Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Dear friends Recently, gave us the following rule for Dictatorship. RULE FOR DICTATORSHIP In the mundane chart look for as prime influence: L1, L10 or L3 in H3 or L3 influencing H1 or H10, especially if L3 happens to be Sun (Gemini rising) or Mars (Aquarius rising) as additional influence: L6 in H1, H3 or H4 It is interesting to study charts of rulers and military leaders with an eye to this rule. 1. Napoleon Bonaparte has 24° Libra rising (15 August 1769, 11:30 AM, Ajaccio, Corsica). - L1 Venus is strong in Gemini H9 giving him a lut of luck in life, not least through women. - L3 Jupiter is conjunct the ascending degree. Here is a prime example of the "rule for the dictatorship". - L7 mars is well placed on H11 MEP, giving his military impulse. - L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 in close opposition with L10 Moon in Capricorn H4. This aspect gave him a pronounced strategic ability. - Rahu in Sagittarius H3 aspects his infant L11 Sun in Leo H11. His father died penniless and NB became an enemy of the monarchies of Europe, who plotted against him. There are rumours he died from arsenic poisoning, administered by his English court-appointed doctor. 2. Adolph Hitler had 1° Libra rising (20 April 1889, 18:00, Braunau-an-Im, Austria). - 3 planets, including L3 Jupiter, are in H3. This is another good example of the "rule of dictatorship". - L11 Sun is exalted in Aries H7 widely conjunct L12 Mercury - L1 Venus was conjunct L7 Mars in Aries H7 under aspect from L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 but also Ketu in H3. Notice the similarities with the chart for Napoleon? Best wishes, Thor Biographical timeline for Napoleon Bonaparte:August 15, 1769: Napoleon Bonaparte born in Ajaccio, Corsica. May 17, 1779: Napoleon begins study at the royal military academy October 17: 1784: Enrolls in the Ecole Militaire 24 Feb 1785: Napoleon´s father, Carlo BONAPARTE (born on 29 Mar 1746), dies, penniless, likely from stomach cancer. Described as "A political opportunist, social climber and probable hedonist." The above is consistent with Rahu closely afflicting Sun in Napoleon´s chart. October 28, 1785: Graduates from Ecole Militaire with the rank of second lieutenant in the artillery. November 3, 1785: Stationed in Valence July 14, 1789: Paris mob storms the Bastille May-October, 1792: While in Paris with his regiment, Napoleon witnesses the storming of the Tuileries Palace and the dethroning of the French King, Louis XVI. June 13, 1793: Accused of being too pro-French, Napoleon and his family flee their household in Corsica December 22, 1793: For his courage at an internal French battle at Toulon, Napoleon receives the new rank of brigadier general August 9-20, 1794: Napoleon is imprisoned under suspicion of being a Jacobin and a supporter of Robespierre June 13, 1795: Napoleon is promoted to General of the Army of the West October 5, 1795: The government assigns Napoleon the task of suppressing civil strife and rebellion against the Republic October 15, 1785: At the home of Paul Francois Barras, a Directory member, Napoleon meets Rose de Beauharnais (Josephine) October 16, 1785: Barras helps Napoleon win promotion to Commander of the Army of the Interior March 2, 1786: Napoleon is given command of the French army in Italy March 9, 1796: Napoleon marries Josephine March 11, 1796: Italian campaign against Austria begins May 10, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Lodi November 17, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Arcole January 14, 1797: Napoleon wins the Battle of Rivoli October 17, 1797: Napoleon draws up the Treaty of Campo-Formio with Austria December 5, 1797: He returns to Paris a hero May 19, 1798: Napoleon begins his Egyptian campaign July 2, 1798: Fall of Alexandria July 21, 1798: Wins Battle of the Pyramids against Mamelukes in Egypt July 24, 1798: Fall of Cairo August 1, 1798: Under the command of Admiral Nelson, the British fleet destroys the French navy in the Battle of Aboukir August 23, 1799: Receiving news of turmoil in France, Napoleon returns to Paris November 9-10, 1799: Following a coup d'etat, Napoleon becomes First Consul of the new French government February 19, 1800: Sets up a household in Tuileries Palace May 20, 1800: Napoleon leads his army across the Alps in the Second Italian Campaign June 14, 1800: Wins Battle of Marengo against Austria February 9, 1800: Treaty with Austria signed at Luneville July 15, 1801: Signing of the Concordat between France and Rome ends schism between the French government and the Catholic Church December 24, 1801: Napoleon escapes an assassination attempt March 25, 1802: Treaty of Amiens signed with Britain May 1, 1802: Napoleon restructures French educational system August 4, 1802: New constitution adopted, making Napoleon First Consul for life May 3, 1803: France sells Louisiana territory to U.S. May 16, 1803: England violates Treaty of Amiens May 18, 1804: Senate proclaims Napoleon Emperor December 2, 1804: Napoleon crowns himself Emperor in Notre-Dame Cathedral, Paris March 17, 1805: Napoleon is crowned king of Italy in Milan October 21, 1805: The Battle of Trafalgar marks yet another naval defeat to the British under the command of Admiral Nelson December 2, 1805: Victory in the Battle of Austerlitz against Austria and Russia March 30, 1806: Napoleon names his brother, Joseph Bonaparte, king of Naples, and appoints other family members to various other posts June 14, 1807: Defeats the Russians at the Battle of Friedland July 7, 1807: Czar Alexander I makes peace with Napoleon in the Treaty of Tilsit July 22, 1807: Napoleon creates the Grand Duchy of Warsaw (Poland), to be overseen by France November 30, 1807: Beginning of French occupation of Portugal February 20, 1808: Napoleon sends the French marshal Joachim Murat to lead an army in Spain May 2, 1808: Unsuccessful Spanish revolt against French army under Murat June 4, 1808: Napoleon names Joseph Bonaparte King of Spain, and Murat King of Naples December 15, 1809: Divorces Josephine April 2, 1810: Marries Marie-Louise, Archduchess of Austria March 20, 1811: Napoleon's son born, referred to as the "King of Rome" June 24, 1812: Russian Campaign begins September 14, 1812: Grand Army enters Moscow to find the city abandoned and set aflame by the inhabitants; retreating in the midst of a frigid winter, the army suffers devastating losses December 18, 1812: Napoleon returns to Paris March 17, 1813: Prussia declares war on France June 21, 1813: The French fall to Spain in the Battle of Vitoria January 1814: Anti-French coalition army enters France March 30-31, 1814: Paris falls April 2, 1814: Senate proclaims end of the Empire; Napoleon's wife and son flee Paris. April 4, 1814: Napoleon abdicates his rule and Louis XVIII, a Bourbon, is restored to the French throne May 4, 1814: Napoleon is exiled to Elba; his wife and son take refuge in Vienna March 1, 1815: Escaping Elba, Napoleon returns in South France March 7, 1815: Napoleon rallies the French army March 20, 1815: Louis XVIII flees, Napoleon takes control, begins "Hundred Days" campaign June 18, 1815: Defeated in the Battle of Waterloo by the British and Prussians, led by Wellington and Blucher June 22, 1815: Abdicates for the second time October 16, 1815: Napoleon is exiled to Saint Helena March 5, 1821: Napoleon dies Source: David Frawley, Astrology of the Seers, 1980. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Dear Thor and Prof.Choudhry, Namasthe.Thor, my God! this is really a marvellous piece of research in the SA-concerning "the destiny of nations", shaped and driven by dictators.I hope, at some time in the future, I'll get an opportunity to go into this research to a deeper extent. I have been interested in an allied discipline, which I may call "the ethos of the nations". I hope we may also understand all human civilizations as well-through such Sa work- by understanding "the ethos of the nations", which have sprung from the soil of the age-old precursor civilizations". In the course of the last year, so much of insightful work has gone on in the SAMVA circle, on these themes; that all SA Intl conference[2008] delegates may now instinctively look forward to at least a bird's eye view of this marvellous SA work.I seek Prof.Choudhry's and Thor's views on this suggestion; as also the views of other SA astrologers on the SAMVA list, who have been contributing significantly towards this fascinating study. Warm Regards Sankara - Cosmologer samva Saturday, December 08, 2007 6:32 AM Rule for Dictatorship Dear friends Recently, gave us the following rule for Dictatorship. RULE FOR DICTATORSHIP In the mundane chart look for as prime influence: L1, L10 or L3 in H3 or L3 influencing H1 or H10, especially if L3 happens to be Sun (Gemini rising) or Mars (Aquarius rising) as additional influence: L6 in H1, H3 or H4 It is interesting to study charts of rulers and military leaders with an eye to this rule. 1. Napoleon Bonaparte has 24° Libra rising (15 August 1769, 11:30 AM, Ajaccio, Corsica). - L1 Venus is strong in Gemini H9 giving him a lut of luck in life, not least through women. - L3 Jupiter is conjunct the ascending degree. Here is a prime example of the "rule for the dictatorship". - L7 mars is well placed on H11 MEP, giving his military impulse. - L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 in close opposition with L10 Moon in Capricorn H4. This aspect gave him a pronounced strategic ability. - Rahu in Sagittarius H3 aspects his infant L11 Sun in Leo H11. His father died penniless and NB became an enemy of the monarchies of Europe, who plotted against him. There are rumours he died from arsenic poisoning, administered by his English court-appointed doctor. 2. Adolph Hitler had 1° Libra rising (20 April 1889, 18:00, Braunau-an-Im, Austria). - 3 planets, including L3 Jupiter, are in H3. This is another good example of the "rule of dictatorship". - L11 Sun is exalted in Aries H7 widely conjunct L12 Mercury - L1 Venus was conjunct L7 Mars in Aries H7 under aspect from L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 but also Ketu in H3. Notice the similarities with the chart for Napoleon? Best wishes, Thor Biographical timeline for Napoleon Bonaparte:August 15, 1769: Napoleon Bonaparte born in Ajaccio, Corsica. May 17, 1779: Napoleon begins study at the royal military academy October 17: 1784: Enrolls in the Ecole Militaire 24 Feb 1785: Napoleon´s father, Carlo BONAPARTE (born on 29 Mar 1746), dies, penniless, likely from stomach cancer. Described as "A political opportunist, social climber and probable hedonist." The above is consistent with Rahu closely afflicting Sun in Napoleon´s chart. October 28, 1785: Graduates from Ecole Militaire with the rank of second lieutenant in the artillery. November 3, 1785: Stationed in Valence July 14, 1789: Paris mob storms the Bastille May-October, 1792: While in Paris with his regiment, Napoleon witnesses the storming of the Tuileries Palace and the dethroning of the French King, Louis XVI. June 13, 1793: Accused of being too pro-French, Napoleon and his family flee their household in Corsica December 22, 1793: For his courage at an internal French battle at Toulon, Napoleon receives the new rank of brigadier general August 9-20, 1794: Napoleon is imprisoned under suspicion of being a Jacobin and a supporter of Robespierre June 13, 1795: Napoleon is promoted to General of the Army of the West October 5, 1795: The government assigns Napoleon the task of suppressing civil strife and rebellion against the Republic October 15, 1785: At the home of Paul Francois Barras, a Directory member, Napoleon meets Rose de Beauharnais (Josephine) October 16, 1785: Barras helps Napoleon win promotion to Commander of the Army of the Interior March 2, 1786: Napoleon is given command of the French army in Italy March 9, 1796: Napoleon marries Josephine March 11, 1796: Italian campaign against Austria begins May 10, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Lodi November 17, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Arcole January 14, 1797: Napoleon wins the Battle of Rivoli October 17, 1797: Napoleon draws up the Treaty of Campo-Formio with Austria December 5, 1797: He returns to Paris a hero May 19, 1798: Napoleon begins his Egyptian campaign July 2, 1798: Fall of Alexandria July 21, 1798: Wins Battle of the Pyramids against Mamelukes in Egypt July 24, 1798: Fall of Cairo August 1, 1798: Under the command of Admiral Nelson, the British fleet destroys the French navy in the Battle of Aboukir August 23, 1799: Receiving news of turmoil in France, Napoleon returns to Paris November 9-10, 1799: Following a coup d'etat, Napoleon becomes First Consul of the new French government February 19, 1800: Sets up a household in Tuileries Palace May 20, 1800: Napoleon leads his army across the Alps in the Second Italian Campaign June 14, 1800: Wins Battle of Marengo against Austria February 9, 1800: Treaty with Austria signed at Luneville July 15, 1801: Signing of the Concordat between France and Rome ends schism between the French government and the Catholic Church December 24, 1801: Napoleon escapes an assassination attempt March 25, 1802: Treaty of Amiens signed with Britain May 1, 1802: Napoleon restructures French educational system August 4, 1802: New constitution adopted, making Napoleon First Consul for life May 3, 1803: France sells Louisiana territory to U.S. May 16, 1803: England violates Treaty of Amiens May 18, 1804: Senate proclaims Napoleon Emperor December 2, 1804: Napoleon crowns himself Emperor in Notre-Dame Cathedral, Paris March 17, 1805: Napoleon is crowned king of Italy in Milan October 21, 1805: The Battle of Trafalgar marks yet another naval defeat to the British under the command of Admiral Nelson December 2, 1805: Victory in the Battle of Austerlitz against Austria and Russia March 30, 1806: Napoleon names his brother, Joseph Bonaparte, king of Naples, and appoints other family members to various other posts June 14, 1807: Defeats the Russians at the Battle of Friedland July 7, 1807: Czar Alexander I makes peace with Napoleon in the Treaty of Tilsit July 22, 1807: Napoleon creates the Grand Duchy of Warsaw (Poland), to be overseen by France November 30, 1807: Beginning of French occupation of Portugal February 20, 1808: Napoleon sends the French marshal Joachim Murat to lead an army in Spain May 2, 1808: Unsuccessful Spanish revolt against French army under Murat June 4, 1808: Napoleon names Joseph Bonaparte King of Spain, and Murat King of Naples December 15, 1809: Divorces Josephine April 2, 1810: Marries Marie-Louise, Archduchess of Austria March 20, 1811: Napoleon's son born, referred to as the "King of Rome" June 24, 1812: Russian Campaign begins September 14, 1812: Grand Army enters Moscow to find the city abandoned and set aflame by the inhabitants; retreating in the midst of a frigid winter, the army suffers devastating losses December 18, 1812: Napoleon returns to Paris March 17, 1813: Prussia declares war on France June 21, 1813: The French fall to Spain in the Battle of Vitoria January 1814: Anti-French coalition army enters France March 30-31, 1814: Paris falls April 2, 1814: Senate proclaims end of the Empire; Napoleon's wife and son flee Paris. April 4, 1814: Napoleon abdicates his rule and Louis XVIII, a Bourbon, is restored to the French throne May 4, 1814: Napoleon is exiled to Elba; his wife and son take refuge in Vienna March 1, 1815: Escaping Elba, Napoleon returns in South France March 7, 1815: Napoleon rallies the French army March 20, 1815: Louis XVIII flees, Napoleon takes control, begins "Hundred Days" campaign June 18, 1815: Defeated in the Battle of Waterloo by the British and Prussians, led by Wellington and Blucher June 22, 1815: Abdicates for the second time October 16, 1815: Napoleon is exiled to Saint Helena March 5, 1821: Napoleon dies Source: David Frawley, Astrology of the Seers, 1980. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Hello dear Dr. Bhagavadpada, Certainly, this can be discussed further at the 2008 conference. I hope you will prepare a paper on this subject to explore various dimensions. With the increasing democratic values world-wide while the dictatorships may not be possible easily in future but assertive and authoritarian leaders are likely to be emerging. The authoritarian tendencies of the ruling political leaders have tremendous impact on the socio-economic life of people. Best wishes. - SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA SAMVA Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:15 AM Re: Rule for Dictatorship Dear Thor and Prof.Choudhry, Namasthe.Thor, my God! this is really a marvellous piece of research in the SA-concerning "the destiny of nations", shaped and driven by dictators.I hope, at some time in the future, I'll get an opportunity to go into this research to a deeper extent. I have been interested in an allied discipline, which I may call "the ethos of the nations". I hope we may also understand all human civilizations as well-through such Sa work- by understanding "the ethos of the nations", which have sprung from the soil of the age-old precursor civilizations". In the course of the last year, so much of insightful work has gone on in the SAMVA circle, on these themes; that all SA Intl conference[2008] delegates may now instinctively look forward to at least a bird's eye view of this marvellous SA work.I seek Prof.Choudhry's and Thor's views on this suggestion; as also the views of other SA astrologers on the SAMVA list, who have been contributing significantly towards this fascinating study. Warm Regards Sankara - Cosmologer samva Saturday, December 08, 2007 6:32 AM Rule for Dictatorship Dear friends Recently, gave us the following rule for Dictatorship. RULE FOR DICTATORSHIP In the mundane chart look for as prime influence: L1, L10 or L3 in H3 or L3 influencing H1 or H10, especially if L3 happens to be Sun (Gemini rising) or Mars (Aquarius rising) as additional influence: L6 in H1, H3 or H4 It is interesting to study charts of rulers and military leaders with an eye to this rule. 1. Napoleon Bonaparte has 24° Libra rising (15 August 1769, 11:30 AM, Ajaccio, Corsica). - L1 Venus is strong in Gemini H9 giving him a lut of luck in life, not least through women. - L3 Jupiter is conjunct the ascending degree. Here is a prime example of the "rule for the dictatorship". - L7 mars is well placed on H11 MEP, giving his military impulse. - L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 in close opposition with L10 Moon in Capricorn H4. This aspect gave him a pronounced strategic ability. - Rahu in Sagittarius H3 aspects his infant L11 Sun in Leo H11. His father died penniless and NB became an enemy of the monarchies of Europe, who plotted against him. There are rumours he died from arsenic poisoning, administered by his English court-appointed doctor. 2. Adolph Hitler had 1° Libra rising (20 April 1889, 18:00, Braunau-an-Im, Austria). - 3 planets, including L3 Jupiter, are in H3. This is another good example of the "rule of dictatorship". - L11 Sun is exalted in Aries H7 widely conjunct L12 Mercury - L1 Venus was conjunct L7 Mars in Aries H7 under aspect from L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 but also Ketu in H3. Notice the similarities with the chart for Napoleon? Best wishes, Thor Biographical timeline for Napoleon Bonaparte:August 15, 1769: Napoleon Bonaparte born in Ajaccio, Corsica. May 17, 1779: Napoleon begins study at the royal military academy October 17: 1784: Enrolls in the Ecole Militaire 24 Feb 1785: Napoleon´s father, Carlo BONAPARTE (born on 29 Mar 1746), dies, penniless, likely from stomach cancer. Described as "A political opportunist, social climber and probable hedonist." The above is consistent with Rahu closely afflicting Sun in Napoleon´s chart. October 28, 1785: Graduates from Ecole Militaire with the rank of second lieutenant in the artillery. November 3, 1785: Stationed in Valence July 14, 1789: Paris mob storms the Bastille May-October, 1792: While in Paris with his regiment, Napoleon witnesses the storming of the Tuileries Palace and the dethroning of the French King, Louis XVI. June 13, 1793: Accused of being too pro-French, Napoleon and his family flee their household in Corsica December 22, 1793: For his courage at an internal French battle at Toulon, Napoleon receives the new rank of brigadier general August 9-20, 1794: Napoleon is imprisoned under suspicion of being a Jacobin and a supporter of Robespierre June 13, 1795: Napoleon is promoted to General of the Army of the West October 5, 1795: The government assigns Napoleon the task of suppressing civil strife and rebellion against the Republic October 15, 1785: At the home of Paul Francois Barras, a Directory member, Napoleon meets Rose de Beauharnais (Josephine) October 16, 1785: Barras helps Napoleon win promotion to Commander of the Army of the Interior March 2, 1786: Napoleon is given command of the French army in Italy March 9, 1796: Napoleon marries Josephine March 11, 1796: Italian campaign against Austria begins May 10, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Lodi November 17, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Arcole January 14, 1797: Napoleon wins the Battle of Rivoli October 17, 1797: Napoleon draws up the Treaty of Campo-Formio with Austria December 5, 1797: He returns to Paris a hero May 19, 1798: Napoleon begins his Egyptian campaign July 2, 1798: Fall of Alexandria July 21, 1798: Wins Battle of the Pyramids against Mamelukes in Egypt July 24, 1798: Fall of Cairo August 1, 1798: Under the command of Admiral Nelson, the British fleet destroys the French navy in the Battle of Aboukir August 23, 1799: Receiving news of turmoil in France, Napoleon returns to Paris November 9-10, 1799: Following a coup d'etat, Napoleon becomes First Consul of the new French government February 19, 1800: Sets up a household in Tuileries Palace May 20, 1800: Napoleon leads his army across the Alps in the Second Italian Campaign June 14, 1800: Wins Battle of Marengo against Austria February 9, 1800: Treaty with Austria signed at Luneville July 15, 1801: Signing of the Concordat between France and Rome ends schism between the French government and the Catholic Church December 24, 1801: Napoleon escapes an assassination attempt March 25, 1802: Treaty of Amiens signed with Britain May 1, 1802: Napoleon restructures French educational system August 4, 1802: New constitution adopted, making Napoleon First Consul for life May 3, 1803: France sells Louisiana territory to U.S. May 16, 1803: England violates Treaty of Amiens May 18, 1804: Senate proclaims Napoleon Emperor December 2, 1804: Napoleon crowns himself Emperor in Notre-Dame Cathedral, Paris March 17, 1805: Napoleon is crowned king of Italy in Milan October 21, 1805: The Battle of Trafalgar marks yet another naval defeat to the British under the command of Admiral Nelson December 2, 1805: Victory in the Battle of Austerlitz against Austria and Russia March 30, 1806: Napoleon names his brother, Joseph Bonaparte, king of Naples, and appoints other family members to various other posts June 14, 1807: Defeats the Russians at the Battle of Friedland July 7, 1807: Czar Alexander I makes peace with Napoleon in the Treaty of Tilsit July 22, 1807: Napoleon creates the Grand Duchy of Warsaw (Poland), to be overseen by France November 30, 1807: Beginning of French occupation of Portugal February 20, 1808: Napoleon sends the French marshal Joachim Murat to lead an army in Spain May 2, 1808: Unsuccessful Spanish revolt against French army under Murat June 4, 1808: Napoleon names Joseph Bonaparte King of Spain, and Murat King of Naples December 15, 1809: Divorces Josephine April 2, 1810: Marries Marie-Louise, Archduchess of Austria March 20, 1811: Napoleon's son born, referred to as the "King of Rome" June 24, 1812: Russian Campaign begins September 14, 1812: Grand Army enters Moscow to find the city abandoned and set aflame by the inhabitants; retreating in the midst of a frigid winter, the army suffers devastating losses December 18, 1812: Napoleon returns to Paris March 17, 1813: Prussia declares war on France June 21, 1813: The French fall to Spain in the Battle of Vitoria January 1814: Anti-French coalition army enters France March 30-31, 1814: Paris falls April 2, 1814: Senate proclaims end of the Empire; Napoleon's wife and son flee Paris. April 4, 1814: Napoleon abdicates his rule and Louis XVIII, a Bourbon, is restored to the French throne May 4, 1814: Napoleon is exiled to Elba; his wife and son take refuge in Vienna March 1, 1815: Escaping Elba, Napoleon returns in South France March 7, 1815: Napoleon rallies the French army March 20, 1815: Louis XVIII flees, Napoleon takes control, begins "Hundred Days" campaign June 18, 1815: Defeated in the Battle of Waterloo by the British and Prussians, led by Wellington and Blucher June 22, 1815: Abdicates for the second time October 16, 1815: Napoleon is exiled to Saint Helena March 5, 1821: Napoleon dies Source: David Frawley, Astrology of the Seers, 1980. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Dear Sankara, I am glad you like the research results. I have been fortunate to do research under the guidance of Professor Choudhry for many years. During this time, I have been able to ask him questions about mundane issues that are sometimes difficult to define. For example, in 1999 I asked him what it was that determined " currency strength " . He gave us then a wonderful insight that has been researched extensively since. Through the years, I and many SAMVA list members have asked him other questions, and he has given us answers as his precious time allows. Many very competent astrologers have contributed their time on SAMVA to inquire further and experiment on this basis. The information so gathered is now part of the overall knowledge that informs SA mundane astrology. The whole field of applying SA astrology to the rectification and analysis of mundane charts has taken a quantum leap on SAMVA under his guidance. In this way, we are helping him advance this important knowledge to the benefit of the broader astrology community, both for our time and that of future generations. The new " rule for dictatorship " is very much a product of this process of developing knowledge we are so fortunate to have here on SAMVA, to ask a real master of astrology. Even in replying to you, he gave a further insight into what impact to expect from authoritarian personalities in democratic societies in the future. That is an important new insight. In my mind, it is no accident that Professor Choudhry shares the Gemini rising sign with that of another great thinker with penetrating insights, Dr. Albert Einstein. I think it would be a wonderful idea to present insights on SA mundane astrology at the SA conference. Actually, I would be consider it an honor for this list if some of the insights that have emerged here were included in the coference. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA " <sankara wrote: > > Dear Thor and Prof.Choudhry, > > Namasthe.Thor, my God! this is really a marvellous piece of research in the SA-concerning " the destiny of nations " , shaped and driven by dictators.I hope, at some time in the future, I'll get an opportunity to go into this research to a deeper extent. I have been interested in an allied discipline, which I may call " the ethos of the nations " . I hope we may also understand all human civilizations as well-through such Sa work- by understanding " the ethos of the nations " , which have sprung from the soil of the age-old precursor civilizations " . > > In the course of the last year, so much of insightful work has gone on in the SAMVA circle, on these themes; that all SA Intl conference [2008] delegates may now instinctively look forward to at least a bird's eye view of this marvellous SA work.I seek Prof.Choudhry's and Thor's views on this suggestion; as also the views of other SA astrologers on the SAMVA list, who have been contributing significantly towards this fascinating study. > Warm Regards > Sankara > > - > Cosmologer > samva > Saturday, December 08, 2007 6:32 AM > Rule for Dictatorship > > > > Dear friends > > Recently, gave us the following rule for Dictatorship. > > RULE FOR DICTATORSHIP > In the mundane chart look for > > as prime influence: > L1, L10 or L3 in H3 > > or L3 influencing H1 or H10, especially if L3 happens to be Sun (Gemini rising) or Mars (Aquarius rising) > > as additional influence: > L6 in H1, H3 or H4 > > It is interesting to study charts of rulers and military leaders with an eye to this rule. > > 1. Napoleon Bonaparte has 24° Libra rising (15 August 1769, 11:30 AM, Ajaccio, Corsica). > - L1 Venus is strong in Gemini H9 giving him a lut of luck in life, not least through women. > - L3 Jupiter is conjunct the ascending degree. Here is a prime example of the " rule for the dictatorship " . > - L7 mars is well placed on H11 MEP, giving his military impulse. > - L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 in close opposition with L10 Moon in Capricorn H4. This aspect gave him a pronounced strategic ability. > - Rahu in Sagittarius H3 aspects his infant L11 Sun in Leo H11. His father died penniless and NB became an enemy of the monarchies of Europe, who plotted against him. There are rumours he died from arsenic poisoning, administered by his English court-appointed doctor. > > 2. Adolph Hitler had 1° Libra rising (20 April 1889, 18:00, Braunau-an-Im, Austria). > - 3 planets, including L3 Jupiter, are in H3. This is another good example of the " rule of dictatorship " . > - L11 Sun is exalted in Aries H7 widely conjunct L12 Mercury > - L1 Venus was conjunct L7 Mars in Aries H7 under aspect from L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 but also Ketu in H3. > > Notice the similarities with the chart for Napoleon? > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Biographical timeline for Napoleon Bonaparte: > August 15, 1769: Napoleon Bonaparte born in Ajaccio, Corsica. > May 17, 1779: Napoleon begins study at the royal military academy > October 17: 1784: Enrolls in the Ecole Militaire > 24 Feb 1785: Napoleon´s father, Carlo BONAPARTE (born on 29 Mar 1746), dies, penniless, likely from stomach cancer. Described as " A political opportunist, social climber and probable hedonist. " The above is consistent with Rahu closely afflicting Sun in Napoleon´s chart. > October 28, 1785: Graduates from Ecole Militaire with the rank of second lieutenant in the artillery. > November 3, 1785: Stationed in Valence > July 14, 1789: Paris mob storms the Bastille > May-October, 1792: While in Paris with his regiment, Napoleon witnesses the storming of the Tuileries Palace and the dethroning of the French King, Louis XVI. > June 13, 1793: Accused of being too pro-French, Napoleon and his family flee their household in Corsica > December 22, 1793: For his courage at an internal French battle at Toulon, Napoleon receives the new rank of brigadier general > August 9-20, 1794: Napoleon is imprisoned under suspicion of being a Jacobin and a supporter of Robespierre > June 13, 1795: Napoleon is promoted to General of the Army of the West > October 5, 1795: The government assigns Napoleon the task of suppressing civil strife and rebellion against the Republic > October 15, 1785: At the home of Paul Francois Barras, ay member, Napoleon meets Rose de Beauharnais (Josephine) > October 16, 1785: Barras helps Napoleon win promotion to Commander of the Army of the Interior > March 2, 1786: Napoleon is given command of the French army in Italy > March 9, 1796: Napoleon marries Josephine > March 11, 1796: Italian campaign against Austria begins > May 10, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Lodi > November 17, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Arcole > January 14, 1797: Napoleon wins the Battle of Rivoli > October 17, 1797: Napoleon draws up the Treaty of Campo-Formio with Austria > December 5, 1797: He returns to Paris a hero > May 19, 1798: Napoleon begins his Egyptian campaign > July 2, 1798: Fall of Alexandria > July 21, 1798: Wins Battle of the Pyramids against Mamelukes in Egypt > July 24, 1798: Fall of Cairo > August 1, 1798: Under the command of Admiral Nelson, the British fleet destroys the French navy in the Battle of Aboukir > August 23, 1799: Receiving news of turmoil in France, Napoleon returns to Paris > November 9-10, 1799: Following a coup d'etat, Napoleon becomes First Consul of the new French government > February 19, 1800: Sets up a household in Tuileries Palace > May 20, 1800: Napoleon leads his army across the Alps in the Second Italian Campaign > June 14, 1800: Wins Battle of Marengo against Austria > February 9, 1800: Treaty with Austria signed at Luneville > July 15, 1801: Signing of the Concordat between France and Rome ends schism between the French government and the Catholic Church > December 24, 1801: Napoleon escapes an assassination attempt > March 25, 1802: Treaty of Amiens signed with Britain > May 1, 1802: Napoleon restructures French educational system > August 4, 1802: New constitution adopted, making Napoleon First Consul for life > May 3, 1803: France sells Louisiana territory to U.S. > May 16, 1803: England violates Treaty of Amiens > May 18, 1804: Senate proclaims Napoleon Emperor > December 2, 1804: Napoleon crowns himself Emperor in Notre-Dame Cathedral, Paris > March 17, 1805: Napoleon is crowned king of Italy in Milan > October 21, 1805: The Battle of Trafalgar marks yet another naval defeat to the British under the command of Admiral Nelson > December 2, 1805: Victory in the Battle of Austerlitz against Austria and Russia > March 30, 1806: Napoleon names his brother, Joseph Bonaparte, king of Naples, and appoints other family members to various other posts > June 14, 1807: Defeats the Russians at the Battle of Friedland > July 7, 1807: Czar Alexander I makes peace with Napoleon in the Treaty of Tilsit > July 22, 1807: Napoleon creates the Grand Duchy of Warsaw (Poland), to be overseen by France > November 30, 1807: Beginning of French occupation of Portugal > February 20, 1808: Napoleon sends the French marshal Joachim Murat to lead an army in Spain > May 2, 1808: Unsuccessful Spanish revolt against French army under Murat > June 4, 1808: Napoleon names Joseph Bonaparte King of Spain, and Murat King of Naples > December 15, 1809: Divorces Josephine > April 2, 1810: Marries Marie-Louise, Archduchess of Austria > March 20, 1811: Napoleon's son born, referred to as the " King of Rome " > June 24, 1812: Russian Campaign begins > September 14, 1812: Grand Army enters Moscow to find the city abandoned and set aflame by the inhabitants; retreating in the midst of a frigid winter, the army suffers devastating losses > December 18, 1812: Napoleon returns to Paris > March 17, 1813: Prussia declares war on France > June 21, 1813: The French fall to Spain in the Battle of Vitoria > January 1814: Anti-French coalition army enters France > March 30-31, 1814: Paris falls > April 2, 1814: Senate proclaims end of the Empire; Napoleon's wife and son flee Paris. > April 4, 1814: Napoleon abdicates his rule and Louis XVIII, a Bourbon, is restored to the French throne > May 4, 1814: Napoleon is exiled to Elba; his wife and son take refuge in Vienna > March 1, 1815: Escaping Elba, Napoleon returns in South France > March 7, 1815: Napoleon rallies the French army > March 20, 1815: Louis XVIII flees, Napoleon takes control, begins " Hundred Days " campaign > June 18, 1815: Defeated in the Battle of Waterloo by the British and Prussians, led by Wellington and Blucher > June 22, 1815: Abdicates for the second time > October 16, 1815: Napoleon is exiled to Saint Helena > March 5, 1821: Napoleon dies > Source: David Frawley, Astrology of the Seers, 1980. > > > > > -- ---------- > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Dear friends, There is one more aspect to the " rule for dictatorship " to discuss more fully. has given us a hint on this. It concerns what planet is L3 for individual ascendants (where an MT sign falls in H3). He has mentioned in particular the importance of Sun as L3 for Gemini's and Mars as L3 for Aquarius, when aspecting H1 or H10 as influential in giving an authoritarian personality or a country with such tendencies in the collective psychology. As we have seen in the case of Napoleon and Hitler, who campaigned feverishly to expand their borders/empires, it was the expansive planet Jupiter that was L3. Is this a coincidence? I don´t think so. In any event, let us consider the all the ascendants that have a MT sign in H3 what planets are involved. Further, I try to focus the discussion by offering one word to give an insight into what the focus of the authoritarian efforts may be for each ascendant: Asc L3 (operative descriptor) Taurus: Moon (promoting) Gemini: Sun (ordering) Cancer: Mercury (informing) Leo: Venus (knowing) Libra: Jupiter (expanding) Sagit.: Saturn (contracting) Aquar.: Mars (controlling) In other words, we can probably expand our insight further with regards to the ascendants with MT signs in H3 as to how the authoritarian tendencies would manifest. , if he has time, is welcome to improve on this description. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear friends > > Recently, gave us the following rule for Dictatorship. > > RULE FOR DICTATORSHIP > In the mundane chart look for > > as prime influence: > L1, L10 or L3 in H3 > > or L3 influencing H1 or H10, especially if L3 happens to be Sun (Gemini rising) or Mars (Aquarius rising) > > as additional influence: > L6 in H1, H3 or H4 > > It is interesting to study charts of rulers and military leaders with an eye to this rule. > > 1. Napoleon Bonaparte has 24° Libra rising (15 August 1769, 11:30 AM, Ajaccio, Corsica). > - L1 Venus is strong in Gemini H9 giving him a lut of luck in life, not least through women. > - L3 Jupiter is conjunct the ascending degree. Here is a prime example of the " rule for the dictatorship " . > - L7 mars is well placed on H11 MEP, giving his military impulse. > - L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 in close opposition with L10 Moon in Capricorn H4. This aspect gave him a pronounced strategic ability. > - Rahu in Sagittarius H3 aspects his infant L11 Sun in Leo H11. His father died penniless and NB became an enemy of the monarchies of Europe, who plotted against him. There are rumours he died from arsenic poisoning, administered by his English court-appointed doctor. > > 2. Adolph Hitler had 1° Libra rising (20 April 1889, 18:00, Braunau- an-Im, Austria). > - 3 planets, including L3 Jupiter, are in H3. This is another good example of the " rule of dictatorship " . > - L11 Sun is exalted in Aries H7 widely conjunct L12 Mercury > - L1 Venus was conjunct L7 Mars in Aries H7 under aspect from L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 but also Ketu in H3. > > Notice the similarities with the chart for Napoleon? > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Biographical timeline for Napoleon Bonaparte: > August 15, 1769: Napoleon Bonaparte born in Ajaccio, Corsica. > May 17, 1779: Napoleon begins study at the royal military academy > October 17: 1784: Enrolls in the Ecole Militaire > 24 Feb 1785: Napoleon´s father, Carlo BONAPARTE (born on 29 Mar 1746), dies, penniless, likely from stomach cancer. Described as " A political opportunist, social climber and probable hedonist. " The above is consistent with Rahu closely afflicting Sun in Napoleon´s chart. > October 28, 1785: Graduates from Ecole Militaire with the rank of second lieutenant in the artillery. > November 3, 1785: Stationed in Valence > July 14, 1789: Paris mob storms the Bastille > May-October, 1792: While in Paris with his regiment, Napoleon witnesses the storming of the Tuileries Palace and the dethroning of the French King, Louis XVI. > June 13, 1793: Accused of being too pro-French, Napoleon and his family flee their household in Corsica > December 22, 1793: For his courage at an internal French battle at Toulon, Napoleon receives the new rank of brigadier general > August 9-20, 1794: Napoleon is imprisoned under suspicion of being a Jacobin and a supporter of Robespierre > June 13, 1795: Napoleon is promoted to General of the Army of the West > October 5, 1795: The government assigns Napoleon the task of suppressing civil strife and rebellion against the Republic > October 15, 1785: At the home of Paul Francois Barras, a Directory member, Napoleon meets Rose de Beauharnais (Josephine) > October 16, 1785: Barras helps Napoleon win promotion to Commander of the Army of the Interior > March 2, 1786: Napoleon is given command of the French army in Italy > March 9, 1796: Napoleon marries Josephine > March 11, 1796: Italian campaign against Austria begins > May 10, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Lodi > November 17, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Arcole > January 14, 1797: Napoleon wins the Battle of Rivoli > October 17, 1797: Napoleon draws up the Treaty of Campo-Formio with Austria > December 5, 1797: He returns to Paris a hero > May 19, 1798: Napoleon begins his Egyptian campaign > July 2, 1798: Fall of Alexandria > July 21, 1798: Wins Battle of the Pyramids against Mamelukes in Egypt > July 24, 1798: Fall of Cairo > August 1, 1798: Under the command of Admiral Nelson, the British fleet destroys the French navy in the Battle of Aboukir > August 23, 1799: Receiving news of turmoil in France, Napoleon returns to Paris > November 9-10, 1799: Following a coup d'etat, Napoleon becomes First Consul of the new French government > February 19, 1800: Sets up a household in Tuileries Palace > May 20, 1800: Napoleon leads his army across the Alps in the Second Italian Campaign > June 14, 1800: Wins Battle of Marengo against Austria > February 9, 1800: Treaty with Austria signed at Luneville > July 15, 1801: Signing of the Concordat between France and Rome ends schism between the French government and the Catholic Church > December 24, 1801: Napoleon escapes an assassination attempt > March 25, 1802: Treaty of Amiens signed with Britain > May 1, 1802: Napoleon restructures French educational system > August 4, 1802: New constitution adopted, making Napoleon First Consul for life > May 3, 1803: France sells Louisiana territory to U.S. > May 16, 1803: England violates Treaty of Amiens > May 18, 1804: Senate proclaims Napoleon Emperor > December 2, 1804: Napoleon crowns himself Emperor in Notre-Dame Cathedral, Paris > March 17, 1805: Napoleon is crowned king of Italy in Milan > October 21, 1805: The Battle of Trafalgar marks yet another naval defeat to the British under the command of Admiral Nelson > December 2, 1805: Victory in the Battle of Austerlitz against Austria and Russia > March 30, 1806: Napoleon names his brother, Joseph Bonaparte, king of Naples, and appoints other family members to various other posts > June 14, 1807: Defeats the Russians at the Battle of Friedland > July 7, 1807: Czar Alexander I makes peace with Napoleon in the Treaty of Tilsit > July 22, 1807: Napoleon creates the Grand Duchy of Warsaw (Poland), to be overseen by France > November 30, 1807: Beginning of French occupation of Portugal > February 20, 1808: Napoleon sends the French marshal Joachim Murat to lead an army in Spain > May 2, 1808: Unsuccessful Spanish revolt against French army under Murat > June 4, 1808: Napoleon names Joseph Bonaparte King of Spain, and Murat King of Naples > December 15, 1809: Divorces Josephine > April 2, 1810: Marries Marie-Louise, Archduchess of Austria > March 20, 1811: Napoleon's son born, referred to as the " King of Rome " > June 24, 1812: Russian Campaign begins > September 14, 1812: Grand Army enters Moscow to find the city abandoned and set aflame by the inhabitants; retreating in the midst of a frigid winter, the army suffers devastating losses > December 18, 1812: Napoleon returns to Paris > March 17, 1813: Prussia declares war on France > June 21, 1813: The French fall to Spain in the Battle of Vitoria > January 1814: Anti-French coalition army enters France > March 30-31, 1814: Paris falls > April 2, 1814: Senate proclaims end of the Empire; Napoleon's wife and son flee Paris. > April 4, 1814: Napoleon abdicates his rule and Louis XVIII, a Bourbon, is restored to the French throne > May 4, 1814: Napoleon is exiled to Elba; his wife and son take refuge in Vienna > March 1, 1815: Escaping Elba, Napoleon returns in South France > March 7, 1815: Napoleon rallies the French army > March 20, 1815: Louis XVIII flees, Napoleon takes control, begins " Hundred Days " campaign > June 18, 1815: Defeated in the Battle of Waterloo by the British and Prussians, led by Wellington and Blucher > June 22, 1815: Abdicates for the second time > October 16, 1815: Napoleon is exiled to Saint Helena > March 5, 1821: Napoleon dies > Source: David Frawley, Astrology of the Seers, 1980. > > > ____________________ ______________ > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Dear Thor, Also note that in these two charts, wars were waged during a Rahu main period. Rahu always wants more and is never satisfied. In both cases, Rahu has some connection to H3. Warm regards,Shayn Cosmologer <cosmologersamva Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 6:02:47 PM Rule for Dictatorship Dear friends Recently, gave us the following rule for Dictatorship. RULE FOR DICTATORSHIP In the mundane chart look for as prime influence: L1, L10 or L3 in H3 or L3 influencing H1 or H10, especially if L3 happens to be Sun (Gemini rising) or Mars (Aquarius rising) as additional influence: L6 in H1, H3 or H4 It is interesting to study charts of rulers and military leaders with an eye to this rule. 1. Napoleon Bonaparte has 24° Libra rising (15 August 1769, 11:30 AM, Ajaccio, Corsica). - L1 Venus is strong in Gemini H9 giving him a lut of luck in life, not least through women. - L3 Jupiter is conjunct the ascending degree. Here is a prime example of the "rule for the dictatorship" . - L7 mars is well placed on H11 MEP, giving his military impulse. - L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 in close opposition with L10 Moon in Capricorn H4. This aspect gave him a pronounced strategic ability. - Rahu in Sagittarius H3 aspects his infant L11 Sun in Leo H11. His father died penniless and NB became an enemy of the monarchies of Europe, who plotted against him. There are rumours he died from arsenic poisoning, administered by his English court-appointed doctor. 2. Adolph Hitler had 1° Libra rising (20 April 1889, 18:00, Braunau-an-Im, Austria). - 3 planets, including L3 Jupiter, are in H3. This is another good example of the "rule of dictatorship" . - L11 Sun is exalted in Aries H7 widely conjunct L12 Mercury - L1 Venus was conjunct L7 Mars in Aries H7 under aspect from L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 but also Ketu in H3. Notice the similarities with the chart for Napoleon? Best wishes, Thor Biographical timeline for Napoleon Bonaparte:August 15, 1769: Napoleon Bonaparte born in Ajaccio, Corsica. May 17, 1779: Napoleon begins study at the royal military academy October 17: 1784: Enrolls in the Ecole Militaire 24 Feb 1785: Napoleon´s father, Carlo BONAPARTE (born on 29 Mar 1746), dies, penniless, likely from stomach cancer. Described as "A political opportunist, social climber and probable hedonist." The above is consistent with Rahu closely afflicting Sun in Napoleon´s chart. October 28, 1785: Graduates from Ecole Militaire with the rank of second lieutenant in the artillery. November 3, 1785: Stationed in Valence July 14, 1789: Paris mob storms the Bastille May-October, 1792: While in Paris with his regiment, Napoleon witnesses the storming of the Tuileries Palace and the dethroning of the French King, Louis XVI. June 13, 1793: Accused of being too pro-French, Napoleon and his family flee their household in Corsica December 22, 1793: For his courage at an internal French battle at Toulon, Napoleon receives the new rank of brigadier general August 9-20, 1794: Napoleon is imprisoned under suspicion of being a Jacobin and a supporter of Robespierre June 13, 1795: Napoleon is promoted to General of the Army of the West October 5, 1795: The government assigns Napoleon the task of suppressing civil strife and rebellion against the Republic October 15, 1785: At the home of Paul Francois Barras, a Directory member, Napoleon meets Rose de Beauharnais (Josephine) October 16, 1785: Barras helps Napoleon win promotion to Commander of the Army of the Interior March 2, 1786: Napoleon is given command of the French army in Italy March 9, 1796: Napoleon marries Josephine March 11, 1796: Italian campaign against Austria begins May 10, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Lodi November 17, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Arcole January 14, 1797: Napoleon wins the Battle of Rivoli October 17, 1797: Napoleon draws up the Treaty of Campo-Formio with Austria December 5, 1797: He returns to Paris a hero May 19, 1798: Napoleon begins his Egyptian campaign July 2, 1798: Fall of Alexandria July 21, 1798: Wins Battle of the Pyramids against Mamelukes in Egypt July 24, 1798: Fall of Cairo August 1, 1798: Under the command of Admiral Nelson, the British fleet destroys the French navy in the Battle of Aboukir August 23, 1799: Receiving news of turmoil in France, Napoleon returns to Paris November 9-10, 1799: Following a coup d'etat, Napoleon becomes First Consul of the new French government February 19, 1800: Sets up a household in Tuileries Palace May 20, 1800: Napoleon leads his army across the Alps in the Second Italian Campaign June 14, 1800: Wins Battle of Marengo against Austria February 9, 1800: Treaty with Austria signed at Luneville July 15, 1801: Signing of the Concordat between France and Rome ends schism between the French government and the Catholic Church December 24, 1801: Napoleon escapes an assassination attempt March 25, 1802: Treaty of Amiens signed with Britain May 1, 1802: Napoleon restructures French educational system August 4, 1802: New constitution adopted, making Napoleon First Consul for life May 3, 1803: France sells Louisiana territory to U.S. May 16, 1803: England violates Treaty of Amiens May 18, 1804: Senate proclaims Napoleon Emperor December 2, 1804: Napoleon crowns himself Emperor in Notre-Dame Cathedral, Paris March 17, 1805: Napoleon is crowned king of Italy in Milan October 21, 1805: The Battle of Trafalgar marks yet another naval defeat to the British under the command of Admiral Nelson December 2, 1805: Victory in the Battle of Austerlitz against Austria and Russia March 30, 1806: Napoleon names his brother, Joseph Bonaparte, king of Naples, and appoints other family members to various other posts June 14, 1807: Defeats the Russians at the Battle of Friedland July 7, 1807: Czar Alexander I makes peace with Napoleon in the Treaty of Tilsit July 22, 1807: Napoleon creates the Grand Duchy of Warsaw (Poland), to be overseen by France November 30, 1807: Beginning of French occupation of Portugal February 20, 1808: Napoleon sends the French marshal Joachim Murat to lead an army in Spain May 2, 1808: Unsuccessful Spanish revolt against French army under Murat June 4, 1808: Napoleon names Joseph Bonaparte King of Spain, and Murat King of Naples December 15, 1809: Divorces Josephine April 2, 1810: Marries Marie-Louise, Archduchess of Austria March 20, 1811: Napoleon's son born, referred to as the "King of Rome" June 24, 1812: Russian Campaign begins September 14, 1812: Grand Army enters Moscow to find the city abandoned and set aflame by the inhabitants; retreating in the midst of a frigid winter, the army suffers devastating losses December 18, 1812: Napoleon returns to Paris March 17, 1813: Prussia declares war on France June 21, 1813: The French fall to Spain in the Battle of Vitoria January 1814: Anti-French coalition army enters France March 30-31, 1814: Paris falls April 2, 1814: Senate proclaims end of the Empire; Napoleon's wife and son flee Paris. April 4, 1814: Napoleon abdicates his rule and Louis XVIII, a Bourbon, is restored to the French throne May 4, 1814: Napoleon is exiled to Elba; his wife and son take refuge in Vienna March 1, 1815: Escaping Elba, Napoleon returns in South France March 7, 1815: Napoleon rallies the French army March 20, 1815: Louis XVIII flees, Napoleon takes control, begins "Hundred Days" campaign June 18, 1815: Defeated in the Battle of Waterloo by the British and Prussians, led by Wellington and Blucher June 22, 1815: Abdicates for the second time October 16, 1815: Napoleon is exiled to Saint Helena March 5, 1821: Napoleon dies Source: David Frawley, Astrology of the Seers, 1980. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Dear Shayn, As I understand this rule, the authoritarian impulse is associated with H3 and L3. This is the key element. What I am then considering is the general indication of this planet as L3, to gauge if it is important to explain the expression of the authoritarian impulse. Based on my understanding of the guidance of the general indication is important. I just expanded on that insight, with reference to the charts of the two rulers in Europe best known in modern times for having attempted to unite Europe and made much headway with that before being beaten back and defeated.In other words. Jupiter as L3 gave the impulse to control but its general indication put the emphasis on controlling a large area or to expand the empire. As regards Rahu, you bring up an interesting and relevant point that when Rahu is intertwined in such natal influences, its influence, as always, is to give a strong desire of a selfish nature that compels for underhanded means, including deception or worse, in order to gain the desire. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: > > Dear Thor, > Also note that in these two charts, wars were waged during a Rahu main period. Rahu always wants more and is never satisfied. In both cases, Rahu has some connection to H3. > > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer > samva > Friday, December 7, 2007 6:02:47 PM > Rule for Dictatorship > > Dear friends > > Recently, gave us the following rule for Dictatorship. > > RULE FOR DICTATORSHIP > In the mundane chart look for > > as prime influence: > L1, L10 or L3 in H3 > > or L3 influencing H1 or H10, especially if L3 happens to be Sun (Gemini rising) or Mars (Aquarius rising) > > as additional influence: > L6 in H1, H3 or H4 > > It is interesting to study charts of rulers and military leaders with an eye to this rule. > > 1. Napoleon Bonaparte has 24° Libra rising (15 August 1769, 11:30 AM, Ajaccio, Corsica). > - L1 Venus is strong in Gemini H9 giving him a lut of luck in life, not least through women. > - L3 Jupiter is conjunct the ascending degree. Here is a prime example of the " rule for the dictatorship " . > - L7 mars is well placed on H11 MEP, giving his military impulse. > - L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 in close opposition with L10 Moon in Capricorn H4. This aspect gave him a pronounced strategic ability. > - Rahu in Sagittarius H3 aspects his infant L11 Sun in Leo H11. His father died penniless and NB became an enemy of the monarchies of Europe, who plotted against him. There are rumours he died from arsenic poisoning, administered by his English court-appointed doctor. > > 2. Adolph Hitler had 1° Libra rising (20 April 1889, 18:00, Braunau- an-Im, Austria). > - 3 planets, including L3 Jupiter, are in H3. This is another good example of the " rule of dictatorship " . > - L11 Sun is exalted in Aries H7 widely conjunct L12 Mercury > - L1 Venus was conjunct L7 Mars in Aries H7 under aspect from L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 but also Ketu in H3. > > Notice the similarities with the chart for Napoleon? > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Biographical timeline for Napoleon Bonaparte: > August 15, 1769: Napoleon Bonaparte born in Ajaccio, Corsica. > May 17, 1779: Napoleon begins study at the royal military academy > October 17: 1784: Enrolls in the Ecole Militaire > 24 Feb 1785: Napoleon´s father, Carlo BONAPARTE (born on 29 Mar 1746), dies, penniless, likely from stomach cancer. Described as " A political opportunist, social climber and probable hedonist. " The above is consistent with Rahu closely afflicting Sun in Napoleon´s chart. > October 28, 1785: Graduates from Ecole Militaire with the rank of second lieutenant in the artillery. > November 3, 1785: Stationed in Valence > July 14, 1789: Paris mob storms the Bastille > May-October, 1792: While in Paris with his regiment, Napoleon witnesses the storming of the Tuileries Palace and the dethroning of the French King, Louis XVI. > June 13, 1793: Accused of being too pro-French, Napoleon and his family flee their household in Corsica > December 22, 1793: For his courage at an internal French battle at Toulon, Napoleon receives the new rank of brigadier general > August 9-20, 1794: Napoleon is imprisoned under suspicion of being a Jacobin and a supporter of Robespierre > June 13, 1795: Napoleon is promoted to General of the Army of the West > October 5, 1795: The government assigns Napoleon the task of suppressing civil strife and rebellion against the Republic > October 15, 1785: At the home of Paul Francois Barras, a Directory member, Napoleon meets Rose de Beauharnais (Josephine) > October 16, 1785: Barras helps Napoleon win promotion to Commander of the Army of the Interior > March 2, 1786: Napoleon is given command of the French army in Italy > March 9, 1796: Napoleon marries Josephine > March 11, 1796: Italian campaign against Austria begins > May 10, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Lodi > November 17, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Arcole > January 14, 1797: Napoleon wins the Battle of Rivoli > October 17, 1797: Napoleon draws up the Treaty of Campo-Formio with Austria > December 5, 1797: He returns to Paris a hero > May 19, 1798: Napoleon begins his Egyptian campaign > July 2, 1798: Fall of Alexandria > July 21, 1798: Wins Battle of the Pyramids against Mamelukes in Egypt > July 24, 1798: Fall of Cairo > August 1, 1798: Under the command of Admiral Nelson, the British fleet destroys the French navy in the Battle of Aboukir > August 23, 1799: Receiving news of turmoil in France, Napoleon returns to Paris > November 9-10, 1799: Following a coup d'etat, Napoleon becomes First Consul of the new French government > February 19, 1800: Sets up a household in Tuileries Palace > May 20, 1800: Napoleon leads his army across the Alps in the Second Italian Campaign > June 14, 1800: Wins Battle of Marengo against Austria > February 9, 1800: Treaty with Austria signed at Luneville > July 15, 1801: Signing of the Concordat between France and Rome ends schism between the French government and the Catholic Church > December 24, 1801: Napoleon escapes an assassination attempt > March 25, 1802: Treaty of Amiens signed with Britain > May 1, 1802: Napoleon restructures French educational system > August 4, 1802: New constitution adopted, making Napoleon First Consul for life > May 3, 1803: France sells Louisiana territory to U.S. > May 16, 1803: England violates Treaty of Amiens > May 18, 1804: Senate proclaims Napoleon Emperor > December 2, 1804: Napoleon crowns himself Emperor in Notre-Dame Cathedral, Paris > March 17, 1805: Napoleon is crowned king of Italy in Milan > October 21, 1805: The Battle of Trafalgar marks yet another naval defeat to the British under the command of Admiral Nelson > December 2, 1805: Victory in the Battle of Austerlitz against Austria and Russia > March 30, 1806: Napoleon names his brother, Joseph Bonaparte, king of Naples, and appoints other family members to various other posts > June 14, 1807: Defeats the Russians at the Battle of Friedland > July 7, 1807: Czar Alexander I makes peace with Napoleon in the Treaty of Tilsit > July 22, 1807: Napoleon creates the Grand Duchy of Warsaw (Poland), to be overseen by France > November 30, 1807: Beginning of French occupation of Portugal > February 20, 1808: Napoleon sends the French marshal Joachim Murat to lead an army in Spain > May 2, 1808: Unsuccessful Spanish revolt against French army under Murat > June 4, 1808: Napoleon names Joseph Bonaparte King of Spain, and Murat King of Naples > December 15, 1809: Divorces Josephine > April 2, 1810: Marries Marie-Louise, Archduchess of Austria > March 20, 1811: Napoleon's son born, referred to as the " King of Rome " > June 24, 1812: Russian Campaign begins > September 14, 1812: Grand Army enters Moscow to find the city abandoned and set aflame by the inhabitants; retreating in the midst of a frigid winter, the army suffers devastating losses > December 18, 1812: Napoleon returns to Paris > March 17, 1813: Prussia declares war on France > June 21, 1813: The French fall to Spain in the Battle of Vitoria > January 1814: Anti-French coalition army enters France > March 30-31, 1814: Paris falls > April 2, 1814: Senate proclaims end of the Empire; Napoleon's wife and son flee Paris. > April 4, 1814: Napoleon abdicates his rule and Louis XVIII, a Bourbon, is restored to the French throne > May 4, 1814: Napoleon is exiled to Elba; his wife and son take refuge in Vienna > March 1, 1815: Escaping Elba, Napoleon returns in South France > March 7, 1815: Napoleon rallies the French army > March 20, 1815: Louis XVIII flees, Napoleon takes control, begins " Hundred Days " campaign > June 18, 1815: Defeated in the Battle of Waterloo by the British and Prussians, led by Wellington and Blucher > June 22, 1815: Abdicates for the second time > October 16, 1815: Napoleon is exiled to Saint Helena > March 5, 1821: Napoleon dies > Source: David Frawley, Astrology of the Seers, 1980. > > > > > > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Dear Shayn, One more thing, you mention the Rahu period. This is an interesting additional element, in that for Hitler Rahu was placed in H9, which is associated with Jupiter in the natural zodiac, while Napoleon had Rahu in H3, adding to the authoritarian impulse. Interestingly, Rahu afflicted natally in the chart of Napoleon but not in the chart of Hitler. Around the time the Ju/Ju period was to begin for Napoleon, he had himself crowned emperor both of France (1804) and Italy (1805). L3 Jupiter is on ascending degree! Napoleon died in August 1821 just after the Sa/Sa period began (and Ju/Ra had passed). Hitler died in Ra/Ve period. His Venus was afflicted by Ketu in H3. He and his new wife shot themselves in April 1945 as the Soviet army overran Berlin. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear Shayn, > > As I understand this rule, the authoritarian impulse is associated > with H3 and L3. This is the key element. What I am then considering > is the general indication of this planet as L3, to gauge if it is > important to explain the expression of the authoritarian impulse. > Based on my understanding of the guidance of the > general indication is important. I just expanded on that insight, > with reference to the charts of the two rulers in Europe best known > in modern times for having attempted to unite Europe and made much > headway with that before being beaten back and defeated.In other > words. Jupiter as L3 gave the impulse to control but its general > indication put the emphasis on controlling a large area or to expand > the empire. > > As regards Rahu, you bring up an interesting and relevant point that > when Rahu is intertwined in such natal influences, its influence, as > always, is to give a strong desire of a selfish nature that compels > for underhanded means, including deception or worse, in order to gain > the desire. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > > SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@> wrote: > > > > Dear Thor, > > Also note that in these two charts, wars were waged during a Rahu > main period. Rahu always wants more and is never satisfied. In both > cases, Rahu has some connection to H3. > > > > > > Warm regards, > > Shayn > > > > > > > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@> > > samva > > Friday, December 7, 2007 6:02:47 PM > > Rule for Dictatorship > > > > Dear friends > > > > Recently, gave us the following rule for > Dictatorship. > > > > RULE FOR DICTATORSHIP > > In the mundane chart look for > > > > as prime influence: > > L1, L10 or L3 in H3 > > > > or L3 influencing H1 or H10, especially if L3 happens to be Sun > (Gemini rising) or Mars (Aquarius rising) > > > > as additional influence: > > L6 in H1, H3 or H4 > > > > It is interesting to study charts of rulers and military leaders > with an eye to this rule. > > > > 1. Napoleon Bonaparte has 24° Libra rising (15 August 1769, 11:30 > AM, Ajaccio, Corsica). > > - L1 Venus is strong in Gemini H9 giving him a lut of luck in life, > not least through women. > > - L3 Jupiter is conjunct the ascending degree. Here is a prime > example of the " rule for the dictatorship " . > > - L7 mars is well placed on H11 MEP, giving his military impulse. > > - L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 in close opposition with L10 Moon in > Capricorn H4. This aspect gave him a pronounced strategic ability. > > - Rahu in Sagittarius H3 aspects his infant L11 Sun in Leo H11. His > father died penniless and NB became an enemy of the monarchies of > Europe, who plotted against him. There are rumours he died from > arsenic poisoning, administered by his English court-appointed doctor. > > > > 2. Adolph Hitler had 1° Libra rising (20 April 1889, 18:00, Braunau- > an-Im, Austria). > > - 3 planets, including L3 Jupiter, are in H3. This is another good > example of the " rule of dictatorship " . > > - L11 Sun is exalted in Aries H7 widely conjunct L12 Mercury > > - L1 Venus was conjunct L7 Mars in Aries H7 under aspect from L5 > Saturn in Cancer H10 but also Ketu in H3. > > > > Notice the similarities with the chart for Napoleon? > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > Biographical timeline for Napoleon Bonaparte: > > August 15, 1769: Napoleon Bonaparte born in Ajaccio, Corsica. > > May 17, 1779: Napoleon begins study at the royal military academy > > October 17: 1784: Enrolls in the Ecole Militaire > > 24 Feb 1785: Napoleon´s father, Carlo BONAPARTE (born on 29 Mar > 1746), dies, penniless, likely from stomach cancer. Described as " A > political opportunist, social climber and probable hedonist. " The > above is consistent with Rahu closely afflicting Sun in Napoleon´s > chart. > > October 28, 1785: Graduates from Ecole Militaire with the rank of > second lieutenant in the artillery. > > November 3, 1785: Stationed in Valence > > July 14, 1789: Paris mob storms the Bastille > > May-October, 1792: While in Paris with his regiment, Napoleon > witnesses the storming of the Tuileries Palace and the dethroning of > the French King, Louis XVI. > > June 13, 1793: Accused of being too pro-French, Napoleon and his > family flee their household in Corsica > > December 22, 1793: For his courage at an internal French battle at > Toulon, Napoleon receives the new rank of brigadier general > > August 9-20, 1794: Napoleon is imprisoned under suspicion of being > a Jacobin and a supporter of Robespierre > > June 13, 1795: Napoleon is promoted to General of the Army of the > West > > October 5, 1795: The government assigns Napoleon the task of > suppressing civil strife and rebellion against the Republic > > October 15, 1785: At the home of Paul Francois Barras, ay > member, Napoleon meets Rose de Beauharnais (Josephine) > > October 16, 1785: Barras helps Napoleon win promotion to Commander > of the Army of the Interior > > March 2, 1786: Napoleon is given command of the French army in > Italy > > March 9, 1796: Napoleon marries Josephine > > March 11, 1796: Italian campaign against Austria begins > > May 10, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Lodi > > November 17, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Arcole > > January 14, 1797: Napoleon wins the Battle of Rivoli > > October 17, 1797: Napoleon draws up the Treaty of Campo-Formio with > Austria > > December 5, 1797: He returns to Paris a hero > > May 19, 1798: Napoleon begins his Egyptian campaign > > July 2, 1798: Fall of Alexandria > > July 21, 1798: Wins Battle of the Pyramids against Mamelukes in > Egypt > > July 24, 1798: Fall of Cairo > > August 1, 1798: Under the command of Admiral Nelson, the British > fleet destroys the French navy in the Battle of Aboukir > > August 23, 1799: Receiving news of turmoil in France, Napoleon > returns to Paris > > November 9-10, 1799: Following a coup d'etat, Napoleon becomes > First Consul of the new French government > > February 19, 1800: Sets up a household in Tuileries Palace > > May 20, 1800: Napoleon leads his army across the Alps in the Second > Italian Campaign > > June 14, 1800: Wins Battle of Marengo against Austria > > February 9, 1800: Treaty with Austria signed at Luneville > > July 15, 1801: Signing of the Concordat between France and Rome > ends schism between the French government and the Catholic Church > > December 24, 1801: Napoleon escapes an assassination attempt > > March 25, 1802: Treaty of Amiens signed with Britain > > May 1, 1802: Napoleon restructures French educational system > > August 4, 1802: New constitution adopted, making Napoleon First > Consul for life > > May 3, 1803: France sells Louisiana territory to U.S. > > May 16, 1803: England violates Treaty of Amiens > > May 18, 1804: Senate proclaims Napoleon Emperor > > December 2, 1804: Napoleon crowns himself Emperor in Notre-Dame > Cathedral, Paris > > March 17, 1805: Napoleon is crowned king of Italy in Milan > > October 21, 1805: The Battle of Trafalgar marks yet another naval > defeat to the British under the command of Admiral Nelson > > December 2, 1805: Victory in the Battle of Austerlitz against > Austria and Russia > > March 30, 1806: Napoleon names his brother, Joseph Bonaparte, king > of Naples, and appoints other family members to various other posts > > June 14, 1807: Defeats the Russians at the Battle of Friedland > > July 7, 1807: Czar Alexander I makes peace with Napoleon in the > Treaty of Tilsit > > July 22, 1807: Napoleon creates the Grand Duchy of Warsaw (Poland), > to be overseen by France > > November 30, 1807: Beginning of French occupation of Portugal > > February 20, 1808: Napoleon sends the French marshal Joachim Murat > to lead an army in Spain > > May 2, 1808: Unsuccessful Spanish revolt against French army under > Murat > > June 4, 1808: Napoleon names Joseph Bonaparte King of Spain, and > Murat King of Naples > > December 15, 1809: Divorces Josephine > > April 2, 1810: Marries Marie-Louise, Archduchess of Austria > > March 20, 1811: Napoleon's son born, referred to as the " King of > Rome " > > June 24, 1812: Russian Campaign begins > > September 14, 1812: Grand Army enters Moscow to find the city > abandoned and set aflame by the inhabitants; retreating in the midst > of a frigid winter, the army suffers devastating losses > > December 18, 1812: Napoleon returns to Paris > > March 17, 1813: Prussia declares war on France > > June 21, 1813: The French fall to Spain in the Battle of Vitoria > > January 1814: Anti-French coalition army enters France > > March 30-31, 1814: Paris falls > > April 2, 1814: Senate proclaims end of the Empire; Napoleon's wife > and son flee Paris. > > April 4, 1814: Napoleon abdicates his rule and Louis XVIII, a > Bourbon, is restored to the French throne > > May 4, 1814: Napoleon is exiled to Elba; his wife and son take > refuge in Vienna > > March 1, 1815: Escaping Elba, Napoleon returns in South France > > March 7, 1815: Napoleon rallies the French army > > March 20, 1815: Louis XVIII flees, Napoleon takes control, > begins " Hundred Days " campaign > > June 18, 1815: Defeated in the Battle of Waterloo by the British > and Prussians, led by Wellington and Blucher > > June 22, 1815: Abdicates for the second time > > October 16, 1815: Napoleon is exiled to Saint Helena > > March 5, 1821: Napoleon dies > > Source: David Frawley, Astrology of the Seers, 1980. > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Dear friends, Another famous dictator of the last century was Benito Mussolini of Italy. Interestingly, he also had Libra rising (29 July 1883, 13:10, Predappio, Italy, asc. 16° Libra). While he has only indirect indications of authoritarianism and thus less pronounced than for Napoleon and Hitler, other placements made up for it. - L3 Jupiter is conjunct L1 Venus in H9 - Ketu in H7 aspects (a vacant) H3 - Rahu is conjunct ascendant - L11 Sun is conjunct H10 MEP and L12 Mercury Mussolin rose to power in the Jupiter major period and was the first of a new breed of authoritarian rulers to emerge in Europe after WWI. As a fascist, Mussolini allied himself with Hitler (Germany) and Japan - the axis powers - in WWII. He initiated military incursions into Africa. While Italy did not take as active a role in the second world war as the Germans and Japanes, the country was invaded by the allied forces and Mussolini was captured and executed towards the end of the war. Best wishes, Thor Cosmologer <cosmologersamva Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2007 1:02:47 AM Rule for Dictatorship Dear friends Recently, gave us the following rule for Dictatorship. RULE FOR DICTATORSHIP In the mundane chart look for as prime influence: L1, L10 or L3 in H3 or L3 influencing H1 or H10, especially if L3 happens to be Sun (Gemini rising) or Mars (Aquarius rising) as additional influence: L6 in H1, H3 or H4 It is interesting to study charts of rulers and military leaders with an eye to this rule. 1. Napoleon Bonaparte has 24° Libra rising (15 August 1769, 11:30 AM, Ajaccio, Corsica). - L1 Venus is strong in Gemini H9 giving him a lut of luck in life, not least through women. - L3 Jupiter is conjunct the ascending degree. Here is a prime example of the "rule for the dictatorship". - L7 mars is well placed on H11 MEP, giving his military impulse. - L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 in close opposition with L10 Moon in Capricorn H4. This aspect gave him a pronounced strategic ability. - Rahu in Sagittarius H3 aspects his infant L11 Sun in Leo H11. His father died penniless and NB became an enemy of the monarchies of Europe, who plotted against him. There are rumours he died from arsenic poisoning, administered by his English court-appointed doctor. 2. Adolph Hitler had 1° Libra rising (20 April 1889, 18:00, Braunau-an-Im, Austria). - 3 planets, including L3 Jupiter, are in H3. This is another good example of the "rule of dictatorship". - L11 Sun is exalted in Aries H7 widely conjunct L12 Mercury - L1 Venus was conjunct L7 Mars in Aries H7 under aspect from L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 but also Ketu in H3. Notice the similarities with the chart for Napoleon? Best wishes, Thor Biographical timeline for Napoleon Bonaparte:August 15, 1769: Napoleon Bonaparte born in Ajaccio, Corsica. May 17, 1779: Napoleon begins study at the royal military academy October 17: 1784: Enrolls in the Ecole Militaire 24 Feb 1785: Napoleon´s father, Carlo BONAPARTE (born on 29 Mar 1746), dies, penniless, likely from stomach cancer. Described as "A political opportunist, social climber and probable hedonist." The above is consistent with Rahu closely afflicting Sun in Napoleon´s chart. October 28, 1785: Graduates from Ecole Militaire with the rank of second lieutenant in the artillery. November 3, 1785: Stationed in Valence July 14, 1789: Paris mob storms the Bastille May-October, 1792: While in Paris with his regiment, Napoleon witnesses the storming of the Tuileries Palace and the dethroning of the French King, Louis XVI. June 13, 1793: Accused of being too pro-French, Napoleon and his family flee their household in Corsica December 22, 1793: For his courage at an internal French battle at Toulon, Napoleon receives the new rank of brigadier general August 9-20, 1794: Napoleon is imprisoned under suspicion of being a Jacobin and a supporter of Robespierre June 13, 1795: Napoleon is promoted to General of the Army of the West October 5, 1795: The government assigns Napoleon the task of suppressing civil strife and rebellion against the Republic October 15, 1785: At the home of Paul Francois Barras, a Directory member, Napoleon meets Rose de Beauharnais (Josephine) October 16, 1785: Barras helps Napoleon win promotion to Commander of the Army of the Interior March 2, 1786: Napoleon is given command of the French army in Italy March 9, 1796: Napoleon marries Josephine March 11, 1796: Italian campaign against Austria begins May 10, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Lodi November 17, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Arcole January 14, 1797: Napoleon wins the Battle of Rivoli October 17, 1797: Napoleon draws up the Treaty of Campo-Formio with Austria December 5, 1797: He returns to Paris a hero May 19, 1798: Napoleon begins his Egyptian campaign July 2, 1798: Fall of Alexandria July 21, 1798: Wins Battle of the Pyramids against Mamelukes in Egypt July 24, 1798: Fall of Cairo August 1, 1798: Under the command of Admiral Nelson, the British fleet destroys the French navy in the Battle of Aboukir August 23, 1799: Receiving news of turmoil in France, Napoleon returns to Paris November 9-10, 1799: Following a coup d'etat, Napoleon becomes First Consul of the new French government February 19, 1800: Sets up a household in Tuileries Palace May 20, 1800: Napoleon leads his army across the Alps in the Second Italian Campaign June 14, 1800: Wins Battle of Marengo against Austria February 9, 1800: Treaty with Austria signed at Luneville July 15, 1801: Signing of the Concordat between France and Rome ends schism between the French government and the Catholic Church December 24, 1801: Napoleon escapes an assassination attempt March 25, 1802: Treaty of Amiens signed with Britain May 1, 1802: Napoleon restructures French educational system August 4, 1802: New constitution adopted, making Napoleon First Consul for life May 3, 1803: France sells Louisiana territory to U.S. May 16, 1803: England violates Treaty of Amiens May 18, 1804: Senate proclaims Napoleon Emperor December 2, 1804: Napoleon crowns himself Emperor in Notre-Dame Cathedral, Paris March 17, 1805: Napoleon is crowned king of Italy in Milan October 21, 1805: The Battle of Trafalgar marks yet another naval defeat to the British under the command of Admiral Nelson December 2, 1805: Victory in the Battle of Austerlitz against Austria and Russia March 30, 1806: Napoleon names his brother, Joseph Bonaparte, king of Naples, and appoints other family members to various other posts June 14, 1807: Defeats the Russians at the Battle of Friedland July 7, 1807: Czar Alexander I makes peace with Napoleon in the Treaty of Tilsit July 22, 1807: Napoleon creates the Grand Duchy of Warsaw (Poland), to be overseen by France November 30, 1807: Beginning of French occupation of Portugal February 20, 1808: Napoleon sends the French marshal Joachim Murat to lead an army in Spain May 2, 1808: Unsuccessful Spanish revolt against French army under Murat June 4, 1808: Napoleon names Joseph Bonaparte King of Spain, and Murat King of Naples December 15, 1809: Divorces Josephine April 2, 1810: Marries Marie-Louise, Archduchess of Austria March 20, 1811: Napoleon's son born, referred to as the "King of Rome" June 24, 1812: Russian Campaign begins September 14, 1812: Grand Army enters Moscow to find the city abandoned and set aflame by the inhabitants; retreating in the midst of a frigid winter, the army suffers devastating losses December 18, 1812: Napoleon returns to Paris March 17, 1813: Prussia declares war on France June 21, 1813: The French fall to Spain in the Battle of Vitoria January 1814: Anti-French coalition army enters France March 30-31, 1814: Paris falls April 2, 1814: Senate proclaims end of the Empire; Napoleon's wife and son flee Paris. April 4, 1814: Napoleon abdicates his rule and Louis XVIII, a Bourbon, is restored to the French throne May 4, 1814: Napoleon is exiled to Elba; his wife and son take refuge in Vienna March 1, 1815: Escaping Elba, Napoleon returns in South France March 7, 1815: Napoleon rallies the French army March 20, 1815: Louis XVIII flees, Napoleon takes control, begins "Hundred Days" campaign June 18, 1815: Defeated in the Battle of Waterloo by the British and Prussians, led by Wellington and Blucher June 22, 1815: Abdicates for the second time October 16, 1815: Napoleon is exiled to Saint Helena March 5, 1821: Napoleon dies Source: David Frawley, Astrology of the Seers, 1980. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Thank you, dear Thor.. David Hawthorne SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Cosmologer Saturday, December 08, 2007 5:46 PM SAMVA Re: Rule for Dictatorship Dear friends, Another famous dictator of the last century was Benito Mussolini of Italy. Interestingly, he also had Libra rising (29 July 1883, 13:10, Predappio, Italy, asc. 16° Libra). While he has only indirect indications of authoritarianism and thus less pronounced than for Napoleon and Hitler, other placements made up for it. - L3 Jupiter is conjunct L1 Venus in H9 - Ketu in H7 aspects (a vacant) H3 - Rahu is conjunct ascendant - L11 Sun is conjunct H10 MEP and L12 Mercury Mussolin rose to power in the Jupiter major period and was the first of a new breed of authoritarian rulers to emerge in Europe after WWI. As a fascist, Mussolini allied himself with Hitler (Germany) and Japan - the axis powers - in WWII. He initiated military incursions into Africa. While Italy did not take as active a role in the second world war as the Germans and Japanes, the country was invaded by the allied forces and Mussolini was captured and executed towards the end of the war. Best wishes, Thor Cosmologer <cosmologer samva Saturday, December 8, 2007 1:02:47 AM Rule for Dictatorship Dear friends Recently, gave us the following rule for Dictatorship. RULE FOR DICTATORSHIP In the mundane chart look for as prime influence: L1, L10 or L3 in H3 or L3 influencing H1 or H10, especially if L3 happens to be Sun (Gemini rising) or Mars (Aquarius rising) as additional influence: L6 in H1, H3 or H4 It is interesting to study charts of rulers and military leaders with an eye to this rule. 1. Napoleon Bonaparte has 24° Libra rising (15 August 1769, 11:30 AM, Ajaccio, Corsica). - L1 Venus is strong in Gemini H9 giving him a lut of luck in life, not least through women. - L3 Jupiter is conjunct the ascending degree. Here is a prime example of the " rule for the dictatorship " . - L7 mars is well placed on H11 MEP, giving his military impulse. - L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 in close opposition with L10 Moon in Capricorn H4. This aspect gave him a pronounced strategic ability. - Rahu in Sagittarius H3 aspects his infant L11 Sun in Leo H11. His father died penniless and NB became an enemy of the monarchies of Europe, who plotted against him. There are rumours he died from arsenic poisoning, administered by his English court-appointed doctor. 2. Adolph Hitler had 1° Libra rising (20 April 1889, 18:00, Braunau-an-Im, Austria). - 3 planets, including L3 Jupiter, are in H3. This is another good example of the " rule of dictatorship " . - L11 Sun is exalted in Aries H7 widely conjunct L12 Mercury - L1 Venus was conjunct L7 Mars in Aries H7 under aspect from L5 Saturn in Cancer H10 but also Ketu in H3. Notice the similarities with the chart for Napoleon? Best wishes, Thor Biographical timeline for Napoleon Bonaparte: August 15, 1769: Napoleon Bonaparte born in Ajaccio, Corsica. May 17, 1779: Napoleon begins study at the royal military academy October 17: 1784: Enrolls in the Ecole Militaire 24 Feb 1785: Napoleon´s father, Carlo BONAPARTE (born on 29 Mar 1746), dies, penniless, likely from stomach cancer. Described as " A political opportunist, social climber and probable hedonist. " The above is consistent with Rahu closely afflicting Sun in Napoleon´s chart. October 28, 1785: Graduates from Ecole Militaire with the rank of second lieutenant in the artillery. November 3, 1785: Stationed in Valence July 14, 1789: Paris mob storms the Bastille May-October, 1792: While in Paris with his regiment, Napoleon witnesses the storming of the Tuileries Palace and the dethroning of the French King, Louis XVI. June 13, 1793: Accused of being too pro-French, Napoleon and his family flee their household in Corsica December 22, 1793: For his courage at an internal French battle at Toulon, Napoleon receives the new rank of brigadier general August 9-20, 1794: Napoleon is imprisoned under suspicion of being a Jacobin and a supporter of Robespierre June 13, 1795: Napoleon is promoted to General of the Army of the West October 5, 1795: The government assigns Napoleon the task of suppressing civil strife and rebellion against the Republic October 15, 1785: At the home of Paul Francois Barras, a Directory member, Napoleon meets Rose de Beauharnais (Josephine) October 16, 1785: Barras helps Napoleon win promotion to Commander of the Army of the Interior March 2, 1786: Napoleon is given command of the French army in Italy March 9, 1796: Napoleon marries Josephine March 11, 1796: Italian campaign against Austria begins May 10, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Lodi November 17, 1796: Napoleon wins the Battle of Arcole January 14, 1797: Napoleon wins the Battle of Rivoli October 17, 1797: Napoleon draws up the Treaty of Campo-Formio with Austria December 5, 1797: He returns to Paris a hero May 19, 1798: Napoleon begins his Egyptian campaign July 2, 1798: Fall of Alexandria July 21, 1798: Wins Battle of the Pyramids against Mamelukes in Egypt July 24, 1798: Fall of Cairo August 1, 1798: Under the command of Admiral Nelson, the British fleet destroys the French navy in the Battle of Aboukir August 23, 1799: Receiving news of turmoil in France, Napoleon returns to Paris November 9-10, 1799: Following a coup d'etat, Napoleon becomes First Consul of the new French government February 19, 1800: Sets up a household in Tuileries Palace May 20, 1800: Napoleon leads his army across the Alps in the Second Italian Campaign June 14, 1800: Wins Battle of Marengo against Austria February 9, 1800: Treaty with Austria signed at Luneville July 15, 1801: Signing of the Concordat between France and Rome ends schism between the French government and the Catholic Church December 24, 1801: Napoleon escapes an assassination attempt March 25, 1802: Treaty of Amiens signed with Britain May 1, 1802: Napoleon restructures French educational system August 4, 1802: New constitution adopted, making Napoleon First Consul for life May 3, 1803: France sells Louisiana territory to U.S. May 16, 1803: England violates Treaty of Amiens May 18, 1804: Senate proclaims Napoleon Emperor December 2, 1804: Napoleon crowns himself Emperor in Notre-Dame Cathedral, Paris March 17, 1805: Napoleon is crowned king of Italy in Milan October 21, 1805: The Battle of Trafalgar marks yet another naval defeat to the British under the command of Admiral Nelson December 2, 1805: Victory in the Battle of Austerlitz against Austria and Russia March 30, 1806: Napoleon names his brother, Joseph Bonaparte, king of Naples, and appoints other family members to various other posts June 14, 1807: Defeats the Russians at the Battle of Friedland July 7, 1807: Czar Alexander I makes peace with Napoleon in the Treaty of Tilsit July 22, 1807: Napoleon creates the Grand Duchy of Warsaw (Poland), to be overseen by France November 30, 1807: Beginning of French occupation of Portugal February 20, 1808: Napoleon sends the French marshal Joachim Murat to lead an army in Spain May 2, 1808: Unsuccessful Spanish revolt against French army under Murat June 4, 1808: Napoleon names Joseph Bonaparte King of Spain, and Murat King of Naples December 15, 1809: Divorces Josephine April 2, 1810: Marries Marie-Louise, Archduchess of Austria March 20, 1811: Napoleon's son born, referred to as the " King of Rome " June 24, 1812: Russian Campaign begins September 14, 1812: Grand Army enters Moscow to find the city abandoned and set aflame by the inhabitants; retreating in the midst of a frigid winter, the army suffers devastating losses December 18, 1812: Napoleon returns to Paris March 17, 1813: Prussia declares war on France June 21, 1813: The French fall to Spain in the Battle of Vitoria January 1814: Anti-French coalition army enters France March 30-31, 1814: Paris falls April 2, 1814: Senate proclaims end of the Empire; Napoleon's wife and son flee Paris. April 4, 1814: Napoleon abdicates his rule and Louis XVIII, a Bourbon, is restored to the French throne May 4, 1814: Napoleon is exiled to Elba; his wife and son take refuge in Vienna March 1, 1815: Escaping Elba, Napoleon returns in South France March 7, 1815: Napoleon rallies the French army March 20, 1815: Louis XVIII flees, Napoleon takes control, begins " Hundred Days " campaign June 18, 1815: Defeated in the Battle of Waterloo by the British and Prussians, led by Wellington and Blucher June 22, 1815: Abdicates for the second time October 16, 1815: Napoleon is exiled to Saint Helena March 5, 1821: Napoleon dies Source: David Frawley, Astrology of the Seers, 1980. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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