Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Dear Group, I have seen many astrologers opinies like if malific in 3'rd house, the native will like wine and will have several addictions, I m not sure how this paradigm is correct coz in my own chart Saturn is placed in 3'rd house and i have not done smoking, i mean not a single puff nor taken wine, rather if i say, others also leave smoking/wine. Only exception is Rup Sir, who took non veg as well bear sharing the same table with me. I m 100% proud vegetarian . So, is it right to see 2nd and 3rd house to have clues for such addictions? how u think .. regards, Lalit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Dear Lalit Ji I request you , Please do not expose to any ony publically. As you did in this mail. Eatiing and Drinking is absoultly personal matter. If we will discuss only abt "Malific in 3'rd House the native will take wine or not" rather then to tell this group abt any one personal habits. I hope you will agree with me regading this matter. Regards Sandeeplitsol <mishra.lalit wrote: Dear Group,I have seen many astrologers opinies like if malific in 3'rd house, the native will like wine and will have several addictions, I m not sure how this paradigm is correct coz in my own chart Saturn is placed in 3'rd house and i have not done smoking, i mean not a single puff nor taken wine, rather if i say, others also leave smoking/wine. Only exception is Rup Sir, who took non veg as well bear sharing the same table with me.I m 100% proud vegetarian .So, is it right to see 2nd and 3rd house to have clues for such addictions? how u think ..regards,Lalit. Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Dear Lalit, Actually 12th house is the house of " Moksha " . It denotes whether you will get moksha or not. Since it is the house of Moksha so it is obvious that it is the house of every type of " Vyasan " (Dirnking, Addicion to drugs, tobacco, gutkha and other worldy pleasures) too. It is your bedroom too so it is also the house of pleasures that are enjyoyed in bedroom. Thus 12th should be looked into for deciding drinking etc. sushil dikshit Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Dear Group, > > I have seen many astrologers opinies like if malific in 3'rd house, > the native will like wine and will have several addictions, I m not > sure how this paradigm is correct coz in my own chart Saturn is > placed in 3'rd house and i have not done smoking, i mean not a single > puff nor taken wine, rather if i say, others also leave smoking/wine. > Only exception is Rup Sir, who took non veg as well bear sharing the > same table with me. > > I m 100% proud vegetarian . > > So, is it right to see 2nd and 3rd house to have clues for such > addictions? how u think .. > > regards, > Lalit. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Sushil Ji, Thanx for giving the opinion, it looks logical that 12'th house may give the native thoughts to enjoy such things as u said, but will he take them for sure ? I m having some hitches to accept, i m not sure why. I think 12'th along with 2nd or 12'th along with 3rd may make a combo. But i have no horoscope to cross check. Well, i m giving u one very good case to have ur's opinion further - 12 oct 1974, 7:10 am at gorakhpur. pls. tell me about the addictions in this sample chart and if possible with current dasha and period. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sushil Dikshit " <sushil.dikshit wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > Actually 12th house is the house of " Moksha " . It denotes whether you > will get moksha or not. Since it is the house of Moksha so it is > obvious that it is the house of every type of " Vyasan " (Dirnking, > Addicion to drugs, tobacco, gutkha and other worldy pleasures) too. > It is your bedroom too so it is also the house of pleasures that are > enjyoyed in bedroom. > > Thus 12th should be looked into for deciding drinking etc. > > sushil dikshit > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I have seen many astrologers opinies like if malific in 3'rd house, > > the native will like wine and will have several addictions, I m not > > sure how this paradigm is correct coz in my own chart Saturn is > > placed in 3'rd house and i have not done smoking, i mean not a > single > > puff nor taken wine, rather if i say, others also leave > smoking/wine. > > Only exception is Rup Sir, who took non veg as well bear sharing > the > > same table with me. > > > > I m 100% proud vegetarian . > > > > So, is it right to see 2nd and 3rd house to have clues for such > > addictions? how u think .. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Dear Mr. Sandeep, Thanx for the advice and the concern but i m failed to understand ur's sense of ethics, do u think taking non veg/wine is lower than than taking veg food. ceertainly not. it's once choice if he takes veg food or non veg food. Do u know Vivekanada was fond of eating fish. My message is to become strong and straighforward, Rup sir even in his study period didn't hide from his father that he likes wine, pls., be more confident and have less cleverness in approach. If i m going to take wine tomorrow, will i hide ? never... the strnegth of character lies in truth, pls. think what u achieve by hiding or distorting a truth, if u expand ur's diameter of thinking u will come to know various things like the one u raiesed are no more a taboo. there is such a big world, there is great god and behind ur's this birth there has been thousands of thousands births, countless times in future u will die, so, just dont limit urself in absurd thoughts, cleverness and false standards. Truth is ultimate principle. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , sandeep khare <sandeep_khare2000@> wrote: > > Dear Lalit Ji > > I request you , Please do not expose to any ony publically. As you did in this mail. Eatiing and Drinking is absoultly personal matter. If we will discuss only abt " Malific in 3'rd House the native will take wine or not " rather then to tell this group abt any one personal habits. > > I hope you will agree with me regading this matter. > > Regards > Sandeep > > litsol <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > Dear Group, > > I have seen many astrologers opinies like if malific in 3'rd house, > the native will like wine and will have several addictions, I m not > sure how this paradigm is correct coz in my own chart Saturn is > placed in 3'rd house and i have not done smoking, i mean not a single > puff nor taken wine, rather if i say, others also leave smoking/wine. > Only exception is Rup Sir, who took non veg as well bear sharing the > same table with me. > > I m 100% proud vegetarian . > > So, is it right to see 2nd and 3rd house to have clues for such > addictions? how u think .. > > regards, > Lalit. > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Dear Lalit, I do not think merely malefic in 3rd indicates a person imbibing wine, meat etc. Influence of Rahu/Shani and some affliction to the 2nd will have to be there for that to happen. Much will also depend on the culture from which the person has come. The Desha and patra part of rishi's injunction on how to judge a chart, should never be forgotten. Chandrashekhar. Chandrashekhar. litsol wrote: Dear Group, I have seen many astrologers opinies like if malific in 3'rd house, the native will like wine and will have several addictions, I m not sure how this paradigm is correct coz in my own chart Saturn is placed in 3'rd house and i have not done smoking, i mean not a single puff nor taken wine, rather if i say, others also leave smoking/wine. Only exception is Rup Sir, who took non veg as well bear sharing the same table with me. I m 100% proud vegetarian . So, is it right to see 2nd and 3rd house to have clues for such addictions? how u think .. regards, Lalit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Dear Sir, Still in my chart - Satrun is in 3rd house and 2'nd house lord's (mars) placement is in 6'th along with sun should push me towards such addictions to some extent, but i m fully out of addictions, on the contrary, i have got a convincing personality helping others to leave smoking and wine etc., I inspired my younger brother and dozens of guy's in IT sector including few girls to leave addictions. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > I do not think merely malefic in 3rd indicates a person imbibing wine, > meat etc. Influence of Rahu/Shani and some affliction to the 2nd will > have to be there for that to happen. Much will also depend on the > culture from which the person has come. The Desha and patra part of > rishi's injunction on how to judge a chart, should never be forgotten. > > Chandrashekhar. > > Chandrashekhar. > litsol wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I have seen many astrologers opinies like if malific in 3'rd house, > > the native will like wine and will have several addictions, I m not > > sure how this paradigm is correct coz in my own chart Saturn is > > placed in 3'rd house and i have not done smoking, i mean not a single > > puff nor taken wine, rather if i say, others also leave smoking/wine. > > Only exception is Rup Sir, who took non veg as well bear sharing the > > same table with me. > > > > I m 100% proud vegetarian . > > > > So, is it right to see 2nd and 3rd house to have clues for such > > addictions? how u think .. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Hare ramakrishna, dear lalit. i think 2nd house and influences on lord and house is deciding factor ,Rahu is karaka for vices .As 2nd is house food we consume food to support our b0dy the lagna ,and malefic influnce on it will show what we consume ourself . yes 3nd house shows our courage ,so it also can be taken to take vices or bad kind of food one needs some careless or courageous attitude promised by a malefic planets in 3rd as 3nd shows our depth of mind.and 3rd supports the 2nd. lagna lord or 2nd lord going to 12th showing money spend on bad activites . if 10th lord is in 11th ,it may affect the earning (means massing of money ) as its 12th lord from 11th / From given chart all this conditions are applicable. If u take from moon also 2nd house has bad influence ,and exchnge of merc and venus is also bad as lagna and 12th lords from lagna and 2nd and 3rd lord from moon. Moon also 12th lord from moon and aspected by jup the 8th lord and sani the 6th lord . so he may consume alcohol or loose money is bad investments or vices. regrds sunil nair Om shreem mahalaxmai namah. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <mishra.lalit wrote:>> Sushil Ji,> > Thanx for giving the opinion, it looks logical that 12'th house may > give the native thoughts to enjoy such things as u said, but will he > take them for sure ? I m having some hitches to accept, i m not sure > why. I think 12'th along with 2nd or 12'th along with 3rd may make a > combo. But i have no horoscope to cross check.> > Well, i m giving u one very good case to have ur's opinion further -> 12 oct 1974, 7:10 am at gorakhpur.> > pls. tell me about the addictions in this sample chart and if > possible with current dasha and period.> > regards,> Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Sushil Dikshit" > sushil.dikshit@ wrote:> >> > Dear Lalit,> > > > Actually 12th house is the house of "Moksha". It denotes whether > you > > will get moksha or not. Since it is the house of Moksha so it is > > obvious that it is the house of every type of "Vyasan"(Dirnking, > > Addicion to drugs, tobacco, gutkha and other worldy pleasures) too. > > It is your bedroom too so it is also the house of pleasures that > are > > enjyoyed in bedroom.> > > > Thus 12th should be looked into for deciding drinking etc. > > > > sushil dikshit> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Group,> > > > > > I have seen many astrologers opinies like if malific in 3'rd > house, > > > the native will like wine and will have several addictions, I m > not > > > sure how this paradigm is correct coz in my own chart Saturn is > > > placed in 3'rd house and i have not done smoking, i mean not a > > single > > > puff nor taken wine, rather if i say, others also leave > > smoking/wine. > > > Only exception is Rup Sir, who took non veg as well bear sharing > > the > > > same table with me.> > > > > > I m 100% proud vegetarian .> > > > > > So, is it right to see 2nd and 3rd house to have clues for such > > > addictions? how u think ..> > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear Lalit, Does your 2nd house not get aspect of Jupiter? there is a difference between 2nd lord and 2nd house. Chandrashekhar. litsol wrote: Dear Sir, Still in my chart - Satrun is in 3rd house and 2'nd house lord's (mars) placement is in 6'th along with sun should push me towards such addictions to some extent, but i m fully out of addictions, on the contrary, i have got a convincing personality helping others to leave smoking and wine etc., I inspired my younger brother and dozens of guy's in IT sector including few girls to leave addictions. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > I do not think merely malefic in 3rd indicates a person imbibing wine, > meat etc. Influence of Rahu/Shani and some affliction to the 2nd will > have to be there for that to happen. Much will also depend on the > culture from which the person has come. The Desha and patra part of > rishi's injunction on how to judge a chart, should never be forgotten. > > Chandrashekhar. > > Chandrashekhar. > litsol wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I have seen many astrologers opinies like if malific in 3'rd house, > > the native will like wine and will have several addictions, I m not > > sure how this paradigm is correct coz in my own chart Saturn is > > placed in 3'rd house and i have not done smoking, i mean not a single > > puff nor taken wine, rather if i say, others also leave smoking/wine. > > Only exception is Rup Sir, who took non veg as well bear sharing the > > same table with me. > > > > I m 100% proud vegetarian . > > > > So, is it right to see 2nd and 3rd house to have clues for such > > addictions? how u think .. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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