Dasha - Basics

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Lalitji,

 

Key is how to interpret the results using Vimsottari dasa system.

 

Let us discuss that -

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Kiran

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol

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> Hi Group,

> I wish to begin the topics given by Aavesh Ji as early as possible, but

> aspects, dasha and transits will be required to understand those topics,

> so, posting these basics, not written by me, i have only collected the

> information -

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> The dasa shows how our karma unfolds in Astrology. There are many dasa

> systems in Vedic Astrology that allow us to se karma unfolding here on

> Earth. The most prominent is the Vimshottari dasa system. It is a system

> that uses a 120 year cycle where each planet rules a certain number of

> years, which is also broken down into sub periods from there. The sub

> periods (called bhuktis) are in the same order and divided relative to

> the dasa length below. For instance Ketu dasa starts with Ketu / Ketu,

> then Ketu / Venus, then Ketu / Sun, etc. Very accurate results are

> possible using this dasa system to predict what karmas will unfold at

> what time.

> The planetary dasas in the Vimshottari dasa system unfold in

> this order.

> 1. Ketu 7 years

> 2. Venus 20 years

> 3. Sun 6 years

> 4. Moon 10 years

> 5. Mars 7 years

> 6. Rahu 18 years

> 7. Jupiter 16 years

> 8. Saturn 19 years

> 9. Mercury 17 years

>

> There is much speculation about why they are in this order. I have heard

> many theories and I like them all. There is a strange harmony to this

> dasa order that seems to work. It is relevant to view the dasa system as

> a microcosm of the human life.

> The dasa system starts with Ketu, as it is the planet where we are

> closest to God, where the soul is not yet rooted in the body as we often

> observe in very young children. Ketu is the dasa where we become aware

> of all that we do not need. Just as the infant only needs breath and

> minimal sustenance, beyond that he is more essence than substance.

> Relative human age 0-1 years

> Venus dasa is when this baby is nurtured and cared for by Venus, the

> nurturer. Venus is the dasa that feeds the fat baby. Hers is the longest

> dasa as on Earth as we come here to learn to care for each other, in a

> body first. So this body needs care and courtesy while it is learning.

> This is the most important time in our lives, when our mind and

> perceptions about the world are forming. Relative human age 1 -3 years

> Sun dasa shows the emergence of our individual identity, ready to shine

> from his light, no longer feeling the need to be supported by others.

> This necessary ego-centricity allows a healthy sense of self to emerge,

> a healthy ego is one where we feel positively empowered, not allowing

> others to run over our boundaries or us to over run theirs. Relative

> human age 4-12 years

> Moon dasa is the need to connect this individual experience with others

> in a meaningful way. It is no longer enough to just feel ourselves

> shine; we must learn to see ourselves as a reflection through the eyes

> and experiences of others and reflected back to us in society. We become

> sensitive like the awkward teenager in the Moon dasa. Relative human age

> 13 - 19 years

> Mars dasa is when we learn to compete with others in the world and learn

> to make allies instead of enemies out of our competitors; through

> courage and disciplined action we test our principles in a world of

> consequence through the gregarious and raucous energy of Mars. Relative

> human age 20 - 27 years

> Rahu shows our worldly life and our material existence. With the

> exuberance of youth behind us we are in the world, enmeshed in Maya and

> accumulation. Marriage, Children, career, and all the trappings of adult

> worldly life and its ability to veil our higher intelligence is the soul

> in Rahu dasa. Relative human age 28 - 40

> Jupiter dasa is where we can reclaim our inherent wisdom after Rahu runs

> us crazy! It is a time when we feel our load has been lightened or at

> least we feel back in control of our mind. Jupiter comes to provide

> insight, maturity and life lessons, as he is also Guru, teacher, so we

> can share some of our wisdom with others. Relative human age 40-55

> Saturn dasa is when we will become aware of our limitations and learn to

> be practical about them. After the enthusiasm of Jupiter, Saturn will

> bring us back to Earth and make us face reality. Reality is not the

> optimism of Jupiter it is the cold hard facts of Saturn. Those facts are

> the death of our body and the temporal nature of all material life.

> Saturn will give us the time to work through our karma in isolation.

> Relative human age 55 - 65

> Mercury dasa is when we can become like a child again, playful and

> non-judgmental, but through knowledge and clear thinking, not through

> ignorance. After the practical heaviness of Saturn our mind is clear and

> open and capable of discrimination, jnana yoga. Relative human age 65 -

> ?

>

>

> Transition Periods Between Dasas

>

> When these dasas change, major shifts in energy occur. This is why

> people seem to change overnight, the dasa are what change. To prepare us

> for these radical shifts the preceding bhukti period is always a

> preparatory time, whose energy is similar to the next dasa period.

> Observe:

> The last Bhukti of Ketu dasa is Ketu / Mercury. Mercury Bhukti prepares

> the worldly mind for the approaching Venus dasa, as Mercury is the

> builder and the planet that wants to tangibly manifest a worldly life,

> he helps to bridge the otherworldly Ketu to worldly Venus.

> The last Bhukti of Venus dasa is Venus / Ketu. Ketu Bhukti prepares the

> mind for the purgative nature of the Sun dasa. After 20 years of

> accumulation in Venus dasa the last 14 months Ketu starts to take the

> things away we no longer need.

> The last Bhukti of Sun dasa is Sun / Venus. Venus Bhukti prepares the

> mind for the Moon Maha dasa, as the Moon is where we will seek worldly

> connection and happiness through family and the public and the Sun dasa

> is where we may have been reclusive or interested in more soul (and

> sole) pursuits.

> The Last Bhukti of Moon dasa is Moon / Sun. Sun Bhukti helps to prepare

> the mind for the upcoming Mars dasa, as the independent nature of the

> Sun is similar to that of Mars. Mars is the time when we will find our

> worldly strength and courage; the Sun Bhukti begins that fiery

> transformation in the mind.

> The Last Bhukti of Mars dasa is Mars / Moon. Moon Bhukti prepares the

> material mind for the approaching Rahu dasa and his attachment to the

> world. The Moon is the archetype of the Soul's descent into form, Rahu

> is the subconscious attachment to materiality and its ability to eclipse

> the mind, (the Moon) thus the Moon is helpful here.

> The last Bhukti of Rahu dasa is Rahu / Mars. Mars Bhukti prepares the

> inspired and gracious mind for Jupiter with his courage and discipline.

> The end of Rahu illusions is spent with the general of God's army

> clearing a path through courage, clarity and mental innocence so Jupiter

> will have the room to teach us his higher lessons.

> The last Bhukti of Jupiter dasa is Jupiter / Rahu. Rahu Bhukti prepares

> the practical and realistic mind for Saturn by reattaching itself to

> stress and worldly concerns. Jupiterian optimism must give way to Saturn

> realism. Rahu represents our worldly attachments and bring the stress

> of Saturn in a subconscious way.

> The last Bhukti of Saturn dasa is Saturn / Jupiter. Jupiter Bhukti

> prepares the mind for the Mercury dasa through increased optimism and

> hope. This renewed optimism clears a path for Mercury through which he

> can use to develop our skills, experiment and play. Mercurial play is

> how we learn about the world.

> The last Bhukti or Mercury dasa is Mercury / Saturn. Saturn Bhukti

> prepares for the approaching Ketu dasa by focusing and constricting the

> energy of Mercury. Much has been built and discovered in the 17 years of

> Mercury dasa, we must learn to focus in Ketu, Saturn teaches us to

> concentrate.

> Then it starts over again.

>

> The Moon in the Dasa Scheme.

>

> The start of the first planetary dasa cycle is reckoned from placement

> of the Moon at birth. The Lord of the Nakshatra (corresponding star in

> the Moon sign) will determine the 1st dasa period. The percentage of the

> amount of distance traversed by the Moon through that Nakshatra is

> deducted from the balance of the mean dasa length to determine the first

> dasa length. Example - if the Moon had traveled ¼ through the

> Nakshatra of Bharani, ruled by Venus, then ¼ of the length of Venus

> dasa would be deducted from it's mean length of 20 years. Thus the first

> dasa would be Venus for 16 years.

> The Vimshottari dasa is shown from the Moon because it is from the Moon

> that everything grows, first in our consciousness then later in the

> world. The Moon is the consciousness; it is the mind that has been with

> us for time immemorial. It is where our deep mental impressions (called

> samsaras) reside. When a planetary dasa runs, first we get the samsaras

> from that planet, based on our past karma with it, and then we act upon

> those samsaras, creating new karma. If we have misused that planet's

> energy in past lives or this one, we get those difficult samsaras when

> the dasa runs, thus attracting the experiences we must in order to

> experience our mistakes and learn from them. If we have used that planet

> well, we get those samsaras also.

> It is important to note that assessing dasa periods in a general way can

> be dicey. There are as many possibilities with dasas as there are

> charts. Venus for instance is a first rate benefic, yet as a dusthana

> lord or debilitated, her periods can seem like hell. This is because of

> what is mentioned above. A debilitated planet will show the difficult

> karma associated with it. In that case the themes stated below will be

> the areas of loss and suffering experienced. As an example if Venus is

> harmed we will especially feel pain in relationships, wealth, happiness,

> etc, when her dasa runs, because those are the things she rules. The

> planets have an innate quality and energy and when their period runs we

> will feel that energy for good or ill. When referring to these dasa

> periods we are also referring to their sub periods

>

> Ketu - 7 years. First and foremost the Ketu's job is help us complete

> the karmas we are finishing in this life. His job is to give us only

> what we need and take everything we do not need in order for our soul to

> develop. Worldly success is just as possible in Ketu dasa as any other,

> but much of the time they are things that only last through his dasa and

> no further. Again, this is because he gives it so we can finish with it,

> then he takes it when his dasa is finished. Of course losing things in

> life usually does not feel very good, so many times on either end of

> Ketu dasa, people are suffering, as something is about to end. But Ketu

> only hurts us if we are too attached to things that are unnecessary.

> Ketu supports esoteric and healing careers like Astrology, Yoga or other

> sacred healing practices. Mostly though, his dasa is hot and fast and

> can make life seem out of control. People should always avoid making

> long-term commitments at the end of Ketu dasa, as life is about to

> change drastically. If we are too attached to a meaningless life of

> materiality, Ketu can hurt us deeply. His dasa follows Mercury who is a

> very worldly planet and a builder, so often times the worldly gains of

> Mercury are parsed by the South node and his need for a Spartan

> existence. Ketu is a malefic planet and a cruel one so his energy will

> feel harsh, even when he is giving good things.

> Medical indications: Ketu can give Mars type of accidents and diseases

> as well as mysterious illnesses, muscular or nervous system disorders.

> Psychologically he gives self-doubt as well as a hyper criticism of all

> he is associating with.

>

> Venus - 20 years. Venus is a time when we will mainly seek worldly

> happiness and a loving partnership. Coming after Ketu dasa, Marriage is

> often a theme in Venus dasas or a marriage that has more loving

> qualities of Venus. Wealth is also an important theme as are Women,

> children and other people in general. Venus as a benefic will want to

> give things to us and we must be careful not to fall into the worldly

> quality of her charms and sensual pleasures. Although Venus is Mother

> Lakshmi, the Goddess of beauty and wealth, Venus is also the great

> caretaker and her dasa will make us take better care of people or

> ourselves or make us aware that we are not doing a good job in that area

> of life or that we are not being treated with the courtesy and respect

> that we deserve. She is a Brahmin, a teacher, and she would like to

> teach us in a gentle way, but unfortunately, we do not learn life's deep

> lessons when we are happy in the world, as Venus would like us to be. We

> generally only learn when we are suffering. In being a caretaker she

> would like us to be of service and that also means service to God, as

> Venus is also the main planet of devotion and a higher path of

> surrender. This great benefic would like to give us the kingdom of God

> an a silver platter (with a good meal!) Even when we suffer during her

> dasa there are lessons to learn and it is as gentle as possible.

> Medical indications: As a kapha planet she can give illnesses related to

> internal organs, mainly of the reproductive system, STD's, as well as

> the kidneys, diabetes.

>

> Sun - 6 years. The Sun dasa shows the time when the Souls energy burns

> deeply into the life. We would like to purify and hone our expression

> down to only that which serves to take us to the heights we have

> imagined. It is the time when we are finding our true selves. We may

> experience a crisis of confidence, which spurs the need to seek inner

> truth. Education, spirituality, politics, business, affecting the world

> in a big way, can also be themes of the Sun dasa. If the Sun in weak, we

> will feel hurt by the inability to project the confidence we need to

> blaze a path to truth and light that we have envisioned. The Sun is the

> planet of confidence and charisma, and also the planet with the most

> inherent strength as he lights up the entire chart. His strength and

> forbearance will likely have us sacrifice something, especially after

> the excess and hedonism of Venus dasa. The nature of the Sun as a cruel

> Graha is that he will separate us from those things extraneous and in

> the way. Power is the theme of the Sun dasa, the power to shine as truth

> and to express our unique Soul nature. But we may also suffer, as the

> Sun will burn the impurities we have gathered along the way and separate

> us from those who do not support or comprehend our new and unique path.

> Medical Indications: The Sun rules the basic vitality and energy in the

> body, so if he is weak in the chart his dasa period may show an overall

> decline in vitality. Also he rules the heart and can give heart attacks

> in his dasa period.

>

> Moon - 10 years. The Moon dasa is a time when we seek connection.

> Marriage, family and Motherhood (especially for women) will be themes.

> But also activities involving us with the public and other people will

> be themes. Starting a business, buying a home, staking a claim in the

> tangible world will be important. A strong or well-supported Moon can

> make it s dasa the best time of our lives. A weak Moon can make us feel

> that everyone else has that " normal life " that we don't. If the

> connections to family and children and home are absent, there could be

> much suffering in Moon dasa. It is also a time when memories of our own

> childhood can become major themes as the Moon rules our memories. We

> will likely revisit our own childhood through the evolution of our

> growing family or lack of. How were nurtured and how we nurture others

> will be played out and this possible loss experienced. If indicated we

> may experience some deep mental crises at this time as the Moon is the

> main planet of mental illness and insanity. The Moon is a gentle Graha,

> so even if we are suffering there is no cruelty to her energy. Yet she

> is fickle and lovesick, needy and totally impressionable. Just as the

> Moon itself is the most sensitive part of who we are, so too the Moon

> dasa can be the most vulnerable part of our life.

> Medical Indications: The Moon shows the overall constitution and water

> in the body, the water that maintains our tissues. If the Moon is weak

> we will have excess vata, which makes for nervousness and anxiety in her

> dasa period. The Moon also rules the breasts and can show breast cancer

> or tumors when harmed.

>

> Mars - 7 years The Mars dasa is another hot and fast dasa. It is a time

> when we will be involved in pursuing our goals with energy and passion.

> There will likely be a sense of excitement and energy during this time

> as well as a daring course through the 7 years of Mars dasa. Sports,

> competition and other interests will be important at this time. Mars is

> the planet that makes us want to improve our life through disciplined

> action. His dasa will either bring us closer to that improvement, or

> when Mars is compromised, we will suffer, noticing our lack of strength,

> courage and inability improve. This will either bring complacency, or

> bring us into conflict with others through arguments, fighting and power

> struggles. It is the nature of Mars to fight for what is right, but we

> will be overtaken by our enemies, suffering due to our perceived

> powerlessness if he is weak. Associates, allies and those that we do

> battle with will also be themes in Mars dasa, as well as siblings and

> business relationships and entanglements of all sorts with them. Mars

> also rules landed property so buying a home may be important. Mars is a

> malefic planet so even when he gives things, there is a harsh quality to

> it.

> Medical Indications: He brings stress, hypertension and overexertion, so

> health problems like heart attacks and other stress related ailments

> might appear during his dasa. Also problems with the blood, like

> leukemia are possible as Mars rules the marrow.

>

> Rahu - 18 years. Rahu dasa is a time when our material life can spin

> out of control. Rahu is the planet of our material attachment. Rahu is

> associated by sign, house and planetary conjunction and aspect with the

> qualities we are most in need of developing in this lifetime. As his

> energy eclipses our mind on a subconscious level, his dasa period can

> feel like things we do not understand are compelling us. Mysterious

> scenarios will unfold and put us in places we would have never imagined.

> Then unexpectedly, everything changes and we are doing something totally

> different. His energy is similar to Ketu, (the other half of the Node)

> but with Rahu it is our subconscious obsessions that are controlling us,

> compelling us to develop those parts of ourselves that are in need of

> developing. Yet Rahu can bring enormous success during his dasa period

> as he will be focused and determined to explode the worldly quality of

> whatever he is associating with. There is also psychic events and

> kundalini experiences possible with Rahu. But in general, during his

> dasa periods we are likely to feel out of control as we accumulate or

> experience without wisdom or maturity.

> Medical Indications: Rahu creates mysterious illnesses, often time of

> the nervous system like weird allergies, toxic poisonings and

> environmental diseases. Physical ailments that occur during Rahu periods

> are especially hard to cure because of the obscuring nature of this

> node. Many times a person will not become cured until Jupiter dasa, when

> suddenly something changes and they are better.

>

> Jupiter - 16 years. After 18 years of Rahu we get the dasa of the great

> benefic Jupiter. As guru, Jupiter will always teach us something and

> give us something. His dasa periods bring children, marriage, wealth as

> well as titles and honors. Jupiter is the planet of hope, faith and

> optimism that allows us to keep going because we believe our best days

> are yet to come. He can make us religious, put us in touch with our

> Guru, and give the right moral conduct and the awareness to do the good

> rather than the bad. When Jupiter is weak his dasa may make us

> unrealistic, overly optimistic or have a sense of self-entitlement or a

> haughty view. He may bring bad teachers or problems with them. Also when

> weak, Jupiter will deprive health, wealth, children and many other

> things, forcing the native to find a deeper fulfillment without them.

> However, Jupiter is a gentle Graha and though we may suffer, he will

> give usually give knowledge and right understanding of the problem. He

> has a way of putting us into situations that increase our understanding

> of life and our problems. Suddenly we will meet a person who introduces

> us to our Guru, or some random event will change our lives for the

> better. Jupiter is God's grace, that ineffable force, that good karma

> that is always leading us higher.

> Medical indications: As a planet of expansion and a kapha planet,

> Jupiter can create obesity. Also he has to do with allergies and excess

> phlegm. As ruling tissue he can be the excess mass that is shown by the

> body producing cancer cells. Psychologically, Jupiter brings optimism

> and

>

> Saturn - 19 years. The expansive nature of Jupiter gives way to the

> practical persevering quality of Saturn dasa. Saturn dasa is a time when

> we will face our limitations. The inescapable truth is that our limited

> body and mind will perish one day. Saturn makes us aware of this through

> the aches and pains in our body; the death of our loved ones, chronic

> illness and the resulting fear of these things getting worse. The more

> attached we are to worldly gain and pleasures; the more Saturn dasa may

> hurt us. However great success is also possible, as Saturn is a planet

> of practical efforts and perseverance leading us toward our goals. He

> gives a very responsible nature and high levels of ambition. However,

> much of this external focus is an avoidance of the inner work that must

> be done in order for the mind and heart to settle. In such cases, Saturn

> may bury us beneath a mountain of responsibility until we relent or

> break down physically and emotionally. His dasa can place us in

> hospitals; make us deal with old people, death, legacies and

> inheritance. Insurance, wills, banks, things attached to legacies and

> family history are relevant. Saturn is the planet of pressure, internal

> and external. He is the great karmic taskmaster who rules with an iron

> grip, bringing suffering commensurate to our avoidance of truth. As

> such, a Saturn dasa is also a time when enormous spiritual growth and

> progress is possible through perseverance and facing the truth alone,

> which is the only possibility. He teaches us to thrive in isolation

> rather than crave worldly distractions. He teaches us to get by with

> less and simplify our lives. And, he teaches us humility and sensitivity

> to others. Because when we suffer we develop compassion for others who

> suffer.

> Medical: Saturn is the indicator of chronic illness. He is a vata

> planet that brings pain to the joints and drying to the body. Arthritis,

> paralysis, constipation, cancer as well as problems with the knees,

> teeth and bones are possible in Saturn dasa. Psychologically, he brings

> depression, anxiety, fear, cynicism, bitterness and depression.

>

> Mercury - 17 years. The limitations and restrictions that define Saturn

> dasa give way to the playful and curious energy of Mercury dasa. Mercury

> dasa is a time of learning, experimentation, curiosity, mental

> stimulation and pursuing our interests. But he can also be a time of

> excessive stimulation and unfocused action. The neutral quality of

> Mercury is always a potential problem. He does not judge he builds. It

> is his job to find the right details necessary to succeed and build our

> life. Saying the right things, making the right decisions, talking to

> the right people, are what allow us to succeed, or not succeed as well

> as show how we will go about it. Whatever is influencing Mercury will

> show how we go about things and how they will manifest in the world.

> Thus Mercury dasa is a time when our career and worldly life could

> skyrocket or plummet. We can either ascend to the heights by devising an

> effective plan or become overwhelmed by the many tasks and details of

> life, which can spiral into mental escapism, lethargy and fantasy. He is

> the lightning fast quality of the mind. That speed is necessary for the

> equanimity that he brings. The capacity to see all possibilities at once

> and prioritize and assess them accurately is what makes Mercury the God

> of discrimination. More than any other planet, Mercury gives us

> detachment from our emotions, which is truly discrimination in action

> Medical: Lungs, allergies, skin problems, Speech defects, Mercury is a

> planet of the mind, like the Moon, serious afflictions to him can

> manifest as mental illness.

>