How to look at chart - Let's burn the concepts of benific/malific !! (Lalit)

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Dear Lalit, Nice to get your reply.My replies asunder: 1. Secondary is secondary - divisional charts, they gave unnecessary importance to Dx, Too much importance to Divisional charts spoiled the skill required to reveal the life through the natal chart. YOU ARE RIGHT.HOWEVER,IT REQUIRES YEARS OF SKILL TO PREDICT ACCURATELY FROM THE BASIC CHART ALONE,UNTIL SUCH TIME ONE HAS TO RELY ON DIVISIONAL CHARTS2. Sweeping statement - based on study of indian history. COULD YOU BE A LITTLE MORE ELABORATE ON THIS PLS (QUOTING REFERENCES IF POSSIBLE)3. Mantreshwar,Vaidyanath were Daivagyas ..... what about

Varahmihira ? puttting same thing in different wordings ismostly done in last one thousand years, i read classics written by different people in different centuries and hardly any thing new i find, repeatation, why no new addition, VARAHAMIHIRA WAS THE GREATEST DAIVAGYA OF ALL TIME WITHOUT A DOUBT. YOUR DOUBT REQUIRES A ELOBORATE EXPLANATION.I WILL TYPE IT OUT TOMORROW (hopefully)As a result astrology got declined, even it lost it's relevance and came into catagory of blind beliefs... thanx to internet age, so many good people interacting, shairng, learning and advancing astrology now. I AGREE WITH YOU.INTERNET HAS BEEN A BOON TO JYOTISH REVIVAL4. I dont

think Vak Siddhi is required for learning astrology, Vak Siddhi is a different then astrology, A vak siddha doesnt need to depend on astrology. I WILL REPLY ON THIS TOO TOMORROW Regards, aavesh Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t wrote:>> Dear Lalit,> > A couple of observations on your mail:> > SJC and particularly Sanjay Rath though took astrology to a new > plateform has done considerable harm to astrology by bringing in so > much D1, D2, D3, D5 .. D100 etc.., secondary is secondary ..., still, > i accept him like newton, but i will ensure a

shift in astrology from > newton's era to einsteen's era.> > Could you explain what you mean by secondary is secondary ??> > Compartment approach block's astrologers vision that's why we have > not seen any performing noteworthy astrologer after varahmihira.> > What is your basis for this sweeping statement ??> > kalyan verma, mantreswra or vaidyanaath are not known for doing > significant predictions> > Please understand that Mantreshwar,Vaidyanath were Daivagyas.They wrote classics of Jyotish which have stood the test of time.> > These jyotish classics were meant to be taught by a Guru in the Guru Sishya Parampara.The guru would provide the examples from his experience to supplement his teaching (That is why these books do not contain any example charts)> > Even the translations have charts provided by the commentators only

> > i m asking same what u have said, a holistic approach and that will > come by burning benefic/malific like immature concepts, a graha has > it's own properties, own karakatwa, it does what it has to do, where > a generalization like malific or benefic comes in picture.> > Here again I will tell you some interesting facts.You cannot hope to learn Jyotish is an alloted time frame> > Hart De Fuow (one of the finest Jyotishis in the world today and the BEST TEACHER of Jyotish today learnt Jyotish from a great astrologer in Gujarat for a period of 15 years. (In addition to Ayurveda,> palmistry,Mantra Shastra,yoga)> > He was asked to memorise Shlokas and dwell on their meaning for a couple of days and then his Guru used to add commentary to his understanding.This ensures that Jyotir Vidya enters your system and that is when you get Vak Siddhi.> >

So if you are looking to master Jyotish in a couple of months,you are > going to get the shock of your life !!> > Regards,> aavesh> > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "kiran.rama" > wrote:> >> > Dear Lalitji,> > > > Please be patient before casting aspersions on historical > approaches.> > > > Astrology is a holistic science.> > > > First step is to understand how to analyze D-1 and basic Vimsottari> > dasa - only then talk about other concepts.> > > > I am also a learner and will try to help whereever I am clear in > concepts> > > > Regards> > kiran> > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" > > >

wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Elders and Group,> > > > > > The more i do read charts and astrology classics, The more I get> > > confused ........> > > > > > I get the idea that in the last 1000 - 1200 years, we have missed > the> > > way to look at a chart...., is the house specific approach or the > planet> > > specific approach, i mean benific planet / susthana or > malific/dusthana> > > is the right way to study one's life through the chart...> > > > > > I think we will have to burn the immature concepts of> > > benific/malific.... etc.. a chart should be treated as a living > > > individual. when we had a review of definitions given like trika,> > > dustha, koopa etc... from the perspective of continuity of life.> > >

> > > Like development in physics, astrology must have new approach to > look at> > > life through the chart if it wants to have it's relevance.> > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > >> >> > > > > >