Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Dear Ajay and list members, You raise the question of what may happen in October, Ajay, specifically on 15 October. First, by the term Great Depression, I expect you mean a correction in the stock market. Normally the term " Great Depression " refers to a collapse in the stock market followed by an economic crisis involving millions caught without jobs and income. I doubt such a scenario is in the offing anytime soon, and certainly, I have not predicted it based on the SAMVA USA chart. That said, the question warrants an answer, if the transits in the coming month are strong enough to produce a big correction in the financial markets?. More specifically, is a big drop ahead for the US stock market or the dollar? You are right, Ajay, the transits in the second and third week of October 2007 look tough all over. At that time, the following aspects take place - transit Saturn, Ketu and Venus combine around 10°-12° Leo, - transit Mars in Gemini is aspected by transit Rahu in Aquarius - transit Mercury in Libra is aspected by transit Rahu in Aquarius and then transit Saturn in Leo - transit Sun becomes weak in old age in Virgo and infancy and debilitation in Libra. The transit conjunction of Saturn and Ketu has been associated with some tense events, including the Cuban Missile crisis of 1962, which configured strongly in the USA chart. The timing of the event follows the peak of the conjunction and its aspect to natal L3 Mercury in H7 - an international crisis involving transportation to and installation of dangerous nuclear missiles in Communist Cuba, near the USA. As far as the USA is concerned at this time, there are only two transit-to-natal aspects in the 21° Cancer rising SAMVA USA chart in October 2007 and mostly difficult transit-to-transit aspects. Ve/Ju period is running. Jupiter is sixth lord in the chart and has to do with Americans fixed sense of righteousness, often leading them to conflict, even war. Sub-period lord L6 Jupiter is now in Scorpio and in October will be in transit-to-natal conjunction of H5 MEP, where it also aspects H1 (owned by Moon, which it natally afflicts), H9 and H11. The aspect becomes exact around 6 October and the influence is felt until early November. This aspect suggests conflict or malfunction involving the indications of the house involved. Jupiter will then pass through, at normal speed, a conjunction with natal L8 Saturn at 27° Scorpio, from mid October until late November, but which peaks around 7 November. This transit to natal aspect suggests scope for violence or military action. Moreover, the following transit-to-transit aspect occur: - transit L8 Saturn, FM Ketu and L4 Venus combine around 10°-12° Leo H2. This aspects suggests suddent problems for fixed assets and communal harmony. However, no natal indication in the USA is threatened, beyond the fact that Venus is a weak planet in the chart. - transit L10 Mars in Gemini H12 is aspected by transit Rahu in Aquarius H8. This suggests problems for US abroad. - transit L3 Mercury in Libra H4 is aspected by transit Rahu in Aquarius and then transit L8 Saturn in Leo H2. This is bad for investor sentiment. - transit L2 Sun becomes weak in old age in Virgo H3 and infancy and debilitation in Libra H4. This undermines investor sentiment. The above aspects suggests the USA will pass through the two difficult weeks of October, with some problems but overall OK. Presently, there are problems being felt by 1. Saturn at 8° 35' Leo and Ketu at 12° 50' Leo, being within the close 5° conjunction aspect of each other. 2. L8 Saturn still aspecting L1 Moon at 7° 26' Taurus H11 3. L6 Jupiter at 19° Scorpio aspecting H5, H9, H11 and H1 (owned by Moon) 4. In coming days, transit L3 Mercury in H4 will be under aspect of transit L8 Saturn in H2. 5. Transit L10 Mars has entered H12 Aspects 2 and 3 are bad for the US currency, the dollar, and the stock market. Aspect 4 and 5 are also bad for investor sentiments. As a result of the present aspects and the more difficult aspects in October, the financial markets may continue nervous for the coming month. Likely, the Saturn-Ketu conjunction will flare up as an international crisis, whereby the US is involved, but not itself the focus of the crisis. The crisis would unsettle investors. So, to answer the question, as I can read the transits in the SAMVA USA chart, it seems stock markets could be disturbed and that the dollar may be under some pressure. However, there is no indication of an outright collapse of the currency with a massive flight into the euro, as some commentators have suggested. Rather, should military confrontation emerge abroad or seem very likely, a flight into dollars may take place as has often been the case at difficult geo- political times. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " ajay sehgal " <ajaysehg wrote: > > Dear lists, > > If we turn back 20 years in history we get 2 dates of heavy stock > market crashes. > > 1) october 19, 1987, dow jones fell 22.68%, it was black monday, > me/sat was in operation as per samva US chart. on this day tr saturn > mmp was exactly afflicting natal sun h2 lord. tr sat was @ 23.41, > while natal sun @ 23.45. > > 2) october 27, 1997, it was black monday dow jones crashed, & > trading had to be halted in Newyork stock exchange. venus/venus was > in operation, tr rahu was afflicting badly placed natal venus lord4 > in h6,and mmp sat was @ mep afflicting various houses. > > 3)Now as per earlier detailed analysis by dear thor, & matt of US, > UK, IRAN, Iceland ,all point to a strong " GREAT DEPRESSION " in > stock markets, Indian chart also confirms the same. > > 4)On 15 october 2007 tr afflictions shall be around peak, so shall > it again be black monday, but planetary combinations do point > towards this day!!!. > > Thanks ajay > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Dear Arild, I greatly enjoyed your post concerning the demographic trends and the possibility of a severe market correction. Your website has some excellent research. Please contact me offline with respect to your special report using RSI and Bressert's Cycle10 indicators if you would please (I use TradeStation). This strong market rally of the past six weeks now creates the possibility of a re-test of the August lows in the worlds' equity markets. Your identification of the mid-October time-frame seems to pinpoint the height of pressures. Nice work, Matt SAMVA , Arild Myklebust <arimykle wrote: > > Dear Thor and list members, > > Regarding the outlook of financial markets and the economy as well, > for an amazing method i came across and possible SA astrological > correlation factors we in this forum can observe with it, read my earlier > August issue of Trader's Tips Newsletter, on why the number > of the 45 to 54 age groupings could have an important role > in a serious financial & economical related crisis/depression, likely > coming in the beginning of the next decade. It's not just the interest in > astrological research and observation behind this message, it's also my > moral duty to share with you this new, important information about what > we are likely facing, because of the magnitude of it and this alert > hopefully could be of contribution, for your own future decisions. > > This information is found below the first chart on the web page below. > > http://www.oextradingresources.com/traderstips-aug07.html > > Best wishes, > > Arild > > > > >Dear Ajay and list members, > > > >You raise the question of what may happen in October, Ajay, > >specifically on 15 October. First, by the term Great Depression, I > >expect you mean a correction in the stock market. Normally the > >term " Great Depression " refers to a collapse in the stock market > >followed by an economic crisis involving millions caught without jobs > >and income. I doubt such a scenario is in the offing anytime soon, > >and certainly, I have not predicted it based on the SAMVA USA chart. > > > >That said, the question warrants an answer, if the transits in the > >coming month are strong enough to produce a big correction in the > >financial markets?. More specifically, is a big drop ahead for the US > >stock market or the dollar? > > > >You are right, Ajay, the transits in the second and third week of > >October 2007 look tough all over. > > > >At that time, the following aspects take place > >- transit Saturn, Ketu and Venus combine around 10°-12° Leo, > >- transit Mars in Gemini is aspected by transit Rahu in Aquarius > >- transit Mercury in Libra is aspected by transit Rahu in Aquarius > >and then transit Saturn in Leo > >- transit Sun becomes weak in old age in Virgo and infancy and > >debilitation in Libra. > > > >The transit conjunction of Saturn and Ketu has been associated with > >some tense events, including the Cuban Missile crisis of 1962, which > >configured strongly in the USA chart. The timing of the event follows > >the peak of the conjunction and its aspect to natal L3 Mercury in H7 - > >an international crisis involving transportation to and installation > >of dangerous nuclear missiles in Communist Cuba, near the USA. > > > >As far as the USA is concerned at this time, there are only two > >transit-to-natal aspects in the 21° Cancer rising SAMVA USA chart in > >October 2007 and mostly difficult transit-to-transit aspects. > > > >Ve/Ju period is running. Jupiter is sixth lord in the chart and has > >to do with Americans fixed sense of righteousness, often leading them > >to conflict, even war. Sub-period lord L6 Jupiter is now in Scorpio > >and in October will be in transit-to-natal conjunction of H5 MEP, > >where it also aspects H1 (owned by Moon, which it natally afflicts), > >H9 and H11. The aspect becomes exact around 6 October > >and the influence is felt until early November. This aspect suggests > >conflict or malfunction involving the indications of the house > >involved. Jupiter will then pass through, at normal speed, a > >conjunction with natal L8 Saturn at 27° Scorpio, from mid October > >until late November, but which peaks around 7 November. This transit > >to natal aspect suggests scope for violence or military action. > > > >Moreover, the following transit-to-transit aspect occur: > >- transit L8 Saturn, FM Ketu and L4 Venus combine around 10°-12° Leo > >H2. This aspects suggests suddent problems for fixed assets and > >communal harmony. However, no natal indication in the USA is > >threatened, beyond the fact that Venus is a weak planet in the chart. > >- transit L10 Mars in Gemini H12 is aspected by transit Rahu in > >Aquarius H8. This suggests problems for US abroad. > >- transit L3 Mercury in Libra H4 is aspected by transit Rahu in > >Aquarius and then transit L8 Saturn in Leo H2. This is bad for > >investor sentiment. > >- transit L2 Sun becomes weak in old age in Virgo H3 and infancy and > >debilitation in Libra H4. This undermines investor sentiment. > > > >The above aspects suggests the USA will pass through the two > >difficult weeks of October, with some problems but overall OK. > > > >Presently, there are problems being felt by > > > >1. Saturn at 8° 35' Leo and Ketu at 12° 50' Leo, being within the > >close 5° conjunction aspect of each other. > >2. L8 Saturn still aspecting L1 Moon at 7° 26' Taurus H11 > >3. L6 Jupiter at 19° Scorpio aspecting H5, H9, H11 and H1 (owned by > >Moon) > >4. In coming days, transit L3 Mercury in H4 will be under aspect of > >transit L8 Saturn in H2. > >5. Transit L10 Mars has entered H12 > > > >Aspects 2 and 3 are bad for the US currency, the dollar, and the > >stock market. Aspect 4 and 5 are also bad for investor sentiments. As > >a result of the present aspects and the more difficult aspects in > >October, the financial markets may continue nervous for the coming > >month. Likely, the Saturn-Ketu conjunction will flare up as an > >international crisis, whereby the US is involved, but not itself the > >focus of the crisis. The crisis would unsettle investors. > > > >So, to answer the question, as I can read the transits in the SAMVA > >USA chart, it seems stock markets could be disturbed and that the > >dollar may be under some pressure. However, there is no indication of > >an outright collapse of the currency with a massive flight into the > >euro, as some commentators have suggested. Rather, should military > >confrontation emerge abroad or seem very likely, a flight into > >dollars may take place as has often been the case at difficult geo- > >political times. > > > >Best wishes, > > > >Thor > > > >--- In > ><SAMVA%40>SAMVA , > > " ajay sehgal " <ajaysehg@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear lists, > > > > > > If we turn back 20 years in history we get 2 dates of heavy stock > > > market crashes. > > > > > > 1) october 19, 1987, dow jones fell 22.68%, it was black monday, > > > me/sat was in operation as per samva US chart. on this day tr > >saturn > > > mmp was exactly afflicting natal sun h2 lord. tr sat was @ 23.41, > > > while natal sun @ 23.45. > > > > > > 2) october 27, 1997, it was black monday dow jones crashed, & > > > trading had to be halted in Newyork stock exchange. venus/venus was > > > in operation, tr rahu was afflicting badly placed natal venus lord4 > > > in h6,and mmp sat was @ mep afflicting various houses. > > > > > > 3)Now as per earlier detailed analysis by dear thor, & matt of US, > > > UK, IRAN, Iceland ,all point to a strong " GREAT DEPRESSION " in > > > stock markets, Indian chart also confirms the same. > > > > > > 4)On 15 october 2007 tr afflictions shall be around peak, so shall > > > it again be black monday, but planetary combinations do point > > > towards this day!!!. > > > > > > Thanks ajay > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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