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Saturn Determines the Course of Destiny

 

 

 

by N N Saha

SATURN is considered as the most evil but strong planet out of nine planets. Saturn is barren, name, building, cold, dry, defensive, hard, honest, sincere, masculine, earthy, melancholic, nervous and secretive planet. Saturn causes delay. It can even deny the best things of life. It also disappoints. Disharmony, dispute, difficulty, despondency, defection and differences are the outcome of an evil Saturn. Responsibilities, accuracy, precision, perfectness, and definiteness are dignified saturnine qualities. Plodding, perseverance, patiently working, prudence, economy, saving, endurance, industry, thrift, savings, power to keep secrets, stability, self-control, sense of duty, etc. are attributed to a beneficial Saturn. Saturn is the principle of contraction. It moves things towards stability. It gives the power to save and accumulate wealth. It assists one to acquire landed properties. Saturn gives perfection, precision, sophistication and refinement in every field of activity if posited in angular or trine houses. It rules the solid foundation of things, real estate, permanent buildings and fixed assets. It gives firmness of conviction, prudence, patience, dependability, capacity for hard work and fidelity when dignified. It is the planet of constitutional law. Saturn's influence is heavy, restrictive and lasting. Saturn governs the dried regions of the body i.e. teeth, bones, knees, spinal cord, nerves, spleen and sense of hearing. It gives chronic diseases like neurotic ailment, nervous disorders, spleen disorders, dental troubles, etc. when afflicted. Saturn governs the two signs of the Zodiac i.e. Capricorn and Aquarius, the 10th and 11th houses of the natural Zodiac. He is exalted in Libra, debilitated in Aries and detrimented in Cancer and Leo. Saturn rules elders, debts and repayment, wills and estates, jails, prisons, exile, paper, shoes, stone, legal matters, traditions, the sense of duty, printing, fertilizers, servants, time, limitations, justice, just rewards, old age, old things and the past. Saturn is the Karaka (significator) of the 6th, 8th, 10th and 12th houses. Stupidity, dullness, want of originality, dearth of ideas, laziness and idly wasting time are the outcome of ill posited Saturn. Saturn denotes all matters kept hidden or secret, excavation of tunnels, underground trenches and burial ground. Saturn aspects the 3rd, 7th and 10th houses from its position. His favourite stone is blue sapphire and his metal is steel. During transit, Saturn stays in one sign for 2 and half years.

1. Saturn determines the course of destiny in one's life.

A strong Saturn is absolutely essential in a horoscope to accomplish anything worthwhile, which is why it has been rightly called the planet of destiny, because it appears to be the common denominator in the charts of those who have made their mark in the world. A horoscope with a weak Saturn denotes a weak and colourless person who can't do anything either for himself or for the country. A detrimented Saturn in a trik house causes permanent physical disability and gives the native too many troubles and hardship in his path of progress. He then fails to rise in life and leads a vegetable existence, which has got no meaning at all. A combust Saturn in an evil house along with Mars causes violent accidental death. Astama Sani i.e. Saturn in the 8th along with Mars or any aspect of Mars to Saturn in the 8th also causes violent accidental death like the case of Netaji Subhas Ch. Bose and Martin Luther King. A retrograde Saturn in the 5th or 9th makes one a strong personality or a creative genius. A combust Saturn along with Ketu in the 10th makes one a great political leader. Capricorn is Saturn's home sign where he expresses his best qualities most naturally. Libra is his sign of exaltation and Aries is his sign of fall. Saturn's natural reserve, caution, patience and aptitude for careful planning are at its best in Libra but these same qualities clash with Aries' fire and combativeness. Saturn shows its evil nature most effectively when posited in its detrimented sign Cancer. Saturn is a strong karmic planet. Saturn actually determines the course of destiny in one's career if posited in a strong angular or a strong trine house and the native then rises very high in life despite hardships, troubles and delay. Saturn brings fortunes late in life. Saturn burns away one's past sins by putting him in trouble and distressed. The most remarkable event happens when the conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter is posited in the karmic destiny signs like the 5th or 9th. The 5th house indicates past karmic effects in this life and that is why it is called 'Purva Punya Sthana'. The 9th house shows the future karmic results. The 5th house stands for creative talent and creative self-expression. The 9th house stands for higher intelligence, higher knowledge and higher inner mind. So Saturn expresses its best qualities if conjoins with Jupiter either in the 5th or in the 9th house and the native gets their best benefits. He then rises to the top just like Rabindra Nath Tagore (Jupiter in the 5th); Boris Pasternak (Saturn in the 9th); Edgar Allen Poe (Ketu and Saturn in the 5th); Virginia Wolfe (Saturn and Jupiter in the 5th); John Milton (Jupiter in the 5th); Mark Twain (retrograde Jupiter in the 9th); Satyajit Ray (retrograde Jupiter and retrograde Saturn in the 9th); Lord Byron (Saturn in the 9th) and so on...

2. Saturn creates fortunate and unfortunate moments in life

Grant Lewi in his book 'Astrology for the Millions' has found out one most important theory by which you can your best period in life. According to him, Saturn is the planet of fate and destiny. By making research on its transit movements, he came to the conclusion that transit Saturn when travels from 7th to the 10th house (strongest point in the chart) big political leaders assume their maximum powers and earn name and fame during that time. They recede from name and fame when transit Saturn travels from the 1st to the 4th house (weak points in a chart). By the time when transit Saturn comes in the 4th they all fade away completely or death makes their end. Grant Lewi has applied this theory in the lives of strong men of destiny like Adolf Hitler, Napoleon Bonaparte-1, Kaiser Wilhelm, Benito Mussolini and Marshall Stalin. He found that most of them fade away as soon as transit Saturn entered the 3rd house and when Saturn entered the 4th house, they became practically ruined. Jyoti Basu, Chief Minister of West Bengal was born on 8.7.1914 at 10.50 a.m. His Lagna is Virgo. In 1976 when general election was held, Saturn was placed in his 11th house. This position of Saturn helped him to win over the election and to become a leader of the left front and to form his ministry. Netaji Subhash Ch. Bose was born on 23.1.1897 at 12 noon. His lagna is Aries. He became the President of Indian National Congress in 1938 when Saturn was placed in his 12th house. He did not like Gandhiji's non-violent movement. He believed that Swaraj could not be had by non-violent means. He said: 'Give me blood and I will give you freedom'. Thus he escaped from India and went to Germany in disguise in 1940. He formed his new party INA with Japanese aid in 1943 and launched his fight with the British Army. But he died in a plane crash on 18-8-1945 when Saturn was in his 3rd house. Dr Rajendra Prasad was born on 3-12-1884 at 10.44 a.m. His lagna is Capricorn. He became the first President of India in 1950 when Saturn was transiting in his 10th house. And continued this post up to 1962 when Saturn moved to the first house. Dr Bidhan Chandra Roy, Chief Minister of West Bengal was born on 1.7.1982 at 11.30 a.m. In 1952 he became the Chief Minister of West Bengal when Saturn was transiting in the 8th house. In 1957 he was again re-elected as Chief Minister when Saturn entered his 10th house. This period was his best time during which he did many important changes in West Bengal like (1) Durgapur Steel Plant was established; (2) Kalyani was developed as a model town; (3) Digha was opened as a tourist centre; and (4) Calcutta State Transport Corpn was established and (5) Haringhta Milk Dairy Farm was opened and most of other important works done. But he died of cancer on 1.7.1962 when Saturn entered the first house. From the above, you will find that transit Saturn when travels from the 7th to the 10th house, the native gets the best fortunate results in his life, but starts fading away when transit Saturn enters his 4th house. But this theory is very effective in the case of political leaders only. In other cases this theory is not so effective.

3. Saturn is the creator of all sorts of historical events

Saturn gets detrimented in Cancer. Its ruler the Moon is a strong enemy of Saturn. When transit Saturn enters into Cancer and stays there for 2 and half years and when conjoins with Mars there, world's most important historic events usually happen during that time. When Saturn was in Cancer during August 1621 to 1623 conjoining with Mars about July 1622, Emperor Jehangir was then ruling India and lots of wars and mass killings happened during that time. In England, it conjoined with the accession of King James-I. In France, Cardinal Richlew was then the most powerful personality. When Saturn entered Cancer again in July 1651 conjoined with Mars in August 1652 and entered Leo in Aug. 1653, we found Emperor Aurangzeb forcibly occupied the throne of India by throwing his father Emperor Shahjehan into jail. In England, Cromwell abolished Parliament and England was ruled by military dictatorship. In France, autocracy triumphed. Saturn again entered Cancer on 19.6.1887 and stayed there till 4.8.1889. Mars conjoined with Saturn in Cancer 21.8.1887. During this period, many important historical events took place. India was then under the British Rule. Dadabhai Naoroji became the President of the Indian National Congress which was established in 1885. Surendra Nath Banerjee joined congress and established 'Indian Association'. Gopal Krishna Gokhale formed 'Servants of India Society'. General Lord Dufferin was then the Viceroy of India (1884 and 1888). Bal Gangadhar Tilak declared 'Swaraj is my birth-right and I will have it'. In Germany, Emperor Kaiser Wilhelm-II died at the age of 91 and his son Fredrick-III became the new Emperor. Russia was then under the emperor Czar Alexander-III. President Cleveland of the U.S. extended the Monroe Plan and mediated the conflict between England and Venezuela. Saturn entered Cancer on 6.8.1916 and stayed there till 16.9.1918. Mars conjoined with Saturn in Cancer on 2.9.1917. During this period, the First World War was started and took away millions of lives and it destroyed many properties. In India, terrorists started activities under the leadership of Lokmanya Bal Gangadhar Tilak. In 1916, Lala Lajpat Rai established 'India Home Rule League' in the United States. Bagha Jatin tried to free India by an armed fight with the British soldiers but failed. Mrs. Annie Besant became the President of Indian National Congress. Viceroy Chelmsford introduced Govt. of India Act and Rowlett Act. There was mass firing at Jaliyanwalla Baag on 13.4.1919. The Mahatma Gandhi started his 'Quit India' movement. President Wilson of the U.S. established the League of Nations in 1917. The Great Russian Revolution also took place in 1917. In May 1946 Saturn entered Cancer on 10.6.46 and stayed there till Jan. 1948. Mars conjoined with Saturn in Cancer on 22.9.47. During this time three most important historical events occurred in India, viz., India became independent, Pakistan was created and Mahatma Gandhi died of bullet injury on 30.1.48. In July 1975, Saturn again entered Cancer, stayed there till 26.8.77. In 1976, Smt. Indira Gandhi, the 3rd Prime Minister of India lost her position and power by wrongly declaring the General election. India then came under the Janata Rule. Morarji Desai became the 4th Prime Minister of India. So transit Saturn when comes in Cancer and conjoins with Mars, most important historical events usually happen.

Saturn Determines the Course of Destiny - II

 

 

 

4. Conjunction of Saturn and Mars in Violent signs causes all sorts of natural disasters

 

It is true that the conjunction of Saturn and Mars in a violent sign (Aries, Taurus, Scorpio and Aquarius) causes all sorts of natural disasters like earth quakes, cyclones, volcanic eruptions, typhoons and storms. I will now explain this by examples as under: -

(a) 26.8.1883. Netherlands rocked; eruption of Krekatoas; violent explosions destroyed two-thirds of the Island; 36000 people died; many buildings collapsed. Saturn and Mars were then conjoined in Taurus, a violent sign. Venus and Mercury conjoined in Cancer.

(b) 28.10.1891. Mino and Owain Provinces near Nagoya, Japan severely rocked; 7500 people killed; 2 lac houses destroyed; many rendered homeless. Saturn and Mars at that time conjoined in Virgo. Venus and Mercury also conjoined in Libra.

© 12.6.1897. Assam severely jolted; destroyed many buildings; thousands of people killed. At that time Mars was in Leo and Saturn in Scorpio, both aspecting each other.

(d) 18.4.1906. San Francisco severely jerked; destroyed hundreds of buildings thousands lost their lives. Saturn was in Aquarius and Mars in Aries. Both were placed in violent signs. Saturn had 3rd aspect on Mars. The Sun and Moon conjoined with Saturn in Aquarius.

(e) 15.12.1916. Kemsu, China severely rocked; great landslides occurred killing lacs of people; many buildings were shaken into pieces; lacs of trees uprooted. Saturn was then in Cancer and Mars in Sagittarius. Mars had 8th aspect over Saturn. Ketu and Saturn conjoined in Cancer.

(f) 1.9.1923. Tokyo was severely rocked; many buildings destroyed; lacs of people killed; Rahu and Mars then conjoined in Leo – a fiery sign. Saturn and Rahu are identical planets. So this conjunction in a fiery sign Leo gave the worst natural disaster. From the above, you will find that the conjunction of Saturn and Mars in a violent sign causes all sorts of natural calamities.

5. Whether Astama Sani i.e. Saturn in the 8th is at all harmful

 

Astama Sani i.e. Saturn in the 8th if conjoins with Mars or gets aspects from Mars causes all sorts of violent deaths. Conjunction of Saturn and Mars in violent signs (Aries, Taurus, Scorpio and Aquarius) is a very dangerous affliction which generally causes violent accidental deaths. I will now explain this phenomenon by example horoscopes: -

(a) Death by assassination

Birth-chart: Taurus-Mars and Rahu; Scorpio-Ketu; Sagittarius-Saturn; Capricorn-Sun and Mercury; Aquarius-Venus and the Moon; Aries-Jupiter (Born on 15.1.1929 at 1 p.m.)

This is the horoscope of the American Negro leader of non-violence Dr Martin Luther King who won Nobel peace prize in 1964. He was assassinated on 4.4.1968. Saturn is placed in the 8th aspected by Mars. Conjunction of Mars and Rahu is placed in a violent sign Taurus and in the lagna. These two afflictions caused his violent death. Thus astama Sani i.e. Saturn in the 8th proved to be very evil.

 

(b) Death by plane crash.

Birth-chart: Aries-Ascendant, Mars; Gemini-Ketu; Leo-Jupiter; Virgo-the Moon; Scorpio-Saturn; Capricorn-the Sun, Mercury and Rahu; Aquarius-Venus (Born on 23.1.1897 at 12 p.m.)

This horoscope is of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose who died in a plane crash on 18.8.1945. Saturn is placed in the 8th in a violent sign Scorpio aspected by Mars by its 8th aspect. This single affliction caused his violent death.

© Death by bomb explosion.

Birth-chart: Sagittarius-Ascendant; Capricorn-Rahu; Aries-Jupiter; Cancer-Ketu and Saturn; Leo-the Moon; Virgo-the Sun and Mercury; Libra-Mars. (Born on 25.9.1916 at 12.30 p.m.)

This is the horoscope of Pandit Din Dayal Upadhyay who died of bomb explosion. Saturn is posited in the 8th along with Ketu. Astama Sani proved to be very dangerous in his life.

(d) Death by execution.

Birth-chart: Aquarius-Ascendant, Jupiter; Aries-the Moon; Taurus-Rahu; Virgo-Saturn and Mars; Scorpio-the Sun, Venus, Ketu and Mercury. (Born on 15.11.1891 at 12.15 noon)

This is the horoscope of German Field Marshall Erwin Rommell. He tried to assassinate Hitler in a coup-de-etat but failed. He was the executed by Military Court-Marshal. Saturn is placed in the 8th along with Mars aspected by Rahu. Thus astama Sani proved to be very evil in his life. (Courtesy: Planets & Forecast, November, 1983)

 

With regrds

 

sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna> > dear lalit .> > i got this article from web and its published in Times of astrology> > its regrding ketu> > read and enjoy and apply on charts .> Horoscopic Influences of Ketu by R M Banerjee> 1.0 As a planet Ketu is diametrically opposed to Rahu. When> this southern node of the Moon moves backward through different signs of> the zodiac, it always maintains an angular distance of 180º from its> northern counterpart Rahu. All traits therefore, present in Rahu, are> absent in Ketu. Rahu is materialistic but Ketu stands for spiritualism.> Its assumed lordship over Pisces—the terminal sign of the Zodiac or> the end of the mundane journey for transcendation into the finer world> of spiritualism is perhaps symbolic of Ketu's location in 12th house> because it is here its anti-materialistic traits find the most elegant> expression. In fact Ketu in the 12th house especially in Sagittarius or> Pisces is an excellent sign for spiritual pursuits or long term research> work comparable to Tapasya. Since it is anti-materialistic, Ketu in this> house—the house of bed pleasure—denotes also a disturbed sex> life. In this connection it may be mentioned that results expected of a> planet which are beyond its jurisdiction and domain and which also do> not fit into its Karakatwa can never happen. Ketu cannot give the> Karakatwa effects of Venus and vice versa. Such irrational expectations> are bound to generate frustration and disillusionment. For instance Ketu> always retains its anti-materialistic characteristics independent of its> placement in the chart. In the house of luck, instead of ensuring> material prosperity it can enrich him with philosophical knowledge. Its> placement in the rising sign makes a man of wandering type. Such a man,> even if he is affectionate, his affections fall on persons beyond his> family. He becomes a non-conformist. Similarly, Ketu in the second house> or in the house of current income i.e. the 11th is not a helpful sign> for accumulation or flow money. There is however an exception which> follows from element of suddenness inbuilt into Ketu's character. Thus,> if a strong Ketu with either the 2nd or the 11th lord occupies either> the 2nd or the 11th house, it may create opportunities for unexpected> income. This does not mean that Ketu is conducive to material properity.> It merely means that Ketu can create unexpected event. So it is another> characteristic of Ketu.> 1.1. Thirdly, like Rahu, Ketu is also a first rate malefic but> its modus operandi is entirely different from that of Rahu. If Rahu is a> catalyst, Ketu is basically a depressant. Hindu astrologers assume Ketu> to have no aspect of its own. From this assumption can we logically and> reasonably infer that Ketu's effect is essentially point effect> concentrated on the house of its placement in the basic chart? As a> malefic Ketu has been observed to spoil the house it occupies and as a> depressant it affects both the lordship and karakatwa of the planet with> which it is conjoined in the basic chart. The general principle of> conjunction states when two planets unite in a house, a fusion takes> place which modify their individual characteristics to a considerable> extent. As a result one is prone to give the result of another or some> mixed effects emerge. Ketu on the other hand instead of modifying> characteristics of the associated planet renders it, like a coiled> serpent, functionally immobile. Ketu thus becomes more effective inn> producing its own result during its own period good or bad than its> associated planet.> 1.2. This brings us to the fourth characteristic of Ketu. Ketu> like a coiled serpent is secretive and surreptitious in movement. It has> unique ability to delay a process and make a simple thing complicated. A> good number of examples will be necessary to develop the idea. For> instance, Ketu as a malefic produces good results in the 3rd house, 6th> and 10th and 11th house as has been already stated. Ketu in the 6th> allows the enemy to surreptitiously operate only to be crushed at the> end. Pandit Nehru had the 6th lord Jupiter with Ketu in his 6th house.> The royal enemy undermined his vitality and destroyed the most valuable> part of his life. He however eventually emerged triumphant.> Ketu in the 3rd house gives guts but here also it cannot shake off its> sneaky habits. Hitler had Jupiter-Ketu in the 3rd house in Sagittarius.> He had courage but unscrupulously adopted all dirty tricks to grab the> lands of other independent nations before the formal announcement of the> second world war.> When the lagna lord gets entangled with Ketu, a man's thought process> becomes involved. He cannot play straight. This attribute may help a> philosopher but not a common man. Most of the delays in promotion,> unnecessary complications in service life, reservation, victimisation> due to conspiracy are creation of Ketu due to its unholy conjunction> with 10th lord in the chart or its habitation in the 10th with any one> of the trika lords, viz. 6th, 8th and 12th. Similarly Venus-Ketu may> delay marriage or implicate the native in sex scandal. Diseases which> stealthily enter into body and erupt all of a sudden are contributions> of Ketu. In fact conjunction with the ascendant lord in the 6th. 8th or> 12th houses is extremely bad for health. Similarly its conjunction with> these lords in any house may give rise to diseases relating to that> house. For instance, in the 5th house with the 6th lord it may give rise> to serious type of pancreatitis or intestinal infection. In the 2nd> house with the adverse lord it may give mouth cancer. People reportedly> suffering from piles or rectum cancer may have their ascendant lord with> Ketu in the house of death. To reiterate, Ketu in the realm of disease> is secretive in action but sure to raise its ugly head in the last scene> of the drama. Needless to say, Saturn and Mars aggravate the whole> process.> 1.3. Filthy though (i) a first rate malefic and (ii) an> anti-materialistic (iii) with a cobweb psychic, Ketu gives excellent> result in certain specific areas of life. As a planet it is endowed with> a rare and penetrating insight to see into things. A man blessed with a> powerful Ketu can earn eminence in homoeopathy, astrology,> bio-chemistry, toxicology, or subjects dealing with bacteria, virus and> molecular physics. Renowned homoeopaths and biochemists are often> favoured with Jupiter-Ketu in their birth chart specially in the house> of learning. A successful astrologer may have Venus-Ketu in the> strategic house in his horoscope. Ketu linked with Mercury makes a man> competent statistician who can go behind figures for facts of life. It> will not be out of place to mention that Ketu is always tempered with> benevolent Jupiter. Its mystic qualities find the most cogent expression> through the medium of this natural benefic. Venus though a natural> benefic is highly materialistic. Its conjunction or opposition with Ketu> does not help the later.> 1.4. Lastly, Dasa and Sub-dasa results of Ketu. Barring> exceptional circumstances Ketu is too niggardly to create cheerful> atmosphere during its major period. A prima facie case for this sweeping> generalization rests on the fact that Ketu has no aspect. So forming> exchange and opposition relationship with other planets in the chart> becomes out of question. This together with its tendency to make the> conjoined planet functionally inoperative reduces prospects for varied> result under its major period to a considerable extent leaving its> Karakatwa effects to dominate the scene. These Karakatwa effects, as> already delineated are (i) a depressive backdrop (ii) behind the curtain> secret activities (iii) delay in fructification of events (iv) creation> of unnecessary complications (v) surreptitious entry of fatal diseases> into the body etc. Exceptional circumstances when Ketu has been> empirically observed to give good results during its dasa are (i) strong> placement of its dispositor (ii) powerful aspects of Jupiter on the> radical Ketu and also (iii) its conjunction with the Yogakaraka planet> in a favourable house. Even then its karakatwa effects loom large. Good> results occur against a gloomy backdrop after unnecessary delays and> complications. It is of course true that a man's intuitive faculty may> usually develop during Ketu. A homoeopath or an astrologer may flourish.> A magician may earn reputation. A gambler may unexpectedly gain. A> research scholar in biochemistry or molecular physics may make a> breakthrough in the frontiers of knowledge or a diplomat can> successfully forestall opposition move. All these spectacular events> take place without noise as if these so happen in real life. In other> words Ketu's Karakatwa effects always loom large and eclipse its other> effects.> I do not like to firm up my favoured conclusions with the help> of horoscopes of my choice. Instead I request the request the readers to> verify these results with the help of cross section data at their> disposal. They will invariably come across events like (i) victimisation> due to conspiracy (ii) delay and denial of due promotions (iii) false> implications in scandals (iv) reversion and supersession in service life> (v) sudden transfer to unhealthy place (vi) sudden succumbing to disease> which stealthily creeps into the body, and, of course, (vii) deep long> duration research and probe into the unthought-of area and lastly (viii)> renunciation to take place during Ketu Mahadasa.> 1.5 Ketu's sub-dasa effects either good or bad depends on its> placement in the chart and the specific major period the native has been> undergoing. Here, Ketu has to operate like other planets within the> framework set by the major period lord. Even then, it tries to produce> its own effect. For instance if Ketu is posited either in the 6th, 8th> or 12th house in a chart and the owner of the chart happens to get the> major period of the lord of any of the three trika houses, then Ketu in> its sub-period in the major period of the relevant dasa lord is sure to> produce the most disastrous result. For the trika lord to manifest its> effect, Ketu serves as the most appropriate medium because it is posited> in the house of a trika lord.> Of course, converse will also be true in the case of Ketu's> location via favourable house and the native comes under the dasa> influence of the lord of that favourable house. Here Ketu will have no> option but to give the good effect of dasa lord.> > (Condensed from The Times of Astrology, February, 1990.)> > > > > all the best> > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai anamh.> > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>> > pt.sunilnair <pt.sunilnair > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> mishra.lalit@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sir,> >> > Thanx, now the scene is clear to me, I w'd like to know her> > preferences in relationship, what w'd attract her, we have her> > complete chart at the hand.> >> >> > regards,> > Lalit.> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "appulali"> > appulali@ wrote:> > >> > > Lalit,> > >> > > I meant the points you mentioned below> > >> > > "#2. Some says native will be ultimately of materialisitc> > > nature and will never feel guilt for even misconduct if doing to> > > achieve"> > >> > > Lord of 1 in 9 and Lord of 9 in 11th house( wealth). from moon,> > Guru> > > in 2nd and sani in 11. all towards wealth/great dhana yoga. venus> > > (pleasure) in 7th to Moon. Deb Mars/Guru, Exalted saturn all gives> > > wealth. - good and bad ways.> > >> > > Sridhar> > >> > >> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sir,> > > >> > > > I was waiting for ur's mail, I m keen to understand this native,> > > How> > > > mercury changes the whole scenario,pls. elaborate a little, what> > is> > > > point #2,considering - Mars is in 8th from Moon. Lord of 7th is> > > > debilated, Rahu in 7 and , Saturn ascepting 7th house, does it> > mean> > > > Infidelity in relationship thus seperation, or like what u> > earlier> > > > said working with crooked colleagues.> > > >> > > > Do u mean the good yoga's that u mentioned earlier, now no longer> > > > exist.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > > Lalit.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "appulali"> > > > <appulali@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > lalit,> > > > >> > > > > With mercury the whole scenario changes,I think I will support> > > > point> > > > > #2.> > > > >> > > > > Mars is in 8th from Moon. Lord of 7th is debilated, Rahu in 7> > and> > > > > Saturn ascepting 7th house. Her Spouse may be good person becoz> > > of> > > > > benefics , but need not have Good health and/or long life.> > > > >> > > > > Lord of 4 is exalted with debilitated Guru in it. Sick/handicap> > > > > People in family but idealogical/communist/political. Very> > > > difficult> > > > > people to handle.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Sridhar> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > I m so happy to receive a mail from u, u can understand, in> > the> > > > > given> > > > > > horoscope, Mercurry is placed in 11'th house on Leo, She is> > > > > running -> > > > > > Mars/Jupiter/Saturn till 5'th Nov, Venus is placed in 9'th> > > house.> > > > > Ok,> > > > > >> > > > > > The horoscope is like this -> > > > > >> > > > > > Lagna is Libra - Saturn + Ketu , 3rd H - Moon on> > > Saggitarious,> > > > > 4'th H> > > > > > - Jupitor, 7'th - Rahu , 9'th H - Venus, 10'th H - Mars +> > > > Saturn ,> > > > > 11 H> > > > > > - Mercury.> > > > > >> > > > > > The Navamsha is like this> > > > > >> > > > > > Lagna - Geminy Sat + Jup, 5H Libra - Mercury + Sun + Venus,> > > 6H -> > > >> > > > > Moon> > > > > > + Rahu, 11 H Aries - Mercury, 12 H - Taurus.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Lalit.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > It's a horoscope of a girl, surrounded by not so good people> > and> > > > > > sometimes enough confused, though very hard working and self> > > > > confident.> > > > > >> > > > > > Saturn's aspect on Rahu will play what role in her life> > > > > particularly in> > > > > > love and relationship , What changes will come in her nature> > > and> > > > > liking> > > > > > over the time. Can u tell me more about her and her parents> > as> > > > well> > > > > as> > > > > > her w'd be family, any thing singnificant.> > > > > >> > > > > > Yea, she is hard working and she has a younger sister and one> > > > > younger> > > > > > brother. Even she herself is bit crooked.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "appulali"> > > > > > > appulali@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Lalit, You missed the most planet Mercury, Lord of 9 and> > > > where> > > > > LL is> > > > > > > > placed.> > > > > > > > native's spouse will be good and as Mars has neechabhanga> > > > from> > > > > sun> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > Guru. Does the person have a younger sister?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Saturn+ketu is a Good combo, as Saturn is hard working,> > > Ketu> > > > is> > > > > the> > > > > > > > planet of mistakes and hardwork eclipses mistakes and> > moves> > > > > towards> > > > > > > > balance and pefection. So the person will be very> > > efficient.> > > > For> > > > > > > > character 2nd is clean and Mars is with Sun have strong> > > > > digbala, so> > > > > > he> > > > > > > > may have Ego issues. The only problem with Sa+ke is that> > > the> > > > > person> > > > > > > > may not able to perform death ceremony for one/both of> > his> > > > > parents> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > elders, that will effect the person later on.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Venus in 9th house and ascepted by Moon, is very good and> > > he> > > > is> > > > > > loving> > > > > > > > guy and look for true love. Lot of good yogas Lord of 5> > is> > > > > exalted.(> > > > > > > > as also lord of 4)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Saturn in lagna is not always a great position as it> > > ascepts> > > > > 7th,> > > > > > > > which is his place of debility ( hence will not favor> > Rahu)> > > > and> > > > > he> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > also ascepting Mars/sun in 10th and moon in 3rd, who are> > his> > > > > > enemies.> > > > > > > > Rahu is weak, as MArs is debiltated, so the person may> > not> > > > able> > > > > to> > > > > > > > marry outside his community or go to other ladies. but> > for> > > > the> > > > > same> > > > > > > > reason, he may be associated with such crooked people at> > > work.> > > > > > > > Assuming that mercury is not associated with these> > > positions,> > > > I> > > > > > think> > > > > > > > the person is very fine character, as LL is in 9th house.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Sridhar> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > > > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I wish to understand the nature and instincts of a> > person> > > if> > > > > > Saturn> > > > > > > +> > > > > > > > > Ketu both placed togather in Lagna which is Libra.> > > Jupitor> > > > > aspects> > > > > > > > > lagna placed in 4'th house, but receives aspects from> > Sun> > > +> > > > > Mars> > > > > > > placed> > > > > > > > > togather in 10'th house. The moonsign is Saggitarious,> > > > placed> > > > > in> > > > > > > 3'rd> > > > > > > > > house and Venus the lord of lagna is placed in 9'th> > house> > > > > which is> > > > > > > > > Gemini, 11'th is Mercury.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My queries are :> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1. Some says, the native will be of spiritual nature> > > > because> > > > > of> > > > > > > Saturn> > > > > > > > > and Ketu are togather in lagna.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2. Some says native will be ultimately of materialisitc> > > > > nature and> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > never feel guit for even misconduct if doing to achieve> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 3. Some says native will be a base and mean person,> > will> > > be> > > > > > > deciteful> > > > > > > > > and will never speak truth, whereas, some says, because> > > Sat> > > > > is an> > > > > > > > > Yogkaraka, native will speak truth.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 4. Some says, Native will have multiple lovers and> > > > > relationship> > > > > > > > > and ,majorly from lower community. coz native is> > > influenced> > > > by> > > > > > mean> > > > > > > > > frinds, the effect of Rahu in 7'th and Ketu in lagna.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 5. some says, the 4'th point is not true rahu will only> > > > bring> > > > > some> > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > from other community for love/wedding.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 6. Some says, because of Saturn, the partner may be> > older> > > > > than the> > > > > > > > > native.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Sir, pls. explain and give ur's judgement, I m trying to> > > > > > understand> > > > > > > > > Rahu and Ketu's impact.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Sunil ji, Both articles related with Saturn and Ketu were very informative specially for me,hope in near furture you will also send articles on remaining planets, Regds-javedsunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare ramakrishna dear lalit . Pls see another article on saturn . pls read it for a general awareness Saturn Determines the Course of Destiny by N N Saha SATURN is considered as the most evil but strong planet out of nine planets. Saturn is barren, name, building, cold, dry, defensive, hard, honest, sincere, masculine, earthy, melancholic, nervous and secretive planet. Saturn causes delay. It can even deny the best things of life. It also disappoints. Disharmony, dispute, difficulty, despondency, defection and differences are the outcome of an evil Saturn. Responsibilities, accuracy, precision, perfectness, and definiteness are dignified saturnine qualities. Plodding, perseverance, patiently working, prudence, economy, saving, endurance, industry, thrift, savings, power to keep secrets, stability, self-control, sense of duty, etc. are attributed to a beneficial Saturn.

Saturn is the principle of contraction. It moves things towards stability. It gives the power to save and accumulate wealth. It assists one to acquire landed properties. Saturn gives perfection, precision, sophistication and refinement in every field of activity if posited in angular or trine houses. It rules the solid foundation of things, real estate, permanent buildings and fixed assets. It gives firmness of conviction, prudence, patience, dependability, capacity for hard work and fidelity when dignified. It is the planet of constitutional law. Saturn's influence is heavy, restrictive and lasting. Saturn governs the dried regions of the body i.e. teeth, bones, knees, spinal cord, nerves, spleen and sense of hearing. It gives chronic diseases like neurotic ailment, nervous disorders, spleen disorders, dental troubles, etc. when afflicted.

Saturn governs the two signs of the Zodiac i.e. Capricorn and Aquarius, the 10th and 11th houses of the natural Zodiac. He is exalted in Libra, debilitated in Aries and detrimented in Cancer and Leo. Saturn rules elders, debts and repayment, wills and estates, jails, prisons, exile, paper, shoes, stone, legal matters, traditions, the sense of duty, printing, fertilizers, servants, time, limitations, justice, just rewards, old age, old things and the past. Saturn is the Karaka (significator) of the 6th, 8th, 10th and 12th houses. Stupidity, dullness, want of originality, dearth of ideas, laziness and idly wasting time are the outcome of ill posited Saturn. Saturn denotes all matters kept hidden or secret, excavation of tunnels, underground trenches and burial ground. Saturn aspects the 3rd, 7th and 10th houses from its position. His favourite stone is blue

sapphire and his metal is steel. During transit, Saturn stays in one sign for 2 and half years. 1. Saturn determines the course of destiny in one's life. A strong Saturn is absolutely essential in a horoscope to accomplish anything worthwhile, which is why it has been rightly called the planet of destiny, because it appears to be the common denominator in the charts of those who have made their mark in the world. A horoscope with a weak Saturn denotes a weak and colourless person who can't do anything either for himself or for the country. A detrimented Saturn in a trik house causes permanent physical disability and gives the native too many troubles and hardship in his path of progress. He then fails to rise in life and leads a vegetable existence, which has got no meaning at all. A combust Saturn in an evil

house along with Mars causes violent accidental death. Astama Sani i.e. Saturn in the 8th along with Mars or any aspect of Mars to Saturn in the 8th also causes violent accidental death like the case of Netaji Subhas Ch. Bose and Martin Luther King. A retrograde Saturn in the 5th or 9th makes one a strong personality or a creative genius. A combust Saturn along with Ketu in the 10th makes one a great political leader. Capricorn is Saturn's home sign where he expresses his best qualities most naturally. Libra is his sign of exaltation and Aries is his sign of fall. Saturn's natural reserve, caution, patience and aptitude for careful planning are at its best in Libra but these same qualities clash with Aries' fire and combativeness. Saturn shows its evil nature most effectively when posited in its detrimented sign Cancer.

Saturn is a strong karmic planet. Saturn actually determines the course of destiny in one's career if posited in a strong angular or a strong trine house and the native then rises very high in life despite hardships, troubles and delay. Saturn brings fortunes late in life. Saturn burns away one's past sins by putting him in trouble and distressed. The most remarkable event happens when the conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter is posited in the karmic destiny signs like the 5th or 9th. The 5th house indicates past karmic effects in this life and that is why it is called 'Purva Punya Sthana'. The 9th house shows the future karmic results. The 5th house stands for creative talent and creative self-expression. The 9th house stands for higher intelligence, higher knowledge and higher inner mind. So Saturn expresses its best qualities if conjoins with Jupiter either in the 5th or in the 9th house and the native gets their

best benefits. He then rises to the top just like Rabindra Nath Tagore (Jupiter in the 5th); Boris Pasternak (Saturn in the 9th); Edgar Allen Poe (Ketu and Saturn in the 5th); Virginia Wolfe (Saturn and Jupiter in the 5th); John Milton (Jupiter in the 5th); Mark Twain (retrograde Jupiter in the 9th); Satyajit Ray (retrograde Jupiter and retrograde Saturn in the 9th); Lord Byron (Saturn in the 9th) and so on... 2. Saturn creates fortunate and unfortunate moments in life Grant Lewi in his book 'Astrology for the Millions' has found out one most important theory by which you can your best period in life. According to him, Saturn is the planet of fate and destiny. By making research on its transit movements, he came to the conclusion that transit Saturn when travels from 7th to the 10th house (strongest point in the chart) big political leaders assume their maximum powers

and earn name and fame during that time. They recede from name and fame when transit Saturn travels from the 1st to the 4th house (weak points in a chart). By the time when transit Saturn comes in the 4th they all fade away completely or death makes their end. Grant Lewi has applied this theory in the lives of strong men of destiny like Adolf Hitler, Napoleon Bonaparte-1, Kaiser Wilhelm, Benito Mussolini and Marshall Stalin. He found that most of them fade away as soon as transit Saturn entered the 3rd house and when Saturn entered the 4th house, they became practically ruined. Jyoti Basu, Chief Minister of West Bengal was born on 8.7.1914 at 10.50 a.m. His Lagna is Virgo. In 1976 when general election was held, Saturn was placed in his 11th house. This position of Saturn helped him to win over the election and to become a leader of the left front and to

form his ministry. Netaji Subhash Ch. Bose was born on 23.1.1897 at 12 noon. His lagna is Aries. He became the President of Indian National Congress in 1938 when Saturn was placed in his 12th house. He did not like Gandhiji's non-violent movement. He believed that Swaraj could not be had by non-violent means. He said: 'Give me blood and I will give you freedom'. Thus he escaped from India and went to Germany in disguise in 1940. He formed his new party INA with Japanese aid in 1943 and launched his fight with the British Army. But he died in a plane crash on 18-8-1945 when Saturn was in his 3rd house. Dr Rajendra Prasad was born on 3-12-1884 at 10.44 a.m. His lagna is Capricorn. He became the first President of India in 1950 when Saturn was transiting in his 10th house. And continued this post up to 1962 when Saturn moved to the first house.

Dr Bidhan Chandra Roy, Chief Minister of West Bengal was born on 1.7.1982 at 11.30 a.m. In 1952 he became the Chief Minister of West Bengal when Saturn was transiting in the 8th house. In 1957 he was again re-elected as Chief Minister when Saturn entered his 10th house. This period was his best time during which he did many important changes in West Bengal like (1) Durgapur Steel Plant was established; (2) Kalyani was developed as a model town; (3) Digha was opened as a tourist centre; and (4) Calcutta State Transport Corpn was established and (5) Haringhta Milk Dairy Farm was opened and most of other important works done. But he died of cancer on 1.7.1962 when Saturn entered the first house. From the above, you will find that transit Saturn when travels from the 7th to the 10th house, the native gets the best fortunate results in his life, but starts

fading away when transit Saturn enters his 4th house. But this theory is very effective in the case of political leaders only. In other cases this theory is not so effective. 3. Saturn is the creator of all sorts of historical events Saturn gets detrimented in Cancer. Its ruler the Moon is a strong enemy of Saturn. When transit Saturn enters into Cancer and stays there for 2 and half years and when conjoins with Mars there, world's most important historic events usually happen during that time. When Saturn was in Cancer during August 1621 to 1623 conjoining with Mars about July 1622, Emperor Jehangir was then ruling India and lots of wars and mass killings happened during that time. In England, it conjoined with the accession of King James-I. In France, Cardinal Richlew was then the most powerful personality.

When Saturn entered Cancer again in July 1651 conjoined with Mars in August 1652 and entered Leo in Aug. 1653, we found Emperor Aurangzeb forcibly occupied the throne of India by throwing his father Emperor Shahjehan into jail. In England, Cromwell abolished Parliament and England was ruled by military dictatorship. In France, autocracy triumphed. Saturn again entered Cancer on 19.6.1887 and stayed there till 4.8.1889. Mars conjoined with Saturn in Cancer 21.8.1887. During this period, many important historical events took place. India was then under the British Rule. Dadabhai Naoroji became the President of the Indian National Congress which was established in 1885. Surendra Nath Banerjee joined congress and established 'Indian Association'. Gopal Krishna Gokhale formed 'Servants of India Society'. General Lord Dufferin was then the Viceroy of India

(1884 and 1888). Bal Gangadhar Tilak declared 'Swaraj is my birth-right and I will have it'. In Germany, Emperor Kaiser Wilhelm-II died at the age of 91 and his son Fredrick-III became the new Emperor. Russia was then under the emperor Czar Alexander-III. President Cleveland of the U.S. extended the Monroe Plan and mediated the conflict between England and Venezuela. Saturn entered Cancer on 6.8.1916 and stayed there till 16.9.1918. Mars conjoined with Saturn in Cancer on 2.9.1917. During this period, the First World War was started and took away millions of lives and it destroyed many properties. In India, terrorists started activities under the leadership of Lokmanya Bal Gangadhar Tilak. In 1916, Lala Lajpat Rai established 'India Home Rule League' in the United States. Bagha Jatin tried to free India by an armed fight with the British soldiers but failed. Mrs. Annie Besant became the President of Indian National

Congress. Viceroy Chelmsford introduced Govt. of India Act and Rowlett Act. There was mass firing at Jaliyanwalla Baag on 13.4.1919. The Mahatma Gandhi started his 'Quit India' movement. President Wilson of the U.S. established the League of Nations in 1917. The Great Russian Revolution also took place in 1917. In May 1946 Saturn entered Cancer on 10.6.46 and stayed there till Jan. 1948. Mars conjoined with Saturn in Cancer on 22.9.47. During this time three most important historical events occurred in India, viz., India became independent, Pakistan was created and Mahatma Gandhi died of bullet injury on 30.1.48. In July 1975, Saturn again entered Cancer, stayed there till 26.8.77. In 1976, Smt. Indira Gandhi, the 3rd Prime Minister of India lost her position and power by wrongly declaring the General election. India then came under the Janata Rule. Morarji

Desai became the 4th Prime Minister of India. So transit Saturn when comes in Cancer and conjoins with Mars, most important historical events usually happen. Saturn Determines the Course of Destiny - II 4. Conjunction of Saturn and Mars in Violent signs causes all sorts of natural disasters It is true that the conjunction of Saturn and Mars in a violent sign (Aries, Taurus, Scorpio and Aquarius) causes all sorts of natural disasters like earth quakes, cyclones, volcanic eruptions, typhoons and storms. I will now explain this by examples as under: - (a) 26.8.1883. Netherlands rocked; eruption of Krekatoas; violent explosions destroyed two-thirds of the Island; 36000 people died; many

buildings collapsed. Saturn and Mars were then conjoined in Taurus, a violent sign. Venus and Mercury conjoined in Cancer. (b) 28.10.1891. Mino and Owain Provinces near Nagoya, Japan severely rocked; 7500 people killed; 2 lac houses destroyed; many rendered homeless. Saturn and Mars at that time conjoined in Virgo. Venus and Mercury also conjoined in Libra. © 12.6.1897. Assam severely jolted; destroyed many buildings; thousands of people killed. At that time Mars was in Leo and Saturn in Scorpio, both aspecting each other. (d) 18.4.1906. San Francisco severely jerked; destroyed hundreds of buildings thousands lost their lives. Saturn was in Aquarius and Mars in Aries. Both were placed in violent signs. Saturn had 3rd aspect on Mars. The Sun and Moon conjoined with Saturn in Aquarius. (e) 15.12.1916. Kemsu, China severely rocked; great landslides occurred killing lacs of people; many buildings were shaken into pieces; lacs of trees uprooted. Saturn was then in Cancer and Mars in Sagittarius. Mars had 8th aspect over Saturn. Ketu and Saturn conjoined in Cancer. (f) 1.9.1923. Tokyo was severely rocked; many buildings destroyed; lacs of people killed; Rahu and Mars then conjoined in Leo – a fiery sign. Saturn and Rahu are identical planets. So this conjunction in a fiery sign Leo gave the worst natural disaster. From the above, you will find that the conjunction of Saturn and Mars in a violent sign causes all sorts of natural calamities. 5. Whether Astama Sani i.e. Saturn in the 8th is at all harmful Astama Sani i.e. Saturn in the 8th if conjoins with Mars or gets aspects

from Mars causes all sorts of violent deaths. Conjunction of Saturn and Mars in violent signs (Aries, Taurus, Scorpio and Aquarius) is a very dangerous affliction which generally causes violent accidental deaths. I will now explain this phenomenon by example horoscopes: - (a) Death by assassination Birth-chart: Taurus-Mars and Rahu; Scorpio-Ketu; Sagittarius-Saturn; Capricorn-Sun and Mercury; Aquarius-Venus and the Moon; Aries-Jupiter (Born on 15.1.1929 at 1 p.m.) This is the horoscope of the American Negro leader of non-violence Dr Martin Luther King who won Nobel peace prize in 1964. He was assassinated on 4.4.1968. Saturn is placed in the 8th aspected by Mars. Conjunction of Mars and Rahu is placed in a violent sign Taurus and in the lagna. These two afflictions caused his violent death. Thus astama Sani

i.e. Saturn in the 8th proved to be very evil. (b) Death by plane crash. Birth-chart: Aries-Ascendant, Mars; Gemini-Ketu; Leo-Jupiter; Virgo-the Moon; Scorpio-Saturn; Capricorn-the Sun, Mercury and Rahu; Aquarius-Venus (Born on 23.1.1897 at 12 p.m.) This horoscope is of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose who died in a plane crash on 18.8.1945. Saturn is placed in the 8th in a violent sign Scorpio aspected by Mars by its 8th aspect. This single affliction caused his violent death. © Death by bomb explosion. Birth-chart: Sagittarius-Ascendant; Capricorn-Rahu; Aries-Jupiter; Cancer-Ketu and Saturn; Leo-the Moon; Virgo-the Sun and Mercury; Libra-Mars. (Born on

25.9.1916 at 12.30 p.m.) This is the horoscope of Pandit Din Dayal Upadhyay who died of bomb explosion. Saturn is posited in the 8th along with Ketu. Astama Sani proved to be very dangerous in his life. (d) Death by execution. Birth-chart: Aquarius-Ascendant, Jupiter; Aries-the Moon; Taurus-Rahu; Virgo-Saturn and Mars; Scorpio-the Sun, Venus, Ketu and Mercury. (Born on 15.11.1891 at 12.15 noon) This is the horoscope of German Field Marshall Erwin Rommell. He tried to assassinate Hitler in a coup-de-etat but failed. He was the executed by Military Court-Marshal. Saturn is placed in the 8th along with Mars aspected by Rahu. Thus astama Sani proved to be very evil in his life. (Courtesy: Planets & Forecast, November, 1983)

With regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna> > dear lalit .> > i got this article from web and its published in Times of astrology> > its regrding ketu> > read and enjoy and apply on charts .> Horoscopic Influences of Ketu by R M Banerjee> 1.0 As a planet Ketu is diametrically opposed to Rahu. When> this southern node of the Moon moves backward through different signs of> the zodiac, it always maintains an angular distance of 180º from its> northern counterpart Rahu. All traits therefore, present in Rahu, are> absent in Ketu. Rahu is materialistic but Ketu stands for spiritualism.> Its assumed lordship over Pisces—the terminal sign of the Zodiac

or> the end of the mundane journey for transcendation into the finer world> of spiritualism is perhaps symbolic of Ketu's location in 12th house> because it is here its anti-materialistic traits find the most elegant> expression. In fact Ketu in the 12th house especially in Sagittarius or> Pisces is an excellent sign for spiritual pursuits or long term research> work comparable to Tapasya. Since it is anti-materialistic, Ketu in this> house—the house of bed pleasure—denotes also a disturbed sex> life. In this connection it may be mentioned that results expected of a> planet which are beyond its jurisdiction and domain and which also do> not fit into its Karakatwa can never happen. Ketu cannot give the> Karakatwa effects of Venus and vice versa. Such irrational expectations> are bound to generate frustration and disillusionment. For instance Ketu> always retains its anti-materialistic

characteristics independent of its> placement in the chart. In the house of luck, instead of ensuring> material prosperity it can enrich him with philosophical knowledge. Its> placement in the rising sign makes a man of wandering type. Such a man,> even if he is affectionate, his affections fall on persons beyond his> family. He becomes a non-conformist. Similarly, Ketu in the second house> or in the house of current income i.e. the 11th is not a helpful sign> for accumulation or flow money. There is however an exception which> follows from element of suddenness inbuilt into Ketu's character. Thus,> if a strong Ketu with either the 2nd or the 11th lord occupies either> the 2nd or the 11th house, it may create opportunities for unexpected> income. This does not mean that Ketu is conducive to material properity.> It merely means that Ketu can create unexpected event. So it is another>

characteristic of Ketu.> 1.1. Thirdly, like Rahu, Ketu is also a first rate malefic but> its modus operandi is entirely different from that of Rahu. If Rahu is a> catalyst, Ketu is basically a depressant. Hindu astrologers assume Ketu> to have no aspect of its own. From this assumption can we logically and> reasonably infer that Ketu's effect is essentially point effect> concentrated on the house of its placement in the basic chart? As a> malefic Ketu has been observed to spoil the house it occupies and as a> depressant it affects both the lordship and karakatwa of the planet with> which it is conjoined in the basic chart. The general principle of> conjunction states when two planets unite in a house, a fusion takes> place which modify their individual characteristics to a considerable> extent. As a result one is prone to give the result of another or some> mixed effects emerge. Ketu

on the other hand instead of modifying> characteristics of the associated planet renders it, like a coiled> serpent, functionally immobile. Ketu thus becomes more effective inn> producing its own result during its own period good or bad than its> associated planet.> 1.2. This brings us to the fourth characteristic of Ketu. Ketu> like a coiled serpent is secretive and surreptitious in movement. It has> unique ability to delay a process and make a simple thing complicated. A> good number of examples will be necessary to develop the idea. For> instance, Ketu as a malefic produces good results in the 3rd house, 6th> and 10th and 11th house as has been already stated. Ketu in the 6th> allows the enemy to surreptitiously operate only to be crushed at the> end. Pandit Nehru had the 6th lord Jupiter with Ketu in his 6th house.> The royal enemy undermined his vitality and destroyed the most

valuable> part of his life. He however eventually emerged triumphant.> Ketu in the 3rd house gives guts but here also it cannot shake off its> sneaky habits. Hitler had Jupiter-Ketu in the 3rd house in Sagittarius.> He had courage but unscrupulously adopted all dirty tricks to grab the> lands of other independent nations before the formal announcement of the> second world war.> When the lagna lord gets entangled with Ketu, a man's thought process> becomes involved. He cannot play straight. This attribute may help a> philosopher but not a common man. Most of the delays in promotion,> unnecessary complications in service life, reservation, victimisation> due to conspiracy are creation of Ketu due to its unholy conjunction> with 10th lord in the chart or its habitation in the 10th with any one> of the trika lords, viz. 6th, 8th and 12th. Similarly Venus-Ketu may> delay marriage

or implicate the native in sex scandal. Diseases which> stealthily enter into body and erupt all of a sudden are contributions> of Ketu. In fact conjunction with the ascendant lord in the 6th. 8th or> 12th houses is extremely bad for health. Similarly its conjunction with> these lords in any house may give rise to diseases relating to that> house. For instance, in the 5th house with the 6th lord it may give rise> to serious type of pancreatitis or intestinal infection. In the 2nd> house with the adverse lord it may give mouth cancer. People reportedly> suffering from piles or rectum cancer may have their ascendant lord with> Ketu in the house of death. To reiterate, Ketu in the realm of disease> is secretive in action but sure to raise its ugly head in the last scene> of the drama. Needless to say, Saturn and Mars aggravate the whole> process.> 1.3. Filthy though (i) a first rate

malefic and (ii) an> anti-materialistic (iii) with a cobweb psychic, Ketu gives excellent> result in certain specific areas of life. As a planet it is endowed with> a rare and penetrating insight to see into things. A man blessed with a> powerful Ketu can earn eminence in homoeopathy, astrology,> bio-chemistry, toxicology, or subjects dealing with bacteria, virus and> molecular physics. Renowned homoeopaths and biochemists are often> favoured with Jupiter-Ketu in their birth chart specially in the house> of learning. A successful astrologer may have Venus-Ketu in the> strategic house in his horoscope. Ketu linked with Mercury makes a man> competent statistician who can go behind figures for facts of life. It> will not be out of place to mention that Ketu is always tempered with> benevolent Jupiter. Its mystic qualities find the most cogent expression> through the medium of this

natural benefic. Venus though a natural> benefic is highly materialistic. Its conjunction or opposition with Ketu> does not help the later.> 1.4. Lastly, Dasa and Sub-dasa results of Ketu. Barring> exceptional circumstances Ketu is too niggardly to create cheerful> atmosphere during its major period. A prima facie case for this sweeping> generalization rests on the fact that Ketu has no aspect. So forming> exchange and opposition relationship with other planets in the chart> becomes out of question. This together with its tendency to make the> conjoined planet functionally inoperative reduces prospects for varied> result under its major period to a considerable extent leaving its> Karakatwa effects to dominate the scene. These Karakatwa effects, as> already delineated are (i) a depressive backdrop (ii) behind the curtain> secret activities (iii) delay in fructification of events (iv)

creation> of unnecessary complications (v) surreptitious entry of fatal diseases> into the body etc. Exceptional circumstances when Ketu has been> empirically observed to give good results during its dasa are (i) strong> placement of its dispositor (ii) powerful aspects of Jupiter on the> radical Ketu and also (iii) its conjunction with the Yogakaraka planet> in a favourable house. Even then its karakatwa effects loom large. Good> results occur against a gloomy backdrop after unnecessary delays and> complications. It is of course true that a man's intuitive faculty may> usually develop during Ketu. A homoeopath or an astrologer may flourish.> A magician may earn reputation. A gambler may unexpectedly gain. A> research scholar in biochemistry or molecular physics may make a> breakthrough in the frontiers of knowledge or a diplomat can> successfully forestall opposition move. All these

spectacular events> take place without noise as if these so happen in real life. In other> words Ketu's Karakatwa effects always loom large and eclipse its other> effects.> I do not like to firm up my favoured conclusions with the help> of horoscopes of my choice. Instead I request the request the readers to> verify these results with the help of cross section data at their> disposal. They will invariably come across events like (i) victimisation> due to conspiracy (ii) delay and denial of due promotions (iii) false> implications in scandals (iv) reversion and supersession in service life> (v) sudden transfer to unhealthy place (vi) sudden succumbing to disease> which stealthily creeps into the body, and, of course, (vii) deep long> duration research and probe into the unthought-of area and lastly (viii)> renunciation to take place during Ketu Mahadasa.> 1.5 Ketu's sub-dasa

effects either good or bad depends on its> placement in the chart and the specific major period the native has been> undergoing. Here, Ketu has to operate like other planets within the> framework set by the major period lord. Even then, it tries to produce> its own effect. For instance if Ketu is posited either in the 6th, 8th> or 12th house in a chart and the owner of the chart happens to get the> major period of the lord of any of the three trika houses, then Ketu in> its sub-period in the major period of the relevant dasa lord is sure to> produce the most disastrous result. For the trika lord to manifest its> effect, Ketu serves as the most appropriate medium because it is posited> in the house of a trika lord.> Of course, converse will also be true in the case of Ketu's> location via favourable house and the native comes under the dasa> influence of the lord of that favourable

house. Here Ketu will have no> option but to give the good effect of dasa lord.> > (Condensed from The Times of Astrology, February, 1990.)> > > > > all the best> > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai anamh.> > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>> > pt.sunilnair <pt.sunilnair > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> mishra.lalit@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sir,> >> > Thanx, now the scene is clear to me, I w'd like to know her> > preferences in relationship, what w'd attract her, we have her> > complete chart at the hand.> >> >> > regards,> > Lalit.> >> > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "appulali"> > appulali@ wrote:> > >> > > Lalit,> > >> > > I meant the points you mentioned below> > >> > > "#2. Some says native will be ultimately of materialisitc> > > nature and will never feel guilt for even misconduct if doing to> > > achieve"> > >> > > Lord of 1 in 9 and Lord of 9 in 11th house( wealth). from moon,> > Guru> > > in 2nd and sani in 11. all towards wealth/great dhana yoga. venus> > > (pleasure) in 7th to Moon. Deb Mars/Guru, Exalted saturn all gives> > > wealth. - good and bad ways.> > >> > > Sridhar> > >> > >> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:> > >

>> > > > Dear Sir,> > > >> > > > I was waiting for ur's mail, I m keen to understand this native,> > > How> > > > mercury changes the whole scenario,pls. elaborate a little, what> > is> > > > point #2,considering - Mars is in 8th from Moon. Lord of 7th is> > > > debilated, Rahu in 7 and , Saturn ascepting 7th house, does it> > mean> > > > Infidelity in relationship thus seperation, or like what u> > earlier> > > > said working with crooked colleagues.> > > >> > > > Do u mean the good yoga's that u mentioned earlier, now no longer> > > > exist.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > > Lalit.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >

> >> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "appulali"> > > > <appulali@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > lalit,> > > > >> > > > > With mercury the whole scenario changes,I think I will support> > > > point> > > > > #2.> > > > >> > > > > Mars is in 8th from Moon. Lord of 7th is debilated, Rahu in 7> > and> > > > > Saturn ascepting 7th house. Her Spouse may be good person becoz> > > of> > > > > benefics , but need not have Good health and/or long life.> > > > >> > > > > Lord of 4 is exalted with debilitated Guru in it. Sick/handicap> > > > > People in family but idealogical/communist/political. Very> > > > difficult>

> > > > people to handle.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Sridhar> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > I m so happy to receive a mail from u, u can understand, in> > the> > > > > given> > > > > > horoscope, Mercurry is placed in 11'th house on Leo, She is> > > > > running -> > > > > > Mars/Jupiter/Saturn till 5'th Nov, Venus is placed in 9'th> > > house.> > > > > Ok,> > > > > >> > > > > > The

horoscope is like this -> > > > > >> > > > > > Lagna is Libra - Saturn + Ketu , 3rd H - Moon on> > > Saggitarious,> > > > > 4'th H> > > > > > - Jupitor, 7'th - Rahu , 9'th H - Venus, 10'th H - Mars +> > > > Saturn ,> > > > > 11 H> > > > > > - Mercury.> > > > > >> > > > > > The Navamsha is like this> > > > > >> > > > > > Lagna - Geminy Sat + Jup, 5H Libra - Mercury + Sun + Venus,> > > 6H -> > > >> > > > > Moon> > > > > > + Rahu, 11 H Aries - Mercury, 12 H - Taurus.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > regards,> > > > > >> > > > >

> Lalit.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > It's a horoscope of a girl, surrounded by not so good people> > and> > > > > > sometimes enough confused, though very hard working and self> > > > > confident.> > > > > >> > > > > > Saturn's aspect on Rahu will play what role in her life> > > > > particularly in> > > > > > love and relationship , What changes will come in her nature> > > and> > > > > liking> > > > > > over the time. Can u tell me more about her and her parents> > as> > > > well> > > > > as> >

> > > > her w'd be family, any thing singnificant.> > > > > >> > > > > > Yea, she is hard working and she has a younger sister and one> > > > > younger> > > > > > brother. Even she herself is bit crooked.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "appulali"> > > > > > > appulali@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Lalit, You missed the most planet Mercury, Lord of 9 and> > > > where> > > > > LL is> > > > > > > > placed.> > > > > > > >

native's spouse will be good and as Mars has neechabhanga> > > > from> > > > > sun> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > Guru. Does the person have a younger sister?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Saturn+ketu is a Good combo, as Saturn is hard working,> > > Ketu> > > > is> > > > > the> > > > > > > > planet of mistakes and hardwork eclipses mistakes and> > moves> > > > > towards> > > > > > > > balance and pefection. So the person will be very> > > efficient.> > > > For> > > > > > > > character 2nd is clean and Mars is with Sun have strong> > > > > digbala, so> > > > > > he> > > > > > > >

may have Ego issues. The only problem with Sa+ke is that> > > the> > > > > person> > > > > > > > may not able to perform death ceremony for one/both of> > his> > > > > parents> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > elders, that will effect the person later on.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Venus in 9th house and ascepted by Moon, is very good and> > > he> > > > is> > > > > > loving> > > > > > > > guy and look for true love. Lot of good yogas Lord of 5> > is> > > > > exalted.(> > > > > > > > as also lord of 4)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Saturn in lagna is not always a great position as it>

> > ascepts> > > > > 7th,> > > > > > > > which is his place of debility ( hence will not favor> > Rahu)> > > > and> > > > > he> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > also ascepting Mars/sun in 10th and moon in 3rd, who are> > his> > > > > > enemies.> > > > > > > > Rahu is weak, as MArs is debiltated, so the person may> > not> > > > able> > > > > to> > > > > > > > marry outside his community or go to other ladies. but> > for> > > > the> > > > > same> > > > > > > > reason, he may be associated with such crooked people at> > > work.> > > > > > > > Assuming that mercury is not associated with

these> > > positions,> > > > I> > > > > > think> > > > > > > > the person is very fine character, as LL is in 9th house.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Sridhar> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > > > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I wish to understand the nature and instincts of a> > person> > > if> > > > > > Saturn> > > > > > > +> > > > > > > > >

Ketu both placed togather in Lagna which is Libra.> > > Jupitor> > > > > aspects> > > > > > > > > lagna placed in 4'th house, but receives aspects from> > Sun> > > +> > > > > Mars> > > > > > > placed> > > > > > > > > togather in 10'th house. The moonsign is Saggitarious,> > > > placed> > > > > in> > > > > > > 3'rd> > > > > > > > > house and Venus the lord of lagna is placed in 9'th> > house> > > > > which is> > > > > > > > > Gemini, 11'th is Mercury.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My queries are :> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1. Some

says, the native will be of spiritual nature> > > > because> > > > > of> > > > > > > Saturn> > > > > > > > > and Ketu are togather in lagna.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2. Some says native will be ultimately of materialisitc> > > > > nature and> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > never feel guit for even misconduct if doing to achieve> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 3. Some says native will be a base and mean person,> > will> > > be> > > > > > > deciteful> > > > > > > > > and will never speak truth, whereas, some says, because> > > Sat> > > > > is an> > > >

> > > > > Yogkaraka, native will speak truth.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 4. Some says, Native will have multiple lovers and> > > > > relationship> > > > > > > > > and ,majorly from lower community. coz native is> > > influenced> > > > by> > > > > > mean> > > > > > > > > frinds, the effect of Rahu in 7'th and Ketu in lagna.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 5. some says, the 4'th point is not true rahu will only> > > > bring> > > > > some> > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > from other community for love/wedding.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 6. Some

says, because of Saturn, the partner may be> > older> > > > > than the> > > > > > > > > native.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Sir, pls. explain and give ur's judgement, I m trying to> > > > > > understand> > > > > > > > > Rahu and Ketu's impact.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.

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Vedic Astrologyandhealing , javed khaanzada <javed_khaanzada wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> > Both articles related with Saturn and Ketu were very informative specially for me,hope in near furture you will also send articles on remaining planets,> > Regds-javed> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> Hare ramakrishna> dear lalit .> Pls see another article on saturn .> pls read it for a general awareness > Saturn Determines the Course of Destiny > > by N N Saha > > SATURN is considered as the most evil but strong planet out of nine planets. Saturn is barren, name, building, cold, dry, defensive, hard, honest, sincere, masculine, earthy, melancholic, nervous and secretive planet. Saturn causes delay. It can even deny the best things of life. It also disappoints. Disharmony, dispute, difficulty, despondency, defection and differences are the outcome of an evil Saturn. Responsibilities, accuracy, precision, perfectness, and definiteness are dignified saturnine qualities. Plodding, perseverance, patiently working, prudence, economy, saving, endurance, industry, thrift, savings, power to keep secrets, stability, self-control, sense of duty, etc. are attributed to a beneficial Saturn. > Saturn is the principle of contraction. It moves things towards stability. It gives the power to save and accumulate wealth. It assists one to acquire landed properties. Saturn gives perfection, precision, sophistication and refinement in every field of activity if posited in angular or trine houses. It rules the solid foundation of things, real estate, permanent buildings and fixed assets. It gives firmness of conviction, prudence, patience, dependability, capacity for hard work and fidelity when dignified. It is the planet of constitutional law. Saturn's influence is heavy, restrictive and lasting. > Saturn governs the dried regions of the body i.e. teeth, bones, knees, spinal cord, nerves, spleen and sense of hearing. It gives chronic diseases like neurotic ailment, nervous disorders, spleen disorders, dental troubles, etc. when afflicted. > Saturn governs the two signs of the Zodiac i.e. Capricorn and Aquarius, the 10th and 11th houses of the natural Zodiac. He is exalted in Libra, debilitated in Aries and detrimented in Cancer and Leo. > Saturn rules elders, debts and repayment, wills and estates, jails, prisons, exile, paper, shoes, stone, legal matters, traditions, the sense of duty, printing, fertilizers, servants, time, limitations, justice, just rewards, old age, old things and the past. Saturn is the Karaka (significator) of the 6th, 8th, 10th and 12th houses. Stupidity, dullness, want of originality, dearth of ideas, laziness and idly wasting time are the outcome of ill posited Saturn. Saturn denotes all matters kept hidden or secret, excavation of tunnels, underground trenches and burial ground. Saturn aspects the 3rd, 7th and 10th houses from its position. His favourite stone is blue sapphire and his metal is steel. During transit, Saturn stays in one sign for 2 and half years. > > > 1. Saturn determines the course of destiny in one's life. > A strong Saturn is absolutely essential in a horoscope to accomplish anything worthwhile, which is why it has been rightly called the planet of destiny, because it appears to be the common denominator in the charts of those who have made their mark in the world. A horoscope with a weak Saturn denotes a weak and colourless person who can't do anything either for himself or for the country. > A detrimented Saturn in a trik house causes permanent physical disability and gives the native too many troubles and hardship in his path of progress. He then fails to rise in life and leads a vegetable existence, which has got no meaning at all. A combust Saturn in an evil house along with Mars causes violent accidental death. Astama Sani i.e. Saturn in the 8th along with Mars or any aspect of Mars to Saturn in the 8th also causes violent accidental death like the case of Netaji Subhas Ch. Bose and Martin Luther King. > A retrograde Saturn in the 5th or 9th makes one a strong personality or a creative genius. A combust Saturn along with Ketu in the 10th makes one a great political leader. > Capricorn is Saturn's home sign where he expresses his best qualities most naturally. Libra is his sign of exaltation and Aries is his sign of fall. Saturn's natural reserve, caution, patience and aptitude for careful planning are at its best in Libra but these same qualities clash with Aries' fire and combativeness. Saturn shows its evil nature most effectively when posited in its detrimented sign Cancer. > Saturn is a strong karmic planet. Saturn actually determines the course of destiny in one's career if posited in a strong angular or a strong trine house and the native then rises very high in life despite hardships, troubles and delay. Saturn brings fortunes late in life. Saturn burns away one's past sins by putting him in trouble and distressed. The most remarkable event happens when the conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter is posited in the karmic destiny signs like the 5th or 9th. The 5th house indicates past karmic effects in this life and that is why it is called 'Purva Punya Sthana'. The 9th house shows the future karmic results. The 5th house stands for creative talent and creative self-expression. The 9th house stands for higher intelligence, higher knowledge and higher inner mind. So Saturn expresses its best qualities if conjoins with Jupiter either in the 5th or in the 9th house and the native gets their best benefits. He then rises to the top just like> Rabindra Nath Tagore (Jupiter in the 5th); Boris Pasternak (Saturn in the 9th); Edgar Allen Poe (Ketu and Saturn in the 5th); Virginia Wolfe (Saturn and Jupiter in the 5th); John Milton (Jupiter in the 5th); Mark Twain (retrograde Jupiter in the 9th); Satyajit Ray (retrograde Jupiter and retrograde Saturn in the 9th); Lord Byron (Saturn in the 9th) and so on... > > > 2. Saturn creates fortunate and unfortunate moments in life > Grant Lewi in his book 'Astrology for the Millions' has found out one most important theory by which you can your best period in life. According to him, Saturn is the planet of fate and destiny. By making research on its transit movements, he came to the conclusion that transit Saturn when travels from 7th to the 10th house (strongest point in the chart) big political leaders assume their maximum powers and earn name and fame during that time. They recede from name and fame when transit Saturn travels from the 1st to the 4th house (weak points in a chart). By the time when transit Saturn comes in the 4th they all fade away completely or death makes their end. > Grant Lewi has applied this theory in the lives of strong men of destiny like Adolf Hitler, Napoleon Bonaparte-1, Kaiser Wilhelm, Benito Mussolini and Marshall Stalin. He found that most of them fade away as soon as transit Saturn entered the 3rd house and when Saturn entered the 4th house, they became practically ruined. > Jyoti Basu, Chief Minister of West Bengal was born on 8.7.1914 at 10.50 a.m. His Lagna is Virgo. In 1976 when general election was held, Saturn was placed in his 11th house. This position of Saturn helped him to win over the election and to become a leader of the left front and to form his ministry. > Netaji Subhash Ch. Bose was born on 23.1.1897 at 12 noon. His lagna is Aries. He became the President of Indian National Congress in 1938 when Saturn was placed in his 12th house. He did not like Gandhiji's non-violent movement. He believed that Swaraj could not be had by non-violent means. He said: 'Give me blood and I will give you freedom'. Thus he escaped from India and went to Germany in disguise in 1940. He formed his new party INA with Japanese aid in 1943 and launched his fight with the British Army. But he died in a plane crash on 18-8-1945 when Saturn was in his 3rd house. > Dr Rajendra Prasad was born on 3-12-1884 at 10.44 a.m. His lagna is Capricorn. He became the first President of India in 1950 when Saturn was transiting in his 10th house. And continued this post up to 1962 when Saturn moved to the first house. > Dr Bidhan Chandra Roy, Chief Minister of West Bengal was born on 1.7.1982 at 11.30 a.m. In 1952 he became the Chief Minister of West Bengal when Saturn was transiting in the 8th house. In 1957 he was again re-elected as Chief Minister when Saturn entered his 10th house. This period was his best time during which he did many important changes in West Bengal like (1) Durgapur Steel Plant was established; (2) Kalyani was developed as a model town; (3) Digha was opened as a tourist centre; and (4) Calcutta State Transport Corpn was established and (5) Haringhta Milk Dairy Farm was opened and most of other important works done. But he died of cancer on 1.7.1962 when Saturn entered the first house. > From the above, you will find that transit Saturn when travels from the 7th to the 10th house, the native gets the best fortunate results in his life, but starts fading away when transit Saturn enters his 4th house. But this theory is very effective in the case of political leaders only. In other cases this theory is not so effective. > > > 3. Saturn is the creator of all sorts of historical events > Saturn gets detrimented in Cancer. Its ruler the Moon is a strong enemy of Saturn. When transit Saturn enters into Cancer and stays there for 2 and half years and when conjoins with Mars there, world's most important historic events usually happen during that time. > When Saturn was in Cancer during August 1621 to 1623 conjoining with Mars about July 1622, Emperor Jehangir was then ruling India and lots of wars and mass killings happened during that time. In England, it conjoined with the accession of King James-I. In France, Cardinal Richlew was then the most powerful personality. > When Saturn entered Cancer again in July 1651 conjoined with Mars in August 1652 and entered Leo in Aug. 1653, we found Emperor Aurangzeb forcibly occupied the throne of India by throwing his father Emperor Shahjehan into jail. In England, Cromwell abolished Parliament and England was ruled by military dictatorship. In France, autocracy triumphed. > Saturn again entered Cancer on 19.6.1887 and stayed there till 4.8.1889. Mars conjoined with Saturn in Cancer 21.8.1887. During this period, many important historical events took place. India was then under the British Rule. Dadabhai Naoroji became the President of the Indian National Congress which was established in 1885. Surendra Nath Banerjee joined congress and established 'Indian Association'. Gopal Krishna Gokhale formed 'Servants of India Society'. General Lord Dufferin was then the Viceroy of India (1884 and 1888). Bal Gangadhar Tilak declared 'Swaraj is my birth-right and I will have it'. In Germany, Emperor Kaiser Wilhelm-II died at the age of 91 and his son Fredrick-III became the new Emperor. Russia was then under the emperor Czar Alexander-III. President Cleveland of the U.S. extended the Monroe Plan and mediated the conflict between England and Venezuela. > Saturn entered Cancer on 6.8.1916 and stayed there till 16.9.1918. Mars conjoined with Saturn in Cancer on 2.9.1917. During this period, the First World War was started and took away millions of lives and it destroyed many properties. In India, terrorists started activities under the leadership of Lokmanya Bal Gangadhar Tilak. In 1916, Lala Lajpat Rai established 'India Home Rule League' in the United States. Bagha Jatin tried to free India by an armed fight with the British soldiers but failed. Mrs. Annie Besant became the President of Indian National Congress. Viceroy Chelmsford introduced Govt. of India Act and Rowlett Act. There was mass firing at Jaliyanwalla Baag on 13.4.1919. The Mahatma Gandhi started his 'Quit India' movement. President Wilson of the U.S. established the League of Nations in 1917. The Great Russian Revolution also took place in 1917. > In May 1946 Saturn entered Cancer on 10.6.46 and stayed there till Jan. 1948. Mars conjoined with Saturn in Cancer on 22.9.47. During this time three most important historical events occurred in India, viz., India became independent, Pakistan was created and Mahatma Gandhi died of bullet injury on 30.1.48. > In July 1975, Saturn again entered Cancer, stayed there till 26.8.77. In 1976, Smt. Indira Gandhi, the 3rd Prime Minister of India lost her position and power by wrongly declaring the General election. India then came under the Janata Rule. Morarji Desai became the 4th Prime Minister of India. > So transit Saturn when comes in Cancer and conjoins with Mars, most important historical events usually happen. > > > Saturn Determines the Course of Destiny - II > > 4. Conjunction of Saturn and Mars in Violent signs causes all sorts of natural disasters > > It is true that the conjunction of Saturn and Mars in a violent sign (Aries, Taurus, Scorpio and Aquarius) causes all sorts of natural disasters like earth quakes, cyclones, volcanic eruptions, typhoons and storms. I will now explain this by examples as under: - > (a) 26.8.1883. Netherlands rocked; eruption of Krekatoas; violent explosions destroyed two-thirds of the Island; 36000 people died; many buildings collapsed. Saturn and Mars were then conjoined in Taurus, a violent sign. Venus and Mercury conjoined in Cancer. > (b) 28.10.1891. Mino and Owain Provinces near Nagoya, Japan severely rocked; 7500 people killed; 2 lac houses destroyed; many rendered homeless. Saturn and Mars at that time conjoined in Virgo. Venus and Mercury also conjoined in Libra. > © 12.6.1897. Assam severely jolted; destroyed many buildings; thousands of people killed. At that time Mars was in Leo and Saturn in Scorpio, both aspecting each other. > (d) 18.4.1906. San Francisco severely jerked; destroyed hundreds of buildings thousands lost their lives. Saturn was in Aquarius and Mars in Aries. Both were placed in violent signs. Saturn had 3rd aspect on Mars. The Sun and Moon conjoined with Saturn in Aquarius. > (e) 15.12.1916. Kemsu, China severely rocked; great landslides occurred killing lacs of people; many buildings were shaken into pieces; lacs of trees uprooted. Saturn was then in Cancer and Mars in Sagittarius. Mars had 8th aspect over Saturn. Ketu and Saturn conjoined in Cancer. > (f) 1.9.1923. Tokyo was severely rocked; many buildings destroyed; lacs of people killed; Rahu and Mars then conjoined in Leo – a fiery sign. Saturn and Rahu are identical planets. So this conjunction in a fiery sign Leo gave the worst natural disaster. From the above, you will find that the conjunction of Saturn and Mars in a violent sign causes all sorts of natural calamities. > > 5. Whether Astama Sani i.e. Saturn in the 8th is at all harmful > > Astama Sani i.e. Saturn in the 8th if conjoins with Mars or gets aspects from Mars causes all sorts of violent deaths. Conjunction of Saturn and Mars in violent signs (Aries, Taurus, Scorpio and Aquarius) is a very dangerous affliction which generally causes violent accidental deaths. I will now explain this phenomenon by example horoscopes: - > (a) Death by assassination > Birth-chart: Taurus-Mars and Rahu; Scorpio-Ketu; Sagittarius-Saturn; Capricorn-Sun and Mercury; Aquarius-Venus and the Moon; Aries-Jupiter (Born on 15.1.1929 at 1 p.m.) > This is the horoscope of the American Negro leader of non-violence Dr Martin Luther King who won Nobel peace prize in 1964. He was assassinated on 4.4.1968. Saturn is placed in the 8th aspected by Mars. Conjunction of Mars and Rahu is placed in a violent sign Taurus and in the lagna. These two afflictions caused his violent death. Thus astama Sani i.e. Saturn in the 8th proved to be very evil. > (b) Death by plane crash. > Birth-chart: Aries-Ascendant, Mars; Gemini-Ketu; Leo-Jupiter; Virgo-the Moon; Scorpio-Saturn; Capricorn-the Sun, Mercury and Rahu; Aquarius-Venus (Born on 23.1.1897 at 12 p.m.) > This horoscope is of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose who died in a plane crash on 18.8.1945. Saturn is placed in the 8th in a violent sign Scorpio aspected by Mars by its 8th aspect. This single affliction caused his violent death. > © Death by bomb explosion. > Birth-chart: Sagittarius-Ascendant; Capricorn-Rahu; Aries-Jupiter; Cancer-Ketu and Saturn; Leo-the Moon; Virgo-the Sun and Mercury; Libra-Mars. (Born on 25.9.1916 at 12.30 p.m.) > This is the horoscope of Pandit Din Dayal Upadhyay who died of bomb explosion. Saturn is posited in the 8th along with Ketu. Astama Sani proved to be very dangerous in his life. > (d) Death by execution. > Birth-chart: Aquarius-Ascendant, Jupiter; Aries-the Moon; Taurus-Rahu; Virgo-Saturn and Mars; Scorpio-the Sun, Venus, Ketu and Mercury. (Born on 15.11.1891 at 12.15 noon) > This is the horoscope of German Field Marshall Erwin Rommell. He tried to assassinate Hitler in a coup-de-etat but failed. He was the executed by Military Court-Marshal. Saturn is placed in the 8th along with Mars aspected by Rahu. Thus astama Sani proved to be very evil in his life. > > (Courtesy: Planets & Forecast, November, 1983) > > > With regrds > > sunil nair> om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sunil nair" astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > Hare ramakrishna> > > > dear lalit .> > > > i got this article from web and its published in Times of astrology> > > > its regrding ketu> > > > read and enjoy and apply on charts .> > Horoscopic Influences of Ketu by R M Banerjee> > 1.0 As a planet Ketu is diametrically opposed to Rahu. When> > this southern node of the Moon moves backward through different signs of> > the zodiac, it always maintains an angular distance of 180º from its> > northern counterpart Rahu. All traits therefore, present in Rahu, are> > absent in Ketu. Rahu is materialistic but Ketu stands for spiritualism.> > Its assumed lordship over Pisces—the terminal sign of the Zodiac or> > the end of the mundane journey for transcendation into the finer world> > of spiritualism is perhaps symbolic of Ketu's location in 12th house> > because it is here its anti-materialistic traits find the most elegant> > expression. In fact Ketu in the 12th house especially in Sagittarius or> > Pisces is an excellent sign for spiritual pursuits or long term research> > work comparable to Tapasya. Since it is anti-materialistic, Ketu in this> > house—the house of bed pleasure—denotes also a disturbed sex> > life. In this connection it may be mentioned that results expected of a> > planet which are beyond its jurisdiction and domain and which also do> > not fit into its Karakatwa can never happen. Ketu cannot give the> > Karakatwa effects of Venus and vice versa. Such irrational expectations> > are bound to generate frustration and disillusionment. For instance Ketu> > always retains its anti-materialistic characteristics independent of its> > placement in the chart. In the house of luck, instead of ensuring> > material prosperity it can enrich him with philosophical knowledge. Its> > placement in the rising sign makes a man of wandering type. Such a man,> > even if he is affectionate, his affections fall on persons beyond his> > family. He becomes a non-conformist. Similarly, Ketu in the second house> > or in the house of current income i.e. the 11th is not a helpful sign> > for accumulation or flow money. There is however an exception which> > follows from element of suddenness inbuilt into Ketu's character. Thus,> > if a strong Ketu with either the 2nd or the 11th lord occupies either> > the 2nd or the 11th house, it may create opportunities for unexpected> > income. This does not mean that Ketu is conducive to material properity.> > It merely means that Ketu can create unexpected event. So it is another> > characteristic of Ketu.> > 1.1. Thirdly, like Rahu, Ketu is also a first rate malefic but> > its modus operandi is entirely different from that of Rahu. If Rahu is a> > catalyst, Ketu is basically a depressant. Hindu astrologers assume Ketu> > to have no aspect of its own. From this assumption can we logically and> > reasonably infer that Ketu's effect is essentially point effect> > concentrated on the house of its placement in the basic chart? As a> > malefic Ketu has been observed to spoil the house it occupies and as a> > depressant it affects both the lordship and karakatwa of the planet with> > which it is conjoined in the basic chart. The general principle of> > conjunction states when two planets unite in a house, a fusion takes> > place which modify their individual characteristics to a considerable> > extent. As a result one is prone to give the result of another or some> > mixed effects emerge. Ketu on the other hand instead of modifying> > characteristics of the associated planet renders it, like a coiled> > serpent, functionally immobile. Ketu thus becomes more effective inn> > producing its own result during its own period good or bad than its> > associated planet.> > 1.2. This brings us to the fourth characteristic of Ketu. Ketu> > like a coiled serpent is secretive and surreptitious in movement. It has> > unique ability to delay a process and make a simple thing complicated. A> > good number of examples will be necessary to develop the idea. For> > instance, Ketu as a malefic produces good results in the 3rd house, 6th> > and 10th and 11th house as has been already stated. Ketu in the 6th> > allows the enemy to surreptitiously operate only to be crushed at the> > end. Pandit Nehru had the 6th lord Jupiter with Ketu in his 6th house.> > The royal enemy undermined his vitality and destroyed the most valuable> > part of his life. He however eventually emerged triumphant.> > Ketu in the 3rd house gives guts but here also it cannot shake off its> > sneaky habits. Hitler had Jupiter-Ketu in the 3rd house in Sagittarius.> > He had courage but unscrupulously adopted all dirty tricks to grab the> > lands of other independent nations before the formal announcement of the> > second world war.> > When the lagna lord gets entangled with Ketu, a man's thought process> > becomes involved. He cannot play straight. This attribute may help a> > philosopher but not a common man. Most of the delays in promotion,> > unnecessary complications in service life, reservation, victimisation> > due to conspiracy are creation of Ketu due to its unholy conjunction> > with 10th lord in the chart or its habitation in the 10th with any one> > of the trika lords, viz. 6th, 8th and 12th. Similarly Venus-Ketu may> > delay marriage or implicate the native in sex scandal. Diseases which> > stealthily enter into body and erupt all of a sudden are contributions> > of Ketu. In fact conjunction with the ascendant lord in the 6th. 8th or> > 12th houses is extremely bad for health. Similarly its conjunction with> > these lords in any house may give rise to diseases relating to that> > house. For instance, in the 5th house with the 6th lord it may give rise> > to serious type of pancreatitis or intestinal infection. In the 2nd> > house with the adverse lord it may give mouth cancer. People reportedly> > suffering from piles or rectum cancer may have their ascendant lord with> > Ketu in the house of death. To reiterate, Ketu in the realm of disease> > is secretive in action but sure to raise its ugly head in the last scene> > of the drama. Needless to say, Saturn and Mars aggravate the whole> > process.> > 1.3. Filthy though (i) a first rate malefic and (ii) an> > anti-materialistic (iii) with a cobweb psychic, Ketu gives excellent> > result in certain specific areas of life. As a planet it is endowed with> > a rare and penetrating insight to see into things. A man blessed with a> > powerful Ketu can earn eminence in homoeopathy, astrology,> > bio-chemistry, toxicology, or subjects dealing with bacteria, virus and> > molecular physics. Renowned homoeopaths and biochemists are often> > favoured with Jupiter-Ketu in their birth chart specially in the house> > of learning. A successful astrologer may have Venus-Ketu in the> > strategic house in his horoscope. Ketu linked with Mercury makes a man> > competent statistician who can go behind figures for facts of life. It> > will not be out of place to mention that Ketu is always tempered with> > benevolent Jupiter. Its mystic qualities find the most cogent expression> > through the medium of this natural benefic. Venus though a natural> > benefic is highly materialistic. Its conjunction or opposition with Ketu> > does not help the later.> > 1.4. Lastly, Dasa and Sub-dasa results of Ketu. Barring> > exceptional circumstances Ketu is too niggardly to create cheerful> > atmosphere during its major period. A prima facie case for this sweeping> > generalization rests on the fact that Ketu has no aspect. So forming> > exchange and opposition relationship with other planets in the chart> > becomes out of question. This together with its tendency to make the> > conjoined planet functionally inoperative reduces prospects for varied> > result under its major period to a considerable extent leaving its> > Karakatwa effects to dominate the scene. These Karakatwa effects, as> > already delineated are (i) a depressive backdrop (ii) behind the curtain> > secret activities (iii) delay in fructification of events (iv) creation> > of unnecessary complications (v) surreptitious entry of fatal diseases> > into the body etc. Exceptional circumstances when Ketu has been> > empirically observed to give good results during its dasa are (i) strong> > placement of its dispositor (ii) powerful aspects of Jupiter on the> > radical Ketu and also (iii) its conjunction with the Yogakaraka planet> > in a favourable house. Even then its karakatwa effects loom large. Good> > results occur against a gloomy backdrop after unnecessary delays and> > complications. It is of course true that a man's intuitive faculty may> > usually develop during Ketu. A homoeopath or an astrologer may flourish.> > A magician may earn reputation. A gambler may unexpectedly gain. A> > research scholar in biochemistry or molecular physics may make a> > breakthrough in the frontiers of knowledge or a diplomat can> > successfully forestall opposition move. All these spectacular events> > take place without noise as if these so happen in real life. In other> > words Ketu's Karakatwa effects always loom large and eclipse its other> > effects.> > I do not like to firm up my favoured conclusions with the help> > of horoscopes of my choice. Instead I request the request the readers to> > verify these results with the help of cross section data at their> > disposal. They will invariably come across events like (i) victimisation> > due to conspiracy (ii) delay and denial of due promotions (iii) false> > implications in scandals (iv) reversion and supersession in service life> > (v) sudden transfer to unhealthy place (vi) sudden succumbing to disease> > which stealthily creeps into the body, and, of course, (vii) deep long> > duration research and probe into the unthought-of area and lastly (viii)> > renunciation to take place during Ketu Mahadasa.> > 1.5 Ketu's sub-dasa effects either good or bad depends on its> > placement in the chart and the specific major period the native has been> > undergoing. Here, Ketu has to operate like other planets within the> > framework set by the major period lord. Even then, it tries to produce> > its own effect. For instance if Ketu is posited either in the 6th, 8th> > or 12th house in a chart and the owner of the chart happens to get the> > major period of the lord of any of the three trika houses, then Ketu in> > its sub-period in the major period of the relevant dasa lord is sure to> > produce the most disastrous result. For the trika lord to manifest its> > effect, Ketu serves as the most appropriate medium because it is posited> > in the house of a trika lord.> > Of course, converse will also be true in the case of Ketu's> > location via favourable house and the native comes under the dasa> > influence of the lord of that favourable house. Here Ketu will have no> > option but to give the good effect of dasa lord.> > > > (Condensed from The Times of Astrology, February, 1990.)> > > > > > > > > > all the best> > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai anamh.> > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>> > > > pt.sunilnair@ <pt.sunilnair@> > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sir,> > >> > > Thanx, now the scene is clear to me, I w'd like to know her> > > preferences in relationship, what w'd attract her, we have her> > > complete chart at the hand.> > >> > >> > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > >> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "appulali"> > > appulali@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Lalit,> > > >> > > > I meant the points you mentioned below> > > >> > > > "#2. Some says native will be ultimately of materialisitc> > > > nature and will never feel guilt for even misconduct if doing to> > > > achieve"> > > >> > > > Lord of 1 in 9 and Lord of 9 in 11th house( wealth). from moon,> > > Guru> > > > in 2nd and sani in 11. all towards wealth/great dhana yoga. venus> > > > (pleasure) in 7th to Moon. Deb Mars/Guru, Exalted saturn all gives> > > > wealth. - good and bad ways.> > > >> > > > Sridhar> > > >> > > >> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > >> > > > > I was waiting for ur's mail, I m keen to understand this native,> > > > How> > > > > mercury changes the whole scenario,pls. elaborate a little, what> > > is> > > > > point #2,considering - Mars is in 8th from Moon. Lord of 7th is> > > > > debilated, Rahu in 7 and , Saturn ascepting 7th house, does it> > > mean> > > > > Infidelity in relationship thus seperation, or like what u> > > earlier> > > > > said working with crooked colleagues.> > > > >> > > > > Do u mean the good yoga's that u mentioned earlier, now no longer> > > > > exist.> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > > Lalit.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "appulali"> > > > > <appulali@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > lalit,> > > > > >> > > > > > With mercury the whole scenario changes,I think I will support> > > > > point> > > > > > #2.> > > > > >> > > > > > Mars is in 8th from Moon. Lord of 7th is debilated, Rahu in 7> > > and> > > > > > Saturn ascepting 7th house. Her Spouse may be good person becoz> > > > of> > > > > > benefics , but need not have Good health and/or long life.> > > > > >> > > > > > Lord of 4 is exalted with debilitated Guru in it. Sick/handicap> > > > > > People in family but idealogical/communist/political. Very> > > > > difficult> > > > > > people to handle.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Sridhar> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I m so happy to receive a mail from u, u can understand, in> > > the> > > > > > given> > > > > > > horoscope, Mercurry is placed in 11'th house on Leo, She is> > > > > > running -> > > > > > > Mars/Jupiter/Saturn till 5'th Nov, Venus is placed in 9'th> > > > house.> > > > > > Ok,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The horoscope is like this -> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Lagna is Libra - Saturn + Ketu , 3rd H - Moon on> > > > Saggitarious,> > > > > > 4'th H> > > > > > > - Jupitor, 7'th - Rahu , 9'th H - Venus, 10'th H - Mars +> > > > > Saturn ,> > > > > > 11 H> > > > > > > - Mercury.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The Navamsha is like this> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Lagna - Geminy Sat + Jup, 5H Libra - Mercury + Sun + Venus,> > > > 6H -> > > > >> > > > > > Moon> > > > > > > + Rahu, 11 H Aries - Mercury, 12 H - Taurus.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Lalit.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > It's a horoscope of a girl, surrounded by not so good people> > > and> > > > > > > sometimes enough confused, though very hard working and self> > > > > > confident.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Saturn's aspect on Rahu will play what role in her life> > > > > > particularly in> > > > > > > love and relationship , What changes will come in her nature> > > > and> > > > > > liking> > > > > > > over the time. Can u tell me more about her and her parents> > > as> > > > > well> > > > > > as> > > > > > > her w'd be family, any thing singnificant.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Yea, she is hard working and she has a younger sister and one> > > > > > younger> > > > > > > brother. Even she herself is bit crooked.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "appulali"> > > > > > > > appulali@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Lalit, You missed the most planet Mercury, Lord of 9 and> > > > > where> > > > > > LL is> > > > > > > > > placed.> > > > > > > > > native's spouse will be good and as Mars has neechabhanga> > > > > from> > > > > > sun> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > Guru. Does the person have a younger sister?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Saturn+ketu is a Good combo, as Saturn is hard working,> > > > Ketu> > > > > is> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > planet of mistakes and hardwork eclipses mistakes and> > > moves> > > > > > towards> > > > > > > > > balance and pefection. So the person will be very> > > > efficient.> > > > > For> > > > > > > > > character 2nd is clean and Mars is with Sun have strong> > > > > > digbala, so> > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > may have Ego issues. The only problem with Sa+ke is that> > > > the> > > > > > person> > > > > > > > > may not able to perform death ceremony for one/both of> > > his> > > > > > parents> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > elders, that will effect the person later on.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Venus in 9th house and ascepted by Moon, is very good and> > > > he> > > > > is> > > > > > > loving> > > > > > > > > guy and look for true love. Lot of good yogas Lord of 5> > > is> > > > > > exalted.(> > > > > > > > > as also lord of 4)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Saturn in lagna is not always a great position as it> > > > ascepts> > > > > > 7th,> > > > > > > > > which is his place of debility ( hence will not favor> > > Rahu)> > > > > and> > > > > > he> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > also ascepting Mars/sun in 10th and moon in 3rd, who are> > > his> > > > > > > enemies.> > > > > > > > > Rahu is weak, as MArs is debiltated, so the person may> > > not> > > > > able> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > marry outside his community or go to other ladies. but> > > for> > > > > the> > > > > > same> > > > > > > > > reason, he may be associated with such crooked people at> > > > work.> > > > > > > > > Assuming that mercury is not associated with these> > > > positions,> > > > > I> > > > > > > think> > > > > > > > > the person is very fine character, as LL is in 9th house.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > Sridhar> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > > > > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I wish to understand the nature and instincts of a> > > person> > > > if> > > > > > > Saturn> > > > > > > > +> > > > > > > > > > Ketu both placed togather in Lagna which is Libra.> > > > Jupitor> > > > > > aspects> > > > > > > > > > lagna placed in 4'th house, but receives aspects from> > > Sun> > > > +> > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > placed> > > > > > > > > > togather in 10'th house. The moonsign is Saggitarious,> > > > > placed> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > 3'rd> > > > > > > > > > house and Venus the lord of lagna is placed in 9'th> > > house> > > > > > which is> > > > > > > > > > Gemini, 11'th is Mercury.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > My queries are :> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 1. Some says, the native will be of spiritual nature> > > > > because> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > Saturn> > > > > > > > > > and Ketu are togather in lagna.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2. Some says native will be ultimately of materialisitc> > > > > > nature and> > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > never feel guit for even misconduct if doing to achieve> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 3. Some says native will be a base and mean person,> > > will> > > > be> > > > > > > > deciteful> > > > > > > > > > and will never speak truth, whereas, some says, because> > > > Sat> > > > > > is an> > > > > > > > > > Yogkaraka, native will speak truth.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 4. Some says, Native will have multiple lovers and> > > > > > relationship> > > > > > > > > > and ,majorly from lower community. coz native is> > > > influenced> > > > > by> > > > > > > mean> > > > > > > > > > frinds, the effect of Rahu in 7'th and Ketu in lagna.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 5. some says, the 4'th point is not true rahu will only> > > > > bring> > > > > > some> > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > from other community for love/wedding.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 6. Some says, because of Saturn, the partner may be> > > older> > > > > > than the> > > > > > > > > > native.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Sir, pls. explain and give ur's judgement, I m trying to> > > > > > > understand> > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Ketu's impact.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.>