Saturn and Hillary Clinton

[Guest guest]

Dear List,

 

Hillary Clinton along with Barak Obama are the two contenders for the U.S. Democratic Presidential nod. Two birth times have been suggested for Hillary, one for 8am the other for 8pm. (data for the candidates charts have been given in earlier SAMVA posts).

 

The 8pm chart shows that she just entered a Rahu subperiod yesterday which will run the rest of the course of her campaign. In her natal chart, the Rahu-Ketu axis directly influences her old-aged natal Mercury. By the end of March, the transiting nodal axis will begin to influence her old-aged natal Saturn, placed in the 2nd house of status and ruler of the 9th house of good fortune. Saturn also acts as the Sun in this 8pm chart. This influence becomes exact late May and could spell problems for her and her campaign when the nodes slow from July-September. This transit could cause some strife during the Democratic National Convention in late August. A transit Jupiter to transit Saturn aspect in early September may help a little but things may not lighten up until the nodes separate completely from Saturn in early October.

 

Interestingly, Saturn figures in again if we cast her chart for 8:00am. She would be in a Saturn subperiod which would again highlight the transit nodal influence. Natal Saturn is weakened by old age, weak dispositor, and an afflicted MT house. This chart would also present difficulties as the nodes station near the MEPS of her even-numbered houses.

 

Warm regards,Shayn

[Guest guest]

Dear Shayn,

 

Thanks for the analysis of these two chart. In my post of Jan 6,

2008, I found the Gemini chart to give a good fit. However, it would

have to be tested with predictions. At that time, I made the

following analysis:

 

-----------------------

" Enclosed please find the 6° 41' Gemini rising chart of Hillary

Clinton. I don´t know how well established this chart is, but a

reading of it suggests it gives a good fit to her life. The Gemini

rising chart has many good placements but also some natal weaknesses.

Senator Clinton is running Su/Ma period until February 1, 2008 when

the Su/Ra period begins.

 

The sub-period lord, L11 Mars, is debilitated in Cancer H2 and is

joined there by L9 Saturn in old age. Mars is not weakened further in

navamsa chart, being exalted in H2 along with Rahu. It is really

helpful that the dispositor of Mars and Saturn, L2 Moon, is

favourably placed in H10 MEP. This placement signifies the great

status she enjoys in life as former first lady and Senator from the

great state of New York, as well as the royal living conditions given

the aspect on H4. The status is further helped by L7 Jupiter,

representing husband, being placed on H6 MEP, from where it aspects

her H2 and H10. The status of her husband further supports her own.

The placement of Jupiter also suggests the conflict surrounding and

long term reform battles involving her husband as President of the

USA.

 

L5 Venus is strongly placed in its own sign Libra H5 along with L3

Sun (debilitated) on H5 MEP and L4 Mercury (weak in old age) in H5.

 

The nodes are in H12 and H6 but do not afflict in the chart.

 

Given the many influneces linked to the planet Mars, its period would

be generally OK. However, given the natal weakness, it is liable to

transit afflictions. The ongoing transit affliction of Mars in H1 MEP

by Rahu in H9 MEP would have been quite difficult for her and

resulted in her third place finish in the Iowa caucuses.

 

The Rahu sub-period would not be expected to be that helpful to her

as Rahu is badly placed in H12 in the chart and especially after Rahu

enters H8 in transit in May of this year. "

 

Hillary Clinton

Oct 26, 1947 8:00 PM +06:00 CST

Chicago, IL:USA Longitude: 87W39 Latitude: 41N51

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:07 Current Period: SU/MA/VE

Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

================================================

Asc 06:41 Gem Ardra Ra

Sun 09:40 Lib +00:59:51 WK Swati Ra

Moon 06:03 Pis +12:46:40 ST U.Bhadra Sa

Mars 21:08 Can +00:30:49 WK Aslesha Me

MercR 28:11 Lib -00:11:12 WK Vishakha Ju

Jupt 07:29 Sco +00:12:34 WK Anuradha Sa

Ven 23:43 Lib +01:14:51 ST Vishakha Ju

Sat 28:12 Can +00:04:01 WK Aslesha Me

Rahu 00:24 Tau -00:03:14 FM Krittika Su

Ketu 00:24 Sco -00:03:14 FM Vishakha Ju

-----------------------

 

In short, while she has a good chart, it seems the timing is not on

her side this year.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote:

>

> Dear List,

>

> Hillary Clinton along with Barak Obama are the two contenders for

the U.S. Democratic Presidential nod. Two birth times have been

suggested for Hillary, one for 8am the other for 8pm. (data for the

candidates charts have been given in earlier SAMVA posts).

>

> The 8pm chart shows that she just entered a Rahu subperiod

yesterday which will run the rest of the course of her campaign. In

her natal chart, the Rahu-Ketu axis directly influences her old-aged

natal Mercury. By the end of March, the transiting nodal axis will

begin to influence her old-aged natal Saturn, placed in the 2nd house

of status and ruler of the 9th house of good fortune. Saturn also

acts as the Sun in this 8pm chart. This influence becomes exact late

May and could spell problems for her and her campaign when the nodes

slow from July-September. This transit could cause some strife

during the Democratic National Convention in late August. A transit

Jupiter to transit Saturn aspect in early September may help a little

but things may not lighten up until the nodes separate completely

from Saturn in early October.

>

> Interestingly, Saturn figures in again if we cast her chart for

8:00am. She would be in a Saturn subperiod which would again

highlight the transit nodal influence. Natal Saturn is weakened by

old age, weak dispositor, and an afflicted MT house. This chart would

also present difficulties as the nodes station near the MEPS of her

even-numbered houses.

>

> Warm regards,

> Shayn

>