Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Hello my dear Thor, Dr. Bhagvadpada, and list members who took interest in the subject article. There were following comments on the article: Delete as per nom Maustrauser 11:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC) I have added following comments to the page: Comment: The norm is to list the knowledge used by many in the Encyclopedia. The article is popular through books published in India, Book published in US, and the books listed above besides referred to in number of magazines including the Magazine - The Mountain Astrologer in USA around August, 2003, and through a titled article published in the February, 2007, issue of the Express Star Teller Magazine, Chennai India. Keep or Delete decision does not make any difference to the article but it certainly puts humanity and those following learning of astrology in systematic way to loss. (1)The so called rationalists and persons with scientific temper would be appreciated more when they behave like such persons by knowing about the subject they are discussing in the first place in stead of just assuming things like ignorant persons. (2) Wikipedia acts like a pole on which the sources of light like the article under discussion can be installed. (3) On health front the knowledge of celestial bodies helps in identifying the vulnerability of a person to fatal diseases for which one can take preventive care. The various systems of medicines only help in detecting and managing the diseases. (4) The light is light and it does not require any other source to confirm that it is light. It is true to the knowledge of astrology and those who study/use this knowledge know its utility.Siha 18:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC) I think there is following note from the Management of the Wikipedia: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page. For your information please. Best wishes. www.YourNetAstrologer.comwww.JyotishRemedies121.comA-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018, (India).Phones: 91 124 - 2219240Mobile 98110 16333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Dear Professor and List Members, SA article was deleted from Wikipedia. Personally, yesterday, when I went in to post on Wiki, I was feeling a bit irked at the ignorance of people but then it does not matter, whether Wikipedia has it or not, because the concept of validating a source by citing a secondary source is funny and ridiculous, its all good. Regards Amit SAMVA , <siha wrote: > > > Hello my dear Thor, Dr. Bhagvadpada, and list members who took interest in the subject article. > > There were following comments on the article: > > a.. Delete as per nom Maustrauser 11:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC) > > I have added following comments to the page: > > Comment: The norm is to list the knowledge used by many in the Encyclopedia. The article is popular through books published in India, Book published in US, and the books listed above besides referred to in number of magazines including the Magazine - The Mountain Astrologer in USA around August, 2003, and through a titled article published in the February, 2007, issue of the Express Star Teller Magazine, Chennai India. > > Keep or Delete decision does not make any difference to the article but it certainly puts humanity and those following learning of astrology in systematic way to loss. > > (1)The so called rationalists and persons with scientific temper would be appreciated more when they behave like such persons by knowing about the subject they are discussing in the first place in stead of just assuming things like ignorant persons. > > (2) Wikipedia acts like a pole on which the sources of light like the article under discussion can be installed. > > (3) On health front the knowledge of celestial bodies helps in identifying the vulnerability of a person to fatal diseases for which one can take preventive care. The various systems of medicines only help in detecting and managing the diseases. > > (4) The light is light and it does not require any other source to confirm that it is light. It is true to the knowledge of astrology and those who study/use this knowledge know its utility.Siha 18:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC) > > I think there is following note from the Management of the Wikipedia: > > The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page. > > For your information please. > > > Best wishes. > > > www.YourNetAstrologer.com > www.JyotishRemedies121.com > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018, (India). > Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 > Mobile 98110 16333 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Hi Amit (and List), Present karma does not allow everyone to access divine branches of knowledge.. Yes, ludicrous; I share your view. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " amit_patnaik6 " <amit_patnaik6 <SAMVA > Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:02 PM Re: Article on SA at Wikipedia Dear Professor and List Members, SA article was deleted from Wikipedia. Personally, yesterday, when I went in to post on Wiki, I was feeling a bit irked at the ignorance of people but then it does not matter, whether Wikipedia has it or not, because the concept of validating a source by citing a secondary source is funny and ridiculous, its all good. Regards Amit SAMVA , <siha wrote: > > > Hello my dear Thor, Dr. Bhagvadpada, and list members who took interest in the subject article. > > There were following comments on the article: > > a.. Delete as per nom Maustrauser 11:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC) > > I have added following comments to the page: > > Comment: The norm is to list the knowledge used by many in the Encyclopedia. The article is popular through books published in India, Book published in US, and the books listed above besides referred to in number of magazines including the Magazine - The Mountain Astrologer in USA around August, 2003, and through a titled article published in the February, 2007, issue of the Express Star Teller Magazine, Chennai India. > > Keep or Delete decision does not make any difference to the article but it certainly puts humanity and those following learning of astrology in systematic way to loss. > > (1)The so called rationalists and persons with scientific temper would be appreciated more when they behave like such persons by knowing about the subject they are discussing in the first place in stead of just assuming things like ignorant persons. > > (2) Wikipedia acts like a pole on which the sources of light like the article under discussion can be installed. > > (3) On health front the knowledge of celestial bodies helps in identifying the vulnerability of a person to fatal diseases for which one can take preventive care. The various systems of medicines only help in detecting and managing the diseases. > > (4) The light is light and it does not require any other source to confirm that it is light. It is true to the knowledge of astrology and those who study/use this knowledge know its utility.Siha 18:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC) > > I think there is following note from the Management of the Wikipedia: > > The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page. > > For your information please. > > > Best wishes. > > > www.YourNetAstrologer.com > www.JyotishRemedies121.com > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018, (India). > Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 > Mobile 98110 16333 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Hello dear Amit, SA does not require Wikipedia. It is better to save our energy. Best wishes. - " amit_patnaik6 " <amit_patnaik6 <SAMVA > Friday, May 11, 2007 12:32 AM Re: Article on SA at Wikipedia | | Dear Professor and List Members, | | SA article was deleted from Wikipedia. Personally, yesterday, when I | went in to post on Wiki, I was feeling a bit irked at the ignorance | of people but then it does not matter, whether Wikipedia has it or | not, because the concept of validating a source by citing a secondary | source is funny and ridiculous, its all good. | | Regards | Amit | | SAMVA , <siha wrote: | > | > | > Hello my dear Thor, Dr. Bhagvadpada, and list members who took | interest in the subject article. | > | > There were following comments on the article: | > | > a.. Delete as per nom Maustrauser 11:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC) | > | > I have added following comments to the page: | > | > Comment: The norm is to list the knowledge used by many in the | Encyclopedia. The article is popular through books published in | India, Book published in US, and the books listed above besides | referred to in number of magazines including the Magazine - The | Mountain Astrologer in USA around August, 2003, and through a titled | article published in the February, 2007, issue of the Express Star | Teller Magazine, Chennai India. | > | > Keep or Delete decision does not make any difference to the article | but it certainly puts humanity and those following learning of | astrology in systematic way to loss. | > | > (1)The so called rationalists and persons with scientific temper | would be appreciated more when they behave like such persons by | knowing about the subject they are discussing in the first place in | stead of just assuming things like ignorant persons. | > | > (2) Wikipedia acts like a pole on which the sources of light like | the article under discussion can be installed. | > | > (3) On health front the knowledge of celestial bodies helps in | identifying the vulnerability of a person to fatal diseases for which | one can take preventive care. The various systems of medicines only | help in detecting and managing the diseases. | > | > (4) The light is light and it does not require any other source to | confirm that it is light. It is true to the knowledge of astrology | and those who study/use this knowledge know its utility.Siha 18:43, | 10 May 2007 (UTC) | > | > I think there is following note from the Management of the | Wikipedia: | > | > The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. | Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the | appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a | deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page. | > | > For your information please. | > | > | > Best wishes. | > | > | > www.YourNetAstrologer.com | > www.JyotishRemedies121.com | > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018, (India). | > Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 | > Mobile 98110 16333 | > | | | | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 My dear Prof.Choudhry,Thor and SA Astrologers Namasthe.Thanks for conveying the last part of the debate and your comments.From what Amit has reported, it is sad that an opportunity for SA becoming available to many sincere seekers of Astrological truth[especially from the English-speaking world] has now been lost - because of this decision.In any case, 'Truth will triumph', especially where there are sincere people to work for the same.I do not know how to offer my profound gratitude to you- for the Vedic Astrological knowledge, you have given us all.May the SA fraternity take the SA forward in yet new ways! Warm Regards Sankara - siha SAMVA Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:38 PM Article on SA at Wikipedia Hello my dear Thor, Dr. Bhagvadpada, and list members who took interest in the subject article. There were following comments on the article: Delete as per nom Maustrauser 11:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC) I have added following comments to the page: Comment: The norm is to list the knowledge used by many in the Encyclopedia. The article is popular through books published in India, Book published in US, and the books listed above besides referred to in number of magazines including the Magazine - The Mountain Astrologer in USA around August, 2003, and through a titled article published in the February, 2007, issue of the Express Star Teller Magazine, Chennai India. Keep or Delete decision does not make any difference to the article but it certainly puts humanity and those following learning of astrology in systematic way to loss. (1)The so called rationalists and persons with scientific temper would be appreciated more when they behave like such persons by knowing about the subject they are discussing in the first place in stead of just assuming things like ignorant persons. (2) Wikipedia acts like a pole on which the sources of light like the article under discussion can be installed. (3) On health front the knowledge of celestial bodies helps in identifying the vulnerability of a person to fatal diseases for which one can take preventive care. The various systems of medicines only help in detecting and managing the diseases. (4) The light is light and it does not require any other source to confirm that it is light. It is true to the knowledge of astrology and those who study/use this knowledge know its utility.Siha 18:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC) I think there is following note from the Management of the Wikipedia: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page. For your information please. Best wishes. www.YourNetAstrologer.comwww.JyotishRemedies121.comA-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018, (India).Phones: 91 124 - 2219240Mobile 98110 16333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Hello dear Dr. Bhagavadpada, I appreciate your concern. Please be sure, no opportunity is lost. To test the effectiveness of the Groups on , MSN and Google I had set up groups when SATVA101 was started. While SATVA101 is now having a mebership of about 700, none of other groups have membership of even 30. The reason is that I promote SATVA101 on my website. Best wishes. - SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA SAMVA Friday, May 11, 2007 6:34 AM Re: Article on SA at Wikipedia My dear Prof.Choudhry,Thor and SA Astrologers Namasthe.Thanks for conveying the last part of the debate and your comments.From what Amit has reported, it is sad that an opportunity for SA becoming available to many sincere seekers of Astrological truth[especially from the English-speaking world] has now been lost - because of this decision.In any case, 'Truth will triumph', especially where there are sincere people to work for the same.I do not know how to offer my profound gratitude to you- for the Vedic Astrological knowledge, you have given us all.May the SA fraternity take the SA forward in yet new ways! Warm Regards Sankara - siha SAMVA Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:38 PM Article on SA at Wikipedia Hello my dear Thor, Dr. Bhagvadpada, and list members who took interest in the subject article. There were following comments on the article: Delete as per nom Maustrauser 11:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC) I have added following comments to the page: Comment: The norm is to list the knowledge used by many in the Encyclopedia. The article is popular through books published in India, Book published in US, and the books listed above besides referred to in number of magazines including the Magazine - The Mountain Astrologer in USA around August, 2003, and through a titled article published in the February, 2007, issue of the Express Star Teller Magazine, Chennai India. Keep or Delete decision does not make any difference to the article but it certainly puts humanity and those following learning of astrology in systematic way to loss. (1)The so called rationalists and persons with scientific temper would be appreciated more when they behave like such persons by knowing about the subject they are discussing in the first place in stead of just assuming things like ignorant persons. (2) Wikipedia acts like a pole on which the sources of light like the article under discussion can be installed. (3) On health front the knowledge of celestial bodies helps in identifying the vulnerability of a person to fatal diseases for which one can take preventive care. The various systems of medicines only help in detecting and managing the diseases. (4) The light is light and it does not require any other source to confirm that it is light. It is true to the knowledge of astrology and those who study/use this knowledge know its utility.Siha 18:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC) I think there is following note from the Management of the Wikipedia: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page. For your information please. Best wishes. www.YourNetAstrologer.comwww.JyotishRemedies121.comA-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018, (India).Phones: 91 124 - 2219240Mobile 98110 16333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 the divine play just goes on & on we only want what we want and thats only SA in here they only want what they want and thats no SA in there just got a thought: it seems there must be something in SA & Wiki charts which must be conflicting. any ideas anyone ? my ideas may sound stupid but thats how i learnt rithmetic and riting anyway LOL ciao Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Hi Amit (and List),Present karma does not allow everyone to access divine branches of knowledge..Yes, ludicrous; I share your view.Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "amit_patnaik6" To: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:02 PM Re: Article on SA at WikipediaDear Professor and List Members,SA article was deleted from Wikipedia. Personally, yesterday, when Iwent in to post on Wiki, I was feeling a bit irked at the ignoranceof people but then it does not matter, whether Wikipedia has it ornot, because the concept of validating a source by citing a secondarysource is funny and ridiculous, its all good.RegardsAmitSAMVA , wrote:>>> Hello my dear Thor, Dr. Bhagvadpada, and list members who tookinterest in the subject article.>> There were following comments on the article:>> a.. Delete as per nom Maustrauser 11:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC)>> I have added following comments to the page:>> Comment: The norm is to list the knowledge used by many in theEncyclopedia. The article is popular through books published inIndia, Book published in US, and the books listed above besidesreferred to in number of magazines including the Magazine - TheMountain Astrologer in USA around August, 2003, and through a titledarticle published in the February, 2007, issue of the Express StarTeller Magazine, Chennai India.>> Keep or Delete decision does not make any difference to the articlebut it certainly puts humanity and those following learning ofastrology in systematic way to loss.>> (1)The so called rationalists and persons with scientific temperwould be appreciated more when they behave like such persons byknowing about the subject they are discussing in the first place instead of just assuming things like ignorant persons.>> (2) Wikipedia acts like a pole on which the sources of light likethe article under discussion can be installed.>> (3) On health front the knowledge of celestial bodies helps inidentifying the vulnerability of a person to fatal diseases for whichone can take preventive care. The various systems of medicines onlyhelp in detecting and managing the diseases.>> (4) The light is light and it does not require any other source toconfirm that it is light. It is true to the knowledge of astrologyand those who study/use this knowledge know its utility.Siha 18:43,10 May 2007 (UTC)>> I think there is following note from the Management of theWikipedia:>> The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on theappropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in adeletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.>> For your information please.>>> Best wishes.>> > www.YourNetAstrologer.com> www.JyotishRemedies121.com> A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018, (India).> Phones: 91 124 - 2219240> Mobile 98110 16333> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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