Guest guest Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Dear friends, After watching the movie "Bobby" (written and produced by Emilio Estevez) tonight, about the events surrounding the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, I decided to examine, again, the astrological configuration in the SAMVA USA chart for this significant event in the history of the country. I am sure if you go through the facts, you, too, will be startled by the accuracy of the chart in capturing this event in terms of the period and transit combination. This event comes out just as accurately as the assassination of his older brother, President Jack Kennedy, five years earlier. The similarities are really astounding. Significant event - assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy: On 5th June 1968, 12.15am, Senator Robert F Kennedy was making his way from the ballroom at the Ambassador Hotel, Los Angeles, to give a press conference, after winning the California Primary. The prearranged route went through a food service pantry. While making his way through this area, a Palastinian Arab, Sirhan Sirhan, stepped forward and fired a .22 revolver at the Senator. Although Sirhan was quickly subdued, Kennedy and five others were wounded, although only Kennedy was fatally wounded. When Bobby Kennedy was killed it was like the assassination of his older brother five years earlier. It was as like a ray of hope had been extinguished. Astrological configuration: The Saturn-Rahu period was operating. Sub-period lord transit Rahu had been stationary at 25° Pisces H9 for some months from where it closely afflicted the major period lord L8 Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5. This transit explains well the enormous turmoil in the country that summer, which saw Martin Luther King assassination on April 4 and artist Andy Warhol shot on June 4. Riots had taken place in most major cities. While transit Rahu had begun to move again and was at 23° 32' Pisces H9 on the night of the assisation, it was still aspecting natal L8 Saturn. However, what is more astounding is that transit Ketu at 23° 32' Virgo H3 was EXACTLY afflicting natal L2 Sun at 23° 44' Capricorn H7 and transit Sun at 21° 18' Taurus H11. While Kennedy was celebrating having won the important primary election in California on that day to become the candidate of the Democratic party for the Office of the President of the USA, a suddent violent act stopped all that. As if these aspects were not enough, transit L10 Mars was at 25° 49' Taurus H11 on the night of the assassination, where it was EXACTLY afflicted by natal L8 Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5 and transit Saturn at 28° 59' Pisces. A young man in his prime was killed. In short, the aspects were very bad on that fateful night. Comparison with other significant event - the assassination of President John F Kennedy: By comparison, President John F Kennedy was assassinated during the Saturn - Sun period, when transit L8 Saturn was EXACTLY conjunt natal L2 Sun at 23° 44' Capricorn H7. At the same time, transit L10 Mars at 27° 08' Scorpio H5 was EXACTLY conjunct natal L8 Saturn! This is really compelling evidence that the SAMVA USA chart is the authentic chart for this country. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAMVA_USA_chart Best wishes, Thor Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Dear Thor…. Thanks for your work on this. It is always great to see your work in progress. David Hawthorne SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Cosmologer Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:45 PM samva SAMVA USA chart: the assassination of Robert F Kennedy Dear friends, After watching the movie " Bobby " (written and produced by Emilio Estevez) tonight, about the events surrounding the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, I decided to examine, again, the astrological configuration in the SAMVA USA chart for this significant event in the history of the country. I am sure if you go through the facts, you, too, will be startled by the accuracy of the chart in capturing this event in terms of the period and transit combination. This event comes out just as accurately as the assassination of his older brother, President Jack Kennedy, five years earlier. The similarities are really astounding. Significant event - assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy: On 5th June 1968, 12.15am, Senator Robert F Kennedy was making his way from the ballroom at the Ambassador Hotel, Los Angeles, to give a press conference, after winning the California Primary. The prearranged route went through a food service pantry. While making his way through this area, a Palastinian Arab, Sirhan Sirhan, stepped forward and fired a .22 revolver at the Senator. Although Sirhan was quickly subdued, Kennedy and five others were wounded, although only Kennedy was fatally wounded. When Bobby Kennedy was killed it was like the assassination of his older brother five years earlier. It was as like a ray of hope had been extinguished. Astrological configuration: The Saturn-Rahu period was operating. Sub-period lord transit Rahu had been stationary at 25° Pisces H9 for some months from where it closely afflicted the major period lord L8 Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5. This transit explains well the enormous turmoil in the country that summer, which saw Martin Luther King assassination on April 4 and artist Andy Warhol shot on June 4. Riots had taken place in most major cities. While transit Rahu had begun to move again and was at 23° 32' Pisces H9 on the night of the assisation, it was still aspecting natal L8 Saturn. However, what is more astounding is that transit Ketu at 23° 32' Virgo H3 was EXACTLY afflicting natal L2 Sun at 23° 44' Capricorn H7 and transit Sun at 21° 18' Taurus H11. While Kennedy was celebrating having won the important primary election in California on that day to become the candidate of the Democratic party for the Office of the President of the USA, a suddent violent act stopped all that. As if these aspects were not enough, transit L10 Mars was at 25° 49' Taurus H11 on the night of the assassination, where it was EXACTLY afflicted by natal L8 Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5 and transit Saturn at 28° 59' Pisces. A young man in his prime was killed. In short, the aspects were very bad on that fateful night. Comparison with other significant event - the assassination of President John F Kennedy: By comparison, President John F Kennedy was assassinated during the Saturn - Sun period, when transit L8 Saturn was EXACTLY conjunt natal L2 Sun at 23° 44' Capricorn H7. At the same time, transit L10 Mars at 27° 08' Scorpio H5 was EXACTLY conjunct natal L8 Saturn! This is really compelling evidence that the SAMVA USA chart is the authentic chart for this country. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAMVA_USA_chart Best wishes, Thor Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Dear David, Thanks for the kinds words regarding the ongoing work. I think we are making great progress with the SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david wrote: > > Dear Thor…. > > Thanks for your work on this. > > It is always great to see your work in progress. > > David Hawthorne > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of > Cosmologer > Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:45 PM > samva > SAMVA USA chart: the assassination of Robert F Kennedy > > Dear friends, > > After watching the movie " Bobby " (written and produced by Emilio Estevez) > tonight, about the events surrounding the assassination of Robert F. > Kennedy, I decided to examine, again, the astrological configuration in the > SAMVA USA chart for this significant event in the history of the country. I > am sure if you go through the facts, you, too, will be startled by the > accuracy of the chart in capturing this event in terms of the period and > transit combination. This event comes out just as accurately as the > assassination of his older brother, President Jack Kennedy, five years > earlier. The similarities are really astounding. > > Significant event - assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy: > On 5th June 1968, 12.15am, Senator Robert F Kennedy was making his way from > the ballroom at the Ambassador Hotel, Los Angeles, to give a press > conference, after winning the California Primary. The prearranged route went > through a food service pantry. While making his way through this area, a > Palastinian Arab, Sirhan Sirhan, stepped forward and fired a .22 revolver at > the Senator. Although Sirhan was quickly subdued, Kennedy and five others > were wounded, although only Kennedy was fatally wounded. When Bobby Kennedy > was killed it was like the assassination of his older brother five years > earlier. It was as like a ray of hope had been extinguished. > > Astrological configuration: > The Saturn-Rahu period was operating. Sub-period lord transit Rahu had been > stationary at 25° Pisces H9 for some months from where it closely afflicted > the major period lord L8 Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5. This transit explains > well the enormous turmoil in the country that summer, which saw Martin > Luther King assassination on April 4 and artist Andy Warhol shot on June 4. > Riots had taken place in most major cities. While transit Rahu had begun to > move again and was at 23° 32' Pisces H9 on the night of the assisation, it > was still aspecting natal L8 Saturn. However, what is more astounding is > that transit Ketu at 23° 32' Virgo H3 was EXACTLY afflicting natal L2 Sun at > 23° 44' Capricorn H7 and transit Sun at 21° 18' Taurus H11. While Kennedy > was celebrating having won the important primary election in California on > that day to become the candidate of the Democratic party for the Office of > the President of the USA, a suddent violent act stopped all that. As if > these aspects were not enough, transit L10 Mars was at 25° 49' Taurus H11 on > the night of the assassination, where it was EXACTLY afflicted by natal L8 > Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5 and transit Saturn at 28° 59' Pisces. A young > man in his prime was killed. In short, the aspects were very bad on that > fateful night. > > Comparison with other significant event - the assassination of President > John F Kennedy: > By comparison, President John F Kennedy was assassinated during the Saturn - > Sun period, when transit L8 Saturn was EXACTLY conjunt natal L2 Sun at 23° > 44' Capricorn H7. At the same time, transit L10 Mars at 27° 08' Scorpio H5 > was EXACTLY conjunct natal L8 Saturn! > > This is really compelling evidence that the SAMVA USA chart is the authentic > chart for this country. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAMVA_USA_chart > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > _____ > > Never miss a thing. Make > <http://us.rd./evt=51438/*http:/www./r/hs> your homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Dear Thor: I am really impressed with your work and perseverance. The chart holds up very well whenever I review it and transit events. Well done... David Hawthorne 508 N. Second St., Fairfield, IA 52556 Tel: 641-472-3799 SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of cosmologer Friday, November 30, 2007 1:54 AM SAMVA Re: SAMVA USA chart: the assassination of Robert F Kennedy Dear David, Thanks for the kinds words regarding the ongoing work. I think we are making great progress with the SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david wrote: > > Dear Thor…. > > Thanks for your work on this. > > It is always great to see your work in progress. > > David Hawthorne > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of > Cosmologer > Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:45 PM > samva > SAMVA USA chart: the assassination of Robert F Kennedy > > Dear friends, > > After watching the movie " Bobby " (written and produced by Emilio Estevez) > tonight, about the events surrounding the assassination of Robert F. > Kennedy, I decided to examine, again, the astrological configuration in the > SAMVA USA chart for this significant event in the history of the country. I > am sure if you go through the facts, you, too, will be startled by the > accuracy of the chart in capturing this event in terms of the period and > transit combination. This event comes out just as accurately as the > assassination of his older brother, President Jack Kennedy, five years > earlier. The similarities are really astounding. > > Significant event - assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy: > On 5th June 1968, 12.15am, Senator Robert F Kennedy was making his way from > the ballroom at the Ambassador Hotel, Los Angeles, to give a press > conference, after winning the California Primary. The prearranged route went > through a food service pantry. While making his way through this area, a > Palastinian Arab, Sirhan Sirhan, stepped forward and fired a .22 revolver at > the Senator. Although Sirhan was quickly subdued, Kennedy and five others > were wounded, although only Kennedy was fatally wounded. When Bobby Kennedy > was killed it was like the assassination of his older brother five years > earlier. It was as like a ray of hope had been extinguished. > > Astrological configuration: > The Saturn-Rahu period was operating. Sub-period lord transit Rahu had been > stationary at 25° Pisces H9 for some months from where it closely afflicted > the major period lord L8 Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5. This transit explains > well the enormous turmoil in the country that summer, which saw Martin > Luther King assassination on April 4 and artist Andy Warhol shot on June 4. > Riots had taken place in most major cities. While transit Rahu had begun to > move again and was at 23° 32' Pisces H9 on the night of the assisation, it > was still aspecting natal L8 Saturn. However, what is more astounding is > that transit Ketu at 23° 32' Virgo H3 was EXACTLY afflicting natal L2 Sun at > 23° 44' Capricorn H7 and transit Sun at 21° 18' Taurus H11. While Kennedy > was celebrating having won the important primary election in California on > that day to become the candidate of the Democratic party for the Office of > the President of the USA, a suddent violent act stopped all that. As if > these aspects were not enough, transit L10 Mars was at 25° 49' Taurus H11 on > the night of the assassination, where it was EXACTLY afflicted by natal L8 > Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5 and transit Saturn at 28° 59' Pisces. A young > man in his prime was killed. In short, the aspects were very bad on that > fateful night. > > Comparison with other significant event - the assassination of President > John F Kennedy: > By comparison, President John F Kennedy was assassinated during the Saturn - > Sun period, when transit L8 Saturn was EXACTLY conjunt natal L2 Sun at 23° > 44' Capricorn H7. At the same time, transit L10 Mars at 27° 08' Scorpio H5 > was EXACTLY conjunct natal L8 Saturn! > > This is really compelling evidence that the SAMVA USA chart is the authentic > chart for this country. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAMVA_USA_chart > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > _____ > > Never miss a thing. Make > <http://us.rd./evt=51438/*http:/www./r/hs> your homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Dear David, Indeed, an authentic mundane chart for the USA has been long sought on the SAMVA list. With the help of John TWB and we have long last discovered the SAMVA USA chart. It is also especially helpful to know that someone of your caliber as an SA astrologer is finding additional evidence to confirm its merits. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david wrote: > > Dear Thor: > > I am really impressed with your work and perseverance. > > The chart holds up very well whenever I review it and transit events. > > Well done... > > > David Hawthorne > 508 N. Second St., Fairfield, IA 52556 > Tel: 641-472-3799 > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of > cosmologer > Friday, November 30, 2007 1:54 AM > SAMVA > Re: SAMVA USA chart: the assassination of Robert F Kennedy > > Dear David, > > Thanks for the kinds words regarding the ongoing work. I think we are > making great progress with the SAMVA USA chart. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david@> wrote: > > > > Dear Thor…. > > > > Thanks for your work on this. > > > > It is always great to see your work in progress. > > > > David Hawthorne > > > > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On > Behalf Of > > Cosmologer > > Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:45 PM > > samva > > SAMVA USA chart: the assassination of Robert F > Kennedy > > > > Dear friends, > > > > After watching the movie " Bobby " (written and produced by Emilio > Estevez) > > tonight, about the events surrounding the assassination of Robert F. > > Kennedy, I decided to examine, again, the astrological > configuration in the > > SAMVA USA chart for this significant event in the history of the > country. I > > am sure if you go through the facts, you, too, will be startled by > the > > accuracy of the chart in capturing this event in terms of the > period and > > transit combination. This event comes out just as accurately as the > > assassination of his older brother, President Jack Kennedy, five > years > > earlier. The similarities are really astounding. > > > > Significant event - assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy: > > On 5th June 1968, 12.15am, Senator Robert F Kennedy was making his > way from > > the ballroom at the Ambassador Hotel, Los Angeles, to give a press > > conference, after winning the California Primary. The prearranged > route went > > through a food service pantry. While making his way through this > area, a > > Palastinian Arab, Sirhan Sirhan, stepped forward and fired a .22 > revolver at > > the Senator. Although Sirhan was quickly subdued, Kennedy and five > others > > were wounded, although only Kennedy was fatally wounded. When Bobby > Kennedy > > was killed it was like the assassination of his older brother five > years > > earlier. It was as like a ray of hope had been extinguished. > > > > Astrological configuration: > > The Saturn-Rahu period was operating. Sub-period lord transit Rahu > had been > > stationary at 25° Pisces H9 for some months from where it closely > afflicted > > the major period lord L8 Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5. This transit > explains > > well the enormous turmoil in the country that summer, which saw > Martin > > Luther King assassination on April 4 and artist Andy Warhol shot on > June 4. > > Riots had taken place in most major cities. While transit Rahu had > begun to > > move again and was at 23° 32' Pisces H9 on the night of the > assisation, it > > was still aspecting natal L8 Saturn. However, what is more > astounding is > > that transit Ketu at 23° 32' Virgo H3 was EXACTLY afflicting natal > L2 Sun at > > 23° 44' Capricorn H7 and transit Sun at 21° 18' Taurus H11. While > Kennedy > > was celebrating having won the important primary election in > California on > > that day to become the candidate of the Democratic party for the > Office of > > the President of the USA, a suddent violent act stopped all that. > As if > > these aspects were not enough, transit L10 Mars was at 25° 49' > Taurus H11 on > > the night of the assassination, where it was EXACTLY afflicted by > natal L8 > > Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio H5 and transit Saturn at 28° 59' Pisces. > A young > > man in his prime was killed. In short, the aspects were very bad on > that > > fateful night. > > > > Comparison with other significant event - the assassination of > President > > John F Kennedy: > > By comparison, President John F Kennedy was assassinated during the > Saturn - > > Sun period, when transit L8 Saturn was EXACTLY conjunt natal L2 Sun > at 23° > > 44' Capricorn H7. At the same time, transit L10 Mars at 27° 08' > Scorpio H5 > > was EXACTLY conjunct natal L8 Saturn! > > > > This is really compelling evidence that the SAMVA USA chart is the > authentic > > chart for this country. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAMVA_USA_chart > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > _____ > > > > Never miss a thing. Make > > <http://us.rd./evt=51438/*http:/www./r/hs> your > homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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