Welcome to - Satyam, Ashish and Dr. Amit

[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

 

We have got 3 more members with us, Satyam is a new member and he has

great desire to learn astrology, I w'd request to our elders to help him

in learning astrology.

 

He was with the other group where pandit Dakschhina was dominating with

his versions of interpretitions of vedic shastraas and doing all sort of

mischeiveious things.. I had to do a very hard fighting with him and now

his facelift is no more.

 

Ashish and Dr. Amit have been member to our previous group

- " occultandhealing " and they contacted when they didn't find earlier

group in .

 

I w'd also request to Rup Sir to write something on current transit of

planets on Leo.

 

regards,

Lalit.

[Guest guest]

Satyam may start redaing Dr.B.V.Raman's series of books and if he

has any questions i will answer. Rup--- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Group,

>

> We have got 3 more members with us, Satyam is a new member and he has

> great desire to learn astrology, I w'd request to our elders to help him

> in learning astrology.

>

> He was with the other group where pandit Dakschhina was dominating with

> his versions of interpretitions of vedic shastraas and doing all sort of

> mischeiveious things.. I had to do a very hard fighting with him and now

> his facelift is no more.

>

> Ashish and Dr. Amit have been member to our previous group

> - " occultandhealing " and they contacted when they didn't find earlier

> group in .

>

> I w'd also request to Rup Sir to write something on current transit of

> planets on Leo.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

[Guest guest]

Rup Ji, Thanks for your generous offer. Yes, I've few questions. 1) I've 'How to Judge a Horoscope' by BV Raman. For each house, the author has given a) Results of the placement of the lord of the house in different houses b) Results of the placement of different planets in that house. What is the best way to grasp these two. Do I have to remember all the effects Or Is there a gyst of it so that I can derive the effects instead of remembering many combinations? 2) There are books where author's gave the results of planets in different signs, with out considering in which Bhava that sign falls in. Similar question here too. Is there a general principle with which we can derive the effects ? 3) What should be

taken in to consideration when there are contradictions between 1(a), 1(b) and 2 ? Thanks and Regards, SatyamRup Krishen Baqaya <baqayarup wrote: Satyam may start redaing Dr.B.V.Raman's series of books and if hehas any questions i will answer. Rup--- InVedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <mishra.lalitwrote:>> > Dear

Group,> > We have got 3 more members with us, Satyam is a new member and he has> great desire to learn astrology, I w'd request to our elders to help him> in learning astrology.> > He was with the other group where pandit Dakschhina was dominating with> his versions of interpretitions of vedic shastraas and doing all sort of> mischeiveious things.. I had to do a very hard fighting with him and now> his facelift is no more.> > Ashish and Dr. Amit have been member to our previous group> -"occultandhealing" and they contacted when they didn't find earlier> group in .> > I w'd also request to Rup Sir to write something on current transit of> planets on Leo.> > regards,> Lalit.> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games.

Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

[Guest guest]

Satyam,

 

It's so nice to see ur's mail here, finally u r in right place of

learning. Pt. Sanjay Rath and so many others, though spread astrology

the world over, they unnecessarily made it complicated, so many

dashaas and so many agnaas, which may or may not have proper roots in

vedic astrology.

 

The final objective is clarity in prediction and understanding an

issue presented before you, here in the company of 3 elders of the

group, we have been able to to analyze and predict very precisely.

 

Perhapse, I along with u and Saurabh w'd have to raise a mission in

near future to clean up junks put in by branded astrologers. why they

do so is, every explaination of an unknown and complicated matter

makes very good impression before public.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , satyam 108

<satyam_108 wrote:

>

> Rup Ji,

>

> Thanks for your generous offer.

>

> Yes, I've few questions.

>

> 1) I've 'How to Judge a Horoscope' by BV Raman. For each house,

the author has given

> a) Results of the placement of the lord of the house in

different houses

> b) Results of the placement of different planets in that house.

>

> What is the best way to grasp these two. Do I have to remember

all the effects Or Is there a gyst of it so that I can derive the

effects instead of remembering many combinations?

>

> 2) There are books where author's gave the results of planets in

different signs, with out considering in which Bhava that sign falls

in.

>

> Similar question here too. Is there a general principle with

which we can derive the effects ?

>

> 3) What should be taken in to consideration when there are

contradictions between 1(a), 1(b) and 2 ?

>

> Thanks and Regards,

> Satyam

>

> Rup Krishen Baqaya <baqayarup wrote:

> Satyam may start redaing Dr.B.V.Raman's series of books

and if he

> has any questions i will answer. Rup--- In

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > We have got 3 more members with us, Satyam is a new member and he

has

> > great desire to learn astrology, I w'd request to our elders to

help him

> > in learning astrology.

> >

> > He was with the other group where pandit Dakschhina was

dominating with

> > his versions of interpretitions of vedic shastraas and doing all

sort of

> > mischeiveious things.. I had to do a very hard fighting with him

and now

> > his facelift is no more.

> >

> > Ashish and Dr. Amit have been member to our previous group

> > - " occultandhealing " and they contacted when they didn't find

earlier

> > group in .

> >

> > I w'd also request to Rup Sir to write something on current

transit of

> > planets on Leo.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

 

> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!

> Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at

Games.

>

>

> Building a website is a piece of cake.

> Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

>

[Guest guest]

Lalit,I would like to respectfully differ with you on this.Sanjay Ji would be the last person I will ever suspect of deviating from the Vedic astrology. When almost all the books on remedies in the market are just Copy & Paste from Lal Kitab, he came up with a book on Vedic remedies. (Not that I'm critisizing Lal Kitab, but some of the remedies prescribed in it sound Rajasic or Tamasic) . He represents a Parampara and has the responsibility to take forward the principles of his tradition uncontaminated. So it would be incorrect on our part to compare him with just any other astrologer who would come up with his own theory for his selfish gains.We are no where in astrology, how can we ever judge a Jyotish Guru of a Parampara and decide that his calculaions are unnecessary ? Almost all the times Sanjay Ji gives references to the books from which he had taken those principles. I've seen few mails in VA group where few

astrologers felt offended on asking the references, but that is never the case with Sanjay Ji (and other SJC Gurus for that matter). If there are any principles with in the Parampara that are not available in any outside books, he mentions the same. I believe what we see in the books is only a tip of the iceberg and many secrets lie with in the Paramparas (One of the best examples is Nadi astrology). I remember seeing a similar comment by Shri K.N. Rao in one of his articles. So we should actually be thankful to Sanjay Ji for sharing his parampara secrets. And I'm sure those calculations will be required to accurately arrive at the conclusions. Is n't there a difference between saying - "You can expect some good financial gains this year " Vs "You will win a lottery on so and so date" ? We may reach the first conclusion with simiplified procedures, but I'm afraid we will need all the other calculations to arrive at the later. Regards, Satyamlitsol <mishra.lalit wrote: Satyam,It's so nice to see ur's mail here, finally u r in right place of learning. Pt. Sanjay Rath and so many others, though spread astrology the world over, they unnecessarily made it complicated, so many dashaas and so many agnaas, which may or may not have proper roots in vedic astrology.The final objective is clarity in prediction and understanding an issue presented before

you, here in the company of 3 elders of the group, we have been able to to analyze and predict very precisely.Perhapse, I along with u and Saurabh w'd have to raise a mission in near future to clean up junks put in by branded astrologers. why they do so is, every explaination of an unknown and complicated matter makes very good impression before public.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhealing , satyam 108 <satyam_108 wrote:>> Rup Ji,> > Thanks for your generous offer.> > Yes, I've few questions. > > 1) I've 'How to Judge a Horoscope' by BV Raman. For each house, the author has given> a) Results of the placement of the lord of the house in different houses> b) Results of the placement of different planets in that house.> > What

is the best way to grasp these two. Do I have to remember all the effects Or Is there a gyst of it so that I can derive the effects instead of remembering many combinations?> > 2) There are books where author's gave the results of planets in different signs, with out considering in which Bhava that sign falls in.> > Similar question here too. Is there a general principle with which we can derive the effects ?> > 3) What should be taken in to consideration when there are contradictions between 1(a), 1(b) and 2 ?> > Thanks and Regards,> Satyam> > Rup Krishen Baqaya <baqayarup wrote:> Satyam may start redaing Dr.B.V.Raman's series of books and if he> has any questions i will answer. Rup--- In> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"

<mishra.lalit@>> wrote:> >> > > > Dear Group,> > > > We have got 3 more members with us, Satyam is a new member and he has> > great desire to learn astrology, I w'd request to our elders to help him> > in learning astrology.> > > > He was with the other group where pandit Dakschhina was dominating with> > his versions of interpretitions of vedic shastraas and doing all sort of> > mischeiveious things.. I had to do a very hard fighting with him and now> > his facelift is no more.> > > > Ashish and Dr. Amit have been member to our previous group> > -"occultandhealing" and they contacted when they didn't find earlier> > group in .> > > > I w'd also request to Rup Sir to write something on current transit of> > planets on Leo.> >

> > regards,> > Lalit.> >> > > > > > > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games.> > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.> Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles.Visit the Auto Green Center.

Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search.

[Guest guest]

Hi Satyam,

 

I m happy that u initiated something good for discussion, I w'd look

at Group's Elders to post their opinion, Particularly - Rup Sir,

ChandraShekhar Ji, Sridhar Sir and Sunil Nair Ji.

 

Well, Satyam, I believe in mainstream Parmapara of Sages like

Garg,Bhrigu, further by Varahmihira and continued upto Kalyan Verma

the author of Saravali, He belongs to my Place Rewa.

 

In the astrology there is nothing beyond basics and exception given

along with basics like any branch of science.

 

Hardly basics rules are understood in their entirety, so what

happened is, different astrologers concentrated on different things

and came up with their versions which is passed on by him to his

desciple. This has no relevance now, coz, in this age when means of

communications and networking is so easy, we can easily do a

amalgamation of all the offshoots and strengthen the mainstream.

 

Like the one NeechBhanga Yoga, See, it doesn't add additional quality

to one's chart rather it's a combination or exceptions which breaks

the debility (Neecha = Debility, Bhanga = Break), now, what will

happen, the native may get normal results in the context of house and

planet involved in neecha bhanga, I have gone through posts of

followers of different paramparaas, in each parampaara, neecha bhanga

is tried to be understood to their extent and finally in this age we

own responsibility to fine tune and finalize such fractioned

understandings.

 

This is my ideology.

 

I w'd like to know from all elders and every individual of the group.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , satyam 108

<satyam_108 wrote:

>

> Lalit,

>

> I would like to respectfully differ with you on this.

>

> Sanjay Ji would be the last person I will ever suspect of deviating

from the Vedic astrology. When almost all the books on remedies in

the market are just Copy & Paste from Lal Kitab, he came up with a

book on Vedic remedies. (Not that I'm critisizing Lal Kitab, but

some of the remedies prescribed in it sound Rajasic or Tamasic) . He

represents a Parampara and has the responsibility to take forward the

principles of his tradition uncontaminated. So it would be incorrect

on our part to compare him with just any other astrologer who would

come up with his own theory for his selfish gains.

>

> We are no where in astrology, how can we ever judge a Jyotish Guru

of a Parampara and decide that his calculaions are unnecessary ?

>

> Almost all the times Sanjay Ji gives references to the books from

which he had taken those principles. I've seen few mails in VA group

where few astrologers felt offended on asking the references, but

that is never the case with Sanjay Ji (and other SJC Gurus for that

matter). If there are any principles with in the Parampara that are

not available in any outside books, he mentions the same.

>

> I believe what we see in the books is only a tip of the iceberg and

many secrets lie with in the Paramparas (One of the best examples is

Nadi astrology). I remember seeing a similar comment by Shri K.N. Rao

in one of his articles. So we should actually be thankful to Sanjay

Ji for sharing his parampara secrets.

>

> And I'm sure those calculations will be required to accurately

arrive at the conclusions. Is n't there a difference between saying -

" You can expect some good financial gains this year " Vs " You will

win a lottery on so and so date " ? We may reach the first conclusion

with simiplified procedures, but I'm afraid we will need all the

other calculations to arrive at the later.

>

>

> Regards,

> Satyam

>

>

>

> litsol <mishra.lalit wrote:

> Satyam,

>

> It's so nice to see ur's mail here, finally u r in right place of

> learning. Pt. Sanjay Rath and so many others, though spread

astrology

> the world over, they unnecessarily made it complicated, so many

> dashaas and so many agnaas, which may or may not have proper roots

in

> vedic astrology.

>

> The final objective is clarity in prediction and understanding an

> issue presented before you, here in the company of 3 elders of the

> group, we have been able to to analyze and predict very precisely.

>

> Perhapse, I along with u and Saurabh w'd have to raise a mission in

> near future to clean up junks put in by branded astrologers. why

they

> do so is, every explaination of an unknown and complicated matter

> makes very good impression before public.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , satyam 108

> <satyam_108@> wrote:

> >

> > Rup Ji,

> >

> > Thanks for your generous offer.

> >

> > Yes, I've few questions.

> >

> > 1) I've 'How to Judge a Horoscope' by BV Raman. For each house,

> the author has given

> > a) Results of the placement of the lord of the house in

> different houses

> > b) Results of the placement of different planets in that house.

> >

> > What is the best way to grasp these two. Do I have to remember

> all the effects Or Is there a gyst of it so that I can derive the

> effects instead of remembering many combinations?

> >

> > 2) There are books where author's gave the results of planets in

> different signs, with out considering in which Bhava that sign

falls

> in.

> >

> > Similar question here too. Is there a general principle with

> which we can derive the effects ?

> >

> > 3) What should be taken in to consideration when there are

> contradictions between 1(a), 1(b) and 2 ?

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> > Satyam

> >

> > Rup Krishen Baqaya <baqayarup@> wrote:

> > Satyam may start redaing Dr.B.V.Raman's series of books

> and if he

> > has any questions i will answer. Rup--- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > We have got 3 more members with us, Satyam is a new member and

he

> has

> > > great desire to learn astrology, I w'd request to our elders to

> help him

> > > in learning astrology.

> > >

> > > He was with the other group where pandit Dakschhina was

> dominating with

> > > his versions of interpretitions of vedic shastraas and doing

all

> sort of

> > > mischeiveious things.. I had to do a very hard fighting with

him

> and now

> > > his facelift is no more.

> > >

> > > Ashish and Dr. Amit have been member to our previous group

> > > - " occultandhealing " and they contacted when they didn't find

> earlier

> > > group in .

> > >

> > > I w'd also request to Rup Sir to write something on current

> transit of

> > > planets on Leo.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!

> > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at

> Games.

> >

> >

> > Building a website is a piece of cake.

> > Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

> >

 

> Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative

vehicles.

> Visit the Auto Green Center.

>

>

> Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

> Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit,

 

I think attributing, what is said by someone who is said to have learnt

from Visti who in turn learnt from Sanjay, to Sanjay may not be very

fair. I have seen too many students taking any sentence uttered by a

Guru as the ultimate truth without understanding the reference in which

it was perhaps uttered.

 

I agree that Rahu by merely being present in the 11th can not show

earning through dishonest means. I also do not think Sanjay would have

said that. Sanjay is too knowledgeable, to make such a blanket

statement. The way shadow planets give their results is well defined by

the classics and attributing results to Rahu without taking into

consideration the bhava occupied and conjunct, may not be in line with

Jyotish.

 

All Paramparas are worthy of respect. But if something is attributed to

Parampara, then in hindu shastras one has to give pramana by way of

some standard text of the said Parampara. These days there is an

unfortunate tendency to attribute the principles for which no classical

reference is available, to secret Paramparas. Actually it might be

better if the writer says that this is his personal opinion and it

would also be honest. Knowledge being light itself can not be secret

and the words "Secrets of Parampara" are very contradictory in

themselves.

 

Of course this is my personal opinion and others could hold a different

view.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

 

litsol wrote:

 

 

Hi Satyam,

 

I m happy that u initiated something good for discussion, I w'd look

at Group's Elders to post their opinion, Particularly - Rup Sir,

ChandraShekhar Ji, Sridhar Sir and Sunil Nair Ji.

 

Well, Satyam, I believe in mainstream Parmapara of Sages like

Garg,Bhrigu, further by Varahmihira and continued upto Kalyan Verma

the author of Saravali, He belongs to my Place Rewa.

 

In the astrology there is nothing beyond basics and exception given

along with basics like any branch of science.

 

Hardly basics rules are understood in their entirety, so what

happened is, different astrologers concentrated on different things

and came up with their versions which is passed on by him to his

desciple. This has no relevance now, coz, in this age when means of

communications and networking is so easy, we can easily do a

amalgamation of all the offshoots and strengthen the mainstream.

 

Like the one NeechBhanga Yoga, See, it doesn't add additional quality

to one's chart rather it's a combination or exceptions which breaks

the debility (Neecha = Debility, Bhanga = Break), now, what will

happen, the native may get normal results in the context of house and

planet involved in neecha bhanga, I have gone through posts of

followers of different paramparaas, in each parampaara, neecha bhanga

is tried to be understood to their extent and finally in this age we

own responsibility to fine tune and finalize such fractioned

understandings.

 

This is my ideology.

 

I w'd like to know from all elders and every individual of the group.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

satyam 108

<satyam_108 wrote:

>

> Lalit,

>

> I would like to respectfully differ with you on this.

>

> Sanjay Ji would be the last person I will ever suspect of

deviating

from the Vedic astrology. When almost all the books on remedies in

the market are just Copy & Paste from Lal Kitab, he came up with a

book on Vedic remedies. (Not that I'm critisizing Lal Kitab, but

some of the remedies prescribed in it sound Rajasic or Tamasic) . He

represents a Parampara and has the responsibility to take forward the

principles of his tradition uncontaminated. So it would be incorrect

on our part to compare him with just any other astrologer who would

come up with his own theory for his selfish gains.

>

> We are no where in astrology, how can we ever judge a Jyotish Guru

 

of a Parampara and decide that his calculaions are unnecessary ?

>

> Almost all the times Sanjay Ji gives references to the books from

which he had taken those principles. I've seen few mails in VA group

where few astrologers felt offended on asking the references, but

that is never the case with Sanjay Ji (and other SJC Gurus for that

matter). If there are any principles with in the Parampara that are

not available in any outside books, he mentions the same.

>

> I believe what we see in the books is only a tip of the iceberg

and

many secrets lie with in the Paramparas (One of the best examples is

Nadi astrology). I remember seeing a similar comment by Shri K.N. Rao

in one of his articles. So we should actually be thankful to Sanjay

Ji for sharing his parampara secrets.

>

> And I'm sure those calculations will be required to accurately

arrive at the conclusions. Is n't there a difference between saying -

"You can expect some good financial gains this year " Vs "You will

win a lottery on so and so date" ? We may reach the first conclusion

with simiplified procedures, but I'm afraid we will need all the

other calculations to arrive at the later.

>

>

> Regards,

> Satyam

>

>

>

> litsol <mishra.lalit wrote:

> Satyam,

>

> It's so nice to see ur's mail here, finally u r in right place of

> learning. Pt. Sanjay Rath and so many others, though spread

astrology

> the world over, they unnecessarily made it complicated, so many

> dashaas and so many agnaas, which may or may not have proper roots

 

in

> vedic astrology.

>

> The final objective is clarity in prediction and understanding an

> issue presented before you, here in the company of 3 elders of the

 

> group, we have been able to to analyze and predict very precisely.

>

> Perhapse, I along with u and Saurabh w'd have to raise a mission

in

> near future to clean up junks put in by branded astrologers. why

they

> do so is, every explaination of an unknown and complicated matter

> makes very good impression before public.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

satyam 108

> <satyam_108@> wrote:

> >

> > Rup Ji,

> >

> > Thanks for your generous offer.

> >

> > Yes, I've few questions.

> >

> > 1) I've 'How to Judge a Horoscope' by BV Raman. For each

house,

> the author has given

> > a) Results of the placement of the lord of the house in

> different houses

> > b) Results of the placement of different planets in that

house.

> >

> > What is the best way to grasp these two. Do I have to

remember

> all the effects Or Is there a gyst of it so that I can derive the

> effects instead of remembering many combinations?

> >

> > 2) There are books where author's gave the results of planets

in

> different signs, with out considering in which Bhava that sign

falls

> in.

> >

> > Similar question here too. Is there a general principle with

> which we can derive the effects ?

> >

> > 3) What should be taken in to consideration when there are

> contradictions between 1(a), 1(b) and 2 ?

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> > Satyam

> >

> > Rup Krishen Baqaya <baqayarup@> wrote:

> > Satyam may start redaing Dr.B.V.Raman's series of books

> and if he

> > has any questions i will answer. Rup--- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

"litsol" <mishra.lalit@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > We have got 3 more members with us, Satyam is a new

member and

he

> has

> > > great desire to learn astrology, I w'd request to our

elders to

> help him

> > > in learning astrology.

> > >

> > > He was with the other group where pandit Dakschhina was

> dominating with

> > > his versions of interpretitions of vedic shastraas and

doing

all

> sort of

> > > mischeiveious things.. I had to do a very hard fighting

with

him

> and now

> > > his facelift is no more.

> > >

> > > Ashish and Dr. Amit have been member to our previous

group

> > > -"occultandhealing" and they contacted when they didn't

find

> earlier

> > > group in .

> > >

> > > I w'd also request to Rup Sir to write something on

current

> transit of

> > > planets on Leo.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!

> > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy)

at

> Games.

> >

> >

> > Building a website is a piece of cake.

> > Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative

vehicles.

> Visit the Auto Green Center.

>

>

> Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

> Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search.

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Hello Satyam, Sorry for the delay in replying.Had gone out of station for few days.Besides have somehow lost interest in participating in astro discussions. It is true that for determining the effects of any planet in a horoscope one has to consider the effects of the planet in the sign in which it is placed,the effect of the planet in the house in which it is placed and the effect of the planet as lord of a particular house(or two houses) in the house in which it is placed.Your first question is whether all these results have to be remembered to arrive at a conclusion or there is some gist to it.Well my friend,i do not understand what you mean by a gist.As for remembring all these results,i am sure you will agree with me that remembring so much will be very difficult,more so at our ages.The trick is in understanding the results.When you read the results from the books please try to understand why the author has mentioned the particular result.To understand

the results one has to first fully understand the Karaktawa of planets,what each house stands for and what the different signs stand for.If u understand these,over a period of time you will reallise that understanding the final result is not difficult.For example,let us say 12th lord is in 8th house.Now we know 12th lord relates to expenses and 8th house stands for longevity.So the obvious result is expenditure of longevity or in other words not much longevity.Or say Mars is in second house in virgo.Now we know Mars amongst other things relates to surgical operations and virgo relates to intestines,so the possible result of Mars in virgo is operation of intestines.Similarly this mars is in second house and we know Mars relates to sudden things and second house is wealth.So the obvious result would be sudden expenditure.etc.Similarly say Mars is the lord of thr fourth placed in the second house.Now 4th house stands for family immovable propery and second house for wealth.So

the obvious result is that the native will receive immovable property in patrimony.Hope u understand.We can discuss any other example you want to take up.I would further mention here that whereas i do understand some of the results mentioned in the books in the manner indicated above,at times it is not possible to understand all the results in the above manner.In such circumstances it is ok if one can memorise such results.However for those who cannot memorise these results,i would suggest that the results of the particular combination in the horoscope could be read from the books itself while studying a horoscope and then only a conclusion arrived at.This would also eliminate the mistakes that can happen if one depended on memory alone.There is no shame in doing this,for you will find the best lawyers and judges reading the provisions of law from the books before arguing or giving judgement in court,unless of course you want to be like many professional astrologers

who claim to know and cure everything.In fact i follow the same procedure when analysing a horoscope.Say i have 1000 books on astrology.Out of these i have selected 15 to 20 books as my reference books.So whenever i am asked to analyse a horoscope i take out all my reference books,note down the results of the combinations in the horoscope as mentioned in the reference books and then come to conclusions.Ur other question is what should be done if there are contradictions in these results.Well friend the question you have asked is very relevant and its answer is what astrology is all about.However before i answer ur querry let me tell u something about medical diagnosis.Say a patient comes to a doctor and tells him that he is suffering from severe headache over the last 6 months or so.Now the disease could be anything from a brain tumour to constipation to migraine or anything else.So the doctor questions the patient about many other things,eliminates diseases one by one

and finally comes to a question.Thus one can say that for making a final diagnosis the doctor has to make an assessment of all the relevant factors or symptoms.Like you meet a new person,you assess that he is greedy but yet honest,he is quick tempered but not quarrelsome etc and then make a total assessment,ok overall he is a good person.Similarly in astrology you have to make an overall assessment of all the factors,like some black and some white will make grey etc.To quote an example,say moon is in the 8th house,so possibly short life,but there is the aspect of Jupiter on moon and Jupiter is benefic, so it won't be short but could be medium or even more depending on other factors.The trick is in being able to make a proper assessment of all different factors some positive and some negative to arrive at a final conclusion.And this art of making a proper total assessment comes by experience alone.Hope i am clear. RKsatyam 108

<satyam_108 wrote: Rup Ji, Thanks for your generous offer. Yes, I've few questions. 1) I've 'How to Judge a Horoscope' by BV Raman. For each house, the author has given a) Results of the placement of the lord of the house in different houses b) Results of the placement of different planets in that house. What is the best way to grasp these two. Do I have to

remember all the effects Or Is there a gyst of it so that I can derive the effects instead of remembering many combinations? 2) There are books where author's gave the results of planets in different signs, with out considering in which Bhava that sign falls in. Similar question here too. Is there a general principle with which we can derive the effects ? 3) What should be taken in to consideration when there are contradictions between 1(a), 1(b) and 2 ? Thanks and Regards, SatyamRup Krishen Baqaya <baqayarup > wrote: Satyam may start redaing Dr.B.V.Raman's series of books and if hehas any questions i will answer. Rup--- InVedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <mishra.lalitwrote:>> > Dear Group,> > We have got 3 more members with us, Satyam is a new member and he has> great desire to learn astrology, I w'd request to our elders to help him> in learning astrology.> > He was with the other group where pandit Dakschhina was dominating with> his versions of interpretitions of vedic shastraas and doing all sort of> mischeiveious things.. I had to do a very hard fighting with him and now> his facelift is no more.> > Ashish and Dr. Amit have been member to our previous group> -"occultandhealing" and they contacted when they didn't find earlier> group in .> > I w'd also request to Rup Sir to write something on current transit of> planets on Leo.>

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Rup Ji, Thanks for the clarifications. I will try to analyse the results the way you explained and get back to you if I need clarifications. Thanks again. Regards, Satyam. Rup Baqaya <baqayarup wrote: Hello Satyam, Sorry for the delay in replying.Had gone out of station for few days.Besides have somehow lost interest in participating in astro discussions. It is true that for

determining the effects of any planet in a horoscope one has to consider the effects of the planet in the sign in which it is placed,the effect of the planet in the house in which it is placed and the effect of the planet as lord of a particular house(or two houses) in the house in which it is placed.Your first question is whether all these results have to be remembered to arrive at a conclusion or there is some gist to it.Well my friend,i do not understand what you mean by a gist.As for remembring all these results,i am sure you will agree with me that remembring so much will be very difficult,more so at our ages.The trick is in understanding the results.When you read the results from the books please try to understand why the author has mentioned the particular result.To understand the results one has to first fully understand the Karaktawa of planets,what each house stands for and what the different signs stand for.If u understand these,over a period of time you will

reallise that understanding the final result is not difficult.For example,let us say 12th lord is in 8th house.Now we know 12th lord relates to expenses and 8th house stands for longevity.So the obvious result is expenditure of longevity or in other words not much longevity.Or say Mars is in second house in virgo.Now we know Mars amongst other things relates to surgical operations and virgo relates to intestines,so the possible result of Mars in virgo is operation of intestines.Similarly this mars is in second house and we know Mars relates to sudden things and second house is wealth.So the obvious result would be sudden expenditure.etc.Similarly say Mars is the lord of thr fourth placed in the second house.Now 4th house stands for family immovable propery and second house for wealth.So the obvious result is that the native will receive immovable property in patrimony.Hope u understand.We can discuss any other example you want to take up.I would further

mention here that whereas i do understand some of the results mentioned in the books in the manner indicated above,at times it is not possible to understand all the results in the above manner.In such circumstances it is ok if one can memorise such results.However for those who cannot memorise these results,i would suggest that the results of the particular combination in the horoscope could be read from the books itself while studying a horoscope and then only a conclusion arrived at.This would also eliminate the mistakes that can happen if one depended on memory alone.There is no shame in doing this,for you will find the best lawyers and judges reading the provisions of law from the books before arguing or giving judgement in court,unless of course you want to be like many professional astrologers who claim to know and cure everything.In fact i follow the same procedure when analysing a horoscope.Say i have 1000 books on astrology.Out of these i have selected 15 to 20

books as my reference books.So whenever i am asked to analyse a horoscope i take out all my reference books,note down the results of the combinations in the horoscope as mentioned in the reference books and then come to conclusions.Ur other question is what should be done if there are contradictions in these results.Well friend the question you have asked is very relevant and its answer is what astrology is all about.However before i answer ur querry let me tell u something about medical diagnosis.Say a patient comes to a doctor and tells him that he is suffering from severe headache over the last 6 months or so.Now the disease could be anything from a brain tumour to constipation to migraine or anything else.So the doctor questions the patient about many other things,eliminates diseases one by one and finally comes to a question.Thus one can say that for making a final diagnosis the doctor has to make an assessment of all the relevant factors or symptoms.Like you meet

a new person,you assess that he is greedy but yet honest,he is quick tempered but not quarrelsome etc and then make a total assessment,ok overall he is a good person.Similarly in astrology you have to make an overall assessment of all the factors,like some black and some white will make grey etc.To quote an example,say moon is in the 8th house,so possibly short life,but there is the aspect of Jupiter on moon and Jupiter is benefic, so it won't be short but could be medium or even more depending on other factors.The trick is in being able to make a proper assessment of all different factors some positive and some negative to arrive at a final conclusion.And this art of making a proper total assessment comes by experience alone.Hope i am clear. RKsatyam 108 <satyam_108 > wrote: Rup Ji, Thanks for your generous offer. Yes, I've few questions. 1) I've 'How to Judge a Horoscope' by BV Raman. For each house, the author has given a) Results of the placement of the lord of the house in different houses b) Results of the placement of different planets in that house. What is the best way to grasp these two. Do I have to remember all the effects Or Is there a gyst of it so that I can derive the effects instead of remembering many combinations? 2) There are books where author's gave the results of planets in different signs, with out considering in which Bhava that sign falls in. Similar question here too. Is there a general principle with which we can derive the effects ? 3) What should be

taken in to consideration when there are contradictions between 1(a), 1(b) and 2 ? Thanks and Regards, SatyamRup Krishen Baqaya <baqayarup > wrote: Satyam may start redaing Dr.B.V.Raman's series of books and if hehas any questions i will answer. Rup--- InVedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <mishra.lalitwrote:>> > Dear Group,> > We have got 3 more members with us, Satyam is a new member and he has> great desire to learn astrology, I w'd request to our elders to help him> in learning astrology.> > He was with the other group where pandit Dakschhina was dominating with> his

versions of interpretitions of vedic shastraas and doing all sort of> mischeiveious things.. I had to do a very hard fighting with him and now> his facelift is no more.> > Ashish and Dr. Amit have been member to our previous group> -"occultandhealing" and they contacted when they didn't find earlier> group in .> > I w'd also request to Rup Sir to write something on current transit of> planets on Leo.> > regards,> Lalit.> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out.

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