Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Dear friends, In the 23° 43' Cancer rising chart for Iran, there is a very difficult transit of L8 Saturn setting in. The Ra/Ve period is running. Transit Saturn is now coming EXACTLY conjunct its natal placement at 14° 43' Leo H2, where it will aspect natal L1 Moon at 13° Taurus H11. During the week of 7-14 December, when sub-period lord L4 Venus is around 6°-15° Libra, it will come under some difficult aspects, including from both transit and natal Saturn. These transits suggest that the situation for Iran will become very difficult in coming few months. Best wishes, Thor U.N. losing grip on Iran nuke plan Story Highlights The U.N.'s nuclear watchdog says it is losing touch on Iran's nuclear program Tehran continuing its enrichment activities in defiance of sanctions, it says Iranian nuclear negotiator says Tehran is being transparent Next Article in World » NEW YORK (CNN) -- The U.N.'s nuclear watchdog admitted Thursday it was no longer in touch with how Iran's nuclear program was developing, even as Tehran continues its enrichment activities in defiance of sanctions. Mohamed ElBaradei says Iran has cooperated in some areas but not others. A report from International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei, said that while Iran has cooperated in several areas -- by providing access to declared nuclear material, documents and facilities -- it is withholding in others. "It should be noted that, since early 2006, the agency has not received the type of information that Iran had previously been providing," the report said. "As a result, the agency's knowledge about Iran's current nuclear program is diminishing." Iran's new nuclear negotiator, Dr. Saeed Jalili, disputed that statement in a news conference shortly after the report's release. He said Tehran has been transparent in response to all requests from the IAEA, and said his country now wants the rights to which it is entitled regarding its nuclear program. Jalili also warned that if the Security Council passes another resolution against Iran, future dealings would be in question. Don't Miss Iran charges 'nuclear traitor' Gates: China urging Iran on nukes "If a new resolution is passed -- it seems farfetched to me ... based on these transparent reports ... if the report is bypassed and ignored ... then it will affect our future cooperation," he said. The U.N. Security Council has already passed two rounds of sanctions against Tehran. U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., Zalmay Khalilzad, said Thursday Washington would like to see more "biting" restrictions passed against Iran, although China is showing reluctance for further measures. The United States said the report shows Tehran's cooperation with the IAEA "remains selective and incomplete." "Iran has not met the world's expectation of full disclosure," said a statement issued by the U.S. Mission to International Organizations in Vienna. "Iran refused to implement the additional protocol and to provide early information on new nuclear facilities," it said. While the IAEA report agreed that Iran had been cooperative regarding answering questions about the history of its nuclear program -- and said the answers largely matched its own findings -- it said the agency will continue to pursue information about contamination issues and activities that could have military applications. "Iran has provided sufficient access to individuals and has responded in a timely manner to questions and provided clarifications and amplifications on issues raised in the context of the work plan," the report said. "However, its cooperation has been reactive rather than proactive. As previously stated, Iran's active cooperation and full transparency are indispensable for full and prompt implementation of the work plan." In Britain, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said it would study ElBaradei's report carefully and share its views at the IAEA Board of Governors meeting next week. It also warned that if talks with EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana "do not show a positive outcome ... we will pursue further Security Council and EU sanctions." The talks with Solana and Iranian negotiators have not yet been scheduled, although Jalili said Thursday he had invited Solana to Iran for a meeting Friday. Iran insists its nuclear program is necessary to provide civilian energy for the country, but the United States has voiced concern its true purpose is to produce nuclear weapons. Iranian Energy Minister Parviz Fattah said Thursday at an inauguration for a development project that Tehran plans to produce nuclear energy "to supply its energy needs because gas and fuel would run out," according to the state-run news agency IRNA. E-mail to a friend Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Dear friends, Just to add some background to this post. Let us recall that on October 18 2007 " President Bush issued a stark warning on Iran...suggesting that if the country obtained nuclear arms, it could lead to " World War III. " Now the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) is reporting that Iran is not cooperating about giving information about its 3000 centrifuges. This is causing concerns by Russia and China about a full break of Iran with the IAEA. Britain is calling for increase pressure on the Iranian regime. Meanwhile it is reported that US Generals are warning Bush that an attack on Iran would have devastating repercussions in the region. In short, the situation is clearly heating up again, as the transits in the chart for Itan clearly indicate. Best wishes, Thor 1. Decision time for US over Iran threat UN nuclear report heightens tension Julian Borger, diplomatic editor Friday November 16, 2007 The Guardian Iran has installed 3,000 centrifuges for enriching uranium - enough to begin industrial-scale production of nuclear fuel and build a warhead within a year, the UN's nuclear watchdog reported last night. The report by Mohamed ElBaradei, director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), will intensify US and European pressure for tighter sanctions and increase speculation of a potential military conflict. The installation of 3,000 fully-functioning centrifuges at Iran's enrichment plant at Natanz is a " red line " drawn by the US across which Washington had said it would not let Iran pass. When spinning at full speed they are capable of producing sufficient weapons-grade uranium (enriched to over 90% purity) for a nuclear weapon within a year. The IAEA says the uranium being produced is only fuel grade (enriched to 4%) but the confirmation that Iran has reached the 3,000 centrifuge benchmark brings closer a moment of truth for the Bush administration, when it will have to choose between taking military action or abandoning its red line, and accepting Iran's technical mastery of uranium enrichment. US generals are reported to have warned the White House that military action would trigger a devastating Iranian backlash in the Middle East and beyond. Russian officials yesterday called for patience, insisting Iran could still clinch a deal with the international community in the next few weeks. They pointed to other parts of the IAEA report showing Tehran had been cooperating with the agency's inspectors on other nuclear issues. " We are most concerned to prevent Iran being cornered so that they walk out of the Non Proliferation Treaty, and break relations with the IAEA, " one Russian source said. He said Chinese officials were stepping up diplomatic pressure on Iran, with Moscow, to avert a collision. " They are on high alert that something has to be done quickly, " the source said. The Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, also seized on positive parts of the IAEA report, noting increased Iranian cooperation with inspectors, as vindication for Tehran. He said: " The world will see that the Iranian nation has been right and the resistance of our nation has been correct. " Last night, a Foreign Office spokesman said: " If Iran wants to restore trust in its programme it must come clean on all outstanding issues without delay. " Gordon Brown has called for increased pressure on Tehran, including an international ban on investment in the Iranian oil and gas industry. But UK officials are nervous about pressure from the US vice president Dick Cheney and other hawks for military action against Iran before a new administration takes office in January 2009. They emphasise that Iranian scientists could be months if not years away from getting the 3,000 centrifuges to function properly, at top speed, for a sustained period, and insist there is no imminent pressure for military intervention. However, they also point out that Israel's red lines for military action are unclear. Against the fraught backdrop, a meeting of senior officials from the UN security council's five permanent members and Germany to decide on sanctions, planned for Monday, was put off after the Chinese delegation said it could not attend. The critical meeting has been pushed back to later this month, giving time for the six-nation group's negotiator, Javier Solana, the EU foreign policy chief, to hold last-ditch talks with Iranian officials. The ElBaradei report gave a mixed account of Iran's cooperation with inspectors looking into Tehran's nuclear activity in the two decades before it declared its enrichment programme. " Iran has provided sufficient access to individuals and has responded in a timely manner to questions, " it said, but added that " cooperation has been reactive rather than proactive " . David Albright, a former UN inspector and now an independent nuclear expert in Washington, said ElBaradei appeared to be trying to put " a happy face " on a worsening situation. " The main issue is that Iran now has 3,000 centrifuges, " he said. " The report doesn't even judge the quality of the information being offered, but it's clear it is giving minimal answers. " http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2212071,00.html 2. Nuclear-Armed Iran Risks World War, Bush Says Stephen Crowley/The New York Times President Bush said at a news conference Wednesday that his tactics were aimed at persuading the Iranians to find new leaders. By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG Published: October 18, 2007 WASHINGTON, Oct. 17 — President Bush issued a stark warning on Iran on Wednesday, suggesting that if the country obtained nuclear arms, it could lead to " World War III. " Putin Is Said to Offer Idea on Standoff Over Iran (October 18, 2007) " We got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel, " Mr. Bush said at a White House news conference, referring to a remark by the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, that Israel " will disappear soon. " Mr. Bush said he had " told people that if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon. " Mr. Bush has said in the past that he would never " tolerate " a nuclear-armed Iran. But the comment on Wednesday was another sign that he did not accept a view stated last month by Gen. John P. Abizaid, who retired this year as the top American commander in the Middle East. The general said that " there are ways to live with a nuclear Iran. " Mr. Bush sought in the news conference to make clear that his pressure tactics, including economic sanctions, were aimed at persuading the Iranian people to find new leadership. " The whole strategy is that, you know, at some point in time leaders or responsible folks inside of Iran may get tired of isolation and say, `This isn't worth it,' and to me it's worth the effort to keep the pressure on this government, " Mr. Bush said. He added, " My intent is to continue to rally the world, to send a focused signal to the Iranian government that we will continue to work to isolate you in the hopes that at some point somebody else shows up and says it's not worth the isolation. " The president was responding to a question about the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin, who visited Iran this week and warned the United States against military action there. Before that, in Moscow, Mr. Putin said he saw " no evidence " that Iran was trying to acquire nuclear weapons. Mr. Bush insisted that he and Mr. Putin see eye to eye on the Iranian nuclear threat. " We don't agree on a lot of issues, " Mr. Bush said. " We do agree on some: Iran is one; nuclear proliferation is another. " The president made his remarks on a day when Mr. Putin appeared in newspaper photographs standing side by side with Mr. Ahmadinejad. Mr. Bush dismissed any notion that the pictures reflected like- mindedness, saying, " Generally, leaders don't like to be photographed scowling at each other. " Mr. Bush has never quite been able to ride out his oft-quoted remark that he had looked into Mr. Putin's eyes and gotten " a sense of his soul. " On Wednesday, he defended his brand of personal diplomacy, even as he expressed a wariness about Mr. Putin's commitment to democracy. Under Russia's Constitution, Mr. Putin is supposed to step down next year, but he has indicated that he may try to keep his power by becoming prime minister. At a recent meeting in Australia, Mr. Bush said, he asked Mr. Putin about his plans. " I tried to, you know, get it out of him — who's going to be his successor, what he intends to do, " Mr. Bush said. " And he was wily. He wouldn't tip his hand. " http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/18/washington/18prexy.html SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear friends, > > In the 23° 43' Cancer rising chart for Iran, there is a very difficult transit of L8 Saturn setting in. > > The Ra/Ve period is running. > > Transit Saturn is now coming EXACTLY conjunct its natal placement at 14° 43' Leo H2, where it will aspect natal L1 Moon at 13° Taurus H11. > > During the week of 7-14 December, when sub-period lord L4 Venus is around 6°-15° Libra, it will come under some difficult aspects, including from both transit and natal Saturn. > > These transits suggest that the situation for Iran will become very difficult in coming few months. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > U.N. losing grip on Iran nuke plan > Story Highlights > The U.N.'s nuclear watchdog says it is losing touch on Iran's nuclear program > > Tehran continuing its enrichment activities in defiance of sanctions, it says > > Iranian nuclear negotiator says Tehran is being transparent > > Next Article in World » NEW YORK (CNN) -- The U.N.'s nuclear watchdog admitted Thursday it was no longer in touch with how Iran's nuclear program was developing, even as Tehran continues its enrichment activities in defiance of sanctions. > > Mohamed ElBaradei says Iran has cooperated in some areas but not others. > > A report from International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei, said that while Iran has cooperated in several areas -- by providing access to declared nuclear material, documents and facilities -- it is withholding in others. > " It should be noted that, since early 2006, the agency has not received the type of information that Iran had previously been providing, " the report said. > " As a result, the agency's knowledge about Iran's current nuclear program is diminishing. " > Iran's new nuclear negotiator, Dr. Saeed Jalili, disputed that statement in a news conference shortly after the report's release. > He said Tehran has been transparent in response to all requests from the IAEA, and said his country now wants the rights to which it is entitled regarding its nuclear program. > Jalili also warned that if the Security Council passes another resolution against Iran, future dealings would be in question. > Don't Miss > Iran charges 'nuclear traitor' > Gates: China urging Iran on nukes > " If a new resolution is passed -- it seems farfetched to me ... based on these transparent reports ... if the report is bypassed and ignored ... then it will affect our future cooperation, " he said. > The U.N. Security Council has already passed two rounds of sanctions against Tehran. U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., Zalmay Khalilzad, said Thursday Washington would like to see more " biting " restrictions passed against Iran, although China is showing reluctance for further measures. > The United States said the report shows Tehran's cooperation with the IAEA " remains selective and incomplete. " > " Iran has not met the world's expectation of full disclosure, " said a statement issued by the U.S. Mission to International Organizations in Vienna. > " Iran refused to implement the additional protocol and to provide early information on new nuclear facilities, " it said. > While the IAEA report agreed that Iran had been cooperative regarding answering questions about the history of its nuclear program -- and said the answers largely matched its own findings -- it said the agency will continue to pursue information about contamination issues and activities that could have military applications. > " Iran has provided sufficient access to individuals and has responded in a timely manner to questions and provided clarifications and amplifications on issues raised in the context of the work plan, " the report said. " However, its cooperation has been reactive rather than proactive. As previously stated, Iran's active cooperation and full transparency are indispensable for full and prompt implementation of the work plan. " > In Britain, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said it would study ElBaradei's report carefully and share its views at the IAEA Board of Governors meeting next week. > It also warned that if talks with EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana " do not show a positive outcome ... we will pursue further Security Council and EU sanctions. " > The talks with Solana and Iranian negotiators have not yet been scheduled, although Jalili said Thursday he had invited Solana to Iran for a meeting Friday. > Iran insists its nuclear program is necessary to provide civilian energy for the country, but the United States has voiced concern its true purpose is to produce nuclear weapons. > Iranian Energy Minister Parviz Fattah said Thursday at an inauguration for a development project that Tehran plans to produce nuclear energy " to supply its energy needs because gas and fuel would run out, " according to the state-run news agency IRNA. E-mail to a friend > > > ____________________ ______________ > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you > with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Dear friends, According to the enclosed news story, the war of words between the USA and Iran is escalating. The prediction concerning Iran related to the following transit contacts: > Transit Saturn is now coming EXACTLY conjunct its natal placement > at 14° 43' Leo H2, where it will aspect natal L1 Moon at 13° Taurus > H11. is therefore coming true. This indicates the chart we are using for Iran is authentic. Best wishes, Thor January 9, 2008 -- Updated 1720 GMT (0120 HKT) Bush calls Iran 'threat to world peace' Story Highlights * Bush says Iran remains " a threat to world peace " * Comments come days after high-seas encounter between U.S., Iranian vessels * National security adviser: Iranians " are fishing in troubled waters here " * Pentagon video shows Iranian boats racing back and forth near U.S. Navy convoy JERUSALEM (CNN) -- The war of words between United States and Tehran continued Wednesday, with President Bush repeating his assertion that Iran is " a threat to world peace. " The two countries have been trading accusations since a weekend confrontation involving Iranian boats and U.S. Navy warships in the Strait of Hormuz. The United States claims Iranian vessels deliberately sped toward its warships despite warnings to stay away. SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Just to add some background to this post. Let us recall that on > October 18 2007 " President Bush issued a stark warning on > Iran...suggesting that if the country obtained nuclear arms, it > could lead to " World War III. " > > Now the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) is reporting that > Iran is not cooperating about giving information about its 3000 > centrifuges. This is causing concerns by Russia and China about a > full break of Iran with the IAEA. Britain is calling for increase > pressure on the Iranian regime. Meanwhile it is reported that US > Generals are warning Bush that an attack on Iran would have > devastating repercussions in the region. > > In short, the situation is clearly heating up again, as the transits > in the chart for Itan clearly indicate. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > 1. > Decision time for US over Iran threat > UN nuclear report heightens tension > Julian Borger, diplomatic editor > Friday November 16, 2007 > The Guardian > > Iran has installed 3,000 centrifuges for enriching uranium - enough > to begin industrial-scale production of nuclear fuel and build a > warhead within a year, the UN's nuclear watchdog reported last night. > The report by Mohamed ElBaradei, director general of the > International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), will intensify US and > European pressure for tighter sanctions and increase speculation of a > potential military conflict. > > The installation of 3,000 fully-functioning centrifuges at Iran's > enrichment plant at Natanz is a " red line " drawn by the US across > which Washington had said it would not let Iran pass. When spinning > at full speed they are capable of producing sufficient weapons- grade > uranium (enriched to over 90% purity) for a nuclear weapon within a > year. > > The IAEA says the uranium being produced is only fuel grade (enriched > to 4%) but the confirmation that Iran has reached the 3,000 > centrifuge benchmark brings closer a moment of truth for the Bush > administration, when it will have to choose between taking military > action or abandoning its red line, and accepting Iran's technical > mastery of uranium enrichment. > US generals are reported to have warned the White House that military > action would trigger a devastating Iranian backlash in the Middle > East and beyond. > > Russian officials yesterday called for patience, insisting Iran could > still clinch a deal with the international community in the next few > weeks. They pointed to other parts of the IAEA report showing Tehran > had been cooperating with the agency's inspectors on other nuclear > issues. > > " We are most concerned to prevent Iran being cornered so that they > walk out of the Non Proliferation Treaty, and break relations with > the IAEA, " one Russian source said. He said Chinese officials were > stepping up diplomatic pressure on Iran, with Moscow, to avert a > collision. > > " They are on high alert that something has to be done quickly, " the > source said. > > The Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, also seized on positive > parts of the IAEA report, noting increased Iranian cooperation with > inspectors, as vindication for Tehran. He said: " The world will see > that the Iranian nation has been right and the resistance of our > nation has been correct. " > > Last night, a Foreign Office spokesman said: " If Iran wants to > restore trust in its programme it must come clean on all outstanding > issues without delay. " > > Gordon Brown has called for increased pressure on Tehran, including > an international ban on investment in the Iranian oil and gas > industry. But UK officials are nervous about pressure from the US > vice president Dick Cheney and other hawks for military action > against Iran before a new administration takes office in January > 2009. They emphasise that Iranian scientists could be months if not > years away from getting the 3,000 centrifuges to function properly, > at top speed, for a sustained period, and insist there is no imminent > pressure for military intervention. > > However, they also point out that Israel's red lines for military > action are unclear. > > Against the fraught backdrop, a meeting of senior officials from the > UN security council's five permanent members and Germany to decide on > sanctions, planned for Monday, was put off after the Chinese > delegation said it could not attend. > > The critical meeting has been pushed back to later this month, giving > time for the six-nation group's negotiator, Javier Solana, the EU > foreign policy chief, to hold last-ditch talks with Iranian officials. > > The ElBaradei report gave a mixed account of Iran's cooperation with > inspectors looking into Tehran's nuclear activity in the two decades > before it declared its enrichment programme. " Iran has provided > sufficient access to individuals and has responded in a timely manner > to questions, " it said, but added that " cooperation has been reactive > rather than proactive " . > > David Albright, a former UN inspector and now an independent nuclear > expert in Washington, said ElBaradei appeared to be trying to put " a > happy face " on a worsening situation. " The main issue is that Iran > now has 3,000 centrifuges, " he said. " The report doesn't even judge > the quality of the information being offered, but it's clear it is > giving minimal answers. " > http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2212071,00.html > > > 2. > Nuclear-Armed Iran Risks World War, Bush Says > Stephen Crowley/The New York Times > President Bush said at a news conference Wednesday that his tactics > were aimed at persuading the Iranians to find new leaders. > > By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG > Published: October 18, 2007 > WASHINGTON, Oct. 17 — President Bush issued a stark warning on Iran > on Wednesday, suggesting that if the country obtained nuclear arms, > it could lead to " World War III. " > > Putin Is Said to Offer Idea on Standoff Over Iran (October 18, > 2007) " We got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to > destroy Israel, " Mr. Bush said at a White House news conference, > referring to a remark by the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, > that Israel " will disappear soon. " Mr. Bush said he had " told people > that if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like > you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the > knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon. " > > Mr. Bush has said in the past that he would never " tolerate " a > nuclear-armed Iran. But the comment on Wednesday was another sign > that he did not accept a view stated last month by Gen. John P. > Abizaid, who retired this year as the top American commander in the > Middle East. The general said that " there are ways to live with a > nuclear Iran. " > > Mr. Bush sought in the news conference to make clear that his > pressure tactics, including economic sanctions, were aimed at > persuading the Iranian people to find new leadership. > > " The whole strategy is that, you know, at some point in time leaders > or responsible folks inside of Iran may get tired of isolation and > say, `This isn't worth it,' and to me it's worth the effort to keep > the pressure on this government, " Mr. Bush said. > > He added, " My intent is to continue to rally the world, to send a > focused signal to the Iranian government that we will continue to > work to isolate you in the hopes that at some point somebody else > shows up and says it's not worth the isolation. " > > The president was responding to a question about the Russian > president, Vladimir V. Putin, who visited Iran this week and warned > the United States against military action there. Before that, in > Moscow, Mr. Putin said he saw " no evidence " that Iran was trying to > acquire nuclear weapons. > > Mr. Bush insisted that he and Mr. Putin see eye to eye on the Iranian > nuclear threat. > > " We don't agree on a lot of issues, " Mr. Bush said. " We do agree on > some: Iran is one; nuclear proliferation is another. " > > The president made his remarks on a day when Mr. Putin appeared in > newspaper photographs standing side by side with Mr. Ahmadinejad. Mr. > Bush dismissed any notion that the pictures reflected like- > mindedness, saying, " Generally, leaders don't like to be photographed > scowling at each other. " > > Mr. Bush has never quite been able to ride out his oft-quoted remark > that he had looked into Mr. Putin's eyes and gotten " a sense of his > soul. " On Wednesday, he defended his brand of personal diplomacy, > even as he expressed a wariness about Mr. Putin's commitment to > democracy. > > Under Russia's Constitution, Mr. Putin is supposed to step down next > year, but he has indicated that he may try to keep his power by > becoming prime minister. At a recent meeting in Australia, Mr. Bush > said, he asked Mr. Putin about his plans. > > " I tried to, you know, get it out of him — who's going to be his > successor, what he intends to do, " Mr. Bush said. " And he was wily. > He wouldn't tip his hand. " > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/18/washington/18prexy.html > > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > In the 23° 43' Cancer rising chart for Iran, there is a very > difficult transit of L8 Saturn setting in. > > > > The Ra/Ve period is running. > > > > Transit Saturn is now coming EXACTLY conjunct its natal placement > at 14° 43' Leo H2, where it will aspect natal L1 Moon at 13° Taurus > H11. > > > > During the week of 7-14 December, when sub-period lord L4 Venus is > around 6°-15° Libra, it will come under some difficult aspects, > including from both transit and natal Saturn. > > > > These transits suggest that the situation for Iran will become very > difficult in coming few months. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > U.N. losing grip on Iran nuke plan > > Story Highlights > > The U.N.'s nuclear watchdog says it is losing touch on Iran's > nuclear program > > > > Tehran continuing its enrichment activities in defiance of > sanctions, it says > > > > Iranian nuclear negotiator says Tehran is being transparent > > > > Next Article in World » > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NEW YORK (CNN) -- The U.N.'s nuclear watchdog admitted Thursday it > was no longer in touch with how Iran's nuclear program was > developing, even as Tehran continues its enrichment activities in > defiance of sanctions. > > > > Mohamed ElBaradei says Iran has cooperated in some areas but not > others. > > > > A report from International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed > ElBaradei, said that while Iran has cooperated in several areas -- by > providing access to declared nuclear material, documents and > facilities -- it is withholding in others. > > " It should be noted that, since early 2006, the agency has not > received the type of information that Iran had previously been > providing, " the report said. > > " As a result, the agency's knowledge about Iran's current nuclear > program is diminishing. " > > Iran's new nuclear negotiator, Dr. Saeed Jalili, disputed that > statement in a news conference shortly after the report's release. > > He said Tehran has been transparent in response to all requests > from the IAEA, and said his country now wants the rights to which it > is entitled regarding its nuclear program. > > Jalili also warned that if the Security Council passes another > resolution against Iran, future dealings would be in question. > > Don't Miss > > Iran charges 'nuclear traitor' > > Gates: China urging Iran on nukes > > " If a new resolution is passed -- it seems farfetched to me ... > based on these transparent reports ... if the report is bypassed and > ignored ... then it will affect our future cooperation, " he said. > > The U.N. Security Council has already passed two rounds of > sanctions against Tehran. U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., Zalmay > Khalilzad, said Thursday Washington would like to see more " biting " > restrictions passed against Iran, although China is showing > reluctance for further measures. > > The United States said the report shows Tehran's cooperation with > the IAEA " remains selective and incomplete. " > > " Iran has not met the world's expectation of full disclosure, " said > a statement issued by the U.S. Mission to International Organizations > in Vienna. > > " Iran refused to implement the additional protocol and to provide > early information on new nuclear facilities, " it said. > > While the IAEA report agreed that Iran had been cooperative > regarding answering questions about the history of its nuclear > program -- and said the answers largely matched its own findings -- > it said the agency will continue to pursue information about > contamination issues and activities that could have military > applications. > > " Iran has provided sufficient access to individuals and has > responded in a timely manner to questions and provided clarifications > and amplifications on issues raised in the context of the work plan, " > the report said. " However, its cooperation has been reactive rather > than proactive. As previously stated, Iran's active cooperation and > full transparency are indispensable for full and prompt > implementation of the work plan. " > > In Britain, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said it would study > ElBaradei's report carefully and share its views at the IAEA Board of > Governors meeting next week. > > It also warned that if talks with EU foreign policy chief Javier > Solana " do not show a positive outcome ... we will pursue further > Security Council and EU sanctions. " > > The talks with Solana and Iranian negotiators have not yet been > scheduled, although Jalili said Thursday he had invited Solana to > Iran for a meeting Friday. > > Iran insists its nuclear program is necessary to provide civilian > energy for the country, but the United States has voiced concern its > true purpose is to produce nuclear weapons. > > Iranian Energy Minister Parviz Fattah said Thursday at an > inauguration for a development project that Tehran plans to produce > nuclear energy " to supply its energy needs because gas and fuel would > run out, " according to the state-run news agency IRNA. E-mail to a > friend > > > > > > > ____________________ > ______________ > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you > > with Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile./sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Dear Thor, It appears that the concerns continue through the first quarter of this year, considering the charts of both nations. The Ju-Sa aspect this month increases the difficulty. Another thought - the what-if-question about military confrontation, it appears to me that the USA has the stronger natal potential by a large margin. A further thought is that Iran is a misguided nation and will face severe challenges throughout its existence. This is evident by the affliction of all even houses, especially that of the Sun and Jupiter. If this chart is authentic, short life of the nation and catastrophic collapse cannot be outruled by Sa-Mo. Considering all, expect a rise in oil prices or at least buoyancy throughout January. 105-110 is plausible. Gold should also remain healthy. 925 is watched. Challenges in the US stock market continues, the Ve-5H MEP this week likely gives some relief, a short term top or top-ish area this month(?). Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:38 AM Re: Iran: difficult transit ahead Dear friends, According to the enclosed news story, the war of words between the USA and Iran is escalating. The prediction concerning Iran related to the following transit contacts: > Transit Saturn is now coming EXACTLY conjunct its natal placement > at 14° 43' Leo H2, where it will aspect natal L1 Moon at 13° Taurus > H11. is therefore coming true. This indicates the chart we are using for Iran is authentic. Best wishes, Thor January 9, 2008 -- Updated 1720 GMT (0120 HKT) Bush calls Iran 'threat to world peace' Story Highlights * Bush says Iran remains " a threat to world peace " * Comments come days after high-seas encounter between U.S., Iranian vessels * National security adviser: Iranians " are fishing in troubled waters here " * Pentagon video shows Iranian boats racing back and forth near U.S. Navy convoy JERUSALEM (CNN) -- The war of words between United States and Tehran continued Wednesday, with President Bush repeating his assertion that Iran is " a threat to world peace. " The two countries have been trading accusations since a weekend confrontation involving Iranian boats and U.S. Navy warships in the Strait of Hormuz. The United States claims Iranian vessels deliberately sped toward its warships despite warnings to stay away. SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Just to add some background to this post. Let us recall that on > October 18 2007 " President Bush issued a stark warning on > Iran...suggesting that if the country obtained nuclear arms, it > could lead to " World War III. " > > Now the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) is reporting that > Iran is not cooperating about giving information about its 3000 > centrifuges. This is causing concerns by Russia and China about a > full break of Iran with the IAEA. Britain is calling for increase > pressure on the Iranian regime. Meanwhile it is reported that US > Generals are warning Bush that an attack on Iran would have > devastating repercussions in the region. > > In short, the situation is clearly heating up again, as the transits > in the chart for Itan clearly indicate. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > 1. > Decision time for US over Iran threat > UN nuclear report heightens tension > Julian Borger, diplomatic editor > Friday November 16, 2007 > The Guardian > > Iran has installed 3,000 centrifuges for enriching uranium - enough > to begin industrial-scale production of nuclear fuel and build a > warhead within a year, the UN's nuclear watchdog reported last night. > The report by Mohamed ElBaradei, director general of the > International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), will intensify US and > European pressure for tighter sanctions and increase speculation of a > potential military conflict. > > The installation of 3,000 fully-functioning centrifuges at Iran's > enrichment plant at Natanz is a " red line " drawn by the US across > which Washington had said it would not let Iran pass. When spinning > at full speed they are capable of producing sufficient weapons- grade > uranium (enriched to over 90% purity) for a nuclear weapon within a > year. > > The IAEA says the uranium being produced is only fuel grade (enriched > to 4%) but the confirmation that Iran has reached the 3,000 > centrifuge benchmark brings closer a moment of truth for the Bush > administration, when it will have to choose between taking military > action or abandoning its red line, and accepting Iran's technical > mastery of uranium enrichment. > US generals are reported to have warned the White House that military > action would trigger a devastating Iranian backlash in the Middle > East and beyond. > > Russian officials yesterday called for patience, insisting Iran could > still clinch a deal with the international community in the next few > weeks. They pointed to other parts of the IAEA report showing Tehran > had been cooperating with the agency's inspectors on other nuclear > issues. > > " We are most concerned to prevent Iran being cornered so that they > walk out of the Non Proliferation Treaty, and break relations with > the IAEA, " one Russian source said. He said Chinese officials were > stepping up diplomatic pressure on Iran, with Moscow, to avert a > collision. > > " They are on high alert that something has to be done quickly, " the > source said. > > The Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, also seized on positive > parts of the IAEA report, noting increased Iranian cooperation with > inspectors, as vindication for Tehran. He said: " The world will see > that the Iranian nation has been right and the resistance of our > nation has been correct. " > > Last night, a Foreign Office spokesman said: " If Iran wants to > restore trust in its programme it must come clean on all outstanding > issues without delay. " > > Gordon Brown has called for increased pressure on Tehran, including > an international ban on investment in the Iranian oil and gas > industry. But UK officials are nervous about pressure from the US > vice president Dick Cheney and other hawks for military action > against Iran before a new administration takes office in January > 2009. They emphasise that Iranian scientists could be months if not > years away from getting the 3,000 centrifuges to function properly, > at top speed, for a sustained period, and insist there is no imminent > pressure for military intervention. > > However, they also point out that Israel's red lines for military > action are unclear. > > Against the fraught backdrop, a meeting of senior officials from the > UN security council's five permanent members and Germany to decide on > sanctions, planned for Monday, was put off after the Chinese > delegation said it could not attend. > > The critical meeting has been pushed back to later this month, giving > time for the six-nation group's negotiator, Javier Solana, the EU > foreign policy chief, to hold last-ditch talks with Iranian officials. > > The ElBaradei report gave a mixed account of Iran's cooperation with > inspectors looking into Tehran's nuclear activity in the two decades > before it declared its enrichment programme. " Iran has provided > sufficient access to individuals and has responded in a timely manner > to questions, " it said, but added that " cooperation has been reactive > rather than proactive " . > > David Albright, a former UN inspector and now an independent nuclear > expert in Washington, said ElBaradei appeared to be trying to put " a > happy face " on a worsening situation. " The main issue is that Iran > now has 3,000 centrifuges, " he said. " The report doesn't even judge > the quality of the information being offered, but it's clear it is > giving minimal answers. " > http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2212071,00.html > > > 2. > Nuclear-Armed Iran Risks World War, Bush Says > Stephen Crowley/The New York Times > President Bush said at a news conference Wednesday that his tactics > were aimed at persuading the Iranians to find new leaders. > > By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG > Published: October 18, 2007 > WASHINGTON, Oct. 17 - President Bush issued a stark warning on Iran > on Wednesday, suggesting that if the country obtained nuclear arms, > it could lead to " World War III. " > > Putin Is Said to Offer Idea on Standoff Over Iran (October 18, > 2007) " We got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to > destroy Israel, " Mr. Bush said at a White House news conference, > referring to a remark by the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, > that Israel " will disappear soon. " Mr. Bush said he had " told people > that if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like > you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the > knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon. " > > Mr. Bush has said in the past that he would never " tolerate " a > nuclear-armed Iran. But the comment on Wednesday was another sign > that he did not accept a view stated last month by Gen. John P. > Abizaid, who retired this year as the top American commander in the > Middle East. The general said that " there are ways to live with a > nuclear Iran. " > > Mr. Bush sought in the news conference to make clear that his > pressure tactics, including economic sanctions, were aimed at > persuading the Iranian people to find new leadership. > > " The whole strategy is that, you know, at some point in time leaders > or responsible folks inside of Iran may get tired of isolation and > say, `This isn't worth it,' and to me it's worth the effort to keep > the pressure on this government, " Mr. Bush said. > > He added, " My intent is to continue to rally the world, to send a > focused signal to the Iranian government that we will continue to > work to isolate you in the hopes that at some point somebody else > shows up and says it's not worth the isolation. " > > The president was responding to a question about the Russian > president, Vladimir V. Putin, who visited Iran this week and warned > the United States against military action there. Before that, in > Moscow, Mr. Putin said he saw " no evidence " that Iran was trying to > acquire nuclear weapons. > > Mr. Bush insisted that he and Mr. Putin see eye to eye on the Iranian > nuclear threat. > > " We don't agree on a lot of issues, " Mr. Bush said. " We do agree on > some: Iran is one; nuclear proliferation is another. " > > The president made his remarks on a day when Mr. Putin appeared in > newspaper photographs standing side by side with Mr. Ahmadinejad. Mr. > Bush dismissed any notion that the pictures reflected like- > mindedness, saying, " Generally, leaders don't like to be photographed > scowling at each other. " > > Mr. Bush has never quite been able to ride out his oft-quoted remark > that he had looked into Mr. Putin's eyes and gotten " a sense of his > soul. " On Wednesday, he defended his brand of personal diplomacy, > even as he expressed a wariness about Mr. Putin's commitment to > democracy. > > Under Russia's Constitution, Mr. Putin is supposed to step down next > year, but he has indicated that he may try to keep his power by > becoming prime minister. At a recent meeting in Australia, Mr. Bush > said, he asked Mr. Putin about his plans. > > " I tried to, you know, get it out of him - who's going to be his > successor, what he intends to do, " Mr. Bush said. " And he was wily. > He wouldn't tip his hand. " > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/18/washington/18prexy.html > > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > In the 23° 43' Cancer rising chart for Iran, there is a very > difficult transit of L8 Saturn setting in. > > > > The Ra/Ve period is running. > > > > Transit Saturn is now coming EXACTLY conjunct its natal placement > at 14° 43' Leo H2, where it will aspect natal L1 Moon at 13° Taurus > H11. > > > > During the week of 7-14 December, when sub-period lord L4 Venus is > around 6°-15° Libra, it will come under some difficult aspects, > including from both transit and natal Saturn. > > > > These transits suggest that the situation for Iran will become very > difficult in coming few months. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > U.N. losing grip on Iran nuke plan > > Story Highlights > > The U.N.'s nuclear watchdog says it is losing touch on Iran's > nuclear program > > > > Tehran continuing its enrichment activities in defiance of > sanctions, it says > > > > Iranian nuclear negotiator says Tehran is being transparent > > > > Next Article in World » > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NEW YORK (CNN) -- The U.N.'s nuclear watchdog admitted Thursday it > was no longer in touch with how Iran's nuclear program was > developing, even as Tehran continues its enrichment activities in > defiance of sanctions. > > > > Mohamed ElBaradei says Iran has cooperated in some areas but not > others. > > > > A report from International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed > ElBaradei, said that while Iran has cooperated in several areas -- by > providing access to declared nuclear material, documents and > facilities -- it is withholding in others. > > " It should be noted that, since early 2006, the agency has not > received the type of information that Iran had previously been > providing, " the report said. > > " As a result, the agency's knowledge about Iran's current nuclear > program is diminishing. " > > Iran's new nuclear negotiator, Dr. Saeed Jalili, disputed that > statement in a news conference shortly after the report's release. > > He said Tehran has been transparent in response to all requests > from the IAEA, and said his country now wants the rights to which it > is entitled regarding its nuclear program. > > Jalili also warned that if the Security Council passes another > resolution against Iran, future dealings would be in question. > > Don't Miss > > Iran charges 'nuclear traitor' > > Gates: China urging Iran on nukes > > " If a new resolution is passed -- it seems farfetched to me ... > based on these transparent reports ... if the report is bypassed and > ignored ... then it will affect our future cooperation, " he said. > > The U.N. Security Council has already passed two rounds of > sanctions against Tehran. U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., Zalmay > Khalilzad, said Thursday Washington would like to see more " biting " > restrictions passed against Iran, although China is showing > reluctance for further measures. > > The United States said the report shows Tehran's cooperation with > the IAEA " remains selective and incomplete. " > > " Iran has not met the world's expectation of full disclosure, " said > a statement issued by the U.S. Mission to International Organizations > in Vienna. > > " Iran refused to implement the additional protocol and to provide > early information on new nuclear facilities, " it said. > > While the IAEA report agreed that Iran had been cooperative > regarding answering questions about the history of its nuclear > program -- and said the answers largely matched its own findings -- > it said the agency will continue to pursue information about > contamination issues and activities that could have military > applications. > > " Iran has provided sufficient access to individuals and has > responded in a timely manner to questions and provided clarifications > and amplifications on issues raised in the context of the work plan, " > the report said. " However, its cooperation has been reactive rather > than proactive. As previously stated, Iran's active cooperation and > full transparency are indispensable for full and prompt > implementation of the work plan. " > > In Britain, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said it would study > ElBaradei's report carefully and share its views at the IAEA Board of > Governors meeting next week. > > It also warned that if talks with EU foreign policy chief Javier > Solana " do not show a positive outcome ... we will pursue further > Security Council and EU sanctions. " > > The talks with Solana and Iranian negotiators have not yet been > scheduled, although Jalili said Thursday he had invited Solana to > Iran for a meeting Friday. > > Iran insists its nuclear program is necessary to provide civilian > energy for the country, but the United States has voiced concern its > true purpose is to produce nuclear weapons. > > Iranian Energy Minister Parviz Fattah said Thursday at an > inauguration for a development project that Tehran plans to produce > nuclear energy " to supply its energy needs because gas and fuel would > run out, " according to the state-run news agency IRNA. E-mail to a > friend > > > > > > > ____________________ > ______________ > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you > > with Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile./sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 My dear Vyas, Thank you for the thoughtful observations and your assessment of the influence of additional transit events to those has recently warned about. I agree with you that it is likely the stock market will see a moderate improvement in coming days but that things overall would remain challenging. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Dear Thor, > > It appears that the concerns continue through the first quarter of this > year, considering the charts of both nations. The Ju-Sa aspect this month > increases the difficulty. > > Another thought - the what-if-question about military confrontation, it > appears to me that the USA has the stronger natal potential by a large > margin. > > A further thought is that Iran is a misguided nation and will face severe > challenges throughout its existence. This is evident by the affliction of > all even houses, especially that of the Sun and Jupiter. If this chart is > authentic, short life of the nation and catastrophic collapse cannot be > outruled by Sa-Mo. > > Considering all, expect a rise in oil prices or at least buoyancy throughout > January. 105-110 is plausible. Gold should also remain healthy. 925 is > watched. Challenges in the US stock market continues, the Ve-5H MEP this > week likely gives some relief, a short term top or top-ish area this > month(?). > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " cosmologer " <cosmologer > <SAMVA > > Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:38 AM > Re: Iran: difficult transit ahead > > > Dear friends, > > According to the enclosed news story, the war of words between the > USA and Iran is escalating. The prediction concerning Iran related to > the following transit contacts: > > > Transit Saturn is now coming EXACTLY conjunct its natal placement > > at 14° 43' Leo H2, where it will aspect natal L1 Moon at 13° Taurus > > H11. > > is therefore coming true. > > This indicates the chart we are using for Iran is authentic. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > January 9, 2008 -- Updated 1720 GMT (0120 HKT) > Bush calls Iran 'threat to world peace' > > Story Highlights > * Bush says Iran remains " a threat to world peace " > * Comments come days after high-seas encounter between U.S., Iranian > vessels > * National security adviser: Iranians " are fishing in troubled waters > here " > * Pentagon video shows Iranian boats racing back and forth near U.S. > Navy convoy > JERUSALEM (CNN) -- The war of words between United States and Tehran > continued Wednesday, with President Bush repeating his assertion that > Iran is " a threat to world peace. " The two countries have been > trading accusations since a weekend confrontation involving Iranian > boats and U.S. Navy warships in the Strait of Hormuz. The United > States claims Iranian vessels deliberately sped toward its warships > despite warnings to stay away. > > SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Just to add some background to this post. Let us recall that on > > October 18 2007 " President Bush issued a stark warning on > > Iran...suggesting that if the country obtained nuclear arms, it > > could lead to " World War III. " > > > > Now the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) is reporting that > > Iran is not cooperating about giving information about its 3000 > > centrifuges. This is causing concerns by Russia and China about a > > full break of Iran with the IAEA. Britain is calling for increase > > pressure on the Iranian regime. Meanwhile it is reported that US > > Generals are warning Bush that an attack on Iran would have > > devastating repercussions in the region. > > > > In short, the situation is clearly heating up again, as the > transits > > in the chart for Itan clearly indicate. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > 1. > > Decision time for US over Iran threat > > UN nuclear report heightens tension > > Julian Borger, diplomatic editor > > Friday November 16, 2007 > > The Guardian > > > > Iran has installed 3,000 centrifuges for enriching uranium - enough > > to begin industrial-scale production of nuclear fuel and build a > > warhead within a year, the UN's nuclear watchdog reported last > night. > > The report by Mohamed ElBaradei, director general of the > > International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), will intensify US and > > European pressure for tighter sanctions and increase speculation of > a > > potential military conflict. > > > > The installation of 3,000 fully-functioning centrifuges at Iran's > > enrichment plant at Natanz is a " red line " drawn by the US across > > which Washington had said it would not let Iran pass. When spinning > > at full speed they are capable of producing sufficient weapons- > grade > > uranium (enriched to over 90% purity) for a nuclear weapon within a > > year. > > > > The IAEA says the uranium being produced is only fuel grade > (enriched > > to 4%) but the confirmation that Iran has reached the 3,000 > > centrifuge benchmark brings closer a moment of truth for the Bush > > administration, when it will have to choose between taking military > > action or abandoning its red line, and accepting Iran's technical > > mastery of uranium enrichment. > > US generals are reported to have warned the White House that > military > > action would trigger a devastating Iranian backlash in the Middle > > East and beyond. > > > > Russian officials yesterday called for patience, insisting Iran > could > > still clinch a deal with the international community in the next > few > > weeks. They pointed to other parts of the IAEA report showing > Tehran > > had been cooperating with the agency's inspectors on other nuclear > > issues. > > > > " We are most concerned to prevent Iran being cornered so that they > > walk out of the Non Proliferation Treaty, and break relations with > > the IAEA, " one Russian source said. He said Chinese officials were > > stepping up diplomatic pressure on Iran, with Moscow, to avert a > > collision. > > > > " They are on high alert that something has to be done quickly, " the > > source said. > > > > The Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, also seized on positive > > parts of the IAEA report, noting increased Iranian cooperation with > > inspectors, as vindication for Tehran. He said: " The world will see > > that the Iranian nation has been right and the resistance of our > > nation has been correct. " > > > > Last night, a Foreign Office spokesman said: " If Iran wants to > > restore trust in its programme it must come clean on all > outstanding > > issues without delay. " > > > > Gordon Brown has called for increased pressure on Tehran, including > > an international ban on investment in the Iranian oil and gas > > industry. But UK officials are nervous about pressure from the US > > vice president Dick Cheney and other hawks for military action > > against Iran before a new administration takes office in January > > 2009. They emphasise that Iranian scientists could be months if not > > years away from getting the 3,000 centrifuges to function properly, > > at top speed, for a sustained period, and insist there is no > imminent > > pressure for military intervention. > > > > However, they also point out that Israel's red lines for military > > action are unclear. > > > > Against the fraught backdrop, a meeting of senior officials from > the > > UN security council's five permanent members and Germany to decide > on > > sanctions, planned for Monday, was put off after the Chinese > > delegation said it could not attend. > > > > The critical meeting has been pushed back to later this month, > giving > > time for the six-nation group's negotiator, Javier Solana, the EU > > foreign policy chief, to hold last-ditch talks with Iranian > officials. > > > > The ElBaradei report gave a mixed account of Iran's cooperation > with > > inspectors looking into Tehran's nuclear activity in the two > decades > > before it declared its enrichment programme. " Iran has provided > > sufficient access to individuals and has responded in a timely > manner > > to questions, " it said, but added that " cooperation has been > reactive > > rather than proactive " . > > > > David Albright, a former UN inspector and now an independent > nuclear > > expert in Washington, said ElBaradei appeared to be trying to > put " a > > happy face " on a worsening situation. " The main issue is that Iran > > now has 3,000 centrifuges, " he said. " The report doesn't even judge > > the quality of the information being offered, but it's clear it is > > giving minimal answers. " > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2212071,00.html > > > > > > 2. > > Nuclear-Armed Iran Risks World War, Bush Says > > Stephen Crowley/The New York Times > > President Bush said at a news conference Wednesday that his tactics > > were aimed at persuading the Iranians to find new leaders. > > > > By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG > > Published: October 18, 2007 > > WASHINGTON, Oct. 17 - President Bush issued a stark warning on Iran > > on Wednesday, suggesting that if the country obtained nuclear arms, > > it could lead to " World War III. " > > > > Putin Is Said to Offer Idea on Standoff Over Iran (October 18, > > 2007) " We got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to > > destroy Israel, " Mr. Bush said at a White House news conference, > > referring to a remark by the Iranian president, Mahmoud > Ahmadinejad, > > that Israel " will disappear soon. " Mr. Bush said he had " told > people > > that if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like > > you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the > > knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon. " > > > > Mr. Bush has said in the past that he would never " tolerate " a > > nuclear-armed Iran. But the comment on Wednesday was another sign > > that he did not accept a view stated last month by Gen. John P. > > Abizaid, who retired this year as the top American commander in the > > Middle East. The general said that " there are ways to live with a > > nuclear Iran. " > > > > Mr. Bush sought in the news conference to make clear that his > > pressure tactics, including economic sanctions, were aimed at > > persuading the Iranian people to find new leadership. > > > > " The whole strategy is that, you know, at some point in time > leaders > > or responsible folks inside of Iran may get tired of isolation and > > say, `This isn't worth it,' and to me it's worth the effort to keep > > the pressure on this government, " Mr. Bush said. > > > > He added, " My intent is to continue to rally the world, to send a > > focused signal to the Iranian government that we will continue to > > work to isolate you in the hopes that at some point somebody else > > shows up and says it's not worth the isolation. " > > > > The president was responding to a question about the Russian > > president, Vladimir V. Putin, who visited Iran this week and warned > > the United States against military action there. Before that, in > > Moscow, Mr. Putin said he saw " no evidence " that Iran was trying to > > acquire nuclear weapons. > > > > Mr. Bush insisted that he and Mr. Putin see eye to eye on the > Iranian > > nuclear threat. > > > > " We don't agree on a lot of issues, " Mr. Bush said. " We do agree on > > some: Iran is one; nuclear proliferation is another. " > > > > The president made his remarks on a day when Mr. Putin appeared in > > newspaper photographs standing side by side with Mr. Ahmadinejad. > Mr. > > Bush dismissed any notion that the pictures reflected like- > > mindedness, saying, " Generally, leaders don't like to be > photographed > > scowling at each other. " > > > > Mr. Bush has never quite been able to ride out his oft-quoted > remark > > that he had looked into Mr. Putin's eyes and gotten " a sense of his > > soul. " On Wednesday, he defended his brand of personal diplomacy, > > even as he expressed a wariness about Mr. Putin's commitment to > > democracy. > > > > Under Russia's Constitution, Mr. Putin is supposed to step down > next > > year, but he has indicated that he may try to keep his power by > > becoming prime minister. At a recent meeting in Australia, Mr. Bush > > said, he asked Mr. Putin about his plans. > > > > " I tried to, you know, get it out of him - who's going to be his > > successor, what he intends to do, " Mr. Bush said. " And he was wily. > > He wouldn't tip his hand. " > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/18/washington/18prexy.html > > > > > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > In the 23° 43' Cancer rising chart for Iran, there is a very > > difficult transit of L8 Saturn setting in. > > > > > > The Ra/Ve period is running. > > > > > > Transit Saturn is now coming EXACTLY conjunct its natal placement > > at 14° 43' Leo H2, where it will aspect natal L1 Moon at 13° Taurus > > H11. > > > > > > During the week of 7-14 December, when sub-period lord L4 Venus > is > > around 6°-15° Libra, it will come under some difficult aspects, > > including from both transit and natal Saturn. > > > > > > These transits suggest that the situation for Iran will become > very > > difficult in coming few months. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > U.N. losing grip on Iran nuke plan > > > Story Highlights > > > The U.N.'s nuclear watchdog says it is losing touch on Iran's > > nuclear program > > > > > > Tehran continuing its enrichment activities in defiance of > > sanctions, it says > > > > > > Iranian nuclear negotiator says Tehran is being transparent > > > > > > Next Article in World » > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NEW YORK (CNN) -- The U.N.'s nuclear watchdog admitted Thursday > it > > was no longer in touch with how Iran's nuclear program was > > developing, even as Tehran continues its enrichment activities in > > defiance of sanctions. > > > > > > Mohamed ElBaradei says Iran has cooperated in some areas but not > > others. > > > > > > A report from International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed > > ElBaradei, said that while Iran has cooperated in several areas -- > by > > providing access to declared nuclear material, documents and > > facilities -- it is withholding in others. > > > " It should be noted that, since early 2006, the agency has not > > received the type of information that Iran had previously been > > providing, " the report said. > > > " As a result, the agency's knowledge about Iran's current nuclear > > program is diminishing. " > > > Iran's new nuclear negotiator, Dr. Saeed Jalili, disputed that > > statement in a news conference shortly after the report's release. > > > He said Tehran has been transparent in response to all requests > > from the IAEA, and said his country now wants the rights to which > it > > is entitled regarding its nuclear program. > > > Jalili also warned that if the Security Council passes another > > resolution against Iran, future dealings would be in question. > > > Don't Miss > > > Iran charges 'nuclear traitor' > > > Gates: China urging Iran on nukes > > > " If a new resolution is passed -- it seems farfetched to me ... > > based on these transparent reports ... if the report is bypassed > and > > ignored ... then it will affect our future cooperation, " he said. > > > The U.N. Security Council has already passed two rounds of > > sanctions against Tehran. U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., Zalmay > > Khalilzad, said Thursday Washington would like to see more " biting " > > restrictions passed against Iran, although China is showing > > reluctance for further measures. > > > The United States said the report shows Tehran's cooperation with > > the IAEA " remains selective and incomplete. " > > > " Iran has not met the world's expectation of full disclosure, " > said > > a statement issued by the U.S. Mission to International > Organizations > > in Vienna. > > > " Iran refused to implement the additional protocol and to provide > > early information on new nuclear facilities, " it said. > > > While the IAEA report agreed that Iran had been cooperative > > regarding answering questions about the history of its nuclear > > program -- and said the answers largely matched its own findings - - > > it said the agency will continue to pursue information about > > contamination issues and activities that could have military > > applications. > > > " Iran has provided sufficient access to individuals and has > > responded in a timely manner to questions and provided > clarifications > > and amplifications on issues raised in the context of the work > plan, " > > the report said. " However, its cooperation has been reactive rather > > than proactive. As previously stated, Iran's active cooperation and > > full transparency are indispensable for full and prompt > > implementation of the work plan. " > > > In Britain, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said it would > study > > ElBaradei's report carefully and share its views at the IAEA Board > of > > Governors meeting next week. > > > It also warned that if talks with EU foreign policy chief Javier > > Solana " do not show a positive outcome ... we will pursue further > > Security Council and EU sanctions. " > > > The talks with Solana and Iranian negotiators have not yet been > > scheduled, although Jalili said Thursday he had invited Solana to > > Iran for a meeting Friday. > > > Iran insists its nuclear program is necessary to provide civilian > > energy for the country, but the United States has voiced concern > its > > true purpose is to produce nuclear weapons. > > > Iranian Energy Minister Parviz Fattah said Thursday at an > > inauguration for a development project that Tehran plans to produce > > nuclear energy " to supply its energy needs because gas and fuel > would > > run out, " according to the state-run news agency IRNA. E-mail to a > > friend > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > ______________ > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you > > > with Mobile. Try it now. > > http://mobile./sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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