Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Dear friends, This is the reported voting outcome of the Iowa caucuses DEMOCRATS Barack Obama, IL Senator: 38 percent John Edwards, NC Senator: 30 percent Hillary Clinton, NY Senator/wife of Bill Clinton: 29 percent sub-total: 97 percent of vote remaining 3 percent went to: Joe Biden, DE Senator (withdrew) Chris Dodd, CT Senator (withdrew) Bill Richardson, NM Governor (continues) REPUBLICANS Mike Huckabee, former AK Governor/pastor: 34 percent Mitt Romney, former MA Governor: 25 percent Fred Thompson, former TN Senator/lawyer/actor: 13 percent, John McCain, AZ Senator: 13 percent Ron Paul, TX Congressman/former medical doctor: 10 percent Rudy Giuliani, former NY Mayor: 4 percent (did not campaign) sub-total 99 percent of vote The primary will be held on February 5, 2008. It is the so- called " Super Tuesday " primaries. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Attached are the charts of Barack Obama and Mike Huckabee. > > There seems to be some agreement on the Libra rising chart for Obama among US astrologers but so far no birth time has emerged for Huckabee only the date and place of his birth. > > For lack of better information, I submit a Leo rising chart for Huckabee, with Sun on the rising degree, suggesting a ruling nature and a developed soul, although I have limited information for that selection. This ascendant would better explain the win in the Republican caucus. Another possibility is Cancer rising for Huckabee placing Jupiter on the MEP. This configuration would suggest a religious attitude, but also one being adamant in views. > > The win by Obama appears to be consistent with his chart. > > We may keep in mind what suggested on the list on Nov. 24, 2007: > " The planetary position in November 2008 is quite difficult for US but the elections may not be cancelled or postponed. > > US Presidential candidates with Cancer or Taurus or Capricorn rising will have almost no chance of winning the elections. One with Leo, Libra or Saggitarius rising stands a better chance. " > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > Huckabee, Obama have huge night in Iowa > Story Highlights > Sens. Chris Dodd and Joe Biden drop out of race > Polls: Huckabee earns support of evangelicals, women > Democratic race a debate between change, experience, CNN analyst says > Huckabee vastly outspent by Romney, who poured millions of dollars into campaign > > DES MOINES, Iowa (CNN) -- Barack Obama and Mike Huckabee have claimed victories in Iowa's first-in-the-nation caucuses > > Sen. Barack Obama says the night was a " defining moment in history. " > > With all Democratic precincts reporting, Obama had the support of 38 percent of voters, compared to 30 percent for John Edwards and 29 percent for Hillary Clinton. > " The numbers tell us this was a debate between change and experience, and change won, " said CNN political analyst Bill Schneider. > Iowa delivered fatal blows to the campaigns of Sen. Chris Dodd of Connecticut and Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware. Both have decided to abandon their White House runs. > New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who finished fourth, said his campaign plans to " take the fight to New Hampshire. " > New Hampshire holds the nation's first primary Tuesday. > Clinton and Obama are in a statistical dead heat in New Hampshire, according to the latest CNN/WMUR poll. > On the GOP side, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, whose campaign was languishing six months ago, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney are now tied for first place in New Hampshire, according to the poll, which was released Wednesday. > McCain left Iowa before caucus night even began. He was already in New Hampshire by Thursday afternoon, trying to get a jump on his rivals. > For the winners of both party's caucuses in Iowa, it's an age revolt for Democrats versus a religious revolt for Republicans, Schneider said. > Among Democrats, Obama took 57 percent of the under-30 vote, according to CNN's analysis of entrance polls. Watch Obama celebrate his victory > Speaking to supporters, Obama called the night a " defining moment in history. " > " You came together as Democrats, Republicans and independents to stand up and say that we are one nation, we are one people and our time for change has come. " Huckabee's victory can be attributed to his overwhelming support among evangelical voters and women, the polls indicate. > With 92 percent of Republican precincts reporting, Huckabee, former governor of Arkansas, had the support of 34 percent of voters, compared to 25 percent for Romney. Fred Thompson had 13 percent, McCain had 13 percent and Ron Paul had 10 percent. Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has turned the focus of his campaign to the February 5 " Super Tuesday " primaries, trailed with 4 percent. > " We've paid a lot of attention to states that some other candidates haven't paid a lot of attention to, " Giuliani said, adding, " Time will tell what the best strategy is. " > Huckabee was vastly outspent by Romney, who poured millions of dollars into a sophisticated get-out-the-vote operation. > " People really are more important than the purse, and what a great lesson for America to learn, " Huckabee said in thanking his supporters. For most of 2007, Huckabee languished in the single digits in the polls and had very little success raising money. But his momentum picked up in the final six weeks of the year when social conservatives -- an important voting bloc in Iowa -- began to move his way. > " We won the silver ... You win the silver in one event. It doesn't mean you're not going to come back and win the gold in the final event, and that we are going to do, " Romney said. > Clinton, speaking with 96 percent of the vote in, portrayed herself as the candidate who could bring about the change the voters want. > " I am so ready for the rest of this campaign, and I am so ready to lead, " she said. > Clinton had worked to convince Iowa caucus-goers she has the experience to enact change, while Edwards and Obama preached that she is too much of a Washington insider to bring change to the nation's capital. > Edwards, in a tight race for second, said Iowa's results show that " the status quo lost and change won. " > " Now we move on ... to determine who is best suited to bring about the changes this country so desperately needs, " he said. > McCain, who had largely abandoned Iowa to focus on the New Hampshire primary, said, " The lessons of tonight's election in Iowa are that one, you can't buy an election in Iowa; and two, that negative campaigns don't work. " With such a close race on both sides, voter turnout was key. The Iowa Democratic Party reported seeing record turnout. The party said there were at least 227,000 caucus attendees. The Iowa GOP projected that 120,000 people took part in the Republican caucuses.The Iowa Democratic Party said 124,000 people participated in the 2004 caucuses, while the Republican Party of Iowa estimated that 87,000 people took part in the 2000 caucuses. (President Bush ran unchallenged for a second term in 2004.) > Caucus-goer Kathy Barger, inside a Democratic caucus site in Walnut, Iowa, said the room she was in was packed to the brim with a line out the door. " I don't know how they are going to be able to fit everybody in the room, much less count the votes, " she said. " There are bodies in every available space in the room. " > The White House hopefuls campaigned down to the wire in Iowa, determined to reach as many people as possible before the 1,781 caucuses that started at 7 p.m. Iowa Democrats, unlike Republicans, use a more complicated system to determine a candidate's viability. Republican caucus-goers are asked for their support for a candidate only one time during the event. Democrats are asked twice: an initial question of support, and a second if their first-choice candidate does not reach a 15 percent threshold to achieve viability. > Among Republican candidates, Thompson, a former senator from Tennessee, and Rep. Duncan Hunter of California needed strong showings in Iowa to keep their campaigns going, while Paul, a representative from Texas, is likely to ride his surge of popularity through February 5 -- " Super Tuesday, " when 24 states hold their primaries -- no matter where he places in the early contests. > > > ____________________ ______________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Dear friends, In the following article, columnist Peggy Noonan offers a plausible description of the personality attributes of the main players that likely influenced the outcome. " Out With the Old, In With the New - Obama and Huckabee rise; Mrs. Clinton falls. " http://opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110011083 Barack Obama: Libra ascendant (August 4, 1961 at 1:06 PM or 1:15 PM in Honolulu, HI) John Edwards: Gemini (June 10, 1953 at 7:02 AM in Seneca, SC) Hillary Clinton: Gemini or Libra (born October 26, 1947 Chicago, IL at 8:00 PM or 8:00 AM) Mike Huckabee: Cancer or Leo? Mitt Romney: Taurus Rudolph Giuliani: Leo (May 28, 1944, at 01:22:12 PM (+4), Brooklin, NY) " Sen. Obama, his victory is similarly huge. He won the five biggest counties in Iowa, from the center of the state to the South Dakota border. He carried the young in a tidal wave. He outpolled Mrs. Clinton among women. He did it with a classy campaign, an unruffled manner, and an appeal on the stump that said every day, through the lines: Look at who I am and see me, the change that you desire is right here, move on with me and we will bring it forward together. " Everyone said Mike Huckabee was a big dope to leave Iowa Wednesday to fly to L.A. to be on Jay Leno, but did you see him on that thing? He got off a perfect line on why he's doing well against Romney: " People are looking for a presidential candidate who reminds them more of the guy they work with rather than the guy that laid them off. " The studio audience loved him. And you know, in Iowa they watch " The Tonight Show " too. " Mr. Huckabee likes to head-fake people into thinking he's Gomer Pyle, but he's more like the barefoot boy of the green room. He's more James Carville than Jim Nabors. What we have learned about Mr. Huckabee the past few months is that he's an ace entertainer with a warm, witty and compelling persona. He won with no money and little formal organization, with an evangelical network, with a folksy manner, and with the best guileless pose in modern politics. " Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear friends, > > This is the reported voting outcome of the Iowa caucuses > > DEMOCRATS > Barack Obama, IL Senator: 38 percent > John Edwards, NC Senator: 30 percent > Hillary Clinton, NY Senator/wife of Bill Clinton: 29 percent > sub-total: 97 percent of vote > > remaining 3 percent went to: > Joe Biden, DE Senator (withdrew) > Chris Dodd, CT Senator (withdrew) > Bill Richardson, NM Governor (continues) > > REPUBLICANS > Mike Huckabee, former AK Governor/pastor: 34 percent > Mitt Romney, former MA Governor: 25 percent > Fred Thompson, former TN Senator/lawyer/actor: 13 percent, > John McCain, AZ Senator: 13 percent > Ron Paul, TX Congressman/former medical doctor: 10 percent > Rudy Giuliani, former NY Mayor: 4 percent (did not campaign) > sub-total 99 percent of vote > > The primary will be held on February 5, 2008. It is the so- > called " Super Tuesday " primaries. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Attached are the charts of Barack Obama and Mike Huckabee. > > > > There seems to be some agreement on the Libra rising chart for > Obama among US astrologers but so far no birth time has emerged for > Huckabee only the date and place of his birth. > > > > For lack of better information, I submit a Leo rising chart for > Huckabee, with Sun on the rising degree, suggesting a ruling nature > and a developed soul, although I have limited information for that > selection. This ascendant would better explain the win in the > Republican caucus. Another possibility is Cancer rising for Huckabee > placing Jupiter on the MEP. This configuration would suggest a > religious attitude, but also one being adamant in views. > > > > The win by Obama appears to be consistent with his chart. > > > > We may keep in mind what suggested on the list > on Nov. 24, 2007: > > " The planetary position in November 2008 is quite difficult for US > but the elections may not be cancelled or postponed. > > > > US Presidential candidates with Cancer or Taurus or Capricorn > rising will have almost no chance of winning the elections. One with > Leo, Libra or Saggitarius rising stands a better chance. " > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > Huckabee, Obama have huge night in Iowa > > Story Highlights > > Sens. Chris Dodd and Joe Biden drop out of race > > Polls: Huckabee earns support of evangelicals, women > > Democratic race a debate between change, experience, CNN analyst > says > > Huckabee vastly outspent by Romney, who poured millions of dollars > into campaign > > > > DES MOINES, Iowa (CNN) -- Barack Obama and Mike Huckabee have > claimed victories in Iowa's first-in-the-nation caucuses > > > > Sen. Barack Obama says the night was a " defining moment in > history. " > > > > With all Democratic precincts reporting, Obama had the support of > 38 percent of voters, compared to 30 percent for John Edwards and 29 > percent for Hillary Clinton. > > " The numbers tell us this was a debate between change and > experience, and change won, " said CNN political analyst Bill > Schneider. > > Iowa delivered fatal blows to the campaigns of Sen. Chris Dodd of > Connecticut and Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware. Both have decided to > abandon their White House runs. > > New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who finished fourth, said his > campaign plans to " take the fight to New Hampshire. " > > New Hampshire holds the nation's first primary Tuesday. > > Clinton and Obama are in a statistical dead heat in New Hampshire, > according to the latest CNN/WMUR poll. > > On the GOP side, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, whose campaign was > languishing six months ago, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney > are now tied for first place in New Hampshire, according to the poll, > which was released Wednesday. > > McCain left Iowa before caucus night even began. He was already in > New Hampshire by Thursday afternoon, trying to get a jump on his > rivals. > > For the winners of both party's caucuses in Iowa, it's an age > revolt for Democrats versus a religious revolt for Republicans, > Schneider said. > > Among Democrats, Obama took 57 percent of the under-30 vote, > according to CNN's analysis of entrance polls. Watch Obama celebrate > his victory > > Speaking to supporters, Obama called the night a " defining moment > in history. " > > " You came together as Democrats, Republicans and independents to > stand up and say that we are one nation, we are one people and our > time for change has come. " Huckabee's victory can be attributed to > his overwhelming support among evangelical voters and women, the > polls indicate. > > With 92 percent of Republican precincts reporting, Huckabee, former > governor of Arkansas, had the support of 34 percent of voters, > compared to 25 percent for Romney. Fred Thompson had 13 percent, > McCain had 13 percent and Ron Paul had 10 percent. Former New York > Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has turned the focus of his campaign to the > February 5 " Super Tuesday " primaries, trailed with 4 percent. > > " We've paid a lot of attention to states that some other candidates > haven't paid a lot of attention to, " Giuliani said, adding, " Time > will tell what the best strategy is. " > > Huckabee was vastly outspent by Romney, who poured millions of > dollars into a sophisticated get-out-the-vote operation. > > " People really are more important than the purse, and what a great > lesson for America to learn, " Huckabee said in thanking his > supporters. For most of 2007, Huckabee languished in the single > digits in the polls and had very little success raising money. But > his momentum picked up in the final six weeks of the year when social > conservatives -- an important voting bloc in Iowa -- began to move > his way. > > " We won the silver ... You win the silver in one event. It doesn't > mean you're not going to come back and win the gold in the final > event, and that we are going to do, " Romney said. > > Clinton, speaking with 96 percent of the vote in, portrayed herself > as the candidate who could bring about the change the voters want. > > " I am so ready for the rest of this campaign, and I am so ready to > lead, " she said. > > Clinton had worked to convince Iowa caucus-goers she has the > experience to enact change, while Edwards and Obama preached that she > is too much of a Washington insider to bring change to the nation's > capital. > > Edwards, in a tight race for second, said Iowa's results show > that " the status quo lost and change won. " > > " Now we move on ... to determine who is best suited to bring about > the changes this country so desperately needs, " he said. > > McCain, who had largely abandoned Iowa to focus on the New > Hampshire primary, said, " The lessons of tonight's election in Iowa > are that one, you can't buy an election in Iowa; and two, that > negative campaigns don't work. " With such a close race on both sides, > voter turnout was key. The Iowa Democratic Party reported seeing > record turnout. The party said there were at least 227,000 caucus > attendees. The Iowa GOP projected that 120,000 people took part in > the Republican caucuses.The Iowa Democratic Party said 124,000 people > participated in the 2004 caucuses, while the Republican Party of Iowa > estimated that 87,000 people took part in the 2000 caucuses. > (President Bush ran unchallenged for a second term in 2004.) > > Caucus-goer Kathy Barger, inside a Democratic caucus site in > Walnut, Iowa, said the room she was in was packed to the brim with a > line out the door. " I don't know how they are going to be able to > fit everybody in the room, much less count the votes, " she > said. " There are bodies in every available space in the room. " > > The White House hopefuls campaigned down to the wire in Iowa, > determined to reach as many people as possible before the 1,781 > caucuses that started at 7 p.m. Iowa Democrats, unlike Republicans, > use a more complicated system to determine a candidate's viability. > Republican caucus-goers are asked for their support for a candidate > only one time during the event. Democrats are asked twice: an initial > question of support, and a second if their first-choice candidate > does not reach a 15 percent threshold to achieve viability. > > Among Republican candidates, Thompson, a former senator from > Tennessee, and Rep. Duncan Hunter of California needed strong > showings in Iowa to keep their campaigns going, while Paul, a > representative from Texas, is likely to ride his surge of popularity > through February 5 -- " Super Tuesday, " when 24 states hold their > primaries -- no matter where he places in the early contests. > > > > > > > ____________________ > ______________ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Search. > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php? category=shopping > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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