For Rup. The mail that came back from the old group.

[Guest guest]

Dear Rup,

 

This is very interesting case from the point of view of astrological

analysis. I have taken the time as 8.30 (random) to take the lagna to

Gemini and used co-ordinates of Srinagar as that is your place of

birth. You know that once Lagna for a particular day is right all other

things fall into place. (By the way, I do get Moon in last degrees of

Virgo).

 

Now looking at his chart and his hypochondriac behaviour, we have to

see whether there is any link between his mind, intellect and Roga

sthana. Let me make it clear that had I not had his behaviour details

given by you it might not have been possible to point to his

hypochondriac behaviour at first glance.

 

We see that Mrs the 6th lord occupies the lagna indicating that there

could be some roga to the jataka. Lagnesha Mercury is in the 12th and

in

its rasi of debility in the natural zodiac. So there is certainly a

possibility that he will have some ailment. We also look at the aspect

on 6th by Mercury and sun indicating some chronic ailment and normally

attributed it to Pitta and Tridosha.

 

So what makes him a hypochondriac?

 

1) 6th lord in the lagna makes disease or idea of disease very

important for him.

2) Mercury the Karaka for intellect and nervous system acts as if in

debility and aspects the 6th.

3) Sun who is lord of Parakrama disposits Rahu who is connected with

creation of illusion.

4) Moon the karaka for Mind is conjunct Saturn, the ever suspicious one

who is the 8th lord.

5) Both of them are disposited by Mercury the lord of intellect etc.

6) Saturn the suspicious one aspects the Lagna as does Mars the 6th

lord aspects Saturn.

7) 5th house the house of intellect is occupied by Jupiter the one

planet who has a habit of harming one of the indications of bhava

occupied and it also tenants Gulika and Mandi who are said to release

poison in mind or a system, over a period of time

And last but not the least:

8) Venus is Mandipati and Gulikaadhipati and is dispositor of Mercury

and Sun and also aspects the 5th bhava.

 

It is said that when Gulika and Mandi conjoin Jupiter gives difficulty

of or from children and disturbed intellect. As you said he does have

some issues with his son. If I am not mistaken he would however heed to

what his wife says. I would also say that he does not look his age even

at this very moment.

 

I think with all this the reason he consults many medical practitioners

is that mercury the planet of intellect is conjunct sun the Bheshaj

(doctor) and Moon/ Saturn trine such a Sun.

 

Also look at the fact that the kendra Lord Jupiter occupies the trine

causing a Raj yoga and it aspects the 9th, 11th and the Lagna, thus

protecting his health and giving a high level of intellect as far as

his work area is concerned (even otherwise) and Venus the 5th lord

aspects the5th bhava. Though Mercury is in the 12th bhava it does get

vargottama navamsha and rahu occupying the 3rd does make him valorous.

Mercury is communication and Sun owns the 3rd the bhava of

communication. They are together in the 12th bhava of distant lands.

Sun is also the King, so the fact of his having written plan for

Indonesia seems to be logical.

 

One more thing that I would like to comment on is that though 12th

bhava is maranakarana sthana of Sun and many think this makes the bhava

owned by Sun and the Sun itself devoid of strength, I have observed

that people with Sun in the 12th are many a times very powerful in

Politics, Government or in Government service. This perhaps is because

sun aspecting the 6th makes them capable of winning over their enemies

while wielding power of the King. Of course this is my personal opinion

and I could be off by miles.

 

I have tried to analyze the chart to the best of my abilities since we

do not have the correct navamsha lagna with us, given that the time is

not certain, though the Lagna is. Actually with the time I have used, I

see Sun in exaltation and Guru in own navamsha in kendra, Moon and

Mercury vargottama navamsha. So the chart certainly belongs to a very

powerful personality with a lot of energy. No doubt about it.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

 

 

 

Hello Chandra, It is for quite some time that i have been wanting

to discuss the horoscope of an elderly 85 year old uncle with

you.This gentleman suffers from abnormal anxiety regarding his health

and is a hypochondriac in the true sense.The level of his anxiety

over health matters is so much that on any particular day he will ask

to be taken to a general

physician,cardiologist,gastroenterologist,urologist,

homeopath,ayurveda physician,ENT speciallist and ear specialist.And

please do not think that i am exaggerating.This is the total

truth.And it is not as if that this is happening to him now in old

age.Even when he was 45 the position was more or less the same;only

thing being that the anxiety was a little less and those days instead

of visiting 8 doctors in a day he would visit 3.

Now about his horoscope.He has a horoscope prepared at birth by

the then astrologer in Kashmir in the Sharda script and thus

difficult to decipher,more so on account of the horoscope lying in a

torn condition.However,somehow we had deciphered it sometime back

and

it reads as under:- Gemini ascendant with Mars placed therein,Raahu

in the 3rd in Leo,Saturn in the 4th in virgo,Moon and Jupiter in the

fifth in libra,Ketu in the 9th in aquarius,Venus in the 11th in aries

and the combination of Sun/Mercury in the 12th in taurus.The

horoscope shows the Nakshatra of Moon to be Chitra.The place where

the date and time of birth should have been indicated in the

horoscope is torn and these details are therefore not

readable.However i have checked with the ephemeris in detail and find

that for these stars the only date of birth possible is the 27th May

1923.The gentleman has an idea about his date of birth and agrees

that this would be the correct date of birth.However,on looking at

 

the above particulars in greater detail it would appear that during

the period of Mithun Lagna on that day Moon would be in the last

degrees of virgo rather than in libra though the star remains the

same viz.Chitra.The moonsign virgo appears to be more correct also

according to his nature since he is in the habit of criticising

others very often.Also Moon's going to virgo leaves Jupiter alone in

the fifth in libra.This also answers to the native's past life

happenings,like he was known as a very good writer and has drafted

the seven year plans of Malayasia and he has had very bad realtions

with his son all his life.

Considering the above i have been thinking that what is it in this

gentleman's stars that has given him this peculiar quality of being

such an acute hypochondriac.Agreed that the conjuction of moon and

 

saturn can give fears more so if the combo is aspected by mars,but

why these particular fears about health.I would be grateful for ur

opinion in the matter.Regards Rup

[Guest guest]

As for the birth place u r right Chandra,the birth place is

Srinagar,Kashmir.Ur prediction about him not looking his age also is

right.U r also right about him being quite powerful while in

service.He was in the central Govt,in fact in the Indian Statistical

Service and used to be considered one of the pioneers in his field by

ppl.Got a number of UN assignments in his time.However u r not right

about him listening to his wife.He never listened to anyone all his

life,more so his wife. Rup--- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Rup,

>

> This is very interesting case from the point of view of

astrological

> analysis. I have taken the time as 8.30 (random) to take the lagna

to

> Gemini and used co-ordinates of Srinagar as that is your place of

birth.

> You know that once Lagna for a particular day is right all other

things

> fall into place. (By the way, I do get Moon in last degrees of

Virgo).

>

> Now looking at his chart and his hypochondriac behaviour, we have

to see

> whether there is any link between his mind, intellect and Roga

sthana.

> Let me make it clear that had I not had his behaviour details given

by

> you it might not have been possible to point to his hypochondriac

> behaviour at first glance.

>

> We see that Mrs the 6th lord occupies the lagna indicating that

there

> could be some roga to the jataka. Lagnesha Mercury is in the 12th

and in

> its rasi of debility in the natural zodiac. So there is certainly a

> possibility that he will have some ailment. We also look at the

aspect

> on 6th by Mercury and sun indicating some chronic ailment and

normally

> attributed it to Pitta and Tridosha.

>

> So what makes him a hypochondriac?

>

> 1) 6th lord in the lagna makes disease or idea of disease very

important

> for him.

> 2) Mercury the Karaka for intellect and nervous system acts as if

in

> debility and aspects the 6th.

> 3) Sun who is lord of Parakrama disposits Rahu who is connected

with

> creation of illusion.

> 4) Moon the karaka for Mind is conjunct Saturn, the ever suspicious

one

> who is the 8th lord.

> 5) Both of them are disposited by Mercury the lord of intellect etc.

> 6) Saturn the suspicious one aspects the Lagna as does Mars the 6th

lord

> aspects Saturn.

> 7) 5th house the house of intellect is occupied by Jupiter the one

> planet who has a habit of harming one of the indications of bhava

> occupied and it also tenants Gulika and Mandi who are said to

release

> poison in mind or a system, over a period of time

> And last but not the least:

> 8) Venus is Mandipati and Gulikaadhipati and is dispositor of

Mercury

> and Sun and also aspects the 5th bhava.

>

> It is said that when Gulika and Mandi conjoin Jupiter gives

difficulty

> of or from children and disturbed intellect. As you said he does

have

> some issues with his son. If I am not mistaken he would however

heed to

> what his wife says. I would also say that he does not look his age

even

> at this very moment.

>

> I think with all this the reason he consults many medical

practitioners

> is that mercury the planet of intellect is conjunct sun the Bheshaj

> (doctor) and Moon/ Saturn trine such a Sun.

>

> Also look at the fact that the kendra Lord Jupiter occupies the

trine

> causing a Raj yoga and it aspects the 9th, 11th and the Lagna, thus

> protecting his health and giving a high level of intellect as far

as his

> work area is concerned (even otherwise) and Venus the 5th lord

aspects

> the5th bhava. Though Mercury is in the 12th bhava it does get

vargottama

> navamsha and rahu occupying the 3rd does make him valorous. Mercury

is

> communication and Sun owns the 3rd the bhava of communication. They

are

> together in the 12th bhava of distant lands. Sun is also the King,

so

> the fact of his having written plan for Indonesia seems to be

logical.

>

> One more thing that I would like to comment on is that though 12th

bhava

> is maranakarana sthana of Sun and many think this makes the bhava

owned

> by Sun and the Sun itself devoid of strength, I have observed that

> people with Sun in the 12th are many a times very powerful in

Politics,

> Government or in Government service. This perhaps is because sun

> aspecting the 6th makes them capable of winning over their enemies

while

> wielding power of the King. Of course this is my personal opinion

and I

> could be off by miles.

>

> I have tried to analyze the chart to the best of my abilities since

we

> do not have the correct navamsha lagna with us, given that the time

is

> not certain, though the Lagna is. Actually with the time I have

used, I

> see Sun in exaltation and Guru in own navamsha in kendra, Moon and

> Mercury vargottama navamsha. So the chart certainly belongs to a

very

> powerful personality with a lot of energy. No doubt about it.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

>

> R.K.Baqaya wrote:

>

> Hello Chandra, It is for quite some time that i have been wanting

> to discuss the horoscope of an elderly 85 year old uncle with

> you.This gentleman suffers from abnormal anxiety regarding his

health

> and is a hypochondriac in the true sense.The level of his anxiety

> over health matters is so much that on any particular day he will

ask

> to be taken to a general

> physician,cardiologist,gastroenterologist,urologist,

> homeopath,ayurveda physician,ENT speciallist and ear specialist.And

> please do not think that i am exaggerating.This is the total

> truth.And it is not as if that this is happening to him now in old

> age.Even when he was 45 the position was more or less the same;only

> thing being that the anxiety was a little less and those days

instead

> of visiting 8 doctors in a day he would visit 3.

> Now about his horoscope.He has a horoscope prepared at birth by

> the then astrologer in Kashmir in the Sharda script and thus

> difficult to decipher,more so on account of the horoscope lying in a

> torn condition.However,somehow we had deciphered it sometime back

and

> it reads as under:- Gemini ascendant with Mars placed therein,Raahu

> in the 3rd in Leo,Saturn in the 4th in virgo,Moon and Jupiter in the

> fifth in libra,Ketu in the 9th in aquarius,Venus in the 11th in

aries

> and the combination of Sun/Mercury in the 12th in taurus.The

> horoscope shows the Nakshatra of Moon to be Chitra.The place where

> the date and time of birth should have been indicated in the

> horoscope is torn and these details are therefore not

> readable.However i have checked with the ephemeris in detail and

find

> that for these stars the only date of birth possible is the 27th May

> 1923.The gentleman has an idea about his date of birth and agrees

> that this would be the correct date of birth.However,on looking at

> the above particulars in greater detail it would appear that during

> the period of Mithun Lagna on that day Moon would be in the last

> degrees of virgo rather than in libra though the star remains the

> same viz.Chitra.The moonsign virgo appears to be more correct also

> according to his nature since he is in the habit of criticising

> others very often.Also Moon's going to virgo leaves Jupiter alone in

> the fifth in libra.This also answers to the native's past life

> happenings,like he was known as a very good writer and has drafted

> the seven year plans of Malayasia and he has had very bad realtions

> with his son all his life.

> Considering the above i have been thinking that what is it in this

> gentleman's stars that has given him this peculiar quality of being

> such an acute hypochondriac.Agreed that the conjuction of moon and

> saturn can give fears more so if the combo is aspected by mars,but

> why these particular fears about health.I would be grateful for ur

> opinion in the matter.Regards Rup

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rup,

 

With Jupiter aspecting his lagna I thought he would listen to his wife

as Jupiter the 7th lord aspects the Lagna. It seems that the Vargottam

lagna and Mars in the lagna overrode the modifying effects of Guru.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

Rup Krishen Baqaya wrote:

 

 

As for the birth place u r right Chandra,the birth place is

Srinagar,Kashmir.Ur prediction about him not looking his age also

is

right.U r also right about him being quite powerful while in

service.He was in the central Govt,in fact in the Indian Statistical

Service and used to be considered one of the pioneers in his field by

ppl.Got a number of UN assignments in his time.However u r not right

about him listening to his wife.He never listened to anyone all his

life,more so his wife. Rup

Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Rup,

>

> This is very interesting case from the point of view of

astrological

> analysis. I have taken the time as 8.30 (random) to take the lagna

 

to

> Gemini and used co-ordinates of Srinagar as that is your place of

birth.

> You know that once Lagna for a particular day is right all other

things

> fall into place. (By the way, I do get Moon in last degrees of

Virgo).

>

> Now looking at his chart and his hypochondriac behaviour, we have

to see

> whether there is any link between his mind, intellect and Roga

sthana.

> Let me make it clear that had I not had his behaviour details

given

by

> you it might not have been possible to point to his hypochondriac

> behaviour at first glance.

>

> We see that Mrs the 6th lord occupies the lagna indicating that

there

> could be some roga to the jataka. Lagnesha Mercury is in the 12th

and in

> its rasi of debility in the natural zodiac. So there is certainly

a

> possibility that he will have some ailment. We also look at the

aspect

> on 6th by Mercury and sun indicating some chronic ailment and

normally

> attributed it to Pitta and Tridosha.

>

> So what makes him a hypochondriac?

>

> 1) 6th lord in the lagna makes disease or idea of disease very

important

> for him.

> 2) Mercury the Karaka for intellect and nervous system acts as if

in

> debility and aspects the 6th.

> 3) Sun who is lord of Parakrama disposits Rahu who is connected

with

> creation of illusion.

> 4) Moon the karaka for Mind is conjunct Saturn, the ever

suspicious

one

> who is the 8th lord.

> 5) Both of them are disposited by Mercury the lord of intellect

etc.

> 6) Saturn the suspicious one aspects the Lagna as does Mars the

6th

lord

> aspects Saturn.

> 7) 5th house the house of intellect is occupied by Jupiter the one

 

> planet who has a habit of harming one of the indications of bhava

> occupied and it also tenants Gulika and Mandi who are said to

release

> poison in mind or a system, over a period of time

> And last but not the least:

> 8) Venus is Mandipati and Gulikaadhipati and is dispositor of

Mercury

> and Sun and also aspects the 5th bhava.

>

> It is said that when Gulika and Mandi conjoin Jupiter gives

difficulty

> of or from children and disturbed intellect. As you said he does

have

> some issues with his son. If I am not mistaken he would however

heed to

> what his wife says. I would also say that he does not look his age

 

even

> at this very moment.

>

> I think with all this the reason he consults many medical

practitioners

> is that mercury the planet of intellect is conjunct sun the

Bheshaj

> (doctor) and Moon/ Saturn trine such a Sun.

>

> Also look at the fact that the kendra Lord Jupiter occupies the

trine

> causing a Raj yoga and it aspects the 9th, 11th and the Lagna,

thus

> protecting his health and giving a high level of intellect as far

as his

> work area is concerned (even otherwise) and Venus the 5th lord

aspects

> the5th bhava. Though Mercury is in the 12th bhava it does get

vargottama

> navamsha and rahu occupying the 3rd does make him valorous.

Mercury

is

> communication and Sun owns the 3rd the bhava of communication.

They

are

> together in the 12th bhava of distant lands. Sun is also the King,

 

so

> the fact of his having written plan for Indonesia seems to be

logical.

>

> One more thing that I would like to comment on is that though 12th

 

bhava

> is maranakarana sthana of Sun and many think this makes the bhava

owned

> by Sun and the Sun itself devoid of strength, I have observed that

 

> people with Sun in the 12th are many a times very powerful in

Politics,

> Government or in Government service. This perhaps is because sun

> aspecting the 6th makes them capable of winning over their enemies

 

while

> wielding power of the King. Of course this is my personal opinion

and I

> could be off by miles.

>

> I have tried to analyze the chart to the best of my abilities

since

we

> do not have the correct navamsha lagna with us, given that the

time

is

> not certain, though the Lagna is. Actually with the time I have

used, I

> see Sun in exaltation and Guru in own navamsha in kendra, Moon and

 

> Mercury vargottama navamsha. So the chart certainly belongs to a

very

> powerful personality with a lot of energy. No doubt about it.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

>

> R.K.Baqaya wrote:

>

> Hello Chandra, It is for quite some time that i have been wanting

> to discuss the horoscope of an elderly 85 year old uncle with

> you.This gentleman suffers from abnormal anxiety regarding his

health

> and is a hypochondriac in the true sense.The level of his anxiety

> over health matters is so much that on any particular day he will

ask

> to be taken to a general

> physician,cardiologist,gastroenterologist,urologist,

> homeopath,ayurveda physician,ENT speciallist and ear specialist.And

> please do not think that i am exaggerating.This is the total

> truth.And it is not as if that this is happening to him now in old

> age.Even when he was 45 the position was more or less the same;only

> thing being that the anxiety was a little less and those days

instead

> of visiting 8 doctors in a day he would visit 3.

> Now about his horoscope.He has a horoscope prepared at birth by

> the then astrologer in Kashmir in the Sharda script and thus

> difficult to decipher,more so on account of the horoscope lying in

a

> torn condition.However,somehow we had deciphered it sometime

back

and

> it reads as under:- Gemini ascendant with Mars placed therein,Raahu

> in the 3rd in Leo,Saturn in the 4th in virgo,Moon and Jupiter in

the

> fifth in libra,Ketu in the 9th in aquarius,Venus in the 11th in

aries

> and the combination of Sun/Mercury in the 12th in taurus.The

> horoscope shows the Nakshatra of Moon to be Chitra.The place where

> the date and time of birth should have been indicated in the

> horoscope is torn and these details are therefore not

> readable.However i have checked with the ephemeris in detail and

find

> that for these stars the only date of birth possible is the 27th

May

> 1923.The gentleman has an idea about his date of birth and agrees

> that this would be the correct date of birth.However,on

looking at

> the above particulars in greater detail it would appear that during

> the period of Mithun Lagna on that day Moon would be in the last

> degrees of virgo rather than in libra though the star remains the

> same viz.Chitra.The moonsign virgo appears to be more correct also

> according to his nature since he is in the habit of criticising

> others very often.Also Moon's going to virgo leaves Jupiter alone

in

> the fifth in libra.This also answers to the native's past life

> happenings,like he was known as a very good writer and has drafted

> the seven year plans of Malayasia and he has had very bad realtions

> with his son all his life.

> Considering the above i have been thinking that what is it in this

> gentleman's stars that has given him this peculiar quality of being

> such an acute hypochondriac.Agreed that the conjuction of

moon and

> saturn can give fears more so if the combo is aspected by mars,but

> why these particular fears about health.I would be grateful for ur

> opinion in the matter.Regards Rup

>