome to make them. But on this list we uphold the scientific approach to predictions. They need to be based on astrological factors with reference to a given chart. We do not accept any claims that have no

such logical approach or transparency. You have made one prediction with respect to a chart (2.17 AM on July 4, 1776 in Philadelpia). There are two things that make me sceptical. First, you have yourself raised questions about the historical legitimacy of the particular chart you are using. Despite that you continue to use it as it has given you "stellar results for the past ten years". Importantly, this is a claim by you that has not been proven to SAMVA list members. Second, you have not, as of yet at least, shown any astrological analysis as a basis for your recent or new predictions. To conclude, until you demonstrate predictive accuracy based on a prior presentation of the astrological factors, you cannot expect to be taken seriously here. That said, you are free to discuss more fully your chart here, including the basis of your predictions. We can then examine the chart and the analysis more carefully

with respect to the events in the time frame of a given prediction. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote: > > Dear Thor, David and others: > > Could you please not comment on stock markets. You may be 100% correct on other things based on SAMVA chart, but certainly not on stock market. > > Based on my studies with the help of SA, I see that the period from now to July 2008, is going to be very productive. It does not mean that there will not be corrections. But those who will buy or add on corrections will be amply rewarded. > Your enthusiasm to prove your chart is not good at this time for the investors. > > Thanks > > Raj Chadha > > cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear

friends, > > More bad news for the US economy. First, Walmart, the biggest US > retailer announces their worst slaes ever. Second, former Fed > chairman Alan Greenspan reiterates his view that there is a one-in- > three chance of a recession in the USA this year. He also issues a > warning about share prices in Asia. Yesterday, the US stock market > fell the most in two months, 1.1%-1.5%.This is in line with my > prediction on the basis of the SAMVA USA chart that the economic and > financial developments towards the end of this week would be adverse. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Wal-Mart posts worst sales ever as US retail figures slump > Friday May 11, 2007, The Guardian, David Teather > > Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, yesterday posted its worst > monthly sales figures since its records began in

1980. > The company said same store sales fell 3.5% in April on the same > month a year ago. Same store sales measure the performance of stores > that have been open for at least 12 months. > > But Wal-Mart was not the only US retailer turning in a poor > performance in April, triggering fears that the US housing slump > might be spilling over into consumer spending and that the economy > might be taking a turn for the worse. > > Greenspan Sees a One-Third Chance of U.S. Recession (Update6) > > By Shamim Adam > > May 11 (Bloomberg) -- Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan > said he still sees a one-third chance of a recession in the U.S. > economy this year, as consumption eases and the housing market slows. > > A ``mild recovery'' in the second quarter is not very strong, > according to a recording

of Greenspan's comments today to a > conference hosted by Merrill Lynch & Co. in Singapore obtained by > Bloomberg News. > > ``There is no doubt there is a slowdown going on the U.S.,'' > Greenspan said via satellite from Washington. ``We are clearly having > troubles in the capital investment area, as well as potentially in > the consumption area and obviously housing being a significant > drag.'' > > The U.S. stock market yesterday tumbled the most in almost two months > after falling retail sales, higher import prices and a wider trade > deficit heightened concern the economy will slow. U.S. policy makers > on May 9 kept the benchmark interest rate at 5.25 percent and said > inflation is the biggest risk facing the economy despite a yearlong > slowdown. > > In March, Greenspan said there was a ``one-third

probability'' of a > recession this year and the current expansion wouldn't have the > staying power of its decade-long predecessor. Greenspan in late > February predicted that U.S. economic growth might stagnate, a view > at odds with those of Ben S. Bernanke, his successor, and other Fed > officials. > > `Algebraic Implications' > > ``At the moment, I still say as I said before, by algebraic > implications, the odds are 2 to 1 we won't have a recession,'' > Greenspan said today. > > China should allow the yuan, or renminbi, to appreciate a ``lot > faster'' than it has been, Greenspan said. The central bank has > allowed the currency to rise 7.7 percent since China scrapped a > dollar peg in July 2005. > > China's currency reserves are the world's largest and accumulated in > part through purchases

of dollar-denominated U.S. Treasuries done to > temper yuan appreciation. The reserves rose to a record $1.2 trillion > at the end of March. > > ``Unless the intervention into the foreign exchange market comes to a > halt, which is another way of saying that they'll allow the renminbi > to rise, they would find it at some point, extremely difficult to > handle the imbalance problem,'' Greenspan said. ``They cannot do this > indefinitely without very serious consequences.'' > > Patriotic Investors > > Greenspan said patriotic Japanese investing in the nation's bonds > were keeping yields low, making the yen an attractive currency in > which to borrow to invest in higher yielding assets, known as the > carry trade. The trade has helped to push Japan's currency to a 21- > year low against its trading partners. > >

``Patriotism isn't the reason Japanese investors are buying > government bonds,'' said Kazuhiko Sano, chief strategist at Tokyo- > based Nikko Citigroup Ltd., the fifth-largest buyer at government > debt auctions. ``It's because they are not taking a risk on currency > fluctuations and volatility in the market, which is quite > reasonable.'' > > Asia is more likely to suffer from ``asset-related'' problems than a > repeat of the 1997-98 financial crisis that depleted the region's > foreign-exchange reserves, Greenspan said. China's CSI 300 Index has > climbed 49 percent since its 9 percent slump on Feb. 27 triggered a > global stock market rout. > > Increased bank lending and money inflows from overseas have created > property asset bubbles in South Korea and India, making Seoul the > world's second-priciest city and Mumbai

apartments cost as much as > Manhattan's. > > ``It's hard to imagine the U.S. economy going into recession, when > the Fed keeps rates so low,'' Sano said. > > Asian Exports > > Southeast Asia's export-dependent economies will be hurt by a > slowdown in U.S. consumption, Greenspan said. Still, higher domestic > spending may to limit any impact of declining overseas sales, he > said. > > ``There is no question if consumption in the U.S. slows down, you'll > find that exports in Southeast Asia will slow down somewhat,'' he > said. ``Overall, Asia and specifically, the developing world is > moving at twice the pace of the developed world and as the > extraordinarily high savings rate begins to be employed domestically, > part of that will be offset.'' > > His comments support the conclusion drawn by

Asian finance ministers > attending the Asian Development Bank's annual meeting in Kyoto this > month. > > Asia will withstand a slowdown in the U.S. and Europe this year, > driven by expansion in China and India, the two fastest- growing > major economies in the world, the region's finance ministers said. > > The ADB in March raised its forecast for the region's developing > economies this year, citing a pick-up in spending by consumers and > companies that will cushion the impact of weaker overseas sales. > > ``While a moderate slowdown is expected this year in the U.S. and the > European Union, I believe China and India will continue to be the > driving forces of the world economy,'' said South Korean Finance > Minister Kwon Okyu. > > SAMVA ,

"cosmologer" <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > U.S. Stocks Tumble Most in 2 Months on Slowing Economy Concern > > By Michael Patterson > > > > May 10 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. stock market tumbled the most in > almost > > two months after falling retail sales, higher import prices and a > > wider trade deficit heightened concern the economy will slow. > > > > Financial shares, led by Citigroup Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co., > > dragged the Standard & Poor's 500 Index from its highest in six > years > > and the Dow Jones Industrial Average from a record on concern a > weaker > > economy will curb loan demand. Federated Department Stores Inc., > owner > > of the Macy's chain, posted its biggest drop in seven months, while > > Nordstrom Inc., the Seattle- based chain of 98

department stores, > fell > > to a month low. > > > > The trade gap widened more than analysts forecast in March on higher > > oil imports, spurring expectations the government may reduce its > > first-quarter gross domestic product estimate. The Commerce > Department > > report came a day after the Federal Reserve kept its benchmark > > interest rate unchanged and said inflation remains a bigger threat > > than slower growth. > > > > ``The Fed's pretty much on hold, and yet the economy is slowing,'' > > said Edward Hemmelgarn, who oversees about $400 million as president > > of Shaker Investments Inc. in Cleveland. ``These are the fears that > > are causing people to sell off.'' > > > > The S & P 500 fell 21.11, or 1.4 percent, to 1491.47, its steepest > drop > >

since March 13. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 147.74, or 1.1 > > percent, to 13,215.13. The Nasdaq Composite Index decreased 42.60, > or > > 1.7 percent, to 2533.74. > > > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > There are a few placements in the SAMVA USA chart that warrant > > attention in coming days. Please see the attached gif file. Tomorrow > > on May 8: > > > > > > - L3 Mercury enters H11 and enters into opposition aspect with > > sub-period lord Jupiter as L6. Mercury as lord of the third house is > > the indicator of both courage and confidence in the chart. It is > also > > the general indicator of commerce. Hence, the influence on

the stock > > market should at long last be felt. > > > - L10 Mars enters H9 and also enters into the aspect of natal > > Jupiter. Mars is also an indicator of confidence and courage. > > > > > > While both planets are in good houses, the aspect of the sub- > period > > lord would indicate that the conflict that has marked US society for > > some months now will have an effect to reduce the confidences and > > spirits of investors - and the more so as this aspect becomes closer > > towards the end of the week. > > > > > > Another difficult placement involves both natal and transit L2 > Sun, > > with transit Sun also coming under a close aspect of transit L8 > > Saturn. The maleficience of Saturn is greater as it is at the same > > time suffering under a long standing and close aspect

of transit L6 > > Jupiter. This means the Sun's functional indications of wealth, > status > > and close relationships and general indications of the leader of the > > country will come under increased pressure in the next few days. > > > > > > At the same time, the nodes, while seperating from the exact > > conjunction with the H8 and H2 MEP, are coming into closer aspect of > > the natal nodes in H4 and H10. This adds to the overall strain. > With > > transit L4 Venus also in H12, this would undermines the communal > harmony. > > > > > > In short, the energy of the sub-period lord, Jupiter, is being > felt > > in many areas and it is also moving closer to the MEP of H5 in > coming > > weeks. Hence, the stock market could feel the impact. The role of > > mysterious

karma is such that it can bring an event that is totally > > unexpected and one that creates a shock. This is what I think could > > happen in the USA this week. > > > > > > I�d be interested in the view of , Vyas > Munidas > > and other list members on this reading. In any event, we will soon > see > > what coming days bring. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fish are biting. > > > Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Dear list members,

 

Last weekend I made a prediction for this week based on the SAMVA USA

chart. Based on the failure of predictions about the stock market by

me this Spring, Vyas Munidas recently proposed that it was not a

matter of the chart being wrong but the interpretation by me. Further

he said,

 

" In this chart for instance, if Mercury, or it's MTH/natal house were

afflicted AND the 5H, surely we will see the problem to the SM very

acutely; it would be the perfect yard stick. "

 

David Hawthorne has earlier pointed out the important role of Mercury

with respect to the stock market.

 

It was based on this insight that I made the following statement last

weekend for this week, especially towards the close of it:

 

" L3 Mercury enters H11 and enters into opposition aspect with

sub-period lord Jupiter as L6. Mercury as lord of the third house is

the indicator of both courage and confidence in the chart. It is

also the general indicator of commerce. Hence, the influence on the

stock market should at long last be felt. "

 

So, Thursday 10 May saw the largest correction in two months and a

partial recovery as of today, 11 May. There were also bad news about

the economy. However, the recovery today may owe to investors assuming

the news increases the likelihood of a rate cut by the Fed. In any

event, such explicit predictions and their monitoring are all

important for the evaluation of this (and any other) chart.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> More bad news for the US economy. First, Walmart, the biggest US

> retailer announces their worst slaes ever. Second, former Fed

> chairman Alan Greenspan reiterates his view that there is a one-in-

> three chance of a recession in the USA this year. He also issues a

> warning about share prices in Asia. Yesterday, the US stock market

> fell the most in two months, 1.1%-1.5%.This is in line with my

> prediction on the basis of the SAMVA USA chart that the economic and

> financial developments towards the end of this week would be adverse.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

> Wal-Mart posts worst sales ever as US retail figures slump

> Friday May 11, 2007, The Guardian, David Teather

>

> Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, yesterday posted its worst

> monthly sales figures since its records began in 1980.

> The company said same store sales fell 3.5% in April on the same

> month a year ago. Same store sales measure the performance of stores

> that have been open for at least 12 months.

>

> But Wal-Mart was not the only US retailer turning in a poor

> performance in April, triggering fears that the US housing slump

> might be spilling over into consumer spending and that the economy

> might be taking a turn for the worse.

>

>

> Greenspan Sees a One-Third Chance of U.S. Recession (Update6)

>

> By Shamim Adam

>

> May 11 (Bloomberg) -- Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan

> said he still sees a one-third chance of a recession in the U.S.

> economy this year, as consumption eases and the housing market slows.

>

> A ``mild recovery'' in the second quarter is not very strong,

> according to a recording of Greenspan's comments today to a

> conference hosted by Merrill Lynch & Co. in Singapore obtained by

> Bloomberg News.

>

> ``There is no doubt there is a slowdown going on the U.S.,''

> Greenspan said via satellite from Washington. ``We are clearly having

> troubles in the capital investment area, as well as potentially in

> the consumption area and obviously housing being a significant

> drag.''

>

> The U.S. stock market yesterday tumbled the most in almost two months

> after falling retail sales, higher import prices and a wider trade

> deficit heightened concern the economy will slow. U.S. policy makers

> on May 9 kept the benchmark interest rate at 5.25 percent and said

> inflation is the biggest risk facing the economy despite a yearlong

> slowdown.

>

> In March, Greenspan said there was a ``one-third probability'' of a

> recession this year and the current expansion wouldn't have the

> staying power of its decade-long predecessor. Greenspan in late

> February predicted that U.S. economic growth might stagnate, a view

> at odds with those of Ben S. Bernanke, his successor, and other Fed

> officials.

>

> `Algebraic Implications'

>

> ``At the moment, I still say as I said before, by algebraic

> implications, the odds are 2 to 1 we won't have a recession,''

> Greenspan said today.

>

> China should allow the yuan, or renminbi, to appreciate a ``lot

> faster'' than it has been, Greenspan said. The central bank has

> allowed the currency to rise 7.7 percent since China scrapped a

> dollar peg in July 2005.

>

> China's currency reserves are the world's largest and accumulated in

> part through purchases of dollar-denominated U.S. Treasuries done to

> temper yuan appreciation. The reserves rose to a record $1.2 trillion

> at the end of March.

>

> ``Unless the intervention into the foreign exchange market comes to a

> halt, which is another way of saying that they'll allow the renminbi

> to rise, they would find it at some point, extremely difficult to

> handle the imbalance problem,'' Greenspan said. ``They cannot do this

> indefinitely without very serious consequences.''

>

> Patriotic Investors

>

> Greenspan said patriotic Japanese investing in the nation's bonds

> were keeping yields low, making the yen an attractive currency in

> which to borrow to invest in higher yielding assets, known as the

> carry trade. The trade has helped to push Japan's currency to a 21-

> year low against its trading partners.

>

> ``Patriotism isn't the reason Japanese investors are buying

> government bonds,'' said Kazuhiko Sano, chief strategist at Tokyo-

> based Nikko Citigroup Ltd., the fifth-largest buyer at government

> debt auctions. ``It's because they are not taking a risk on currency

> fluctuations and volatility in the market, which is quite

> reasonable.''

>

> Asia is more likely to suffer from ``asset-related'' problems than a

> repeat of the 1997-98 financial crisis that depleted the region's

> foreign-exchange reserves, Greenspan said. China's CSI 300 Index has

> climbed 49 percent since its 9 percent slump on Feb. 27 triggered a

> global stock market rout.

>

> Increased bank lending and money inflows from overseas have created

> property asset bubbles in South Korea and India, making Seoul the

> world's second-priciest city and Mumbai apartments cost as much as

> Manhattan's.

>

> ``It's hard to imagine the U.S. economy going into recession, when

> the Fed keeps rates so low,'' Sano said.

>

> Asian Exports

>

> Southeast Asia's export-dependent economies will be hurt by a

> slowdown in U.S. consumption, Greenspan said. Still, higher domestic

> spending may to limit any impact of declining overseas sales, he

> said.

>

> ``There is no question if consumption in the U.S. slows down, you'll

> find that exports in Southeast Asia will slow down somewhat,'' he

> said. ``Overall, Asia and specifically, the developing world is

> moving at twice the pace of the developed world and as the

> extraordinarily high savings rate begins to be employed domestically,

> part of that will be offset.''

>

> His comments support the conclusion drawn by Asian finance ministers

> attending the Asian Development Bank's annual meeting in Kyoto this

> month.

>

> Asia will withstand a slowdown in the U.S. and Europe this year,

> driven by expansion in China and India, the two fastest- growing

> major economies in the world, the region's finance ministers said.

>

> The ADB in March raised its forecast for the region's developing

> economies this year, citing a pick-up in spending by consumers and

> companies that will cushion the impact of weaker overseas sales.

>

> ``While a moderate slowdown is expected this year in the U.S. and the

> European Union, I believe China and India will continue to be the

> driving forces of the world economy,'' said South Korean Finance

> Minister Kwon Okyu.

>

>

>

> SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote:

> >

> > U.S. Stocks Tumble Most in 2 Months on Slowing Economy Concern

> > By Michael Patterson

> >

> > May 10 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. stock market tumbled the most in

> almost

> > two months after falling retail sales, higher import prices and a

> > wider trade deficit heightened concern the economy will slow.

> >

> > Financial shares, led by Citigroup Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co.,

> > dragged the Standard & Poor's 500 Index from its highest in six

> years

> > and the Dow Jones Industrial Average from a record on concern a

> weaker

> > economy will curb loan demand. Federated Department Stores Inc.,

> owner

> > of the Macy's chain, posted its biggest drop in seven months, while

> > Nordstrom Inc., the Seattle- based chain of 98 department stores,

> fell

> > to a month low.

> >

> > The trade gap widened more than analysts forecast in March on higher

> > oil imports, spurring expectations the government may reduce its

> > first-quarter gross domestic product estimate. The Commerce

> Department

> > report came a day after the Federal Reserve kept its benchmark

> > interest rate unchanged and said inflation remains a bigger threat

> > than slower growth.

> >

> > ``The Fed's pretty much on hold, and yet the economy is slowing,''

> > said Edward Hemmelgarn, who oversees about $400 million as president

> > of Shaker Investments Inc. in Cleveland. ``These are the fears that

> > are causing people to sell off.''

> >

> > The S & P 500 fell 21.11, or 1.4 percent, to 1491.47, its steepest

> drop

> > since March 13. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 147.74, or 1.1

> > percent, to 13,215.13. The Nasdaq Composite Index decreased 42.60,

> or

> > 1.7 percent, to 2533.74.

> >

> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friends,

> > >

> > > There are a few placements in the SAMVA USA chart that warrant

> > attention in coming days. Please see the attached gif file. Tomorrow

> > on May 8:

> > >

> > > - L3 Mercury enters H11 and enters into opposition aspect with

> > sub-period lord Jupiter as L6. Mercury as lord of the third house is

> > the indicator of both courage and confidence in the chart. It is

> also

> > the general indicator of commerce. Hence, the influence on the stock

> > market should at long last be felt.

> > > - L10 Mars enters H9 and also enters into the aspect of natal

> > Jupiter. Mars is also an indicator of confidence and courage.

> > >

> > > While both planets are in good houses, the aspect of the sub-

> period

> > lord would indicate that the conflict that has marked US society for

> > some months now will have an effect to reduce the confidences and

> > spirits of investors - and the more so as this aspect becomes closer

> > towards the end of the week.

> > >

> > > Another difficult placement involves both natal and transit L2

> Sun,

> > with transit Sun also coming under a close aspect of transit L8

> > Saturn. The maleficience of Saturn is greater as it is at the same

> > time suffering under a long standing and close aspect of transit L6

> > Jupiter. This means the Sun's functional indications of wealth,

> status

> > and close relationships and general indications of the leader of the

> > country will come under increased pressure in the next few days.

> > >

> > > At the same time, the nodes, while seperating from the exact

> > conjunction with the H8 and H2 MEP, are coming into closer aspect of

> > the natal nodes in H4 and H10. This adds to the overall strain.

> With

> > transit L4 Venus also in H12, this would undermines the communal

> harmony.

> > >

> > > In short, the energy of the sub-period lord, Jupiter, is being

> felt

> > in many areas and it is also moving closer to the MEP of H5 in

> coming

> > weeks. Hence, the stock market could feel the impact. The role of

> > mysterious karma is such that it can bring an event that is totally

> > unexpected and one that creates a shock. This is what I think could

> > happen in the USA this week.

> > >

> > > I�d be interested in the view of , Vyas

> Munidas

> > and other list members on this reading. In any event, we will soon

> see

> > what coming days bring.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Thor

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The fish are biting.

> > > Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing.

> > >

> >

>

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