Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Dear Thor: Thank you for this information regarding Minnesota's proposed chart ... it's very interesting ... and my thanks to Jorge for his time and knowledge put into the MN chart ... Best Wishes, Mew SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > > Dear Mew, > > Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota by Jorge Angelino. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> wrote: > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > > > > > This is the rectified chart of: > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT > > > > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57 > > > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA > > > > > > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord > > > > ================================================ > > > > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke > > > > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su > > > > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke > > > > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa > > > > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su > > > > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su > > > > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo > > > > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju > > > > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju > > > > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve > > > > > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats > > > > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM > > > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi > > > > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su > > > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag > > > > > > > > Rashi Chart > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > ** 6 * * 4 ** > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * SA 01:38* * > > > > * * * AS 07:14 * * * > > > > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > ** * * JU 04:50 ** > > > > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 * > > > > ** * * ** > > > > *9 * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * MO 07:01* > > > > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49* > > > > * * * * * MER29:29* > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > ** 10 * * 12 ** > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > Navamsha > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > ** 4 * * 2 ** > > > > *5 * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * SA * RA * * > > > > * * * AS * * * > > > > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 * > > > > * * * VE * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > ** * * ** > > > > *6 * 12 * > > > > ** * * ** > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * SU * * * > > > > * * 9 MER * 11 JU * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * KE * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > ** 8 * * 10 ** > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > Admitted > > > > May 11, 1858 > > > > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of the Minnesota > River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First European Permanent > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; Administrative Divisions: 87 > Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; Electoral Votes: 10 > > > > HYPERLINK > " http://www.amendment-13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment- 13.org/statehood.html > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 †" 1858), state > capital (1858 †" current) > > > > HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_an d_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states > > > > > > > > Minnesota Disaster History > > > > > > > > Major Disaster Declarations > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622 > > > > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569 > > > > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419 > > > > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370 > > > > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333 > > > > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains 1288 > > > > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283 > > > > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds And Tornadoes 1225 > > > > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212 > > > > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187 > > > > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175 > > > > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158 > > > > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151 > > > > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116 > > > > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078 > > > > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding, > Tornadoes, Heat 1064 > > > > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993 > > > > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946 > > > > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929 > > > > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824 > > > > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797 > > > > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582 > > > > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560 > > > > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555 > > > > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476 > > > > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473 > > > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446 > > > > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440 > > > > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350 > > > > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > > > > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291 > > > > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268 > > > > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255 > > > > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250 > > > > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249 > > > > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215 > > > > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188 > > > > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80 > > > > > > > > Emergency Declarations > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242 > > > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013 > > > > > > > > Fire Management Assistance Declarations > > > > Year Date Incident Disaster Number > > > > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409 > > > > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345 > > > > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024 > > > > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023 > > > > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022 > > > > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021 > > > > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020 > > > > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019 > > > > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018 > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema? id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27 > > > > > > > > Earthquake History of Minnesota > > > > > > > > Western Minnesota > > > > 1975 07 09 14:54:21.3 UTC > > > > Magnitude 5.0 > > > > Intensity VI > > > > > > > > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in 1860. Although > the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in the central > part of the State. Very little information is available about this > earthquake. > > > > > > > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook the central part of > Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects were noted > at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30 miles east > of Staples. > > > > > > > > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have been felt within > the State's borders. > > > > > > > > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apart occurred in > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and > Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zone encompassed > an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the > southwestern part of Minnesota. > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May 26, 1909, > affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a > considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville, > Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although details ae > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or V in > southeastern Minnesota. > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in the St. > Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt widely > in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightly felt at > Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strong earthquake > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the > United States estimated at one million square miles. This tremor was > also lightly felt at Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred on November 9, > 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake was felt over > approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central United States. Minor > damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana; and St. > Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities and towns in the > epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St. Paul. > > > > HYPERLINK > " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " ht tp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php > > > > > > > > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18 Hibbing- Chis... > MN A1 > > > > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester, MN A1 > > > > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1 Brainerd, MN A2 > > > > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0 Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1 > > > > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 near La Center, > MN A1 > > > > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest Orient Airlines 6 > Almelund, MN A1 > > > > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest Orient Airlines 13 > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesota’s 5th Infantry fought the Sioux > Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed. > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted in more than > 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged, > took place in Minnesota. > > > > > > > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato, Minn., > for their part in the Sioux Uprising. > > > > > > > > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acres and > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died. > > > > > > > > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern > Wisconsin killed about 800. > > > > > > > > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota > killing 60. > > > > > > > > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reported with > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine military Cessna L- 19 > crashed into Green Lake > > > > > > > > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloud killed 4 > people after construction workers hit a gas line. > > > > > > > > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. Croix River > left as many as 8 people dead. > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over > wage disputes. > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota. > > > > > > > > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crash killed Sen. > Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Angelino > > > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > > 2925-598 Azeitão > > Portugal > > > > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@ > > > > > > tel: > > mobile: > > > > 210813674 > > 963916784 > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > \nAdd me to your address book... > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature like this? > > > > > Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: Dear , Thor and other list members: > > I have been following your discussions of Mundane SA Astrology with > much interest. > > I am wondering what one would use for a date and time with regard to > trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live in Rochester, MN > and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going through > the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this past Sunday. > There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such > visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognized and used by > many foreign visitors. > > Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find a birth > time for Rochester, MN. > > Thank you for your time and consideration ... > > Best Wishes, > > Mew > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Dear Jorge: Could you please refresh my memory as to why you chose to go with the GMT time ... I recall a discussion about that in the past with regard to another SAMVA chart ... Thank you for your patience and time ... Mew SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > > Dear Mew, > > Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota by Jorge Angelino. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> wrote: > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > > > > > This is the rectified chart of: > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT > > > > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57 > > > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA > > > > > > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord > > > > ================================================ > > > > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke > > > > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su > > > > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke > > > > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa > > > > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su > > > > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su > > > > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo > > > > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju > > > > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju > > > > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve > > > > > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats > > > > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM > > > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi > > > > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su > > > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag > > > > > > > > Rashi Chart > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > ** 6 * * 4 ** > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * SA 01:38* * > > > > * * * AS 07:14 * * * > > > > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > ** * * JU 04:50 ** > > > > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 * > > > > ** * * ** > > > > *9 * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * MO 07:01* > > > > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49* > > > > * * * * * MER29:29* > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > ** 10 * * 12 ** > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > Navamsha > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > ** 4 * * 2 ** > > > > *5 * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * SA * RA * * > > > > * * * AS * * * > > > > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 * > > > > * * * VE * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > ** * * ** > > > > *6 * 12 * > > > > ** * * ** > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * SU * * * > > > > * * 9 MER * 11 JU * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * KE * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > ** 8 * * 10 ** > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > Admitted > > > > May 11, 1858 > > > > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of the Minnesota > River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First European Permanent > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; Administrative Divisions: 87 > Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; Electoral Votes: 10 > > > > HYPERLINK > " http://www.amendment-13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment- 13.org/statehood.html > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 †" 1858), state > capital (1858 †" current) > > > > HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_an d_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states > > > > > > > > Minnesota Disaster History > > > > > > > > Major Disaster Declarations > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622 > > > > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569 > > > > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419 > > > > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370 > > > > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333 > > > > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains 1288 > > > > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283 > > > > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds And Tornadoes 1225 > > > > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212 > > > > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187 > > > > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175 > > > > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158 > > > > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151 > > > > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116 > > > > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078 > > > > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding, > Tornadoes, Heat 1064 > > > > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993 > > > > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946 > > > > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929 > > > > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824 > > > > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797 > > > > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582 > > > > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560 > > > > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555 > > > > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476 > > > > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473 > > > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446 > > > > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440 > > > > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350 > > > > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > > > > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291 > > > > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268 > > > > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255 > > > > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250 > > > > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249 > > > > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215 > > > > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188 > > > > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80 > > > > > > > > Emergency Declarations > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242 > > > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013 > > > > > > > > Fire Management Assistance Declarations > > > > Year Date Incident Disaster Number > > > > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409 > > > > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345 > > > > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024 > > > > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023 > > > > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022 > > > > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021 > > > > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020 > > > > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019 > > > > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018 > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema? id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27 > > > > > > > > Earthquake History of Minnesota > > > > > > > > Western Minnesota > > > > 1975 07 09 14:54:21.3 UTC > > > > Magnitude 5.0 > > > > Intensity VI > > > > > > > > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in 1860. Although > the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in the central > part of the State. Very little information is available about this > earthquake. > > > > > > > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook the central part of > Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects were noted > at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30 miles east > of Staples. > > > > > > > > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have been felt within > the State's borders. > > > > > > > > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apart occurred in > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and > Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zone encompassed > an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the > southwestern part of Minnesota. > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May 26, 1909, > affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a > considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville, > Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although details ae > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or V in > southeastern Minnesota. > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in the St. > Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt widely > in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightly felt at > Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strong earthquake > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the > United States estimated at one million square miles. This tremor was > also lightly felt at Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred on November 9, > 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake was felt over > approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central United States. Minor > damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana; and St. > Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities and towns in the > epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St. Paul. > > > > HYPERLINK > " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " ht tp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php > > > > > > > > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18 Hibbing- Chis... > MN A1 > > > > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester, MN A1 > > > > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1 Brainerd, MN A2 > > > > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0 Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1 > > > > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 near La Center, > MN A1 > > > > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest Orient Airlines 6 > Almelund, MN A1 > > > > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest Orient Airlines 13 > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesota’s 5th Infantry fought the Sioux > Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed. > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted in more than > 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged, > took place in Minnesota. > > > > > > > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato, Minn., > for their part in the Sioux Uprising. > > > > > > > > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acres and > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died. > > > > > > > > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern > Wisconsin killed about 800. > > > > > > > > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota > killing 60. > > > > > > > > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reported with > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine military Cessna L- 19 > crashed into Green Lake > > > > > > > > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloud killed 4 > people after construction workers hit a gas line. > > > > > > > > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. Croix River > left as many as 8 people dead. > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over > wage disputes. > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota. > > > > > > > > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crash killed Sen. > Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Angelino > > > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > > 2925-598 Azeitão > > Portugal > > > > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@ > > > > > > tel: > > mobile: > > > > 210813674 > > 963916784 > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > \nAdd me to your address book... > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature like this? > > > > > Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: Dear , Thor and other list members: > > I have been following your discussions of Mundane SA Astrology with > much interest. > > I am wondering what one would use for a date and time with regard to > trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live in Rochester, MN > and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going through > the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this past Sunday. > There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such > visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognized and used by > many foreign visitors. > > Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find a birth > time for Rochester, MN. > > Thank you for your time and consideration ... > > Best Wishes, > > Mew > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Hi Mary, You should check to see if this chart is based on historical data. David's suggestion is best to confirm or deny. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Mary Ellen Wright " <wdwmew <SAMVA > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:20 AM Re: proposed MN chart Dear Thor: Thank you for this information regarding Minnesota's proposed chart ... it's very interesting ... and my thanks to Jorge for his time and knowledge put into the MN chart ... Best Wishes, Mew SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > > Dear Mew, > > Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota by Jorge Angelino. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> wrote: > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > > > > > This is the rectified chart of: > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT > > > > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57 > > > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA > > > > > > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord > > > > ================================================ > > > > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke > > > > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su > > > > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke > > > > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa > > > > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su > > > > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su > > > > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo > > > > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju > > > > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju > > > > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve > > > > > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats > > > > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM > > > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi > > > > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su > > > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag > > > > > > > > Rashi Chart > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > ** 6 * * 4 ** > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * SA 01:38* * > > > > * * * AS 07:14 * * * > > > > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > ** * * JU 04:50 ** > > > > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 * > > > > ** * * ** > > > > *9 * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * MO 07:01* > > > > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49* > > > > * * * * * MER29:29* > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > ** 10 * * 12 ** > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > Navamsha > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > ** 4 * * 2 ** > > > > *5 * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * SA * RA * * > > > > * * * AS * * * > > > > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 * > > > > * * * VE * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > ** * * ** > > > > *6 * 12 * > > > > ** * * ** > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * SU * * * > > > > * * 9 MER * 11 JU * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * KE * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > * * * * * * > > > > ** 8 * * 10 ** > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > Admitted > > > > May 11, 1858 > > > > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of the Minnesota > River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First European Permanent > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; Administrative Divisions: 87 > Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; Electoral Votes: 10 > > > > HYPERLINK > " http://www.amendment-13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment- 13.org/statehood.html > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 â? " 1858), state > capital (1858 â? " current) > > > > HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_an d_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states > > > > > > > > Minnesota Disaster History > > > > > > > > Major Disaster Declarations > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622 > > > > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569 > > > > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419 > > > > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370 > > > > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333 > > > > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains 1288 > > > > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283 > > > > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds And Tornadoes 1225 > > > > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212 > > > > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187 > > > > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175 > > > > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158 > > > > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151 > > > > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116 > > > > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078 > > > > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding, > Tornadoes, Heat 1064 > > > > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993 > > > > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946 > > > > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929 > > > > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824 > > > > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797 > > > > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582 > > > > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560 > > > > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555 > > > > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476 > > > > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473 > > > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446 > > > > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440 > > > > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350 > > > > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > > > > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291 > > > > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268 > > > > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255 > > > > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250 > > > > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249 > > > > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215 > > > > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188 > > > > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80 > > > > > > > > Emergency Declarations > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242 > > > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013 > > > > > > > > Fire Management Assistance Declarations > > > > Year Date Incident Disaster Number > > > > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409 > > > > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345 > > > > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024 > > > > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023 > > > > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022 > > > > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021 > > > > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020 > > > > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019 > > > > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018 > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema? id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27 > > > > > > > > Earthquake History of Minnesota > > > > > > > > Western Minnesota > > > > 1975 07 09 14:54:21.3 UTC > > > > Magnitude 5.0 > > > > Intensity VI > > > > > > > > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in 1860. Although > the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in the central > part of the State. Very little information is available about this > earthquake. > > > > > > > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook the central part of > Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects were noted > at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30 miles east > of Staples. > > > > > > > > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have been felt within > the State's borders. > > > > > > > > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apart occurred in > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and > Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zone encompassed > an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the > southwestern part of Minnesota. > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May 26, 1909, > affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a > considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville, > Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although details ae > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or V in > southeastern Minnesota. > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in the St. > Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt widely > in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightly felt at > Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strong earthquake > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the > United States estimated at one million square miles. This tremor was > also lightly felt at Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred on November 9, > 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake was felt over > approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central United States. Minor > damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana; and St. > Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities and towns in the > epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St. Paul. > > > > HYPERLINK > " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " ht tp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php > > > > > > > > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18 Hibbing- Chis... > MN A1 > > > > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester, MN A1 > > > > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1 Brainerd, MN A2 > > > > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0 Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1 > > > > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 near La Center, > MN A1 > > > > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest Orient Airlines 6 > Almelund, MN A1 > > > > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest Orient Airlines 13 > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesotaâ?Ts 5th Infantry fought the Sioux > Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed. > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted in more than > 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged, > took place in Minnesota. > > > > > > > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato, Minn., > for their part in the Sioux Uprising. > > > > > > > > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acres and > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died. > > > > > > > > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern > Wisconsin killed about 800. > > > > > > > > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota > killing 60. > > > > > > > > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reported with > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine military Cessna L- 19 > crashed into Green Lake > > > > > > > > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloud killed 4 > people after construction workers hit a gas line. > > > > > > > > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. Croix River > left as many as 8 people dead. > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over > wage disputes. > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota. > > > > > > > > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crash killed Sen. > Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Angelino > > > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > > 2925-598 Azeitão > > Portugal > > > > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@ > > > > > > tel: > > mobile: > > > > 210813674 > > 963916784 > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > \nAdd me to your address book... > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature like this? > > > > > Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: Dear , Thor and other list members: > > I have been following your discussions of Mundane SA Astrology with > much interest. > > I am wondering what one would use for a date and time with regard to > trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live in Rochester, MN > and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going through > the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this past Sunday. > There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such > visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognized and used by > many foreign visitors. > > Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find a birth > time for Rochester, MN. > > Thank you for your time and consideration ... > > Best Wishes, > > Mew > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Dear Mew, It has to do with the possibility of being more precise in the TOB. Best wishes, Jorge On 5/23/07, Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: Dear Jorge:Could you please refresh my memory as to why you chose to go with theGMT time ... I recall a discussion about that in the past with regard to another SAMVA chart ...Thank you for your patience and time ...MewSAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:> >> Dear Mew,>> Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota byJorge Angelino.>> Best wishes,>> Thor>>> SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@>wrote:> >> > Dear List Members,> >> >> >> > This is the rectified chart of:> > > >> >> > MINNESOTA> >> > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT> >> > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57> >> > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA > >> >> >> > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord> >> > ================================================> >> > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke > >> > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su> >> > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke> >> > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa > >> > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su> >> > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su> >> > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo > >> > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju> >> > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju> >> > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve > >> >> >> > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats> >> > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM> >> > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi > >> > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su> >> > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag> >> >> >> > Rashi Chart> >> > ******************************************************* > >> > ** 6 * * 4 **> >> > *7 * * * * *> >> > * * * * * * > >> > * * * * * *> >> > * * * SA 01:38* *> >> > * * * AS 07:14 * * * > >> > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 *> >> > * * * * * *> >> > * * * * * * > >> > * * * * * *> >> > * * * * * *> >> > * * * * * * > >> > ** * * JU 04:50 **> >> > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 *> >> > ** * * ** > >> > *9 * * * * *> >> > * * * * * *> >> > * * * * * * > >> > * * * * * *> >> > * * * * * MO 07:01*> >> > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49* > >> > * * * * * MER29:29*> >> > * * * * * *> >> > * * * * * * > >> > * * * * * *> >> > * * * * * *> >> > ** 10 * * 12 ** > >> > *******************************************************> >> >> >> > Navamsha> >> > ******************************************************* > >> > ** 4 * * 2 **> >> > *5 * * * * *> >> > * * * * * * > >> > * * * * * *> >> > * SA * RA * *> >> > * * * AS * * * > >> > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 *> >> > * * * VE * * *> >> > * * * * * * > >> > * * * * * *> >> > * * * * * *> >> > * * * * * * > >> > ** * * **> >> > *6 * 12 *> >> > ** * * ** > >> > *7 * * * * *> >> > * * * * * *> >> > * * * * * * > >> > * * * * * *> >> > * * * SU * * *> >> > * * 9 MER * 11 JU * > >> > * * * * * *> >> > * * * * * *> >> > * * KE * * * * > >> > * * * * * *> >> > * * * * * *> >> > ** 8 * * 10 ** > >> > *******************************************************> >> >> >> > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification:> >> >> > > > MINNESOTA> >> > Admitted> >> > May 11, 1858> >> > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of the Minnesota> River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First European Permanent > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; Administrative Divisions: 87> Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; Electoral Votes: 10> >> > HYPERLINK> " http://www.amendment-13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment-13.org/statehood.html> >> >> >> > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 †" 1858), state > capital (1858 †" current)> >> > HYPERLINK> " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states> >> > > >> > Minnesota Disaster History> >> >> >> > Major Disaster Declarations> >> > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number> >> > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622 > >> > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569> >> > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419> >> > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370> >> > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333 > >> > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains 1288> >> > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283> >> > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds And Tornadoes 1225 > >> > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212> >> > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187> >> > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175> >> > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158 > >> > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151> >> > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116> >> > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078> >> > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding, > Tornadoes, Heat 1064> >> > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993> >> > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946> >> > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929 > >> > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824> >> > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797> >> > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582> >> > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560 > >> > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555> >> > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476> >> > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473> > > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446> >> > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440> >> > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350> >> > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > >> > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291> >> > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268> >> > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255> >> > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250 > >> > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249> >> > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215> >> > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188> >> > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80> > > >> >> > Emergency Declarations> >> > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number> >> > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242> > > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013> >> >> >> > Fire Management Assistance Declarations> >> > Year Date Incident Disaster Number> >> > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409 > >> > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345> >> > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024> >> > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023> >> > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022 > >> > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021> >> > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020> >> > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019> >> > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018> >> > > >> > HYPERLINK> " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27> >> >> >> > Earthquake History of Minnesota> >> >> >> > Western Minnesota> > > > 1975 07 09 14:54:21.3 UTC> >> > Magnitude 5.0> >> > Intensity VI> >> >> >> > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in 1860. Although> the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in thecentral> part of the State. Very little information is available about this> earthquake.> >> >> > > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook the central part of> Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects were noted> at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30 miles east > of Staples.> >> >> >> > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have been felt within> the State's borders.> >> >> >> > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apart occurred in > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and> Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zoneencompassed> an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the > southwestern part of Minnesota.> >> >> >> > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May 26, 1909,> affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a> considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville,> Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although detailsae > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or V in> southeastern Minnesota.> >> >> >> > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in the St.> Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt widely> in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightly felt at> Minneapolis.> >> >> >> > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strong earthquake > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the> United States estimated at one million square miles. This tremor was> also lightly felt at Minneapolis.> >> >> > > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred on November 9,> 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake was feltover> approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central United States. Minor> damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana; andSt.> Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities and towns in the> epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St. Paul.> >> > HYPERLINK> " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php> >> >> >> > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18 Hibbing-Chis...> MN A1 > >> > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester, MN A1> >> > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1 Brainerd,MN A2> >> > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0 Minneapolis, MN A1> >> > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1> >> > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 near LaCenter,> MN A1 > >> > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest Orient Airlines 6> Almelund, MN A1> >> > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest Orient Airlines 13> Minneapolis, MN A1 > >> >> >> > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesota’s 5th Infantry fought the Sioux> Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed.> >> >> > > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted in morethan> 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged,> took place in Minnesota.> >> >> > > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato, Minn.,> for their part in the Sioux Uprising.> >> >> >> > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acres and > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died.> >> >> >> > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern> Wisconsin killed about 800.> > > >> >> > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota> killing 60.> >> >> >> > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reported with > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis.> >> >> >> > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine military Cessna L-19> crashed into Green Lake> > > >> >> > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloud killed 4> people after construction workers hit a gas line.> >> >> >> > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. Croix River > left as many as 8 people dead.> >> >> >> > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over> wage disputes.> >> >> > > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota.> >> >> >> > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crash killed Sen.> Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others. > >> >> >> > Best wishes,> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Jorge Angelino> >> > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > > 2925-598 Azeitão> > Portugal> >> >> > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@> >> > > > tel:> > mobile:> >> > 210813674> > 963916784> >> >> >> >> >> > HYPERLINK> " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > \nAdd me to your address book...> >> > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signaturelike this?> >>>> Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: Dear , Thorand other list members:>> I have been following your discussions of Mundane SA Astrology with > much interest.>> I am wondering what one would use for a date and time with regardto> trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live in Rochester,MN> and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going through> the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this past Sunday.> There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such> visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognized and used by> many foreign visitors.>> Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find a birth> time for Rochester, MN.>> Thank you for your time and consideration ...> > Best Wishes,>> Mew>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 I thought it was to not have to deal with the LMT. Precision would be the same if the LMT was used and the TOB adjusted accordingly. Correct me if I am wrong. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino <SAMVA > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:53 PM Re: Re: proposed MN Chart Dear Mew, It has to do with the possibility of being more precise in the TOB. Best wishes, Jorge On 5/23/07, Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: > > Dear Jorge: > > Could you please refresh my memory as to why you chose to go with the > GMT time ... I recall a discussion about that in the past with regard > to another SAMVA chart ... > > Thank you for your patience and time ... > > Mew > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mew, > > > > Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota by > Jorge Angelino. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the rectified chart of: > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT > > > > > > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57 > > > > > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke > > > > > > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su > > > > > > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke > > > > > > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa > > > > > > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo > > > > > > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju > > > > > > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju > > > > > > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats > > > > > > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi > > > > > > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su > > > > > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag > > > > > > > > > > > > Rashi Chart > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > ** 6 * * 4 ** > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * SA 01:38* * > > > > > > * * * AS 07:14 * * * > > > > > > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > ** * * JU 04:50 ** > > > > > > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 * > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > *9 * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * MO 07:01* > > > > > > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49* > > > > > > * * * * * MER29:29* > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > ** 10 * * 12 ** > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsha > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > ** 4 * * 2 ** > > > > > > *5 * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * SA * RA * * > > > > > > * * * AS * * * > > > > > > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 * > > > > > > * * * VE * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > *6 * 12 * > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * SU * * * > > > > > > * * 9 MER * 11 JU * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * KE * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > ** 8 * * 10 ** > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > Admitted > > > > > > May 11, 1858 > > > > > > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of the Minnesota > > River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First European Permanent > > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; Administrative Divisions: 87 > > Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; Electoral Votes: 10 > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " http://www.amendment-13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment- > 13.org/statehood.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 †" 1858), state > > capital (1858 †" current) > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit > ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_an > d_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states > > > > > > > > > > > > Minnesota Disaster History > > > > > > > > > > > > Major Disaster Declarations > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622 > > > > > > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569 > > > > > > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419 > > > > > > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370 > > > > > > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333 > > > > > > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains 1288 > > > > > > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283 > > > > > > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds And Tornadoes 1225 > > > > > > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212 > > > > > > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187 > > > > > > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175 > > > > > > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158 > > > > > > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151 > > > > > > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116 > > > > > > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078 > > > > > > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding, > > Tornadoes, Heat 1064 > > > > > > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993 > > > > > > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946 > > > > > > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929 > > > > > > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824 > > > > > > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797 > > > > > > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582 > > > > > > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560 > > > > > > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555 > > > > > > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476 > > > > > > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473 > > > > > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446 > > > > > > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440 > > > > > > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350 > > > > > > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > > > > > > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291 > > > > > > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268 > > > > > > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255 > > > > > > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250 > > > > > > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249 > > > > > > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215 > > > > > > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188 > > > > > > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80 > > > > > > > > > > > > Emergency Declarations > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242 > > > > > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013 > > > > > > > > > > > > Fire Management Assistance Declarations > > > > > > Year Date Incident Disaster Number > > > > > > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409 > > > > > > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345 > > > > > > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024 > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023 > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022 > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021 > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020 > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019 > > > > > > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018 > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema? > id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27 > > > > > > > > > > > > Earthquake History of Minnesota > > > > > > > > > > > > Western Minnesota > > > > > > 1975 07 09 14:54:21.3 UTC > > > > > > Magnitude 5.0 > > > > > > Intensity VI > > > > > > > > > > > > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in 1860. > Although > > the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in the > central > > part of the State. Very little information is available about this > > earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook the central part of > > Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects were noted > > at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30 miles east > > of Staples. > > > > > > > > > > > > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have been felt within > > the State's borders. > > > > > > > > > > > > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apart occurred in > > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and > > Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zone > encompassed > > an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the > > southwestern part of Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May 26, 1909, > > affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings > > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a > > considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville, > > Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although details > ae > > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or V in > > southeastern Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in the St. > > Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt > widely > > in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightly felt at > > Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strong earthquake > > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the > > United States estimated at one million square miles. This tremor was > > also lightly felt at Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred on November 9, > > 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake was felt > over > > approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central United States. > Minor > > damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana; and > St. > > Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities and towns in the > > epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at > > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St. Paul. > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " ht > tp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php > > > > > > > > > > > > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18 Hibbing- > Chis... > > MN A1 > > > > > > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester, MN A1 > > > > > > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1 Brainerd, > MN A2 > > > > > > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0 > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1 > > > > > > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 near La > Center, > > MN A1 > > > > > > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest Orient Airlines 6 > > Almelund, MN A1 > > > > > > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest Orient Airlines 13 > > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesota’s 5th Infantry fought the Sioux > > Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted in more > than > > 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged, > > took place in Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato, Minn., > > for their part in the Sioux Uprising. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acres and > > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern > > Wisconsin killed about 800. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota > > killing 60. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reported with > > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine military Cessna L- > 19 > > crashed into Green Lake > > > > > > > > > > > > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloud killed 4 > > people after construction workers hit a gas line. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. Croix River > > left as many as 8 people dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over > > wage disputes. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crash killed Sen. > > Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Angelino > > > > > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > > > 2925-598 Azeitão > > > Portugal > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@ > > > > > > > > > tel: > > > mobile: > > > > > > 210813674 > > > 963916784 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > > \nAdd me to your address book... > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature > like this? > > > > > > > > > Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: Dear , Thor > and other list members: > > > > I have been following your discussions of Mundane SA Astrology with > > much interest. > > > > I am wondering what one would use for a date and time with regard > to > > trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live in Rochester, > MN > > and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going > through > > the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this past Sunday. > > There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such > > visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognized and used > by > > many foreign visitors. > > > > Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find a birth > > time for Rochester, MN. > > > > Thank you for your time and consideration ... > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Mew > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 You are right my dear Vyas...however, using Brian's programe, in zone (LMT) we have space only for hours & minutes while in time we have space for hours, minutes & seconds. Warm regards, Jorge On 5/23/07, Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: I thought it was to not have to deal with the LMT.Precision would be the same if the LMT was used and the TOB adjusted accordingly. Correct me if I am wrong.Best regards,Vyas Munidas- " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino ><SAMVA >Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:53 PMRe: Re: proposed MN ChartDear Mew,It has to do with the possibility of being more precise in the TOB. Best wishes,JorgeOn 5/23/07, Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote:>> Dear Jorge:>> Could you please refresh my memory as to why you chose to go with the > GMT time ... I recall a discussion about that in the past with regard> to another SAMVA chart ...>> Thank you for your patience and time ...>> Mew>> SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:> >> >> > Dear Mew,> >> > Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota by> Jorge Angelino. > >> > Best wishes,> >> > Thor> >> >> > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino @>> wrote:> > >> > > Dear List Members,> > >> > >> > >> > > This is the rectified chart of:> > >> > >> > > > > > MINNESOTA> > >> > > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT> > >> > > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57> > >> > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA > > >> > >> > >> > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord> > >> > > ================================================> > > > > > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke> > >> > > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su> > >> > > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke > > >> > > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa> > >> > > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su> > >> > > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su > > >> > > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo> > >> > > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju> > >> > > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju> > >> > > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve> > >> > >> > >> > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats > > >> > > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM> > >> > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi> > >> > > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su > > >> > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag> > >> > >> > >> > > Rashi Chart> > >> > > ******************************************************* > > >> > > ** 6 * * 4 **> > >> > > *7 * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * * > > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * * * SA 01:38* *> > >> > > * * * AS 07:14 * * * > > >> > > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 *> > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * * > > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * * > > >> > > ** * * JU 04:50 **> > >> > > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 *> > >> > > ** * * ** > > >> > > *9 * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * * > > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * MO 07:01*> > >> > > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49* > > >> > > * * * * * MER29:29*> > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * * > > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > ** 10 * * 12 ** > > >> > > *******************************************************> > >> > >> > >> > > Navamsha> > >> > > ******************************************************* > > >> > > ** 4 * * 2 **> > >> > > *5 * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * * > > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * SA * RA * *> > >> > > * * * AS * * * > > >> > > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 *> > >> > > * * * VE * * *> > >> > > * * * * * * > > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * * > > >> > > ** * * **> > >> > > *6 * 12 *> > >> > > ** * * ** > > >> > > *7 * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * * > > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * * * SU * * *> > >> > > * * 9 MER * 11 JU * > > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * * KE * * * * > > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > * * * * * *> > >> > > ** 8 * * 10 ** > > >> > > *******************************************************> > >> > >> > >> > > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification:> > > > > >> > >> > > MINNESOTA> > >> > > Admitted> > >> > > May 11, 1858> > >> > > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of the Minnesota > > River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First European Permanent> > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; Administrative Divisions: 87> > Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; Electoral Votes: 10 > > >> > > HYPERLINK> > " http://www.amendment-13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment- > 13.org/statehood.html> > >> > >> > >> > > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 †" 1858), state > > capital (1858 †" current)> > >> > > HYPERLINK> > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit > ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_an> d_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states> > > > > >> > >> > > Minnesota Disaster History> > >> > >> > >> > > Major Disaster Declarations> > >> > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > >> > > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622> > >> > > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569> > >> > > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419 > > >> > > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370> > >> > > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333> > >> > > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains 1288 > > >> > > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283> > >> > > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds And Tornadoes 1225> > >> > > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212 > > >> > > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187> > >> > > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175> > >> > > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158 > > >> > > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151> > >> > > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116> > >> > > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078> > > > > > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding,> > Tornadoes, Heat 1064> > >> > > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993> > > > > > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946> > >> > > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929> > >> > > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824> > >> > > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797 > > >> > > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582> > >> > > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560> > >> > > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555 > > >> > > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476> > >> > > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473> > >> > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446 > > >> > > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440> > >> > > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350> > >> > > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > > >> > > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291> > >> > > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268> > >> > > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255> > > > > > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250> > >> > > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249> > >> > > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215> > >> > > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188 > > >> > > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80> > >> > >> > >> > > Emergency Declarations> > >> > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > >> > > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242> > >> > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013> > >> > >> > >> > > Fire Management Assistance Declarations > > >> > > Year Date Incident Disaster Number> > >> > > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409> > >> > > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345> > > > > > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024> > >> > > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023> > >> > > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022> > >> > > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021 > > >> > > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020> > >> > > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019> > >> > > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018> > >> > > > > >> > > HYPERLINK> > " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?> id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27> > >> > >> > >> > > Earthquake History of Minnesota> > >> > >> > >> > > Western Minnesota > > >> > > 1975 07 09 14:54:21.3 UTC> > >> > > Magnitude 5.0> > >> > > Intensity VI> > >> > >> > >> > > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in 1860. > Although> > the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in the> central> > part of the State. Very little information is available about this> > earthquake.> > > > > >> > >> > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook the central part of> > Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects were noted> > at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30 miles east > > of Staples.> > >> > >> > >> > > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have been felt within> > the State's borders.> > > > > >> > >> > > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apart occurred in> > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and> > Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zone > encompassed> > an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the> > southwestern part of Minnesota.> > >> > >> > >> > > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May 26, 1909, > > affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings> > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a> > considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville, > > Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although details> ae> > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or V in> > southeastern Minnesota.> > > > > >> > >> > > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in the St.> > Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt> widely> > in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightly felt at > > Minneapolis.> > >> > >> > >> > > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strong earthquake> > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the > > United States estimated at one million square miles. This tremor was> > also lightly felt at Minneapolis.> > >> > >> > >> > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred on November 9, > > 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake was felt> over> > approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central United States.> Minor> > damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana; and > St.> > Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities and towns in the> > epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at> > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St. Paul. > > >> > > HYPERLINK> > " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " ht > tp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php> > >> > >> > >> > > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18 Hibbing-> Chis... > > MN A1> > >> > > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester, MN A1> > >> > > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1 Brainerd,> MN A2 > > >> > > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0> Minneapolis, MN A1> > >> > > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1> > > > > > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 near La> Center,> > MN A1> > >> > > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest Orient Airlines 6> > Almelund, MN A1 > > >> > > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest Orient Airlines 13> > Minneapolis, MN A1> > >> > >> > >> > > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesota’s 5th Infantry fought the Sioux > > Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed.> > >> > >> > >> > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted in more> than > > 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged,> > took place in Minnesota.> > >> > >> > >> > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato, Minn., > > for their part in the Sioux Uprising.> > >> > >> > >> > > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acres and> > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died. > > >> > >> > >> > > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern> > Wisconsin killed about 800.> > >> > >> > > > > > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota> > killing 60.> > >> > >> > >> > > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reported with > > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis.> > >> > >> > >> > > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine military Cessna L-> 19> > crashed into Green Lake > > >> > >> > >> > > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloud killed 4> > people after construction workers hit a gas line.> > > > > >> > >> > > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. Croix River> > left as many as 8 people dead.> > >> > >> > >> > > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over > > wage disputes.> > >> > >> > >> > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota.> > >> > >> > > > > > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crash killed Sen.> > Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others.> > >> > >> > >> > > Best wishes, > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Jorge Angelino> > >> > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > > > 2925-598 Azeitão> > > Portugal> > >> > >> > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@ > > >> > >> > > tel:> > > mobile:> > >> > > 210813674> > > 963916784> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >> > > HYPERLINK> > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > > \nAdd me to your address book...> > >> > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature> like this? > > >> >> >> > Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: Dear , Thor> and other list members:> >> > I have been following your discussions of Mundane SA Astrology with > > much interest.> >> > I am wondering what one would use for a date and time with regard> to> > trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live in Rochester,> MN > > and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going> through> > the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this past Sunday.> > There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such > > visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognized and used> by> > many foreign visitors.> >> > Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find a birth > > time for Rochester, MN.> >> > Thank you for your time and consideration ...> >> > Best Wishes,> >> > Mew> >> >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Dear Jorge, Yes you are correct. Within error limits though, it wouldn't make any difference unless it's right on an ASC change moment. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino <SAMVA > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:09 PM Re: Re: proposed MN Chart You are right my dear Vyas...however, using Brian's programe, in *zone* (LMT) we have space only for hours & minutes while in *time* we have space for hours, minutes & seconds. Warm regards, Jorge On 5/23/07, Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > > I thought it was to not have to deal with the LMT. > > Precision would be the same if the LMT was used and the TOB adjusted > accordingly. Correct me if I am wrong. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:53 PM > Re: Re: proposed MN Chart > > > Dear Mew, > > It has to do with the possibility of being more precise in the TOB. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On 5/23/07, Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: > > > > Dear Jorge: > > > > Could you please refresh my memory as to why you chose to go with the > > GMT time ... I recall a discussion about that in the past with regard > > to another SAMVA chart ... > > > > Thank you for your patience and time ... > > > > Mew > > > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Mew, > > > > > > Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota by > > Jorge Angelino. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the rectified chart of: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > > > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57 > > > > > > > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke > > > > > > > > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su > > > > > > > > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke > > > > > > > > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa > > > > > > > > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > > > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > > > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo > > > > > > > > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju > > > > > > > > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju > > > > > > > > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats > > > > > > > > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM > > > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi > > > > > > > > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su > > > > > > > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rashi Chart > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > ** 6 * * 4 ** > > > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * SA 01:38* * > > > > > > > > * * * AS 07:14 * * * > > > > > > > > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > ** * * JU 04:50 ** > > > > > > > > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 * > > > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > > > *9 * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * MO 07:01* > > > > > > > > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49* > > > > > > > > * * * * * MER29:29* > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > ** 10 * * 12 ** > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsha > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > ** 4 * * 2 ** > > > > > > > > *5 * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * SA * RA * * > > > > > > > > * * * AS * * * > > > > > > > > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 * > > > > > > > > * * * VE * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > > > *6 * 12 * > > > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * SU * * * > > > > > > > > * * 9 MER * 11 JU * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * KE * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > ** 8 * * 10 ** > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > > > Admitted > > > > > > > > May 11, 1858 > > > > > > > > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of the Minnesota > > > River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First European Permanent > > > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; Administrative Divisions: 87 > > > Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; Electoral Votes: 10 > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > " http://www.amendment-13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment- > > 13.org/statehood.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 †" 1858), state > > > capital (1858 †" current) > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit > > ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_an > > d_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Minnesota Disaster History > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Major Disaster Declarations > > > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > > > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622 > > > > > > > > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569 > > > > > > > > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419 > > > > > > > > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370 > > > > > > > > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333 > > > > > > > > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains 1288 > > > > > > > > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283 > > > > > > > > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds And Tornadoes 1225 > > > > > > > > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212 > > > > > > > > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187 > > > > > > > > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175 > > > > > > > > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158 > > > > > > > > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151 > > > > > > > > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116 > > > > > > > > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078 > > > > > > > > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding, > > > Tornadoes, Heat 1064 > > > > > > > > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993 > > > > > > > > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946 > > > > > > > > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929 > > > > > > > > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824 > > > > > > > > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797 > > > > > > > > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582 > > > > > > > > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560 > > > > > > > > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555 > > > > > > > > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476 > > > > > > > > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473 > > > > > > > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446 > > > > > > > > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440 > > > > > > > > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350 > > > > > > > > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > > > > > > > > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291 > > > > > > > > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268 > > > > > > > > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255 > > > > > > > > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250 > > > > > > > > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249 > > > > > > > > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215 > > > > > > > > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188 > > > > > > > > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Emergency Declarations > > > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > > > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242 > > > > > > > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fire Management Assistance Declarations > > > > > > > > Year Date Incident Disaster Number > > > > > > > > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409 > > > > > > > > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345 > > > > > > > > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024 > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023 > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022 > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021 > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020 > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019 > > > > > > > > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema? > > id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earthquake History of Minnesota > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Western Minnesota > > > > > > > > 1975 07 09 14:54:21.3 UTC > > > > > > > > Magnitude 5.0 > > > > > > > > Intensity VI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in 1860. > > Although > > > the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in the > > central > > > part of the State. Very little information is available about this > > > earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook the central part of > > > Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects were noted > > > at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30 miles east > > > of Staples. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have been felt within > > > the State's borders. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apart occurred in > > > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and > > > Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zone > > encompassed > > > an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the > > > southwestern part of Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May 26, 1909, > > > affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings > > > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a > > > considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville, > > > Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although details > > ae > > > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or V in > > > southeastern Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in the St. > > > Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt > > widely > > > in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightly felt at > > > Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strong earthquake > > > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the > > > United States estimated at one million square miles. This tremor was > > > also lightly felt at Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred on November 9, > > > 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake was felt > > over > > > approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central United States. > > Minor > > > damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana; and > > St. > > > Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities and towns in the > > > epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at > > > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St. Paul. > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " ht > > tp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18 Hibbing- > > Chis... > > > MN A1 > > > > > > > > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester, MN A1 > > > > > > > > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1 Brainerd, > > MN A2 > > > > > > > > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0 > > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1 > > > > > > > > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 near La > > Center, > > > MN A1 > > > > > > > > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest Orient Airlines 6 > > > Almelund, MN A1 > > > > > > > > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest Orient Airlines 13 > > > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesota’s 5th Infantry fought the Sioux > > > Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted in more > > than > > > 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged, > > > took place in Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato, Minn., > > > for their part in the Sioux Uprising. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acres and > > > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern > > > Wisconsin killed about 800. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota > > > killing 60. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reported with > > > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine military Cessna L- > > 19 > > > crashed into Green Lake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloud killed 4 > > > people after construction workers hit a gas line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. Croix River > > > left as many as 8 people dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over > > > wage disputes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crash killed Sen. > > > Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Angelino > > > > > > > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > > > > 2925-598 Azeitão > > > > Portugal > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@ > > > > > > > > > > > > tel: > > > > mobile: > > > > > > > > 210813674 > > > > 963916784 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > > > \nAdd me to your address book... > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature > > like this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: Dear , Thor > > and other list members: > > > > > > I have been following your discussions of Mundane SA Astrology with > > > much interest. > > > > > > I am wondering what one would use for a date and time with regard > > to > > > trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live in Rochester, > > MN > > > and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going > > through > > > the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this past Sunday. > > > There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such > > > visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognized and used > > by > > > many foreign visitors. > > > > > > Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find a birth > > > time for Rochester, MN. > > > > > > Thank you for your time and consideration ... > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > Mew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 As I said, using Brian's programe, in zone (LMT) we have space only for hours & minutes while in time we have space for hours, minutes & seconds. This fact allows us to be more precise regarding POB, through the field of time. The correct TOB for the POB is 12:00 pm. Warm regards, Jorge On 5/23/07, Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Jorge,Yes you are correct. Within error limits though, it wouldn't make anydifference unless it's right on an ASC change moment. Best regards,Vyas Munidas- " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino< SAMVA >Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:09 PMRe: Re: proposed MN ChartYou are right my dear Vyas...however, using Brian's programe, in *zone*(LMT)we have space only for hours & minutes while in *time* we have space for hours, minutes & seconds.Warm regards,JorgeOn 5/23/07, Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:>> I thought it was to not have to deal with the LMT. >> Precision would be the same if the LMT was used and the TOB adjusted> accordingly. Correct me if I am wrong.>>> Best regards,>> Vyas Munidas>>> - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino> <SAMVA >> Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:53 PM > Re: Re: proposed MN Chart>>> Dear Mew,>> It has to do with the possibility of being more precise in the TOB.>> Best wishes,>> Jorge >>> On 5/23/07, Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote:> >> > Dear Jorge:> >> > Could you please refresh my memory as to why you chose to go with the > > GMT time ... I recall a discussion about that in the past with regard> > to another SAMVA chart ...> >> > Thank you for your patience and time ...> >> > Mew > >> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Mew,> > > > > > Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota by> > Jorge Angelino.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > Thor> > >> > > > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@>> > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear List Members, > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > This is the rectified chart of:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > MINNESOTA > > > >> > > > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT> > > >> > > > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57> > > >> > > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord> > > >> > > > ================================================ > > > >> > > > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke> > > >> > > > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su> > > >> > > > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke > > > >> > > > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa> > > >> > > > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su> > > >> > > > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su > > > >> > > > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo> > > >> > > > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju> > > >> > > > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju> > > >> > > > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats > > > >> > > > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM> > > >> > > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi> > > >> > > > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su > > > >> > > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Rashi Chart> > > >> > > > ******************************************************* > > > >> > > > ** 6 * * 4 **> > > >> > > > *7 * * * * *> > > > > > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * SA 01:38* * > > > >> > > > * * * AS 07:14 * * *> > > >> > > > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 *> > > > > > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * * > > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > > > > > > ** * * JU 04:50 **> > > >> > > > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 *> > > >> > > > ** * * ** > > > >> > > > *9 * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > > > > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * MO 07:01* > > > >> > > > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49*> > > >> > > > * * * * * MER29:29*> > > > > > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * * > > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > ** 10 * * 12 **> > > > > > > > *******************************************************> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Navamsha> > > >> > > > ******************************************************* > > > >> > > > ** 4 * * 2 **> > > >> > > > *5 * * * * *> > > > > > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * SA * RA * * > > > >> > > > * * * AS * * *> > > >> > > > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 *> > > > > > > > * * * VE * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * * > > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > > > > > > ** * * **> > > >> > > > *6 * 12 *> > > >> > > > ** * * ** > > > >> > > > *7 * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > > > > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * SU * * * > > > >> > > > * * 9 MER * 11 JU *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > > > > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * KE * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * * > > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > ** 8 * * 10 **> > > > > > > > *******************************************************> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > MINNESOTA> > > >> > > > Admitted> > > >> > > > May 11, 1858> > > > > > > > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of the Minnesota> > > River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First European Permanent> > > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; Administrative Divisions: 87 > > > Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; Electoral Votes: 10> > > >> > > > HYPERLINK> > > " http://www.amendment-13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment-> > 13.org/statehood.html> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 †" 1858), state > > > capital (1858 †" current)> > > >> > > > HYPERLINK> > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit > > ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_an> > d_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > Minnesota Disaster History> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Major Disaster Declarations> > > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number> > > >> > > > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622> > > >> > > > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569 > > > >> > > > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419> > > >> > > > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370> > > >> > > > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333 > > > >> > > > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains 1288> > > >> > > > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283> > > > > > > > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds And Tornadoes 1225> > > >> > > > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212> > > >> > > > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187 > > > >> > > > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175> > > >> > > > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158> > > >> > > > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151 > > > >> > > > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116> > > >> > > > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078> > > >> > > > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding, > > > Tornadoes, Heat 1064> > > >> > > > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993> > > >> > > > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946 > > > >> > > > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929> > > >> > > > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824> > > >> > > > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797 > > > >> > > > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582> > > >> > > > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560> > > >> > > > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555 > > > >> > > > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476> > > >> > > > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473> > > >> > > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446 > > > >> > > > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440> > > >> > > > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350> > > >> > > > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > > > >> > > > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291> > > >> > > > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268> > > >> > > > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255 > > > >> > > > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250> > > >> > > > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249> > > >> > > > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215 > > > >> > > > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188> > > >> > > > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Emergency Declarations > > > >> > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number> > > >> > > > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242> > > >> > > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013 > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Fire Management Assistance Declarations> > > >> > > > Year Date Incident Disaster Number> > > > > > > > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409> > > >> > > > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345> > > >> > > > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024> > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023> > > >> > > > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022> > > >> > > > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021> > > >> > > > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020 > > > >> > > > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019> > > >> > > > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > HYPERLINK > > > " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?> > id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27 > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Earthquake History of Minnesota> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Western Minnesota > > > >> > > > 1975 07 09 14:54:21.3 UTC> > > >> > > > Magnitude 5.0> > > >> > > > Intensity VI> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in 1860.> > Although> > > the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in the> > central > > > part of the State. Very little information is available about this> > > earthquake.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook the central part of > > > Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects were noted> > > at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30 miles east> > > of Staples.> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have been felt within> > > the State's borders.> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apart occurred in> > > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and> > > Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zone > > encompassed> > > an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the> > > southwestern part of Minnesota.> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May 26, 1909,> > > affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings> > > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a > > > considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville,> > > Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although details> > ae> > > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or V in > > > southeastern Minnesota.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in the St.> > > Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt > > widely> > > in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightly felt at> > > Minneapolis.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strong earthquake > > > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the> > > United States estimated at one million square miles. This tremor was> > > also lightly felt at Minneapolis. > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred on November 9,> > > 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake was felt > > over> > > approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central United States.> > Minor> > > damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana; and> > St. > > > Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities and towns in the> > > epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at> > > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St. Paul. > > > >> > > > HYPERLINK> > > " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " ht> > tp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18 Hibbing- > > Chis...> > > MN A1> > > >> > > > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester, MN A1> > > >> > > > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1 Brainerd, > > MN A2> > > >> > > > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0> > Minneapolis, MN A1> > > >> > > > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1 > > > >> > > > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 near La> > Center,> > > MN A1> > > >> > > > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest Orient Airlines 6 > > > Almelund, MN A1> > > >> > > > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest Orient Airlines 13> > > Minneapolis, MN A1> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesota’s 5th Infantry fought the Sioux> > > Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed.> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted in more> > than> > > 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged,> > > took place in Minnesota. > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato, Minn.,> > > for their part in the Sioux Uprising.> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acres and> > > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died.> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern> > > Wisconsin killed about 800.> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota> > > killing 60.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reported with > > > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine military Cessna L- > > 19> > > crashed into Green Lake> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloud killed 4> > > people after construction workers hit a gas line. > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. Croix River> > > left as many as 8 people dead.> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over> > > wage disputes.> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crash killed Sen. > > > Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Best wishes,> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Jorge Angelino> > > > > > > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29> > > > 2925-598 Azeitão> > > > Portugal> > > >> > > >> > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@> > > >> > > >> > > > tel:> > > > mobile:> > > >> > > > 210813674 > > > > 963916784> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > HYPERLINK> > > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > > > \nAdd me to your address book...> > > >> > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature> > like this?> > > >> > >> > >> > > Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: Dear , Thor > > and other list members:> > >> > > I have been following your discussions of Mundane SA Astrology with> > > much interest.> > >> > > I am wondering what one would use for a date and time with regard > > to> > > trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live in Rochester,> > MN> > > and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going> > through > > > the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this past Sunday.> > > There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such> > > visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognized and used > > by> > > many foreign visitors.> > >> > > Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find a birth> > > time for Rochester, MN.> > > > > > Thank you for your time and consideration ...> > >> > > Best Wishes,> > >> > > Mew> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 .... I followed exactly what you said the first time dear Jorge. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino <SAMVA > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:06 PM Re: Re: proposed MN Chart As I said, using Brian's programe, in *zone* (LMT) we have space only for hours & minutes while in *time* we have space for hours, minutes & seconds. This fact allows us to be more precise regarding POB, through the field of * time*. The correct TOB for the POB is 12:00 pm. Warm regards, Jorge On 5/23/07, Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > > Dear Jorge, > > Yes you are correct. Within error limits though, it wouldn't make any > difference unless it's right on an ASC change moment. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:09 PM > Re: Re: proposed MN Chart > > > You are right my dear Vyas...however, using Brian's programe, in *zone* > (LMT) > we have space only for hours & minutes while in *time* we have space for > hours, minutes & seconds. > > Warm regards, > > Jorge > > > On 5/23/07, Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > > > > I thought it was to not have to deal with the LMT. > > > > Precision would be the same if the LMT was used and the TOB adjusted > > accordingly. Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > <SAMVA > > > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:53 PM > > Re: Re: proposed MN Chart > > > > > > Dear Mew, > > > > It has to do with the possibility of being more precise in the TOB. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > > On 5/23/07, Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: > > > > > > Dear Jorge: > > > > > > Could you please refresh my memory as to why you chose to go with the > > > GMT time ... I recall a discussion about that in the past with regard > > > to another SAMVA chart ... > > > > > > Thank you for your patience and time ... > > > > > > Mew > > > > > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mew, > > > > > > > > Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota by > > > Jorge Angelino. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the rectified chart of: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > > > > > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT > > > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57 > > > > > > > > > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke > > > > > > > > > > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su > > > > > > > > > > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke > > > > > > > > > > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa > > > > > > > > > > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > > > > > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > > > > > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo > > > > > > > > > > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju > > > > > > > > > > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju > > > > > > > > > > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats > > > > > > > > > > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi > > > > > > > > > > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su > > > > > > > > > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rashi Chart > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > ** 6 * * 4 ** > > > > > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * SA 01:38* * > > > > > > > > > > * * * AS 07:14 * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > ** * * JU 04:50 ** > > > > > > > > > > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 * > > > > > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > > > > > *9 * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * MO 07:01* > > > > > > > > > > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49* > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * MER29:29* > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > ** 10 * * 12 ** > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsha > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > ** 4 * * 2 ** > > > > > > > > > > *5 * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * SA * RA * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * AS * * * > > > > > > > > > > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 * > > > > > > > > > > * * * VE * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > > > > > *6 * 12 * > > > > > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * SU * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * 9 MER * 11 JU * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * KE * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > ** 8 * * 10 ** > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > > > > > Admitted > > > > > > > > > > May 11, 1858 > > > > > > > > > > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of the Minnesota > > > > River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First European Permanent > > > > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; Administrative Divisions: 87 > > > > Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; Electoral Votes: 10 > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > " http://www.amendment-13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment- > > > 13.org/statehood.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 †" 1858), state > > > > capital (1858 †" current) > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit > > > ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_an > > > d_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Minnesota Disaster History > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Major Disaster Declarations > > > > > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > > > > > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622 > > > > > > > > > > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569 > > > > > > > > > > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419 > > > > > > > > > > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370 > > > > > > > > > > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333 > > > > > > > > > > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains 1288 > > > > > > > > > > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283 > > > > > > > > > > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds And Tornadoes 1225 > > > > > > > > > > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212 > > > > > > > > > > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187 > > > > > > > > > > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175 > > > > > > > > > > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158 > > > > > > > > > > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151 > > > > > > > > > > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116 > > > > > > > > > > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078 > > > > > > > > > > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding, > > > > Tornadoes, Heat 1064 > > > > > > > > > > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993 > > > > > > > > > > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946 > > > > > > > > > > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929 > > > > > > > > > > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824 > > > > > > > > > > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797 > > > > > > > > > > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582 > > > > > > > > > > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560 > > > > > > > > > > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555 > > > > > > > > > > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476 > > > > > > > > > > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473 > > > > > > > > > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446 > > > > > > > > > > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440 > > > > > > > > > > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350 > > > > > > > > > > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > > > > > > > > > > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291 > > > > > > > > > > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268 > > > > > > > > > > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255 > > > > > > > > > > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250 > > > > > > > > > > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249 > > > > > > > > > > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215 > > > > > > > > > > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188 > > > > > > > > > > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Emergency Declarations > > > > > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > > > > > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242 > > > > > > > > > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fire Management Assistance Declarations > > > > > > > > > > Year Date Incident Disaster Number > > > > > > > > > > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409 > > > > > > > > > > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345 > > > > > > > > > > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024 > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023 > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022 > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021 > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020 > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019 > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema? > > > id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earthquake History of Minnesota > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Western Minnesota > > > > > > > > > > 1975 07 09 14:54:21.3 UTC > > > > > > > > > > Magnitude 5.0 > > > > > > > > > > Intensity VI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in 1860. > > > Although > > > > the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in the > > > central > > > > part of the State. Very little information is available about this > > > > earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook the central part of > > > > Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects were noted > > > > at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30 miles east > > > > of Staples. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have been felt within > > > > the State's borders. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apart occurred in > > > > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and > > > > Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zone > > > encompassed > > > > an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the > > > > southwestern part of Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May 26, 1909, > > > > affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings > > > > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a > > > > considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville, > > > > Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although details > > > ae > > > > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or V in > > > > southeastern Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in the St. > > > > Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt > > > widely > > > > in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightly felt at > > > > Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strong earthquake > > > > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the > > > > United States estimated at one million square miles. This tremor was > > > > also lightly felt at Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred on November 9, > > > > 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake was felt > > > over > > > > approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central United States. > > > Minor > > > > damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana; and > > > St. > > > > Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities and towns in the > > > > epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at > > > > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St. Paul. > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " ht > > > tp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18 Hibbing- > > > Chis... > > > > MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1 Brainerd, > > > MN A2 > > > > > > > > > > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0 > > > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 near La > > > Center, > > > > MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest Orient Airlines 6 > > > > Almelund, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest Orient Airlines 13 > > > > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesota’s 5th Infantry fought the Sioux > > > > Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted in more > > > than > > > > 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged, > > > > took place in Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato, Minn., > > > > for their part in the Sioux Uprising. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acres and > > > > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern > > > > Wisconsin killed about 800. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota > > > > killing 60. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reported with > > > > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine military Cessna L- > > > 19 > > > > crashed into Green Lake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloud killed 4 > > > > people after construction workers hit a gas line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. Croix River > > > > left as many as 8 people dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over > > > > wage disputes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crash killed Sen. > > > > Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Angelino > > > > > > > > > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > > > > > 2925-598 Azeitão > > > > > Portugal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tel: > > > > > mobile: > > > > > > > > > > 210813674 > > > > > 963916784 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > > > > \nAdd me to your address book... > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature > > > like this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: Dear , Thor > > > and other list members: > > > > > > > > I have been following your discussions of Mundane SA Astrology with > > > > much interest. > > > > > > > > I am wondering what one would use for a date and time with regard > > > to > > > > trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live in Rochester, > > > MN > > > > and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going > > > through > > > > the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this past Sunday. > > > > There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such > > > > visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognized and used > > > by > > > > many foreign visitors. > > > > > > > > Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find a birth > > > > time for Rochester, MN. > > > > > > > > Thank you for your time and consideration ... > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > Mew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Hello Vyas: Thank you for the advice ... I appreciate your time and consideration ... Best Wishes, Mary SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > You should check to see if this chart is based on historical data. David's > suggestion is best to confirm or deny. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " Mary Ellen Wright " <wdwmew > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:20 AM > Re: proposed MN chart > > > Dear Thor: > > Thank you for this information regarding Minnesota's proposed > chart ... it's very interesting ... and my thanks to Jorge for his > time and knowledge put into the MN chart ... > > Best Wishes, > > Mew > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mew, > > > > Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota by > Jorge Angelino. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the rectified chart of: > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT > > > > > > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57 > > > > > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke > > > > > > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su > > > > > > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke > > > > > > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa > > > > > > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo > > > > > > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju > > > > > > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju > > > > > > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats > > > > > > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi > > > > > > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su > > > > > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag > > > > > > > > > > > > Rashi Chart > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > ** 6 * * 4 ** > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * SA 01:38* * > > > > > > * * * AS 07:14 * * * > > > > > > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > ** * * JU 04:50 ** > > > > > > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 * > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > *9 * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * MO 07:01* > > > > > > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49* > > > > > > * * * * * MER29:29* > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > ** 10 * * 12 ** > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsha > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > ** 4 * * 2 ** > > > > > > *5 * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * SA * RA * * > > > > > > * * * AS * * * > > > > > > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 * > > > > > > * * * VE * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > *6 * 12 * > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * SU * * * > > > > > > * * 9 MER * 11 JU * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * KE * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > ** 8 * * 10 ** > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > Admitted > > > > > > May 11, 1858 > > > > > > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of the Minnesota > > River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First European Permanent > > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; Administrative Divisions: 87 > > Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; Electoral Votes: 10 > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " http://www.amendment-13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment- > 13.org/statehood.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 â? " 1858), state > > capital (1858 â? " current) > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit > ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_an > d_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states > > > > > > > > > > > > Minnesota Disaster History > > > > > > > > > > > > Major Disaster Declarations > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622 > > > > > > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569 > > > > > > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419 > > > > > > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370 > > > > > > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333 > > > > > > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains 1288 > > > > > > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283 > > > > > > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds And Tornadoes 1225 > > > > > > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212 > > > > > > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187 > > > > > > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175 > > > > > > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158 > > > > > > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151 > > > > > > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116 > > > > > > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078 > > > > > > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding, > > Tornadoes, Heat 1064 > > > > > > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993 > > > > > > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946 > > > > > > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929 > > > > > > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824 > > > > > > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797 > > > > > > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582 > > > > > > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560 > > > > > > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555 > > > > > > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476 > > > > > > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473 > > > > > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446 > > > > > > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440 > > > > > > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350 > > > > > > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > > > > > > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291 > > > > > > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268 > > > > > > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255 > > > > > > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250 > > > > > > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249 > > > > > > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215 > > > > > > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188 > > > > > > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80 > > > > > > > > > > > > Emergency Declarations > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242 > > > > > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013 > > > > > > > > > > > > Fire Management Assistance Declarations > > > > > > Year Date Incident Disaster Number > > > > > > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409 > > > > > > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345 > > > > > > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024 > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023 > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022 > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021 > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020 > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019 > > > > > > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018 > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema? > id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27 > > > > > > > > > > > > Earthquake History of Minnesota > > > > > > > > > > > > Western Minnesota > > > > > > 1975 07 09 14:54:21.3 UTC > > > > > > Magnitude 5.0 > > > > > > Intensity VI > > > > > > > > > > > > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in 1860. > Although > > the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in the > central > > part of the State. Very little information is available about this > > earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook the central part of > > Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects were noted > > at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30 miles east > > of Staples. > > > > > > > > > > > > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have been felt within > > the State's borders. > > > > > > > > > > > > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apart occurred in > > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and > > Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zone > encompassed > > an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the > > southwestern part of Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May 26, 1909, > > affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings > > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a > > considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville, > > Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although details > ae > > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or V in > > southeastern Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in the St. > > Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt > widely > > in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightly felt at > > Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strong earthquake > > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the > > United States estimated at one million square miles. This tremor was > > also lightly felt at Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred on November 9, > > 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake was felt > over > > approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central United States. > Minor > > damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana; and > St. > > Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities and towns in the > > epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at > > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St. Paul. > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " ht > tp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php > > > > > > > > > > > > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18 Hibbing- > Chis... > > MN A1 > > > > > > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester, MN A1 > > > > > > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1 Brainerd, > MN A2 > > > > > > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0 > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1 > > > > > > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 near La > Center, > > MN A1 > > > > > > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest Orient Airlines 6 > > Almelund, MN A1 > > > > > > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest Orient Airlines 13 > > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesotaâ?Ts 5th Infantry fought the Sioux > > Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted in more > than > > 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged, > > took place in Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato, Minn., > > for their part in the Sioux Uprising. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acres and > > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern > > Wisconsin killed about 800. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota > > killing 60. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reported with > > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine military Cessna L- > 19 > > crashed into Green Lake > > > > > > > > > > > > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloud killed 4 > > people after construction workers hit a gas line. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. Croix River > > left as many as 8 people dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over > > wage disputes. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crash killed Sen. > > Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Angelino > > > > > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > > > 2925-598 Azeitão > > > Portugal > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@ > > > > > > > > > tel: > > > mobile: > > > > > > 210813674 > > > 963916784 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me? u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > > \nAdd me to your address book... > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature > like this? > > > > > > > > > Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew@> wrote: Dear , Thor > and other list members: > > > > I have been following your discussions of Mundane SA Astrology with > > much interest. > > > > I am wondering what one would use for a date and time with regard > to > > trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live in Rochester, > MN > > and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going > through > > the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this past Sunday. > > There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such > > visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognized and used > by > > many foreign visitors. > > > > Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find a birth > > time for Rochester, MN. > > > > Thank you for your time and consideration ... > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Mew > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Dear Jorge: Thank you for your response and consideration ... Best Wishes, Mew SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino wrote: > > Dear Mew, > > It has to do with the possibility of being more precise in the TOB. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On 5/23/07, Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: > > > > Dear Jorge: > > > > Could you please refresh my memory as to why you chose to go with the > > GMT time ... I recall a discussion about that in the past with regard > > to another SAMVA chart ... > > > > Thank you for your patience and time ... > > > > Mew > > > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Mew, > > > > > > Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota by > > Jorge Angelino. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the rectified chart of: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > > > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57 > > > > > > > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke > > > > > > > > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su > > > > > > > > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke > > > > > > > > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa > > > > > > > > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > > > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > > > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo > > > > > > > > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju > > > > > > > > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju > > > > > > > > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats > > > > > > > > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM > > > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi > > > > > > > > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su > > > > > > > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rashi Chart > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > ** 6 * * 4 ** > > > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * SA 01:38* * > > > > > > > > * * * AS 07:14 * * * > > > > > > > > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > ** * * JU 04:50 ** > > > > > > > > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 * > > > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > > > *9 * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * MO 07:01* > > > > > > > > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49* > > > > > > > > * * * * * MER29:29* > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > ** 10 * * 12 ** > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsha > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > ** 4 * * 2 ** > > > > > > > > *5 * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * SA * RA * * > > > > > > > > * * * AS * * * > > > > > > > > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 * > > > > > > > > * * * VE * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > > > *6 * 12 * > > > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * SU * * * > > > > > > > > * * 9 MER * 11 JU * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * KE * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > ** 8 * * 10 ** > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > > > Admitted > > > > > > > > May 11, 1858 > > > > > > > > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of the Minnesota > > > River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First European Permanent > > > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; Administrative Divisions: 87 > > > Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; Electoral Votes: 10 > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > " http://www.amendment- 13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment- > > 13.org/statehood.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 †" 1858), state > > > capital (1858 †" current) > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit > > ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_an > > d_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Minnesota Disaster History > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Major Disaster Declarations > > > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > > > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622 > > > > > > > > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569 > > > > > > > > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419 > > > > > > > > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370 > > > > > > > > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333 > > > > > > > > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains 1288 > > > > > > > > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283 > > > > > > > > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds And Tornadoes 1225 > > > > > > > > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212 > > > > > > > > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187 > > > > > > > > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175 > > > > > > > > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158 > > > > > > > > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151 > > > > > > > > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116 > > > > > > > > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078 > > > > > > > > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding, > > > Tornadoes, Heat 1064 > > > > > > > > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993 > > > > > > > > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946 > > > > > > > > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929 > > > > > > > > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824 > > > > > > > > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797 > > > > > > > > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582 > > > > > > > > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560 > > > > > > > > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555 > > > > > > > > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476 > > > > > > > > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473 > > > > > > > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446 > > > > > > > > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440 > > > > > > > > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350 > > > > > > > > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > > > > > > > > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291 > > > > > > > > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268 > > > > > > > > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255 > > > > > > > > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250 > > > > > > > > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249 > > > > > > > > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215 > > > > > > > > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188 > > > > > > > > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Emergency Declarations > > > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > > > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242 > > > > > > > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fire Management Assistance Declarations > > > > > > > > Year Date Incident Disaster Number > > > > > > > > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409 > > > > > > > > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345 > > > > > > > > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024 > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023 > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022 > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021 > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020 > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019 > > > > > > > > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema? > > id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earthquake History of Minnesota > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Western Minnesota > > > > > > > > 1975 07 09 14:54:21.3 UTC > > > > > > > > Magnitude 5.0 > > > > > > > > Intensity VI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in 1860. > > Although > > > the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in the > > central > > > part of the State. Very little information is available about this > > > earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook the central part of > > > Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects were noted > > > at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30 miles east > > > of Staples. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have been felt within > > > the State's borders. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apart occurred in > > > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and > > > Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zone > > encompassed > > > an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the > > > southwestern part of Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May 26, 1909, > > > affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings > > > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a > > > considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville, > > > Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although details > > ae > > > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or V in > > > southeastern Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in the St. > > > Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt > > widely > > > in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightly felt at > > > Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strong earthquake > > > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the > > > United States estimated at one million square miles. This tremor was > > > also lightly felt at Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred on November 9, > > > 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake was felt > > over > > > approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central United States. > > Minor > > > damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana; and > > St. > > > Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities and towns in the > > > epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at > > > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St. Paul. > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " ht > > tp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18 Hibbing- > > Chis... > > > MN A1 > > > > > > > > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester, MN A1 > > > > > > > > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1 Brainerd, > > MN A2 > > > > > > > > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0 > > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1 > > > > > > > > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 near La > > Center, > > > MN A1 > > > > > > > > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest Orient Airlines 6 > > > Almelund, MN A1 > > > > > > > > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest Orient Airlines 13 > > > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesota’s 5th Infantry fought the Sioux > > > Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted in more > > than > > > 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged, > > > took place in Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato, Minn., > > > for their part in the Sioux Uprising. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acres and > > > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern > > > Wisconsin killed about 800. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota > > > killing 60. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reported with > > > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine military Cessna L- > > 19 > > > crashed into Green Lake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloud killed 4 > > > people after construction workers hit a gas line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. Croix River > > > left as many as 8 people dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over > > > wage disputes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crash killed Sen. > > > Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Angelino > > > > > > > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > > > > 2925-598 Azeitão > > > > Portugal > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@ > > > > > > > > > > > > tel: > > > > mobile: > > > > > > > > 210813674 > > > > 963916784 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me? u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > > > \nAdd me to your address book... > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature > > like this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew@> wrote: Dear , Thor > > and other list members: > > > > > > I have been following your discussions of Mundane SA Astrology with > > > much interest. > > > > > > I am wondering what one would use for a date and time with regard > > to > > > trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live in Rochester, > > MN > > > and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going > > through > > > the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this past Sunday. > > > There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such > > > visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognized and used > > by > > > many foreign visitors. > > > > > > Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find a birth > > > time for Rochester, MN. > > > > > > Thank you for your time and consideration ... > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > Mew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Dear Mew, You are welcome. Best wishes, Jorge On 5/23/07, Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: Dear Jorge:Thank you for your response and consideration ...Best Wishes,Mew SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelinowrote:>> Dear Mew,>> It has to do with the possibility of being more precise in the TOB. >> Best wishes,>> Jorge>>> On 5/23/07, Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote:> >> > Dear Jorge:> >> > Could you please refresh my memory as to why you chose to go with the> > GMT time ... I recall a discussion about that in the past withregard> > to another SAMVA chart ...> >> > Thank you for your patience and time ...> >> > Mew > >> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Mew,> > > > > > Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota by> > Jorge Angelino.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > Thor> > >> > > > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@>> > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear List Members, > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > This is the rectified chart of:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > MINNESOTA > > > >> > > > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT> > > >> > > > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57> > > >> > > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord> > > >> > > > ================================================ > > > >> > > > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke> > > >> > > > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su> > > >> > > > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke > > > >> > > > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa> > > >> > > > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su> > > >> > > > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su > > > >> > > > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo> > > >> > > > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju> > > >> > > > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju> > > >> > > > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats > > > >> > > > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM> > > >> > > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi> > > >> > > > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su > > > >> > > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Rashi Chart> > > >> > > > ******************************************************* > > > >> > > > ** 6 * * 4 **> > > >> > > > *7 * * * * *> > > > > > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * SA 01:38* * > > > >> > > > * * * AS 07:14 * * *> > > >> > > > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 *> > > > > > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * * > > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > > > > > > ** * * JU 04:50 **> > > >> > > > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 *> > > >> > > > ** * * ** > > > >> > > > *9 * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > > > > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * MO 07:01* > > > >> > > > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49*> > > >> > > > * * * * * MER29:29*> > > > > > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * * > > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > ** 10 * * 12 **> > > > > > > > *******************************************************> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Navamsha> > > >> > > > ******************************************************* > > > >> > > > ** 4 * * 2 **> > > >> > > > *5 * * * * *> > > > > > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * SA * RA * * > > > >> > > > * * * AS * * *> > > >> > > > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 *> > > > > > > > * * * VE * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * * > > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > > > > > > ** * * **> > > >> > > > *6 * 12 *> > > >> > > > ** * * ** > > > >> > > > *7 * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > > > > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * SU * * * > > > >> > > > * * 9 MER * 11 JU *> > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > > > > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > * * KE * * * *> > > >> > > > * * * * * * > > > >> > > > * * * * * *> > > >> > > > ** 8 * * 10 **> > > > > > > > *******************************************************> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > MINNESOTA> > > >> > > > Admitted> > > >> > > > May 11, 1858> > > > > > > > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of theMinnesota> > > River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First EuropeanPermanent> > > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; Administrative Divisions: 87> > > Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; Electoral Votes: 10> > > >> > > > HYPERLINK> > > " http://www.amendment- 13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment-> > 13.org/statehood.html> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 †" 1858), state> > > capital (1858 †" current)> > > >> > > > HYPERLINK > >> " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit> >ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_an> > d_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Minnesota Disaster History> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Major Disaster Declarations> > > >> > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > >> > > > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622> > > >> > > > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569> > > >> > > > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419 > > > >> > > > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370> > > >> > > > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333> > > >> > > > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains 1288 > > > >> > > > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283> > > >> > > > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds And Tornadoes1225> > > > > > > > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212> > > >> > > > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187> > > >> > > > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175 > > > >> > > > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158> > > >> > > > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151> > > >> > > > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116 > > > >> > > > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078> > > >> > > > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding,> > > Tornadoes, Heat 1064 > > > >> > > > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993> > > >> > > > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946> > > >> > > > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929 > > > >> > > > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824> > > >> > > > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797> > > >> > > > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582 > > > >> > > > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560> > > >> > > > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555> > > > > > > > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476> > > >> > > > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473> > > >> > > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446 > > > >> > > > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440> > > >> > > > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350> > > >> > > > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > > > >> > > > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291> > > >> > > > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268> > > >> > > > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255 > > > >> > > > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250> > > >> > > > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249> > > >> > > > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215 > > > >> > > > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188> > > >> > > > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Emergency Declarations > > > >> > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number> > > >> > > > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242> > > >> > > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013 > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Fire Management Assistance Declarations> > > >> > > > Year Date Incident Disaster Number> > > > > > > > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409> > > >> > > > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345> > > >> > > > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024> > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023> > > >> > > > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022> > > >> > > > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021> > > >> > > > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020 > > > >> > > > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019> > > >> > > > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > HYPERLINK > > > " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?> > id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27 > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Earthquake History of Minnesota> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Western Minnesota > > > >> > > > 1975 07 09 14:54:21.3 UTC> > > >> > > > Magnitude 5.0> > > >> > > > Intensity VI> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in 1860.> > Although> > > the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in the> > central > > > part of the State. Very little information is available aboutthis> > > earthquake.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook the central part of> > > Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects werenoted> > > at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30 mileseast> > > of Staples. > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have been feltwithin> > > the State's borders.> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apartoccurred in> > > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and > > > Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zone> > encompassed> > > an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the> > > southwestern part of Minnesota. > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May 26,1909,> > > affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings> > > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a> > > considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville,> > > Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although details> > ae> > > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or V in> > > southeastern Minnesota.> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in the St.> > > Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt> > widely> > > in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightly felt at > > > Minneapolis.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strongearthquake> > > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the> > > United States estimated at one million square miles. Thistremor was> > > also lightly felt at Minneapolis.> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred on November9,> > > 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake wasfelt> > over> > > approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central United States. > > Minor> > > damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana;and> > St.> > > Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities and townsin the> > > epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at> > > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St. Paul.> > > >> > > > HYPERLINK> >> " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " ht> > tp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18 Hibbing-> > Chis...> > > MN A1> > > >> > > > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester, MN A1 > > > >> > > > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1Brainerd,> > MN A2> > > >> > > > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0 > > Minneapolis, MN A1> > > >> > > > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1> > > >> > > > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 near La > > Center,> > > MN A1> > > >> > > > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest Orient Airlines 6> > > Almelund, MN A1> > > >> > > > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest Orient Airlines 13 > > > Minneapolis, MN A1> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesota’s 5th Infantry fought theSioux> > > Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed. > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted in more> > than> > > 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged,> > > took place in Minnesota.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato,Minn.,> > > for their part in the Sioux Uprising. > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acresand> > > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died. > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern> > > Wisconsin killed about 800.> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota> > > killing 60.> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reportedwith> > > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis.> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine militaryCessna L-> > 19> > > crashed into Green Lake> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloudkilled 4> > > people after construction workers hit a gas line.> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. CroixRiver> > > left as many as 8 people dead.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over> > > wage disputes.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota.> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crash killedSen.> > > Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others.> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > Best wishes,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Jorge Angelino> > > >> > > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29> > > > 2925-598 Azeitão > > > > Portugal> > > >> > > >> > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@> > > > > > > >> > > > tel:> > > > mobile:> > > >> > > > 210813674> > > > 963916784> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > HYPERLINK> > > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > > > \nAdd me to your address book...> > > >> > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature> > like this? > > > >> > >> > >> > > Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew@> wrote: Dear , Thor> > and other list members:> > >> > > I have been following your discussions of Mundane SA Astrology with> > > much interest.> > >> > > I am wondering what one would use for a date and time withregard> > to> > > trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live in Rochester,> > MN> > > and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going> > through> > > the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this pastSunday. > > > There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such> > > visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognized andused> > by> > > many foreign visitors. > > >> > > Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find abirth> > > time for Rochester, MN.> > >> > > Thank you for your time and consideration ... > > >> > > Best Wishes,> > >> > > Mew> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Dear Vyas and Jorge: Gentlemen ... as a rather new SA astrologer ( a little over a year) I find your discussion very educational ... have learned much here that I wasn't aware of and I thank you both. I have printed out Jorge's chart with the history he provided on MN and plan to study it with interest. I have been searching for the time of Rochester, MN incorporation (as suggested by my Professor Davidji) and have at least come up with the day and some suggestions from the City of the Clerk's Office as to finding out the time (if it was recorded). Rochester will be 150 years old in August 2008 and it has some interesting significant historical events ... a book is in the planning to be published regarding its history. So I may be able to bring all these elements together sometime in the future ... it will be a fun study project for me. Again I appreciate your input and wish you both well ... Best Wishes, Mew (aka Mary, Mary Ellen:-) SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > ... I followed exactly what you said the first time dear Jorge. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:06 PM > Re: Re: proposed MN Chart > > > As I said, using Brian's programe, in *zone* (LMT) we have space only for > hours & minutes while in *time* we have space for hours, minutes & seconds. > This fact allows us to be more precise regarding POB, through the field of * > time*. The correct TOB for the POB is 12:00 pm. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Jorge > > > On 5/23/07, Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > > > > Dear Jorge, > > > > Yes you are correct. Within error limits though, it wouldn't make any > > difference unless it's right on an ASC change moment. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > <SAMVA > > > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:09 PM > > Re: Re: proposed MN Chart > > > > > > You are right my dear Vyas...however, using Brian's programe, in *zone* > > (LMT) > > we have space only for hours & minutes while in *time* we have space for > > hours, minutes & seconds. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Jorge > > > > > > On 5/23/07, Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > > > > > > I thought it was to not have to deal with the LMT. > > > > > > Precision would be the same if the LMT was used and the TOB adjusted > > > accordingly. Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > - > > > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > > <SAMVA > > > > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:53 PM > > > Re: Re: proposed MN Chart > > > > > > > > > Dear Mew, > > > > > > It has to do with the possibility of being more precise in the TOB. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > On 5/23/07, Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Jorge: > > > > > > > > Could you please refresh my memory as to why you chose to go with the > > > > GMT time ... I recall a discussion about that in the past with regard > > > > to another SAMVA chart ... > > > > > > > > Thank you for your patience and time ... > > > > > > > > Mew > > > > > > > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mew, > > > > > > > > > > Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota by > > > > Jorge Angelino. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the rectified chart of: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > > > > > > > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT > > > > > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57 > > > > > > > > > > > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > > > > > > > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats > > > > > > > > > > > > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi > > > > > > > > > > > > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su > > > > > > > > > > > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rashi Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > ** 6 * * 4 ** > > > > > > > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * SA 01:38* * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * AS 07:14 * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > ** * * JU 04:50 ** > > > > > > > > > > > > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 * > > > > > > > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > > > > > > > *9 * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * MO 07:01* > > > > > > > > > > > > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49* > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * MER29:29* > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > ** 10 * * 12 ** > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsha > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > ** 4 * * 2 ** > > > > > > > > > > > > *5 * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * SA * RA * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * AS * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * VE * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > > > > > > > *6 * 12 * > > > > > > > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * SU * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * 9 MER * 11 JU * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * KE * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > ** 8 * * 10 ** > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > > > > > > > Admitted > > > > > > > > > > > > May 11, 1858 > > > > > > > > > > > > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of the Minnesota > > > > > River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First European Permanent > > > > > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; Administrative Divisions: 87 > > > > > Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; Electoral Votes: 10 > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > > " http://www.amendment- 13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment- > > > > 13.org/statehood.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 †" 1858), state > > > > > capital (1858 †" current) > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit > > > > ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_an > > > > d_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Minnesota Disaster History > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Major Disaster Declarations > > > > > > > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains 1288 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds And Tornadoes 1225 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding, > > > > > Tornadoes, Heat 1064 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Emergency Declarations > > > > > > > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fire Management Assistance Declarations > > > > > > > > > > > > Year Date Incident Disaster Number > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > > " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema? > > > > id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earthquake History of Minnesota > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Western Minnesota > > > > > > > > > > > > 1975 07 09 14:54:21.3 UTC > > > > > > > > > > > > Magnitude 5.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > Intensity VI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in 1860. > > > > Although > > > > > the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in the > > > > central > > > > > part of the State. Very little information is available about this > > > > > earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook the central part of > > > > > Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects were noted > > > > > at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30 miles east > > > > > of Staples. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have been felt within > > > > > the State's borders. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apart occurred in > > > > > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and > > > > > Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zone > > > > encompassed > > > > > an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the > > > > > southwestern part of Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May 26, 1909, > > > > > affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings > > > > > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a > > > > > considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville, > > > > > Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although details > > > > ae > > > > > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or V in > > > > > southeastern Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in the St. > > > > > Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt > > > > widely > > > > > in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightly felt at > > > > > Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strong earthquake > > > > > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the > > > > > United States estimated at one million square miles. This tremor was > > > > > also lightly felt at Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred on November 9, > > > > > 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake was felt > > > > over > > > > > approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central United States. > > > > Minor > > > > > damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana; and > > > > St. > > > > > Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities and towns in the > > > > > epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at > > > > > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St. Paul. > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > > " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " ht > > > > tp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18 Hibbing- > > > > Chis... > > > > > MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1 Brainerd, > > > > MN A2 > > > > > > > > > > > > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0 > > > > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 near La > > > > Center, > > > > > MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest Orient Airlines 6 > > > > > Almelund, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest Orient Airlines 13 > > > > > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesota’s 5th Infantry fought the Sioux > > > > > Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted in more > > > > than > > > > > 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged, > > > > > took place in Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato, Minn., > > > > > for their part in the Sioux Uprising. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acres and > > > > > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern > > > > > Wisconsin killed about 800. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota > > > > > killing 60. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reported with > > > > > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine military Cessna L- > > > > 19 > > > > > crashed into Green Lake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloud killed 4 > > > > > people after construction workers hit a gas line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. Croix River > > > > > left as many as 8 people dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over > > > > > wage disputes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crash killed Sen. > > > > > Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Angelino > > > > > > > > > > > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > > > > > > 2925-598 Azeitão > > > > > > Portugal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tel: > > > > > > mobile: > > > > > > > > > > > > 210813674 > > > > > > 963916784 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me? u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > > > > > \nAdd me to your address book... > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature > > > > like this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew@> wrote: Dear , Thor > > > > and other list members: > > > > > > > > > > I have been following your discussions of Mundane SA Astrology with > > > > > much interest. > > > > > > > > > > I am wondering what one would use for a date and time with regard > > > > to > > > > > trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live in Rochester, > > > > MN > > > > > and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going > > > > through > > > > > the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this past Sunday. > > > > > There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such > > > > > visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognized and used > > > > by > > > > > many foreign visitors. > > > > > > > > > > Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find a birth > > > > > time for Rochester, MN. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your time and consideration ... > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Mew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Dear Mew, I am happy that you found it useful, and wish you success with the Rochester rectified chart. All the best, Jorge On 5/23/07, Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: Dear Vyas and Jorge:Gentlemen ... as a rather new SA astrologer ( a little over a year) Ifind your discussion very educational ... have learned much here that I wasn't aware of and I thank you both. I have printed out Jorge'schart with the history he provided on MN and plan to study it withinterest. I have been searching for the time of Rochester, MNincorporation (as suggested by my Professor Davidji) and have at least come up with the day and some suggestions from the City of theClerk's Office as to finding out the time (if it was recorded).Rochester will be 150 years old in August 2008 and it has someinteresting significant historical events ... a book is in the planning to be published regarding its history. So I may be able tobring all these elements together sometime in the future ... it willbe a fun study project for me.Again I appreciate your input and wish you both well ... Best Wishes,Mew (aka Mary, Mary Ellen:-)SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote:>> ... I followed exactly what you said the first time dear Jorge. >>> Best regards,>> Vyas Munidas>>> -> " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino> < SAMVA >> Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:06 PM> Re: Re: proposed MN Chart>>> As I said, using Brian's programe, in *zone* (LMT) we have space only for> hours & minutes while in *time* we have space for hours, minutes & seconds.> This fact allows us to be more precise regarding POB, through thefield of *> time*. The correct TOB for the POB is 12:00 pm. >>>> Warm regards,>>>> Jorge>>> On 5/23/07, Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:> >> > Dear Jorge,> >> > Yes you are correct. Within error limits though, it wouldn't make any> > difference unless it's right on an ASC change moment.> >> >> > Best regards,> >> > Vyas Munidas> >> >> > - > > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino> > <SAMVA >> > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:09 PM> > Re: Re: proposed MN Chart > >> >> > You are right my dear Vyas...however, using Brian's programe, in*zone*> > (LMT)> > we have space only for hours & minutes while in *time* we have space for> > hours, minutes & seconds.> >> > Warm regards,> >> > Jorge> >> >> > On 5/23/07, Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:> > > > > > I thought it was to not have to deal with the LMT.> > >> > > Precision would be the same if the LMT was used and the TOBadjusted> > > accordingly. Correct me if I am wrong. > > >> > >> > > Best regards,> > >> > > Vyas Munidas> > >> > >> > > -> > > " Jorge Angelino " < jorge.angelino> > > <SAMVA >> > > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:53 PM> > > Re: Re: proposed MN Chart > > >> > >> > > Dear Mew,> > >> > > It has to do with the possibility of being more precise in theTOB.> > >> > > Best wishes, > > >> > > Jorge> > >> > >> > > On 5/23/07, Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Jorge:> > > > > > > > Could you please refresh my memory as to why you chose to gowith the> > > > GMT time ... I recall a discussion about that in the pastwith regard> > > > to another SAMVA chart ... > > > >> > > > Thank you for your patience and time ...> > > >> > > > Mew> > > >> > > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mew,> > > > >> > > > > Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota by> > > > Jorge Angelino.> > > > >> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Thor> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@>> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List Members,> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > This is the rectified chart of:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > MINNESOTA> > > > > >> > > > > > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT> > > > > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57> > > > > >> > > > > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord> > > > > >> > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > >> > > > > > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke> > > > > >> > > > > > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su > > > > > >> > > > > > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke> > > > > >> > > > > > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa > > > > > >> > > > > > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su> > > > > >> > > > > > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su > > > > > >> > > > > > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo> > > > > >> > > > > > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju > > > > > >> > > > > > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju> > > > > >> > > > > > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats> > > > > > > > > > > > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM> > > > > >> > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi> > > > > >> > > > > > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su > > > > > >> > > > > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Rashi Chart > > > > > >> > > > > > *******************************************************> > > > > >> > > > > > ** 6 * * 4 ** > > > > > >> > > > > > *7 * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * * SA 01:38* * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * AS 07:14 * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > ** * * JU 04:50 ** > > > > > >> > > > > > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 *> > > > > >> > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > >> > > > > > *9 * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * MO 07:01*> > > > > >> > > > > > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49* > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * MER29:29*> > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > ** 10 * * 12 ** > > > > > >> > > > > > *******************************************************> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsha> > > > > >> > > > > > *******************************************************> > > > > >> > > > > > ** 4 * * 2 ** > > > > > >> > > > > > *5 * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * SA * RA * * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * AS * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * VE * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > >> > > > > > *6 * 12 *> > > > > >> > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > >> > > > > > *7 * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * SU * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * 9 MER * 11 JU * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * KE * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > >> > > > > > * * * * * *> > > > > >> > > > > > ** 8 * * 10 ** > > > > > >> > > > > > *******************************************************> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > >> > > > > > Admitted> > > > > >> > > > > > May 11, 1858> > > > > >> > > > > > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of the Minnesota> > > > > River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First EuropeanPermanent> > > > > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; AdministrativeDivisions: 87 > > > > > Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; ElectoralVotes: 10> > > > > >> > > > > > HYPERLINK> > > > > " http://www.amendment-13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment-> > > > 13.org/statehood.html > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 †" 1858), state> > > > > capital (1858 †" current) > > > > > >> > > > > > HYPERLINK> > > >> " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit > > > >ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_an> > > > d_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Minnesota Disaster History> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Major Disaster Declarations> > > > > >> > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number> > > > > > > > > > > > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622> > > > > >> > > > > > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569> > > > > >> > > > > > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419 > > > > > >> > > > > > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370> > > > > >> > > > > > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333> > > > > > > > > > > > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains1288> > > > > >> > > > > > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283> > > > > > > > > > > > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds AndTornadoes 1225> > > > > >> > > > > > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212 > > > > > >> > > > > > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187> > > > > >> > > > > > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175> > > > > > > > > > > > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158> > > > > >> > > > > > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151> > > > > > > > > > > > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116> > > > > >> > > > > > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078> > > > > >> > > > > > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding,> > > > > Tornadoes, Heat 1064> > > > > >> > > > > > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993> > > > > >> > > > > > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946 > > > > > >> > > > > > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929> > > > > >> > > > > > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824> > > > > >> > > > > > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797 > > > > > >> > > > > > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582> > > > > >> > > > > > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560 > > > > > >> > > > > > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555> > > > > >> > > > > > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476 > > > > > >> > > > > > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473> > > > > >> > > > > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446> > > > > > > > > > > > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440> > > > > >> > > > > > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350> > > > > >> > > > > > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > > > > > >> > > > > > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291> > > > > >> > > > > > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268> > > > > > > > > > > > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255> > > > > >> > > > > > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250> > > > > >> > > > > > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249 > > > > > >> > > > > > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215> > > > > >> > > > > > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188> > > > > >> > > > > > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80 > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Emergency Declarations> > > > > >> > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > >> > > > > > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242> > > > > >> > > > > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Fire Management Assistance Declarations> > > > > >> > > > > > Year Date Incident Disaster Number > > > > > >> > > > > > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409> > > > > >> > > > > > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345> > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024> > > > > >> > > > > > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023> > > > > >> > > > > > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022 > > > > > >> > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021> > > > > >> > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020> > > > > >> > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019 > > > > > >> > > > > > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > > " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?> > > > id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Earthquake History of Minnesota > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Western Minnesota> > > > > >> > > > > > 1975 07 09 14:54: 21.3 UTC> > > > > >> > > > > > Magnitude 5.0> > > > > >> > > > > > Intensity VI> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in1860.> > > > Although> > > > > the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in the> > > > central> > > > > part of the State. Very little information is availableabout this> > > > > earthquake.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook thecentral part of> > > > > Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects were noted> > > > > at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30miles east> > > > > of Staples.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have beenfelt within> > > > > the State's borders.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apartoccurred in> > > > > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and> > > > > Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zone> > > > encompassed> > > > > an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the> > > > > southwestern part of Minnesota. > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May26, 1909,> > > > > affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings> > > > > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a> > > > > considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville,> > > > > Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although details> > > > ae> > > > > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or Vin> > > > > southeastern Minnesota.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in theSt.> > > > > Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt> > > > widely> > > > > in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightlyfelt at> > > > > Minneapolis.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strongearthquake> > > > > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the> > > > > United States estimated at one million square miles. Thistremor was> > > > > also lightly felt at Minneapolis.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred onNovember 9,> > > > > 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake was felt> > > > over> > > > > approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central UnitedStates.> > > > Minor> > > > > damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana; and> > > > St.> > > > > Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities andtowns in the> > > > > epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at> > > > > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St.Paul.> > > > > >> > > > > > HYPERLINK> > > >> " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " ht> > > > tp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18Hibbing-> > > > Chis... > > > > > MN A1> > > > > >> > > > > > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester,MN A1> > > > > >> > > > > > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1 Brainerd,> > > > MN A2> > > > > >> > > > > > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0> > > > Minneapolis, MN A1> > > > > > > > > > > > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1> > > > > >> > > > > > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 nearLa > > > > Center,> > > > > MN A1> > > > > >> > > > > > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest OrientAirlines 6> > > > > Almelund, MN A1 > > > > > >> > > > > > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest OrientAirlines 13> > > > > Minneapolis, MN A1> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesota’s 5th Infantry foughtthe Sioux> > > > > Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted inmore> > > > than> > > > > 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged,> > > > > took place in Minnesota.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato, Minn.,> > > > > for their part in the Sioux Uprising.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acres and> > > > > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern> > > > > Wisconsin killed about 800.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota> > > > > killing 60.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reported with> > > > > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine military Cessna L-> > > > 19> > > > > crashed into Green Lake> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloud killed 4> > > > > people after construction workers hit a gas line.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. Croix River> > > > > left as many as 8 people dead.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over> > > > > wage disputes.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crashkilled Sen.> > > > > Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others. > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Angelino> > > > > >> > > > > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense,29> > > > > > 2925-598 Azeitão > > > > > > Portugal> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@ > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > tel:> > > > > > mobile:> > > > > >> > > > > > 210813674 > > > > > > 963916784> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > > > > > \nAdd me to your address book... > > > > > >> > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant asignature> > > > like this? > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew@> wrote: Dear ,Thor> > > > and other list members: > > > > >> > > > > I have been following your discussions of Mundane SAAstrology with> > > > > much interest.> > > > >> > > > > I am wondering what one would use for a date and time with regard> > > > to> > > > > trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live inRochester,> > > > MN> > > > > and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going> > > > through> > > > > the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this pastSunday.> > > > > There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such> > > > > visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognizedand used> > > > by> > > > > many foreign visitors.> > > > >> > > > > Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find a birth> > > > > time for Rochester, MN.> > > > >> > > > > Thank you for your time and consideration ...> > > > >> > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > >> > > > > Mew> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Your welcome! Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Mary Ellen Wright " <wdwmew <SAMVA > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:54 PM Re: proposed MN chart Hello Vyas: Thank you for the advice ... I appreciate your time and consideration ... Best Wishes, Mary SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > You should check to see if this chart is based on historical data. David's > suggestion is best to confirm or deny. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " Mary Ellen Wright " <wdwmew > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:20 AM > Re: proposed MN chart > > > Dear Thor: > > Thank you for this information regarding Minnesota's proposed > chart ... it's very interesting ... and my thanks to Jorge for his > time and knowledge put into the MN chart ... > > Best Wishes, > > Mew > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mew, > > > > Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota by > Jorge Angelino. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the rectified chart of: > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT > > > > > > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57 > > > > > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke > > > > > > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su > > > > > > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke > > > > > > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa > > > > > > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo > > > > > > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju > > > > > > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju > > > > > > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats > > > > > > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi > > > > > > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su > > > > > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag > > > > > > > > > > > > Rashi Chart > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > ** 6 * * 4 ** > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * SA 01:38* * > > > > > > * * * AS 07:14 * * * > > > > > > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > ** * * JU 04:50 ** > > > > > > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 * > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > *9 * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * MO 07:01* > > > > > > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49* > > > > > > * * * * * MER29:29* > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > ** 10 * * 12 ** > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsha > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > ** 4 * * 2 ** > > > > > > *5 * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * SA * RA * * > > > > > > * * * AS * * * > > > > > > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 * > > > > > > * * * VE * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > *6 * 12 * > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * SU * * * > > > > > > * * 9 MER * 11 JU * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * KE * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > ** 8 * * 10 ** > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > Admitted > > > > > > May 11, 1858 > > > > > > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of the Minnesota > > River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First European Permanent > > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; Administrative Divisions: 87 > > Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; Electoral Votes: 10 > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " http://www.amendment-13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment- > 13.org/statehood.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 â? " 1858), state > > capital (1858 â? " current) > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit > ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_an > d_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states > > > > > > > > > > > > Minnesota Disaster History > > > > > > > > > > > > Major Disaster Declarations > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622 > > > > > > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569 > > > > > > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419 > > > > > > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370 > > > > > > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333 > > > > > > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains 1288 > > > > > > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283 > > > > > > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds And Tornadoes 1225 > > > > > > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212 > > > > > > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187 > > > > > > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175 > > > > > > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158 > > > > > > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151 > > > > > > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116 > > > > > > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078 > > > > > > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding, > > Tornadoes, Heat 1064 > > > > > > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993 > > > > > > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946 > > > > > > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929 > > > > > > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824 > > > > > > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797 > > > > > > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582 > > > > > > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560 > > > > > > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555 > > > > > > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476 > > > > > > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473 > > > > > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446 > > > > > > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440 > > > > > > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350 > > > > > > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > > > > > > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291 > > > > > > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268 > > > > > > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255 > > > > > > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250 > > > > > > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249 > > > > > > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215 > > > > > > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188 > > > > > > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80 > > > > > > > > > > > > Emergency Declarations > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242 > > > > > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013 > > > > > > > > > > > > Fire Management Assistance Declarations > > > > > > Year Date Incident Disaster Number > > > > > > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409 > > > > > > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345 > > > > > > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024 > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023 > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022 > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021 > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020 > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019 > > > > > > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018 > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema? > id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27 > > > > > > > > > > > > Earthquake History of Minnesota > > > > > > > > > > > > Western Minnesota > > > > > > 1975 07 09 14:54:21.3 UTC > > > > > > Magnitude 5.0 > > > > > > Intensity VI > > > > > > > > > > > > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in 1860. > Although > > the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in the > central > > part of the State. Very little information is available about this > > earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook the central part of > > Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects were noted > > at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30 miles east > > of Staples. > > > > > > > > > > > > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have been felt within > > the State's borders. > > > > > > > > > > > > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apart occurred in > > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and > > Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zone > encompassed > > an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the > > southwestern part of Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May 26, 1909, > > affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings > > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a > > considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville, > > Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although details > ae > > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or V in > > southeastern Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in the St. > > Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt > widely > > in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightly felt at > > Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strong earthquake > > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the > > United States estimated at one million square miles. This tremor was > > also lightly felt at Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred on November 9, > > 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake was felt > over > > approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central United States. > Minor > > damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana; and > St. > > Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities and towns in the > > epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at > > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St. Paul. > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " ht > tp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php > > > > > > > > > > > > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18 Hibbing- > Chis... > > MN A1 > > > > > > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester, MN A1 > > > > > > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1 Brainerd, > MN A2 > > > > > > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0 > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1 > > > > > > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 near La > Center, > > MN A1 > > > > > > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest Orient Airlines 6 > > Almelund, MN A1 > > > > > > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest Orient Airlines 13 > > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesotaâ?Ts 5th Infantry fought the Sioux > > Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted in more > than > > 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged, > > took place in Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato, Minn., > > for their part in the Sioux Uprising. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acres and > > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern > > Wisconsin killed about 800. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota > > killing 60. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reported with > > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine military Cessna L- > 19 > > crashed into Green Lake > > > > > > > > > > > > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloud killed 4 > > people after construction workers hit a gas line. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. Croix River > > left as many as 8 people dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over > > wage disputes. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crash killed Sen. > > Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Angelino > > > > > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > > > 2925-598 Azeitão > > > Portugal > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@ > > > > > > > > > tel: > > > mobile: > > > > > > 210813674 > > > 963916784 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me? u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > > \nAdd me to your address book... > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature > like this? > > > > > > > > > Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew@> wrote: Dear , Thor > and other list members: > > > > I have been following your discussions of Mundane SA Astrology with > > much interest. > > > > I am wondering what one would use for a date and time with regard > to > > trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live in Rochester, > MN > > and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going > through > > the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this past Sunday. > > There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such > > visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognized and used > by > > many foreign visitors. > > > > Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find a birth > > time for Rochester, MN. > > > > Thank you for your time and consideration ... > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Mew > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Hi Mary, I look forward to your follow-up post on this. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Mary Ellen Wright " <wdwmew <SAMVA > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:13 PM Re: proposed MN Chart Dear Vyas and Jorge: Gentlemen ... as a rather new SA astrologer ( a little over a year) I find your discussion very educational ... have learned much here that I wasn't aware of and I thank you both. I have printed out Jorge's chart with the history he provided on MN and plan to study it with interest. I have been searching for the time of Rochester, MN incorporation (as suggested by my Professor Davidji) and have at least come up with the day and some suggestions from the City of the Clerk's Office as to finding out the time (if it was recorded). Rochester will be 150 years old in August 2008 and it has some interesting significant historical events ... a book is in the planning to be published regarding its history. So I may be able to bring all these elements together sometime in the future ... it will be a fun study project for me. Again I appreciate your input and wish you both well ... Best Wishes, Mew (aka Mary, Mary Ellen:-) SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > ... I followed exactly what you said the first time dear Jorge. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > <SAMVA > > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:06 PM > Re: Re: proposed MN Chart > > > As I said, using Brian's programe, in *zone* (LMT) we have space only for > hours & minutes while in *time* we have space for hours, minutes & seconds. > This fact allows us to be more precise regarding POB, through the field of * > time*. The correct TOB for the POB is 12:00 pm. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Jorge > > > On 5/23/07, Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > > > > Dear Jorge, > > > > Yes you are correct. Within error limits though, it wouldn't make any > > difference unless it's right on an ASC change moment. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > <SAMVA > > > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:09 PM > > Re: Re: proposed MN Chart > > > > > > You are right my dear Vyas...however, using Brian's programe, in *zone* > > (LMT) > > we have space only for hours & minutes while in *time* we have space for > > hours, minutes & seconds. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Jorge > > > > > > On 5/23/07, Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > > > > > > I thought it was to not have to deal with the LMT. > > > > > > Precision would be the same if the LMT was used and the TOB adjusted > > > accordingly. Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > - > > > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > > <SAMVA > > > > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:53 PM > > > Re: Re: proposed MN Chart > > > > > > > > > Dear Mew, > > > > > > It has to do with the possibility of being more precise in the TOB. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > On 5/23/07, Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Jorge: > > > > > > > > Could you please refresh my memory as to why you chose to go with the > > > > GMT time ... I recall a discussion about that in the past with regard > > > > to another SAMVA chart ... > > > > > > > > Thank you for your patience and time ... > > > > > > > > Mew > > > > > > > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mew, > > > > > > > > > > Enclosed is a chart proposed for the US state of Minnesota by > > > > Jorge Angelino. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the rectified chart of: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > > > > > > > May 11, 1858 6:12:22 PM +00:00 GMT > > > > > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, MN:USA Longitude: 93W06 Latitude: 44N57 > > > > > > > > > > > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 21:52 Current Period: SU/ME/SA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > Asc 07:14 Leo Magha Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun 28:49 Ari +00:57:55 WK Krittika Su > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon 07:01 Ari +14:37:10 FM Aswini Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > MarsR 04:32 Sco -00:20:16 WK Anuradha Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > MercR 29:29 Ari -00:35:29 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupt 04:50 Tau +00:14:06 CM Krittika Su > > > > > > > > > > > > Ven 17:10 Tau +01:13:25 WK Rohini Mo > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat 01:38 Can +00:04:51 WK Punarvasu Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu 23:47 Aqu -00:06:36 FM P.Bhadra Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu 23:47 Leo -00:06:36 FM P.Phalguni Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 800 beats > > > > > > > > > > > > Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 10:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturdashi > > > > > > > > > > > > Yoga Pt: 9:10 Le Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Su > > > > > > > > > > > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rashi Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > ** 6 * * 4 ** > > > > > > > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * SA 01:38* * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * AS 07:14 * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * 5 KE 23:47 * 3 * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > ** * * JU 04:50 ** > > > > > > > > > > > > *8 MAR04:32 * 2 VE 17:10 * > > > > > > > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > > > > > > > *9 * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * MO 07:01* > > > > > > > > > > > > * * 11 RA 23:47 * 1 SU 28:49* > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * MER29:29* > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > ** 10 * * 12 ** > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsha > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > ** 4 * * 2 ** > > > > > > > > > > > > *5 * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * SA * RA * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * AS * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > *MAR * 3 MO * 1 * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * VE * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > > > > > > > *6 * 12 * > > > > > > > > > > > > ** * * ** > > > > > > > > > > > > *7 * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * SU * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * 9 MER * 11 JU * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * KE * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > ** 8 * * 10 ** > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MINNESOTA > > > > > > > > > > > > Admitted > > > > > > > > > > > > May 11, 1858 > > > > > > > > > > > > Order - 32nd Named from the Sioux description of the Minnesota > > > > > River, " sky-tinted water " or " muddy water. " First European Permanent > > > > > Settlement: 1805; Capitol: Saint Paul; Administrative Divisions: 87 > > > > > Counties; National Representatives: 8 seats; Electoral Votes: 10 > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > > " http://www.amendment- 13.org/statehood.html " http://www.amendment- > > > > 13.org/statehood.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saint Paul, Minnesota, Territorial capital (1849 ââ,¬ " 1858), state > > > > > capital (1858 ââ,¬ " current) > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_and_former_capital_cit > > > > ies_within_U.S._states " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_an > > > > d_former_capital_cities_within_U.S._states > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Minnesota Disaster History > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Major Disaster Declarations > > > > > > > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006 01/04 Severe Winter Storm 1622 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2004 10/07 Severe Storms and Flooding 1569 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 06/14 Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes 1419 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 05/16 Flooding 1370 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2000 06/27 Severe Storms, Flooding And Tornadoes 1333 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1999 08/26 Severe Ice Storms, Flooding and Heavy Rains 1288 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1999 07/28 Severe Storms, Winds and Flooding 1283 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1998 06/23 Severe Storms, Straight-Line Winds And Tornadoes 1225 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1998 04/01 Tornadoes and Severe Thunderstorms 1212 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997 08/25 Flooding 1187 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997 04/08 Severe Storms/Flooding 1175 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997 01/16 Severe Winter Storms/Blizzards 1158 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997 01/07 Severe Storms/Heavy Snow 1151 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1996 06/01 Flooding 1116 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1996 01/05 Storms/Freezing Rain 1078 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1995 08/18 Severe Storm, Thunderstorm, High Winds, Flooding, > > > > > Tornadoes, Heat 1064 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1993 06/11 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 993 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1992 06/26 Flooding, Severe Storm, Tornadoes 946 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1991 12/26 Ice Storm 929 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1989 05/08 FLOODING 824 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1987 08/06 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 797 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1979 04/30 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 582 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1978 07/08 Severe Storms, Tornadoes, Hail, Flooding 560 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1978 04/22 STORMS, ICE JAMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 555 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1975 07/17 SEVERE STORMS, TORNADOES, FLOODING 476 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1975 07/05 FLOODING 473 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1974 07/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 446 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1974 06/10 Heavy Rains, Flooding 440 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1972 08/25 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 350 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1972 08/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 347 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1970 07/22 Heavy Rains, Flooding 291 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1969 08/05 Heavy Rains, Flooding 268 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1969 04/18 FLOODING 255 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1968 09/09 Heavy Rains, Flooding 250 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1968 08/15 Heavy Rains, Flooding 249 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1966 03/22 FLOODING 215 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1965 04/11 FLOODING 188 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1957 06/22 FLOODS 80 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Emergency Declarations > > > > > > > > > > > > Year Date Disaster Types Active Disaster Number > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005 09/13 Hurricane Katrina Evacuation 3242 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 06/17 Drought 3013 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fire Management Assistance Declarations > > > > > > > > > > > > Year Date Incident Disaster Number > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 06/01 By Pass Fire 2409 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2000 10/20 Carlos Edge Fire Complex 2345 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 10/01 McGregor Fire 2024 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Galvin Line 2023 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Little Swan 2022 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tate 2021 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tamarack 2020 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/11 Tower 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1976 09/08 Huntersville 2018 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > > " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema? > > > > id=27 " http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earthquake History of Minnesota > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Western Minnesota > > > > > > > > > > > > 1975 07 09 14:54:21.3 UTC > > > > > > > > > > > > Magnitude 5.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > Intensity VI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first record of an earthquake in Minnesota was in 1860. > > > > Although > > > > > the exact date is unknown, the shock was fairly strong in the > > > > central > > > > > part of the State. Very little information is available about this > > > > > earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On September 3, 1917, another earthquake shook the central part of > > > > > Minnesota. Intensity VI (Modified Mercalli scale) effects were noted > > > > > at Staples. The shock was also felt at Brainerd, about 30 miles east > > > > > of Staples. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several tremors located outside of Minnesota have been felt within > > > > > the State's borders. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On November 15, 1877, two earthquakes 45 minutes apart occurred in > > > > > eastern Nebraska. The shocks caused damage at North Platte and > > > > > Columbus, Nebraska and at Sioux City, Iowa. The felt zone > > > > encompassed > > > > > an elliptical area roughly 600 by 300 miles, including the > > > > > southwestern part of Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake centered in Illinois occurred on May 26, 1909, > > > > > affecting an area of approximately 500,000 square miles, includings > > > > > parts of Minnesota. Intensity VII effects were noted over a > > > > > considerable area from Bloomington, Illinois to Platteville, > > > > > Wisconsin. Many chimneys fell at Aurora, Illinois. Although details > > > > ae > > > > > lacking, this shock was probably felt at intensity IV or V in > > > > > southeastern Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong earthquake on February 28, 1925, centered in the St. > > > > > Lawrence River region near La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, was felt > > > > widely > > > > > in the Northeastern United States. The shock was lightly felt at > > > > > Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ten years later, on November 1, 1935, another strong earthquake > > > > > occurred near Timiskaming, Canada and was felt over an area of the > > > > > United States estimated at one million square miles. This tremor was > > > > > also lightly felt at Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A recent earthquake to affect Minnesota occurred on November 9, > > > > > 1968. Centered in south-central Illinois, the earthquake was felt > > > > over > > > > > approximately 580,000 square miles of the Central United States. > > > > Minor > > > > > damage was reported at Chicago, Illinois; Evansville, Indiana; and > > > > St. > > > > > Louis, Missouri, as well as from a number of cities and towns in the > > > > > epicentral area. Intensity I-IV effects were noted in Minnesota at > > > > > Austin, Glencoe, Mankato, Minneapolis, Rochester, and St. Paul. > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > > " http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php " ht > > > > tp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/minnesota/history.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 01-DEC-1993 Jetstream 31 N334PX Northwest Airlink 18 Hibbing- > > > > Chis... > > > > > MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 08-DEC-1985 Learjet 35 N15TW Corporate Air 3 Rochester, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 09-JAN-1983 Convair CV-580 N8444H Republic Airlines 1 Brainerd, > > > > MN A2 > > > > > > > > > > > > 20-DEC-1978 Learjet 25 N40SN Flight Training Center 0 > > > > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 07-MAR-1973 Sabreliner N9503Z Ziegler Inc 2 Blaine, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 11-JUL-1967 G-159 Gulfstream N861H Honeywell Inc. 2 near La > > > > Center, > > > > > MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 13-OCT-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93037 Northwest Orient Airlines 6 > > > > > Almelund, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 07-MAR-1950 Martin 2-0-2 NC93050 Northwest Orient Airlines 13 > > > > > Minneapolis, MN A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 8, Minnesotaââ,¬â " ¢s 5th Infantry fought the Sioux > > > > > Indians in Redwood, Minn., and 24 soldiers were killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Aug 17, The Sioux Uprising, which resulted in more > > > > than > > > > > 800 white settlers dead and 38 Sioux Indians condemned and hanged, > > > > > took place in Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1862 Dec 26, 38 Santee Sioux were hanged in Mankato, Minn., > > > > > for their part in the Sioux Uprising. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1894 Sep 1-2, Forest fires ravaged over 160,000 acres and > > > > > destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota. About 600 people died. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1918 Oct 12, A forest fire in Minnesota and Northern > > > > > Wisconsin killed about 800. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1941 Mar 16, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota > > > > > killing 60. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Feb 19, Hail the size of baseballs was reported with > > > > > flash lightning over parts of Minneapolis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1958 Oct 4, In Minnesota a single engine military Cessna L- > > > > 19 > > > > > crashed into Green Lake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1998 Dec 11, A natural gas explosion in St. Cloud killed 4 > > > > > people after construction workers hit a gas line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1999 Jul 3, A power boat collision on the St. Croix River > > > > > left as many as 8 people dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 1, Some 28,000 state workers went on strike over > > > > > wage disputes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2001 Oct 24, A blizzard hit North Dakota and Minnesota. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2002 Oct 25, In Minnesota a small plane crash killed Sen. > > > > > Paul Wellstone (58), his wife, daughter and 5 others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Angelino > > > > > > > > > > > > Rua da Sociedade FilarmÃf³nica PerpÃf©tua Azeitonense, 29 > > > > > > 2925-598 AzeitÃf£o > > > > > > Portugal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tel: > > > > > > mobile: > > > > > > > > > > > > 210813674 > > > > > > 963916784 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > > > > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me? u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " > > > > > \nAdd me to your address book... > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature > > > > like this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary Ellen Wright <wdwmew@> wrote: Dear , Thor > > > > and other list members: > > > > > > > > > > I have been following your discussions of Mundane SA Astrology with > > > > > much interest. > > > > > > > > > > I am wondering what one would use for a date and time with regard > > > > to > > > > > trying to establish an SA Chart for a City? I live in Rochester, > > > > MN > > > > > and the President of Iraq is visiting for 3 weeks while going > > > > through > > > > > the Mayo Clinic Medical Clinic here. He arrived this past Sunday. > > > > > There are the usual FBI agents and security in place for such > > > > > visits ... the Mayo Clinic is Internationally recognized and used > > > > by > > > > > many foreign visitors. > > > > > > > > > > Just thought it might be interesting to see if I could find a birth > > > > > time for Rochester, MN. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your time and consideration ... > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Mew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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