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Dear Mr. Thor:As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA, the better days in US market have already started. One can see good gains during the months of April and May of 2008.Thank you for posting my message.Raj Chadha

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Dear Mr. Raj,

 

Please share the chart details and provide a brief overview of the

basic influences behind your prediction.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:

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> Dear Mr. Thor:

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> As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA,

the better days in US market have already started. One can see good

gains during the months of April and May of 2008.

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> Thank you for posting my message.

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> Raj Chadha

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> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

Try it now.

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Dear friends,

 

The US stock market is still highly volatile. It has fallen over 220 points since the open. This is seen clearly in the 20° Cancer rising SAMVA USA chart.

 

While the conjunction of transit 3rd lord Mercury and 4th lord Venus in Capricorn is quite benign and moreover, with these planets now also in an applying conjunction with natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, which would be helpful, there are many difficult aspects to contend with in the SAMVA USA chart:

 

- transit 2nd lord Sun at 16° Aquarius in the 8th house is now closely aspected by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. This is a transit often associated with disturbance in the stock market.

 

- transit Rahu in the 8th house aspects to transit Mars in the 12th house is still close even if separating. This aspect has been associated with the unease in the market, and especially the adverse development for industrial companies.

 

- transit 6th lord Jupiter at 21° 33' Sagittarius in the MEP of the 6th house and in applying conjunction to natal 4th lord Venus at 23° 51' Sagittarius. This aspect is having an impact to disturb sentiments and provoke concerns about the housing market.

 

- moreover, today, transit 1st lord Moon at 23° Scorpio in the 5th house, it is both debilitated and conjunct natal 8th lord Saturn in the SAMVA USA chart. This brief aspect is likely especially disturbing as transit Saturn at 10° 46' Leo and 2nd house is in an applying 10th house aspect to natal Moon at 7° 23' Taurus and 11th house of the chart. These aspects would be unsettling for the self-image of the country and the general sense of well being.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

Bloomberg

U.S. Stocks Decline on Economic Concern; AIG, Exxon Retreat

 

By Elizabeth Stanton

 

Feb. 29 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks tumbled after an industry report on U.S. business activity fell to the lowest level in seven years and UBS AG said losses in credits markets may reach as much as $600 billion.

 

American International Inc., the world's largest insurer, tumbled the most in two weeks after posting the biggest loss in its 89-year history. Financial shares slid to a five-week low after UBS said the fallout from the subprime mortgage market's collapse will be worse than expected and the National Association of Purchasing Management-Chicago said production and employment weakened. Exxon Mobil Corp. and Chevron Corp. led energy producers to their steepest decline since Feb. 5 after oil slipped from a record.

 

The Standard & Poor's 500 Index extended its fourth- straight monthly decline, dropping 23.55 points, or 1.7 percent, to 1,344.13 at 10:19 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average decreased 202.22, or 1.6 percent, to 12,379.96. The Nasdaq Composite Index lost 41.86, or 1.8 percent, to 2,289.71. About 11 stocks dropped for every one that rose on the New York Stock Exchange. Shares fell in Europe and Asia.

 

``There is certainly no shortage of negative news out there,'' Michael Magiera, senior analyst at Manning & Napier Advisors, which manages $17 billion in Fairport, New York, said in an interview on Bloomberg Television. ``It's going to be a little while before we work through some of this.''

 

The S & P 500 has dropped 2.3 percent in February on concern an economic slowdown will hurt profits. Earnings for S & P 500 companies will shrink 1.6 percent this quarter and 0.5 percent next, according to analysts' estimates compiled by Bloomberg.

 

$600 Billion

 

AIG tumbled $3.44 to $46.71. The insurer posted a fourth- quarter net loss of $5.29 billion, or $2.08 a share, after an $11.1 billion writedown on derivatives linked in part to subprime mortgages. AIG said it expects more writedowns this year. Excluding capital losses and the change in value of some derivatives, the company's loss was $1.25 a share, missing the 69-cent-profit average estimate of 17 analysts surveyed by Bloomberg.

 

Citigroup Inc., the largest U.S. bank, slid 60 cents to $24.41. Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the biggest securities firm, fell $2.84 to $173.86.

 

Credit-market losses will climb to at least $600 billion from $160 billion as investments funded with borrowed money are unwound, UBS credit strategist Geraud Charpin wrote in a note to clients.

 

`Cancer in This Market'

 

``Leveraged risk positions are a cancer in this market and the sooner it is treated the better,'' Charpin wrote. AIG's writedown ``is also the clearest indication that banks are not the only ones to suffer potential losses.''

 

Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Bear Stearns Cos. fell after Deutsche Bank AG analyst Michael Mayo forecast further writedowns of subprime assets and lowered first-quarter profit estimates for the firms. At least five other analysts have cut their first-quarter analysts for banks and brokers in the last two weeks. Lehman fell $1.73 to $52.95. Bear Stearns lost $1.29 to $82.93.

 

Ambac Financial Group Inc. fell 70 cents to $11.10 after CNBC reported that a deal to boost capital at the second-largest bond insurer hit a snag Feb. 27. The group of banks engaged in the bailout will come back with another proposal to keep Ambac together, the financial news network reported. CNBC cited people familiar with the situation.

 

Exxon Mobil and Chevron fell as crude oil retreated 98 cents to $101.61 a barrel and natural gas declined from a two- year high in New York. Exxon fell $1.62 to $87.76. Chevron lost $1.47 to $87.55.

 

Novell, Gap

 

Novell Inc. led the 18 S & P 500 stocks that rose, gaining 37 cents, or 5.7 percent, to $6.91. The second-biggest seller of Linux operating-system software in the U.S. reported a fiscal first-quarter profit that beat analysts' estimates after cutting costs by eliminating jobs and changing sales tactics. The company raised its full-year sales forecast.

 

Gap Inc. rose 92 cents to $20.37. The largest U.S. clothing retailer said fourth-quarter profit advanced for the first time in three years and forecast further gains this year after it sold more full-priced sweaters and jeans during the holiday season.

 

3Com Corp. jumped 55 cents, or 19 percent, to $3.46. Bain Capital LLC and Huawei Technologies Co. plan to reapply within several weeks for U.S. approval to acquire the networking systems and services provider for $2.2 billion, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.

 

Economy Watch

 

The National Association of Purchasing Management-Chicago said its business barometer dropped to 44.5 in February from 51.5 a month earlier. Figures less than 50 signal a contraction.

 

Consumer spending in the U.S. rose more than forecast in January, reflecting a jump in prices that is eroding buying power. The 0.4 percent rise in spending followed a revised 0.3 percent gain in December, the Commerce Department said. The Federal Reserve's preferred measure of inflation climbed 0.3 percent, the most in four months.

 

Yields on Treasury securities slid, sending the two-year note's under 1.8 percent for the first time since April 2004, as investors increased bets on interest-rate cuts by the Federal Reserve.

 

Interest-rate futures indicate traders for the first time assign a higher probability to a three-quarter-point cut than to a half-point cut at the Fed's next meeting on March 18. The odds of a three-quarter point cut implied by futures prices rose to 58 percent from 36 percent yesterday and 2 percent a week ago. The remaining bets are on a half-point cut.

 

The central bank has lowered its target for the overnight lending rate between banks five times since September, most recently to 3 percent on Jan. 30.

 

`Complications'

 

``The market has been of the belief that the Fed's aggressive easing action would relieve the pressures,'' said Henry Herrmann, president of Waddell & Reed Financial Inc., which manages $65 billion in Overland Park, Kansas. ``The complications are not diminishing, they're growing.''

 

Stocks tumbled yesterday after slower-than-forecast economic growth, rising jobless claims and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke's warning of possible failures among smaller banks deepened concern that the economy has tipped into a recession.

cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:14:17 PM Re: Better days in US marketsDear Mr. Raj,Please share the chart details and provide a brief overview of the basic influences behind your prediction.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:>> > > Dear Mr. Thor:> > As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA, the better days in US market have already started. One can see good gains during the months of April and May of 2008.> > Thank you for posting my message.> > Raj Chadha>

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Dear Thor, You are right, the recent downfall in US stock markets are clearly explainable with US samva chart, today i read a message from very senior Respected SA astrologer. I think if he has more clear chart of US than the present one, he should present it before SA community so that we all can analyse it.Thanks again Dear Thor for ur good analysis.ajay.Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear friends, The US stock market is still highly volatile. It has fallen over 220 points since the open. This is seen clearly in the 20° Cancer rising SAMVA USA chart. While the conjunction of transit 3rd lord Mercury and 4th lord Venus in Capricorn is quite benign and moreover, with these planets now also in an applying conjunction with natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, which would be helpful, there are many difficult aspects to

contend with in the SAMVA USA chart: - transit 2nd lord Sun at 16° Aquarius in the 8th house is now closely aspected by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. This is a transit often associated with disturbance in the stock market. - transit Rahu in the 8th house aspects to transit Mars in the 12th house is still close even if separating. This aspect has been associated with the unease in the market, and especially the adverse development for industrial companies. - transit 6th lord Jupiter at 21° 33'

Sagittarius in the MEP of the 6th house and in applying conjunction to natal 4th lord Venus at 23° 51' Sagittarius. This aspect is having an impact to disturb sentiments and provoke concerns about the housing market. - moreover, today, transit 1st lord Moon at 23° Scorpio in the 5th house, it is both debilitated and conjunct natal 8th lord Saturn in the SAMVA USA chart. This brief aspect is likely especially disturbing as transit Saturn at 10° 46' Leo and 2nd house is in an applying 10th house aspect to natal Moon at 7° 23' Taurus and 11th house of the chart. These aspects would be unsettling for the self-image of the country and the general sense

of well being. Best wishes, Thor Bloomberg U.S. Stocks Decline on Economic Concern; AIG, Exxon Retreat By Elizabeth Stanton Feb. 29 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks tumbled after an industry report on U.S. business activity fell to the lowest level in seven years and UBS AG said losses in credits markets may reach as much as $600 billion. American International Inc., the world's largest insurer, tumbled the most in two weeks after posting the biggest loss in its 89-year history. Financial shares slid to a five-week low after UBS said the fallout from the subprime mortgage market's collapse will be worse than expected and

the National Association of Purchasing Management-Chicago said production and employment weakened. Exxon Mobil Corp. and Chevron Corp. led energy producers to their steepest decline since Feb. 5 after oil slipped from a record. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index extended its fourth- straight monthly decline, dropping 23.55 points, or 1.7 percent, to 1,344.13 at 10:19 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average decreased 202.22, or 1.6 percent, to 12,379.96. The Nasdaq Composite Index lost 41.86, or 1.8 percent, to 2,289.71. About 11 stocks dropped for every one that rose on the New York Stock Exchange. Shares fell in Europe and Asia. ``There is certainly no shortage of negative news out there,'' Michael Magiera, senior analyst at Manning & Napier Advisors, which manages $17 billion in Fairport, New York, said in an interview on Bloomberg Television. ``It's going to be a little while before we work through some of this.'' The S & P 500 has dropped 2.3 percent in February on concern an economic slowdown will hurt profits. Earnings for S & P 500 companies will shrink 1.6 percent this quarter and 0.5 percent next, according to analysts' estimates compiled by Bloomberg. $600 Billion

AIG tumbled $3.44 to $46.71. The insurer posted a fourth- quarter net loss of $5.29 billion, or $2.08 a share, after an $11.1 billion writedown on derivatives linked in part to subprime mortgages. AIG said it expects more writedowns this year. Excluding capital losses and the change in value of some derivatives, the company's loss was $1.25 a share, missing the 69-cent-profit average estimate of 17 analysts surveyed by Bloomberg. Citigroup Inc., the largest U.S. bank, slid 60 cents to $24.41. Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the biggest securities firm, fell $2.84 to $173.86. Credit-market losses will climb to at least $600 billion from $160 billion as investments funded with borrowed money are unwound, UBS credit strategist Geraud Charpin wrote in a note to clients. `Cancer in This Market' ``Leveraged risk positions are a cancer in this market and the sooner it is treated the better,'' Charpin wrote. AIG's writedown ``is also the clearest indication that banks are not the only ones to suffer potential losses.''

Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Bear Stearns Cos. fell after Deutsche Bank AG analyst Michael Mayo forecast further writedowns of subprime assets and lowered first-quarter profit estimates for the firms. At least five other analysts have cut their first-quarter analysts for banks and brokers in the last two weeks. Lehman fell $1.73 to $52.95. Bear Stearns lost $1.29 to $82.93. Ambac Financial Group Inc. fell 70 cents to $11.10 after CNBC reported that a deal to boost capital at the second-largest bond insurer hit a snag Feb. 27. The group of banks engaged in the bailout will come back with another proposal

to keep Ambac together, the financial news network reported. CNBC cited people familiar with the situation. Exxon Mobil and Chevron fell as crude oil retreated 98 cents to $101.61 a barrel and natural gas declined from a two- year high in New York. Exxon fell $1.62 to $87.76. Chevron lost $1.47 to $87.55. Novell, Gap Novell Inc. led the 18 S & P 500 stocks that rose, gaining 37 cents, or 5.7 percent, to $6.91. The

second-biggest seller of Linux operating-system software in the U.S. reported a fiscal first-quarter profit that beat analysts' estimates after cutting costs by eliminating jobs and changing sales tactics. The company raised its full-year sales forecast. Gap Inc. rose 92 cents to $20.37. The largest U.S. clothing retailer said fourth-quarter profit advanced for the first time in three years and forecast further gains this year after it sold more full-priced sweaters and jeans during the holiday season. 3Com Corp. jumped 55 cents, or 19 percent, to $3.46. Bain Capital LLC and Huawei Technologies Co. plan to

reapply within several weeks for U.S. approval to acquire the networking systems and services provider for $2.2 billion, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter. Economy Watch The National Association of Purchasing Management-Chicago said its business barometer dropped to 44.5 in February from 51.5 a month earlier. Figures less than 50 signal a contraction. Consumer spending in the U.S. rose

more than forecast in January, reflecting a jump in prices that is eroding buying power. The 0.4 percent rise in spending followed a revised 0.3 percent gain in December, the Commerce Department said. The Federal Reserve's preferred measure of inflation climbed 0.3 percent, the most in four months. Yields on Treasury securities slid, sending the two-year note's under 1.8 percent for the first time since April 2004, as investors increased bets on interest-rate cuts by the Federal Reserve. Interest-rate futures indicate traders for the first time assign a higher probability to a three-quarter-point cut

than to a half-point cut at the Fed's next meeting on March 18. The odds of a three-quarter point cut implied by futures prices rose to 58 percent from 36 percent yesterday and 2 percent a week ago. The remaining bets are on a half-point cut. The central bank has lowered its target for the overnight lending rate between banks five times since September, most recently to 3 percent on Jan. 30. `Complications' ``The market has

been of the belief that the Fed's aggressive easing action would relieve the pressures,'' said Henry Herrmann, president of Waddell & Reed Financial Inc., which manages $65 billion in Overland Park, Kansas. ``The complications are not diminishing, they're growing.'' Stocks tumbled yesterday after slower-than-forecast economic growth, rising jobless claims and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke's warning of possible failures among smaller banks deepened concern that the economy has tipped into a recession. cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008

7:14:17 PM Re: Better days in US marketsDear Mr. Raj,Please share the chart details and provide a brief overview of the basic influences behind your prediction.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:>> > > Dear Mr. Thor:> > As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA, the better days in US market have already started. One can see good gains during the months of April and May of 2008.> > Thank you for posting my message.> > Raj Chadha> > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it

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Dear Thor:As I pointed out earlier I use solar return charts. My calculations are based on a USA chart which seem to give good results with SRC's, especially for stock market fluctuations. I have tested it as thoroughly as I can. It does not mean that anybody should accept it. The data for USA chart is 07/02/1776, 2:20-2:25PM, EST, Philadelphia. I use mean time 2:22:30.After calculating SRC, I interpret it with SA, not traditional Tajik methods. To understand the stock market fluctuations for the shorter periods I use condensed Vimshottri Dasha (1Year duration), not traditional Mudda dasha. I have tested all these out to my satisfaction, and to the point that I invest my own money based totally on this.I have great success with it. For example, the January 2008 debacle was very clear from the 2007 SRC. (07/06/07, 19:01:22 EST, Philly). With Sagittarius ascendant, MMP Moon is placed on 4H MEP. Its period ran from Dec 29, 07 to Jan 27, 08. Consequently

4H attributes such as real estate, banks, public finances suffered greatly through mortgage crisis. The basis of good April and May is that the period of Jupiter is coming, and Jupiter is aspected by strong Mars from 5H. Based on this I also think that Natural stocks are the place to be in during this period. I understand that SA people don't like SRC's, but I appreciate your generosity to accommodate my point of view on this board. It is up to the individual to like and use my ideas or totally disregard it.ThanksRaj Chadhacosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear Mr. Raj, Please share the chart details and provide a brief overview of the basic influences behind your prediction. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Thor: > > As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA, the better days in US market have already started. One can see good gains during the months of April and May of 2008. > > Thank you for posting my message. > > Raj Chadha > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. >

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Dear Ajay:I have provided my chart for USA in my earlier mail to Mr. Thor. You can analyse it as well. Here are the details once again. July 2, 1776, 2:20-2:25PM, EST, Philadelphia. Libra rising 16:27.Here is my analysis in brief:The economy of the USA (11L) is tied with wars (3L) in foreign countries (9H). It gets involved in foreign conflicts (Rahu ca 6H).Fluctuating wealth of the country (2H ca by Rahu & Moon opposite Mercury). Lawyers have big control (1L, 11L in 9H) in USA.It gets involved in wars easily and wins them (3H ca by 3L).Many attacks on its leaders (Sat ca Sun).Dominance on the world stage (strong Sun, Jup, Ven in Sun-like house). Many scientific discoveries (Gemini has strong planets).Many natural disasters (Ketu ca 8H, 12H).Oct stock market crashes (transit of Sun in Libra).Many violences in April (transit of Mercury in Aries).etc. etc.Please do more analysis yourself.Raj

Chadhaajay sehg <ajaysehg wrote: Dear Thor, You are right, the recent downfall in US stock markets are clearly explainable with US samva chart, today i read a message from very senior Respected SA astrologer. I think if he has more clear chart of US than the present one, he should present it before SA community so that we all can analyse it.Thanks again Dear Thor for ur good analysis.ajay.Cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote: Dear friends, The US stock market is still highly volatile. It has fallen over 220 points since the open. This is seen clearly in the 20° Cancer rising SAMVA USA chart. While the conjunction of transit 3rd lord Mercury and 4th lord Venus in Capricorn is quite benign and

moreover, with these planets now also in an applying conjunction with natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, which would be helpful, there are many difficult aspects to contend with in the SAMVA USA chart: - transit 2nd lord Sun at 16° Aquarius in the 8th house is now closely aspected by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. This is a transit often associated with disturbance in the stock market. - transit Rahu in the 8th house aspects to transit Mars in the 12th house is still close even if separating. This aspect has been associated with the unease in the market, and especially the adverse development for industrial

companies. - transit 6th lord Jupiter at 21° 33' Sagittarius in the MEP of the 6th house and in applying conjunction to natal 4th lord Venus at 23° 51' Sagittarius. This aspect is having an impact to disturb sentiments and provoke concerns about the housing market. - moreover, today, transit 1st lord Moon at 23° Scorpio in the 5th house, it is both debilitated and conjunct natal 8th lord Saturn in the SAMVA USA chart. This brief aspect is likely especially disturbing as transit Saturn at 10° 46' Leo and 2nd house is

in an applying 10th house aspect to natal Moon at 7° 23' Taurus and 11th house of the chart. These aspects would be unsettling for the self-image of the country and the general sense of well being. Best wishes, Thor Bloomberg U.S. Stocks Decline on Economic Concern; AIG, Exxon Retreat By Elizabeth Stanton Feb. 29 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks tumbled after an industry report on U.S. business activity fell to the lowest level in seven years and UBS AG said losses in credits markets may reach as much as $600 billion. American International

Inc., the world's largest insurer, tumbled the most in two weeks after posting the biggest loss in its 89-year history. Financial shares slid to a five-week low after UBS said the fallout from the subprime mortgage market's collapse will be worse than expected and the National Association of Purchasing Management-Chicago said production and employment weakened. Exxon Mobil Corp. and Chevron Corp. led energy producers to their steepest decline since Feb. 5 after oil slipped from a record. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index extended its fourth- straight monthly decline, dropping 23.55 points, or 1.7 percent, to 1,344.13 at 10:19 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average decreased 202.22, or 1.6 percent, to 12,379.96. The Nasdaq Composite Index lost 41.86, or 1.8 percent, to

2,289.71. About 11 stocks dropped for every one that rose on the New York Stock Exchange. Shares fell in Europe and Asia. ``There is certainly no shortage of negative news out there,'' Michael Magiera, senior analyst at Manning & Napier Advisors, which manages $17 billion in Fairport, New York, said in an interview on Bloomberg Television. ``It's going to be a little while before we work through some of this.'' The S & P 500 has dropped 2.3 percent in February on concern an economic slowdown will hurt profits. Earnings for S & P 500 companies will shrink 1.6 percent this quarter and

0.5 percent next, according to analysts' estimates compiled by Bloomberg. $600 Billion AIG tumbled $3.44 to $46.71. The insurer posted a fourth- quarter net loss of $5.29 billion, or $2.08 a share, after an $11.1 billion writedown on derivatives linked in part to subprime mortgages. AIG said it expects more writedowns this year. Excluding capital losses and the change in value of some derivatives, the company's loss was $1.25 a share, missing the 69-cent-profit average estimate of 17 analysts surveyed by Bloomberg. Citigroup Inc., the largest U.S. bank, slid 60 cents to $24.41. Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the biggest securities firm, fell $2.84 to $173.86. Credit-market losses will climb to at least $600 billion from $160 billion as investments funded with borrowed money are unwound, UBS credit strategist Geraud Charpin wrote in a note to clients. `Cancer in This Market' ``Leveraged risk positions are a cancer in this market and the sooner it is treated the better,'' Charpin wrote. AIG's writedown ``is also the clearest indication that banks are not the only ones to suffer potential losses.'' Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Bear Stearns Cos. fell after Deutsche Bank AG analyst Michael Mayo forecast further writedowns of subprime assets and lowered first-quarter profit estimates for the firms. At least five other analysts have cut their first-quarter analysts for banks and brokers in the last two weeks. Lehman fell $1.73 to $52.95. Bear Stearns lost $1.29 to $82.93. Ambac Financial Group Inc. fell 70 cents to $11.10 after CNBC reported that a deal to boost capital at the second-largest bond insurer hit a snag Feb. 27. The group of banks engaged in the bailout will come back with another proposal to keep Ambac together, the financial news network reported. CNBC cited people familiar with the situation. Exxon Mobil and Chevron fell as crude oil retreated 98 cents to $101.61 a barrel and natural gas declined from a two- year high in New York. Exxon fell $1.62 to $87.76. Chevron lost $1.47 to $87.55. Novell, Gap Novell Inc. led the 18 S & P 500 stocks that rose, gaining 37 cents, or 5.7 percent, to $6.91. The second-biggest seller of Linux operating-system software in the U.S. reported a fiscal first-quarter profit that beat analysts' estimates after cutting costs by eliminating jobs and changing sales tactics. The company raised its full-year sales forecast. Gap Inc. rose 92 cents to $20.37. The largest U.S. clothing retailer said fourth-quarter profit advanced for the first time in three years and forecast further gains

this year after it sold more full-priced sweaters and jeans during the holiday season. 3Com Corp. jumped 55 cents, or 19 percent, to $3.46. Bain Capital LLC and Huawei Technologies Co. plan to reapply within several weeks for U.S. approval to acquire the networking systems and services provider for $2.2 billion, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter. Economy Watch The National Association of Purchasing Management-Chicago said its business barometer dropped to 44.5 in February from 51.5 a month earlier. Figures less than 50 signal a contraction. Consumer spending in the U.S. rose more than forecast in January, reflecting a jump in prices that is eroding buying power. The 0.4 percent rise in spending followed a revised 0.3 percent gain in December, the Commerce Department said. The Federal Reserve's preferred measure of inflation climbed 0.3 percent, the most in four months. Yields on Treasury securities slid, sending the two-year note's under

1.8 percent for the first time since April 2004, as investors increased bets on interest-rate cuts by the Federal Reserve. Interest-rate futures indicate traders for the first time assign a higher probability to a three-quarter-point cut than to a half-point cut at the Fed's next meeting on March 18. The odds of a three-quarter point cut implied by futures prices rose to 58 percent from 36 percent yesterday and 2 percent a week ago. The remaining bets are on a half-point cut. The central bank has lowered its target for the overnight lending rate between banks five times since September,

most recently to 3 percent on Jan. 30. `Complications' ``The market has been of the belief that the Fed's aggressive easing action would relieve the pressures,'' said Henry Herrmann, president of Waddell & Reed Financial Inc., which manages $65 billion in Overland Park, Kansas. ``The complications are not diminishing, they're growing.'' Stocks tumbled yesterday after slower-than-forecast

economic growth, rising jobless claims and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke's warning of possible failures among smaller banks deepened concern that the economy has tipped into a recession. cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:14:17 PM Re: Better days in US marketsDear Mr. Raj,Please share the chart details and provide a brief overview of the basic influences behind your prediction.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:>> > > Dear Mr. Thor:> > As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it

with SA, the better days in US market have already started. One can see good gains during the months of April and May of 2008.> > Thank you for posting my message.> > Raj Chadha> > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.>

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Dear Raj,

 

As Vyas notes, the discussion on samva is focued on SA and new additions to it must be cleared by .

 

In the message you stated: "As per my calculations using my USA chart and ANALYSING IT WITH SA (emphasis mine), the better days in US market have already started."

 

Now you say "I USE SOLAR RETURN CHARTS" (emphasis mine). This is not as per SA. However, you then add SA analysis in your subsequent description.

 

To study the validity of a chart,

1) the natal potential needs to be studied with respect to the entity under question.

2) the chart must then be tested with a study of transit/period dynamics involved in significant events in the countries history.

3) the chart must then be tested with repeat successful predictions.

 

Only having cleared these hurdles can a chart be presented with confidence. This involves a lot of work. In short, verifiable evidence must be presented.

 

I studied the attached Libra rising chart based on 4 July 1776 from late 2000 until September 2001. It was not so easy to explain the 9/11 attacks with that chart. I then discarded it and continued looking for another authentic chart for the USA. I note that your 2 July Libra rising chart is similar to the the Libra rising chart explored by me. While the nodal axis was conjunct its natal Venus in the 9th house and Ve/Ra period was running at the time of the attack, the nodes were not stationary at the time. The transits where fleeting and hence would not have been expected to produce such an event that disturbs the country for a long time. Other significant events do not seem too convincing and certainly not as convincing as the SAMVA USA chart.

 

So, you have to ask yourself, ifs your predictive success is based on

a) an auhentic chart that meets all criteria mentioned above, or

b) good intution and judgement of financial conditions, or

c) add to b) good luck

 

That said, if you want to continue presenting evidence confirming the merits of your chart on SAMVA as per SA criteria, you are most welcome to do so.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

PS I have written an overview article...

 

 

Birth of a nation – a study of five major events in US history

 

 

There are five major events normally considered important for the formation of the USA as a nation. 1. Articles of Association in 17742. Declaration of Revolutionary War in 17753. Declaration of Independence in 1776 4. Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union in 17815. US Constitution in 1787

....which you may find of interest.

 

Raj Cgadha <rkctechSAMVA Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:36:31 PMRe: Re: Better days in US markets

Dear Thor:As I pointed out earlier I use solar return charts. My calculations are based on a USA chart which seem to give good results with SRC's, especially for stock market fluctuations. I have tested it as thoroughly as I can. It does not mean that anybody should accept it. The data for USA chart is 07/02/1776, 2:20-2:25PM, EST, Philadelphia. I use mean time 2:22:30.After calculating SRC, I interpret it with SA, not traditional Tajik methods. To understand the stock market fluctuations for the shorter periods I use condensed Vimshottri Dasha (1Year duration), not traditional Mudda dasha. I have tested all these out to my satisfaction, and to the point that I invest my own money based totally on this.I have great success with it. For example, the January 2008 debacle was very clear from the 2007 SRC. (07/06/07, 19:01:22 EST, Philly). With Sagittarius ascendant, MMP Moon is placed on 4H MEP. Its period ran from Dec 29, 07 to Jan

27, 08. Consequently 4H attributes such as real estate, banks, public finances suffered greatly through mortgage crisis. The basis of good April and May is that the period of Jupiter is coming, and Jupiter is aspected by strong Mars from 5H. Based on this I also think that Natural stocks are the place to be in during this period. I understand that SA people don't like SRC's, but I appreciate your generosity to accommodate my point of view on this board. It is up to the individual to like and use my ideas or totally disregard it.ThanksRaj Chadhacosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

 

 

Dear Mr. Raj,Please share the chart details and provide a brief overview of the basic influences behind your prediction.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech > wrote:>> > > Dear Mr. Thor:> > As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA, the better days in US market have already started. One can see good gains during the months of April and May of 2008.> > Thank you for posting my message.> > Raj Chadha> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.>

 

 

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Dear Raj and Ajay,

 

Allow me to comment on the placements in the chart.

 

I do so directly in the text by you in UPPER CASE.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

Raj Cgadha <rkctechSAMVA Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:58:06 PMRe: Re: Better days in US markets

Dear Ajay:I have provided my chart for USA in my earlier mail to Mr. Thor. You can analyse it as well. Here are the details once again. July 2, 1776, 2:20-2:25PM, EST, Philadelphia. Libra rising 16:27.Here is my analysis in brief:GLOBAL COMMENT: A BASIC REASON I LIKED THE LIBRA RISING CHART EXPLORED BY ME IN 2000/2001 WERE THE STRONG PLACEMENTS IN THE 9TH HOUSE. I THEREFORE UNDERSTAND YOUR IMPRESSION THAT THE CHART IS WORTHY OF A COUNTRY LIKE THE USA. THAT SAID, I FOUND THE SUITABLE STRENGTH AND APPROPRIATE NATAL POTENTIAL GREATER IN THE SAMVA USA CHART.

The economy of the USA (11L) is tied with wars (3L) in foreign countries (9H).

WAR IS LINKED TO THE 6TH HOUSE. THE PRESENCE OF 3RD LORD JUPITER AND 11TH LORD SUN IN THE MOST EFFECTIVE POINT OF THE 9TH HOUSE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO BOTH LORDS AND THE HOUSES INFLUENCED. THE OUTCOME, HOWEVER, WOULD NOT LEAD TO ARMED CONFLICTIt gets involved in foreign conflicts (Rahu ca 6H).

THIS IS A MORE PLAUSIBLE REASON FOR WAR.Fluctuating wealth of the country (2H ca by Rahu & Moon opposite Mercury).

THE MOON AS 10TH LORD IN ASPECT TO 12TH LORD, WOULD SUGGEST INVOLVEMENT IN FOREIGN TRADE, BASED ALSO ON NATURAL RESOURCES, FOOD, ETC. AS MOON IS FUNCTIONAL INDICATOR FOR THE EXECUTIVE GOVERNMENT, FOREIGN TRADE, THE FORTUNES OF THESE WOULD BE VERY VOLATILE DUE TO THE AFFLICTION OF NODES TO THE 10TH AND 4TH HOUSES.

Lawyers have big control (1L, 11L in 9H) in USA.VENUS IS UNAFFLICTED AND NOT IN MOST EFFECTIVE POINT OF THE 9TH HOUSE. SUN AS 11TH LORD INFLUENCES THE HOUSE. THE PLACEMENT OF SUN SUGGESTS GREAT WISDOM AND INFLUENCE IN THE WORLD.

It gets involved in wars easily and wins them (3H ca by 3L).

3RD HOUSE INDICATES INITIATIVE BUT NOT WARMany attacks on its leaders (Sat ca Sun).

SATURN IS 5TH LORD PLACED IN THE 12TH HOUSE. THIS SUGGESTS THE 5TH HOUSE INDICATIONS WOULD NOT PROSPER, EXCEPT ABROAD. THE ASPECT OF SATURN TO SUN WOULD NOT BE HARMFUL AS SATURN IS A FUNCTIONAL BENEFIC. Dominance on the world stage (strong Sun, Jup, Ven in Sun-like house).

YES, THIS WOULD BE CONSISTENT.Many scientific discoveries (Gemini has strong planets).

OKMany natural disasters (Ketu ca 8H, 12H).

OKOct stock market crashes (transit of Sun in Libra).

I ALSO ARGUED THIS IN AN ARTICLE IN 2001 - THE IDES OF OCTOBER - BASED ON THE SIMILAR LIBRA RISING CHART FOR TWO DAYS LATER.Many violences in April (transit of Mercury in Aries).

MARS IS A FUNCTIONAL BENEFIC AS 7TH LORD IN THE CHART. ITS TRANSIT THROUGH 9TH HOUSE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO ITS INDICATIONS.etc. etc.

?Please do more analysis yourself.Raj Chadhaajay sehg <ajaysehg wrote:

 

 

Dear Thor, You are right, the recent downfall in US stock markets are clearly explainable with US samva chart, today i read a message from very senior Respected SA astrologer. I think if he has more clear chart of US than the present one, he should present it before SA community so that we all can analyse it.Thanks again Dear Thor for ur good analysis.ajay.Cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear friends,

 

The US stock market is still highly volatile. It has fallen over 220 points since the open. This is seen clearly in the 20° Cancer rising SAMVA USA chart.

 

While the conjunction of transit 3rd lord Mercury and 4th lord Venus in Capricorn is quite benign and moreover, with these planets now also in an applying conjunction with natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, which would be helpful, there are many difficult aspects to contend with in the SAMVA USA chart:

 

- transit 2nd lord Sun at 16° Aquarius in the 8th house is now closely aspected by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. This is a transit often associated with disturbance in the stock market.

 

- transit Rahu in the 8th house aspects to transit Mars in the 12th house is still close even if separating. This aspect has been associated with the unease in the market, and especially the adverse development for industrial companies.

 

- transit 6th lord Jupiter at 21° 33' Sagittarius in the MEP of the 6th house and in applying conjunction to natal 4th lord Venus at 23° 51' Sagittarius. This aspect is having an impact to disturb sentiments and provoke concerns about the housing market.

 

- moreover, today, transit 1st lord Moon at 23° Scorpio in the 5th house, it is both debilitated and conjunct natal 8th lord Saturn in the SAMVA USA chart. This brief aspect is likely especially disturbing as transit Saturn at 10° 46' Leo and 2nd house is in an applying 10th house aspect to natal Moon at 7° 23' Taurus and 11th house of the chart. These aspects would be unsettling for the self-image of the country and the general sense of well being.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

Bloomberg

U.S. Stocks Decline on Economic Concern; AIG, Exxon Retreat

 

By Elizabeth Stanton

 

Feb. 29 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks tumbled after an industry report on U.S. business activity fell to the lowest level in seven years and UBS AG said losses in credits markets may reach as much as $600 billion.

 

American International Inc., the world's largest insurer, tumbled the most in two weeks after posting the biggest loss in its 89-year history. Financial shares slid to a five-week low after UBS said the fallout from the subprime mortgage market's collapse will be worse than expected and the National Association of Purchasing Management-Chicago said production and employment weakened. Exxon Mobil Corp. and Chevron Corp. led energy producers to their steepest decline since Feb. 5 after oil slipped from a record.

 

The Standard & Poor's 500 Index extended its fourth- straight monthly decline, dropping 23.55 points, or 1.7 percent, to 1,344.13 at 10:19 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average decreased 202.22, or 1.6 percent, to 12,379.96. The Nasdaq Composite Index lost 41.86, or 1.8 percent, to 2,289.71. About 11 stocks dropped for every one that rose on the New York Stock Exchange. Shares fell in Europe and Asia.

 

``There is certainly no shortage of negative news out there,'' Michael Magiera, senior analyst at Manning & Napier Advisors, which manages $17 billion in Fairport, New York, said in an interview on Bloomberg Television. ``It's going to be a little while before we work through some of this.''

 

The S & P 500 has dropped 2.3 percent in February on concern an economic slowdown will hurt profits. Earnings for S & P 500 companies will shrink 1.6 percent this quarter and 0.5 percent next, according to analysts' estimates compiled by Bloomberg.

 

$600 Billion

 

AIG tumbled $3.44 to $46.71. The insurer posted a fourth- quarter net loss of $5.29 billion, or $2.08 a share, after an $11.1 billion writedown on derivatives linked in part to subprime mortgages. AIG said it expects more writedowns this year. Excluding capital losses and the change in value of some derivatives, the company's loss was $1.25 a share, missing the 69-cent-profit average estimate of 17 analysts surveyed by Bloomberg.

 

Citigroup Inc., the largest U.S. bank, slid 60 cents to $24.41. Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the biggest securities firm, fell $2.84 to $173.86.

 

Credit-market losses will climb to at least $600 billion from $160 billion as investments funded with borrowed money are unwound, UBS credit strategist Geraud Charpin wrote in a note to clients.

 

`Cancer in This Market'

 

``Leveraged risk positions are a cancer in this market and the sooner it is treated the better,'' Charpin wrote. AIG's writedown ``is also the clearest indication that banks are not the only ones to suffer potential losses.''

 

Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Bear Stearns Cos. fell after Deutsche Bank AG analyst Michael Mayo forecast further writedowns of subprime assets and lowered first-quarter profit estimates for the firms. At least five other analysts have cut their first-quarter analysts for banks and brokers in the last two weeks. Lehman fell $1.73 to $52.95. Bear Stearns lost $1.29 to $82.93.

 

Ambac Financial Group Inc. fell 70 cents to $11.10 after CNBC reported that a deal to boost capital at the second-largest bond insurer hit a snag Feb. 27. The group of banks engaged in the bailout will come back with another proposal to keep Ambac together, the financial news network reported. CNBC cited people familiar with the situation.

 

Exxon Mobil and Chevron fell as crude oil retreated 98 cents to $101.61 a barrel and natural gas declined from a two- year high in New York. Exxon fell $1.62 to $87.76. Chevron lost $1.47 to $87.55.

 

Novell, Gap

 

Novell Inc. led the 18 S & P 500 stocks that rose, gaining 37 cents, or 5.7 percent, to $6.91. The second-biggest seller of Linux operating-system software in the U.S. reported a fiscal first-quarter profit that beat analysts' estimates after cutting costs by eliminating jobs and changing sales tactics. The company raised its full-year sales forecast.

 

Gap Inc. rose 92 cents to $20.37. The largest U.S. clothing retailer said fourth-quarter profit advanced for the first time in three years and forecast further gains this year after it sold more full-priced sweaters and jeans during the holiday season.

 

3Com Corp. jumped 55 cents, or 19 percent, to $3.46. Bain Capital LLC and Huawei Technologies Co. plan to reapply within several weeks for U.S. approval to acquire the networking systems and services provider for $2.2 billion, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.

 

Economy Watch

 

The National Association of Purchasing Management-Chicago said its business barometer dropped to 44.5 in February from 51.5 a month earlier. Figures less than 50 signal a contraction.

 

Consumer spending in the U.S. rose more than forecast in January, reflecting a jump in prices that is eroding buying power. The 0.4 percent rise in spending followed a revised 0.3 percent gain in December, the Commerce Department said. The Federal Reserve's preferred measure of inflation climbed 0.3 percent, the most in four months.

 

Yields on Treasury securities slid, sending the two-year note's under 1.8 percent for the first time since April 2004, as investors increased bets on interest-rate cuts by the Federal Reserve.

 

Interest-rate futures indicate traders for the first time assign a higher probability to a three-quarter- point cut than to a half-point cut at the Fed's next meeting on March 18. The odds of a three-quarter point cut implied by futures prices rose to 58 percent from 36 percent yesterday and 2 percent a week ago. The remaining bets are on a half-point cut.

 

The central bank has lowered its target for the overnight lending rate between banks five times since September, most recently to 3 percent on Jan. 30.

 

`Complications'

 

``The market has been of the belief that the Fed's aggressive easing action would relieve the pressures,'' said Henry Herrmann, president of Waddell & Reed Financial Inc., which manages $65 billion in Overland Park, Kansas. ``The complications are not diminishing, they're growing.''

 

Stocks tumbled yesterday after slower-than- forecast economic growth, rising jobless claims and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke's warning of possible failures among smaller banks deepened concern that the economy has tipped into a recession.

cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:14:17 PM Re: Better days in US marketsDear Mr. Raj,Please share the chart details and provide a brief overview of the basic influences behind your prediction.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:>> > > Dear Mr. Thor:> > As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA, the better days in US market have already started. One can see good gains during the months of April and May of 2008.> > Thank you for posting my

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Hello dear Mr. Chadha, Let me draw your attention to your earlier prediction made with reference to the chart followed by you:

 

QUOTE

MR. R K CHADHA MADE A PREDICTION ON 11TH MAY 2007 THAT THE MARKET - Based on my studies with the help of SA, I see that the period from now to July 2008, is going to be very productive. It does not mean that there will not be corrections. But those who will buy or add on corrections will be amply rewarded.

 

UNQUOTE

 

What has happened in the US stock markets cannot be termed as a correction. It has shattered people. The second part of prediction is yet to be seen. Perhaps, you may like to revisit your prediction/chart.

 

DJIA 13326 as on 11th May, 2007.

DJIA 12266 as on 29th February, 2008.

Best wishes.

 

-

Raj Cgadha

SAMVA

Friday, February 29, 2008 11:06 PM

Re: Re: Better days in US markets

Dear Thor:As I pointed out earlier I use solar return charts. My calculations are based on a USA chart which seem to give good results with SRC's, especially for stock market fluctuations. I have tested it as thoroughly as I can. It does not mean that anybody should accept it. The data for USA chart is 07/02/1776, 2:20-2:25PM, EST, Philadelphia. I use mean time 2:22:30.After calculating SRC, I interpret it with SA, not traditional Tajik methods. To understand the stock market fluctuations for the shorter periods I use condensed Vimshottri Dasha (1Year duration), not traditional Mudda dasha. I have tested all these out to my satisfaction, and to the point that I invest my own money based totally on this.I have great success with it. For example, the January 2008 debacle was very clear from the 2007 SRC. (07/06/07, 19:01:22 EST, Philly). With Sagittarius ascendant, MMP Moon is placed on 4H MEP. Its period ran from Dec 29, 07 to Jan 27, 08. Consequently 4H attributes such as real estate, banks, public finances suffered greatly through mortgage crisis. The basis of good April and May is that the period of Jupiter is coming, and Jupiter is aspected by strong Mars from 5H. Based on this I also think that Natural stocks are the place to be in during this period. I understand that SA people don't like SRC's, but I appreciate your generosity to accommodate my point of view on this board. It is up to the individual to like and use my ideas or totally disregard it.ThanksRaj Chadhacosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

 

 

Dear Mr. Raj,Please share the chart details and provide a brief overview of the basic influences behind your prediction.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:>> > > Dear Mr. Thor:> > As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA, the better days in US market have already started. One can see good gains during the months of April and May of 2008.> > Thank you for posting my message.> > Raj Chadha> > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.>

 

 

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Mr. Chaudhry:I still stand by my statement. If DJ fell from 13K to 12K, it is only a 7-8% down. That is known as a correction. The people will be shattered if they buy at the peak and buy stocks with enormous valuations. That does not mean that our calculations are wrong. Thank you for remembering my prediction though.Raj Chadhasiha wrote: Hello dear Mr. Chadha, Let me draw your attention to your earlier prediction made with

reference to the chart followed by you: QUOTE MR. R K CHADHA MADE A PREDICTION ON 11TH MAY 2007 THAT THE MARKET - Based on my studies with the help of SA, I see that the period from now to July 2008, is going to be very productive. It does not mean that there will not be corrections. But those who will buy or add on corrections will be amply rewarded. UNQUOTE What has happened in the US stock markets cannot be termed as a correction. It has shattered people. The second part of prediction is yet to be seen. Perhaps, you may like to revisit your prediction/chart. DJIA 13326 as on 11th May, 2007. DJIA 12266 as on 29th February, 2008. Best wishes. - Raj Cgadha SAMVA Friday, February 29, 2008 11:06 PM Re: Re: Better days in US markets Dear Thor:As I pointed out earlier I use solar return charts. My calculations are based on a USA chart which seem to give good results with SRC's, especially for stock market

fluctuations. I have tested it as thoroughly as I can. It does not mean that anybody should accept it. The data for USA chart is 07/02/1776, 2:20-2:25PM, EST, Philadelphia. I use mean time 2:22:30.After calculating SRC, I interpret it with SA, not traditional Tajik methods. To understand the stock market fluctuations for the shorter periods I use condensed Vimshottri Dasha (1Year duration), not traditional Mudda dasha. I have tested all these out to my satisfaction, and to the point that I invest my own money based totally on this.I have great success with it. For example, the January 2008 debacle was very clear from the 2007 SRC. (07/06/07, 19:01:22 EST, Philly). With Sagittarius ascendant, MMP Moon is placed on 4H MEP. Its period ran from Dec 29, 07 to Jan 27, 08. Consequently 4H attributes such as real estate, banks, public finances suffered greatly through mortgage crisis. The basis of good April and May is that

the period of Jupiter is coming, and Jupiter is aspected by strong Mars from 5H. Based on this I also think that Natural stocks are the place to be in during this period. I understand that SA people don't like SRC's, but I appreciate your generosity to accommodate my point of view on this board. It is up to the individual to like and use my ideas or totally disregard it.ThanksRaj Chadhacosmologer <cosmologer > wrote: Dear Mr. Raj,Please share the chart details and provide a brief overview of the basic influences behind your prediction.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:>> > > Dear Mr.

Thor:> > As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA, the better days in US market have already started. One can see good gains during the months of April and May of 2008.> > Thank you for posting my message.> > Raj Chadha> > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

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Hello dear Mr. Chadha, Your experience and confidence may bring confidence to those who participate in the stock markets.

Best wishes.

 

-

Raj Cgadha

SAMVA

Sunday, March 02, 2008 8:56 PM

Re: Re: Better days in US markets

 

 

Mr. Chaudhry:I still stand by my statement. If DJ fell from 13K to 12K, it is only a 7-8% down. That is known as a correction. The people will be shattered if they buy at the peak and buy stocks with enormous valuations. That does not mean that our calculations are wrong. Thank you for remembering my prediction though.Raj Chadhasiha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Chadha, Let me draw your attention to your earlier prediction made with reference to the chart followed by you:

 

QUOTE

MR. R K CHADHA MADE A PREDICTION ON 11TH MAY 2007 THAT THE MARKET - Based on my studies with the help of SA, I see that the period from now to July 2008, is going to be very productive. It does not mean that there will not be corrections. But those who will buy or add on corrections will be amply rewarded.

 

UNQUOTE

 

What has happened in the US stock markets cannot be termed as a correction. It has shattered people. The second part of prediction is yet to be seen. Perhaps, you may like to revisit your prediction/chart.

 

DJIA 13326 as on 11th May, 2007.

DJIA 12266 as on 29th February, 2008.

Best wishes.

 

-

Raj Cgadha

SAMVA

Friday, February 29, 2008 11:06 PM

Re: Re: Better days in US markets

Dear Thor:As I pointed out earlier I use solar return charts. My calculations are based on a USA chart which seem to give good results with SRC's, especially for stock market fluctuations. I have tested it as thoroughly as I can. It does not mean that anybody should accept it. The data for USA chart is 07/02/1776, 2:20-2:25PM, EST, Philadelphia. I use mean time 2:22:30.After calculating SRC, I interpret it with SA, not traditional Tajik methods. To understand the stock market fluctuations for the shorter periods I use condensed Vimshottri Dasha (1Year duration), not traditional Mudda dasha. I have tested all these out to my satisfaction, and to the point that I invest my own money based totally on this.I have great success with it. For example, the January 2008 debacle was very clear from the 2007 SRC. (07/06/07, 19:01:22 EST, Philly). With Sagittarius ascendant, MMP Moon is placed on 4H MEP. Its period ran from Dec 29, 07 to Jan 27, 08. Consequently 4H attributes such as real estate, banks, public finances suffered greatly through mortgage crisis. The basis of good April and May is that the period of Jupiter is coming, and Jupiter is aspected by strong Mars from 5H. Based on this I also think that Natural stocks are the place to be in during this period. I understand that SA people don't like SRC's, but I appreciate your generosity to accommodate my point of view on this board. It is up to the individual to like and use my ideas or totally disregard it.ThanksRaj Chadhacosmologer <cosmologer > wrote:

 

Dear Mr. Raj,Please share the chart details and provide a brief overview of the basic influences behind your prediction.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:>> > > Dear Mr. Thor:> > As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA, the better days in US market have already started. One can see good gains during the months of April and May of 2008.> > Thank you for posting my message.> > Raj Chadha> > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.>

 

 

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Hello Mr Chadha (and List),

 

Your prediction spans 14 months. So far the first 9 have passed.

 

From the price and date you predicted, the market went up to a max of 6.5%

and now it is currently down more than 8%. It has also seen a low of -12.6%.

 

If someone followed your advice and bought on the date of your prediction,

the loss would be around twice the gain! A horrible situation indeed! If

they kept buying the dips as you suggested, they would be in even more

serious financial trouble.

 

Regardless if the market does rally in the last 5 months or not, with 9 out

of 14 months being unproductive and devastating for many investors, the max

decrease doubling the max increase, one must consider this prediction and

advice as wrong.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

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Sunday, March 02, 2008 10:26 AM

Re: Re: Better days in US markets

 

 

Mr. Chaudhry:

 

I still stand by my statement. If DJ fell from 13K to 12K, it is only a 7-8%

down. That is known as a correction. The people will be shattered if they

buy at the peak and buy stocks with enormous valuations. That does not mean

that our calculations are wrong.

 

Thank you for remembering my prediction though.

 

Raj Chadha

 

siha wrote:

 

Hello dear Mr. Chadha,

 

Let me draw your attention to your earlier prediction made with reference

to the chart followed by you:

 

QUOTE

 

MR. R K CHADHA MADE A PREDICTION ON 11TH MAY 2007 THAT THE MARKET - Based

on my studies with the help of SA, I see that the period from now to July

2008, is going to be very productive. It does not mean that there will not

be corrections. But those who will buy or add on corrections will be amply

rewarded.

 

UNQUOTE

 

What has happened in the US stock markets cannot be termed as a

correction. It has shattered people. The second part of prediction is yet to

be seen. Perhaps, you may like to revisit your prediction/chart.

 

DJIA 13326 as on 11th May, 2007.

DJIA 12266 as on 29th February, 2008.

 

Best wishes.

 

V K Choudhry

 

-

Raj Cgadha

SAMVA

Friday, February 29, 2008 11:06 PM

Re: Re: Better days in US markets

 

 

Dear Thor:

 

As I pointed out earlier I use solar return charts. My calculations are

based on a USA chart which seem to give good results with SRC's,

especially for stock market fluctuations. I have tested it as thoroughly

as I can. It does not mean that anybody should accept it. The data for

USA chart is 07/02/1776, 2:20-2:25PM, EST, Philadelphia. I use mean time

2:22:30.

 

After calculating SRC, I interpret it with SA, not traditional Tajik

methods. To understand the stock market fluctuations for the shorter

periods I use condensed Vimshottri Dasha (1Year duration), not

traditional Mudda dasha. I have tested all these out to my satisfaction, and

to the point that I invest my own money based totally on this.

 

I have great success with it. For example, the January 2008 debacle was

very clear from the 2007 SRC. (07/06/07, 19:01:22 EST, Philly). With

Sagittarius ascendant, MMP Moon is placed on 4H MEP. Its period ran from

Dec 29, 07 to Jan 27, 08. Consequently 4H attributes such as real estate,

banks, public finances suffered greatly through mortgage crisis. The

basis of good April and May is that the period of Jupiter is coming, and

Jupiter is aspected by strong Mars from 5H. Based on this I also think

that Natural stocks are the place to be in during this period.

 

I understand that SA people don't like SRC's, but I appreciate your

generosity to accommodate my point of view on this board. It is up to the

individual to like and use my ideas or totally disregard it.

 

Thanks

 

Raj Chadha

 

cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear Mr. Raj,

 

Please share the chart details and provide a brief overview of the

basic influences behind your prediction.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Mr. Thor:

>

> As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA,

the better days in US market have already started. One can see good

gains during the months of April and May of 2008.

>

> Thank you for posting my message.

>

> Raj Chadha

>

>

>

>

>

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

Try it now.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I live at what may well be turning out to be ground zero for the US

economic collapse: the San Francisco Bay Area and California. Because

everyone wants to live here real estate went through the roof back in

the late 1990s fueled also by the dot com boom. This continued into the

00's as the housing market went crazy and prices went through the roof.

Folks bought homes they really couldn't afford and cities and towns (and

the state too) budgeted expecting more income from growth. Of course

that is not panning out. There are many foreclosures and people just

walking away from homes in California. Banks and being hit really bad.

I suspect that unless you dig around it is hard to find this reported

but even the local TV stations cover the story nightly and things look

really grim.

 

One local city, Vallejo is on the verge of filing bankruptcy and others

such as Fremont may soon follow. Of course these problems are also

occurring in other areas across the country but many of them didn't have

quite the inflated housing prices of the Bay Area. I'm hearing that

because of the decline of the dollar of the value many foreigners are

buying up homes around the country. And the state itself is in a

terrible budget crisis as bad or worse than the conditions that allowed

a movie actor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, to be elected governor in a recall

vote.

 

It is interesting times indeed and perhaps just the karma of a country

that was 7% of the world's population devouring 25% of the world's

resources. I think the arrow is in flight and what astrological

influences we will be seeing will only be minor winds on its path.

 

- Brian Conrad

 

 

Vyas Munidas wrote:

> Hello Mr Chadha (and List),

>

> Your prediction spans 14 months. So far the first 9 have passed.

>

> >From the price and date you predicted, the market went up to a max of 6.5%

> and now it is currently down more than 8%. It has also seen a low of -12.6%.

>

> If someone followed your advice and bought on the date of your prediction,

> the loss would be around twice the gain! A horrible situation indeed! If

> they kept buying the dips as you suggested, they would be in even more

> serious financial trouble.

>

> Regardless if the market does rally in the last 5 months or not, with 9 out

> of 14 months being unproductive and devastating for many investors, the max

> decrease doubling the max increase, one must consider this prediction and

> advice as wrong.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

 

The decline in the US stock market has continued in the past week - with a drop of a further 3%. Today, towards the close of trading, the market suddenly fell, and for the day declined by over 1%. The Dow Jones Industrial Average is now below 12000 for the first time in 17 months - at 11984 points. This development is fully in line with the transits in the SAMVA USA chart.

 

Most FB planets are now badly placed in the SAMVA USA chart and weak. Venus is in advanced old age and debilitated in Navamsa, while closely afflicted by 6th lord Jupiter.

 

Prasna

Mar 8, 2008 12:25 AM +00:00 GMT

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:58 Current Period:

 

Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

================================================

Asc 10:27 Lib Swati Ra

Sun 23:50 Aqu/8 +01:00:02 ST P.Bhadra Ju

Moon 27:45 Aqu/8 +14:07:43 CM P.Bhadra Ju

Mars 07:12 Gem(12 +00:20:20 ST Ardra Ra

Merc 27:07 Cap/7 +01:10:44 FM Dhanishtha Ma

Jupt 22:49 Sag/6 +00:09:50 ST P.Shadya Ve

Ven 29:55 Cap/7 +01:14:12 WK Dhanishtha Ma

Sat R 10:11 Leo/2 -00:04:37 ST Magha Ke

Rahu 03:44 Aqu/8 -00:01:40 FM Dhanishtha Ma

Ketu 03:44 Leo/2 -00:01:40 FM Magha Ke

 

 

Rashi Chart

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*RA 03:44 * * * * *

*SU 23:50 * 1 * 3 MA 07:12*

*MO 27:45 * * * * *

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Navamsha

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* * 10 AS * 8 RA *

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** * * **

*1 * 7 JU *

** * * **

*2 * * * * *

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* * * * * *

* * * * * *

*SU * * * * ME *

*KE * 4 SAR * 6 VE *

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Looking forward, some respite is expected in the financial markets in May and June 2008, before a resumption of the volatility during the second half of the year.

 

Please note that I´ve updated the graph on the SAMVA Photo page showing stock performance up to date, in comparison with the evolution in 1948/9 when Jupiter was also in Sagittarius and Saturn also in Leo. The most recent dates for each series is now shown.

http://ph.SAMVA/photos/view/6ee3?b=1

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

U.S. Stocks Drop on Unexpected Loss of Jobs; Energy Shares Fall

By Elizabeth Stanton

March 7 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for a second day after the biggest drop in jobs since 2003 sent energy and mining stocks lower, overshadowing an advance in banks spurred by a Federal Reserve plan to make more cash available to lenders.

 

U.S. Economy: February Payrolls Unexpectedly Decline By Shobhana Chandra

March 7 (Bloomberg) -- Employers unexpectedly cut jobs in February for the second consecutive month, adding to evidence the U.S. is in a recession that may dominate the economic debate in this year's presidential campaign.

Payrolls fell by 63,000, the most in five years, after a revised decline of 22,000 in January, the Labor Department said today in Washington. The jobless rate dropped to 4.8 percent, reflecting a shrinking labor force as some people gave up looking for work.

 

Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:12 am Transit in the SAMVA USA chart in coming days, weeks and months Message #14833 of 14888

Re: Better days in US markets

Dear Mr. Thor:

As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA, the better days in US market have already started. One can see good gains during the months of April and May of 2008.

Thank you for posting my message.

Raj Chadha

 

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Dear Friends:US stock market looking good in April, as I predicted in February. I believe it willcontinue to do so in the remaining part of April and the month of May also. Those who bought in February on my suggestion are reaping the profits. I hope Thor and others give some thoughts now to the US chart of 7/2/1776, 2:22 PM, Philly, and the usefulness of SRC's combined with compressed Vimshottri dasha.Raj ChadhaCosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear Raj and Ajay, Allow me to comment on the placements in the chart. I do so directly in the text by you in UPPER CASE. Best wishes, Thor Raj Cgadha <rkctech >SAMVA Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:58:06 PMRe: Re: Better days in US markets Dear Ajay:I have provided my chart for USA in my earlier mail to Mr. Thor. You can analyse it as well. Here are the details once again. July 2, 1776, 2:20-2:25PM, EST, Philadelphia. Libra rising 16:27.Here is my analysis in brief:GLOBAL COMMENT: A BASIC REASON I LIKED THE LIBRA RISING CHART EXPLORED BY ME IN 2000/2001 WERE THE STRONG PLACEMENTS IN THE 9TH HOUSE. I THEREFORE UNDERSTAND YOUR IMPRESSION THAT THE CHART IS WORTHY OF A COUNTRY LIKE THE USA. THAT SAID, I FOUND THE SUITABLE STRENGTH AND APPROPRIATE NATAL POTENTIAL GREATER IN THE SAMVA USA CHART. The economy of the USA (11L)

is tied with wars (3L) in foreign countries (9H). WAR IS LINKED TO THE 6TH HOUSE. THE PRESENCE OF 3RD LORD JUPITER AND 11TH LORD SUN IN THE MOST EFFECTIVE POINT OF THE 9TH HOUSE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO BOTH LORDS AND THE HOUSES INFLUENCED. THE OUTCOME, HOWEVER, WOULD NOT LEAD TO ARMED CONFLICTIt gets involved in foreign conflicts (Rahu ca 6H). THIS IS A MORE PLAUSIBLE REASON FOR WAR.Fluctuating wealth of the country (2H ca by Rahu & Moon opposite Mercury). THE MOON AS 10TH LORD IN ASPECT TO 12TH LORD, WOULD SUGGEST INVOLVEMENT IN FOREIGN TRADE, BASED ALSO

ON NATURAL RESOURCES, FOOD, ETC. AS MOON IS FUNCTIONAL INDICATOR FOR THE EXECUTIVE GOVERNMENT, FOREIGN TRADE, THE FORTUNES OF THESE WOULD BE VERY VOLATILE DUE TO THE AFFLICTION OF NODES TO THE 10TH AND 4TH HOUSES. Lawyers have big control (1L, 11L in 9H) in USA.VENUS IS UNAFFLICTED AND NOT IN MOST EFFECTIVE POINT OF THE 9TH HOUSE. SUN AS 11TH LORD INFLUENCES THE HOUSE. THE PLACEMENT OF SUN SUGGESTS GREAT WISDOM AND INFLUENCE IN THE WORLD. It gets involved in wars easily and wins them (3H ca by 3L). 3RD HOUSE INDICATES INITIATIVE BUT NOT WARMany attacks on its leaders

(Sat ca Sun). SATURN IS 5TH LORD PLACED IN THE 12TH HOUSE. THIS SUGGESTS THE 5TH HOUSE INDICATIONS WOULD NOT PROSPER, EXCEPT ABROAD. THE ASPECT OF SATURN TO SUN WOULD NOT BE HARMFUL AS SATURN IS A FUNCTIONAL BENEFIC. Dominance on the world stage (strong Sun, Jup, Ven in Sun-like house). YES, THIS WOULD BE CONSISTENT.Many scientific discoveries (Gemini has strong planets). OKMany natural disasters (Ketu ca 8H, 12H). OKOct stock market crashes

(transit of Sun in Libra). I ALSO ARGUED THIS IN AN ARTICLE IN 2001 - THE IDES OF OCTOBER - BASED ON THE SIMILAR LIBRA RISING CHART FOR TWO DAYS LATER.Many violences in April (transit of Mercury in Aries). MARS IS A FUNCTIONAL BENEFIC AS 7TH LORD IN THE CHART. ITS TRANSIT THROUGH 9TH HOUSE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO ITS INDICATIONS.etc. etc. ?Please do more analysis yourself.Raj Chadhaajay sehg <ajaysehg > wrote: Dear Thor, You are right, the recent downfall in US stock markets are clearly explainable with US samva chart, today i read a message from very senior Respected SA astrologer. I think if he has more clear chart of US than the present one, he should present it before SA community so that we all can analyse it.Thanks again Dear Thor for ur good analysis.ajay.Cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote: Dear friends, The US stock market is still highly volatile. It has fallen over 220 points since the open. This is seen clearly in the 20° Cancer rising SAMVA USA chart. While the conjunction of transit 3rd lord Mercury and 4th lord Venus in Capricorn is quite benign and moreover, with these planets now also in an applying conjunction with natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, which would be helpful, there are many difficult aspects to contend with in the SAMVA USA chart: - transit 2nd lord Sun at 16° Aquarius in the 8th house is now closely aspected by natal Ketu at

17° 47' Libra and 4th house. This is a transit often associated with disturbance in the stock market. - transit Rahu in the 8th house aspects to transit Mars in the 12th house is still close even if separating. This aspect has been associated with the unease in the market, and especially the adverse development for industrial companies. - transit 6th lord Jupiter at 21° 33' Sagittarius in the MEP of the 6th house and in applying conjunction to natal 4th lord Venus at 23° 51' Sagittarius. This aspect is having an impact to disturb sentiments and provoke concerns about the housing market. - moreover, today, transit 1st lord Moon at 23° Scorpio in the 5th house, it is both debilitated and conjunct natal 8th lord Saturn in the SAMVA USA chart. This brief aspect is likely especially disturbing as transit Saturn at 10° 46' Leo and 2nd house is in an applying 10th house aspect to natal Moon at 7° 23' Taurus and 11th house of the chart. These aspects would be unsettling for the self-image of the country and the general sense of well being. Best wishes, Thor Bloomberg U.S. Stocks Decline on Economic Concern; AIG, Exxon Retreat By Elizabeth Stanton Feb. 29 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks

tumbled after an industry report on U.S. business activity fell to the lowest level in seven years and UBS AG said losses in credits markets may reach as much as $600 billion. American International Inc., the world's largest insurer, tumbled the most in two weeks after posting the biggest loss in its 89-year history. Financial shares slid to a five-week low after UBS said the fallout from the subprime mortgage market's collapse will be worse than expected and the National Association of Purchasing Management-Chicago said production and employment weakened. Exxon Mobil Corp. and Chevron Corp. led energy producers to their steepest decline since Feb. 5 after oil slipped from a record. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index extended its fourth- straight monthly decline, dropping 23.55 points, or 1.7 percent, to 1,344.13 at 10:19 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average decreased 202.22, or 1.6 percent, to 12,379.96. The Nasdaq Composite Index lost 41.86, or 1.8 percent, to 2,289.71. About 11 stocks dropped for every one that rose on the New York Stock Exchange. Shares fell in Europe and Asia. ``There is certainly no shortage of negative news out there,'' Michael Magiera, senior analyst at Manning & Napier Advisors, which manages $17 billion in Fairport, New York, said in an interview on Bloomberg Television. ``It's going to be a little while before we work through some of this.'' The S & P 500 has dropped 2.3 percent in February on concern an economic slowdown will hurt profits. Earnings for S & P 500 companies will shrink 1.6 percent this quarter and 0.5 percent next, according to analysts' estimates compiled by Bloomberg. $600 Billion AIG tumbled $3.44 to $46.71. The insurer posted a fourth- quarter net loss of $5.29 billion, or $2.08 a share, after an $11.1 billion writedown on derivatives linked in part to subprime mortgages. AIG said it

expects more writedowns this year. Excluding capital losses and the change in value of some derivatives, the company's loss was $1.25 a share, missing the 69-cent-profit average estimate of 17 analysts surveyed by Bloomberg. Citigroup Inc., the largest U.S. bank, slid 60 cents to $24.41. Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the biggest securities firm, fell $2.84 to $173.86. Credit-market losses will climb to at least $600 billion from $160 billion as investments funded with borrowed money are unwound, UBS credit strategist Geraud Charpin wrote in a note to clients. `Cancer in This Market' ``Leveraged risk positions are a cancer in this market and the sooner it is treated the better,'' Charpin wrote. AIG's writedown ``is also the clearest indication that banks are not the only ones to suffer potential losses.'' Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Bear Stearns Cos. fell after Deutsche Bank AG analyst Michael Mayo forecast further writedowns of subprime assets and lowered first-quarter profit estimates for the firms. At least five other analysts have cut their first-quarter

analysts for banks and brokers in the last two weeks. Lehman fell $1.73 to $52.95. Bear Stearns lost $1.29 to $82.93. Ambac Financial Group Inc. fell 70 cents to $11.10 after CNBC reported that a deal to boost capital at the second-largest bond insurer hit a snag Feb. 27. The group of banks engaged in the bailout will come back with another proposal to keep Ambac together, the financial news network reported. CNBC cited people familiar with the situation. Exxon Mobil and Chevron fell as crude oil retreated 98 cents to $101.61 a barrel and natural gas declined from a two- year high in New York. Exxon fell $1.62 to $87.76.

Chevron lost $1.47 to $87.55. Novell, Gap Novell Inc. led the 18 S & P 500 stocks that rose, gaining 37 cents, or 5.7 percent, to $6.91. The second-biggest seller of Linux operating-system software in the U.S. reported a fiscal first-quarter profit that beat analysts' estimates after cutting costs by eliminating jobs and changing sales tactics. The company raised its full-year sales forecast. Gap Inc. rose 92 cents to $20.37. The largest U.S.

clothing retailer said fourth-quarter profit advanced for the first time in three years and forecast further gains this year after it sold more full-priced sweaters and jeans during the holiday season. 3Com Corp. jumped 55 cents, or 19 percent, to $3.46. Bain Capital LLC and Huawei Technologies Co. plan to reapply within several weeks for U.S. approval to acquire the networking systems and services provider for $2.2 billion, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter. Economy Watch The National Association of Purchasing Management-Chicago said its business barometer dropped to 44.5 in February from 51.5 a month earlier. Figures less than 50 signal a contraction. Consumer spending in the U.S. rose more than forecast in January, reflecting a jump in prices that is eroding buying power. The 0.4 percent rise in spending followed a revised 0.3 percent gain in December, the Commerce Department said. The Federal Reserve's preferred measure of inflation climbed 0.3 percent, the most in four months. Yields on Treasury securities slid, sending the

two-year note's under 1.8 percent for the first time since April 2004, as investors increased bets on interest-rate cuts by the Federal Reserve. Interest-rate futures indicate traders for the first time assign a higher probability to a three-quarter- point cut than to a half-point cut at the Fed's next meeting on March 18. The odds of a three-quarter point cut implied by futures prices rose to 58 percent from 36 percent yesterday and 2 percent a week ago. The remaining bets are on a half-point cut. The central bank has lowered its target for the overnight lending rate between banks five times since September, most recently

to 3 percent on Jan. 30. `Complications' ``The market has been of the belief that the Fed's aggressive easing action would relieve the pressures,'' said Henry Herrmann, president of Waddell & Reed Financial Inc., which manages $65 billion in Overland Park, Kansas. ``The complications are not diminishing, they're growing.'' Stocks tumbled yesterday after slower-than- forecast economic growth, rising jobless claims and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben

S. Bernanke's warning of possible failures among smaller banks deepened concern that the economy has tipped into a recession. cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:14:17 PM Re: Better days in US marketsDear Mr. Raj,Please share the chart details and provide a brief overview of the basic influences behind your prediction.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:>> > > Dear Mr. Thor:> > As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA, the better days in US market have already started.

One can see good gains during the months of April and May of 2008.> > Thank you for posting my message.> > Raj Chadha> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.>

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Hi Mr Chadha,

 

Your prediction here would be noteable only if all your previous predictions

using this chart proved correct. However, it was found that your buy

recommendation last year, based on this chart, was catastrophic, seeing

twice the losses than any gains. Recently, if anyone bought in February

2008, they would may have had lots of sleepless nights since the DJIA moved

down 500 points in the month of March.

 

The behaviour in the US stock market is adequately shown in the USA SAMVA

chart. If a student takes the time to learn SA without relying on unproven

principles, then this will become very clear.

 

You are welcome to promote your methodology, but it should not be mistaken

for SA and shouldn't be done on this list.

 

All are welcome to discuss SA points and concepts and make predictions based

on tested charts, approved by .

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

[Moderator]

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" Raj Cgadha " <rkctech

<SAMVA >

Friday, April 18, 2008 2:10 PM

Re: Re: Better days in US markets

 

 

Dear Friends:

 

US stock market looking good in April, as I predicted in February. I believe

it will

continue to do so in the remaining part of April and the month of May also.

Those who bought in February on my suggestion are reaping the profits. I

hope Thor and others give some thoughts now to the US chart of 7/2/1776,

2:22 PM, Philly, and the usefulness of SRC's combined with compressed

Vimshottri dasha.

 

Raj Chadha

 

Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

Dear Raj and Ajay,

 

Allow me to comment on the placements in the chart.

 

I do so directly in the text by you in UPPER CASE.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

Raj Cgadha <rkctech

SAMVA

Friday, February 29, 2008 6:58:06 PM

Re: Re: Better days in US markets

 

Dear Ajay:

 

I have provided my chart for USA in my earlier mail to Mr. Thor. You can

analyse it as well. Here are the details once again. July 2, 1776,

2:20-2:25PM, EST, Philadelphia. Libra rising 16:27.

 

Here is my analysis in brief:

GLOBAL COMMENT: A BASIC REASON I LIKED THE LIBRA RISING CHART EXPLORED BY ME

IN 2000/2001 WERE THE STRONG PLACEMENTS IN THE 9TH HOUSE. I THEREFORE

UNDERSTAND YOUR IMPRESSION THAT THE CHART IS WORTHY OF A COUNTRY LIKE THE

USA. THAT SAID, I FOUND THE SUITABLE STRENGTH AND APPROPRIATE NATAL

POTENTIAL GREATER IN THE SAMVA USA CHART.

 

The economy of the USA (11L) is tied with wars (3L) in foreign countries

(9H).

WAR IS LINKED TO THE 6TH HOUSE. THE PRESENCE OF 3RD LORD JUPITER AND 11TH

LORD SUN IN THE MOST EFFECTIVE POINT OF THE 9TH HOUSE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL

TO BOTH LORDS AND THE HOUSES INFLUENCED. THE OUTCOME, HOWEVER, WOULD NOT

LEAD TO ARMED CONFLICT

It gets involved in foreign conflicts (Rahu ca 6H).

THIS IS A MORE PLAUSIBLE REASON FOR WAR.

Fluctuating wealth of the country (2H ca by Rahu & Moon opposite Mercury).

THE MOON AS 10TH LORD IN ASPECT TO 12TH LORD, WOULD SUGGEST INVOLVEMENT IN

FOREIGN TRADE, BASED ALSO ON NATURAL RESOURCES, FOOD, ETC. AS MOON IS

FUNCTIONAL INDICATOR FOR THE EXECUTIVE GOVERNMENT, FOREIGN TRADE, THE

FORTUNES OF THESE WOULD BE VERY VOLATILE DUE TO THE AFFLICTION OF NODES TO

THE 10TH AND 4TH HOUSES.

Lawyers have big control (1L, 11L in 9H) in USA.

VENUS IS UNAFFLICTED AND NOT IN MOST EFFECTIVE POINT OF THE 9TH HOUSE. SUN

AS 11TH LORD INFLUENCES THE HOUSE. THE PLACEMENT OF SUN SUGGESTS GREAT

WISDOM AND INFLUENCE IN THE WORLD.

It gets involved in wars easily and wins them (3H ca by 3L).

3RD HOUSE INDICATES INITIATIVE BUT NOT WAR

Many attacks on its leaders (Sat ca Sun).

SATURN IS 5TH LORD PLACED IN THE 12TH HOUSE. THIS SUGGESTS THE 5TH HOUSE

INDICATIONS WOULD NOT PROSPER, EXCEPT ABROAD. THE ASPECT OF SATURN TO SUN

WOULD NOT BE HARMFUL AS SATURN IS A FUNCTIONAL BENEFIC.

Dominance on the world stage (strong Sun, Jup, Ven in Sun-like house).

YES, THIS WOULD BE CONSISTENT.

Many scientific discoveries (Gemini has strong planets).

OK

Many natural disasters (Ketu ca 8H, 12H).

OK

Oct stock market crashes (transit of Sun in Libra).

I ALSO ARGUED THIS IN AN ARTICLE IN 2001 - THE IDES OF OCTOBER - BASED ON

THE SIMILAR LIBRA RISING CHART FOR TWO DAYS LATER.

Many violences in April (transit of Mercury in Aries).

MARS IS A FUNCTIONAL BENEFIC AS 7TH LORD IN THE CHART. ITS TRANSIT THROUGH

9TH HOUSE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO ITS INDICATIONS.

etc. etc.

?

 

Please do more analysis yourself.

 

Raj Chadha

ajay sehg <ajaysehg wrote:

Dear Thor,

 

You are right, the recent downfall in US stock markets are clearly

explainable with US samva chart, today i read a message from very senior

Respected SA astrologer.

 

I think if he has more clear chart of US than the present one, he should

present it before SA community so that we all can analyse it.

 

Thanks again Dear Thor for ur good analysis.

 

ajay.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote:

Dear friends,

 

The US stock market is still highly volatile. It has fallen over 220 points

since the open. This is seen clearly in the 20° Cancer rising SAMVA USA

chart.

 

While the conjunction of transit 3rd lord Mercury and 4th lord Venus in

Capricorn is quite benign and moreover, with these planets now also in an

applying conjunction with natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, which would

be helpful, there are many difficult aspects to contend with in the SAMVA

USA chart:

 

- transit 2nd lord Sun at 16° Aquarius in the 8th house is now closely

aspected by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. This is a transit

often associated with disturbance in the stock market.

 

- transit Rahu in the 8th house aspects to transit Mars in the 12th house

is still close even if separating. This aspect has been associated with the

unease in the market, and especially the adverse development for industrial

companies.

 

- transit 6th lord Jupiter at 21° 33' Sagittarius in the MEP of the 6th

house and in applying conjunction to natal 4th lord Venus at 23° 51'

Sagittarius. This aspect is having an impact to disturb sentiments and

provoke concerns about the housing market.

 

- moreover, today, transit 1st lord Moon at 23° Scorpio in the 5th house,

it is both debilitated and conjunct natal 8th lord Saturn in the SAMVA USA

chart. This brief aspect is likely especially disturbing as transit Saturn

at 10° 46' Leo and 2nd house is in an applying 10th house aspect to natal

Moon at 7° 23' Taurus and 11th house of the chart. These aspects would be

unsettling for the self-image of the country and the general sense of well

being.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

Bloomberg

U.S. Stocks Decline on Economic Concern; AIG, Exxon Retreat

 

By Elizabeth Stanton

 

Feb. 29 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks tumbled after an industry report on U.S.

business activity fell to the lowest level in seven years and UBS AG said

losses in credits markets may reach as much as $600 billion.

 

American International Inc., the world's largest insurer, tumbled the most

in two weeks after posting the biggest loss in its 89-year history.

Financial shares slid to a five-week low after UBS said the fallout from the

subprime mortgage market's collapse will be worse than expected and the

National Association of Purchasing Management-Chicago said production and

employment weakened. Exxon Mobil Corp. and Chevron Corp. led energy

producers to their steepest decline since Feb. 5 after oil slipped from a

record.

 

The Standard & Poor's 500 Index extended its fourth- straight monthly

decline, dropping 23.55 points, or 1.7 percent, to 1,344.13 at 10:19 a.m. in

New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average decreased 202.22, or 1.6 percent,

to 12,379.96. The Nasdaq Composite Index lost 41.86, or 1.8 percent, to

2,289.71. About 11 stocks dropped for every one that rose on the New York

Stock Exchange. Shares fell in Europe and Asia.

 

``There is certainly no shortage of negative news out there,'' Michael

Magiera, senior analyst at Manning & Napier Advisors, which manages $17

billion in Fairport, New York, said in an interview on Bloomberg Television.

``It's going to be a little while before we work through some of this.''

 

The S & P 500 has dropped 2.3 percent in February on concern an economic

slowdown will hurt profits. Earnings for S & P 500 companies will shrink 1.6

percent this quarter and 0.5 percent next, according to analysts' estimates

compiled by Bloomberg.

 

$600 Billion

 

AIG tumbled $3.44 to $46.71. The insurer posted a fourth- quarter net loss

of $5.29 billion, or $2.08 a share, after an $11.1 billion writedown on

derivatives linked in part to subprime mortgages. AIG said it expects more

writedowns this year. Excluding capital losses and the change in value of

some derivatives, the company's loss was $1.25 a share, missing the

69-cent-profit average estimate of 17 analysts surveyed by Bloomberg.

 

Citigroup Inc., the largest U.S. bank, slid 60 cents to $24.41. Goldman

Sachs Group Inc., the biggest securities firm, fell $2.84 to $173.86.

 

Credit-market losses will climb to at least $600 billion from $160 billion

as investments funded with borrowed money are unwound, UBS credit strategist

Geraud Charpin wrote in a note to clients.

 

`Cancer in This Market'

 

``Leveraged risk positions are a cancer in this market and the sooner it is

treated the better,'' Charpin wrote. AIG's writedown ``is also the clearest

indication that banks are not the only ones to suffer potential losses.''

 

Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Bear Stearns Cos. fell after Deutsche

Bank AG analyst Michael Mayo forecast further writedowns of subprime assets

and lowered first-quarter profit estimates for the firms. At least five

other analysts have cut their first-quarter analysts for banks and brokers

in the last two weeks. Lehman fell $1.73 to $52.95. Bear Stearns lost $1.29

to $82.93.

 

Ambac Financial Group Inc. fell 70 cents to $11.10 after CNBC reported that

a deal to boost capital at the second-largest bond insurer hit a snag Feb.

27. The group of banks engaged in the bailout will come back with another

proposal to keep Ambac together, the financial news network reported. CNBC

cited people familiar with the situation.

 

Exxon Mobil and Chevron fell as crude oil retreated 98 cents to $101.61 a

barrel and natural gas declined from a two- year high in New York. Exxon

fell $1.62 to $87.76. Chevron lost $1.47 to $87.55.

 

Novell, Gap

 

Novell Inc. led the 18 S & P 500 stocks that rose, gaining 37 cents, or 5.7

percent, to $6.91. The second-biggest seller of Linux operating-system

software in the U.S. reported a fiscal first-quarter profit that beat

analysts' estimates after cutting costs by eliminating jobs and changing

sales tactics. The company raised its full-year sales forecast.

 

Gap Inc. rose 92 cents to $20.37. The largest U.S. clothing retailer said

fourth-quarter profit advanced for the first time in three years and

forecast further gains this year after it sold more full-priced sweaters and

jeans during the holiday season.

 

3Com Corp. jumped 55 cents, or 19 percent, to $3.46. Bain Capital LLC and

Huawei Technologies Co. plan to reapply within several weeks for U.S.

approval to acquire the networking systems and services provider for $2.2

billion, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the

matter.

 

Economy Watch

 

The National Association of Purchasing Management-Chicago said its business

barometer dropped to 44.5 in February from 51.5 a month earlier. Figures

less than 50 signal a contraction.

 

Consumer spending in the U.S. rose more than forecast in January,

reflecting a jump in prices that is eroding buying power. The 0.4 percent

rise in spending followed a revised 0.3 percent gain in December, the

Commerce Department said. The Federal Reserve's preferred measure of

inflation climbed 0.3 percent, the most in four months.

 

Yields on Treasury securities slid, sending the two-year note's under 1.8

percent for the first time since April 2004, as investors increased bets on

interest-rate cuts by the Federal Reserve.

 

Interest-rate futures indicate traders for the first time assign a higher

probability to a three-quarter- point cut than to a half-point cut at the

Fed's next meeting on March 18. The odds of a three-quarter point cut

implied by futures prices rose to 58 percent from 36 percent yesterday and 2

percent a week ago. The remaining bets are on a half-point cut.

 

The central bank has lowered its target for the overnight lending rate

between banks five times since September, most recently to 3 percent on Jan.

30.

 

`Complications'

 

``The market has been of the belief that the Fed's aggressive easing action

would relieve the pressures,'' said Henry Herrmann, president of Waddell &

Reed Financial Inc., which manages $65 billion in Overland Park, Kansas.

``The complications are not diminishing, they're growing.''

 

Stocks tumbled yesterday after slower-than- forecast economic growth,

rising jobless claims and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke's warning

of possible failures among smaller banks deepened concern that the economy

has tipped into a recession.

 

cosmologer <cosmologer >

SAMVA

Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:14:17 PM

Re: Better days in US markets

 

Dear Mr. Raj,

 

Please share the chart details and provide a brief overview of the

basic influences behind your prediction.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Mr. Thor:

>

> As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA,

the better days in US market have already started. One can see good

gains during the months of April and May of 2008.

>

> Thank you for posting my message.

>

> Raj Chadha

>

>

>

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ---

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

Try it now.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hello Mr. Chadha, The proposed chart does not match with various aspects of life and the current developments. Your prediction made on 11th May is reproduced below for your reference:

 

Quote

Based on my studies with the help of SA, I see that the period from now to July 2008, is going to be very productive. It does not mean that there will not be corrections. But those who will buy or add on corrections will be amply rewarded.

Unquote

 

This did not show the major setback in US financial markets. The DOW on 11th May was 13326. In December, 2007, on a couple of days only it was up by about 2.5%. However, it saw significant setbacks in February-March 2008 shaking the confidence of investors. Even currently the DOW index is at 12849 which is lower than its position as on May 11, 2007.

 

I personally monitored this chart in view of your insistence. This chart is not the correct chart for US and does not merit discussion on this list. If you still hold your opinion you may continue to follow it for your ownself off the list.

 

Best wishes.

 

 

-

Raj Cgadha

SAMVA

Friday, April 18, 2008 11:40 PM

Re: Re: Better days in US markets

 

 

Dear Friends:US stock market looking good in April, as I predicted in February. I believe it willcontinue to do so in the remaining part of April and the month of May also. Those who bought in February on my suggestion are reaping the profits. I hope Thor and others give some thoughts now to the US chart of 7/2/1776, 2:22 PM, Philly, and the usefulness of SRC's combined with compressed Vimshottri dasha.Raj ChadhaCosmologer <cosmologer > wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Raj and Ajay,

 

Allow me to comment on the placements in the chart.

 

I do so directly in the text by you in UPPER CASE.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

Raj Cgadha <rkctech >SAMVA Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:58:06 PMRe: Re: Better days in US marketsDear Ajay:I have provided my chart for USA in my earlier mail to Mr. Thor. You can analyse it as well. Here are the details once again. July 2, 1776, 2:20-2:25PM, EST, Philadelphia. Libra rising 16:27.Here is my analysis in brief:GLOBAL COMMENT: A BASIC REASON I LIKED THE LIBRA RISING CHART EXPLORED BY ME IN 2000/2001 WERE THE STRONG PLACEMENTS IN THE 9TH HOUSE. I THEREFORE UNDERSTAND YOUR IMPRESSION THAT THE CHART IS WORTHY OF A COUNTRY LIKE THE USA. THAT SAID, I FOUND THE SUITABLE STRENGTH AND APPROPRIATE NATAL POTENTIAL GREATER IN THE SAMVA USA CHART.

The economy of the USA (11L) is tied with wars (3L) in foreign countries (9H).

WAR IS LINKED TO THE 6TH HOUSE. THE PRESENCE OF 3RD LORD JUPITER AND 11TH LORD SUN IN THE MOST EFFECTIVE POINT OF THE 9TH HOUSE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO BOTH LORDS AND THE HOUSES INFLUENCED. THE OUTCOME, HOWEVER, WOULD NOT LEAD TO ARMED CONFLICTIt gets involved in foreign conflicts (Rahu ca 6H).

THIS IS A MORE PLAUSIBLE REASON FOR WAR.Fluctuating wealth of the country (2H ca by Rahu & Moon opposite Mercury).

THE MOON AS 10TH LORD IN ASPECT TO 12TH LORD, WOULD SUGGEST INVOLVEMENT IN FOREIGN TRADE, BASED ALSO ON NATURAL RESOURCES, FOOD, ETC. AS MOON IS FUNCTIONAL INDICATOR FOR THE EXECUTIVE GOVERNMENT, FOREIGN TRADE, THE FORTUNES OF THESE WOULD BE VERY VOLATILE DUE TO THE AFFLICTION OF NODES TO THE 10TH AND 4TH HOUSES.

Lawyers have big control (1L, 11L in 9H) in USA.VENUS IS UNAFFLICTED AND NOT IN MOST EFFECTIVE POINT OF THE 9TH HOUSE. SUN AS 11TH LORD INFLUENCES THE HOUSE. THE PLACEMENT OF SUN SUGGESTS GREAT WISDOM AND INFLUENCE IN THE WORLD.

It gets involved in wars easily and wins them (3H ca by 3L).

3RD HOUSE INDICATES INITIATIVE BUT NOT WARMany attacks on its leaders (Sat ca Sun).

SATURN IS 5TH LORD PLACED IN THE 12TH HOUSE. THIS SUGGESTS THE 5TH HOUSE INDICATIONS WOULD NOT PROSPER, EXCEPT ABROAD. THE ASPECT OF SATURN TO SUN WOULD NOT BE HARMFUL AS SATURN IS A FUNCTIONAL BENEFIC. Dominance on the world stage (strong Sun, Jup, Ven in Sun-like house).

YES, THIS WOULD BE CONSISTENT.Many scientific discoveries (Gemini has strong planets).

OKMany natural disasters (Ketu ca 8H, 12H).

OKOct stock market crashes (transit of Sun in Libra).

I ALSO ARGUED THIS IN AN ARTICLE IN 2001 - THE IDES OF OCTOBER - BASED ON THE SIMILAR LIBRA RISING CHART FOR TWO DAYS LATER.Many violences in April (transit of Mercury in Aries).

MARS IS A FUNCTIONAL BENEFIC AS 7TH LORD IN THE CHART. ITS TRANSIT THROUGH 9TH HOUSE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO ITS INDICATIONS.etc. etc.

?Please do more analysis yourself.Raj Chadhaajay sehg <ajaysehg > wrote:

 

 

Dear Thor, You are right, the recent downfall in US stock markets are clearly explainable with US samva chart, today i read a message from very senior Respected SA astrologer. I think if he has more clear chart of US than the present one, he should present it before SA community so that we all can analyse it.Thanks again Dear Thor for ur good analysis.ajay.Cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear friends,

 

The US stock market is still highly volatile. It has fallen over 220 points since the open. This is seen clearly in the 20° Cancer rising SAMVA USA chart.

 

While the conjunction of transit 3rd lord Mercury and 4th lord Venus in Capricorn is quite benign and moreover, with these planets now also in an applying conjunction with natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, which would be helpful, there are many difficult aspects to contend with in the SAMVA USA chart:

 

- transit 2nd lord Sun at 16° Aquarius in the 8th house is now closely aspected by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. This is a transit often associated with disturbance in the stock market.

 

- transit Rahu in the 8th house aspects to transit Mars in the 12th house is still close even if separating. This aspect has been associated with the unease in the market, and especially the adverse development for industrial companies.

 

- transit 6th lord Jupiter at 21° 33' Sagittarius in the MEP of the 6th house and in applying conjunction to natal 4th lord Venus at 23° 51' Sagittarius. This aspect is having an impact to disturb sentiments and provoke concerns about the housing market.

 

- moreover, today, transit 1st lord Moon at 23° Scorpio in the 5th house, it is both debilitated and conjunct natal 8th lord Saturn in the SAMVA USA chart. This brief aspect is likely especially disturbing as transit Saturn at 10° 46' Leo and 2nd house is in an applying 10th house aspect to natal Moon at 7° 23' Taurus and 11th house of the chart. These aspects would be unsettling for the self-image of the country and the general sense of well being.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

Bloomberg

U.S. Stocks Decline on Economic Concern; AIG, Exxon Retreat

 

By Elizabeth Stanton

 

Feb. 29 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks tumbled after an industry report on U.S. business activity fell to the lowest level in seven years and UBS AG said losses in credits markets may reach as much as $600 billion.

 

American International Inc., the world's largest insurer, tumbled the most in two weeks after posting the biggest loss in its 89-year history. Financial shares slid to a five-week low after UBS said the fallout from the subprime mortgage market's collapse will be worse than expected and the National Association of Purchasing Management-Chicago said production and employment weakened. Exxon Mobil Corp. and Chevron Corp. led energy producers to their steepest decline since Feb. 5 after oil slipped from a record.

 

The Standard & Poor's 500 Index extended its fourth- straight monthly decline, dropping 23.55 points, or 1.7 percent, to 1,344.13 at 10:19 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average decreased 202.22, or 1.6 percent, to 12,379.96. The Nasdaq Composite Index lost 41.86, or 1.8 percent, to 2,289.71. About 11 stocks dropped for every one that rose on the New York Stock Exchange. Shares fell in Europe and Asia.

 

``There is certainly no shortage of negative news out there,'' Michael Magiera, senior analyst at Manning & Napier Advisors, which manages $17 billion in Fairport, New York, said in an interview on Bloomberg Television. ``It's going to be a little while before we work through some of this.''

 

The S & P 500 has dropped 2.3 percent in February on concern an economic slowdown will hurt profits. Earnings for S & P 500 companies will shrink 1.6 percent this quarter and 0.5 percent next, according to analysts' estimates compiled by Bloomberg.

 

$600 Billion

 

AIG tumbled $3.44 to $46.71. The insurer posted a fourth- quarter net loss of $5.29 billion, or $2.08 a share, after an $11.1 billion writedown on derivatives linked in part to subprime mortgages. AIG said it expects more writedowns this year. Excluding capital losses and the change in value of some derivatives, the company's loss was $1.25 a share, missing the 69-cent-profit average estimate of 17 analysts surveyed by Bloomberg.

 

Citigroup Inc., the largest U.S. bank, slid 60 cents to $24.41. Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the biggest securities firm, fell $2.84 to $173.86.

 

Credit-market losses will climb to at least $600 billion from $160 billion as investments funded with borrowed money are unwound, UBS credit strategist Geraud Charpin wrote in a note to clients.

 

`Cancer in This Market'

 

``Leveraged risk positions are a cancer in this market and the sooner it is treated the better,'' Charpin wrote. AIG's writedown ``is also the clearest indication that banks are not the only ones to suffer potential losses.''

 

Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Bear Stearns Cos. fell after Deutsche Bank AG analyst Michael Mayo forecast further writedowns of subprime assets and lowered first-quarter profit estimates for the firms. At least five other analysts have cut their first-quarter analysts for banks and brokers in the last two weeks. Lehman fell $1.73 to $52.95. Bear Stearns lost $1.29 to $82.93.

 

Ambac Financial Group Inc. fell 70 cents to $11.10 after CNBC reported that a deal to boost capital at the second-largest bond insurer hit a snag Feb. 27. The group of banks engaged in the bailout will come back with another proposal to keep Ambac together, the financial news network reported. CNBC cited people familiar with the situation.

 

Exxon Mobil and Chevron fell as crude oil retreated 98 cents to $101.61 a barrel and natural gas declined from a two- year high in New York. Exxon fell $1.62 to $87.76. Chevron lost $1.47 to $87.55.

 

Novell, Gap

 

Novell Inc. led the 18 S & P 500 stocks that rose, gaining 37 cents, or 5.7 percent, to $6.91. The second-biggest seller of Linux operating-system software in the U.S. reported a fiscal first-quarter profit that beat analysts' estimates after cutting costs by eliminating jobs and changing sales tactics. The company raised its full-year sales forecast.

 

Gap Inc. rose 92 cents to $20.37. The largest U.S. clothing retailer said fourth-quarter profit advanced for the first time in three years and forecast further gains this year after it sold more full-priced sweaters and jeans during the holiday season.

 

3Com Corp. jumped 55 cents, or 19 percent, to $3.46. Bain Capital LLC and Huawei Technologies Co. plan to reapply within several weeks for U.S. approval to acquire the networking systems and services provider for $2.2 billion, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.

 

Economy Watch

 

The National Association of Purchasing Management-Chicago said its business barometer dropped to 44.5 in February from 51.5 a month earlier. Figures less than 50 signal a contraction.

 

Consumer spending in the U.S. rose more than forecast in January, reflecting a jump in prices that is eroding buying power. The 0.4 percent rise in spending followed a revised 0.3 percent gain in December, the Commerce Department said. The Federal Reserve's preferred measure of inflation climbed 0.3 percent, the most in four months.

 

Yields on Treasury securities slid, sending the two-year note's under 1.8 percent for the first time since April 2004, as investors increased bets on interest-rate cuts by the Federal Reserve.

 

Interest-rate futures indicate traders for the first time assign a higher probability to a three-quarter- point cut than to a half-point cut at the Fed's next meeting on March 18. The odds of a three-quarter point cut implied by futures prices rose to 58 percent from 36 percent yesterday and 2 percent a week ago. The remaining bets are on a half-point cut.

 

The central bank has lowered its target for the overnight lending rate between banks five times since September, most recently to 3 percent on Jan. 30.

 

`Complications'

 

``The market has been of the belief that the Fed's aggressive easing action would relieve the pressures,'' said Henry Herrmann, president of Waddell & Reed Financial Inc., which manages $65 billion in Overland Park, Kansas. ``The complications are not diminishing, they're growing.''

 

Stocks tumbled yesterday after slower-than- forecast economic growth, rising jobless claims and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke's warning of possible failures among smaller banks deepened concern that the economy has tipped into a recession.

cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:14:17 PM Re: Better days in US marketsDear Mr. Raj,Please share the chart details and provide a brief overview of the basic influences behind your prediction.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:>> > > Dear Mr. Thor:> > As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA, the better days in US market have already started. One can see good gains during the months of April and May of 2008.> > Thank you for posting my message.> > Raj Chadha> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.>

[Guest guest]

Hello Mr. Chadha,

 

The proposed chart does not match with various aspects of life and

the current developments. Your prediction made on 11th May is

reproduced below for your reference:

 

Quote

Based on my studies with the help of SA, I see that the period from

now to July 2008, is going to be very productive. It does not mean

that there will not be corrections. But those who will buy or add on

corrections will be amply rewarded.

Unquote

 

This did not show the significant recent setback in US financial

markets. The DOW on 11th May was 13326. In December, 2007, on a

couple of days only it was up by about 2.5%. However, it saw

significant setbacks in February-March 2008 shaking the confidence of

investors. Even currently the DOW index is at 12849 which is lower

than its position as on May 11, 2007.

 

I personally monitored this chart in view of your insistence. This

chart is not the correct chart for US and does not merit discussion

on this list. If you still hold your opinion you may continue to

follow it for your ownself off the list.

 

Best wishes.

 

 

 

 

 

-

Raj Cgadha

SAMVA

Friday, April 18, 2008 11:40 PM

Re: Re: Better days in US markets

 

 

Dear Friends:

 

US stock market looking good in April, as I predicted in February. I

believe it will

continue to do so in the remaining part of April and the month of May

also. Those who bought in February on my suggestion are reaping the

profits. I hope Thor and others give some thoughts now to the US

chart of 7/2/1776, 2:22 PM, Philly, and the usefulness of SRC's

combined with compressed Vimshottri dasha.

 

Raj Chadha

 

Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

 

Dear Raj and Ajay,

 

Allow me to comment on the placements in the chart.

 

I do so directly in the text by you in UPPER CASE.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

 

Raj Cgadha <rkctech

SAMVA

Friday, February 29, 2008 6:58:06 PM

Re: Re: Better days in US markets

 

Dear Ajay:

 

I have provided my chart for USA in my earlier mail to Mr. Thor. You

can analyse it as well. Here are the details once again. July 2,

1776, 2:20-2:25PM, EST, Philadelphia. Libra rising 16:27.

 

Here is my analysis in brief:

GLOBAL COMMENT: A BASIC REASON I LIKED THE LIBRA RISING CHART

EXPLORED BY ME IN 2000/2001 WERE THE STRONG PLACEMENTS IN THE 9TH

HOUSE. I THEREFORE UNDERSTAND YOUR IMPRESSION THAT THE CHART IS

WORTHY OF A COUNTRY LIKE THE USA. THAT SAID, I FOUND THE SUITABLE

STRENGTH AND APPROPRIATE NATAL POTENTIAL GREATER IN THE SAMVA USA

CHART.

 

The economy of the USA (11L) is tied with wars (3L) in foreign

countries (9H).

WAR IS LINKED TO THE 6TH HOUSE. THE PRESENCE OF 3RD LORD JUPITER AND

11TH LORD SUN IN THE MOST EFFECTIVE POINT OF THE 9TH HOUSE WOULD BE

VERY HELPFUL TO BOTH LORDS AND THE HOUSES INFLUENCED. THE OUTCOME,

HOWEVER, WOULD NOT LEAD TO ARMED CONFLICT

It gets involved in foreign conflicts (Rahu ca 6H).

THIS IS A MORE PLAUSIBLE REASON FOR WAR.

Fluctuating wealth of the country (2H ca by Rahu & Moon opposite

Mercury).

THE MOON AS 10TH LORD IN ASPECT TO 12TH LORD, WOULD SUGGEST

INVOLVEMENT IN FOREIGN TRADE, BASED ALSO ON NATURAL RESOURCES, FOOD,

ETC. AS MOON IS FUNCTIONAL INDICATOR FOR THE EXECUTIVE GOVERNMENT,

FOREIGN TRADE, THE FORTUNES OF THESE WOULD BE VERY VOLATILE DUE TO

THE AFFLICTION OF NODES TO THE 10TH AND 4TH HOUSES.

Lawyers have big control (1L, 11L in 9H) in USA.

VENUS IS UNAFFLICTED AND NOT IN MOST EFFECTIVE POINT OF THE 9TH

HOUSE. SUN AS 11TH LORD INFLUENCES THE HOUSE. THE PLACEMENT OF SUN

SUGGESTS GREAT WISDOM AND INFLUENCE IN THE WORLD.

It gets involved in wars easily and wins them (3H ca by 3L).

3RD HOUSE INDICATES INITIATIVE BUT NOT WAR

Many attacks on its leaders (Sat ca Sun).

SATURN IS 5TH LORD PLACED IN THE 12TH HOUSE. THIS SUGGESTS THE 5TH

HOUSE INDICATIONS WOULD NOT PROSPER, EXCEPT ABROAD. THE ASPECT OF

SATURN TO SUN WOULD NOT BE HARMFUL AS SATURN IS A FUNCTIONAL BENEFIC.

Dominance on the world stage (strong Sun, Jup, Ven in Sun-like

house).

YES, THIS WOULD BE CONSISTENT.

Many scientific discoveries (Gemini has strong planets).

OK

Many natural disasters (Ketu ca 8H, 12H).

OK

Oct stock market crashes (transit of Sun in Libra).

I ALSO ARGUED THIS IN AN ARTICLE IN 2001 - THE IDES OF OCTOBER -

BASED ON THE SIMILAR LIBRA RISING CHART FOR TWO DAYS LATER.

Many violences in April (transit of Mercury in Aries).

MARS IS A FUNCTIONAL BENEFIC AS 7TH LORD IN THE CHART. ITS TRANSIT

THROUGH 9TH HOUSE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO ITS INDICATIONS.

etc. etc.

?

 

Please do more analysis yourself.

 

Raj Chadha

ajay sehg <ajaysehg wrote:

Dear Thor,

 

You are right, the recent downfall in US stock markets are clearly

explainable with US samva chart, today i read a message from very

senior Respected SA astrologer.

 

I think if he has more clear chart of US than the present one, he

should present it before SA community so that we all can analyse it.

 

Thanks again Dear Thor for ur good analysis.

 

ajay.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote:

Dear friends,

The US stock market is still highly volatile. It has fallen over 220

points since the open. This is seen clearly in the 20° Cancer rising

SAMVA USA chart.

While the conjunction of transit 3rd lord Mercury and 4th lord Venus

in Capricorn is quite benign and moreover, with these planets now

also in an applying conjunction with natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th

house, which would be helpful, there are many difficult aspects to

contend with in the SAMVA USA chart:

- transit 2nd lord Sun at 16° Aquarius in the 8th house is now

closely aspected by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. This

is a transit often associated with disturbance in the stock market.

- transit Rahu in the 8th house aspects to transit Mars in the 12th

house is still close even if separating. This aspect has been

associated with the unease in the market, and especially the adverse

development for industrial companies.

- transit 6th lord Jupiter at 21° 33' Sagittarius in the MEP of the

6th house and in applying conjunction to natal 4th lord Venus at 23°

51' Sagittarius. This aspect is having an impact to disturb

sentiments and provoke concerns about the housing market.

- moreover, today, transit 1st lord Moon at 23° Scorpio in the 5th

house, it is both debilitated and conjunct natal 8th lord Saturn in

the SAMVA USA chart. This brief aspect is likely especially

disturbing as transit Saturn at 10° 46' Leo and 2nd house is in an

applying 10th house aspect to natal Moon at 7° 23' Taurus and 11th

house of the chart. These aspects would be unsettling for the self-

image of the country and the general sense of well being.

Best wishes,

Thor

Bloomberg

U.S. Stocks Decline on Economic Concern; AIG, Exxon Retreat

By Elizabeth Stanton

Feb. 29 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks tumbled after an industry report

on U.S. business activity fell to the lowest level in seven years and

UBS AG said losses in credits markets may reach as much as $600

billion.

American International Inc., the world's largest insurer, tumbled the

most in two weeks after posting the biggest loss in its 89-year

history. Financial shares slid to a five-week low after UBS said the

fallout from the subprime mortgage market's collapse will be worse

than expected and the National Association of Purchasing Management-

Chicago said production and employment weakened. Exxon Mobil Corp.

and Chevron Corp. led energy producers to their steepest decline

since Feb. 5 after oil slipped from a record.

The Standard & Poor's 500 Index extended its fourth- straight monthly

decline, dropping 23.55 points, or 1.7 percent, to 1,344.13 at 10:19

a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average decreased 202.22,

or 1.6 percent, to 12,379.96. The Nasdaq Composite Index lost 41.86,

or 1.8 percent, to 2,289.71. About 11 stocks dropped for every one

that rose on the New York Stock Exchange. Shares fell in Europe and

Asia.

``There is certainly no shortage of negative news out there,''

Michael Magiera, senior analyst at Manning & Napier Advisors, which

manages $17 billion in Fairport, New York, said in an interview on

Bloomberg Television. ``It's going to be a little while before we

work through some of this.''

The S & P 500 has dropped 2.3 percent in February on concern an

economic slowdown will hurt profits. Earnings for S & P 500 companies

will shrink 1.6 percent this quarter and 0.5 percent next, according

to analysts' estimates compiled by Bloomberg.

$600 Billion

AIG tumbled $3.44 to $46.71. The insurer posted a fourth- quarter net

loss of $5.29 billion, or $2.08 a share, after an $11.1 billion

writedown on derivatives linked in part to subprime mortgages. AIG

said it expects more writedowns this year. Excluding capital losses

and the change in value of some derivatives, the company's loss was

$1.25 a share, missing the 69-cent-profit average estimate of 17

analysts surveyed by Bloomberg.

Citigroup Inc., the largest U.S. bank, slid 60 cents to $24.41.

Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the biggest securities firm, fell $2.84 to

$173.86.

Credit-market losses will climb to at least $600 billion from $160

billion as investments funded with borrowed money are unwound, UBS

credit strategist Geraud Charpin wrote in a note to clients.

`Cancer in This Market'

``Leveraged risk positions are a cancer in this market and the sooner

it is treated the better,'' Charpin wrote. AIG's writedown ``is also

the clearest indication that banks are not the only ones to suffer

potential losses.''

Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Bear Stearns Cos. fell after

Deutsche Bank AG analyst Michael Mayo forecast further writedowns of

subprime assets and lowered first-quarter profit estimates for the

firms. At least five other analysts have cut their first-quarter

analysts for banks and brokers in the last two weeks. Lehman fell

$1.73 to $52.95. Bear Stearns lost $1.29 to $82.93.

Ambac Financial Group Inc. fell 70 cents to $11.10 after CNBC

reported that a deal to boost capital at the second-largest bond

insurer hit a snag Feb. 27. The group of banks engaged in the bailout

will come back with another proposal to keep Ambac together, the

financial news network reported. CNBC cited people familiar with the

situation.

Exxon Mobil and Chevron fell as crude oil retreated 98 cents to

$101.61 a barrel and natural gas declined from a two- year high in

New York. Exxon fell $1.62 to $87.76. Chevron lost $1.47 to $87.55.

Novell, Gap

Novell Inc. led the 18 S & P 500 stocks that rose, gaining 37 cents, or

5.7 percent, to $6.91. The second-biggest seller of Linux operating-

system software in the U.S. reported a fiscal first-quarter profit

that beat analysts' estimates after cutting costs by eliminating jobs

and changing sales tactics. The company raised its full-year sales

forecast.

Gap Inc. rose 92 cents to $20.37. The largest U.S. clothing retailer

said fourth-quarter profit advanced for the first time in three years

and forecast further gains this year after it sold more full-priced

sweaters and jeans during the holiday season.

3Com Corp. jumped 55 cents, or 19 percent, to $3.46. Bain Capital LLC

and Huawei Technologies Co. plan to reapply within several weeks for

U.S. approval to acquire the networking systems and services provider

for $2.2 billion, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people

familiar with the matter.

Economy Watch

The National Association of Purchasing Management-Chicago said its

business barometer dropped to 44.5 in February from 51.5 a month

earlier. Figures less than 50 signal a contraction.

Consumer spending in the U.S. rose more than forecast in January,

reflecting a jump in prices that is eroding buying power. The 0.4

percent rise in spending followed a revised 0.3 percent gain in

December, the Commerce Department said. The Federal Reserve's

preferred measure of inflation climbed 0.3 percent, the most in four

months.

Yields on Treasury securities slid, sending the two-year note's under

1.8 percent for the first time since April 2004, as investors

increased bets on interest-rate cuts by the Federal Reserve.

Interest-rate futures indicate traders for the first time assign a

higher probability to a three-quarter- point cut than to a half-point

cut at the Fed's next meeting on March 18. The odds of a three-

quarter point cut implied by futures prices rose to 58 percent from

36 percent yesterday and 2 percent a week ago. The remaining bets are

on a half-point cut.

The central bank has lowered its target for the overnight lending

rate between banks five times since September, most recently to 3

percent on Jan. 30.

`Complications'

``The market has been of the belief that the Fed's aggressive easing

action would relieve the pressures,'' said Henry Herrmann, president

of Waddell & Reed Financial Inc., which manages $65 billion in

Overland Park, Kansas. ``The complications are not diminishing,

they're growing.''

Stocks tumbled yesterday after slower-than- forecast economic growth,

rising jobless claims and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke's

warning of possible failures among smaller banks deepened concern

that the economy has tipped into a recession.

 

 

 

cosmologer <cosmologer >

SAMVA

Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:14:17 PM

Re: Better days in US markets

 

Dear Mr. Raj,

 

Please share the chart details and provide a brief overview of the

basic influences behind your prediction.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:

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> Dear Mr. Thor:

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> As per my calculations using my USA chart and analysing it with SA,

the better days in US market have already started. One can see good

gains during the months of April and May of 2008.

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> Thank you for posting my message.

>

> Raj Chadha

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