astrology a science or myth

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Dear Nair,

Thanks for your mail.

 

>>>>>>>i going to opt to not reply and i was against u misleading

students

,since u hav no interest in knowing astro properly <<<<<<

 

It is always your right not to answer. But it is my duty to answer

so long you are writing to me and raising some points. How you can

say that I have not studied astrology. You have not gone through my

first mail wherein I clearly mentioned that I have studied

astrology for more then 35 years.

 

>>>>>>>>>or like ppl selling

mother country and making money u r asking me to prove the scinces

<<<<<<<

 

I am neither selling mother country nor I am making money by

befooling general public in the name of Vedic astrology where as

Ved has nothing to do with the predictive astrology. So you (not

particularly you I mean astrologer) are selling the countries

image in the name of Ved.

 

 

>>>>>>1000s of books lying in different part of india ,which is not

human

possible .<<<<<<<

So you are admitting that without going through the books

astrlogeres are predicting, what a funny excuse.

 

>>>>>>>u say abt greeks can u tell me one greek astrological

books<<<<<<<

Even Surya sidhant was written by Greeks and it was even accepted

by Varahmihir who included this scripture in his panchsidhant. He

wrote that though yavan are mlecha (below caste) even they are

worshiped like sages due to their knowledge of astrology. Even sign

(rasshi) was also the creation of greeks.

 

>>>>>>>>parashara is not one rishi its a title ,<<<<<<<<<

If you are so poor in this knowledge then what I can do.

 

>>>>>>>again u said aryab bhatta may be 6th century and a

astronomer ,but do u thing this sastra originated by him or 10th

century bhaskara ,this a

continous stream ,like mohenjadareo harrappan cities may be destroyes

rit now (means b4 5000yers) and do u think so the city devlped in that

century or if u know history u know that it needs a back up of another

5000 years to reach to that extent .<<<<<<<<

My answer was against your earlier statement that

>>>>>atleast aryabhateeyam it says so many things abt earth where it

says its

gola is nature and even discusess the mutual gravitational force

called

parivahan sakti like this ,even bhaskaracharya says abt the eclipses

and

its not some mythical storey that rahu is trying to gobble sun or

moon .<<<<<<<<

So are you saying that Aryabhatta or Bhaskarchary are famous due

to repeating the same thing which is written by sages. No, Their

contention was against the then concept on the basis of their

findings but it was not accepted because it was against the

religious concept. If you are poor in religious concept then I am

sorry. Yes it is a continuous stream of development of knowledge

that's why I am asking you to know the level of knowledge when

astrological principle were formulated and for this you have to read

the then concept which is well mentioned in Ved and Puran.

 

 

>>>>>>>Prashna marag of kerala is written may b 16th century and he

himself

says and refers so many horas and books which lost or obselet ,so do u

think kerala astro was devlped in 16th century .<<<<<<<

No, I will not say so but I will say that we have to find the level

of knowledge which was their in 16th century and if book has some

principles based on such concept which have been modified after 16th

century, due to scientific discoveries then the content of the book

will definitely be under question.

 

 

>>>>>>,u say as if science means some solid rock

without change .<<<<<<<

No I have never said so. Rather you are pushing the principle based

on primitive concept of universe like solid rock.

 

 

>>>>>>>>Now today onwards i will not answer ur comments ,u can sent

me ur book because after cheating public i made too much money ,so i

dnt want to

part it with u .<<<<

Not answering is your right. But I am not going to sent you the

book. If you want then you have to buy it. Sorry.

 

>>>>>same way randi fountation also dont accept my challenge and some

fellow

astrologers challenge in out own way .<<<<<<

 

You can write to them. I have already provided you address.

 

Thanks,

Yours,

sanat

sanatkumar_jain

9-12-2007

 

 

Posted by: " sunil nair " astro_tellerkerala

astro_tellerkerala

Tue Dec 4, 2007 11:31 am (PST)

 

 

hare ramakrishna,

 

dear sanat ji ,

 

i going to opt to not reply and i was against u misleading students

,since u hav no interest in knowing astro properly or like ppl selling

mother country and making money u r asking me to prove the scinces and

1000s of books lying in different part of india ,which is not human

possible .

 

u say abt greeks can u tell me one greek astrological books

 

parashara is not one rishi its a title ,like u sanat kumar jain is not

original sant kumara

 

we r using english names now ,it doesnot mean that we got astrology

from

english ,same way laungage devlped in markets ,so munis or rishis or

commentaters use the common laungage used by masses.

 

again u said aryab bhatta may be 6th century and a astronomer ,but do

u

thing this sastra originated by him or 10th century bhaskara ,this a

continous stream ,like mohenjadareo harrappan cities may be destroyes

rit now (means b4 5000yers) and do u think so the city devlped in that

century or if u know history u know that it needs a back up of another

5000 years to reach to that extent .

 

same way varahmihira (pre aryabhatta ) or aryabhatta or bhaskara was a

flow in the stream .which started may be 10000 years b4 .i will not

say

10000b4 astro is completely devlped .

 

Prashna marag of kerala is written may b 16th century and he himself

says and refers so many horas and books which lost or obselet ,so do u

think kerala astro was devlped in 16th century .

 

all u r arguemt r similar ,u say as if science means some solid rock

without change .

 

astrology what we need to change ,the circumference or climate in

planets ??

 

what we use in predictive astrology .

 

Now today onwards i will not answer ur comments ,u can sent me ur book

because after cheating public i made too much money ,so i dnt want to

part it with u .

 

same way randi fountation also dont accept my challenge and some

fellow

astrologers challenge in out own way .

 

so sorry we r not eaqual and sastra says to interact with ppl of equal

status .Sp i will not answer u again ,reagrding predictions u can

individauly serch in mails and ask each memebr how correct me is its

not

my duty to trumpet my success or ability ,

 

if u want u come presonaly and pay my time i am ready .

 

regrds sunil nair

 

i request all gurus to avoid this man who dont know the basic of

scientifc enquiry .

 

he wanted us to prov to his cousins .how i can prov sugar is sweet

unless he is not ready to take it .

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sanat2221 "

<sanatkumar_jain wrote:

>

> Dear Nair,

> Thanks for your mail.

> I think there is no harm in knowing many things.