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Dear Narendra,

 

I did a search on the SAMVA area and found in Message

#12679 that Jorge had posted:

 

PAKISTAN

Aug 14, 1947 9:30 AM -05:30 INT

Karachi, Pakistan Longitude: 67E03 Latitude: 24N52

 

Giving a Virgo 5:46 ascendant.

 

BTW, if you are using Jyotish Tools, it will default to R4T (-5:00)

zone giving a Virgo 12:36 unless you have the ACS atlas add-on which

contains historic DSTs and war-time changes.

 

Goravani Jyotish (GJ) gives INT -5:30, as posted by Jorge, which

yields Virgo 5:46 and GJ has the very accurate ACS Atlas built-in

database of locations and historical DST and war-times etc..

 

Would love to hear your thoughts once you've have a chance to review

the chart.

 

Regards,

 

Matt

 

SAMVA , " naren.dra1 " <naren.dra wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> These days Nawaz Sharrif and Benazzir Bhuto are competeing with each

> other to become PAKISTAN's PM and to oust Musharraf.

>

> PAKISTAN in turmoil again?

>

> Where can i get Pakistan's chart?

>

> Please advise.

>

> Narendra.

>

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Dear friends,

 

I believe the time most Pakistani astrologers view as the

historically important is midnight of that day, giving 23° Aries

rising. A midnight time is used for India, which gained (and

celebrates) its independence on the following day.

 

Wkipedia: " Pakistan was formed on 14 August 1947 with two Muslim-

majority wings in the eastern and northwestern regions of the British

India, separated from the rest of the country with a Hindu majority,

and comprising the provinces of Balochistan, East Bengal, the North-

West Frontier Province, West Punjab and Sindh. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan

 

For comparison, it might be helpful to review the historical

rationale for the Virgo rising chart.

 

In any event, it would seem that an analysis of the chart potential

of the charts presented and predictions based on them on the basis of

SA would be required to settle the matter.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , " Matt " <hunt4genestocks wrote:

>

> Dear Narendra,

>

> I did a search on the SAMVA area and found in Message

> #12679 that Jorge had posted:

>

> PAKISTAN

> Aug 14, 1947 9:30 AM -05:30 INT

> Karachi, Pakistan Longitude: 67E03 Latitude: 24N52

>

> Giving a Virgo 5:46 ascendant.

>

> BTW, if you are using Jyotish Tools, it will default to R4T (-5:00)

> zone giving a Virgo 12:36 unless you have the ACS atlas add-on which

> contains historic DSTs and war-time changes.

>

> Goravani Jyotish (GJ) gives INT -5:30, as posted by Jorge, which

> yields Virgo 5:46 and GJ has the very accurate ACS Atlas built-in

> database of locations and historical DST and war-times etc..

>

> Would love to hear your thoughts once you've have a chance to review

> the chart.

>

> Regards,

>

> Matt

>

> SAMVA , " naren.dra1 " <naren.dra@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > These days Nawaz Sharrif and Benazzir Bhuto are competeing with

each

> > other to become PAKISTAN's PM and to oust Musharraf.

> >

> > PAKISTAN in turmoil again?

> >

> > Where can i get Pakistan's chart?

> >

> > Please advise.

> >

> > Narendra.

> >

>

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Pakistan's Independence

Aug 14, 1947 12:00 AM -05:30 LMT

Karachi, Pakistan Longitude: 67E03 Latitude: 24N51

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:07 Current Period: KE/ME/RA

 

Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

================================================

Asc 23:15 Ari Bharani Ve

Sun 27:01 Can +00:57:38 WK Aslesha Me

Moon 18:58 Gem +14:52:57 WK Ardra Ra

Mars 06:47 Gem +00:39:33 ST Ardra Ra

Merc 11:53 Can +01:44:57 FM Pushya Sa

Jupt 25:47 Lib +00:04:58 WK Vishakha Ju

Ven 21:19 Can +01:14:05 CM Aslesha Me

Sat 20:20 Can +00:07:41 CM Aslesha Me

Rahu 05:51 Tau -00:06:00 FM Krittika Su

Ketu 05:51 Sco -00:06:00 FM Anuradha Sa

 

True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 813 beats

Day: Thursday Sunrise: 6:36 AM

Tithi: Krishna Dvadashi

Yoga Pt: 19:19 Cp Yogi:Mo AviYogi:Me Dup Yogi: Sa

Dagha Rashis: Lib Cap

 

Sytems Approach Analysis

========================

Sun Good Placement, In Old Age: 40%, Weak Dispositor,

Moon Good Placement, Moon Not Bright 47%,

Mars Good Placement,

Mercury Good Placement, Weak Dispositor,

Jupiter Good Placement, In Old Age: 15%, Weak Dispositor,

Venus Good Placement, Combust 50%, Weak Dispositor,

Saturn Good Placement, Combust 60%, Weak Dispositor,

Rahu Good Placement,

Ketu Bad Placement,

 

Rashi Chart

*******************************************************

** 2 * * 12 **

*3 * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* RA 05:51* * * *

*MA 06:47 * * * * *

*MO 18:58 * 1 AS 23:15 * 11 *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * ME 11:53 * * * *

** SA 20:20 * * **

*4 VE 21:19 * 10 *

** SU 27:01 * * **

*5 * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * 7 JU 25:47 * 9 *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * KE 05:51 * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

** 6 * * 8 **

*******************************************************

 

Navamsha

*******************************************************

** 8 * * 6 **

*9 * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * AS * * *

*MA * 7 ME * 5 KE *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

** VE * * **

*10 SA * 4 *

** * * **

*11* * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

*RA * 1 * 3 *

* * * * * *

* SU * * * *

* * MO * * JU * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

** 12 * * 2 **

*******************************************************

 

Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis

========================

Ra/Mo 13/06/1946

Ra/Ma 13/12/1947

Ju/Ju 31/12/1948

Ju/Sa 18/02/1951

Ju/Me 31/08/1953

Ju/Ke 07/12/1955

Ju/Ve 12/11/1956

Ju/Su 14/07/1959

Ju/Mo 01/05/1960

Ju/Ma 31/08/1961

Ju/Ra 07/08/1962

Sa/Sa 31/12/1964

Sa/Me 03/01/1968

Sa/Ke 12/09/1970

Sa/Ve 22/10/1971

Sa/Su 22/12/1974

Sa/Mo 04/12/1975

Sa/Ma 04/07/1977

Sa/Ra 13/08/1978

Sa/Ju 19/06/1981

Me/Me 31/12/1983

Me/Ke 29/05/1986

Me/Ve 26/05/1987

Me/Su 26/03/1990

Me/Mo 30/01/1991

Me/Ma 01/07/1992

Me/Ra 28/06/1993

Me/Ju 15/01/1996

Me/Sa 22/04/1998

Ke/Ke 30/12/2000

Ke/Ve 29/05/2001

Ke/Su 29/07/2002

Ke/Mo 04/12/2002

Ke/Ma 05/07/2003

Ke/Ra 01/12/2003

Ke/Ju 18/12/2004

Ke/Sa 24/11/2005

Ke/Me 03/01/2007

Ve/Ve 31/12/2007

Ve/Su 02/05/2011

Ve/Mo 01/05/2012

Ve/Ma 31/12/2013

Ve/Ra 02/03/2015

Ve/Ju 02/03/2018

Ve/Sa 31/10/2020

Ve/Me 31/12/2023

Ve/Ke 31/10/2026

Su/Su 31/12/2027

Su/Mo 19/04/2028

Su/Ma 18/10/2028

Su/Ra 23/02/2029

Su/Ju 18/01/2030

Su/Sa 06/11/2030

Su/Me 19/10/2031

Su/Ke 25/08/2032

Su/Ve 31/12/2032

Mo/Mo 31/12/2033

Mo/Ma 31/10/2034

Mo/Ra 01/06/2035

Mo/Ju 30/11/2036

Mo/Sa 01/04/2038

Mo/Me 31/10/2039

Mo/Ke 01/04/2041

Mo/Ve 31/10/2041

Mo/Su 02/07/2043

Ma/Ma 31/12/2043

Ma/Ra 28/05/2044

Ma/Ju 16/06/2045

Ma/Sa 23/05/2046

Ma/Me 02/07/2047

Ma/Ke 28/06/2048

Ma/Ve 24/11/2048

Ma/Su 24/01/2050

Ma/Mo 01/06/2050

 

Pakistan is undergoing KE-Me-RA dasha period and I believe the ME is the

FM is nearing the the 6th house of disputes in coming days. So there

could be problems.

Besides that the RAHU always aspects the 6th house.

 

Please let me know if there is anything else. I am a learner and have

missed out some vital points.

 

Thank you.

 

Narendra.

 

SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> I believe the time most Pakistani astrologers view as the

> historically important is midnight of that day, giving 23° Aries

> rising. A midnight time is used for India, which gained (and

> celebrates) its independence on the following day.

>

> Wkipedia: " Pakistan was formed on 14 August 1947 with two Muslim-

> majority wings in the eastern and northwestern regions of the British

> India, separated from the rest of the country with a Hindu majority,

> and comprising the provinces of Balochistan, East Bengal, the North-

> West Frontier Province, West Punjab and Sindh. "

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan

>

> For comparison, it might be helpful to review the historical

> rationale for the Virgo rising chart.

>

> In any event, it would seem that an analysis of the chart potential

> of the charts presented and predictions based on them on the basis of

> SA would be required to settle the matter.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

> SAMVA , " Matt " hunt4genestocks@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Narendra,

> >

> > I did a search on the SAMVA area and found in Message

> > #12679 that Jorge had posted:

> >

> > PAKISTAN

> > Aug 14, 1947 9:30 AM -05:30 INT

> > Karachi, Pakistan Longitude: 67E03 Latitude: 24N52

> >

> > Giving a Virgo 5:46 ascendant.

> >

> > BTW, if you are using Jyotish Tools, it will default to R4T (-5:00)

> > zone giving a Virgo 12:36 unless you have the ACS atlas add-on which

> > contains historic DSTs and war-time changes.

> >

> > Goravani Jyotish (GJ) gives INT -5:30, as posted by Jorge, which

> > yields Virgo 5:46 and GJ has the very accurate ACS Atlas built-in

> > database of locations and historical DST and war-times etc..

> >

> > Would love to hear your thoughts once you've have a chance to review

> > the chart.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Matt

> >

> > SAMVA , " naren.dra1 " <naren.dra@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > These days Nawaz Sharrif and Benazzir Bhuto are competeing with

> each

> > > other to become PAKISTAN's PM and to oust Musharraf.

> > >

> > > PAKISTAN in turmoil again?

> > >

> > > Where can i get Pakistan's chart?

> > >

> > > Please advise.

> > >

> > > Narendra.

> > >

> >

>

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Hello Narendra,L6 Mercury is about to enter Virgo H6, this would be good for the indications of the 6th house. Natally, Mercury in Cancer H4 is well placed. Its dispositor L4 Moon, is also well placed and strong in H3 MEP, where it aspects H9 of luck. It is also under aspect from L9 Jupiter H7 MEP, and thus Pakistan has good fortune regarding e.g. real estate and natural resources. Given the favourable condition of Moon, the dispositor of Merucy, the Mercury sub-period would be expected to be good for its indications, even when it enters H6 in transit. Moreover, as 4th house includes "real estate" there would be a tendency for conflict to be associated with such indication. The conflict over Kashmir is a good example of that karma. With the good fortune related to Moon as L4 Pakistan would not be expected to be harmed by such conflict, rather it could be lucky. This luck was manifest at the birth of the country, when India ceded a huge land for the muslim

population.By the way, Rahu at 6° Taurus H2 does not cast an aspect to H6 MEP (18°-28° Virgo). However, its presence in H2 does suggest Pakistan can experience disturbances in relations with neighbours as well as within the country.Best wishes,Thor"naren.dra1" <naren.dra wrote: Pakistan's IndependenceAug 14, 1947 12:00 AM -05:30 LMTKarachi, Pakistan Longitude: 67E03 Latitude: 24N51Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:07 Current Period: KE/ME/RAPlanet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord================================================Asc 23:15 Ari Bharani VeSun 27:01 Can +00:57:38 WK Aslesha MeMoon 18:58 Gem +14:52:57 WK Ardra RaMars 06:47 Gem +00:39:33 ST Ardra RaMerc 11:53 Can +01:44:57 FM Pushya SaJupt 25:47 Lib +00:04:58 WK Vishakha JuVen 21:19 Can +01:14:05 CM Aslesha MeSat 20:20 Can +00:07:41 CM Aslesha MeRahu 05:51 Tau -00:06:00 FM Krittika SuKetu 05:51 Sco -00:06:00 FM Anuradha SaTrue Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 813 beatsDay: Thursday Sunrise: 6:36 AMTithi: Krishna DvadashiYoga Pt: 19:19 Cp Yogi:Mo AviYogi:Me Dup Yogi: SaDagha Rashis: Lib CapSytems Approach Analysis========================Sun Good Placement, In Old Age: 40%, Weak Dispositor,Moon Good Placement, Moon Not Bright 47%,Mars Good Placement,Mercury Good Placement, Weak Dispositor,Jupiter Good Placement, In Old Age: 15%, Weak Dispositor,Venus Good Placement, Combust 50%, Weak Dispositor,Saturn Good Placement, Combust 60%, Weak Dispositor,Rahu Good Placement,Ketu Bad Placement,Rashi

Chart********************************************************* 2 * * 12 ***3 * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * ** RA 05:51* * * **MA 06:47 * * * * **MO 18:58 * 1 AS 23:15 * 11 ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * ME 11:53 * * * *** SA 20:20 * * ***4 VE 21:19 * 10 *** SU 27:01 * * ***5 * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * 7 JU 25:47 * 9 ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * KE 05:51 * ** * * * * ** * * * * *** 6 * * 8 *********************************************************Navamsha********************************************************* 8 * * 6 ***9 * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * * AS * * **MA * 7 ME * 5 KE ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * *** VE * * ***10 SA * 4 *** * * ***11* * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * **RA * 1 * 3 ** * * * * ** SU * * * ** * MO * * JU * ** * * * * ** * * * * *** 12 * * 2 *********************************************************Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis========================Ra/Mo 13/06/1946Ra/Ma 13/12/1947Ju/Ju 31/12/1948Ju/Sa 18/02/1951Ju/Me 31/08/1953Ju/Ke 07/12/1955Ju/Ve 12/11/1956Ju/Su 14/07/1959Ju/Mo 01/05/1960Ju/Ma 31/08/1961Ju/Ra 07/08/1962Sa/Sa 31/12/1964Sa/Me 03/01/1968Sa/Ke 12/09/1970Sa/Ve 22/10/1971Sa/Su 22/12/1974Sa/Mo 04/12/1975Sa/Ma 04/07/1977Sa/Ra 13/08/1978Sa/Ju 19/06/1981Me/Me 31/12/1983Me/Ke

29/05/1986Me/Ve 26/05/1987Me/Su 26/03/1990Me/Mo 30/01/1991Me/Ma 01/07/1992Me/Ra 28/06/1993Me/Ju 15/01/1996Me/Sa 22/04/1998Ke/Ke 30/12/2000Ke/Ve 29/05/2001Ke/Su 29/07/2002Ke/Mo 04/12/2002Ke/Ma 05/07/2003Ke/Ra 01/12/2003Ke/Ju 18/12/2004Ke/Sa 24/11/2005Ke/Me 03/01/2007Ve/Ve 31/12/2007Ve/Su 02/05/2011Ve/Mo 01/05/2012Ve/Ma 31/12/2013Ve/Ra 02/03/2015Ve/Ju 02/03/2018Ve/Sa 31/10/2020Ve/Me 31/12/2023Ve/Ke 31/10/2026Su/Su 31/12/2027Su/Mo 19/04/2028Su/Ma 18/10/2028Su/Ra 23/02/2029Su/Ju 18/01/2030Su/Sa 06/11/2030Su/Me 19/10/2031Su/Ke 25/08/2032Su/Ve 31/12/2032Mo/Mo 31/12/2033Mo/Ma 31/10/2034Mo/Ra 01/06/2035Mo/Ju 30/11/2036Mo/Sa 01/04/2038Mo/Me 31/10/2039Mo/Ke 01/04/2041Mo/Ve 31/10/2041Mo/Su 02/07/2043Ma/Ma 31/12/2043Ma/Ra 28/05/2044Ma/Ju 16/06/2045Ma/Sa 23/05/2046Ma/Me 02/07/2047Ma/Ke

28/06/2048Ma/Ve 24/11/2048Ma/Su 24/01/2050Ma/Mo 01/06/2050Pakistan is undergoing KE-Me-RA dasha period and I believe the ME is theFM is nearing the the 6th house of disputes in coming days. So therecould be problems.Besides that the RAHU always aspects the 6th house.Please let me know if there is anything else. I am a learner and havemissed out some vital points.Thank you.Narendra.SAMVA , "cosmologer" wrote:>> Dear friends,>> I believe the time most Pakistani astrologers view as the> historically important is midnight of that day, giving 23° Aries> rising. A midnight time is used for India, which gained (and> celebrates) its independence on the following day.>> Wkipedia: "Pakistan was formed on 14 August 1947 with two Muslim-> majority wings in the eastern and northwestern regions of the

British> India, separated from the rest of the country with a Hindu majority,> and comprising the provinces of Balochistan, East Bengal, the North-> West Frontier Province, West Punjab and Sindh."> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan>> For comparison, it might be helpful to review the historical> rationale for the Virgo rising chart.>> In any event, it would seem that an analysis of the chart potential> of the charts presented and predictions based on them on the basis of> SA would be required to settle the matter.>> Best wishes,>> Thor>> SAMVA , "Matt" hunt4genestocks@ wrote:> >> > Dear Narendra,> >> > I did a search on the SAMVA area and found in Message> > #12679 that Jorge had posted:> >> > PAKISTAN> > Aug 14, 1947 9:30 AM -05:30

INT> > Karachi, Pakistan Longitude: 67E03 Latitude: 24N52> >> > Giving a Virgo 5:46 ascendant.> >> > BTW, if you are using Jyotish Tools, it will default to R4T (-5:00)> > zone giving a Virgo 12:36 unless you have the ACS atlas add-on which> > contains historic DSTs and war-time changes.> >> > Goravani Jyotish (GJ) gives INT -5:30, as posted by Jorge, which> > yields Virgo 5:46 and GJ has the very accurate ACS Atlas built-in> > database of locations and historical DST and war-times etc..> >> > Would love to hear your thoughts once you've have a chance to review> > the chart.> >> > Regards,> >> > Matt> >> > SAMVA , "naren.dra1" wrote:> > >> > > Hello,> > >> > > These days Nawaz Sharrif and

Benazzir Bhuto are competeing with> each> > > other to become PAKISTAN's PM and to oust Musharraf.> > >> > > PAKISTAN in turmoil again?> > >> > > Where can i get Pakistan's chart?> > >> > > Please advise.> > >> > > Narendra.> > >> >>

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Correction: L9 Jupiter aspects H3 MEP but not the Moon in H3 MEP).

 

The aspect of L9 to H3 blesses the initative with good fortune. With

L4 Moon in H3 MEP, the initiative is focused on H4 indications and

the indications of the Moon as a royal planet. Hence, political

influence of the country is also there. This favourable karma is

supported by L11 Saturn, L7 Venus and L5 Sun also being in H4 MEP

giving further affluence to H4 indications and those of H10, adding

to the importance of the country in the world. L9 Jupiter Also

aspects H7, H11 and H1 adding to the luck of the country.

 

SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

>

> Hello Narendra,

>

> L6 Mercury is about to enter Virgo H6, this would be good for the

indications of the 6th house. Natally, Mercury in Cancer H4 is well

placed. Its dispositor L4 Moon, is also well placed and strong in H3

MEP, where it aspects H9 of luck. It is also under aspect from L9

Jupiter H7 MEP, and thus Pakistan has good fortune regarding e.g.

real estate and natural resources. Given the favourable condition of

Moon, the dispositor of Merucy, the Mercury sub-period would be

expected to be good for its indications, even when it enters H6 in

transit. Moreover, as 4th house includes " real estate " there would be

a tendency for conflict to be associated with such indication. The

conflict over Kashmir is a good example of that karma. With the good

fortune related to Moon as L4 Pakistan would not be expected to be

harmed by such conflict, rather it could be lucky. This luck was

manifest at the birth of the country, when India ceded a huge land

for the muslim population.

>

> By the way, Rahu at 6° Taurus H2 does not cast an aspect to H6 MEP

(18°-28° Virgo). However, its presence in H2 does suggest Pakistan

can experience disturbances in relations with neighbours as well as

within the country.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

>

> " naren.dra1 " <naren.dra wrote: Pakistan's Independence

> Aug 14, 1947 12:00 AM -05:30 LMT

> Karachi, Pakistan Longitude: 67E03 Latitude: 24N51

> Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:07 Current Period: KE/ME/RA

>

> Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

> ================================================

> Asc 23:15 Ari Bharani Ve

> Sun 27:01 Can +00:57:38 WK Aslesha Me

> Moon 18:58 Gem +14:52:57 WK Ardra Ra

> Mars 06:47 Gem +00:39:33 ST Ardra Ra

> Merc 11:53 Can +01:44:57 FM Pushya Sa

> Jupt 25:47 Lib +00:04:58 WK Vishakha Ju

> Ven 21:19 Can +01:14:05 CM Aslesha Me

> Sat 20:20 Can +00:07:41 CM Aslesha Me

> Rahu 05:51 Tau -00:06:00 FM Krittika Su

> Ketu 05:51 Sco -00:06:00 FM Anuradha Sa

>

> True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 813 beats

> Day: Thursday Sunrise: 6:36 AM

> Tithi: Krishna Dvadashi

> Yoga Pt: 19:19 Cp Yogi:Mo AviYogi:Me Dup Yogi: Sa

> Dagha Rashis: Lib Cap

>

> Sytems Approach Analysis

> ========================

> Sun Good Placement, In Old Age: 40%, Weak Dispositor,

> Moon Good Placement, Moon Not Bright 47%,

> Mars Good Placement,

> Mercury Good Placement, Weak Dispositor,

> Jupiter Good Placement, In Old Age: 15%, Weak Dispositor,

> Venus Good Placement, Combust 50%, Weak Dispositor,

> Saturn Good Placement, Combust 60%, Weak Dispositor,

> Rahu Good Placement,

> Ketu Bad Placement,

>

> Rashi Chart

> *******************************************************

> ** 2 * * 12 **

> *3 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * RA 05:51* * * *

> *MA 06:47 * * * * *

> *MO 18:58 * 1 AS 23:15 * 11 *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * ME 11:53 * * * *

> ** SA 20:20 * * **

> *4 VE 21:19 * 10 *

> ** SU 27:01 * * **

> *5 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * 7 JU 25:47 * 9 *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * KE 05:51 * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** 6 * * 8 **

> *******************************************************

>

> Navamsha

> *******************************************************

> ** 8 * * 6 **

> *9 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * AS * * *

> *MA * 7 ME * 5 KE *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** VE * * **

> *10 SA * 4 *

> ** * * **

> *11* * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> *RA * 1 * 3 *

> * * * * * *

> * SU * * * *

> * * MO * * JU * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** 12 * * 2 **

> *******************************************************

>

> Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis

> ========================

> Ra/Mo 13/06/1946

> Ra/Ma 13/12/1947

> Ju/Ju 31/12/1948

> Ju/Sa 18/02/1951

> Ju/Me 31/08/1953

> Ju/Ke 07/12/1955

> Ju/Ve 12/11/1956

> Ju/Su 14/07/1959

> Ju/Mo 01/05/1960

> Ju/Ma 31/08/1961

> Ju/Ra 07/08/1962

> Sa/Sa 31/12/1964

> Sa/Me 03/01/1968

> Sa/Ke 12/09/1970

> Sa/Ve 22/10/1971

> Sa/Su 22/12/1974

> Sa/Mo 04/12/1975

> Sa/Ma 04/07/1977

> Sa/Ra 13/08/1978

> Sa/Ju 19/06/1981

> Me/Me 31/12/1983

> Me/Ke 29/05/1986

> Me/Ve 26/05/1987

> Me/Su 26/03/1990

> Me/Mo 30/01/1991

> Me/Ma 01/07/1992

> Me/Ra 28/06/1993

> Me/Ju 15/01/1996

> Me/Sa 22/04/1998

> Ke/Ke 30/12/2000

> Ke/Ve 29/05/2001

> Ke/Su 29/07/2002

> Ke/Mo 04/12/2002

> Ke/Ma 05/07/2003

> Ke/Ra 01/12/2003

> Ke/Ju 18/12/2004

> Ke/Sa 24/11/2005

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> Su/Ma 18/10/2028

> Su/Ra 23/02/2029

> Su/Ju 18/01/2030

> Su/Sa 06/11/2030

> Su/Me 19/10/2031

> Su/Ke 25/08/2032

> Su/Ve 31/12/2032

> Mo/Mo 31/12/2033

> Mo/Ma 31/10/2034

> Mo/Ra 01/06/2035

> Mo/Ju 30/11/2036

> Mo/Sa 01/04/2038

> Mo/Me 31/10/2039

> Mo/Ke 01/04/2041

> Mo/Ve 31/10/2041

> Mo/Su 02/07/2043

> Ma/Ma 31/12/2043

> Ma/Ra 28/05/2044

> Ma/Ju 16/06/2045

> Ma/Sa 23/05/2046

> Ma/Me 02/07/2047

> Ma/Ke 28/06/2048

> Ma/Ve 24/11/2048

> Ma/Su 24/01/2050

> Ma/Mo 01/06/2050

>

> Pakistan is undergoing KE-Me-RA dasha period and I believe the ME

is the

> FM is nearing the the 6th house of disputes in coming days. So

there

> could be problems.

> Besides that the RAHU always aspects the 6th house.

>

> Please let me know if there is anything else. I am a learner and

have

> missed out some vital points.

>

> Thank you.

>

> Narendra.

>

> SAMVA , " cosmologer " wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > I believe the time most Pakistani astrologers view as the

> > historically important is midnight of that day, giving 23° Aries

> > rising. A midnight time is used for India, which gained (and

> > celebrates) its independence on the following day.

> >

> > Wkipedia: " Pakistan was formed on 14 August 1947 with two Muslim-

> > majority wings in the eastern and northwestern regions of the

British

> > India, separated from the rest of the country with a Hindu

majority,

> > and comprising the provinces of Balochistan, East Bengal, the

North-

> > West Frontier Province, West Punjab and Sindh. "

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan

> >

> > For comparison, it might be helpful to review the historical

> > rationale for the Virgo rising chart.

> >

> > In any event, it would seem that an analysis of the chart

potential

> > of the charts presented and predictions based on them on the

basis of

> > SA would be required to settle the matter.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Thor

> >

> > SAMVA , " Matt " hunt4genestocks@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Narendra,

> > >

> > > I did a search on the SAMVA area and found in

Message

> > > #12679 that Jorge had posted:

> > >

> > > PAKISTAN

> > > Aug 14, 1947 9:30 AM -05:30 INT

> > > Karachi, Pakistan Longitude: 67E03 Latitude: 24N52

> > >

> > > Giving a Virgo 5:46 ascendant.

> > >

> > > BTW, if you are using Jyotish Tools, it will default to R4T (-

5:00)

> > > zone giving a Virgo 12:36 unless you have the ACS atlas add-on

which

> > > contains historic DSTs and war-time changes.

> > >

> > > Goravani Jyotish (GJ) gives INT -5:30, as posted by Jorge, which

> > > yields Virgo 5:46 and GJ has the very accurate ACS Atlas built-

in

> > > database of locations and historical DST and war-times etc..

> > >

> > > Would love to hear your thoughts once you've have a chance to

review

> > > the chart.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Matt

> > >

> > > SAMVA , " naren.dra1 " wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello,

> > > >

> > > > These days Nawaz Sharrif and Benazzir Bhuto are competeing

with

> > each

> > > > other to become PAKISTAN's PM and to oust Musharraf.

> > > >

> > > > PAKISTAN in turmoil again?

> > > >

> > > > Where can i get Pakistan's chart?

> > > >

> > > > Please advise.

> > > >

> > > > Narendra.

> > > >

> > >

>

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The transit FM Mercury is well in the 6th house which I think is going to cause some trouble in Pakistan.Nawaz Sharrif is going to Pak despite Saudi Arabias warning not to go.His supporters are already prisioned in pAKISTAN by Musharraf.SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer wrote:>> Correction: L9 Jupiter aspects H3 MEP but not the Moon in H3 MEP). > > The aspect of L9 to H3 blesses the initative with good fortune. With > L4 Moon in H3 MEP, the initiative is focused on H4 indications and > the indications of the Moon as a royal planet. Hence, political > influence of the country is also there. This favourable karma is > supported by L11 Saturn, L7 Venus and L5 Sun also being in H4 MEP > giving further affluence to H4 indications and those of H10, adding > to the importance of the country in the world. L9 Jupiter Also > aspects H7, H11 and H1 adding to the luck of the country. > > SAMVA , Cosmologer cosmologer@ wrote:> >> > Hello Narendra,> > > > L6 Mercury is about to enter Virgo H6, this would be good for the > indications of the 6th house. Natally, Mercury in Cancer H4 is well > placed. Its dispositor L4 Moon, is also well placed and strong in H3 > MEP, where it aspects H9 of luck. It is also under aspect from L9 > Jupiter H7 MEP, and thus Pakistan has good fortune regarding e.g. > real estate and natural resources. Given the favourable condition of > Moon, the dispositor of Merucy, the Mercury sub-period would be > expected to be good for its indications, even when it enters H6 in > transit. Moreover, as 4th house includes "real estate" there would be > a tendency for conflict to be associated with such indication. The > conflict over Kashmir is a good example of that karma. With the good > fortune related to Moon as L4 Pakistan would not be expected to be > harmed by such conflict, rather it could be lucky. This luck was > manifest at the birth of the country, when India ceded a huge land > for the muslim population.> > > > By the way, Rahu at 6° Taurus H2 does not cast an aspect to H6 MEP > (18°-28° Virgo). However, its presence in H2 does suggest Pakistan > can experience disturbances in relations with neighbours as well as > within the country.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Thor> > > > > > "naren.dra1" naren.dra@ wrote: Pakistan's Independence> > Aug 14, 1947 12:00 AM -05:30 LMT> > Karachi, Pakistan Longitude: 67E03 Latitude: 24N51> > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:07 Current Period: KE/ME/RA> > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord> > ================================================> > Asc 23:15 Ari Bharani Ve> > Sun 27:01 Can +00:57:38 WK Aslesha Me> > Moon 18:58 Gem +14:52:57 WK Ardra Ra> > Mars 06:47 Gem +00:39:33 ST Ardra Ra> > Merc 11:53 Can +01:44:57 FM Pushya Sa> > Jupt 25:47 Lib +00:04:58 WK Vishakha Ju> > Ven 21:19 Can +01:14:05 CM Aslesha Me> > Sat 20:20 Can +00:07:41 CM Aslesha Me> > Rahu 05:51 Tau -00:06:00 FM Krittika Su> > Ketu 05:51 Sco -00:06:00 FM Anuradha Sa> > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 813 beats> > Day: Thursday Sunrise: 6:36 AM> > Tithi: Krishna Dvadashi> > Yoga Pt: 19:19 Cp Yogi:Mo AviYogi:Me Dup Yogi: Sa> > Dagha Rashis: Lib Cap> > > > Sytems Approach Analysis> > ========================> > Sun Good Placement, In Old Age: 40%, Weak Dispositor,> > Moon Good Placement, Moon Not Bright 47%,> > Mars Good Placement,> > Mercury Good Placement, Weak Dispositor,> > Jupiter Good Placement, In Old Age: 15%, Weak Dispositor,> > Venus Good Placement, Combust 50%, Weak Dispositor,> > Saturn Good Placement, Combust 60%, Weak Dispositor,> > Rahu Good Placement,> > Ketu Bad Placement,> > > > Rashi Chart> > *******************************************************> > ** 2 * * 12 **> > *3 * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * RA 05:51* * * *> > *MA 06:47 * * * * *> > *MO 18:58 * 1 AS 23:15 * 11 *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * ME 11:53 * * * *> > ** SA 20:20 * * **> > *4 VE 21:19 * 10 *> > ** SU 27:01 * * **> > *5 * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * 7 JU 25:47 * 9 *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * KE 05:51 * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > ** 6 * * 8 **> > *******************************************************> > > > Navamsha> > *******************************************************> > ** 8 * * 6 **> > *9 * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * AS * * *> > *MA * 7 ME * 5 KE *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > ** VE * * **> > *10 SA * 4 *> > ** * * **> > *11* * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > *RA * 1 * 3 *> > * * * * * *> > * SU * * * *> > * * MO * * JU * *> > * * * * * *> > * * * * * *> > ** 12 * * 2 **> > *******************************************************> > > > Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis> > ========================> > Ra/Mo 13/06/1946> > Ra/Ma 13/12/1947> > Ju/Ju 31/12/1948> > Ju/Sa 18/02/1951> > Ju/Me 31/08/1953> > Ju/Ke 07/12/1955> > Ju/Ve 12/11/1956> > Ju/Su 14/07/1959> > Ju/Mo 01/05/1960> > Ju/Ma 31/08/1961> > Ju/Ra 07/08/1962> > Sa/Sa 31/12/1964> > Sa/Me 03/01/1968> > Sa/Ke 12/09/1970> > Sa/Ve 22/10/1971> > Sa/Su 22/12/1974> > Sa/Mo 04/12/1975> > Sa/Ma 04/07/1977> > Sa/Ra 13/08/1978> > Sa/Ju 19/06/1981> > Me/Me 31/12/1983> > Me/Ke 29/05/1986> > Me/Ve 26/05/1987> > Me/Su 26/03/1990> > Me/Mo 30/01/1991> > Me/Ma 01/07/1992> > Me/Ra 28/06/1993> > Me/Ju 15/01/1996> > Me/Sa 22/04/1998> > Ke/Ke 30/12/2000> > Ke/Ve 29/05/2001> > Ke/Su 29/07/2002> > Ke/Mo 04/12/2002> > Ke/Ma 05/07/2003> > Ke/Ra 01/12/2003> > Ke/Ju 18/12/2004> > Ke/Sa 24/11/2005> > Ke/Me 03/01/2007> > Ve/Ve 31/12/2007> > Ve/Su 02/05/2011> > Ve/Mo 01/05/2012> > Ve/Ma 31/12/2013> > Ve/Ra 02/03/2015> > Ve/Ju 02/03/2018> > Ve/Sa 31/10/2020> > Ve/Me 31/12/2023> > Ve/Ke 31/10/2026> > Su/Su 31/12/2027> > Su/Mo 19/04/2028> > Su/Ma 18/10/2028> > Su/Ra 23/02/2029> > Su/Ju 18/01/2030> > Su/Sa 06/11/2030> > Su/Me 19/10/2031> > Su/Ke 25/08/2032> > Su/Ve 31/12/2032> > Mo/Mo 31/12/2033> > Mo/Ma 31/10/2034> > Mo/Ra 01/06/2035> > Mo/Ju 30/11/2036> > Mo/Sa 01/04/2038> > Mo/Me 31/10/2039> > Mo/Ke 01/04/2041> > Mo/Ve 31/10/2041> > Mo/Su 02/07/2043> > Ma/Ma 31/12/2043> > Ma/Ra 28/05/2044> > Ma/Ju 16/06/2045> > Ma/Sa 23/05/2046> > Ma/Me 02/07/2047> > Ma/Ke 28/06/2048> > Ma/Ve 24/11/2048> > Ma/Su 24/01/2050> > Ma/Mo 01/06/2050> > > > Pakistan is undergoing KE-Me-RA dasha period and I believe the ME > is the> > FM is nearing the the 6th house of disputes in coming days. So > there> > could be problems.> > Besides that the RAHU always aspects the 6th house.> > > > Please let me know if there is anything else. I am a learner and > have> > missed out some vital points.> > > > Thank you.> > > > Narendra.> > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer" wrote:> > >> > > Dear friends,> > >> > > I believe the time most Pakistani astrologers view as the> > > historically important is midnight of that day, giving 23° Aries> > > rising. A midnight time is used for India, which gained (and> > > celebrates) its independence on the following day.> > >> > > Wkipedia: "Pakistan was formed on 14 August 1947 with two Muslim-> > > majority wings in the eastern and northwestern regions of the > British> > > India, separated from the rest of the country with a Hindu > majority,> > > and comprising the provinces of Balochistan, East Bengal, the > North-> > > West Frontier Province, West Punjab and Sindh."> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan> > >> > > For comparison, it might be helpful to review the historical> > > rationale for the Virgo rising chart.> > >> > > In any event, it would seem that an analysis of the chart > potential> > > of the charts presented and predictions based on them on the > basis of> > > SA would be required to settle the matter.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > Thor> > >> > > SAMVA , "Matt" hunt4genestocks@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Narendra,> > > >> > > > I did a search on the SAMVA area and found in > Message> > > > #12679 that Jorge had posted:> > > >> > > > PAKISTAN> > > > Aug 14, 1947 9:30 AM -05:30 INT> > > > Karachi, Pakistan Longitude: 67E03 Latitude: 24N52> > > >> > > > Giving a Virgo 5:46 ascendant.> > > >> > > > BTW, if you are using Jyotish Tools, it will default to R4T (-> 5:00)> > > > zone giving a Virgo 12:36 unless you have the ACS atlas add-on > which> > > > contains historic DSTs and war-time changes.> > > >> > > > Goravani Jyotish (GJ) gives INT -5:30, as posted by Jorge, which> > > > yields Virgo 5:46 and GJ has the very accurate ACS Atlas built-> in> > > > database of locations and historical DST and war-times etc..> > > >> > > > Would love to hear your thoughts once you've have a chance to > review> > > > the chart.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Matt> > > >> > > > SAMVA , "naren.dra1" wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hello,> > > > >> > > > > These days Nawaz Sharrif and Benazzir Bhuto are competeing > with> > > each> > > > > other to become PAKISTAN's PM and to oust Musharraf.> > > > >> > > > > PAKISTAN in turmoil again?> > > > >> > > > > Where can i get Pakistan's chart?> > > > >> > > > > Please advise.> > > > >> > > > > Narendra.> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

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Benazzir Bhutto has been assassinated.

SAMVA , " naren.dra1 " <naren.dra wrote:

>

> The transit FM Mercury is well in the 6th house which I think is going

> to cause some trouble in Pakistan.

>

> Nawaz Sharrif is going to Pak despite Saudi Arabias warning not to go.

>

> His supporters are already prisioned in pAKISTAN by Musharraf.

>

>

> SAMVA , " cosmologer " cosmologer@ wrote:

> >

> > Correction: L9 Jupiter aspects H3 MEP but not the Moon in H3 MEP).

> >

> > The aspect of L9 to H3 blesses the initative with good fortune. With

> > L4 Moon in H3 MEP, the initiative is focused on H4 indications and

> > the indications of the Moon as a royal planet. Hence, political

> > influence of the country is also there. This favourable karma is

> > supported by L11 Saturn, L7 Venus and L5 Sun also being in H4 MEP

> > giving further affluence to H4 indications and those of H10, adding

> > to the importance of the country in the world. L9 Jupiter Also

> > aspects H7, H11 and H1 adding to the luck of the country.

> >

> > SAMVA , Cosmologer cosmologer@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Narendra,

> > >

> > > L6 Mercury is about to enter Virgo H6, this would be good for the

> > indications of the 6th house. Natally, Mercury in Cancer H4 is well

> > placed. Its dispositor L4 Moon, is also well placed and strong in H3

> > MEP, where it aspects H9 of luck. It is also under aspect from L9

> > Jupiter H7 MEP, and thus Pakistan has good fortune regarding e.g.

> > real estate and natural resources. Given the favourable condition of

> > Moon, the dispositor of Merucy, the Mercury sub-period would be

> > expected to be good for its indications, even when it enters H6 in

> > transit. Moreover, as 4th house includes " real estate " there would

be

> > a tendency for conflict to be associated with such indication. The

> > conflict over Kashmir is a good example of that karma. With the good

> > fortune related to Moon as L4 Pakistan would not be expected to be

> > harmed by such conflict, rather it could be lucky. This luck was

> > manifest at the birth of the country, when India ceded a huge land

> > for the muslim population.

> > >

> > > By the way, Rahu at 6° Taurus H2 does not cast an aspect to H6

> MEP

> > (18°-28° Virgo). However, its presence in H2 does suggest

> Pakistan

> > can experience disturbances in relations with neighbours as well as

> > within the country.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Thor

> > >

> > >

> > > " naren.dra1 " naren.dra@ wrote: Pakistan's Independence

> > > Aug 14, 1947 12:00 AM -05:30 LMT

> > > Karachi, Pakistan Longitude: 67E03 Latitude: 24N51

> > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:07 Current Period: KE/ME/RA

> > >

> > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

> > > ================================================

> > > Asc 23:15 Ari Bharani Ve

> > > Sun 27:01 Can +00:57:38 WK Aslesha Me

> > > Moon 18:58 Gem +14:52:57 WK Ardra Ra

> > > Mars 06:47 Gem +00:39:33 ST Ardra Ra

> > > Merc 11:53 Can +01:44:57 FM Pushya Sa

> > > Jupt 25:47 Lib +00:04:58 WK Vishakha Ju

> > > Ven 21:19 Can +01:14:05 CM Aslesha Me

> > > Sat 20:20 Can +00:07:41 CM Aslesha Me

> > > Rahu 05:51 Tau -00:06:00 FM Krittika Su

> > > Ketu 05:51 Sco -00:06:00 FM Anuradha Sa

> > >

> > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 813 beats

> > > Day: Thursday Sunrise: 6:36 AM

> > > Tithi: Krishna Dvadashi

> > > Yoga Pt: 19:19 Cp Yogi:Mo AviYogi:Me Dup Yogi: Sa

> > > Dagha Rashis: Lib Cap

> > >

> > > Sytems Approach Analysis

> > > ========================

> > > Sun Good Placement, In Old Age: 40%, Weak Dispositor,

> > > Moon Good Placement, Moon Not Bright 47%,

> > > Mars Good Placement,

> > > Mercury Good Placement, Weak Dispositor,

> > > Jupiter Good Placement, In Old Age: 15%, Weak Dispositor,

> > > Venus Good Placement, Combust 50%, Weak Dispositor,

> > > Saturn Good Placement, Combust 60%, Weak Dispositor,

> > > Rahu Good Placement,

> > > Ketu Bad Placement,

> > >

> > > Rashi Chart

> > > *******************************************************

> > > ** 2 * * 12 **

> > > *3 * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * RA 05:51* * * *

> > > *MA 06:47 * * * * *

> > > *MO 18:58 * 1 AS 23:15 * 11 *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * ME 11:53 * * * *

> > > ** SA 20:20 * * **

> > > *4 VE 21:19 * 10 *

> > > ** SU 27:01 * * **

> > > *5 * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * 7 JU 25:47 * 9 *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * KE 05:51 * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > ** 6 * * 8 **

> > > *******************************************************

> > >

> > > Navamsha

> > > *******************************************************

> > > ** 8 * * 6 **

> > > *9 * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * AS * * *

> > > *MA * 7 ME * 5 KE *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > ** VE * * **

> > > *10 SA * 4 *

> > > ** * * **

> > > *11* * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > *RA * 1 * 3 *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * SU * * * *

> > > * * MO * * JU * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > * * * * * *

> > > ** 12 * * 2 **

> > > *******************************************************

> > >

> > > Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis

> > > ========================

> > > Ra/Mo 13/06/1946

> > > Ra/Ma 13/12/1947

> > > Ju/Ju 31/12/1948

> > > Ju/Sa 18/02/1951

> > > Ju/Me 31/08/1953

> > > Ju/Ke 07/12/1955

> > > Ju/Ve 12/11/1956

> > > Ju/Su 14/07/1959

> > > Ju/Mo 01/05/1960

> > > Ju/Ma 31/08/1961

> > > Ju/Ra 07/08/1962

> > > Sa/Sa 31/12/1964

> > > Sa/Me 03/01/1968

> > > Sa/Ke 12/09/1970

> > > Sa/Ve 22/10/1971

> > > Sa/Su 22/12/1974

> > > Sa/Mo 04/12/1975

> > > Sa/Ma 04/07/1977

> > > Sa/Ra 13/08/1978

> > > Sa/Ju 19/06/1981

> > > Me/Me 31/12/1983

> > > Me/Ke 29/05/1986

> > > Me/Ve 26/05/1987

> > > Me/Su 26/03/1990

> > > Me/Mo 30/01/1991

> > > Me/Ma 01/07/1992

> > > Me/Ra 28/06/1993

> > > Me/Ju 15/01/1996

> > > Me/Sa 22/04/1998

> > > Ke/Ke 30/12/2000

> > > Ke/Ve 29/05/2001

> > > Ke/Su 29/07/2002

> > > Ke/Mo 04/12/2002

> > > Ke/Ma 05/07/2003

> > > Ke/Ra 01/12/2003

> > > Ke/Ju 18/12/2004

> > > Ke/Sa 24/11/2005

> > > Ke/Me 03/01/2007

> > > Ve/Ve 31/12/2007

> > > Ve/Su 02/05/2011

> > > Ve/Mo 01/05/2012

> > > Ve/Ma 31/12/2013

> > > Ve/Ra 02/03/2015

> > > Ve/Ju 02/03/2018

> > > Ve/Sa 31/10/2020

> > > Ve/Me 31/12/2023

> > > Ve/Ke 31/10/2026

> > > Su/Su 31/12/2027

> > > Su/Mo 19/04/2028

> > > Su/Ma 18/10/2028

> > > Su/Ra 23/02/2029

> > > Su/Ju 18/01/2030

> > > Su/Sa 06/11/2030

> > > Su/Me 19/10/2031

> > > Su/Ke 25/08/2032

> > > Su/Ve 31/12/2032

> > > Mo/Mo 31/12/2033

> > > Mo/Ma 31/10/2034

> > > Mo/Ra 01/06/2035

> > > Mo/Ju 30/11/2036

> > > Mo/Sa 01/04/2038

> > > Mo/Me 31/10/2039

> > > Mo/Ke 01/04/2041

> > > Mo/Ve 31/10/2041

> > > Mo/Su 02/07/2043

> > > Ma/Ma 31/12/2043

> > > Ma/Ra 28/05/2044

> > > Ma/Ju 16/06/2045

> > > Ma/Sa 23/05/2046

> > > Ma/Me 02/07/2047

> > > Ma/Ke 28/06/2048

> > > Ma/Ve 24/11/2048

> > > Ma/Su 24/01/2050

> > > Ma/Mo 01/06/2050

> > >

> > > Pakistan is undergoing KE-Me-RA dasha period and I believe the ME

> > is the

> > > FM is nearing the the 6th house of disputes in coming days. So

> > there

> > > could be problems.

> > > Besides that the RAHU always aspects the 6th house.

> > >

> > > Please let me know if there is anything else. I am a learner and

> > have

> > > missed out some vital points.

> > >

> > > Thank you.

> > >

> > > Narendra.

> > >

> > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear friends,

> > > >

> > > > I believe the time most Pakistani astrologers view as the

> > > > historically important is midnight of that day, giving 23°

> Aries

> > > > rising. A midnight time is used for India, which gained (and

> > > > celebrates) its independence on the following day.

> > > >

> > > > Wkipedia: " Pakistan was formed on 14 August 1947 with two

Muslim-

> > > > majority wings in the eastern and northwestern regions of the

> > British

> > > > India, separated from the rest of the country with a Hindu

> > majority,

> > > > and comprising the provinces of Balochistan, East Bengal, the

> > North-

> > > > West Frontier Province, West Punjab and Sindh. "

> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan

> > > >

> > > > For comparison, it might be helpful to review the historical

> > > > rationale for the Virgo rising chart.

> > > >

> > > > In any event, it would seem that an analysis of the chart

> > potential

> > > > of the charts presented and predictions based on them on the

> > basis of

> > > > SA would be required to settle the matter.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Thor

> > > >

> > > > SAMVA , " Matt " hunt4genestocks@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Narendra,

> > > > >

> > > > > I did a search on the SAMVA area and found in

> > Message

> > > > > #12679 that Jorge had posted:

> > > > >

> > > > > PAKISTAN

> > > > > Aug 14, 1947 9:30 AM -05:30 INT

> > > > > Karachi, Pakistan Longitude: 67E03 Latitude: 24N52

> > > > >

> > > > > Giving a Virgo 5:46 ascendant.

> > > > >

> > > > > BTW, if you are using Jyotish Tools, it will default to R4T (-

> > 5:00)

> > > > > zone giving a Virgo 12:36 unless you have the ACS atlas add-on

> > which

> > > > > contains historic DSTs and war-time changes.

> > > > >

> > > > > Goravani Jyotish (GJ) gives INT -5:30, as posted by Jorge,

which

> > > > > yields Virgo 5:46 and GJ has the very accurate ACS Atlas

built-

> > in

> > > > > database of locations and historical DST and war-times etc..

> > > > >

> > > > > Would love to hear your thoughts once you've have a chance to

> > review

> > > > > the chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Matt

> > > > >

> > > > > SAMVA , " naren.dra1 " wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > These days Nawaz Sharrif and Benazzir Bhuto are competeing

> > with

> > > > each

> > > > > > other to become PAKISTAN's PM and to oust Musharraf.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PAKISTAN in turmoil again?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Where can i get Pakistan's chart?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please advise.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Narendra.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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