Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Dear Lalit, Thanks for your reply.Could you please be more eloborate in your explanation ?? I am a little skeptical of this chart as Shani Maharaj occupies the Lagna (in Vakra Gati).This can be disastrous for Raja Yogas in her chart (as it rules the 7th a Maraka house and the 8th the worst Dusthana).In addition Shani Maharaj is aspecting the 10th which is it's Neecha Rasi If this is her actual chart,then she does not have too many years left. She will just fade away from the political scene (Shani Maharaj will ensure her fall) Regards, aavesh litsol <litsol wrote: Dear Sir,I got it from the net, i think venus and mars are enough to place sonia where she is right now.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t wrote:>> Namaskar Chandrashekarji and Lalitji,> > Is this her actual chart ??> > There seem to be no prominent Rajyogas to justify her present position> > If I am missing something please let me know> > Regards,> > aavesh> > > > > Chandrashekhar wrote:> Dear Lalit,> > I think the place of birth is Orbassano Italy 45N1 7E32> > Chandrashekhar.> litsol wrote: Sonia Gandhi's horoscope: > Her birth data available to the author is: > Date of birth : > 9th Dec.1946 Time of birth : 21:30 hrs. ( Italian Zonal Standard Time) Place of birth : Turin (Italy) 45N03, 07E40 The horoscope drawn for this data, using Chitrapakshiya Ayanamsa, is as follows: > > > > > > With Best Wishes,> > aavesh> > > > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Dear Sir, In sonia's persona we can easily see retro saturn's influence, mars in 6'th makes her workaholic and pushes her near others than the family, it also ensures good support of co-workers.. a case when ur leadership is made by others. wheras venus is very good for her, gives clean comfort as conjunct with jupitor placed in 4'th and being the lord of 11'th ensurs royal life and gains. if we put togather, active mars and venus makes her concerned with family's legacy leadership too. however, 10'th is not supporting that's why no govt position is indicated, however, as 4'th is strong, family's influence on 10'th (governace) is read here. saturn gives sadness in her mind and that is realized in her attitude, in her communication to various matters. I have not checked the dashas, so i m not sure of the time of ups and downs. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t <aavesh_s wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > Thanks for your reply.Could you please be more eloborate in your explanation ?? > > I am a little skeptical of this chart as Shani Maharaj occupies the Lagna (in Vakra Gati).This can be disastrous for Raja Yogas in her chart (as it rules the 7th a Maraka house and the 8th the worst Dusthana).In addition Shani Maharaj is aspecting the 10th which is it's Neecha Rasi > > If this is her actual chart,then she does not have too many years left. > She will just fade away from the political scene (Shani Maharaj will ensure her fall) > > Regards, > > aavesh > > > litsol <litsol wrote: > Dear Sir, > > I got it from the net, i think venus and mars are enough to place > sonia where she is right now. > > regards, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t > wrote: > > > > Namaskar Chandrashekarji and Lalitji, > > > > Is this her actual chart ?? > > > > There seem to be no prominent Rajyogas to justify her present > position > > > > If I am missing something please let me know > > > > Regards, > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > > > I think the place of birth is Orbassano Italy 45N1 7E32 > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > litsol wrote: Sonia Gandhi's horoscope: > > Her birth data available to the author is: > > Date of birth : > > 9th Dec.1946 Time of birth : 21:30 hrs. ( Italian Zonal > Standard Time) Place of birth : Turin (Italy) 45N03, > 07E40 The horoscope drawn for this data, using Chitrapakshiya > Ayanamsa, is as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without > download. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Aavesh, Saturn in lagna can bring her down - but will it ?,No becoz Moon in 12th. Saturn is natural karaka of 12th house (6 & 8th house also), Moon in 12th and saturn in 1st will support each other and has brought her all the power. Look at her life, all her success as come at a great sacrifice, she gave up her family (@20 yrs) to get a good husband, she lost her husband to get power, even to stay in power, she has to give up PM position. you can see the power of brahmana yoga ( saturn-moon combo, mental strength and atma viswas in her emotional decision making attitude) You can see a similar combination in Indira Gandhi, lalu prasad yadav and Benazir Bhutto horoscopes (swami Vivekananda also). Look at her pet projects in power, helping poor thru bharat nirman ( saturn) and Nuclear deal ( rahu/mars). Saturn in lagna will give her a long life, efficiency, effective with people but she may also see the steady decline in her family status/power as it is in 2nd to moon. but it is also possible that her daughter may revive it and be more successfull than her becoz of her guru-venus combo in 5th house to moon? Chandra, What do you say? Regards Sridhar Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t <aavesh_s wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > Thanks for your reply.Could you please be more eloborate in your explanation ?? > > I am a little skeptical of this chart as Shani Maharaj occupies the Lagna (in Vakra Gati).This can be disastrous for Raja Yogas in her chart (as it rules the 7th a Maraka house and the 8th the worst Dusthana).In addition Shani Maharaj is aspecting the 10th which is it's Neecha Rasi > > If this is her actual chart,then she does not have too many years left. > She will just fade away from the political scene (Shani Maharaj will ensure her fall) > > Regards, > > aavesh > > > litsol <litsol wrote: > Dear Sir, > > I got it from the net, i think venus and mars are enough to place > sonia where she is right now. > > regards, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t > wrote: > > > > Namaskar Chandrashekarji and Lalitji, > > > > Is this her actual chart ?? > > > > There seem to be no prominent Rajyogas to justify her present > position > > > > If I am missing something please let me know > > > > Regards, > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > > > I think the place of birth is Orbassano Italy 45N1 7E32 > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > litsol wrote: Sonia Gandhi's horoscope: > > Her birth data available to the author is: > > Date of birth : > > 9th Dec.1946 Time of birth : 21:30 hrs. ( Italian Zonal > Standard Time) Place of birth : Turin (Italy) 45N03, > 07E40 The horoscope drawn for this data, using Chitrapakshiya > Ayanamsa, is as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without > download. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Dear Aavesh, She does have a Malavya yoga. Venus is strong n navamsha too. Two malefics are in upachaya. Yet as you rightly said, the strength of yogas is not to the extent expected. Her appearance also does not seem to fit the lagna with Saturn there. Her being away from her land of birth too does not appear to be shown by the chart. With celebrities one does not know as to whether one is getting the right chart. Chandrashekhar. aavesh t wrote: Namaskar Chandrashekarji and Lalitji, Is this her actual chart ?? There seem to be no prominent Rajyogas to justify her present position If I am missing something please let me know Regards, aavesh Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar > wrote: Dear Lalit, I think the place of birth is Orbassano Italy 45N1 7E32 Chandrashekhar. litsol wrote: Sonia Gandhi's horoscope: Her birth data available to the author is: Date of birth : 9th Dec.1946 Time of birth : 21:30 hrs. ( Italian Zonal Standard Time) Place of birth : Turin (Italy) 45N03, 07E40 The horoscope drawn for this data, using Chitrapakshiya Ayanamsa, is as follows: With Best Wishes, aavesh Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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