Myanmar protesters estimated at 100,000

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Dear SAMVANS,

 

The number of people behind the pro-democracy movement in Mynamar has

grown tremendously from ranks of under 10,000 to estimates of between

50K to 100K led by over 10,000 monks.

http://news./s/ap/20070924/ap_on_re_as/myanmar

 

Subperiod lord transit Jupiter is nearly conjunct its natal 3H

position. This bring the focus of religious factions (Jupiter's

general significations) to democratic initiatives (3H).

 

For the present, demonstrations should not turn violent as transit FM

L12 Sun(militant government) is moving away from transit L8 Mars

(aggression/violence).

 

Pressures will be building again later this month, however, so the

situation bears carefully monitoring.

 

Regards,

 

Matt

 

SAMVA , " Matt " <hunt4genestocks wrote:

>

> Dear SAMVA members,

>

> Protests against the military regime of Myanmar(formerly Burma) have

> continued to escalate with Buddhist monks announcing today their

> withdrawal of " spiritual services from all military personnel in a

> symbolic move that is seen as very powerful in such a deeply religious

> country as Burma " (Source: Wikipedia).

>

> Buddhist monks were allowed to march past police barricades to the

> home of detained Myanmar opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi, the

> National League for Democracy (NLD) leader, on Saturday as street

> protests intensified against the ruling military junta.

>

> http://news./s/ap/20070922/ap_on_re_as/myanmar

>

> THE RELIGIOUS INFLUENCE:

>

> In transit Jupiter, representing the spiritual community is upon the

> Most Effective Point (MEP) of the the 3rd house. As 4th lord, Jupiter

> represents peace, general and political stability and communal

> harmony. The 3rd house signifies communications; particularly those

> governing initiatives for democracy and peace talks.

>

> Transit Jupiter aspects the 7H MEP which represents cabinet and

> internal affairs as well as the bond of relationships amongst the

> masses. This why the people of Myanmar are rallying behind the

> Buddhist monks in such large numbers.

>

> Jupiter aspects the 9th house governing morality, religion,

> progress and development; all factors which the populace seeks to

improve.

>

> This all comes during the FB L4 Jupiter subperiod. Natally, the FM

> L12 Sun is exactly afflicting the lagna lord Mercury in Jupiter's 4th

> house. Accordingly, during this subperiod of Jupiter, this affliction

> is " active " .

>

> The Sun is the dispositor for the MMP L8 Mars who is violent by nature

> thus bringing a more even more militant component to the 12th house

> significations.

>

> Thus, the connection of the FM L12 Sun with the L1 Mercury in the 4H

> indicates the loss of communal harmony, political instability and an

> impoverished populace.

>

>

> TENSIONS BUILDING:

>

> The protests and demonstrations are due to transit FM L6 Saturn being

> badly placed in the 12H conjunct Ketu and afflicted by the nodal axis.

>

> The 6H represents public amity, or lack thereof in this case, while

> the 12H signifies mishaps and " wars " . Ketu leads to violent

> actions and events and combined with the L6 Saturn signifying violence

> and aggression.

>

> In one months time, this affliction between Ketu and Saturn

> becomes exact and remains so until the end of October.

>

> The L8 MMP Mars will be applying towards the MEP of the 10H through

> the end of October indicating military-type action by the

> government (10th house) against the country (aspect to 1st house)

> disrupting communal harmony and peace (4th house) and the population

> at large (5th house).

>

> In early November, while the Saturn/Ketu aspect is separating though

> still within two degrees, the FM L12 Sun will be debilitated and upon

> the MEP of the 2H thereby afflicting it and the 8th house. At the

> same time, transit Mars' affliction to the 10th will have become exact

> upon the MEPs of the 10th, 1st, 4th and 5th houses.

>

> CONCLUSIONS:

>

> It appears that the initiatives for better government will lead to

> increasing tensions and possibly to demonstrations that turn violent

> due to aggressive military reaction sometime between mid-October and

> early November after which time the tension will cool.

>

>

> REQUESTED FEEDBACK:

> I wonder how serious the demonstrations and military action could

become?

>

> Is this an accurate SA assessment of conditions in Myanmar?

>

> Regards,

>

> Matt

>

>

> Chart info (thank you Jorge Angelino):

> Mynamar

> DOB: January 4, 1948

> TOB 00:00 Zone -06:30 NST

> Rangoon, Burma 96E10, 16N47

> Virgo 17:23

>

> Some interesting general obervations:

>

> The THREE malefics for Myanmar:

>

> Sun = signifies government which has been para-military and an

> oppressive force that has impoverished the nation connecting is

> malificence of the 12H with the L1 in the 4H and showing the loss of

> wealth, peace and resources. After a parliamentary government was

> formed in 1948, Prime Minister U Nu attempted to make Burma a welfare

> state.

>

> Saturn = Civil servants, low tech, industry and mines. The

> International Labor Organization is seeking charges against Myanmar

> over the continuous forced labour of its citizens by the military at

> the International Court of Justice. Note that Saturn is in the 11H of

> gains. Therefore, the government has abused public labor for their

> own benefit.

>

> Mars = Army and police and the nation has been highly oppressed by a

> para-military regines for decades.

>

> Lucrative industries of gems (8H), oil (8H/Saturn) and forestry(4H)

> remain heavily regulated. They have recently been exploited by foreign

> corporations and governments which have partnered with the local

> government (FM L12 Sun) to gain access to Myanmar's natural resources.

>

> It is also interesting to note that the country is the worlds 2nd

> largest producer of opium (12H vices/drugs), accounting for 8% of GDP,

> and is a major supplier of illegal drugs. Amphetamines (speed) is a

> major export and note how Mars, the planet of energy, is upon the MEP

> of the 12H linking its significations with the 12H vices.

>

> In looking at Venus exclusively, one would be led to think that as the

> L2 signifying national wealth and world position and placed in the 5H

> in full strength then why is the nation NOT wealthy? After all, its

> the strongest planet in the chart; Mercury is combusted and exactly

> afflicted by the FM L12 Sun and is positioned in a MEP-afflicted

> house, Jupiter is debilitated in Navamsha, Saturn is in old age, Mars

> is badly placed in the 12H and has a weak dispositor and the Moon has

> a weak dispositor.

>

> The reason Myanmar is NOT wealthy is that the entire chart is

> destroyed by the lagna lord Mercury being BOTH weak AND afflicted so

> closely by the FM L12 Sun while being combusted and in a MEP-afflicted

> house. Thus everything else is brought to a much lower level

> including even the benefits of its otherwise well-placed and strong FB

> L2 Venus.

>

> Starting in about one year, September 2008, Myanmar will begin its

> Mercury dasa. Though strict SA techniques indicate the predominance

> of the subperiods, we can infer that this dasa even of a functional

> benefic will bring focus to the aforementioned severe affliction of

> the Sun. Thus, a greater level of communal disharmony, worst

> political upheavals and a deterioration of economic conditions will

> prevail. This may result in the drug trade becoming an even greater

> component of export as a means to compensate for legitimate commerce.

> The possible of even more strict police-state type controls exists.

>

> Sources:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Labor_Organization

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Matt, Thank you very much for Myanmar analysis. I have predicted the democray uprising would take place in Myanmar in last 6 months ago. However, I also have same questions like you do: - Is there any any chance to turn peaceful demostration into violence? - Will the military regime give in the people wish? Dear professor and other senior members, please look into this and thank for your kindly wisdom. Khin.Matt <hunt4genestocks wrote: Dear SAMVANS,The number of people behind the pro-democracy movement in Mynamar hasgrown tremendously from ranks of under 10,000 to estimates of between50K to 100K led by over 10,000 monks.http://news./s/ap/20070924/ap_on_re_as/myanmarSubperiod lord transit Jupiter is nearly conjunct its natal 3Hposition. This bring the focus of religious factions (Jupiter'sgeneral significations) to democratic initiatives (3H).For the present, demonstrations should not turn violent as transit FML12 Sun(militant government) is moving away from transit L8 Mars(aggression/violence).Pressures will be building again later this month, however, so thesituation bears carefully monitoring.Regards,MattSAMVA ,

"Matt" <hunt4genestocks wrote:>> Dear SAMVA members,> > Protests against the military regime of Myanmar(formerly Burma) have> continued to escalate with Buddhist monks announcing today their> withdrawal of "spiritual services from all military personnel in a> symbolic move that is seen as very powerful in such a deeply religious> country as Burma" (Source: Wikipedia). > > Buddhist monks were allowed to march past police barricades to the> home of detained Myanmar opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi, the> National League for Democracy (NLD) leader, on Saturday as street> protests intensified against the ruling military junta.> > http://news./s/ap/20070922/ap_on_re_as/myanmar> > THE RELIGIOUS INFLUENCE:> > In transit Jupiter,

representing the spiritual community is upon the> Most Effective Point (MEP) of the the 3rd house. As 4th lord, Jupiter> represents peace, general and political stability and communal> harmony. The 3rd house signifies communications; particularly those> governing initiatives for democracy and peace talks. > > Transit Jupiter aspects the 7H MEP which represents cabinet and> internal affairs as well as the bond of relationships amongst the> masses. This why the people of Myanmar are rallying behind the> Buddhist monks in such large numbers.> > Jupiter aspects the 9th house governing morality, religion,> progress and development; all factors which the populace seeks toimprove.> > This all comes during the FB L4 Jupiter subperiod. Natally, the FM> L12 Sun is exactly afflicting the lagna lord Mercury in Jupiter's 4th> house. Accordingly, during this subperiod of

Jupiter, this affliction> is "active". > > The Sun is the dispositor for the MMP L8 Mars who is violent by nature> thus bringing a more even more militant component to the 12th house> significations. > > Thus, the connection of the FM L12 Sun with the L1 Mercury in the 4H> indicates the loss of communal harmony, political instability and an> impoverished populace. > > > TENSIONS BUILDING:> > The protests and demonstrations are due to transit FM L6 Saturn being> badly placed in the 12H conjunct Ketu and afflicted by the nodal axis. > > The 6H represents public amity, or lack thereof in this case, while> the 12H signifies mishaps and "wars". Ketu leads to violent> actions and events and combined with the L6 Saturn signifying violence> and aggression.> > In one months time, this affliction between Ketu and Saturn>

becomes exact and remains so until the end of October. > > The L8 MMP Mars will be applying towards the MEP of the 10H through> the end of October indicating military-type action by the> government (10th house) against the country (aspect to 1st house)> disrupting communal harmony and peace (4th house) and the population> at large (5th house). > > In early November, while the Saturn/Ketu aspect is separating though> still within two degrees, the FM L12 Sun will be debilitated and upon> the MEP of the 2H thereby afflicting it and the 8th house. At the> same time, transit Mars' affliction to the 10th will have become exact> upon the MEPs of the 10th, 1st, 4th and 5th houses.> > CONCLUSIONS:> > It appears that the initiatives for better government will lead to> increasing tensions and possibly to demonstrations that turn violent> due to aggressive

military reaction sometime between mid-October and> early November after which time the tension will cool. > > > REQUESTED FEEDBACK:> I wonder how serious the demonstrations and military action couldbecome?> > Is this an accurate SA assessment of conditions in Myanmar?> > Regards,> > Matt> > > Chart info (thank you Jorge Angelino):> Mynamar> DOB: January 4, 1948> TOB 00:00 Zone -06:30 NST> Rangoon, Burma 96E10, 16N47> Virgo 17:23> > Some interesting general obervations: > > The THREE malefics for Myanmar:> > Sun = signifies government which has been para-military and an> oppressive force that has impoverished the nation connecting is> malificence of the 12H with the L1 in the 4H and showing the loss of> wealth, peace and resources. After a parliamentary government was>

formed in 1948, Prime Minister U Nu attempted to make Burma a welfare> state.> > Saturn = Civil servants, low tech, industry and mines. The> International Labor Organization is seeking charges against Myanmar> over the continuous forced labour of its citizens by the military at> the International Court of Justice. Note that Saturn is in the 11H of> gains. Therefore, the government has abused public labor for their> own benefit.> > Mars = Army and police and the nation has been highly oppressed by a> para-military regines for decades.> > Lucrative industries of gems (8H), oil (8H/Saturn) and forestry(4H)> remain heavily regulated. They have recently been exploited by foreign> corporations and governments which have partnered with the local> government (FM L12 Sun) to gain access to Myanmar's natural resources.> > It is also interesting to note that

the country is the worlds 2nd> largest producer of opium (12H vices/drugs), accounting for 8% of GDP,> and is a major supplier of illegal drugs. Amphetamines (speed) is a> major export and note how Mars, the planet of energy, is upon the MEP> of the 12H linking its significations with the 12H vices.> > In looking at Venus exclusively, one would be led to think that as the> L2 signifying national wealth and world position and placed in the 5H> in full strength then why is the nation NOT wealthy? After all, its> the strongest planet in the chart; Mercury is combusted and exactly> afflicted by the FM L12 Sun and is positioned in a MEP-afflicted> house, Jupiter is debilitated in Navamsha, Saturn is in old age, Mars> is badly placed in the 12H and has a weak dispositor and the Moon has> a weak dispositor. > > The reason Myanmar is NOT wealthy is that the entire chart

is> destroyed by the lagna lord Mercury being BOTH weak AND afflicted so> closely by the FM L12 Sun while being combusted and in a MEP-afflicted> house. Thus everything else is brought to a much lower level> including even the benefits of its otherwise well-placed and strong FB> L2 Venus.> > Starting in about one year, September 2008, Myanmar will begin its> Mercury dasa. Though strict SA techniques indicate the predominance> of the subperiods, we can infer that this dasa even of a functional> benefic will bring focus to the aforementioned severe affliction of> the Sun. Thus, a greater level of communal disharmony, worst> political upheavals and a deterioration of economic conditions will> prevail. This may result in the drug trade becoming an even greater> component of export as a means to compensate for legitimate commerce.> The possible of even more strict

police-state type controls exists.> > Sources: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Labor_Organization>

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