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Nirvanika,

 

Merucry and venus in this horoscope makes native a highly illustrious

author with psychic experiences and gives wealth through legacy, she

may write in a occultist's tone. marriage comes to her in travels or

throuh some communicative links or through chat windows.

 

There are lots of Raj Yogas and she is some one with good moral

values, Already Saturn's Mahadasha is running which will be giving

her good recognition in profession. She is a developed intellectual

personality, energetic and inventive.

 

For her, In the romance variety is the spice of life.

 

She is blessed with a loving mother. One noticiable thing of this

horoscope is none of the planets are in debility , mostly placed in

friendly houses. She may like lord vishnu but may get distracted to

tantrik cults. I wont suggest this to her.

 

Mars may put her in friendship of people who may even publicly oppose

her, mars also reduces the happiness of brother but gives good

profitable gains also to native.

 

She may like to remain independant because some ill intensional

person may influence her to overlook her marriage and to strain her

relationship with her life partner, therefore, She may do some

mistakes towards her honey dear, So, pls. suggest her in friendly

manner to remain caring and honest to her honey dear whereas, He will

have high respect and love for this native, gain through the marriage

is also indicated.

 

Later part of life will be full of more comforts and luxuries.

 

 

2007 was not a very happy year for this person from 18 December

2007 to 08 January 2008 health needs care, injuries / blood disorders

etc .. also puts tension in homely life.

 

From April - 2008 onwards there is professional growth and change of

residence.

 

Take Care !

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " healing spaces "

<healingspaces@> wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krsna

> Dear members,

> Was just going through the posts and found the discussion on 8th

House and

> Lord.

> here is a chart with libra lagna where lagna lord and 8th lord are

common

> being Venus. The lagna lord goes to 9th house conjunct sun and

moon , while

> there is an *exchange between 8th and 9th lord* mercury and venus.

> *Though the exchange is between the trikona and dusthana house*, i

feel

> there would be less malefic influences since 8th lord is also lagna

> lord.andwoudl strongly give for 9th house as it is in exchange.

> Mercury gone to 8th

> house may also not be as detrimental.

> lets see what you all have to say. interestingly all the planets

Sun moon

> and venus are in nakshatra of rahu which brings their inclination

to first

> house. More so rahu is itself in nakshatra of rahu sitting right at

lagna

> degree.

> date 27 june 1976

> place jaipur city

> time 15:05

> Thanks for the time and space

> Nirvanika

>

>

> On Dec 19, 2007 12:25 PM, nalini swamy <nalini2818@ > wrote:

>

> > Hare Rama Krsna

> > Hrau Namah Adityaya

> >

> > Dear Lalit ji,

> > Namaskar.

> >

> > Take my chart for example, my 8th lord is Sani Maharaj who is

also the 9th

> > lord. The 8th bhava has the 5 and 12 th lord, 6th and 11th lord

(exalted).

> > BTW bhagyasthana is Kumbha occupied by Surya(uttamamsa).

> > I have been always given two versions of it, one -bhagyasthana was

> > afflicted and another not.

> > For premise we could even leave the tenancy of the 9th house and

focus on

> > the lordship alone.

> > I would love inputs from Gurus for learning..

> > I also understand it is a piecemeal observation for academic

study, not

> > taking into account other factors.

> > Regards

> > Nalini

> >

> >

> > *

> > *

> >

> >

> >

> > litsol <litsol@>

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > Wednesday, 19 December, 2007 5:58:21 PM

> > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Exceptions to 8'th House

> >

> > Dear Prabodh Ji,

> >

> > Let's check it with the help of couple of horoscopes. That will

be a

> > great help to all of us from our Gurus like u.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@

s.com<Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

> > " Prabodh Vekhande "

> > <amolmandar@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar ji

> > >

> > > First it says

> > >

> > > " Bhagyavyayadhiptye na randresho na shubhaprada "

> > >

> > > Lord of the 8th is not auspicious, being 12th house lord to 9th

> > > house.

> > > then it goes on

> > >

> > > " lagnatrikonapavash at sa eva shubhado mataH "

> > >

> > > But if it(8th lord) is trikonesh as well,then it will become

> > benefic.

> > >

> > >

> > > It is in Choukhanba Sanskrit Sansthan BPHS by Devashandra Za.

> > Atleast

> > > in this edition,we dont get a condition of 8th lord placement.

> > Which

> > > one to read and follow?

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.

> > >

> > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > Har Har Shankar

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@

s.com<Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

> > Chandrashekhar

> > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prabodh,

> > > >

> > > > Read what Parashara says carefully, again. He says that only

when

> > > such a

> > > > graha is lagnesha and is placed in Lagna or the 8th it is not

to

> > be

> > > > considered ashubha. He does not say about its being shubha

only

> > by

> > > being

> > > > the co-lord of the 9th or trine to it. I am pasting the

shloka,

> > > with its

> > > > approximate translation (as much is lost in English

translation)

> > > for

> > > > your ready reference.

> > > >

> > > > ÉaGyVyaixpTyen rNØezae n zuÉàd>,

> > > >

> > > > bhägyavyädhipatyena randhreço na çubhapradaù |

> > > >

> > > > s @v zuÉsNxata l¶axIzae=ip cet! Svym!.9.

> > > >

> > > > sa eva çubhasandhätä lagnädhéço'pi cet svayam ||9||

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _Lord of the 8^th is not auspicious, being 12^th house lord to

> > 9^th

> > > > house. However if he is also Lord of lagna and occupies Lagna

or

> > > 8^th

> > > > house he gives benefic results._

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Of course if you are referring to any other shloka, please

let me

> > > know

> > > > which shloka you are referring to.

> > > >

> > > > Take care,

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Chandrashekhar ji Namaste

> > > > >

> > > > > As per Parashara, 8th lord if as well be trine lord should

be

> > > > > considerd as Shubha. As per Parashara, 8th house is ashubha

> > since

> > > it

> > > > > is 12th to 9th the bhagya. So when 8th lord is colord of

9th or

> > > trine

> > > > > to it, it does not affect badly to bhgaya and hence should

be

> > > treated

> > > > > as Shubha.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.

> > > > >

> > > > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > > > Har Har Shankar

> > > > >

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@

s.com<Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>

> > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhealing% 40. com>,

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > They are yet not treated as functional benefics, for dasha

> > > > > analysis. The

> > > > > > results are mixed as you rightly deduce. generally if the

> > graha

> > > > > owns a

> > > > > > good house and another is the 6th or the 8th it is not

> > > considered a

> > > > > > functional benefic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > litsol wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Group/Elders,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pls. correct/enhance following , if required -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > a) If one and same planet is lord of 1st and 8'th , eg -

> > Mars

> > > for

> > > > > > > Aries Asc and Venus for Libra Asc, is not considered

bad.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > b) If one and same planet is lord of 5'th *and* 8'th

eg -

> > Jup

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > Leo Asc and Merc for Aquar Asc and placed in 5'th *or

*8'th

> > > not

> > > > > > > considered bad.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > c) If on and same planet is lord of 8'th and 9'th eg -

Sat

> > for

> > > > > Gemini

> > > > > > > Asc and placed in 9'th is not bad.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My View : Though not bad, but should not be fully good

also,

> > > > > mixed

> > > > > > > results we should derive.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will be posting exceptions to other houeses also.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Send instant messages to your online friends

http://au.messenger.

> >

> >

>

 

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Hello Lalit . So sorry was could not reply due to busy schedule and its getting tougher by the day!

here

is the feedback to your valuable comments in green! Some points u made

were Bang and some i would not know unless i closely observe her life

in Future. and also would like to find reasonsOn Dec 21, 2007 1:41 AM, litsol <litsol wrote:

 

 

 

 

Nirvanika,

Merucry and venus in this horoscope makes native a highly illustrious author with psychic experiences and gives wealth through legacy, she may write in a occultist's tone. marriage comes to her in travels or throuh some communicative links or through chat windows.

Well not much of a writer , but she did find her fiance through WWB. There are lots of Raj Yogas and she is some one with good moral values, Already Saturn's Mahadasha is running which will be giving her good recognition in profession. She is a developed intellectual personality, energetic and inventive.

Yes Saturn seems great! Yogakaraka placed in 10th which is current dasha and has brought her good recognition in profession. she is definitely hard working and has developed an impressive personality.

 

For her, In the romance variety is the spice of life.Would not know much on this ! but what combination drives you to that !

Everybody would have different definition of romance today and i wonder

what house it is associated too.

She is blessed with a loving mother. One noticiable thing of this

horoscope is none of the planets are in debility , mostly placed in

friendly houses. She may like lord vishnu but may get distracted to

tantrik cults. I wont suggest this to her.she

is not very spiritual or religious per se! I would disagree on tantrik

cults, i dotn see any inclination of her in that line.

Tantrik Mars may put her in friendship of people who may even publicly oppose

her, mars also reduces the happiness of brother but gives good

profitable gains also to native.Why

would you relate and say tantrik mars. She has a loving and doting

younger brother, she is doing well in life for mars to give gains in

11th upchaya house, with saturn yet another malefic in upchaya.

 

 

She may like to remain independant because some ill intensional

person may influence her to overlook her marriage and to strain her

relationship with her life partner, therefore, She may do some

mistakes towards her honey dear, So, pls. suggest her in friendly

manner to remain caring and honest to her honey dear whereas, He will

have high respect and love for this native, gain through the marriage

is also indicated.Don't

understand the reason for this as why a strong girl like her would

get influenced by any body! any combinations for this. her fiance is

doing extremely well and is extremely protective of her.

 

 

Later part of life will be full of more comforts and luxuries.You mean the Coming mahadashas after Saturn. probably mercury-venus could bring the results of exchange ! what u say !

 

 

2007 was not a very happy year for this person from 18 December

2007 to 08 January 2008 health needs care, injuries / blood disorders

etc .. also puts tension in homely life.

2007

has been lucky for her, she found her to Be , and she travelled abroad

a couple of times. she is doing pretty well in this duration , infact

all set to marry in coming times! From April - 2008 onwards there is professional growth and change of residence.Possible

as her to Be is abroad and she will look for a change of job and place

likely.! will update you on this in Month of April !

 

Take Care !

regards, Nirvanika

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Nirvanika,

Hope following will answer to points highlighted by you -

1. Good Communication skill, incliniation to express herself better will lead her towards writing, Still she has good potential, It was my insight to reveal Chat Window or WWB, ..... if I put my mind harldly go wrong.2. Romance - A mercurian person with mercury placed in 8'th house along with Rahu is in Lagna. Rahu will make her extrovert and this mercury makes her romantic with spicy inclination to n'joy more.

3. She is not very spiritual or religious per se. ### See, lagna lord venus in 9'th gives liking for a god of satvika order but that should be glamorous, Vishnu is a personification of these 2 qualities, however, Venus being 8'th lord, also reduces the expression of the interest, I dont mean rituals, but inner liking for her God, 8'th lord in 9'th also gives interst in secretive things like beliefs in spirits etc, that's why i did say tantrik cults ... etc, she may like to wear tantrums or even may go for piercing body with 'aum' or something like this which is supposed good and not so common.

4. Tantrik Mars is a typing mistake, I mean - 11'th mars will not give good friends and will reduce happiness of brother in middle of life or in appropriate dasha.

5. Strong girl has rahu in lagna, such a girl is more vulnerable to fall in influence of a clever man with good impression but not good at heart, Rahu creates obsession, will not allow her to think precisely. Jupitor is 3rd as ell as 6'th lord also so more chances to get a wrong guy.

6. A boy friend need not be a husband, I cant say anything, a boy friend may be a person indicated above ? In astrology husband is a valid husband with valid marriage. For boy friend or girl friend we need to update astrology.

7. Yearly result i said was for health and for relatives, because Muntha is placed in 6th House.

1. Mercury : from 28 June 2007 to 11 August 2007

2. Venus : from 01 September 2007 to 31 October 2007

3. Sun : from 31 October 2007 to 18 November 2007

These periods came one after another came to give growth in profession, change of residence may happen from march 2008 onwards also.

Rest will be tomorrow or when i m free !!

regards,Lalit.

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "healing spaces" <healingspaces wrote:>> Hello Lalit .> So sorry was could not reply due to busy schedule and its getting tougher by> the day!> here is the feedback to your valuable comments in green! Some points u made> were Bang and some i would not know unless i closely observe her life in> Future. and also would like to find reasons> > On Dec 21, 2007 1:41 AM, litsol litsol wrote:> > > Nirvanika,> >> > Merucry and venus in this horoscope makes native a highly illustrious> > author with psychic experiences and gives wealth through legacy, she> > may write in a occultist's tone. marriage comes to her in travels or> > throuh some communicative links or through chat windows.> >> > > > > > > Well not much of a writer , but she did find her fiance through WWB.> > > > > > > There are lots of Raj Yogas and she is some one with good moral> values, Already Saturn's Mahadasha is running which will be giving> her good recognition in profession. She is a developed intellectual> personality, energetic and inventive.> > Yes Saturn seems great! Yogakaraka placed in 10th which is current dasha> and has brought her> good recognition in profession. she is definitely hard working and has> developed an impressive personality.> > >> > For her, In the romance variety is the spice of life.> >> > Would not know much on this ! but what combination drives you to that !> > Everybody would have different definition of romance today and i wonder what> > house it is associated too.> >> > > She is blessed with a loving mother. One noticiable thing of this> > > horoscope is none of the planets are in debility , mostly placed in> > > friendly houses. She may like lord vishnu but may get distracted to> > > tantrik cults. I wont suggest this to her.> > >> > she is not very spiritual or religious per se! I would disagree on tantrik> > cults, i dotn see any inclination of her in that line.> >> > > Tantrik Mars may put her in friendship of people who may even publicly> > > oppose> > > her, mars also reduces the happiness of brother but gives good> > > profitable gains also to native.> > >> > Why would you relate and say tantrik mars. She has a loving and doting> > younger brother, she is doing well in life for mars to give gains in 11th> > upchaya house, with saturn yet another malefic in upchaya.> >> > >> > > She may like to remain independant because some ill intensional> > > person may influence her to overlook her marriage and to strain her> > > relationship with her life partner, therefore, She may do some> > > mistakes towards her honey dear, So, pls. suggest her in friendly> > > manner to remain caring and honest to her honey dear whereas, He will> > > have high respect and love for this native, gain through the marriage> > > is also indicated.> > >> > Don't understand the reason for this as why a strong girl like her would> > get influenced by any body! any combinations for this. her fiance is doing> > extremely well and is extremely protective of her.> >> > >> > > Later part of life will be full of more comforts and luxuries.> > >> > You mean the Coming mahadashas after Saturn. probably mercury-venus could> > bring the results of exchange ! what u say !> >> > >> > > 2007 was not a very happy year for this person from 18 December> > > 2007 to 08 January 2008 health needs care, injuries / blood disorders> > > etc .. also puts tension in homely life.> > >> > 2007 has been lucky for her, she found her to Be , and she travelled> > abroad a couple of times. she is doing pretty well in this duration , infact> > all set to marry in coming times!> > From April - 2008 onwards there is professional growth and change of> > residence.> >> > Possible as her to Be is abroad and she will look for a change of job and> > place likely.! will update you on this in Month of April !> >> > * Take Care !> >> > regards,** Nirvanika *> >>

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