How to look at chart - Let's burn the concepts of benific/malific !!

[Guest guest]

Dear Elders and Group,

 

The more i do read charts and astrology classics, The more I get

confused ........

 

I get the idea that in the last 1000 - 1200 years, we have missed the

way to look at a chart...., is the house specific approach or the planet

specific approach, i mean benific planet / susthana or malific/dusthana

is the right way to study one's life through the chart...

 

I think we will have to burn the immature concepts of

benific/malific.... etc.. a chart should be treated as a living

individual. when we had a review of definitions given like trika,

dustha, koopa etc... from the perspective of continuity of life.

 

Like development in physics, astrology must have new approach to look at

life through the chart if it wants to have it's relevance.

 

regards,

Lalit.

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalitji,

 

Please be patient before casting aspersions on historical approaches.

 

Astrology is a holistic science.

 

First step is to understand how to analyze D-1 and basic Vimsottari

dasa - only then talk about other concepts.

 

I am also a learner and will try to help whereever I am clear in concepts

 

Regards

kiran

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Elders and Group,

>

> The more i do read charts and astrology classics, The more I get

> confused ........

>

> I get the idea that in the last 1000 - 1200 years, we have missed the

> way to look at a chart...., is the house specific approach or the planet

> specific approach, i mean benific planet / susthana or malific/dusthana

> is the right way to study one's life through the chart...

>

> I think we will have to burn the immature concepts of

> benific/malific.... etc.. a chart should be treated as a living

> individual. when we had a review of definitions given like trika,

> dustha, koopa etc... from the perspective of continuity of life.

>

> Like development in physics, astrology must have new approach to look at

> life through the chart if it wants to have it's relevance.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kiran,

 

SJC and particularly Sanjay Rath though took astrology to a new

plateform has done considerable harm to astrology by bringing in so

much D1, D2, D3, D5 .. D100 etc.., secondary is secondary ..., still,

i accept him like newton, but i will ensure a shift in astrology from

newton's era to einsteen's era.

 

Compartment approach block's astrologers vision that's why we have

not seen any performing noteworthy astrologer after varahmihira.

 

kalyan verma, mantreswra or vaidyanaath are not known for doing

significant predictions, same is true for so called nadi astrologers,

u read books written by KN Rao and BV Raman, u wont open them second

time.

 

i m asking same what u have said, a holistic approach and that will

come by burning benefic/malific like immature concepts, a graha has

it's own properties, own karakatwa, it does what it has to do, where

a generalization like malific or benefic comes in picture.

 

life has a flow and in the incessant flow where compartments/houses

comes, there are waves ... the wavefront's should be identified by

houses and should be understood.

 

What i m saying is very core forgotten basic...

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama "

<kiran.rama wrote:

>

> Dear Lalitji,

>

> Please be patient before casting aspersions on historical

approaches.

>

> Astrology is a holistic science.

>

> First step is to understand how to analyze D-1 and basic Vimsottari

> dasa - only then talk about other concepts.

>

> I am also a learner and will try to help whereever I am clear in

concepts

>

> Regards

> kiran

>

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Elders and Group,

> >

> > The more i do read charts and astrology classics, The more I get

> > confused ........

> >

> > I get the idea that in the last 1000 - 1200 years, we have missed

the

> > way to look at a chart...., is the house specific approach or the

planet

> > specific approach, i mean benific planet / susthana or

malific/dusthana

> > is the right way to study one's life through the chart...

> >

> > I think we will have to burn the immature concepts of

> > benific/malific.... etc.. a chart should be treated as a living

> > individual. when we had a review of definitions given like trika,

> > dustha, koopa etc... from the perspective of continuity of life.

> >

> > Like development in physics, astrology must have new approach to

look at

> > life through the chart if it wants to have it's relevance.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Chi.Lalit,

My own humble take on your mail below:

 

i also have some apprehensions with regard to the use of D3, D5, etc

as a few minutes here and there you could have planetary positions

going into another rasi in these Ds! but this is also another way

to rectify the birth time by caliberating it until you get the

events connected with placements in the D charts quite close. which

again should involve a lot of time and effort at one chart until you

get it right. not many of us have that kind of time or energy to do

it as it involves a lot of interaction between the native and the

astrologer for all past events of the jataka.

 

then there is this issue of who is a great astrologer based on his

predictions. varahamihira. yes one of the greatest among them.

there are many who come up with quite good predictions on mundane

astrology. but again it becomes a question of ego clashes of who

came up with the right one first and who copied whom! the roadside

or rural ones are right on target with a jataka's chart and they

astound you with their correct predictions of events but they remain

largely unsung heroes as they have least access to the modern form

of communication with very little or no (self)advertisement.

 

i would like to differ on your take about books written by the

veterans Shri KN Rao and Shri BV Raman. i have learnt a lot more

about astrology and its naunces through the example charts given in

Raoji's books at the formative stages of my learning. this is a

time when one cant sit at the feet of a guru forever and learn

everything there is to astrology. when the basics are learnt and

you are left alone with your knowledge or the lack of it, it is

thanks to these wonderful books on each important topic that help a

beginner in learning a technique. at least i speak for myself and i

give a lot of credit to Shri KN Raoji for bringing these practical

books out when there were none to explain subtle techniques so

lucidly once you know the basics. his books on Yogis, Destiny and

the Wheel of Time (my first and most fav), ups and downs in career,

planets and children, sade saathi, and this is no disrespect to all

those who have written books on the subject. each one brings with

him a certain understanding of the subject and it is upto us to open

our mind and accept what and how they are seeing certain

combinations in a chart.

for example i am in the process of finishing very soon, the first

reading of the book 'Vedic Astrology Demstified' written by Shri

Chandrashekhar Sharmaji of Nagpur. i found it to be very elaborate

in explaining the basic principles. it could well be an

encyclopedia of so many terms with meanings and interpretations of

the author who is himself a sanskrit pandit and an astrologer. he

opens our eyes to think about any combination and not to take any

sloka or sutra at face value only to come to awkward and wrong

conclusions. i liked the chapters which deal with yogas, transits

and vimshottari dashas in this book.

 

and lastly there can no be teacher as good as my own, Shri KB

Gopalakrishnan who taught me astrology where i knew nothing about

the A of Astrology in april 2002! though i missed learning to do

basic calculations, i gained much more about how to check a hc by

laying emphasis on the strong foundation in basics. he was indeed a

very practical and a great teacher of the subject. i owe my basics

and some snapshot nadi techniques to him without which i cannot make

50% of the analysis which i am able to make in a chart today.

 

i read with interest about the intutive powers and Mother's Grace

upon you where astrology is concerned. you are blessed with such

Grace which only comes to a very few. you must have done some punya

in the past to get this in this janma. lucky you!

 

if i have hurt you, please accept my most humble apologies for the

same as that is not my intention at all.

 

may god bless us all with his benign light.

mahalakshmi

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<litsol wrote:

>

> Dear Kiran,

>

> SJC and particularly Sanjay Rath though took astrology to a new

> plateform has done considerable harm to astrology by bringing in

so

> much D1, D2, D3, D5 .. D100 etc.., secondary is secondary ...,

still,

> i accept him like newton, but i will ensure a shift in astrology

from

> newton's era to einsteen's era.

>

> Compartment approach block's astrologers vision that's why we have

> not seen any performing noteworthy astrologer after varahmihira.

>

> kalyan verma, mantreswra or vaidyanaath are not known for doing

> significant predictions, same is true for so called nadi

astrologers,

> u read books written by KN Rao and BV Raman, u wont open them

second

> time.

>

> i m asking same what u have said, a holistic approach and that

will

> come by burning benefic/malific like immature concepts, a graha

has

> it's own properties, own karakatwa, it does what it has to do,

where

> a generalization like malific or benefic comes in picture.

>

> life has a flow and in the incessant flow where

compartments/houses

> comes, there are waves ... the wavefront's should be identified by

> houses and should be understood.

>

> What i m saying is very core forgotten basic...

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri gopalakrishnan Ji,

 

Namaskaar, it's very nice and welcoming to get ur post,I wanted to

have posts from u, and u r posting ..

 

We should give more emphasis on degrees profression within the

signs, how results differ within each degree of a zodiacal sign,

what's difference in various types of aspects of same planet should

not be very difficult for us to fix.

 

I m sorry for commenting on all of KN Rao's books, I have read only

4 - 5 books written by him, he has written more than a dozen. But

the books like ups and downs of the carrers or timing the events

through vimshottari dasha etc.. seems like he is doing some

advertisements, not illustrating what is in his mind or what he

knows, see, if u are so much aftraid of sharing ur knowledge, dont

write a book, if u write, remain honest to ur reader.

 

I know, how much efforts i did and how i was waiting each day till i

receive his books.. my interest got subdued within 2 days.

 

It seems he instructs his students to write books for him, in the

ups and downs of the career, he discusses illness of amitabh

bachchan, he never leaves a chance to show how closely connected he

is with politicians. no wonder, his predictions are going

straightway wrong.

 

Same was with BV Raman's booklets, he has only given introductory

content whereas excpectations from him always have been very high.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " rama

gopalakrishnan " <astromahaluxmi wrote:

>

> Dear Chi.Lalit,

> My own humble take on your mail below:

>

> i also have some apprehensions with regard to the use of D3, D5,

etc

> as a few minutes here and there you could have planetary positions

> going into another rasi in these Ds! but this is also another way

> to rectify the birth time by caliberating it until you get the

> events connected with placements in the D charts quite close.

which

> again should involve a lot of time and effort at one chart until

you

> get it right. not many of us have that kind of time or energy to

do

> it as it involves a lot of interaction between the native and the

> astrologer for all past events of the jataka.

>

> then there is this issue of who is a great astrologer based on his

> predictions. varahamihira. yes one of the greatest among them.

> there are many who come up with quite good predictions on mundane

> astrology. but again it becomes a question of ego clashes of who

> came up with the right one first and who copied whom! the

roadside

> or rural ones are right on target with a jataka's chart and they

> astound you with their correct predictions of events but they

remain

> largely unsung heroes as they have least access to the modern form

> of communication with very little or no (self)advertisement.

>

> i would like to differ on your take about books written by the

> veterans Shri KN Rao and Shri BV Raman. i have learnt a lot more

> about astrology and its naunces through the example charts given

in

> Raoji's books at the formative stages of my learning. this is a

> time when one cant sit at the feet of a guru forever and learn

> everything there is to astrology. when the basics are learnt and

> you are left alone with your knowledge or the lack of it, it is

> thanks to these wonderful books on each important topic that help

a

> beginner in learning a technique. at least i speak for myself and

i

> give a lot of credit to Shri KN Raoji for bringing these practical

> books out when there were none to explain subtle techniques so

> lucidly once you know the basics. his books on Yogis, Destiny and

> the Wheel of Time (my first and most fav), ups and downs in

career,

> planets and children, sade saathi, and this is no disrespect to

all

> those who have written books on the subject. each one brings with

> him a certain understanding of the subject and it is upto us to

open

> our mind and accept what and how they are seeing certain

> combinations in a chart.

> for example i am in the process of finishing very soon, the first

> reading of the book 'Vedic Astrology Demstified' written by Shri

> Chandrashekhar Sharmaji of Nagpur. i found it to be very

elaborate

> in explaining the basic principles. it could well be an

> encyclopedia of so many terms with meanings and interpretations of

> the author who is himself a sanskrit pandit and an astrologer. he

> opens our eyes to think about any combination and not to take any

> sloka or sutra at face value only to come to awkward and wrong

> conclusions. i liked the chapters which deal with yogas, transits

> and vimshottari dashas in this book.

>

> and lastly there can no be teacher as good as my own, Shri KB

> Gopalakrishnan who taught me astrology where i knew nothing about

> the A of Astrology in april 2002! though i missed learning to do

> basic calculations, i gained much more about how to check a hc by

> laying emphasis on the strong foundation in basics. he was indeed

a

> very practical and a great teacher of the subject. i owe my

basics

> and some snapshot nadi techniques to him without which i cannot

make

> 50% of the analysis which i am able to make in a chart today.

>

> i read with interest about the intutive powers and Mother's Grace

> upon you where astrology is concerned. you are blessed with such

> Grace which only comes to a very few. you must have done some

punya

> in the past to get this in this janma. lucky you!

>

> if i have hurt you, please accept my most humble apologies for the

> same as that is not my intention at all.

>

> may god bless us all with his benign light.

> mahalakshmi

>

>

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> <litsol@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kiran,

> >

> > SJC and particularly Sanjay Rath though took astrology to a new

> > plateform has done considerable harm to astrology by bringing in

> so

> > much D1, D2, D3, D5 .. D100 etc.., secondary is secondary ...,

> still,

> > i accept him like newton, but i will ensure a shift in astrology

> from

> > newton's era to einsteen's era.

> >

> > Compartment approach block's astrologers vision that's why we

have

> > not seen any performing noteworthy astrologer after varahmihira.

> >

> > kalyan verma, mantreswra or vaidyanaath are not known for doing

> > significant predictions, same is true for so called nadi

> astrologers,

> > u read books written by KN Rao and BV Raman, u wont open them

> second

> > time.

> >

> > i m asking same what u have said, a holistic approach and that

> will

> > come by burning benefic/malific like immature concepts, a graha

> has

> > it's own properties, own karakatwa, it does what it has to do,

> where

> > a generalization like malific or benefic comes in picture.

> >

> > life has a flow and in the incessant flow where

> compartments/houses

> > comes, there are waves ... the wavefront's should be identified

by

> > houses and should be understood.

> >

> > What i m saying is very core forgotten basic...

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>