Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Sir, I did a thorough study of Bhavat Bhavam from various angles and at various level, after a point, we land in nowhere zone. Bhavat Bhavam can't be a tool to predict anything. It's like mnemonics that we used in childhod to memorise various, that's a tool for astrologer not for astrology. For the rest of things i have same opinion as u do have, however, i dont think one life is not enough to learn astrology, if we can learn any other science, any other vedic vidya in this life, we can learn Jyotish also. I have great respect for all our sages, pls. dont take me wrong, and my opinions are in their line of working only. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " aavesh_s " <aavesh_s wrote: > > > Dear Lalit, > > I am surprised and pained at the statements that you are making in the > past few days regarding some timetested principles of Jyotish Vidya > > Have you tried to understand the principle of 'Bhavat Bhavam' sincerely > ?? > > Let me be more specific:How many horoscopes have you tested this > principle on ?? > > I have a healthy respect for your abilities and feel that you have the > potential to be a really good Jyotishi,but your statements over the past > few days are really immaturish to say the least !! > > PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT TO LEARN JYOTISH VIDYA,THE FIRST QUALIFICATION IS > TO HAVE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THE VIDYA AND THE RISHIS OF YORE > > Another point:Jyotish is not mathematics where 2+2=4. > > It is an occult science where much depends on the Sadhana of the person > > A really good Jyotishi who has been practicing Jyotish through > generations can predict at least 50 things by just looking at a chart > wheras a beginner even with all his computers and Divisional charts will > fail to get even 5 predictions correct !! > > Last but not the least,Jyotish is akin to 'Anant Paar Saagar' > (Varahamihira's words). > > We have not even touched the tip of the iceberg my friend [] > > Regards, > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Kamal, > > > > It's only an imagination, u can check any 2 horoscopes of any 2 > married > > couples, spouses horoscope is no way mirror image each other's > > horoscope pivoting on 7'th house. > > > > Same is true for parent - kid relation also, however, one or two case > > in 1,00,000 families or so can be there. > > > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic Learner " > > sightsolutions@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > It is said one can deduce the horoscope of relatives from Native > e.g. > > mother from 4th brother from 3rd and spouse from 7th. I believe it > > means taking that house as lagna. How do we time there fructification. > > If we are using dasa how it is calculated or we transit to see timing > > of events > > > > > > HARE RAMA KRSNA > > > > > > SINCERELY > > > > > > KAMAL > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Dear Lalit, Nice to get your response on my mail. My comments (in bold for clarity) I did a thorough study of Bhavat Bhavam from various angles and at various level, after a point, we land in nowhere zone.Bhavat Bhavam can't be a tool to predict anything. BHAVAT BHAVAM IS A VERY IMPORTANT CONCEPT IN JYOTISH. IF IT IS PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD ONE CAN PREDICT ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE PARENTS,SPOUSE,CHILDREN etc FROM THE PERSON'S CHART ITSELF HOWEVER THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO BE NOTED HERE: (i)THE TIME OF BIRTH HAS TO BE VERY ACCURATE FOR USING THIS PRINCIPLE (ii)THIS PRINCIPLE SHOULD BE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CHARAKARAKAS FOR THE PARTICULAR CHART (iii)ALSO HAVE A LOOK AT THE DIVISIONAL CHART FOR THE RELATIVE IN QUESTION (DWADASHAMSA FOR CHILDREN,NAVAMSHA FOR SPOUSE) THIS WILL GIVE VERY VITAL CLUES EVEN IF YOU USE THE BHAVAT BHAVAM PRINCIPLE ON IT'S OWN IT CAN GIVE VERY ACCURATE INDICATIONS I WILL ILLUSTRATE THIS WITH AN EXAMPLE SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT FULLY.THEN YOU WILL REALISE THE BEAUTY OF THIS PRINCIPLE AND JYOTISH (GIVE ME TIME TILL NEXT WEEK AS I AM NOT WELL AT PRESENT) For the rest of things i have same opinion as u do have, however, i dont think one life is not enough to learn astrology, if we can learn any other science, any other vedic vidya in this life, we can learn Jyotish also. I WILL REPLY TO THIS POINT IN A COUPLE OF DAYSI have great respect for all our sages, pls. dont take me wrong, and my opinions are in their line of working only. GOOD TO KNOW THIS.I WILL WRITE ON THIS POINT TOO IN DETAILLast but not the least,do not get upset when Jyotish seems to be confusing. You have a very original mind and can be really good at Jyotish. Keep an open mind and do not think only in black and white.Jyotish is a true barometer of life which has shades of grey too !! Regards, aavesh Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "aavesh_s" wrote:>> > Dear Lalit,> > I am surprised and pained at the statements that you are making in the> past few days regarding some timetested principles of Jyotish Vidya> > Have you tried to understand the principle of 'Bhavat Bhavam' sincerely> ??> > Let me be more specific:How many horoscopes have you tested this> principle on ??> > I have a healthy respect for your abilities and feel that you have the> potential to be a really good Jyotishi,but your statements over the past> few days are really immaturish to say the least !!> > PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT TO LEARN JYOTISH VIDYA,THE FIRST QUALIFICATION IS> TO HAVE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THE VIDYA AND THE RISHIS OF YORE> > Another point:Jyotish is not mathematics where 2+2=4.> > It is an occult science where much depends on the Sadhana of the person> > A really good Jyotishi who has been practicing Jyotish through> generations can predict at least 50 things by just looking at a chart> wheras a beginner even with all his computers and Divisional charts will> fail to get even 5 predictions correct !!> > Last but not the least,Jyotish is akin to 'Anant Paar Saagar'> (Varahamihira's words).> > We have not even touched the tip of the iceberg my friend []> > Regards,> > aavesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" > wrote:> >> > Dear Kamal,> >> > It's only an imagination, u can check any 2 horoscopes of any 2> married> > couples, spouses horoscope is no way mirror image each other's> > horoscope pivoting on 7'th house.> >> > Same is true for parent - kid relation also, however, one or two case> > in 1,00,000 families or so can be there.> >> >> > regards,> > Lalit.> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Vedic Learner"> > sightsolutions@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > >> > > It is said one can deduce the horoscope of relatives from Native> e.g.> > mother from 4th brother from 3rd and spouse from 7th. I believe it> > means taking that house as lagna. How do we time there fructification.> > If we are using dasa how it is calculated or we transit to see timing> > of events> > >> > > HARE RAMA KRSNA> > >> > > SINCERELY> > >> > > KAMAL> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Dear Lalit, Did I mention anywhere in the post that your not learned and I am a learned person? Are you ready to have healthy discussion here ? I have never wirtten anything against you anywhere in any group and you have written against me in your group about house of father. Respected Chandrashekhar Ji has clarified it but you insist on it. You may discuss it on phose ot Sunil Nair ji or Rup Sir. Your doubts will cleared for ever. Just post your specific question and if you want that I should not post anything you may ban me. You know me what I told you on phone but there are much more that. regards sushil dikshit Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t <aavesh_s wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > Nice to get your response on my mail. > > My comments (in bold for clarity) > > I did a thorough study of Bhavat Bhavam from various angles and at > various level, after a point, we land in nowhere zone. > > Bhavat Bhavam can't be a tool to predict anything. > > BHAVAT BHAVAM IS A VERY IMPORTANT CONCEPT IN JYOTISH. > IF IT IS PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD ONE CAN PREDICT ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE PARENTS,SPOUSE,CHILDREN etc FROM THE PERSON'S CHART ITSELF > > HOWEVER THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO BE NOTED HERE: > > (i)THE TIME OF BIRTH HAS TO BE VERY ACCURATE FOR USING THIS PRINCIPLE > > (ii)THIS PRINCIPLE SHOULD BE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CHARAKARAKAS FOR THE PARTICULAR CHART > > (iii)ALSO HAVE A LOOK AT THE DIVISIONAL CHART FOR THE RELATIVE IN QUESTION (DWADASHAMSA FOR CHILDREN,NAVAMSHA FOR SPOUSE) > > THIS WILL GIVE VERY VITAL CLUES > > EVEN IF YOU USE THE BHAVAT BHAVAM PRINCIPLE ON IT'S OWN IT CAN GIVE VERY ACCURATE INDICATIONS > > I WILL ILLUSTRATE THIS WITH AN EXAMPLE SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT FULLY.THEN YOU WILL REALISE THE BEAUTY OF THIS PRINCIPLE AND JYOTISH (GIVE ME TIME TILL NEXT WEEK AS I AM NOT WELL AT PRESENT) > > For the rest of things i have same opinion as u do have, however, i > dont think one life is not enough to learn astrology, if we can learn > any other science, any other vedic vidya in this life, we can learn > Jyotish also. > > I WILL REPLY TO THIS POINT IN A COUPLE OF DAYS > > I have great respect for all our sages, pls. dont take me wrong, and > my opinions are in their line of working only. > > GOOD TO KNOW THIS.I WILL WRITE ON THIS POINT TOO IN DETAIL > > Last but not the least,do not get upset when Jyotish seems to be confusing. > > You have a very original mind and can be really good at Jyotish. > > Keep an open mind and do not think only in black and white.Jyotish is a true barometer of life which has shades of grey too !! > > Regards, > > aavesh > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " aavesh_s " > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > I am surprised and pained at the statements that you are making in > the > > past few days regarding some timetested principles of Jyotish Vidya > > > > Have you tried to understand the principle of 'Bhavat Bhavam' > sincerely > > ?? > > > > Let me be more specific:How many horoscopes have you tested this > > principle on ?? > > > > I have a healthy respect for your abilities and feel that you have > the > > potential to be a really good Jyotishi,but your statements over the > past > > few days are really immaturish to say the least !! > > > > PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT TO LEARN JYOTISH VIDYA,THE FIRST > QUALIFICATION IS > > TO HAVE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THE VIDYA AND THE RISHIS OF YORE > > > > Another point:Jyotish is not mathematics where 2+2=4. > > > > It is an occult science where much depends on the Sadhana of the > person > > > > A really good Jyotishi who has been practicing Jyotish through > > generations can predict at least 50 things by just looking at a > chart > > wheras a beginner even with all his computers and Divisional charts > will > > fail to get even 5 predictions correct !! > > > > Last but not the least,Jyotish is akin to 'Anant Paar Saagar' > > (Varahamihira's words). > > > > We have not even touched the tip of the iceberg my friend [] > > > > Regards, > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kamal, > > > > > > It's only an imagination, u can check any 2 horoscopes of any 2 > > married > > > couples, spouses horoscope is no way mirror image each other's > > > horoscope pivoting on 7'th house. > > > > > > Same is true for parent - kid relation also, however, one or two > case > > > in 1,00,000 families or so can be there. > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic Learner " > > > sightsolutions@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > It is said one can deduce the horoscope of relatives from Native > > e.g. > > > mother from 4th brother from 3rd and spouse from 7th. I believe it > > > means taking that house as lagna. How do we time there > fructification. > > > If we are using dasa how it is calculated or we transit to see > timing > > > of events > > > > > > > > HARE RAMA KRSNA > > > > > > > > SINCERELY > > > > > > > > KAMAL > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 dear Lalit, I am sorry. I mistaken Avesh's mail as your mail. Sorry for that. regards sushil dikshit Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sushil Dikshit " <sushil.dikshit wrote: > > > Dear Lalit, > > Did I mention anywhere in the post that your not learned and I am a > learned person? > > Are you ready to have healthy discussion here ? > > I have never wirtten anything against you anywhere in any group and > you have written against me in your group about house of father. > Respected Chandrashekhar Ji has clarified it but you insist on it. > You may discuss it on phose ot Sunil Nair ji or Rup Sir. Your doubts > will cleared for ever. > > Just post your specific question and if you want that I should not > post anything you may ban me. You know me what I told you on phone > but there are much more that. > > regards > sushil dikshit > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t > <aavesh_s@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > Nice to get your response on my mail. > > > > My comments (in bold for clarity) > > > > I did a thorough study of Bhavat Bhavam from various angles and at > > various level, after a point, we land in nowhere zone. > > > > Bhavat Bhavam can't be a tool to predict anything. > > > > BHAVAT BHAVAM IS A VERY IMPORTANT CONCEPT IN JYOTISH. > > IF IT IS PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD ONE CAN PREDICT ABOUT THE NATURE OF > THE PARENTS,SPOUSE,CHILDREN etc FROM THE PERSON'S CHART ITSELF > > > > HOWEVER THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO BE NOTED HERE: > > > > (i)THE TIME OF BIRTH HAS TO BE VERY ACCURATE FOR USING THIS > PRINCIPLE > > > > (ii)THIS PRINCIPLE SHOULD BE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE > CHARAKARAKAS FOR THE PARTICULAR CHART > > > > (iii)ALSO HAVE A LOOK AT THE DIVISIONAL CHART FOR THE RELATIVE IN > QUESTION (DWADASHAMSA FOR CHILDREN,NAVAMSHA FOR SPOUSE) > > > > THIS WILL GIVE VERY VITAL CLUES > > > > EVEN IF YOU USE THE BHAVAT BHAVAM PRINCIPLE ON IT'S OWN IT CAN > GIVE VERY ACCURATE INDICATIONS > > > > I WILL ILLUSTRATE THIS WITH AN EXAMPLE SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND > IT FULLY.THEN YOU WILL REALISE THE BEAUTY OF THIS PRINCIPLE AND > JYOTISH (GIVE ME TIME TILL NEXT WEEK AS I AM NOT WELL AT PRESENT) > > > > For the rest of things i have same opinion as u do have, however, > i > > dont think one life is not enough to learn astrology, if we can > learn > > any other science, any other vedic vidya in this life, we can learn > > Jyotish also. > > > > I WILL REPLY TO THIS POINT IN A COUPLE OF DAYS > > > > I have great respect for all our sages, pls. dont take me wrong, > and > > my opinions are in their line of working only. > > > > GOOD TO KNOW THIS.I WILL WRITE ON THIS POINT TOO IN DETAIL > > > > Last but not the least,do not get upset when Jyotish seems to be > confusing. > > > > You have a very original mind and can be really good at Jyotish. > > > > Keep an open mind and do not think only in black and > white.Jyotish is a true barometer of life which has shades of grey > too !! > > > > Regards, > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " aavesh_s " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > I am surprised and pained at the statements that you are making > in > > the > > > past few days regarding some timetested principles of Jyotish > Vidya > > > > > > Have you tried to understand the principle of 'Bhavat Bhavam' > > sincerely > > > ?? > > > > > > Let me be more specific:How many horoscopes have you tested this > > > principle on ?? > > > > > > I have a healthy respect for your abilities and feel that you > have > > the > > > potential to be a really good Jyotishi,but your statements over > the > > past > > > few days are really immaturish to say the least !! > > > > > > PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT TO LEARN JYOTISH VIDYA,THE FIRST > > QUALIFICATION IS > > > TO HAVE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THE VIDYA AND THE RISHIS OF YORE > > > > > > Another point:Jyotish is not mathematics where 2+2=4. > > > > > > It is an occult science where much depends on the Sadhana of the > > person > > > > > > A really good Jyotishi who has been practicing Jyotish through > > > generations can predict at least 50 things by just looking at a > > chart > > > wheras a beginner even with all his computers and Divisional > charts > > will > > > fail to get even 5 predictions correct !! > > > > > > Last but not the least,Jyotish is akin to 'Anant Paar Saagar' > > > (Varahamihira's words). > > > > > > We have not even touched the tip of the iceberg my friend [] > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kamal, > > > > > > > > It's only an imagination, u can check any 2 horoscopes of any 2 > > > married > > > > couples, spouses horoscope is no way mirror image each other's > > > > horoscope pivoting on 7'th house. > > > > > > > > Same is true for parent - kid relation also, however, one or > two > > case > > > > in 1,00,000 families or so can be there. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic Learner " > > > > sightsolutions@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > It is said one can deduce the horoscope of relatives from > Native > > > e.g. > > > > mother from 4th brother from 3rd and spouse from 7th. I believe > it > > > > means taking that house as lagna. How do we time there > > fructification. > > > > If we are using dasa how it is calculated or we transit to see > > timing > > > > of events > > > > > > > > > > HARE RAMA KRSNA > > > > > > > > > > SINCERELY > > > > > > > > > > KAMAL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Dear Sushilji, 7H (Marriage) Lord in 12 H (Loss) can indicate loss of marriage? How would you see 12H Lord in 7H? Regards Kiran Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sushil Dikshit " <sushil.dikshit wrote: > > > Dear Lalit, > > Where is the doubt in " Bhavat Bhavam " actually ? I want a specific > question about this rule. > > I have gone through all the posts related but I have neither found > any specific question nor any explanation against it. > > So please post a question related to it so that we can explain > something more to you about this rule. > > regards > sushil dikshit > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > Sir, > > > > I did a thorough study of Bhavat Bhavam from various angles and at > > various level, after a point, we land in nowhere zone. > > > > Bhavat Bhavam can't be a tool to predict anything. > > > > It's like mnemonics that we used in childhod to memorise various, > > that's a tool for astrologer not for astrology. > > > > For the rest of things i have same opinion as u do have, however, i > > dont think one life is not enough to learn astrology, if we can > learn > > any other science, any other vedic vidya in this life, we can learn > > Jyotish also. > > > > I have great respect for all our sages, pls. dont take me wrong, > and > > my opinions are in their line of working only. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " aavesh_s " > > <aavesh_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > I am surprised and pained at the statements that you are making > in > > the > > > past few days regarding some timetested principles of Jyotish > Vidya > > > > > > Have you tried to understand the principle of 'Bhavat Bhavam' > > sincerely > > > ?? > > > > > > Let me be more specific:How many horoscopes have you tested this > > > principle on ?? > > > > > > I have a healthy respect for your abilities and feel that you > have > > the > > > potential to be a really good Jyotishi,but your statements over > the > > past > > > few days are really immaturish to say the least !! > > > > > > PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT TO LEARN JYOTISH VIDYA,THE FIRST > > QUALIFICATION IS > > > TO HAVE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THE VIDYA AND THE RISHIS OF YORE > > > > > > Another point:Jyotish is not mathematics where 2+2=4. > > > > > > It is an occult science where much depends on the Sadhana of the > > person > > > > > > A really good Jyotishi who has been practicing Jyotish through > > > generations can predict at least 50 things by just looking at a > > chart > > > wheras a beginner even with all his computers and Divisional > charts > > will > > > fail to get even 5 predictions correct !! > > > > > > Last but not the least,Jyotish is akin to 'Anant Paar Saagar' > > > (Varahamihira's words). > > > > > > We have not even touched the tip of the iceberg my friend [] > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <litsol@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kamal, > > > > > > > > It's only an imagination, u can check any 2 horoscopes of any 2 > > > married > > > > couples, spouses horoscope is no way mirror image each other's > > > > horoscope pivoting on 7'th house. > > > > > > > > Same is true for parent - kid relation also, however, one or > two > > case > > > > in 1,00,000 families or so can be there. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic Learner " > > > > sightsolutions@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > It is said one can deduce the horoscope of relatives from > Native > > > e.g. > > > > mother from 4th brother from 3rd and spouse from 7th. I believe > it > > > > means taking that house as lagna. How do we time there > > fructification. > > > > If we are using dasa how it is calculated or we transit to see > > timing > > > > of events > > > > > > > > > > HARE RAMA KRSNA > > > > > > > > > > SINCERELY > > > > > > > > > > KAMAL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Dear Kiran Namaste Although it is for Sushil,I thought of writting as question really is very good. We can see it many ways. House lord will indicate the things associated with that house. This lord will give good and bad results based on the bhava it is placed in. 12th bhava indicates Vyaya i.e expenditure and not essentially loss. It as well indicates distant land (difficult to obtain) hence delay,place of healing/rejuvenation. 7th lord indicates marriage,spouse,partners etc. So now combining these gives following combinations. 7th lord in 12th house 1) Marriage(7L) in distant land(12H) 2) Marriage getting delayed 3) Partnership in distant land 4) Spouse may require medical help 5) Business related to hospitals Now take 12th lord in 7th house 1) Expenditure because of Marriage 2) Rejuvenation will be through spouse 3) Distrubed married life. This is how I look at it. Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama wrote: > > Dear Sushilji, > > 7H (Marriage) Lord in 12 H (Loss) can indicate loss of marriage? > > How would you see 12H Lord in 7H? > > Regards > Kiran > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sushil Dikshit " > <sushil.dikshit@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > Where is the doubt in " Bhavat Bhavam " actually ? I want a specific > > question about this rule. > > > > I have gone through all the posts related but I have neither found > > any specific question nor any explanation against it. > > > > So please post a question related to it so that we can explain > > something more to you about this rule. > > > > regards > > sushil dikshit > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > I did a thorough study of Bhavat Bhavam from various angles and at > > > various level, after a point, we land in nowhere zone. > > > > > > Bhavat Bhavam can't be a tool to predict anything. > > > > > > It's like mnemonics that we used in childhod to memorise various, > > > that's a tool for astrologer not for astrology. > > > > > > For the rest of things i have same opinion as u do have, however, i > > > dont think one life is not enough to learn astrology, if we can > > learn > > > any other science, any other vedic vidya in this life, we can learn > > > Jyotish also. > > > > > > I have great respect for all our sages, pls. dont take me wrong, > > and > > > my opinions are in their line of working only. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " aavesh_s " > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > I am surprised and pained at the statements that you are making > > in > > > the > > > > past few days regarding some timetested principles of Jyotish > > Vidya > > > > > > > > Have you tried to understand the principle of 'Bhavat Bhavam' > > > sincerely > > > > ?? > > > > > > > > Let me be more specific:How many horoscopes have you tested this > > > > principle on ?? > > > > > > > > I have a healthy respect for your abilities and feel that you > > have > > > the > > > > potential to be a really good Jyotishi,but your statements over > > the > > > past > > > > few days are really immaturish to say the least !! > > > > > > > > PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT TO LEARN JYOTISH VIDYA,THE FIRST > > > QUALIFICATION IS > > > > TO HAVE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THE VIDYA AND THE RISHIS OF YORE > > > > > > > > Another point:Jyotish is not mathematics where 2+2=4. > > > > > > > > It is an occult science where much depends on the Sadhana of the > > > person > > > > > > > > A really good Jyotishi who has been practicing Jyotish through > > > > generations can predict at least 50 things by just looking at a > > > chart > > > > wheras a beginner even with all his computers and Divisional > > charts > > > will > > > > fail to get even 5 predictions correct !! > > > > > > > > Last but not the least,Jyotish is akin to 'Anant Paar Saagar' > > > > (Varahamihira's words). > > > > > > > > We have not even touched the tip of the iceberg my friend [] > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <litsol@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kamal, > > > > > > > > > > It's only an imagination, u can check any 2 horoscopes of any 2 > > > > married > > > > > couples, spouses horoscope is no way mirror image each other's > > > > > horoscope pivoting on 7'th house. > > > > > > > > > > Same is true for parent - kid relation also, however, one or > > two > > > case > > > > > in 1,00,000 families or so can be there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic Learner " > > > > > sightsolutions@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said one can deduce the horoscope of relatives from > > Native > > > > e.g. > > > > > mother from 4th brother from 3rd and spouse from 7th. I believe > > it > > > > > means taking that house as lagna. How do we time there > > > fructification. > > > > > If we are using dasa how it is calculated or we transit to see > > > timing > > > > > of events > > > > > > > > > > > > HARE RAMA KRSNA > > > > > > > > > > > > SINCERELY > > > > > > > > > > > > KAMAL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 One major thing that - 1. I have noticed spouse faces health problem. 2. Gradually relationship developes bitterness. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Prabodh Vekhande " <amolmandar wrote: > > Dear Kiran Namaste > > Although it is for Sushil,I thought of writting as question really is > very good. We can see it many ways. House lord will indicate the > things associated with that house. This lord will give good and bad > results based on the bhava it is placed in. 12th bhava indicates > Vyaya i.e expenditure and not essentially loss. It as well indicates > distant land (difficult to obtain) hence delay,place of > healing/rejuvenation. 7th lord indicates marriage,spouse,partners > etc. So now combining these gives following combinations. > > 7th lord in 12th house > > 1) Marriage(7L) in distant land(12H) > 2) Marriage getting delayed > 3) Partnership in distant land > 4) Spouse may require medical help > 5) Business related to hospitals > > Now take 12th lord in 7th house > > 1) Expenditure because of Marriage > 2) Rejuvenation will be through spouse > 3) Distrubed married life. > > This is how I look at it. > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > Prabodh Vekhande > Jai Jai Shankar > Har Har Shankar > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sushilji, > > > > 7H (Marriage) Lord in 12 H (Loss) can indicate loss of marriage? > > > > How would you see 12H Lord in 7H? > > > > Regards > > Kiran > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sushil Dikshit " > > <sushil.dikshit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > Where is the doubt in " Bhavat Bhavam " actually ? I want a > specific > > > question about this rule. > > > > > > I have gone through all the posts related but I have neither > found > > > any specific question nor any explanation against it. > > > > > > So please post a question related to it so that we can explain > > > something more to you about this rule. > > > > > > regards > > > sushil dikshit > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > I did a thorough study of Bhavat Bhavam from various angles and > at > > > > various level, after a point, we land in nowhere zone. > > > > > > > > Bhavat Bhavam can't be a tool to predict anything. > > > > > > > > It's like mnemonics that we used in childhod to memorise > various, > > > > that's a tool for astrologer not for astrology. > > > > > > > > For the rest of things i have same opinion as u do have, > however, i > > > > dont think one life is not enough to learn astrology, if we can > > > learn > > > > any other science, any other vedic vidya in this life, we can > learn > > > > Jyotish also. > > > > > > > > I have great respect for all our sages, pls. dont take me > wrong, > > > and > > > > my opinions are in their line of working only. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " aavesh_s " > > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > I am surprised and pained at the statements that you are > making > > > in > > > > the > > > > > past few days regarding some timetested principles of Jyotish > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > Have you tried to understand the principle of 'Bhavat Bhavam' > > > > sincerely > > > > > ?? > > > > > > > > > > Let me be more specific:How many horoscopes have you tested > this > > > > > principle on ?? > > > > > > > > > > I have a healthy respect for your abilities and feel that you > > > have > > > > the > > > > > potential to be a really good Jyotishi,but your statements > over > > > the > > > > past > > > > > few days are really immaturish to say the least !! > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT TO LEARN JYOTISH VIDYA,THE FIRST > > > > QUALIFICATION IS > > > > > TO HAVE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THE VIDYA AND THE RISHIS OF YORE > > > > > > > > > > Another point:Jyotish is not mathematics where 2+2=4. > > > > > > > > > > It is an occult science where much depends on the Sadhana of > the > > > > person > > > > > > > > > > A really good Jyotishi who has been practicing Jyotish through > > > > > generations can predict at least 50 things by just looking at > a > > > > chart > > > > > wheras a beginner even with all his computers and Divisional > > > charts > > > > will > > > > > fail to get even 5 predictions correct !! > > > > > > > > > > Last but not the least,Jyotish is akin to 'Anant Paar Saagar' > > > > > (Varahamihira's words). > > > > > > > > > > We have not even touched the tip of the iceberg my friend > [] > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > <litsol@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kamal, > > > > > > > > > > > > It's only an imagination, u can check any 2 horoscopes of > any 2 > > > > > married > > > > > > couples, spouses horoscope is no way mirror image each > other's > > > > > > horoscope pivoting on 7'th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Same is true for parent - kid relation also, however, one > or > > > two > > > > case > > > > > > in 1,00,000 families or so can be there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic > Learner " > > > > > > sightsolutions@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said one can deduce the horoscope of relatives from > > > Native > > > > > e.g. > > > > > > mother from 4th brother from 3rd and spouse from 7th. I > believe > > > it > > > > > > means taking that house as lagna. How do we time there > > > > fructification. > > > > > > If we are using dasa how it is calculated or we transit to > see > > > > timing > > > > > > of events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HARE RAMA KRSNA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SINCERELY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KAMAL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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