Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Dear Chadra Shekar, In Sanjay site it mentions Navasma not Rashi chart. n the csse Sunil has posted i am getting differnt AK in J hora nd PL7. though in both I have same settings for Rahu and Ayanmsha. Can you suggest why bthis discrepancy. the question I had asked that most or many people chart i make I get Rahu AK which is there in my wife and daughters chart. is there a Karmic connection. with people I meet or know. One more clarification I need in Sajnays rules about counting AK from Navamsa lagna. He says cont from AK to navamsa lagna but in the beginning he says results of AK in which house AK. which is reverse. thanks Hare Rama Krsna kamal - Chandrashekhar Vedic Astrologyandhealing Friday, October 12, 2007 6:32 PM Re: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Vakri planets and Atamakarka Dear Kamal,There is a huge difference of opinion amongst the scholars as to whether the position of AK is to be seen in the Rasi chart of navamsha chart. If you see what you have said that Sanjay has written (If AK is in 8th house), then it appears the 8th is to be seen in the rasi chart, a position which appears to be diametrically opposed to the general View on the subject held by Sanjay. As to the remedies suggested, I can not comment as the ancient texts certainly do not suggest them, much less Jaimini.However the opinion on 10th house occupation of AK is interesting, though why clean heart, pillar to mother etc. is not very clear, as this does not appear to follow any astrological principles. Of course Sanjay is a learned astrologer and there must be some source that he is referring to which, sadly, he chooses not to reveal.Chandrashekhar.Vedic Learner wrote: Dear Sunil, i said what read by sanjay rath. Is is conjunction of AK with Lagna in Navamsa not Lagna Lord. In this chart on PL light I an saturn as AK and they both are close and upto degree minute and and decision about AK and AmK is made by a difference of 15 seconds. If one takes Saturn as AK the interpretaion according to Sanjay Rath should be # 8. If AK is in 8th house, the native has many troubles and weaknesses. He is defeated in war. Propitiate as per Saturn or Lord Satya Näräyana, fast on full Moon days and speak the truth OM TAT SAT.# Perhaps lalit jee and Chandra shekar jee a shed some light. There are two lattitude I an getting on Trichur I have checled both and tried Ayanamsa and still getting Sat as AK Then I checked with J hora you are right I got Rahu as AK and agian very narrowly. If you apply Rath rule interpreattion should be # 10. If AK is in 10th house, the native is blessed with a clean heart and good home. He shall be a pillar for his family and mother; the Moon in strength shall be an added blessing for this. # thanks kamal. - sunil nair Vedic Astrologyandhealing Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:11 AM [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Vakri planets and Atamakarka Hare ramakrishna, dear kamal ji . as far as the london girl ,is her lagna degree is 13 degree 47 and tell me any day lite saving is there . I done and see the charts tell me abt the family back ground at the time of their birth and after .when it has take off . I will giv u one chart which again rahu is AK under the *CK scheme and with mars the navamsa lagna lord mars and aspecting lagna lord and lagna in rasi chart . 9th may 1963 and 11.57 PM at trichur dst ,kerala state south india . Though born in royal family now struggling to hand to mouth ,he is my known person . If its what u quoted as AK with navamsa lagna lord ---- pls confirm regrds sunil nair om shreem maha laxmai namah. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Vedic Learner" <sightsolutions wrote:>> Dear sunil > > pl find the data> > > D Female Manchester England Feb 18,1983 12:30:00 LMT> L Female New Delhi Delhi India Oct 25,1961 02:36:00 LMT> > I know these two people. They have what can be called as fortunate people with out any extra ordinary achievements. In case of D she has 2 or 4 exalted planets while L has 3 debilitated planets.> > Just one request. I am there to learn. I am very beginner in the field. What is given in Sanjay Rath site is also given in Visti Larsen book ( as one would expect)> > If you need any sp information about these people pl ask me> > > kamal> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 Dear Kamal, It is perhaps the way they are calculating the degrees past in a rasi, though I can not say for certain. Check if both the programs are showing identical degrees of the 9 grahas. If that is so better calculate the planet that has traversed the most degrees and find out for your self which is the right AK. Charakarakas depend on the degrees traversed by a graha and Rahu, Guru and Saturn being the slow movers, when they have traversed the greatest degree in a rasi, they may remain AK for many people that are born in a fairly broad time frame. Check the time span of groups of people that you find with Rahu as AK. One can always claim that there is a karmic connection with those having identical AK, but personally I do not think that i right. All the people we interact with have some karmic connection with u and all will never have same charakaraka. So that proposition does not hold much water, at least to me. You will have to ask Sanjay about his rules. I am sure he will explain them to you with great pleasure. I can comment only about what I have seen in standard texts. take care, Chandrashekhar. Vedic Learner wrote: Dear Chadra Shekar, In Sanjay site it mentions Navasma not Rashi chart. n the csse Sunil has posted i am getting differnt AK in J hora nd PL7. though in both I have same settings for Rahu and Ayanmsha. Can you suggest why bthis discrepancy. the question I had asked that most or many people chart i make I get Rahu AK which is there in my wife and daughters chart. is there a Karmic connection. with people I meet or know. One more clarification I need in Sajnays rules about counting AK from Navamsa lagna. He says cont from AK to navamsa lagna but in the beginning he says results of AK in which house AK. which is reverse. thanks Hare Rama Krsna kamal ----- Original Message ----- Chandrashekhar To: Vedic Astrologyandhealing Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Vakri planets and Atamakarka Dear Kamal, There is a huge difference of opinion amongst the scholars as to whether the position of AK is to be seen in the Rasi chart of navamsha chart. If you see what you have said that Sanjay has written (If AK is in 8th house), then it appears the 8th is to be seen in the rasi chart, a position which appears to be diametrically opposed to the general View on the subject held by Sanjay. As to the remedies suggested, I can not comment as the ancient texts certainly do not suggest them, much less Jaimini. However the opinion on 10th house occupation of AK is interesting, though why clean heart, pillar to mother etc. is not very clear, as this does not appear to follow any astrological principles. Of course Sanjay is a learned astrologer and there must be some source that he is referring to which, sadly, he chooses not to reveal. Chandrashekhar. Vedic Learner wrote: Dear Sunil, i said what read by sanjay rath. Is is conjunction of AK with Lagna in Navamsa not Lagna Lord. In this chart on PL light I an saturn as AK and they both are close and upto degree minute and and decision about AK and AmK is made by a difference of 15 seconds. If one takes Saturn as AK the interpretaion according to Sanjay Rath should be # 8. If AK is in 8th house, the native has many troubles and weaknesses. He is defeated in war. Propitiate as per Saturn or Lord Satya Näräyana, fast on full Moon days and speak the truth OM TAT SAT.# Perhaps lalit jee and Chandra shekar jee a shed some light. There are two lattitude I an getting on Trichur I have checled both and tried Ayanamsa and still getting Sat as AK Then I checked with J hora you are right I got Rahu as AK and agian very narrowly. If you apply Rath rule interpreattion should be # 10. If AK is in 10th house, the native is blessed with a clean heart and good home. He shall be a pillar for his family and mother; the Moon in strength shall be an added blessing for this. # thanks kamal. ----- Original Message ----- sunil nair To: Vedic Astrologyandhealing Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:11 AM Subject: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Vakri planets and Atamakarka Hare ramakrishna, dear kamal ji . as far as the london girl ,is her lagna degree is 13 degree 47 and tell me any day lite saving is there . I done and see the charts tell me abt the family back ground at the time of their birth and after ..when it has take off . I will giv u one chart which again rahu is AK under the *CK scheme and with mars the navamsa lagna lord mars and aspecting lagna lord and lagna in rasi chart . 9th may 1963 and 11.57 PM at trichur dst ,kerala state south india . Though born in royal family now struggling to hand to mouth ,he is my known person . If its what u quoted as AK with navamsa lagna lord ---- pls confirm regrds sunil nair om shreem maha laxmai namah. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Vedic Learner" <sightsolutions wrote: > > Dear sunil > > pl find the data > > > D Female Manchester England Feb 18,1983 12:30:00 LMT > L Female New Delhi Delhi India Oct 25,1961 02:36:00 LMT > > I know these two people. They have what can be called as fortunate people with out any extra ordinary achievements. In case of D she has 2 or 4 exalted planets while L has 3 debilitated planets. > > Just one request. I am there to learn. I am very beginner in the field. What is given in Sanjay Rath site is also given in Visti Larsen book ( as one would expect) > > If you need any sp information about these people pl ask me > > > kamal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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