Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Dear , Thank you for highlighting the astrological influence in the SAMVA USA chart behind the ongoing turbulence in US financial markets. I presume the applying conjunction of transit L2 Sun, in debilitation, to natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra H4 is also contributing to the downturn. The Sun will begin to seperate from the nodal axis on Monday when the conjunction of transit L6 Jupiter becomes exact with natal L8 Saturn. I expect the disturbance will begin to recede after that, also in view of the fact that the orb of the conjunction of transit L8 Saturn and transit Ketu in Leo H2 will by then exceed 2° and the nodes are no longer stationary. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , <siha wrote: > > > Hello dear list members, > > Just see the impact of the transit sixth lord forming exact conjunction with natal eighth lord in the SAMVA US chart. All indices of US stock markets are significantly in the red. It is likely to shake the global markets. NYSE composit is down by 210 points while the D J Industrials is down by 279 points. > > Best wishes. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Dear friends, The market closed down much lower today. NASDAQ 2793.54 -65.58 -2.29% DJIA 13554.78 -375.23 -2.69% S & P 1507.41 -41.97 -2.71% What may have spooked the market is the extent to which the US central bank is having to intervene in the market to prevent an outright meltdown. ____________________ Fed Pumps $41B Into US Financial SystemThursday November 1, 2:36 pm ET By Jeannine Aversa, AP Economics Writer Fed Injects $41 Billion Into US Financial System to Help Ease Credit Problems WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Federal Reserve pumped $41 billion into the U.S. financial system Thursday, the largest cash infusion since September 2001, to help companies get through a credit crunch. The action comes one day after Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and all but one of his central bank colleagues voted to slice a key interest rate for the second time in six weeks to protect the economy from the ill effects of collapse in the housing market, aggravated by the credit troubles. ____________________ The developments have so far been exactly in line with the prediction by on 25 September: "The sub prime housing loans problem in US markets is causing concerns for a prolonged economic slow down which is likely to result in global setbacks for markets. Astrologically, the situation seems to be of some concerns in October, 2007, and is likely to start looking up after middle of November, 2007." Best wishes, Thor siha wrote: Hello dear list members, Just see the impact of the transit sixth lord forming exact conjunction with natal eighth lord in the SAMVA US chart. All indices of US stock markets are significantly in the red. It is likely to shake the global markets. NYSE composit is down by 210 points while the D J Industrials is down by 279 points. Best wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Dear Thor and List, I read that crude oil prices climbed to over $96 per barrel which also caused concern. The tr. Jupiter (L6 ,expansion) on n. Saturn (oil) has been discussed by the Professor, you, Vyas, David Hawthorne, and others recently... Warm regards,Shayn Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:11:01 PMRe: TRANSIT INFLUENCES IN SAMVA US CHART Dear friends, The market closed down much lower today. NASDAQ 2793.54 -65.58 -2.29% DJIA 13554.78 -375.23 -2.69% S & P 1507.41 -41.97 -2.71% What may have spooked the market is the extent to which the US central bank is having to intervene in the market to prevent an outright meltdown. ____________ ________ Fed Pumps $41B Into US Financial SystemThursday November 1, 2:36 pm ET By Jeannine Aversa, AP Economics Writer Fed Injects $41 Billion Into US Financial System to Help Ease Credit Problems WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Federal Reserve pumped $41 billion into the U.S. financial system Thursday, the largest cash infusion since September 2001, to help companies get through a credit crunch. The action comes one day after Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and all but one of his central bank colleagues voted to slice a key interest rate for the second time in six weeks to protect the economy from the ill effects of collapse in the housing market, aggravated by the credit troubles. ____________ ________ The developments have so far been exactly in line with the prediction by on 25 September: "The sub prime housing loans problem in US markets is causing concerns for a prolonged economic slow down which is likely to result in global setbacks for markets. Astrologically, the situation seems to be of some concerns in October, 2007, and is likely to start looking up after middle of November, 2007." Best wishes, Thor siha@yournetastrolo ger.com wrote: Hello dear list members, Just see the impact of the transit sixth lord forming exact conjunction with natal eighth lord in the SAMVA US chart. All indices of US stock markets are significantly in the red. It is likely to shake the global markets. NYSE composit is down by 210 points while the D J Industrials is down by 279 points. Best wishes. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Dear Shayn, Thanks for mentioning this influence. You are quite right. The aspect of transit Jupiter on natal Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5 of the Cancer rising SAMVA USA chart helps to explain the continuing rise in the oil price (denominated in dollars), in addition to the now seperating influence of the transit conjunction of Ketun and Saturn in Leo H2. The influence of transit L6 Jupiter on natal L8 Saturn, as Professor Choudhry mentioned, also explains the sharp decline in the US stock market yesterday. Indeed, the markets in Asia dropped sharply overnight and Europe is also in the red this morning, as he also predicted. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: > > Dear Thor and List, > I read that crude oil prices climbed to over $96 per barrel which also caused concern. The tr. Jupiter (L6 ,expansion) on n. Saturn (oil) has been discussed by the Professor, you, Vyas, David Hawthorne, and others recently... > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer > SAMVA > Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:11:01 PM > Re: TRANSIT INFLUENCES IN SAMVA US CHART > > Dear friends, > > The market closed down much lower today. > > NASDAQ 2793.54 -65.58 -2.29% > DJIA 13554.78 -375.23 -2.69% > S & P 1507.41 -41.97 -2.71% > > What may have spooked the market is the extent to which the US central bank is having to intervene in the market to prevent an outright meltdown. > ____________ ________ > Fed Pumps $41B Into US Financial System > Thursday November 1, 2:36 pm ET > By Jeannine Aversa, AP Economics Writer > > > Fed Injects $41 Billion Into US Financial System to Help Ease Credit Problems > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Federal Reserve pumped $41 billion into the U.S. financial system Thursday, the largest cash infusion since September 2001, to help companies get through a credit crunch. > The action comes one day after Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and all but one of his central bank colleagues voted to slice a key interest rate for the second time in six weeks to protect the economy from the ill effects of collapse in the housing market, aggravated by the credit troubles. > ____________ ________ > > The developments have so far been exactly in line with the prediction by on 25 September: > > " The sub prime housing loans problem in US markets is causing concerns for a prolonged economic slow down which is likely to result in global setbacks for markets. Astrologically, the situation seems to be of some concerns in October, 2007, and is likely to start looking up after middle of November, 2007. " > > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > > siha@yournetastrolo ger.com wrote: > > Hello dear list members, > > Just see the impact of the transit sixth lord forming exact conjunction with natal eighth lord in the SAMVA US chart. All indices of US stock markets are significantly in the red. It is likely to shake the global markets. NYSE composit is down by 210 points while the D J Industrials is down by 279 points. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > http://mail. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Dear list members, Today. there are promising signs the conditions of financial markets have bottomed out and will soon begin to improve. - The dollar is at an all time low viz-a-viz the euro and is very low relative to the pound. - The stock market in Europe seems to be stabilising and even rising this morning - The stock markets in Asia recovered last night. This is consistent with my reading of the transits last week. Moreover, the Prediction by on 26 September 2007 has played out exactly, especially his emphasis on the losses associated with the sub-prime loans. When he made the following prediction, this problem appeared to be on the way to recover, then in mid October the crises erupted again and has remained intense for the past few weeks, with as a result the stock markets, commodity prices (oil and gold) and currency values fluctuating much more than most market participants were expecting. This shows the value of SA in reading the planetary influences on collective psychology, including in the financial markets: -------------------- Message #14095 of 14231 < Prev | Next > Hello list members, The sub prime housing loans problem in US markets is causing concerns for a prolonged economic slow down which is likely to result in global setbacks for markets. Astrologically, the situation seems to be of some concerns in October, 2007, and is likely to start looking up after middle of November, 2007. Best wishes. -------------------- Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear , > > Thank you for highlighting the astrological influence in the SAMVA > USA chart behind the ongoing turbulence in US financial markets. > > I presume the applying conjunction of transit L2 Sun, in > debilitation, to natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra H4 is also contributing > to the downturn. The Sun will begin to seperate from the nodal axis > on Monday when the conjunction of transit L6 Jupiter becomes exact > with natal L8 Saturn. I expect the disturbance will begin to recede > after that, also in view of the fact that the orb of the conjunction > of transit L8 Saturn and transit Ketu in Leo H2 will by then exceed > 2° and the nodes are no longer stationary. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello dear list members, > > > > Just see the impact of the transit sixth lord forming exact > conjunction with natal eighth lord in the SAMVA US chart. All > indices of US stock markets are significantly in the red. It is > likely to shake the global markets. NYSE composit is down by 210 > points while the D J Industrials is down by 279 points. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Dear friends, The still close conjunction of transit L6 Jupiter at 27° 00' Scorpio H5 to natal L8 Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5 in the SAMVA USA chart is likely the explanation for the ongoing disturbance in the US financial market today. The Venus-Jupiter period is operating in the chart, so the transit of Jupiter has special importance. I expected some improvement regarding the seperation of L2 Sun from the nodal axis. However, the condition of L2 Sun in transit through Libra, its sign of debilitation, is still weak even if it is seperating from the natal nodes. Moreover, its dispositor, L4 Venus, is also quite weak, as it is now transiting Virgo H3, the sign of its debilitation. Both Sun and Venus therefore have only 50% strength. The same goes for L3 Mercury, which is transiting Libra. It only has 50% strength there, due to the weakness of Venus. L1 Moon is also transiting the sign of Virgo H3 today, where it is also equally weak. As a result, the US stock market has resumed its slide today, following adverse news about profits in the automotive sector. General Motors announced it had to write of $39 billion due to tax write-offs it cannot utilise due to the weak growth outlook. What is more, the abovementioned planets will remain weak in transit for some more weaks: - Jupiter will enter Sagittarius on 22 November and not be in full strength until mid December. - Sun will enter full strength in Scorpio around 22 November - Venus will enter Libra in early December - Mercury will enter full strength in Scorpio in early December. China has also announced it may dump dollars as a reserve currency today. This has shocked participants in the foreign exchange markets. As a result, the US stock market and the dollar could be expected to weaken or remain weak for some more weeks. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear list members, > > Today. there are promising signs the conditions of financial markets > have bottomed out and will soon begin to improve. > > - The dollar is at an all time low viz-a-viz the euro and is very low > relative to the pound. > - The stock market in Europe seems to be stabilising and even rising > this morning > - The stock markets in Asia recovered last night. > > This is consistent with my reading of the transits last week. > > Moreover, the Prediction by on 26 September 2007 > has played out exactly, especially his emphasis on the losses > associated with the sub-prime loans. When he made the following > prediction, this problem appeared to be on the way to recover, then > in mid October the crises erupted again and has remained intense for > the past few weeks, with as a result the stock markets, commodity > prices (oil and gold) and currency values fluctuating much more than > most market participants were expecting. This shows the value of SA > in reading the planetary influences on collective psychology, > including in the financial markets: > > -------------------- > Message #14095 of 14231 < Prev | Next > > > Hello list members, > > The sub prime housing loans problem in US markets is causing concerns > for a prolonged economic slow down which is likely to result in > global setbacks for markets. Astrologically, the situation seems to > be of some concerns in October, 2007, and is likely to start looking > up after middle of November, 2007. > > Best wishes. > > > -------------------- > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear , > > > > Thank you for highlighting the astrological influence in the SAMVA > > USA chart behind the ongoing turbulence in US financial markets. > > > > I presume the applying conjunction of transit L2 Sun, in > > debilitation, to natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra H4 is also > contributing > > to the downturn. The Sun will begin to seperate from the nodal axis > > on Monday when the conjunction of transit L6 Jupiter becomes exact > > with natal L8 Saturn. I expect the disturbance will begin to recede > > after that, also in view of the fact that the orb of the > conjunction > > of transit L8 Saturn and transit Ketu in Leo H2 will by then exceed > > 2° and the nodes are no longer stationary. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello dear list members, > > > > > > Just see the impact of the transit sixth lord forming exact > > conjunction with natal eighth lord in the SAMVA US chart. All > > indices of US stock markets are significantly in the red. It is > > likely to shake the global markets. NYSE composit is down by 210 > > points while the D J Industrials is down by 279 points. > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 PS and let us not forget that predicted the stock market would not be expected to improve until after mid November. SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear friends, > > The still close conjunction of transit L6 Jupiter at 27° 00' Scorpio > H5 to natal L8 Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5 in the SAMVA USA chart is > likely the explanation for the ongoing disturbance in the US > financial market today. The Venus-Jupiter period is operating in the > chart, so the transit of Jupiter has special importance. > > I expected some improvement regarding the seperation of L2 Sun from > the nodal axis. However, the condition of L2 Sun in transit through > Libra, its sign of debilitation, is still weak even if it is > seperating from the natal nodes. Moreover, its dispositor, L4 Venus, > is also quite weak, as it is now transiting Virgo H3, the sign of its > debilitation. Both Sun and Venus therefore have only 50% strength. > The same goes for L3 Mercury, which is transiting Libra. It only has > 50% strength there, due to the weakness of Venus. L1 Moon is also > transiting the sign of Virgo H3 today, where it is also equally weak. > As a result, the US stock market has resumed its slide today, > following adverse news about profits in the automotive sector. > General Motors announced it had to write of $39 billion due to tax > write-offs it cannot utilise due to the weak growth outlook. > > What is more, the abovementioned planets will remain weak in transit > for some more weaks: > > - Jupiter will enter Sagittarius on 22 November and not be in full > strength until mid December. > - Sun will enter full strength in Scorpio around 22 November > - Venus will enter Libra in early December > - Mercury will enter full strength in Scorpio in early December. > > China has also announced it may dump dollars as a reserve currency > today. This has shocked participants in the foreign exchange markets. > > As a result, the US stock market and the dollar could be expected to > weaken or remain weak for some more weeks. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear list members, > > > > Today. there are promising signs the conditions of financial > markets > > have bottomed out and will soon begin to improve. > > > > - The dollar is at an all time low viz-a-viz the euro and is very > low > > relative to the pound. > > - The stock market in Europe seems to be stabilising and even > rising > > this morning > > - The stock markets in Asia recovered last night. > > > > This is consistent with my reading of the transits last week. > > > > Moreover, the Prediction by on 26 September 2007 > > has played out exactly, especially his emphasis on the losses > > associated with the sub-prime loans. When he made the following > > prediction, this problem appeared to be on the way to recover, then > > in mid October the crises erupted again and has remained intense > for > > the past few weeks, with as a result the stock markets, commodity > > prices (oil and gold) and currency values fluctuating much more > than > > most market participants were expecting. This shows the value of SA > > in reading the planetary influences on collective psychology, > > including in the financial markets: > > > > -------------------- > > Message #14095 of 14231 < Prev | Next > > > > > Hello list members, > > > > The sub prime housing loans problem in US markets is causing > concerns > > for a prolonged economic slow down which is likely to result in > > global setbacks for markets. Astrologically, the situation seems to > > be of some concerns in October, 2007, and is likely to start > looking > > up after middle of November, 2007. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > Thank you for highlighting the astrological influence in the > SAMVA > > > USA chart behind the ongoing turbulence in US financial markets. > > > > > > I presume the applying conjunction of transit L2 Sun, in > > > debilitation, to natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra H4 is also > > contributing > > > to the downturn. The Sun will begin to seperate from the nodal > axis > > > on Monday when the conjunction of transit L6 Jupiter becomes > exact > > > with natal L8 Saturn. I expect the disturbance will begin to > recede > > > after that, also in view of the fact that the orb of the > > conjunction > > > of transit L8 Saturn and transit Ketu in Leo H2 will by then > exceed > > > 2° and the nodes are no longer stationary. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello dear list members, > > > > > > > > Just see the impact of the transit sixth lord forming exact > > > conjunction with natal eighth lord in the SAMVA US chart. All > > > indices of US stock markets are significantly in the red. It is > > > likely to shake the global markets. NYSE composit is down by 210 > > > points while the D J Industrials is down by 279 points. > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Dear , I have one question. You have earlier predicte that the stock markets will begin to stabilise and recover from mid November. I expect the main influence is due to Saturn and Ketu being further apart in Leo and the nodes again moving at normal speed. My question relates more to what to expect in the USA based on the SAMVA USA chart. In particular, what would be the expected implication of Jupiter entering Sagittarius. In coming weeks or next month, Venus, Sun and Mercury are also to regain their strength in transit. That should help the overall situation in the USA. However, the main question concerns the sub-period lord, Jupiter and if its entry into its own sign, Sagittarius, is going to outweight its placement in the malefic H6 in the SAMVA USA chart. Would the situation be expected to improve or deteriorate with respect to the indications of Jupiter in the USA? Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > PS and let us not forget that predicted the stock > market would not be expected to improve until after mid November. > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > The still close conjunction of transit L6 Jupiter at 27° 00' > Scorpio > > H5 to natal L8 Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5 in the SAMVA USA chart > is > > likely the explanation for the ongoing disturbance in the US > > financial market today. The Venus-Jupiter period is operating in > the > > chart, so the transit of Jupiter has special importance. > > > > I expected some improvement regarding the seperation of L2 Sun from > > the nodal axis. However, the condition of L2 Sun in transit through > > Libra, its sign of debilitation, is still weak even if it is > > seperating from the natal nodes. Moreover, its dispositor, L4 > Venus, > > is also quite weak, as it is now transiting Virgo H3, the sign of > its > > debilitation. Both Sun and Venus therefore have only 50% strength. > > The same goes for L3 Mercury, which is transiting Libra. It only > has > > 50% strength there, due to the weakness of Venus. L1 Moon is also > > transiting the sign of Virgo H3 today, where it is also equally > weak. > > As a result, the US stock market has resumed its slide today, > > following adverse news about profits in the automotive sector. > > General Motors announced it had to write of $39 billion due to tax > > write-offs it cannot utilise due to the weak growth outlook. > > > > What is more, the abovementioned planets will remain weak in > transit > > for some more weaks: > > > > - Jupiter will enter Sagittarius on 22 November and not be in full > > strength until mid December. > > - Sun will enter full strength in Scorpio around 22 November > > - Venus will enter Libra in early December > > - Mercury will enter full strength in Scorpio in early December. > > > > China has also announced it may dump dollars as a reserve currency > > today. This has shocked participants in the foreign exchange > markets. > > > > As a result, the US stock market and the dollar could be expected > to > > weaken or remain weak for some more weeks. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > Today. there are promising signs the conditions of financial > > markets > > > have bottomed out and will soon begin to improve. > > > > > > - The dollar is at an all time low viz-a-viz the euro and is very > > low > > > relative to the pound. > > > - The stock market in Europe seems to be stabilising and even > > rising > > > this morning > > > - The stock markets in Asia recovered last night. > > > > > > This is consistent with my reading of the transits last week. > > > > > > Moreover, the Prediction by on 26 September > 2007 > > > has played out exactly, especially his emphasis on the losses > > > associated with the sub-prime loans. When he made the following > > > prediction, this problem appeared to be on the way to recover, > then > > > in mid October the crises erupted again and has remained intense > > for > > > the past few weeks, with as a result the stock markets, commodity > > > prices (oil and gold) and currency values fluctuating much more > > than > > > most market participants were expecting. This shows the value of > SA > > > in reading the planetary influences on collective psychology, > > > including in the financial markets: > > > > > > -------------------- > > > Message #14095 of 14231 < Prev | Next > > > > > > > Hello list members, > > > > > > The sub prime housing loans problem in US markets is causing > > concerns > > > for a prolonged economic slow down which is likely to result in > > > global setbacks for markets. Astrologically, the situation seems > to > > > be of some concerns in October, 2007, and is likely to start > > looking > > > up after middle of November, 2007. > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > Thank you for highlighting the astrological influence in the > > SAMVA > > > > USA chart behind the ongoing turbulence in US financial > markets. > > > > > > > > I presume the applying conjunction of transit L2 Sun, in > > > > debilitation, to natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra H4 is also > > > contributing > > > > to the downturn. The Sun will begin to seperate from the nodal > > axis > > > > on Monday when the conjunction of transit L6 Jupiter becomes > > exact > > > > with natal L8 Saturn. I expect the disturbance will begin to > > recede > > > > after that, also in view of the fact that the orb of the > > > conjunction > > > > of transit L8 Saturn and transit Ketu in Leo H2 will by then > > exceed > > > > 2° and the nodes are no longer stationary. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > Just see the impact of the transit sixth lord forming exact > > > > conjunction with natal eighth lord in the SAMVA US chart. All > > > > indices of US stock markets are significantly in the red. It is > > > > likely to shake the global markets. NYSE composit is down by > 210 > > > > points while the D J Industrials is down by 279 points. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Hello dear Mr. Thor, I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear , > > I have one question. You have earlier predicte that the stock markets > will begin to stabilise and recover from mid November. I expect the > main influence is due to Saturn and Ketu being further apart in Leo > and the nodes again moving at normal speed. YES BESIDES THE EXACT IMPACT OF TRANSIT JUPITER ON NATAL SATURN CEASING TO EXIST. My question relates more > to what to expect in the USA based on the SAMVA USA chart. In > particular, what would be the expected implication of Jupiter > entering Sagittarius. MOVEMENT OF JUPITER TO SAGITTARIUS AND GAINING STRENGTH WOULD BE POSITIVE FOR THE ECONOMY OF US. In coming weeks or next month, Venus, Sun and > Mercury are also to regain their strength in transit. That should > help the overall situation in the USA. YES. However, the main question > concerns the sub-period lord, Jupiter and if its entry into its own > sign, Sagittarius, is going to outweight its placement in the malefic > H6 in the SAMVA USA chart. Would the situation be expected to improve > or deteriorate with respect to the indications of Jupiter in the USA? AS STATED ABOVE MOVEMENT OF JUPITER TO SAGITTARIUS AND GAINING STRENGTH WOULD BE POSITIVE FOR THE ECONOMY OF US. > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > PS and let us not forget that predicted the > stock > > market would not be expected to improve until after mid November. > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > The still close conjunction of transit L6 Jupiter at 27° 00' > > Scorpio > > > H5 to natal L8 Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5 in the SAMVA USA > chart > > is > > > likely the explanation for the ongoing disturbance in the US > > > financial market today. The Venus-Jupiter period is operating in > > the > > > chart, so the transit of Jupiter has special importance. > > > > > > I expected some improvement regarding the seperation of L2 Sun > from > > > the nodal axis. However, the condition of L2 Sun in transit > through > > > Libra, its sign of debilitation, is still weak even if it is > > > seperating from the natal nodes. Moreover, its dispositor, L4 > > Venus, > > > is also quite weak, as it is now transiting Virgo H3, the sign of > > its > > > debilitation. Both Sun and Venus therefore have only 50% > strength. > > > The same goes for L3 Mercury, which is transiting Libra. It only > > has > > > 50% strength there, due to the weakness of Venus. L1 Moon is also > > > transiting the sign of Virgo H3 today, where it is also equally > > weak. > > > As a result, the US stock market has resumed its slide today, > > > following adverse news about profits in the automotive sector. > > > General Motors announced it had to write of $39 billion due to > tax > > > write-offs it cannot utilise due to the weak growth outlook. > > > > > > What is more, the abovementioned planets will remain weak in > > transit > > > for some more weaks: > > > > > > - Jupiter will enter Sagittarius on 22 November and not be in > full > > > strength until mid December. > > > - Sun will enter full strength in Scorpio around 22 November > > > - Venus will enter Libra in early December > > > - Mercury will enter full strength in Scorpio in early December. > > > > > > China has also announced it may dump dollars as a reserve > currency > > > today. This has shocked participants in the foreign exchange > > markets. > > > > > > As a result, the US stock market and the dollar could be expected > > to > > > weaken or remain weak for some more weeks. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > Today. there are promising signs the conditions of financial > > > markets > > > > have bottomed out and will soon begin to improve. > > > > > > > > - The dollar is at an all time low viz-a-viz the euro and is > very > > > low > > > > relative to the pound. > > > > - The stock market in Europe seems to be stabilising and even > > > rising > > > > this morning > > > > - The stock markets in Asia recovered last night. > > > > > > > > This is consistent with my reading of the transits last week. > > > > > > > > Moreover, the Prediction by on 26 September > > 2007 > > > > has played out exactly, especially his emphasis on the losses > > > > associated with the sub-prime loans. When he made the following > > > > prediction, this problem appeared to be on the way to recover, > > then > > > > in mid October the crises erupted again and has remained > intense > > > for > > > > the past few weeks, with as a result the stock markets, > commodity > > > > prices (oil and gold) and currency values fluctuating much more > > > than > > > > most market participants were expecting. This shows the value > of > > SA > > > > in reading the planetary influences on collective psychology, > > > > including in the financial markets: > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > Message #14095 of 14231 < Prev | Next > > > > > > > > > Hello list members, > > > > > > > > The sub prime housing loans problem in US markets is causing > > > concerns > > > > for a prolonged economic slow down which is likely to result in > > > > global setbacks for markets. Astrologically, the situation > seems > > to > > > > be of some concerns in October, 2007, and is likely to start > > > looking > > > > up after middle of November, 2007. > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for highlighting the astrological influence in the > > > SAMVA > > > > > USA chart behind the ongoing turbulence in US financial > > markets. > > > > > > > > > > I presume the applying conjunction of transit L2 Sun, in > > > > > debilitation, to natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra H4 is also > > > > contributing > > > > > to the downturn. The Sun will begin to seperate from the > nodal > > > axis > > > > > on Monday when the conjunction of transit L6 Jupiter becomes > > > exact > > > > > with natal L8 Saturn. I expect the disturbance will begin to > > > recede > > > > > after that, also in view of the fact that the orb of the > > > > conjunction > > > > > of transit L8 Saturn and transit Ketu in Leo H2 will by then > > > exceed > > > > > 2° and the nodes are no longer stationary. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Just see the impact of the transit sixth lord forming exact > > > > > conjunction with natal eighth lord in the SAMVA US chart. > All > > > > > indices of US stock markets are significantly in the red. It > is > > > > > likely to shake the global markets. NYSE composit is down by > > 210 > > > > > points while the D J Industrials is down by 279 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Dear , Thank you for the clarification. It is good that the economic situation is seen to improve after Jupiter has entered Sagittarius. I guess the same applies to the situation in financial markets. As for the condition of the markets today, although sizable losses have been realised so far this week, the stock markets appear to have begun to claw their way back from the lows seen earlier in the day. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " V K CHOUDHRY " <siha wrote: > > Hello dear Mr. Thor, > > I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended > below. > > Best wishes. > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear , > > > > I have one question. You have earlier predicte that the stock > markets > > will begin to stabilise and recover from mid November. I expect the > > main influence is due to Saturn and Ketu being further apart in Leo > > and the nodes again moving at normal speed. > > YES BESIDES THE EXACT IMPACT OF TRANSIT JUPITER ON NATAL SATURN > CEASING TO EXIST. > > My question relates more > > to what to expect in the USA based on the SAMVA USA chart. In > > particular, what would be the expected implication of Jupiter > > entering Sagittarius. > > MOVEMENT OF JUPITER TO SAGITTARIUS AND GAINING STRENGTH WOULD BE > POSITIVE FOR THE ECONOMY OF US. > > In coming weeks or next month, Venus, Sun and > > Mercury are also to regain their strength in transit. That should > > help the overall situation in the USA. > YES. > However, the main question > > concerns the sub-period lord, Jupiter and if its entry into its own > > sign, Sagittarius, is going to outweight its placement in the > malefic > > H6 in the SAMVA USA chart. Would the situation be expected to > improve > > or deteriorate with respect to the indications of Jupiter in the > USA? > > AS STATED ABOVE MOVEMENT OF JUPITER TO SAGITTARIUS AND GAINING > STRENGTH WOULD BE POSITIVE FOR THE ECONOMY OF US. > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > PS and let us not forget that predicted the > > stock > > > market would not be expected to improve until after mid November. > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > The still close conjunction of transit L6 Jupiter at 27° 00' > > > Scorpio > > > > H5 to natal L8 Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5 in the SAMVA USA > > chart > > > is > > > > likely the explanation for the ongoing disturbance in the US > > > > financial market today. The Venus-Jupiter period is operating > in > > > the > > > > chart, so the transit of Jupiter has special importance. > > > > > > > > I expected some improvement regarding the seperation of L2 Sun > > from > > > > the nodal axis. However, the condition of L2 Sun in transit > > through > > > > Libra, its sign of debilitation, is still weak even if it is > > > > seperating from the natal nodes. Moreover, its dispositor, L4 > > > Venus, > > > > is also quite weak, as it is now transiting Virgo H3, the sign > of > > > its > > > > debilitation. Both Sun and Venus therefore have only 50% > > strength. > > > > The same goes for L3 Mercury, which is transiting Libra. It > only > > > has > > > > 50% strength there, due to the weakness of Venus. L1 Moon is > also > > > > transiting the sign of Virgo H3 today, where it is also equally > > > weak. > > > > As a result, the US stock market has resumed its slide today, > > > > following adverse news about profits in the automotive sector. > > > > General Motors announced it had to write of $39 billion due to > > tax > > > > write-offs it cannot utilise due to the weak growth outlook. > > > > > > > > What is more, the abovementioned planets will remain weak in > > > transit > > > > for some more weaks: > > > > > > > > - Jupiter will enter Sagittarius on 22 November and not be in > > full > > > > strength until mid December. > > > > - Sun will enter full strength in Scorpio around 22 November > > > > - Venus will enter Libra in early December > > > > - Mercury will enter full strength in Scorpio in early > December. > > > > > > > > China has also announced it may dump dollars as a reserve > > currency > > > > today. This has shocked participants in the foreign exchange > > > markets. > > > > > > > > As a result, the US stock market and the dollar could be > expected > > > to > > > > weaken or remain weak for some more weeks. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > Today. there are promising signs the conditions of financial > > > > markets > > > > > have bottomed out and will soon begin to improve. > > > > > > > > > > - The dollar is at an all time low viz-a-viz the euro and is > > very > > > > low > > > > > relative to the pound. > > > > > - The stock market in Europe seems to be stabilising and even > > > > rising > > > > > this morning > > > > > - The stock markets in Asia recovered last night. > > > > > > > > > > This is consistent with my reading of the transits last week. > > > > > > > > > > Moreover, the Prediction by on 26 > September > > > 2007 > > > > > has played out exactly, especially his emphasis on the losses > > > > > associated with the sub-prime loans. When he made the > following > > > > > prediction, this problem appeared to be on the way to > recover, > > > then > > > > > in mid October the crises erupted again and has remained > > intense > > > > for > > > > > the past few weeks, with as a result the stock markets, > > commodity > > > > > prices (oil and gold) and currency values fluctuating much > more > > > > than > > > > > most market participants were expecting. This shows the value > > of > > > SA > > > > > in reading the planetary influences on collective psychology, > > > > > including in the financial markets: > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > > Message #14095 of 14231 < Prev | Next > > > > > > > > > > > Hello list members, > > > > > > > > > > The sub prime housing loans problem in US markets is causing > > > > concerns > > > > > for a prolonged economic slow down which is likely to result > in > > > > > global setbacks for markets. Astrologically, the situation > > seems > > > to > > > > > be of some concerns in October, 2007, and is likely to start > > > > looking > > > > > up after middle of November, 2007. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for highlighting the astrological influence in > the > > > > SAMVA > > > > > > USA chart behind the ongoing turbulence in US financial > > > markets. > > > > > > > > > > > > I presume the applying conjunction of transit L2 Sun, in > > > > > > debilitation, to natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra H4 is also > > > > > contributing > > > > > > to the downturn. The Sun will begin to seperate from the > > nodal > > > > axis > > > > > > on Monday when the conjunction of transit L6 Jupiter > becomes > > > > exact > > > > > > with natal L8 Saturn. I expect the disturbance will begin > to > > > > recede > > > > > > after that, also in view of the fact that the orb of the > > > > > conjunction > > > > > > of transit L8 Saturn and transit Ketu in Leo H2 will by > then > > > > exceed > > > > > > 2° and the nodes are no longer stationary. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just see the impact of the transit sixth lord forming > exact > > > > > > conjunction with natal eighth lord in the SAMVA US chart. > > All > > > > > > indices of US stock markets are significantly in the red. > It > > is > > > > > > likely to shake the global markets. NYSE composit is down > by > > > 210 > > > > > > points while the D J Industrials is down by 279 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Hello my dear Thor, Yes, your guess is right. Best wishes. - " cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Friday, November 09, 2007 1:57 AM Re: TRANSIT INFLUENCES IN SAMVA US CHART Dear , Thank you for the clarification. It is good that the economic situation is seen to improve after Jupiter has entered Sagittarius. I guess the same applies to the situation in financial markets. As for the condition of the markets today, although sizable losses have been realised so far this week, the stock markets appear to have begun to claw their way back from the lows seen earlier in the day. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " V K CHOUDHRY " <siha wrote: > > Hello dear Mr. Thor, > > I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended > below. > > Best wishes. > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear , > > > > I have one question. You have earlier predicte that the stock > markets > > will begin to stabilise and recover from mid November. I expect the > > main influence is due to Saturn and Ketu being further apart in Leo > > and the nodes again moving at normal speed. > > YES BESIDES THE EXACT IMPACT OF TRANSIT JUPITER ON NATAL SATURN > CEASING TO EXIST. > > My question relates more > > to what to expect in the USA based on the SAMVA USA chart. In > > particular, what would be the expected implication of Jupiter > > entering Sagittarius. > > MOVEMENT OF JUPITER TO SAGITTARIUS AND GAINING STRENGTH WOULD BE > POSITIVE FOR THE ECONOMY OF US. > > In coming weeks or next month, Venus, Sun and > > Mercury are also to regain their strength in transit. That should > > help the overall situation in the USA. > YES. > However, the main question > > concerns the sub-period lord, Jupiter and if its entry into its own > > sign, Sagittarius, is going to outweight its placement in the > malefic > > H6 in the SAMVA USA chart. Would the situation be expected to > improve > > or deteriorate with respect to the indications of Jupiter in the > USA? > > AS STATED ABOVE MOVEMENT OF JUPITER TO SAGITTARIUS AND GAINING > STRENGTH WOULD BE POSITIVE FOR THE ECONOMY OF US. > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > PS and let us not forget that predicted the > > stock > > > market would not be expected to improve until after mid November. > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > The still close conjunction of transit L6 Jupiter at 27° 00' > > > Scorpio > > > > H5 to natal L8 Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5 in the SAMVA USA > > chart > > > is > > > > likely the explanation for the ongoing disturbance in the US > > > > financial market today. The Venus-Jupiter period is operating > in > > > the > > > > chart, so the transit of Jupiter has special importance. > > > > > > > > I expected some improvement regarding the seperation of L2 Sun > > from > > > > the nodal axis. However, the condition of L2 Sun in transit > > through > > > > Libra, its sign of debilitation, is still weak even if it is > > > > seperating from the natal nodes. Moreover, its dispositor, L4 > > > Venus, > > > > is also quite weak, as it is now transiting Virgo H3, the sign > of > > > its > > > > debilitation. Both Sun and Venus therefore have only 50% > > strength. > > > > The same goes for L3 Mercury, which is transiting Libra. It > only > > > has > > > > 50% strength there, due to the weakness of Venus. L1 Moon is > also > > > > transiting the sign of Virgo H3 today, where it is also equally > > > weak. > > > > As a result, the US stock market has resumed its slide today, > > > > following adverse news about profits in the automotive sector. > > > > General Motors announced it had to write of $39 billion due to > > tax > > > > write-offs it cannot utilise due to the weak growth outlook. > > > > > > > > What is more, the abovementioned planets will remain weak in > > > transit > > > > for some more weaks: > > > > > > > > - Jupiter will enter Sagittarius on 22 November and not be in > > full > > > > strength until mid December. > > > > - Sun will enter full strength in Scorpio around 22 November > > > > - Venus will enter Libra in early December > > > > - Mercury will enter full strength in Scorpio in early > December. > > > > > > > > China has also announced it may dump dollars as a reserve > > currency > > > > today. This has shocked participants in the foreign exchange > > > markets. > > > > > > > > As a result, the US stock market and the dollar could be > expected > > > to > > > > weaken or remain weak for some more weeks. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > Today. there are promising signs the conditions of financial > > > > markets > > > > > have bottomed out and will soon begin to improve. > > > > > > > > > > - The dollar is at an all time low viz-a-viz the euro and is > > very > > > > low > > > > > relative to the pound. > > > > > - The stock market in Europe seems to be stabilising and even > > > > rising > > > > > this morning > > > > > - The stock markets in Asia recovered last night. > > > > > > > > > > This is consistent with my reading of the transits last week. > > > > > > > > > > Moreover, the Prediction by on 26 > September > > > 2007 > > > > > has played out exactly, especially his emphasis on the losses > > > > > associated with the sub-prime loans. When he made the > following > > > > > prediction, this problem appeared to be on the way to > recover, > > > then > > > > > in mid October the crises erupted again and has remained > > intense > > > > for > > > > > the past few weeks, with as a result the stock markets, > > commodity > > > > > prices (oil and gold) and currency values fluctuating much > more > > > > than > > > > > most market participants were expecting. This shows the value > > of > > > SA > > > > > in reading the planetary influences on collective psychology, > > > > > including in the financial markets: > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > > Message #14095 of 14231 < Prev | Next > > > > > > > > > > > Hello list members, > > > > > > > > > > The sub prime housing loans problem in US markets is causing > > > > concerns > > > > > for a prolonged economic slow down which is likely to result > in > > > > > global setbacks for markets. Astrologically, the situation > > seems > > > to > > > > > be of some concerns in October, 2007, and is likely to start > > > > looking > > > > > up after middle of November, 2007. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for highlighting the astrological influence in > the > > > > SAMVA > > > > > > USA chart behind the ongoing turbulence in US financial > > > markets. > > > > > > > > > > > > I presume the applying conjunction of transit L2 Sun, in > > > > > > debilitation, to natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra H4 is also > > > > > contributing > > > > > > to the downturn. The Sun will begin to seperate from the > > nodal > > > > axis > > > > > > on Monday when the conjunction of transit L6 Jupiter > becomes > > > > exact > > > > > > with natal L8 Saturn. I expect the disturbance will begin > to > > > > recede > > > > > > after that, also in view of the fact that the orb of the > > > > > conjunction > > > > > > of transit L8 Saturn and transit Ketu in Leo H2 will by > then > > > > exceed > > > > > > 2° and the nodes are no longer stationary. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , <siha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello dear list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just see the impact of the transit sixth lord forming > exact > > > > > > conjunction with natal eighth lord in the SAMVA US chart. > > All > > > > > > indices of US stock markets are significantly in the red. > It > > is > > > > > > likely to shake the global markets. NYSE composit is down > by > > > 210 > > > > > > points while the D J Industrials is down by 279 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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