request for birth data of USA presidential contenders

[Guest guest]

Dear Friends,

 

Can someone post a message with the most likely birth data of the

major USA presidential contenders in one message?

 

Thanks & best wishes,

Jonathan

[Guest guest]

Dear Jonathan,

 

Here is a link I found in the message archives of SAMVA list:

 

http://www.councilVedic Astrology.org/featured_article_0107.htm

 

I have shared a message earlier with the group to that extent, but

can´t find it. To search the message archives or the links on the

SAMVA web psge (in e.g. birth information data bases) you may be able

to find additional data.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

SAMVA , " Dr. Jonathan Miller " <menlha

wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> Can someone post a message with the most likely birth data of the

> major USA presidential contenders in one message?

>

> Thanks & best wishes,

> Jonathan

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Thor

 

You previously posted the below regarding birth times of presidential

candidates.

 

Ben

 

SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

 

Dear friends,

For those interested in predicting likely winners in political

contests I share with you some information I have garnered about the

birth times of the many candidates involved.

 

Republican candidates for the US Presidency in 2008

• Mitt Romney, Governor of Massachusetts, March 12, 1947, 9:50 am est

Detroit MI, source bc.

• Sam Brownback - Sep 12, 1956 Garnett, KS

• Rudy Giuliani - May 28, 1944 11:52 am EWT Brooklyn, NY (source

unknown)

Asc. 4 Leo (approx.) (JT chart file attached).

• Mike Huckabee - Aug 24, 1955 Hope, Arkansas

• Duncan Hunter - May 31, 1948 Riverside, CA

• John McCain - Aug 29, 1936 9:00 am Panama Canal zone, Panama

• Ron Paul - Aug 20, 1935 Pittsburgh, PA

• Tom Tancredo - Dec 20, 1945 Denver, CO

• Fred Dalton Thompson - Aug 19, 1942 Sheffield, Alabama

 

Democratic candidates for the US Presidency in 2008

• Joe Biden* b.20 Nov 1942 in Scranton, PA at 8:30am (filed w/ FEC on

31 Jan 2007)

• Hillary Clinton b.26 Oct 1947 in Chicago, IL at 8am (JT chart file

attached) (some think 8pm)

• Christopher Dodd* b.27 May 1944 in Willimantic, CT 22:30 (Rodden

rating C - unreliable). Called in to announce/Imus radio show 11 Jan

2007 c.7:45am EST. Made formal announcement in Hartford, CT 19 Jan

2007

• John Edwards* b.10 Jun 1953 in Seneca, SC at 7:02am. (chart file

attched in JT format).

Announced 27 Dec 2006 online. Official announcement 28 Dec 2006 in

New Orleans, LA • Mike Gravel* b.13 May 1930 in Springfield, MA

(time?). Announced 17 Apr 2006 in Washington, DC.

• Dennis Kucinich* b.8 Oct 1946 in Cleveland, OH at 5:53pm. Announced

11 Dec 2006 in Cleveland, OH

• Barack Obama* b.4 Aug 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, with suggested

times including 1:04pm, 1:06pm or 8:39am. (Diana Rosenberg wrote that

she got a time from Frances McEvoy who got it from " someone " who met

him in New Hampshire and said his birth time is 1:06 pm). Asc 24°

Libra based on 1:06 pm time (JT chart file attached). Announced 10

Feb 2007 in Springfield, IL at 10:13am

• Bill Richardson b.15 Nov 1947 in Pasadena, CA at 11:35 am (Rodden

Rating: AA). Announced 21 Jan 2007 on This Week w/ George

Stephanopoulos

 

List members are invited to share further information, should they

have it, concerning the actual birth times of likely contenders.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

 

SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote:

>

> Dear Jonathan,

>

> Here is a link I found in the message archives of SAMVA list:

>

> http://www.councilVedic Astrology.org/featured_article_0107.htm

>

> I have shared a message earlier with the group to that extent, but

> can´t find it. To search the message archives or the links on the

> SAMVA web psge (in e.g. birth information data bases) you may be

able

> to find additional data.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

>

> SAMVA , " Dr. Jonathan Miller " <menlha@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> >

> > Can someone post a message with the most likely birth data of the

> > major USA presidential contenders in one message?

> >

> > Thanks & best wishes,

> > Jonathan

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ben,

 

Thanks for pointing this out.

 

Hopefully Jonathan can use this information and perhaps he will share with us some insights into the candidates charts and their chances of earning the nomination. Elections can serve as a great motivator and opportunity to better understand the charts of politicians that go on to become world leaders.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

searchbutton <searchbuttonSAMVA Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 6:43:42 PM Re: request for birth data of USA presidential contendersDear ThorYou previously posted the below regarding birth times of presidential candidates.BenSAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:Dear friends, For those interested in predicting likely winners in politicalcontests I share with you some information I have garnered about thebirth times of the many candidates involved. Republican candidates for the US Presidency in 2008• Mitt Romney, Governor of Massachusetts, March 12, 1947, 9:50 am estDetroit MI,

source bc.• Sam Brownback - Sep 12, 1956 Garnett, KS• Rudy Giuliani - May 28, 1944 11:52 am EWT Brooklyn, NY (sourceunknown)Asc. 4 Leo (approx.) (JT chart file attached). • Mike Huckabee - Aug 24, 1955 Hope, Arkansas• Duncan Hunter - May 31, 1948 Riverside, CA• John McCain - Aug 29, 1936 9:00 am Panama Canal zone, Panama• Ron Paul - Aug 20, 1935 Pittsburgh, PA• Tom Tancredo - Dec 20, 1945 Denver, CO• Fred Dalton Thompson - Aug 19, 1942 Sheffield, Alabama Democratic candidates for the US Presidency in 2008• Joe Biden* b.20 Nov 1942 in Scranton, PA at 8:30am (filed w/ FEC on31 Jan 2007)• Hillary Clinton b.26 Oct 1947 in Chicago, IL at 8am (JT chart fileattached) (some think 8pm)• Christopher Dodd* b.27 May 1944 in Willimantic, CT 22:30 (Roddenrating C - unreliable). Called in to announce/Imus radio show 11 Jan2007 c.7:45am EST. Made formal

announcement in Hartford, CT 19 Jan2007• John Edwards* b.10 Jun 1953 in Seneca, SC at 7:02am. (chart fileattched in JT format).Announced 27 Dec 2006 online. Official announcement 28 Dec 2006 inNew Orleans, LA • Mike Gravel* b.13 May 1930 in Springfield, MA(time?). Announced 17 Apr 2006 in Washington, DC.• Dennis Kucinich* b.8 Oct 1946 in Cleveland, OH at 5:53pm. Announced11 Dec 2006 in Cleveland, OH• Barack Obama* b.4 Aug 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, with suggestedtimes including 1:04pm, 1:06pm or 8:39am. (Diana Rosenberg wrote thatshe got a time from Frances McEvoy who got it from "someone" who methim in New Hampshire and said his birth time is 1:06 pm). Asc 24°Libra based on 1:06 pm time (JT chart file attached). Announced 10Feb 2007 in Springfield, IL at 10:13am• Bill Richardson b.15 Nov 1947 in Pasadena, CA at 11:35 am (RoddenRating: AA). Announced 21 Jan 2007 on This Week w/

GeorgeStephanopoulos List members are invited to share further information, should theyhave it, concerning the actual birth times of likely contenders. Best wishes, ThorSAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer wrote:>> Dear Jonathan,> > Here is a link I found in the message archives of SAMVA list:> > http://www.councilVedic Astrology.org/featured_article_0107.htm> > I have shared a message earlier with the group to that extent, but > can´t find it. To search the message archives or the links on the > SAMVA web psge (in e.g. birth information data bases) you may be able > to find additional data. >

> Best wishes,> > Thor> > > SAMVA , "Dr. Jonathan Miller" <menlha@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > > > Can someone post a message with the most likely birth data of the > > major USA presidential contenders in one message?> > > > Thanks & best wishes,> > Jonathan> >>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Ben and Thor,

 

Thank you very much.

 

Jonathan

 

 

SAMVA , " searchbutton " <searchbutton wrote:

>

> Dear Thor

>

> You previously posted the below regarding birth times of

presidential

> candidates.

>

> Ben

>

> SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

> For those interested in predicting likely winners in political

> contests I share with you some information I have garnered about the

> birth times of the many candidates involved.

>

> Republican candidates for the US Presidency in 2008

> • Mitt Romney, Governor of Massachusetts, March 12, 1947, 9:50 am

est

> Detroit MI, source bc.

> • Sam Brownback - Sep 12, 1956 Garnett, KS

> • Rudy Giuliani - May 28, 1944 11:52 am EWT Brooklyn, NY (source

> unknown)

> Asc. 4 Leo (approx.) (JT chart file attached).

> • Mike Huckabee - Aug 24, 1955 Hope, Arkansas

> • Duncan Hunter - May 31, 1948 Riverside, CA

> • John McCain - Aug 29, 1936 9:00 am Panama Canal zone, Panama

> • Ron Paul - Aug 20, 1935 Pittsburgh, PA

> • Tom Tancredo - Dec 20, 1945 Denver, CO

> • Fred Dalton Thompson - Aug 19, 1942 Sheffield, Alabama

>

> Democratic candidates for the US Presidency in 2008

> • Joe Biden* b.20 Nov 1942 in Scranton, PA at 8:30am (filed w/ FEC

on

> 31 Jan 2007)

> • Hillary Clinton b.26 Oct 1947 in Chicago, IL at 8am (JT chart file

> attached) (some think 8pm)

> • Christopher Dodd* b.27 May 1944 in Willimantic, CT 22:30 (Rodden

> rating C - unreliable). Called in to announce/Imus radio show 11 Jan

> 2007 c.7:45am EST. Made formal announcement in Hartford, CT 19 Jan

> 2007

> • John Edwards* b.10 Jun 1953 in Seneca, SC at 7:02am. (chart file

> attched in JT format).

> Announced 27 Dec 2006 online. Official announcement 28 Dec 2006 in

> New Orleans, LA • Mike Gravel* b.13 May 1930 in Springfield, MA

> (time?). Announced 17 Apr 2006 in Washington, DC.

> • Dennis Kucinich* b.8 Oct 1946 in Cleveland, OH at 5:53pm.

Announced

> 11 Dec 2006 in Cleveland, OH

> • Barack Obama* b.4 Aug 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, with suggested

> times including 1:04pm, 1:06pm or 8:39am. (Diana Rosenberg wrote

that

> she got a time from Frances McEvoy who got it from " someone " who met

> him in New Hampshire and said his birth time is 1:06 pm). Asc 24°

> Libra based on 1:06 pm time (JT chart file attached). Announced 10

> Feb 2007 in Springfield, IL at 10:13am

> • Bill Richardson b.15 Nov 1947 in Pasadena, CA at 11:35 am (Rodden

> Rating: AA). Announced 21 Jan 2007 on This Week w/ George

> Stephanopoulos

>

> List members are invited to share further information, should they

> have it, concerning the actual birth times of likely contenders.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

>

>

> SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jonathan,

> >

> > Here is a link I found in the message archives of SAMVA list:

> >

> > http://www.councilVedic Astrology.org/featured_article_0107.htm

> >

> > I have shared a message earlier with the group to that extent,

but

> > can´t find it. To search the message archives or the links on the

> > SAMVA web psge (in e.g. birth information data bases) you may be

> able

> > to find additional data.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Thor

> >

> >

> > SAMVA , " Dr. Jonathan Miller " <menlha@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Friends,

> > >

> > > Can someone post a message with the most likely birth data of

the

> > > major USA presidential contenders in one message?

> > >

> > > Thanks & best wishes,

> > > Jonathan

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear SAMVA members "Ron Paul - Aug 20, 1935 Pittsburgh, PA" is locationally, roughly correct. Ron Paul was born at the Borough of Green Tree, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. Green Tree is a suburb, southwest, of Pittsbugh. John"Dr. Jonathan Miller" <menlha wrote: Dear Ben and Thor,Thank you very much.JonathanSAMVA , "searchbutton" <searchbutton wrote:>> Dear Thor> > You previously posted the below regarding birth times of presidential > candidates.> > Ben> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:> > Dear friends,> For those interested in predicting likely winners in political> contests I share with you some information I have garnered about the> birth times of the many candidates involved.> > Republican candidates for the US Presidency in 2008> • Mitt Romney, Governor of Massachusetts, March 12, 1947, 9:50 am est> Detroit MI, source bc.> • Sam Brownback - Sep 12, 1956 Garnett, KS> • Rudy Giuliani - May 28, 1944 11:52 am EWT Brooklyn, NY (source> unknown)>

Asc. 4 Leo (approx.) (JT chart file attached).> • Mike Huckabee - Aug 24, 1955 Hope, Arkansas> • Duncan Hunter - May 31, 1948 Riverside, CA> • John McCain - Aug 29, 1936 9:00 am Panama Canal zone, Panama> • Ron Paul - Aug 20, 1935 Pittsburgh, PA> • Tom Tancredo - Dec 20, 1945 Denver, CO> • Fred Dalton Thompson - Aug 19, 1942 Sheffield, Alabama> > Democratic candidates for the US Presidency in 2008> • Joe Biden* b.20 Nov 1942 in Scranton, PA at 8:30am (filed w/ FEC on> 31 Jan 2007)> • Hillary Clinton b.26 Oct 1947 in Chicago, IL at 8am (JT chart file> attached) (some think 8pm)> • Christopher Dodd* b.27 May 1944 in Willimantic, CT 22:30 (Rodden> rating C - unreliable). Called in to announce/Imus radio show 11 Jan> 2007 c.7:45am EST. Made formal announcement in Hartford, CT 19 Jan> 2007> • John Edwards* b.10 Jun 1953 in Seneca, SC at 7:02am. (chart

file> attched in JT format).> Announced 27 Dec 2006 online. Official announcement 28 Dec 2006 in> New Orleans, LA • Mike Gravel* b.13 May 1930 in Springfield, MA> (time?). Announced 17 Apr 2006 in Washington, DC.> • Dennis Kucinich* b.8 Oct 1946 in Cleveland, OH at 5:53pm. Announced> 11 Dec 2006 in Cleveland, OH> • Barack Obama* b.4 Aug 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, with suggested> times including 1:04pm, 1:06pm or 8:39am. (Diana Rosenberg wrote that> she got a time from Frances McEvoy who got it from "someone" who met> him in New Hampshire and said his birth time is 1:06 pm). Asc 24°> Libra based on 1:06 pm time (JT chart file attached). Announced 10> Feb 2007 in Springfield, IL at 10:13am> • Bill Richardson b.15 Nov 1947 in Pasadena, CA at 11:35 am (Rodden> Rating: AA). Announced 21 Jan 2007 on This Week w/ George> Stephanopoulos> > List members are

invited to share further information, should they> have it, concerning the actual birth times of likely contenders.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > > > SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> wrote:> >> > Dear Jonathan,> > > > Here is a link I found in the message archives of SAMVA list:> > > > http://www.councilVedic Astrology.org/featured_article_0107.htm> > > > I have shared a message earlier with the group to that extent, but > > can´t find it. To search the message archives or the links on the > > SAMVA web psge (in e.g. birth information data bases) you may be > able > > to find additional data. > > >

> Best wishes,> > > > Thor> > > > > > SAMVA , "Dr. Jonathan Miller" <menlha@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > Can someone post a message with the most likely birth data of the > > > major USA presidential contenders in one message?> > > > > > Thanks & best wishes,> > > Jonathan> > >> >> & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on."--- U.S. President George W. Bush, speaking at a Gridiron Club dinner, Washington, D.C., March 2001 "Honest Abe" was the moniker given to Abraham Lincoln by his early associates and later

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