Guest guest Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Dear Chandrashekhar ji Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita related section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a scientific bent of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same reason i had supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His Moola/Mooladhara theories are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the past.However as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 savana days as well with success. Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there can be other elements which may be having further scope for perfection.In that case the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste rather will become reference points for future researchers. I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars like you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is your generosity and i know my limitations.It is only because your blessings i am able to understand a few shlokas. As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not supposed to beleive something ,just because it was told by some one else or is mentioned in some text - but through our own experiments and realization.Thus i do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha through an open approach with justice to conscience. As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times and as every individual has some limitations,effort to correct them is only the way out. Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I understand that growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give everyone the required maturity. Respect Pradeep Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way connected with Shreenadh. > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he is the originator > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a knowledgeable > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am sure there some > misunderstanding here. > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable opinion of > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are offensive while putting > across their views. > > Chandrashekhar. > > litsol wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of cheapness - Srinadha is > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom i already warned > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. he should be > > facing same thing. > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt understand native > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse any thing. > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in groups they get > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met him, Rup Sir > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind and level of > > astrology knowedge. > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his influence,Though > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur life, u cant do > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence also, coz > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things systematically. > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he reacts and told > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low poisonous mind > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what sanskaars he has, i > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before me. > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's cheapness. He called > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi hai ... " . > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari ayanamsha, he is a > > well > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it may not be such a > > good > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want to use Chandra > > Hari > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to popularize one > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz those who are > > behind > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their motives. > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on Varahmihira's Surya > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error in it's Solar > > Year > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 minutes error, so, > > any > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta is first > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's name, their pain is. > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand so bringing all > > sort > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 The very base of whole Ayanamsha Excercise is wrong if the error contained in Surya Siddhanta is not rectified. You never did write a single line towards this error and joined Srinadha to propogate this as " True Ayanamsha " . Nobody ever discuassed how mathamtically its beter than other ayanamshas except writing hundreds of the posts stating Chandrahari is a astroniomer, why if somebody though he is astronomer, should not be discussed honestly,openly and widely ..., why this error factor was not included in ur discussions. half truth is only half of truth .... !!! Srinadha and you even had bitter interactions with a nice person like PV Narsimha Rao also, I have seen all those mails in last 4-5 days, as i was not part of any astrology group other than Rup Sir's group. ~Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita related > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a scientific bent > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same reason i had > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His Moola/Mooladhara theories > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the past.However > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 savana days > as well with success. > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there can be other > elements which may be having further scope for perfection.In that case > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste rather will become > reference points for future researchers. > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars like > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is your generosity > and i know my limitations.It is only because your blessings i am able > to understand a few shlokas. > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not supposed to beleive > something ,just because it was told by some one else or is mentioned > in some text - but through our own experiments and realization.Thus i > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha through an open > approach with justice to conscience. > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times and as every > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them is only the way > out. > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I understand that > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give everyone the > required maturity. > > Respect > Pradeep > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way connected with Shreenadh. > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he is the originator > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a knowledgeable > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am sure there some > > misunderstanding here. > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable opinion of > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are offensive while putting > > across their views. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of cheapness - Srinadha is > > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom i already warned > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. he should be > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt understand native > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse any thing. > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in groups they get > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met him, Rup Sir > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind and level of > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his influence,Though > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur life, u cant do > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence also, coz > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things systematically. > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he reacts and told > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low poisonous mind > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what sanskaars he has, i > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before me. > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's cheapness. He called > > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi hai ... " . > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari ayanamsha, he is a > > > well > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it may not be such a > > > good > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want to use Chandra > > > Hari > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to popularize one > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz those who are > > > behind > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their motives. > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on Varahmihira's Surya > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error in it's Solar > > > Year > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 minutes error, so, > > > any > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta is first > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's name, their pain is. > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand so bringing all > > > sort > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Dear Mr Baby Bond, Welcome to the group. Ayanamsha is the basis for casting of a Vedic horoscope. There are various Ayanamshas in vogue viz Lahiri,Raman,Bhasin,Fagan-Bradley,Usha Sashi etc It is better that you take a introductory book on Jyotish to learn more about this. Some good books are : (i)Light on Life (By Hart De Fuow and Robert Svoboda) (ii)Ancient Hindu astrology for the modern western astrologer (By James Braha) Regards, aavesh P.S:You have a real cool nickname :Baby Bond baby_james_bond <baby_james_bond wrote: Dear Lalitji,I am new to astrology. Can anyone tell what is this ayanamsa is about. Is it required in making a horoscope ?regards,babyVedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" wrote:>> The very base of whole Ayanamsha Excercise is wrong if the error> contained in Surya Siddhanta is not rectified.>> You never did write a single line towards this error and joined> Srinadha to propogate this as "True Ayanamsha".>> Nobody ever discuassed how mathamtically its beter than other> ayanamshas except writing hundreds of the posts stating Chandrahari> is a astroniomer, why if somebody though he is astronomer, should> not be discussed honestly,openly and widely ..., why this error> factor was not included in ur discussions.>> half truth is only half of truth .... !!!>> Srinadha and you even had bitter interactions with a nice person> like PV Narsimha Rao also, I have seen all those mails in last 4-5> days, as i was not part of any astrology group other than Rup Sir's> group.>> ~Lalit.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Vijayadasji is correct I request Lalitji to stop all this name calling of fellow astrologers - else, I maybe forced to leave this group. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita related > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a scientific bent > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same reason i had > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His Moola/Mooladhara theories > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the past.However > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 savana days > as well with success. > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there can be other > elements which may be having further scope for perfection.In that case > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste rather will become > reference points for future researchers. > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars like > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is your generosity > and i know my limitations.It is only because your blessings i am able > to understand a few shlokas. > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not supposed to beleive > something ,just because it was told by some one else or is mentioned > in some text - but through our own experiments and realization.Thus i > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha through an open > approach with justice to conscience. > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times and as every > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them is only the way > out. > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I understand that > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give everyone the > required maturity. > > Respect > Pradeep > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way connected with Shreenadh. > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he is the originator > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a knowledgeable > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am sure there some > > misunderstanding here. > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable opinion of > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are offensive while putting > > across their views. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of cheapness - Srinadha is > > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom i already warned > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. he should be > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt understand native > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse any thing. > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in groups they get > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met him, Rup Sir > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind and level of > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his influence,Though > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur life, u cant do > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence also, coz > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things systematically. > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he reacts and told > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low poisonous mind > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what sanskaars he has, i > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before me. > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's cheapness. He called > > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi hai ... " . > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari ayanamsha, he is a > > > well > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it may not be such a > > > good > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want to use Chandra > > > Hari > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to popularize one > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz those who are > > > behind > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their motives. > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on Varahmihira's Surya > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error in it's Solar > > > Year > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 minutes error, so, > > > any > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta is first > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's name, their pain is. > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand so bringing all > > > sort > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2007 Report Share Posted December 25, 2007 Kiran, The srinadh who just for a cheap cause that he follows baudhha and embraced osho, found himself free for humilating lord Ram and his whole family, and that's not the one thing, he is willingly spreading so many lies. u dont know he has got a software to translate verses, uses those software to post his mails. What not he did ? He started saying Siddha's are south inidian sect, which is not but a kind of abuse to siddhas, a siddha who believes in ulmighty, who has crossed all sort of worldly limitations and mingled with Supreme God, his poisonous mind doesnt allow him to learn from siddha's life and work, instead of learning from siddhas and overcoming his narrowmindness, his poisonous mind instigates him to see regionalism in siddhas, siddhas who dissolved in universal God, he seeks regionalism in their life.... He doesnt learn from Agastya, from Matsayendranath (Worked in Assam), from Gorakhnath (worked in north India) and so many other siddhaas who work in south, They work for non descrimination and he descrimintes ..., and if u favor him, means u urself has weakness, a weak heart and mind gets confused, no wonder in it. If u understand motive, it's good for u not for me.. A rascal will only remain rasacal for me unless he changes himself. Right !! ~Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama wrote: > > Vijayadasji is correct > > I request Lalitji to stop all this name calling of fellow astrologers > - else, I maybe forced to leave this group. > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita related > > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a scientific bent > > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same reason i had > > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His Moola/Mooladhara theories > > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the past.However > > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 savana days > > as well with success. > > > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there can be other > > elements which may be having further scope for perfection.In that case > > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste rather will become > > reference points for future researchers. > > > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars like > > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is your generosity > > and i know my limitations.It is only because your blessings i am able > > to understand a few shlokas. > > > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not supposed to beleive > > something ,just because it was told by some one else or is mentioned > > in some text - but through our own experiments and realization.Thus i > > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha through an open > > approach with justice to conscience. > > > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times and as every > > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them is only the way > > out. > > > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I understand that > > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give everyone the > > required maturity. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way connected with > Shreenadh. > > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he is the > originator > > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a knowledgeable > > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am sure there some > > > misunderstanding here. > > > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable opinion of > > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are offensive while > putting > > > across their views. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of cheapness - > Srinadha is > > > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom i already warned > > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. he should be > > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt understand native > > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse any thing. > > > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in groups they get > > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met him, Rup Sir > > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind and level of > > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his influence,Though > > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur life, u cant do > > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence also, coz > > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things systematically. > > > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he reacts and told > > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low poisonous mind > > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what sanskaars he has, i > > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before me. > > > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's cheapness. He called > > > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi hai ... " . > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari ayanamsha, he is a > > > > well > > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it may not be such a > > > > good > > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want to use Chandra > > > > Hari > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to popularize one > > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz those who are > > > > behind > > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their motives. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on Varahmihira's Surya > > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error in it's Solar > > > > Year > > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 minutes error, so, > > > > any > > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta is > first > > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's name, their > pain is. > > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand so bringing all > > > > sort > > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2007 Report Share Posted December 25, 2007 Dear Pradeep, I have already said that I respect Chandra Hari for his knowledge. He has advanced a theory which is interesting and worth study. Being an old person, I do not find the time to experiment with his Ayanamsha, but the younger generation could certainly experiment with and find out their own truth. I know that you do not write in vain. Do keep the inquiring spirit alive. take care, Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar ji Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita related section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a scientific bent of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same reason i had supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His Moola/Mooladhara theories are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the past.However as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 savana days as well with success. Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there can be other elements which may be having further scope for perfection.In that case the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste rather will become reference points for future researchers. I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars like you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is your generosity and i know my limitations.It is only because your blessings i am able to understand a few shlokas. As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not supposed to beleive something ,just because it was told by some one else or is mentioned in some text - but through our own experiments and realization.Thus i do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha through an open approach with justice to conscience. As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times and as every individual has some limitations,effort to correct them is only the way out. Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I understand that growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give everyone the required maturity. Respect Pradeep Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way connected with Shreenadh. > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he is the originator > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a knowledgeable > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am sure there some > misunderstanding here. > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable opinion of > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are offensive while putting > across their views. > > Chandrashekhar. > > litsol wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of cheapness - Srinadha is > > behind "True Chandrahari Ayanamsha". > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom i already warned > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. he should be > > facing same thing. > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt understand native > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse any thing. > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in groups they get > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met him, Rup Sir > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind and level of > > astrology knowedge. > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his influence,Though > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur life, u cant do > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence also, coz > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things systematically. > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he reacts and told > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low poisonous mind > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what sanskaars he has, i > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before me. > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's cheapness. He called > > me from Pune saying "Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi hai ... ". > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari ayanamsha, he is a > > well > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it may not be such a > > good > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want to use Chandra > > Hari > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to popularize one > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz those who are > > behind > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their motives. > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on Varahmihira's Surya > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error in it's Solar > > Year > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 minutes error, so, > > any > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta is first > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's name, their pain is. > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand so bringing all > > sort > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dear Chandrashekhar ji Sorry for the delayed reply. I will be starting with a new job from jan 2008 as mentioned to you before and as end of decemeber is the last day with my current client i was bit busy. I am finding 360 days very satisfactory and is able to explain events. However the methodology and mathematical researches done by shri Chandrahari can be used for further researches or enhanced if any corrections are needed. Thank you for your kind words. Respect Pradeep Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > I have already said that I respect Chandra Hari for his knowledge. He > has advanced a theory which is interesting and worth study. Being an old > person, I do not find the time to experiment with his Ayanamsha, but the > younger generation could certainly experiment with and find out their > own truth. > > I know that you do not write in vain. Do keep the inquiring spirit alive. > > take care, > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita related > > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a scientific bent > > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same reason i had > > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His Moola/Mooladhara theories > > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the past.However > > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 savana days > > as well with success. > > > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there can be other > > elements which may be having further scope for perfection.In that case > > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste rather will become > > reference points for future researchers. > > > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars like > > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is your generosity > > and i know my limitations.It is only because your blessings i am able > > to understand a few shlokas. > > > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not supposed to beleive > > something ,just because it was told by some one else or is mentioned > > in some text - but through our own experiments and realization.Thus i > > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha through an open > > approach with justice to conscience. > > > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times and as every > > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them is only the way > > out. > > > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I understand that > > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give everyone the > > required maturity. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way connected with Shreenadh. > > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he is the originator > > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a knowledgeable > > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am sure there some > > > misunderstanding here. > > > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable opinion of > > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are offensive while putting > > > across their views. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of cheapness - Srinadha is > > > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom i already warned > > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. he should be > > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt understand native > > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse any thing. > > > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in groups they get > > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met him, Rup Sir > > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind and level of > > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his influence,Though > > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur life, u cant do > > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence also, coz > > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things systematically. > > > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he reacts and told > > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low poisonous mind > > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what sanskaars he has, i > > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before me. > > > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's cheapness. He called > > > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi hai ... " . > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari ayanamsha, he is a > > > > well > > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it may not be such a > > > > good > > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want to use Chandra > > > > Hari > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to popularize one > > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz those who are > > > > behind > > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their motives. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on Varahmihira's Surya > > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error in it's Solar > > > > Year > > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 minutes error, so, > > > > any > > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta is first > > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's name, their pain is. > > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand so bringing all > > > > sort > > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 feb, march, april.. count few months this way, change ur heart and mind, not always u will get the advice. ~Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > Sorry for the delayed reply. > I will be starting with a new job from jan 2008 as mentioned to you > before and as end of decemeber is the last day with my current > client i was bit busy. > > I am finding 360 days very satisfactory and is able to explain > events. > However the methodology and mathematical researches done by shri > Chandrahari can be used for further researches or enhanced if any > corrections are needed. > > Thank you for your kind words. > > Respect > Pradeep > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > I have already said that I respect Chandra Hari for his knowledge. > He > > has advanced a theory which is interesting and worth study. Being > an old > > person, I do not find the time to experiment with his Ayanamsha, > but the > > younger generation could certainly experiment with and find out > their > > own truth. > > > > I know that you do not write in vain. Do keep the inquiring spirit > alive. > > > > take care, > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita related > > > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a > scientific bent > > > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same reason i had > > > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His Moola/Mooladhara > theories > > > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > > > > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the > past.However > > > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 savana > days > > > as well with success. > > > > > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there can be > other > > > elements which may be having further scope for perfection.In > that case > > > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste rather will > become > > > reference points for future researchers. > > > > > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars like > > > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is your > generosity > > > and i know my limitations.It is only because your blessings i am > able > > > to understand a few shlokas. > > > > > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not supposed to > beleive > > > something ,just because it was told by some one else or is > mentioned > > > in some text - but through our own experiments and > realization.Thus i > > > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha through an open > > > approach with justice to conscience. > > > > > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times and as > every > > > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them is only > the way > > > out. > > > > > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I > understand that > > > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give everyone the > > > required maturity. > > > > > > Respect > > > Pradeep > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > Chandrashekhar > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way connected with > Shreenadh. > > > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he is the > originator > > > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a knowledgeable > > > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am sure there > some > > > > misunderstanding here. > > > > > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable opinion > of > > > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are offensive > while putting > > > > across their views. > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of cheapness - > Srinadha is > > > > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom i > already warned > > > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. he should > be > > > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt understand > native > > > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse any > thing. > > > > > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in groups > they get > > > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met him, > Rup Sir > > > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind and > level of > > > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his > influence,Though > > > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur life, u > cant do > > > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence also, > coz > > > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things > systematically. > > > > > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he reacts > and told > > > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low > poisonous mind > > > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what sanskaars he > has, i > > > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before me. > > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's cheapness. > He called > > > > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi hai ... " . > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > Chandrashekhar > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari ayanamsha, > he is a > > > > > well > > > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it may not be > such a > > > > > good > > > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want to use > Chandra > > > > > Hari > > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to popularize > one > > > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz those > who are > > > > > behind > > > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their motives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on Varahmihira's > Surya > > > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error in it's > Solar > > > > > Year > > > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 minutes > error, so, > > > > > any > > > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta > is first > > > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's name, their > pain is. > > > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand so > bringing all > > > > > sort > > > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dear Brother There is a limit for everything. If you are not changing your attitude i have to stop writing in this forum.I am here because of some individuals whom i respect and have love for. You are finding pleasure through threatening and blackmailing.This is not at all a quality deserved in human beings forget about astrologers. You have to understand that it is not your threats that bring out results but the will of Lord.I have mentioned to you in the past as well that i totally leave everything at the feet of Lord Sankara and my Gurus.HE will take care and act as necessary. Never try your dirty/cheap tricks at me and stop playing GOD.As far as Jyotish is concerned i will write and express my views with love and devotion towards Lord and my Gurus. Every threat that you direct at common souls who are here in this world to discharge their karmas is a threat to Maha Kaala who is none other than Lord Shiva. I will never curse you as you are doing with me continously.Please don't accumulate bad karmas. May GOD bless you. Regds Pradeep Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > feb, march, april.. count few months this way, change ur heart and > mind, not always u will get the advice. > > ~Lalit. > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > Sorry for the delayed reply. > > I will be starting with a new job from jan 2008 as mentioned to you > > before and as end of decemeber is the last day with my current > > client i was bit busy. > > > > I am finding 360 days very satisfactory and is able to explain > > events. > > However the methodology and mathematical researches done by shri > > Chandrahari can be used for further researches or enhanced if any > > corrections are needed. > > > > Thank you for your kind words. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > I have already said that I respect Chandra Hari for his > knowledge. > > He > > > has advanced a theory which is interesting and worth study. Being > > an old > > > person, I do not find the time to experiment with his Ayanamsha, > > but the > > > younger generation could certainly experiment with and find out > > their > > > own truth. > > > > > > I know that you do not write in vain. Do keep the inquiring > spirit > > alive. > > > > > > take care, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita related > > > > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a > > scientific bent > > > > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same reason i had > > > > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His Moola/Mooladhara > > theories > > > > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > > > > > > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the > > past.However > > > > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 savana > > days > > > > as well with success. > > > > > > > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there can be > > other > > > > elements which may be having further scope for perfection.In > > that case > > > > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste rather will > > become > > > > reference points for future researchers. > > > > > > > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars like > > > > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is your > > generosity > > > > and i know my limitations.It is only because your blessings i > am > > able > > > > to understand a few shlokas. > > > > > > > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not supposed to > > beleive > > > > something ,just because it was told by some one else or is > > mentioned > > > > in some text - but through our own experiments and > > realization.Thus i > > > > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha through an > open > > > > approach with justice to conscience. > > > > > > > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times and as > > every > > > > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them is only > > the way > > > > out. > > > > > > > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I > > understand that > > > > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give everyone the > > > > required maturity. > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way connected with > > Shreenadh. > > > > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he is the > > originator > > > > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a knowledgeable > > > > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am sure there > > some > > > > > misunderstanding here. > > > > > > > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable > opinion > > of > > > > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are offensive > > while putting > > > > > across their views. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of cheapness - > > Srinadha is > > > > > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > > > > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom i > > already warned > > > > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. he > should > > be > > > > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt understand > > native > > > > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse any > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in groups > > they get > > > > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met him, > > Rup Sir > > > > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind and > > level of > > > > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his > > influence,Though > > > > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur life, u > > cant do > > > > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence also, > > coz > > > > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things > > systematically. > > > > > > > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he reacts > > and told > > > > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low > > poisonous mind > > > > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what sanskaars he > > has, i > > > > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's cheapness. > > He called > > > > > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi hai ... " . > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari ayanamsha, > > he is a > > > > > > well > > > > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it may not > be > > such a > > > > > > good > > > > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want to use > > Chandra > > > > > > Hari > > > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to > popularize > > one > > > > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz those > > who are > > > > > > behind > > > > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their motives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on > Varahmihira's > > Surya > > > > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error in it's > > Solar > > > > > > Year > > > > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 minutes > > error, so, > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya > sidhanta > > is first > > > > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's name, > their > > pain is. > > > > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand so > > bringing all > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 A warning is always friendly ... if u didnt do something bad, u didnt hear unpleasant .. it is as simple as that, somewhere u touched the limit so consequences are set to touch the limit, but will not go beyond the limit .. why bother so much.... cross the limit and consequences will also cross. .... Mahakaal's wishes, You will know it in due time, not far off !! change or get changed - Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Brother > > There is a limit for everything. > If you are not changing your attitude i have to stop writing in this > forum.I am here because of some individuals whom i respect and have > love for. > > You are finding pleasure through threatening and blackmailing.This > is not at all a quality deserved in human beings forget about > astrologers. > > You have to understand that it is not your threats that bring out > results but the will of Lord.I have mentioned to you in the past as > well that i totally leave everything at the feet of Lord Sankara and > my Gurus.HE will take care and act as necessary. > > Never try your dirty/cheap tricks at me and stop playing GOD.As far > as Jyotish is concerned i will write and express my views with love > and devotion towards Lord and my Gurus. > > Every threat that you direct at common souls who are here in this > world to discharge their karmas is a threat to Maha Kaala who is > none other than Lord Shiva. > > I will never curse you as you are doing with me continously.Please > don't accumulate bad karmas. > > May GOD bless you. > > > Regds > Pradeep > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > feb, march, april.. count few months this way, change ur heart > and > > mind, not always u will get the advice. > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > Sorry for the delayed reply. > > > I will be starting with a new job from jan 2008 as mentioned to > you > > > before and as end of decemeber is the last day with my current > > > client i was bit busy. > > > > > > I am finding 360 days very satisfactory and is able to explain > > > events. > > > However the methodology and mathematical researches done by shri > > > Chandrahari can be used for further researches or enhanced if > any > > > corrections are needed. > > > > > > Thank you for your kind words. > > > > > > Respect > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > I have already said that I respect Chandra Hari for his > > knowledge. > > > He > > > > has advanced a theory which is interesting and worth study. > Being > > > an old > > > > person, I do not find the time to experiment with his > Ayanamsha, > > > but the > > > > younger generation could certainly experiment with and find > out > > > their > > > > own truth. > > > > > > > > I know that you do not write in vain. Do keep the inquiring > > spirit > > > alive. > > > > > > > > take care, > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita > related > > > > > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a > > > scientific bent > > > > > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same reason i > had > > > > > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His Moola/Mooladhara > > > theories > > > > > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > > > > > > > > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the > > > past.However > > > > > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 > savana > > > days > > > > > as well with success. > > > > > > > > > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there can > be > > > other > > > > > elements which may be having further scope for perfection.In > > > that case > > > > > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste rather > will > > > become > > > > > reference points for future researchers. > > > > > > > > > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars like > > > > > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is your > > > generosity > > > > > and i know my limitations.It is only because your blessings > i > > am > > > able > > > > > to understand a few shlokas. > > > > > > > > > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not supposed > to > > > beleive > > > > > something ,just because it was told by some one else or is > > > mentioned > > > > > in some text - but through our own experiments and > > > realization.Thus i > > > > > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha through an > > open > > > > > approach with justice to conscience. > > > > > > > > > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times and as > > > every > > > > > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them is > only > > > the way > > > > > out. > > > > > > > > > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I > > > understand that > > > > > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give everyone > the > > > > > required maturity. > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way connected > with > > > Shreenadh. > > > > > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he is > the > > > originator > > > > > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a > knowledgeable > > > > > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am sure > there > > > some > > > > > > misunderstanding here. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable > > opinion > > > of > > > > > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are offensive > > > while putting > > > > > > across their views. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of cheapness - > > > > Srinadha is > > > > > > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom i > > > already warned > > > > > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. he > > should > > > be > > > > > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt understand > > > native > > > > > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse any > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in > groups > > > they get > > > > > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met > him, > > > Rup Sir > > > > > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind and > > > level of > > > > > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his > > > influence,Though > > > > > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur life, > u > > > cant do > > > > > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence > also, > > > coz > > > > > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things > > > systematically. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he > reacts > > > and told > > > > > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low > > > poisonous mind > > > > > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what sanskaars > he > > > has, i > > > > > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's > cheapness. > > > He called > > > > > > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi > hai ... " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari > ayanamsha, > > > he is a > > > > > > > well > > > > > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it may > not > > be > > > such a > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want to > use > > > Chandra > > > > > > > Hari > > > > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to > > popularize > > > one > > > > > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz > those > > > who are > > > > > > > behind > > > > > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their motives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on > > Varahmihira's > > > Surya > > > > > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error in > it's > > > Solar > > > > > > > Year > > > > > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 minutes > > > error, so, > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya > > sidhanta > > > is first > > > > > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's name, > > their > > > pain is. > > > > > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand so > > > bringing all > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dosto, I didnt see ur earlier mails, so I just replied on the topics mentioned. I think I should withdraw my earlier mail :-) Best regards, Saaji Bhaskaran Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > A warning is always friendly ... > > if u didnt do something bad, u didnt hear unpleasant .. it is as > simple as that, somewhere u touched the limit so consequences are set > to touch the limit, but will not go beyond the limit .. why bother so > much.... cross the limit and consequences will also cross. > > ... Mahakaal's wishes, You will know it in due time, not far off !! > > change or get changed - Lalit. > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Brother > > > > There is a limit for everything. > > If you are not changing your attitude i have to stop writing in > this > > forum.I am here because of some individuals whom i respect and have > > love for. > > > > You are finding pleasure through threatening and blackmailing.This > > is not at all a quality deserved in human beings forget about > > astrologers. > > > > You have to understand that it is not your threats that bring out > > results but the will of Lord.I have mentioned to you in the past as > > well that i totally leave everything at the feet of Lord Sankara > and > > my Gurus.HE will take care and act as necessary. > > > > Never try your dirty/cheap tricks at me and stop playing GOD.As far > > as Jyotish is concerned i will write and express my views with love > > and devotion towards Lord and my Gurus. > > > > Every threat that you direct at common souls who are here in this > > world to discharge their karmas is a threat to Maha Kaala who is > > none other than Lord Shiva. > > > > I will never curse you as you are doing with me continously.Please > > don't accumulate bad karmas. > > > > May GOD bless you. > > > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > feb, march, april.. count few months this way, change ur heart > > and > > > mind, not always u will get the advice. > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > --- In > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > Sorry for the delayed reply. > > > > I will be starting with a new job from jan 2008 as mentioned to > > you > > > > before and as end of decemeber is the last day with my current > > > > client i was bit busy. > > > > > > > > I am finding 360 days very satisfactory and is able to explain > > > > events. > > > > However the methodology and mathematical researches done by > shri > > > > Chandrahari can be used for further researches or enhanced if > > any > > > > corrections are needed. > > > > > > > > Thank you for your kind words. > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > > > I have already said that I respect Chandra Hari for his > > > knowledge. > > > > He > > > > > has advanced a theory which is interesting and worth study. > > Being > > > > an old > > > > > person, I do not find the time to experiment with his > > Ayanamsha, > > > > but the > > > > > younger generation could certainly experiment with and find > > out > > > > their > > > > > own truth. > > > > > > > > > > I know that you do not write in vain. Do keep the inquiring > > > spirit > > > > alive. > > > > > > > > > > take care, > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita > > related > > > > > > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a > > > > scientific bent > > > > > > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same reason i > > had > > > > > > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His > Moola/Mooladhara > > > > theories > > > > > > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the > > > > past.However > > > > > > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 > > savana > > > > days > > > > > > as well with success. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there can > > be > > > > other > > > > > > elements which may be having further scope for > perfection.In > > > > that case > > > > > > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste rather > > will > > > > become > > > > > > reference points for future researchers. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars > like > > > > > > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is your > > > > generosity > > > > > > and i know my limitations.It is only because your blessings > > i > > > am > > > > able > > > > > > to understand a few shlokas. > > > > > > > > > > > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not supposed > > to > > > > beleive > > > > > > something ,just because it was told by some one else or is > > > > mentioned > > > > > > in some text - but through our own experiments and > > > > realization.Thus i > > > > > > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha through > an > > > open > > > > > > approach with justice to conscience. > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times and > as > > > > every > > > > > > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them is > > only > > > > the way > > > > > > out. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I > > > > understand that > > > > > > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give everyone > > the > > > > > > required maturity. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way connected > > with > > > > Shreenadh. > > > > > > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he is > > the > > > > originator > > > > > > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a > > knowledgeable > > > > > > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am sure > > there > > > > some > > > > > > > misunderstanding here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable > > > opinion > > > > of > > > > > > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are offensive > > > > while putting > > > > > > > across their views. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of > cheapness - > > > > > > Srinadha is > > > > > > > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom i > > > > already warned > > > > > > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. he > > > should > > > > be > > > > > > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt > understand > > > > native > > > > > > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse > any > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in > > groups > > > > they get > > > > > > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met > > him, > > > > Rup Sir > > > > > > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind and > > > > level of > > > > > > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his > > > > influence,Though > > > > > > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur life, > > u > > > > cant do > > > > > > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence > > also, > > > > coz > > > > > > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things > > > > systematically. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he > > reacts > > > > and told > > > > > > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low > > > > poisonous mind > > > > > > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what > sanskaars > > he > > > > has, i > > > > > > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's > > cheapness. > > > > He called > > > > > > > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi > > hai ... " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari > > ayanamsha, > > > > he is a > > > > > > > > well > > > > > > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it may > > not > > > be > > > > such a > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want to > > use > > > > Chandra > > > > > > > > Hari > > > > > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to > > > popularize > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz > > those > > > > who are > > > > > > > > behind > > > > > > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their > motives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on > > > Varahmihira's > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error in > > it's > > > > Solar > > > > > > > > Year > > > > > > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 > minutes > > > > error, so, > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya > > > sidhanta > > > > is first > > > > > > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's name, > > > their > > > > pain is. > > > > > > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand so > > > > bringing all > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Hello So that means you have no plans to change?:-)) -only interested in changing others. M.K.Gandhi said you should become the change that you wish to see in others.Why not give a try? Dear Brother - Fear is the very reason for rebirth.Even hunger is because of fear.The biggest and greatest among all fears is Marana Bhaya or fear from death. If Mahakala wishes we can overcome this fear as well.Because HE alone is the Yogi who has transcended time. Before pointing fingers at others - try to see your inner self.We are what we really are and not the image that we project.Hope you understand.I am not interested inanother debate with you. Happy New year Pradeep sns Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > A warning is always friendly ... > > if u didnt do something bad, u didnt hear unpleasant .. it is as > simple as that, somewhere u touched the limit so consequences are set > to touch the limit, but will not go beyond the limit .. why bother so > much.... cross the limit and consequences will also cross. > > ... Mahakaal's wishes, You will know it in due time, not far off !! > > change or get changed - Lalit. > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Brother > > > > There is a limit for everything. > > If you are not changing your attitude i have to stop writing in > this > > forum.I am here because of some individuals whom i respect and have > > love for. > > > > You are finding pleasure through threatening and blackmailing.This > > is not at all a quality deserved in human beings forget about > > astrologers. > > > > You have to understand that it is not your threats that bring out > > results but the will of Lord.I have mentioned to you in the past as > > well that i totally leave everything at the feet of Lord Sankara > and > > my Gurus.HE will take care and act as necessary. > > > > Never try your dirty/cheap tricks at me and stop playing GOD.As far > > as Jyotish is concerned i will write and express my views with love > > and devotion towards Lord and my Gurus. > > > > Every threat that you direct at common souls who are here in this > > world to discharge their karmas is a threat to Maha Kaala who is > > none other than Lord Shiva. > > > > I will never curse you as you are doing with me continously.Please > > don't accumulate bad karmas. > > > > May GOD bless you. > > > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > feb, march, april.. count few months this way, change ur heart > > and > > > mind, not always u will get the advice. > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > --- In > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > Sorry for the delayed reply. > > > > I will be starting with a new job from jan 2008 as mentioned to > > you > > > > before and as end of decemeber is the last day with my current > > > > client i was bit busy. > > > > > > > > I am finding 360 days very satisfactory and is able to explain > > > > events. > > > > However the methodology and mathematical researches done by > shri > > > > Chandrahari can be used for further researches or enhanced if > > any > > > > corrections are needed. > > > > > > > > Thank you for your kind words. > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > > > I have already said that I respect Chandra Hari for his > > > knowledge. > > > > He > > > > > has advanced a theory which is interesting and worth study. > > Being > > > > an old > > > > > person, I do not find the time to experiment with his > > Ayanamsha, > > > > but the > > > > > younger generation could certainly experiment with and find > > out > > > > their > > > > > own truth. > > > > > > > > > > I know that you do not write in vain. Do keep the inquiring > > > spirit > > > > alive. > > > > > > > > > > take care, > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita > > related > > > > > > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a > > > > scientific bent > > > > > > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same reason i > > had > > > > > > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His > Moola/Mooladhara > > > > theories > > > > > > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the > > > > past.However > > > > > > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 > > savana > > > > days > > > > > > as well with success. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there can > > be > > > > other > > > > > > elements which may be having further scope for > perfection.In > > > > that case > > > > > > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste rather > > will > > > > become > > > > > > reference points for future researchers. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars > like > > > > > > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is your > > > > generosity > > > > > > and i know my limitations.It is only because your blessings > > i > > > am > > > > able > > > > > > to understand a few shlokas. > > > > > > > > > > > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not supposed > > to > > > > beleive > > > > > > something ,just because it was told by some one else or is > > > > mentioned > > > > > > in some text - but through our own experiments and > > > > realization.Thus i > > > > > > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha through > an > > > open > > > > > > approach with justice to conscience. > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times and > as > > > > every > > > > > > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them is > > only > > > > the way > > > > > > out. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I > > > > understand that > > > > > > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give everyone > > the > > > > > > required maturity. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way connected > > with > > > > Shreenadh. > > > > > > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he is > > the > > > > originator > > > > > > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a > > knowledgeable > > > > > > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am sure > > there > > > > some > > > > > > > misunderstanding here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable > > > opinion > > > > of > > > > > > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are offensive > > > > while putting > > > > > > > across their views. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of > cheapness - > > > > > > Srinadha is > > > > > > > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom i > > > > already warned > > > > > > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. he > > > should > > > > be > > > > > > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt > understand > > > > native > > > > > > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse > any > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in > > groups > > > > they get > > > > > > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met > > him, > > > > Rup Sir > > > > > > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind and > > > > level of > > > > > > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his > > > > influence,Though > > > > > > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur life, > > u > > > > cant do > > > > > > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence > > also, > > > > coz > > > > > > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things > > > > systematically. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he > > reacts > > > > and told > > > > > > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low > > > > poisonous mind > > > > > > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what > sanskaars > > he > > > > has, i > > > > > > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's > > cheapness. > > > > He called > > > > > > > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi > > hai ... " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari > > ayanamsha, > > > > he is a > > > > > > > > well > > > > > > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it may > > not > > > be > > > > such a > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want to > > use > > > > Chandra > > > > > > > > Hari > > > > > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to > > > popularize > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz > > those > > > > who are > > > > > > > > behind > > > > > > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their > motives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on > > > Varahmihira's > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error in > > it's > > > > Solar > > > > > > > > Year > > > > > > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 > minutes > > > > error, so, > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya > > > sidhanta > > > > is first > > > > > > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's name, > > > their > > > > pain is. > > > > > > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand so > > > > bringing all > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 If u have no fear why this retrospection ? U people misused internet's power to mislead people in last 5 - 6 yrs, OK, with carefully chosen diplomatic language (kschhadm bhasha) u may have got good no of appreciators also ..., I dont care ! But i will enusre all what u thought and tried will topple, you all got just a first time hit .... Fear and Intellectuality - You can use only words, can only give descriptions, wherefrom u w'd get true active spiritual blessings, real power , real experience ... , have ever Shiva the Mahakaal visited u ? have u ever seen him ? Do u know his wish ? Your mahakaal is bound to care me !! like a sun ray removes dark, i can tear off all conspiracy, no one in the world can confuse me .., I m not a weak man who needs ur astro reradings or ur blessings for my kids.... Dont fear, I have not cursed u, If i had, there is no space left for people like u in the world... I already told u, go to amma amritanandamai, gotu to ur guru .. tell them I have said u this ... and see if u get any relief ??? Only ur misdeeds, misadventure is coming before u ... and will always. Solution is simple - leave ur conspiracies against this great nation's integrity and integral heritage ..... Dont mislead people. I already promised to Narsimha, to show the true active proven spirituality. Right !! ~Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Hello > > So that means you have no plans to change?:-)) -only interested in > changing others. > > M.K.Gandhi said you should become the change that you wish to see in > others.Why not give a try? > > Dear Brother - Fear is the very reason for rebirth.Even hunger is > because of fear.The biggest and greatest among all fears is Marana > Bhaya or fear from death. > > If Mahakala wishes we can overcome this fear as well.Because HE > alone is the Yogi who has transcended time. > > Before pointing fingers at others - try to see your inner self.We > are what we really are and not the image that we project.Hope you > understand.I am not interested inanother debate with you. > > Happy New year > Pradeep > > > > > > sns Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > A warning is always friendly ... > > > > if u didnt do something bad, u didnt hear unpleasant .. it is as > > simple as that, somewhere u touched the limit so consequences are > set > > to touch the limit, but will not go beyond the limit .. why bother > so > > much.... cross the limit and consequences will also cross. > > > > ... Mahakaal's wishes, You will know it in due time, not far off !! > > > > change or get changed - Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Brother > > > > > > There is a limit for everything. > > > If you are not changing your attitude i have to stop writing in > > this > > > forum.I am here because of some individuals whom i respect and > have > > > love for. > > > > > > You are finding pleasure through threatening and > blackmailing.This > > > is not at all a quality deserved in human beings forget about > > > astrologers. > > > > > > You have to understand that it is not your threats that bring > out > > > results but the will of Lord.I have mentioned to you in the past > as > > > well that i totally leave everything at the feet of Lord Sankara > > and > > > my Gurus.HE will take care and act as necessary. > > > > > > Never try your dirty/cheap tricks at me and stop playing GOD.As > far > > > as Jyotish is concerned i will write and express my views with > love > > > and devotion towards Lord and my Gurus. > > > > > > Every threat that you direct at common souls who are here in > this > > > world to discharge their karmas is a threat to Maha Kaala who is > > > none other than Lord Shiva. > > > > > > I will never curse you as you are doing with me > continously.Please > > > don't accumulate bad karmas. > > > > > > May GOD bless you. > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > feb, march, april.. count few months this way, change ur > heart > > > and > > > > mind, not always u will get the advice. > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the delayed reply. > > > > > I will be starting with a new job from jan 2008 as mentioned > to > > > you > > > > > before and as end of decemeber is the last day with my > current > > > > > client i was bit busy. > > > > > > > > > > I am finding 360 days very satisfactory and is able to > explain > > > > > events. > > > > > However the methodology and mathematical researches done by > > shri > > > > > Chandrahari can be used for further researches or enhanced > if > > > any > > > > > corrections are needed. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your kind words. > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , > Chandrashekhar > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already said that I respect Chandra Hari for his > > > > knowledge. > > > > > He > > > > > > has advanced a theory which is interesting and worth > study. > > > Being > > > > > an old > > > > > > person, I do not find the time to experiment with his > > > Ayanamsha, > > > > > but the > > > > > > younger generation could certainly experiment with and > find > > > out > > > > > their > > > > > > own truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that you do not write in vain. Do keep the > inquiring > > > > spirit > > > > > alive. > > > > > > > > > > > > take care, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita > > > related > > > > > > > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a > > > > > scientific bent > > > > > > > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same > reason i > > > had > > > > > > > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His > > Moola/Mooladhara > > > > > theories > > > > > > > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the > > > > > past.However > > > > > > > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 > > > savana > > > > > days > > > > > > > as well with success. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there > can > > > be > > > > > other > > > > > > > elements which may be having further scope for > > perfection.In > > > > > that case > > > > > > > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste > rather > > > will > > > > > become > > > > > > > reference points for future researchers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars > > like > > > > > > > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is > your > > > > > generosity > > > > > > > and i know my limitations.It is only because your > blessings > > > i > > > > am > > > > > able > > > > > > > to understand a few shlokas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not > supposed > > > to > > > > > beleive > > > > > > > something ,just because it was told by some one else or > is > > > > > mentioned > > > > > > > in some text - but through our own experiments and > > > > > realization.Thus i > > > > > > > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha > through > > an > > > > open > > > > > > > approach with justice to conscience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times > and > > as > > > > > every > > > > > > > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them > is > > > only > > > > > the way > > > > > > > out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I > > > > > understand that > > > > > > > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give > everyone > > > the > > > > > > > required maturity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way > connected > > > with > > > > > Shreenadh. > > > > > > > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he > is > > > the > > > > > originator > > > > > > > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a > > > knowledgeable > > > > > > > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am > sure > > > there > > > > > some > > > > > > > > misunderstanding here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable > > > > opinion > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are > offensive > > > > > while putting > > > > > > > > across their views. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of > > cheapness - > > > > > > > > Srinadha is > > > > > > > > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom > i > > > > > already warned > > > > > > > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. > he > > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt > > understand > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse > > any > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in > > > groups > > > > > they get > > > > > > > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met > > > him, > > > > > Rup Sir > > > > > > > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind > and > > > > > level of > > > > > > > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his > > > > > influence,Though > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur > life, > > > u > > > > > cant do > > > > > > > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence > > > also, > > > > > coz > > > > > > > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things > > > > > systematically. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he > > > reacts > > > > > and told > > > > > > > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low > > > > > poisonous mind > > > > > > > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what > > sanskaars > > > he > > > > > has, i > > > > > > > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's > > > cheapness. > > > > > He called > > > > > > > > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi > > > hai ... " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing% 40>, > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari > > > ayanamsha, > > > > > he is a > > > > > > > > > well > > > > > > > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it > may > > > not > > > > be > > > > > such a > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want > to > > > use > > > > > Chandra > > > > > > > > > Hari > > > > > > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to > > > > popularize > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz > > > those > > > > > who are > > > > > > > > > behind > > > > > > > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their > > motives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on > > > > Varahmihira's > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error > in > > > it's > > > > > Solar > > > > > > > > > Year > > > > > > > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 > > minutes > > > > > error, so, > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya > > > > sidhanta > > > > > is first > > > > > > > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's > name, > > > > their > > > > > pain is. > > > > > > > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand > so > > > > > bringing all > > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Hello You please read my mails carefully before you write back. I have fear and thus i am a common man.Thus i have said,if HIS wish is there we can also overcome this fear. I am nothing in front of HIM and i know nothing. I used to care for appreciators.I used to care for acceptance.I had tried to convince.Yes i accept this.This was immaturity and inexperience. However i have understood that,i need not convince anyone,i have to just do justice to my conscience as far as astrology is concerned.Those who feel worthy will agree with my views.I respect others too.I have to just stick to the fundamental principles.No matter however hard one tries to threaten, i will keep sticking to those.I am prepared to change,only if pramanas are given. I have never tried nor will try to mislead people as you have said.I have only stood by what the texts have told.I have never created my own theories.I have never given adhoc answers,and explanations which keep on changing.I have always said no when i do not know. Thus irrespective of whether it is my views or others views - Truth alone will prevail.TIME will prove. Regarding scope for improvement and mistakes, if at any point in life ,if anyone thinks, he has no scope for improvement,then he is in maya. Thus i always have a scope for improvement.If you think you have realized - i cannot comment as it is a personal experience,which you alone will know. I am a common soul. Pradeep Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > If u have no fear why this retrospection ? > > U people misused internet's power to mislead people in last 5 - 6 > yrs, OK, with carefully chosen diplomatic language (kschhadm bhasha) > u may have got good no of appreciators also ..., I dont care ! > > But i will enusre all what u thought and tried will topple, you all > got just a first time hit .... > > Fear and Intellectuality - You can use only words, can only give > descriptions, wherefrom u w'd get true active spiritual blessings, > real power , real experience ... , have ever Shiva the Mahakaal > visited u ? have u ever seen him ? Do u know his wish ? > > Your mahakaal is bound to care me !! > > like a sun ray removes dark, i can tear off all conspiracy, no one in > the world can confuse me .., I m not a weak man who needs ur astro > reradings or ur blessings for my kids.... > > Dont fear, I have not cursed u, If i had, there is no space left for > people like u in the world... > > I already told u, go to amma amritanandamai, gotu to ur guru .. tell > them I have said u this ... and see if u get any relief ??? > > Only ur misdeeds, misadventure is coming before u ... and will always. > > Solution is simple - leave ur conspiracies against this great > nation's integrity and integral heritage ..... Dont mislead people. > > I already promised to Narsimha, to show the true active proven > spirituality. > > Right !! > > ~Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > So that means you have no plans to change?:-)) -only interested in > > changing others. > > > > M.K.Gandhi said you should become the change that you wish to see > in > > others.Why not give a try? > > > > Dear Brother - Fear is the very reason for rebirth.Even hunger is > > because of fear.The biggest and greatest among all fears is Marana > > Bhaya or fear from death. > > > > If Mahakala wishes we can overcome this fear as well.Because HE > > alone is the Yogi who has transcended time. > > > > Before pointing fingers at others - try to see your inner self.We > > are what we really are and not the image that we project.Hope you > > understand.I am not interested inanother debate with you. > > > > Happy New year > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > sns Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > A warning is always friendly ... > > > > > > if u didnt do something bad, u didnt hear unpleasant .. it is as > > > simple as that, somewhere u touched the limit so consequences are > > set > > > to touch the limit, but will not go beyond the limit .. why > bother > > so > > > much.... cross the limit and consequences will also cross. > > > > > > ... Mahakaal's wishes, You will know it in due time, not far > off !! > > > > > > change or get changed - Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Brother > > > > > > > > There is a limit for everything. > > > > If you are not changing your attitude i have to stop writing in > > > this > > > > forum.I am here because of some individuals whom i respect and > > have > > > > love for. > > > > > > > > You are finding pleasure through threatening and > > blackmailing.This > > > > is not at all a quality deserved in human beings forget about > > > > astrologers. > > > > > > > > You have to understand that it is not your threats that bring > > out > > > > results but the will of Lord.I have mentioned to you in the > past > > as > > > > well that i totally leave everything at the feet of Lord > Sankara > > > and > > > > my Gurus.HE will take care and act as necessary. > > > > > > > > Never try your dirty/cheap tricks at me and stop playing GOD.As > > far > > > > as Jyotish is concerned i will write and express my views with > > love > > > > and devotion towards Lord and my Gurus. > > > > > > > > Every threat that you direct at common souls who are here in > > this > > > > world to discharge their karmas is a threat to Maha Kaala who > is > > > > none other than Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > I will never curse you as you are doing with me > > continously.Please > > > > don't accumulate bad karmas. > > > > > > > > May GOD bless you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > feb, march, april.. count few months this way, change ur > > heart > > > > and > > > > > mind, not always u will get the advice. > > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the delayed reply. > > > > > > I will be starting with a new job from jan 2008 as > mentioned > > to > > > > you > > > > > > before and as end of decemeber is the last day with my > > current > > > > > > client i was bit busy. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am finding 360 days very satisfactory and is able to > > explain > > > > > > events. > > > > > > However the methodology and mathematical researches done by > > > shri > > > > > > Chandrahari can be used for further researches or enhanced > > if > > > > any > > > > > > corrections are needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your kind words. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already said that I respect Chandra Hari for his > > > > > knowledge. > > > > > > He > > > > > > > has advanced a theory which is interesting and worth > > study. > > > > Being > > > > > > an old > > > > > > > person, I do not find the time to experiment with his > > > > Ayanamsha, > > > > > > but the > > > > > > > younger generation could certainly experiment with and > > find > > > > out > > > > > > their > > > > > > > own truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that you do not write in vain. Do keep the > > inquiring > > > > > spirit > > > > > > alive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take care, > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita > > > > related > > > > > > > > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a > > > > > > scientific bent > > > > > > > > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same > > reason i > > > > had > > > > > > > > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His > > > Moola/Mooladhara > > > > > > theories > > > > > > > > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the > > > > > > past.However > > > > > > > > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the > 360 > > > > savana > > > > > > days > > > > > > > > as well with success. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there > > can > > > > be > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > elements which may be having further scope for > > > perfection.In > > > > > > that case > > > > > > > > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste > > rather > > > > will > > > > > > become > > > > > > > > reference points for future researchers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned > scholars > > > like > > > > > > > > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is > > your > > > > > > generosity > > > > > > > > and i know my limitations.It is only because your > > blessings > > > > i > > > > > am > > > > > > able > > > > > > > > to understand a few shlokas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not > > supposed > > > > to > > > > > > beleive > > > > > > > > something ,just because it was told by some one else or > > is > > > > > > mentioned > > > > > > > > in some text - but through our own experiments and > > > > > > realization.Thus i > > > > > > > > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha > > through > > > an > > > > > open > > > > > > > > approach with justice to conscience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times > > and > > > as > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them > > is > > > > only > > > > > > the way > > > > > > > > out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I > > > > > > understand that > > > > > > > > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give > > everyone > > > > the > > > > > > > > required maturity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way > > connected > > > > with > > > > > > Shreenadh. > > > > > > > > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he > > is > > > > the > > > > > > originator > > > > > > > > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a > > > > knowledgeable > > > > > > > > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am > > sure > > > > there > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > misunderstanding here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a > favorable > > > > > opinion > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are > > offensive > > > > > > while putting > > > > > > > > > across their views. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of > > > cheapness - > > > > > > > > > > Srinadha is > > > > > > > > > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom > > i > > > > > > already warned > > > > > > > > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. > > he > > > > > should > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt > > > understand > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant > infer/analyse > > > any > > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in > > > > groups > > > > > > they get > > > > > > > > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have > met > > > > him, > > > > > > Rup Sir > > > > > > > > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind > > and > > > > > > level of > > > > > > > > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his > > > > > > influence,Though > > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur > > life, > > > > u > > > > > > cant do > > > > > > > > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his > influence > > > > also, > > > > > > coz > > > > > > > > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial > things > > > > > > systematically. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way > he > > > > reacts > > > > > > and told > > > > > > > > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a > low > > > > > > poisonous mind > > > > > > > > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what > > > sanskaars > > > > he > > > > > > has, i > > > > > > > > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting > before > > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's > > > > cheapness. > > > > > > He called > > > > > > > > > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi > > > > hai ... " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing% > 40>, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari > > > > ayanamsha, > > > > > > he is a > > > > > > > > > > well > > > > > > > > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it > > may > > > > not > > > > > be > > > > > > such a > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want > > to > > > > use > > > > > > Chandra > > > > > > > > > > Hari > > > > > > > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to > > > > > popularize > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all > coz > > > > those > > > > > > who are > > > > > > > > > > behind > > > > > > > > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their > > > motives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on > > > > > Varahmihira's > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error > > in > > > > it's > > > > > > Solar > > > > > > > > > > Year > > > > > > > > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 > > > minutes > > > > > > error, so, > > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya > > > > > sidhanta > > > > > > is first > > > > > > > > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's > > name, > > > > > their > > > > > > pain is. > > > > > > > > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand > > so > > > > > > bringing all > > > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 no one is uncommon, one's work makes a him uncommon , I must say u are an intelligent person, ur writing is creative but direction ... was negative. Pls. understand there is one god and all the souls are derived from the same god, already there is so many problems around us, so much hatred, let's not do anything that divides people more, let's not split the divine love in parts. u can see terrorism is taking it's worse shape, let's not do anything that creates more seperation. let's not do anything that divides people more, let's not split the divine love in parts. if we can remain a good human being with healthy heart and healthy mind, perhapse will be biggest contribution to society, let's love each other, let's dissolve the seperatism in love. i came to know about my previous and current birth, my karmas, my sufferings, my duties, i know and understand how you, me and we all eveolve in series of births. remain assured, unless u willingly do something wrong, a wrong thing that can disrupt integrity of people and culture, there will be nothing bad in ur life, I approached the God while writing few last posts to u and said what should have been said. I didnt understand why u have not asked chandrahari about that precision error in calculation of surya siddhanta, has he rectified that, if not, stop promoting his ayanamsha till he rectifies the mistakes. ~Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Hello > > You please read my mails carefully before you write back. > > I have fear and thus i am a common man.Thus i have said,if HIS wish is > there we can also overcome this fear. > I am nothing in front of HIM and i know nothing. > > I used to care for appreciators.I used to care for acceptance.I had > tried to convince.Yes i accept this.This was immaturity and inexperience. > > However i have understood that,i need not convince anyone,i have to > just do justice to my conscience as far as astrology is > concerned.Those who feel worthy will agree with my views.I respect > others too.I have to just stick to the fundamental principles.No > matter however hard one tries to threaten, i will keep sticking to > those.I am prepared to change,only if pramanas are given. > > I have never tried nor will try to mislead people as you have said.I > have only stood by what the texts have told.I have never created my > own theories.I have never given adhoc answers,and explanations which > keep on changing.I have always said no when i do not know. > > Thus irrespective of whether it is my views or others views - Truth > alone will prevail.TIME will prove. > > Regarding scope for improvement and mistakes, if at any point in life > ,if anyone thinks, he has no scope for improvement,then he is in maya. > > Thus i always have a scope for improvement.If you think you have > realized - i cannot comment as it is a personal experience,which you > alone will know. > > I am a common soul. > > Pradeep > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > wrote: > > > > If u have no fear why this retrospection ? > > > > U people misused internet's power to mislead people in last 5 - 6 > > yrs, OK, with carefully chosen diplomatic language (kschhadm bhasha) > > u may have got good no of appreciators also ..., I dont care ! > > > > But i will enusre all what u thought and tried will topple, you all > > got just a first time hit .... > > > > Fear and Intellectuality - You can use only words, can only give > > descriptions, wherefrom u w'd get true active spiritual blessings, > > real power , real experience ... , have ever Shiva the Mahakaal > > visited u ? have u ever seen him ? Do u know his wish ? > > > > Your mahakaal is bound to care me !! > > > > like a sun ray removes dark, i can tear off all conspiracy, no one in > > the world can confuse me .., I m not a weak man who needs ur astro > > reradings or ur blessings for my kids.... > > > > Dont fear, I have not cursed u, If i had, there is no space left for > > people like u in the world... > > > > I already told u, go to amma amritanandamai, gotu to ur guru .. tell > > them I have said u this ... and see if u get any relief ??? > > > > Only ur misdeeds, misadventure is coming before u ... and will always. > > > > Solution is simple - leave ur conspiracies against this great > > nation's integrity and integral heritage ..... Dont mislead people. > > > > I already promised to Narsimha, to show the true active proven > > spirituality. > > > > Right !! > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > So that means you have no plans to change?:-)) -only interested in > > > changing others. > > > > > > M.K.Gandhi said you should become the change that you wish to see > > in > > > others.Why not give a try? > > > > > > Dear Brother - Fear is the very reason for rebirth.Even hunger is > > > because of fear.The biggest and greatest among all fears is Marana > > > Bhaya or fear from death. > > > > > > If Mahakala wishes we can overcome this fear as well.Because HE > > > alone is the Yogi who has transcended time. > > > > > > Before pointing fingers at others - try to see your inner self.We > > > are what we really are and not the image that we project.Hope you > > > understand.I am not interested inanother debate with you. > > > > > > Happy New year > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sns Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > A warning is always friendly ... > > > > > > > > if u didnt do something bad, u didnt hear unpleasant .. it is as > > > > simple as that, somewhere u touched the limit so consequences are > > > set > > > > to touch the limit, but will not go beyond the limit .. why > > bother > > > so > > > > much.... cross the limit and consequences will also cross. > > > > > > > > ... Mahakaal's wishes, You will know it in due time, not far > > off !! > > > > > > > > change or get changed - Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Brother > > > > > > > > > > There is a limit for everything. > > > > > If you are not changing your attitude i have to stop writing in > > > > this > > > > > forum.I am here because of some individuals whom i respect and > > > have > > > > > love for. > > > > > > > > > > You are finding pleasure through threatening and > > > blackmailing.This > > > > > is not at all a quality deserved in human beings forget about > > > > > astrologers. > > > > > > > > > > You have to understand that it is not your threats that bring > > > out > > > > > results but the will of Lord.I have mentioned to you in the > > past > > > as > > > > > well that i totally leave everything at the feet of Lord > > Sankara > > > > and > > > > > my Gurus.HE will take care and act as necessary. > > > > > > > > > > Never try your dirty/cheap tricks at me and stop playing GOD.As > > > far > > > > > as Jyotish is concerned i will write and express my views with > > > love > > > > > and devotion towards Lord and my Gurus. > > > > > > > > > > Every threat that you direct at common souls who are here in > > > this > > > > > world to discharge their karmas is a threat to Maha Kaala who > > is > > > > > none other than Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > I will never curse you as you are doing with me > > > continously.Please > > > > > don't accumulate bad karmas. > > > > > > > > > > May GOD bless you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > feb, march, april.. count few months this way, change ur > > > heart > > > > > and > > > > > > mind, not always u will get the advice. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the delayed reply. > > > > > > > I will be starting with a new job from jan 2008 as > > mentioned > > > to > > > > > you > > > > > > > before and as end of decemeber is the last day with my > > > current > > > > > > > client i was bit busy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am finding 360 days very satisfactory and is able to > > > explain > > > > > > > events. > > > > > > > However the methodology and mathematical researches done by > > > > shri > > > > > > > Chandrahari can be used for further researches or enhanced > > > if > > > > > any > > > > > > > corrections are needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your kind words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already said that I respect Chandra Hari for his > > > > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > has advanced a theory which is interesting and worth > > > study. > > > > > Being > > > > > > > an old > > > > > > > > person, I do not find the time to experiment with his > > > > > Ayanamsha, > > > > > > > but the > > > > > > > > younger generation could certainly experiment with and > > > find > > > > > out > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > own truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that you do not write in vain. Do keep the > > > inquiring > > > > > > spirit > > > > > > > alive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take care, > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita > > > > > related > > > > > > > > > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a > > > > > > > scientific bent > > > > > > > > > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same > > > reason i > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His > > > > Moola/Mooladhara > > > > > > > theories > > > > > > > > > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the > > > > > > > past.However > > > > > > > > > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the > > 360 > > > > > savana > > > > > > > days > > > > > > > > > as well with success. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there > > > can > > > > > be > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > elements which may be having further scope for > > > > perfection.In > > > > > > > that case > > > > > > > > > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste > > > rather > > > > > will > > > > > > > become > > > > > > > > > reference points for future researchers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned > > scholars > > > > like > > > > > > > > > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is > > > your > > > > > > > generosity > > > > > > > > > and i know my limitations.It is only because your > > > blessings > > > > > i > > > > > > am > > > > > > > able > > > > > > > > > to understand a few shlokas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not > > > supposed > > > > > to > > > > > > > beleive > > > > > > > > > something ,just because it was told by some one else or > > > is > > > > > > > mentioned > > > > > > > > > in some text - but through our own experiments and > > > > > > > realization.Thus i > > > > > > > > > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha > > > through > > > > an > > > > > > open > > > > > > > > > approach with justice to conscience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times > > > and > > > > as > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them > > > is > > > > > only > > > > > > > the way > > > > > > > > > out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I > > > > > > > understand that > > > > > > > > > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give > > > everyone > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > required maturity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing% 40>, > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way > > > connected > > > > > with > > > > > > > Shreenadh. > > > > > > > > > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he > > > is > > > > > the > > > > > > > originator > > > > > > > > > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a > > > > > knowledgeable > > > > > > > > > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am > > > sure > > > > > there > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > misunderstanding here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a > > favorable > > > > > > opinion > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are > > > offensive > > > > > > > while putting > > > > > > > > > > across their views. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of > > > > cheapness - > > > > > > > > > > > > Srinadha is > > > > > > > > > > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom > > > i > > > > > > > already warned > > > > > > > > > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. > > > he > > > > > > should > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt > > > > understand > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant > > infer/analyse > > > > any > > > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in > > > > > groups > > > > > > > they get > > > > > > > > > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have > > met > > > > > him, > > > > > > > Rup Sir > > > > > > > > > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind > > > and > > > > > > > level of > > > > > > > > > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his > > > > > > > influence,Though > > > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur > > > life, > > > > > u > > > > > > > cant do > > > > > > > > > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his > > influence > > > > > also, > > > > > > > coz > > > > > > > > > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial > > things > > > > > > > systematically. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way > > he > > > > > reacts > > > > > > > and told > > > > > > > > > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a > > low > > > > > > > poisonous mind > > > > > > > > > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what > > > > sanskaars > > > > > he > > > > > > > has, i > > > > > > > > > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting > > before > > > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's > > > > > cheapness. > > > > > > > He called > > > > > > > > > > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi > > > > > hai ... " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing% > > 40>, > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari > > > > > ayanamsha, > > > > > > > he is a > > > > > > > > > > > well > > > > > > > > > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it > > > may > > > > > not > > > > > > be > > > > > > > such a > > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want > > > to > > > > > use > > > > > > > Chandra > > > > > > > > > > > Hari > > > > > > > > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to > > > > > > popularize > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all > > coz > > > > > those > > > > > > > who are > > > > > > > > > > > behind > > > > > > > > > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their > > > > motives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on > > > > > > Varahmihira's > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error > > > in > > > > > it's > > > > > > > Solar > > > > > > > > > > > Year > > > > > > > > > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 > > > > minutes > > > > > > > error, so, > > > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya > > > > > > sidhanta > > > > > > > is first > > > > > > > > > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's > > > name, > > > > > > their > > > > > > > pain is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand > > > so > > > > > > > bringing all > > > > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Dear Pradeep, I am glad you find 360 Savana days year definition bearing the test of application. There is no harm in finding out Chandra hari's ayanamsha for research purpose. I am however pained to learn from others on the list that he is these days more involved in Brahmin bashing and indulging in caste divides. If this is true, it is difficult to respect such a person. The knowledgeable do not indulge in such activities. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar ji Sorry for the delayed reply. I will be starting with a new job from jan 2008 as mentioned to you before and as end of decemeber is the last day with my current client i was bit busy. I am finding 360 days very satisfactory and is able to explain events. However the methodology and mathematical researches done by shri Chandrahari can be used for further researches or enhanced if any corrections are needed. Thank you for your kind words. Respect Pradeep Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > I have already said that I respect Chandra Hari for his knowledge. He > has advanced a theory which is interesting and worth study. Being an old > person, I do not find the time to experiment with his Ayanamsha, but the > younger generation could certainly experiment with and find out their > own truth. > > I know that you do not write in vain. Do keep the inquiring spirit alive. > > take care, > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita related > > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a scientific bent > > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same reason i had > > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His Moola/Mooladhara theories > > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the past.However > > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 savana days > > as well with success. > > > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there can be other > > elements which may be having further scope for perfection.In that case > > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste rather will become > > reference points for future researchers. > > > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars like > > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is your generosity > > and i know my limitations.It is only because your blessings i am able > > to understand a few shlokas. > > > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not supposed to beleive > > something ,just because it was told by some one else or is mentioned > > in some text - but through our own experiments and realization.Thus i > > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha through an open > > approach with justice to conscience. > > > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times and as every > > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them is only the way > > out. > > > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I understand that > > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give everyone the > > required maturity. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way connected with Shreenadh. > > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he is the originator > > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a knowledgeable > > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am sure there some > > > misunderstanding here. > > > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable opinion of > > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are offensive while putting > > > across their views. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of cheapness - Srinadha is > > > > behind "True Chandrahari Ayanamsha". > > > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom i already warned > > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. he should be > > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt understand native > > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse any thing. > > > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in groups they get > > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met him, Rup Sir > > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind and level of > > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his influence,Though > > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur life, u cant do > > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence also, coz > > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things systematically. > > > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he reacts and told > > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low poisonous mind > > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what sanskaars he has, i > > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before me. > > > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's cheapness. He called > > > > me from Pune saying "Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi hai .... ". > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari ayanamsha, he is a > > > > well > > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it may not be such a > > > > good > > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want to use Chandra > > > > Hari > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to popularize one > > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz those who are > > > > behind > > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their motives. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on Varahmihira's Surya > > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error in it's Solar > > > > Year > > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 minutes error, so, > > > > any > > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta is first > > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's name, their pain is. > > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand so bringing all > > > > sort > > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Res. chnandrashekhar Ji, I m sorry to say i have seen in our both the groups that most of the predictions made on the basis of 360 days go wrong in predicting timing. can we do some excercise to fix this point of confusion, either 360 or 365, not both. A guru like u only can do it for the good of we learner. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > I am glad you find 360 Savana days year definition bearing the test of > application. There is no harm in finding out Chandra hari's ayanamsha > for research purpose. I am however pained to learn from others on the > list that he is these days more involved in Brahmin bashing and > indulging in caste divides. If this is true, it is difficult to respect > such a person. The knowledgeable do not indulge in such activities. > > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > Sorry for the delayed reply. > > I will be starting with a new job from jan 2008 as mentioned to you > > before and as end of decemeber is the last day with my current > > client i was bit busy. > > > > I am finding 360 days very satisfactory and is able to explain > > events. > > However the methodology and mathematical researches done by shri > > Chandrahari can be used for further researches or enhanced if any > > corrections are needed. > > > > Thank you for your kind words. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > I have already said that I respect Chandra Hari for his knowledge. > > He > > > has advanced a theory which is interesting and worth study. Being > > an old > > > person, I do not find the time to experiment with his Ayanamsha, > > but the > > > younger generation could certainly experiment with and find out > > their > > > own truth. > > > > > > I know that you do not write in vain. Do keep the inquiring spirit > > alive. > > > > > > take care, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita related > > > > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a > > scientific bent > > > > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same reason i had > > > > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His Moola/Mooladhara > > theories > > > > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > > > > > > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the > > past.However > > > > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 savana > > days > > > > as well with success. > > > > > > > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there can be > > other > > > > elements which may be having further scope for perfection.In > > that case > > > > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste rather will > > become > > > > reference points for future researchers. > > > > > > > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars like > > > > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is your > > generosity > > > > and i know my limitations.It is only because your blessings i am > > able > > > > to understand a few shlokas. > > > > > > > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not supposed to > > beleive > > > > something ,just because it was told by some one else or is > > mentioned > > > > in some text - but through our own experiments and > > realization.Thus i > > > > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha through an open > > > > approach with justice to conscience. > > > > > > > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times and as > > every > > > > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them is only > > the way > > > > out. > > > > > > > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I > > understand that > > > > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give everyone the > > > > required maturity. > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way connected with > > Shreenadh. > > > > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he is the > > originator > > > > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a knowledgeable > > > > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am sure there > > some > > > > > misunderstanding here. > > > > > > > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable opinion > > of > > > > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are offensive > > while putting > > > > > across their views. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of cheapness - > > Srinadha is > > > > > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > > > > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom i > > already warned > > > > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. he should > > be > > > > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt understand > > native > > > > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse any > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in groups > > they get > > > > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met him, > > Rup Sir > > > > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind and > > level of > > > > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his > > influence,Though > > > > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur life, u > > cant do > > > > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence also, > > coz > > > > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things > > systematically. > > > > > > > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he reacts > > and told > > > > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low > > poisonous mind > > > > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what sanskaars he > > has, i > > > > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's cheapness. > > He called > > > > > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi hai ... " . > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari ayanamsha, > > he is a > > > > > > well > > > > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it may not be > > such a > > > > > > good > > > > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want to use > > Chandra > > > > > > Hari > > > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to popularize > > one > > > > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz those > > who are > > > > > > behind > > > > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their motives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on Varahmihira's > > Surya > > > > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error in it's > > Solar > > > > > > Year > > > > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 minutes > > error, so, > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta > > is first > > > > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's name, their > > pain is. > > > > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand so > > bringing all > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Hi Chandrashekhar ji knows whether i have discussed the possibilities of 360 days etc with shri Chandrahari,which indirectly points towards a possible correction to the proposed ayanamsha. I have not intentionally tried to create any divisions and hope will not do so in the future. Regds Pradeep Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > > no one is uncommon, one's work makes a him uncommon , I must say u > are an intelligent person, ur writing is creative but direction ... > was negative. > > Pls. understand there is one god and all the souls are derived from > the same god, already there is so many problems around us, so much > hatred, let's not do anything that divides people more, let's not > split the divine love in parts. > > u can see terrorism is taking it's worse shape, let's not do anything > that creates more seperation. > > let's not do anything that divides people more, let's not split the > divine love in parts. > > if we can remain a good human being with healthy heart and healthy > mind, perhapse will be biggest contribution to society, let's love > each other, let's dissolve the seperatism in love. > > i came to know about my previous and current birth, my karmas, my > sufferings, my duties, i know and understand how you, me and we all > eveolve in series of births. > > remain assured, unless u willingly do something wrong, a wrong thing > that can disrupt integrity of people and culture, there will be > nothing bad in ur life, I approached the God while writing few last > posts to u and said what should have been said. > > I didnt understand why u have not asked chandrahari about that > precision error in calculation of surya siddhanta, has he rectified > that, if not, stop promoting his ayanamsha till he rectifies the > mistakes. > > ~Lalit. > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > You please read my mails carefully before you write back. > > > > I have fear and thus i am a common man.Thus i have said,if HIS wish > is > > there we can also overcome this fear. > > I am nothing in front of HIM and i know nothing. > > > > I used to care for appreciators.I used to care for acceptance.I had > > tried to convince.Yes i accept this.This was immaturity and > inexperience. > > > > However i have understood that,i need not convince anyone,i have to > > just do justice to my conscience as far as astrology is > > concerned.Those who feel worthy will agree with my views.I respect > > others too.I have to just stick to the fundamental principles.No > > matter however hard one tries to threaten, i will keep sticking to > > those.I am prepared to change,only if pramanas are given. > > > > I have never tried nor will try to mislead people as you have said.I > > have only stood by what the texts have told.I have never created my > > own theories.I have never given adhoc answers,and explanations which > > keep on changing.I have always said no when i do not know. > > > > Thus irrespective of whether it is my views or others views - Truth > > alone will prevail.TIME will prove. > > > > Regarding scope for improvement and mistakes, if at any point in > life > > ,if anyone thinks, he has no scope for improvement,then he is in > maya. > > > > Thus i always have a scope for improvement.If you think you have > > realized - i cannot comment as it is a personal experience,which you > > alone will know. > > > > I am a common soul. > > > > Pradeep > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > > wrote: > > > > > > If u have no fear why this retrospection ? > > > > > > U people misused internet's power to mislead people in last 5 - 6 > > > yrs, OK, with carefully chosen diplomatic language (kschhadm > bhasha) > > > u may have got good no of appreciators also ..., I dont care ! > > > > > > But i will enusre all what u thought and tried will topple, you > all > > > got just a first time hit .... > > > > > > Fear and Intellectuality - You can use only words, can only give > > > descriptions, wherefrom u w'd get true active spiritual > blessings, > > > real power , real experience ... , have ever Shiva the Mahakaal > > > visited u ? have u ever seen him ? Do u know his wish ? > > > > > > Your mahakaal is bound to care me !! > > > > > > like a sun ray removes dark, i can tear off all conspiracy, no > one in > > > the world can confuse me .., I m not a weak man who needs ur > astro > > > reradings or ur blessings for my kids.... > > > > > > Dont fear, I have not cursed u, If i had, there is no space left > for > > > people like u in the world... > > > > > > I already told u, go to amma amritanandamai, gotu to ur guru .. > tell > > > them I have said u this ... and see if u get any relief ??? > > > > > > Only ur misdeeds, misadventure is coming before u ... and will > always. > > > > > > Solution is simple - leave ur conspiracies against this great > > > nation's integrity and integral heritage ..... Dont mislead > people. > > > > > > I already promised to Narsimha, to show the true active proven > > > spirituality. > > > > > > Right !! > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > So that means you have no plans to change?:-)) -only interested > in > > > > changing others. > > > > > > > > M.K.Gandhi said you should become the change that you wish to > see > > > in > > > > others.Why not give a try? > > > > > > > > Dear Brother - Fear is the very reason for rebirth.Even hunger > is > > > > because of fear.The biggest and greatest among all fears is > Marana > > > > Bhaya or fear from death. > > > > > > > > If Mahakala wishes we can overcome this fear as well.Because HE > > > > alone is the Yogi who has transcended time. > > > > > > > > Before pointing fingers at others - try to see your inner > self.We > > > > are what we really are and not the image that we project.Hope > you > > > > understand.I am not interested inanother debate with you. > > > > > > > > Happy New year > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sns Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > A warning is always friendly ... > > > > > > > > > > if u didnt do something bad, u didnt hear unpleasant .. it is > as > > > > > simple as that, somewhere u touched the limit so consequences > are > > > > set > > > > > to touch the limit, but will not go beyond the limit .. why > > > bother > > > > so > > > > > much.... cross the limit and consequences will also cross. > > > > > > > > > > ... Mahakaal's wishes, You will know it in due time, not far > > > off !! > > > > > > > > > > change or get changed - Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Brother > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a limit for everything. > > > > > > If you are not changing your attitude i have to stop > writing in > > > > > this > > > > > > forum.I am here because of some individuals whom i respect > and > > > > have > > > > > > love for. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are finding pleasure through threatening and > > > > blackmailing.This > > > > > > is not at all a quality deserved in human beings forget > about > > > > > > astrologers. > > > > > > > > > > > > You have to understand that it is not your threats that > bring > > > > out > > > > > > results but the will of Lord.I have mentioned to you in the > > > past > > > > as > > > > > > well that i totally leave everything at the feet of Lord > > > Sankara > > > > > and > > > > > > my Gurus.HE will take care and act as necessary. > > > > > > > > > > > > Never try your dirty/cheap tricks at me and stop playing > GOD.As > > > > far > > > > > > as Jyotish is concerned i will write and express my views > with > > > > love > > > > > > and devotion towards Lord and my Gurus. > > > > > > > > > > > > Every threat that you direct at common souls who are here > in > > > > this > > > > > > world to discharge their karmas is a threat to Maha Kaala > who > > > is > > > > > > none other than Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will never curse you as you are doing with me > > > > continously.Please > > > > > > don't accumulate bad karmas. > > > > > > > > > > > > May GOD bless you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feb, march, april.. count few months this way, change ur > > > > heart > > > > > > and > > > > > > > mind, not always u will get the advice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the delayed reply. > > > > > > > > I will be starting with a new job from jan 2008 as > > > mentioned > > > > to > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > before and as end of decemeber is the last day with my > > > > current > > > > > > > > client i was bit busy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am finding 360 days very satisfactory and is able to > > > > explain > > > > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > However the methodology and mathematical researches > done by > > > > > shri > > > > > > > > Chandrahari can be used for further researches or > enhanced > > > > if > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > corrections are needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your kind words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already said that I respect Chandra Hari for > his > > > > > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > has advanced a theory which is interesting and worth > > > > study. > > > > > > Being > > > > > > > > an old > > > > > > > > > person, I do not find the time to experiment with his > > > > > > Ayanamsha, > > > > > > > > but the > > > > > > > > > younger generation could certainly experiment with > and > > > > find > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > own truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that you do not write in vain. Do keep the > > > > inquiring > > > > > > > spirit > > > > > > > > alive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take care, > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the > ganita > > > > > > related > > > > > > > > > > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence > has a > > > > > > > > scientific bent > > > > > > > > > > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same > > > > reason i > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His > > > > > Moola/Mooladhara > > > > > > > > theories > > > > > > > > > > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda > concepts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in > the > > > > > > > > past.However > > > > > > > > > > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with > the > > > 360 > > > > > > savana > > > > > > > > days > > > > > > > > > > as well with success. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct > there > > > > can > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > elements which may be having further scope for > > > > > perfection.In > > > > > > > > that case > > > > > > > > > > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste > > > > rather > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > become > > > > > > > > > > reference points for future researchers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned > > > scholars > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it > is > > > > your > > > > > > > > generosity > > > > > > > > > > and i know my limitations.It is only because your > > > > blessings > > > > > > i > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > able > > > > > > > > > > to understand a few shlokas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not > > > > supposed > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > beleive > > > > > > > > > > something ,just because it was told by some one > else or > > > > is > > > > > > > > mentioned > > > > > > > > > > in some text - but through our own experiments and > > > > > > > > realization.Thus i > > > > > > > > > > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha > > > > through > > > > > an > > > > > > > open > > > > > > > > > > approach with justice to conscience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at > times > > > > and > > > > > as > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > individual has some limitations,effort to correct > them > > > > is > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > the way > > > > > > > > > > out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no > hatred.I > > > > > > > > understand that > > > > > > > > > > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give > > > > everyone > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > required maturity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing% > 40>, > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way > > > > connected > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > Shreenadh. > > > > > > > > > > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean > he > > > > is > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > originator > > > > > > > > > > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a > > > > > > knowledgeable > > > > > > > > > > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I > am > > > > sure > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > misunderstanding here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a > > > favorable > > > > > > > opinion > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are > > > > offensive > > > > > > > > while putting > > > > > > > > > > > across their views. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of > > > > > cheapness - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Srinadha is > > > > > > > > > > > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, > whom > > > > i > > > > > > > > already warned > > > > > > > > > > > > to see bad time if he doent change his > attitude .. > > > > he > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant > > > infer/analyse > > > > > any > > > > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his > postings in > > > > > > groups > > > > > > > > they get > > > > > > > > > > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I > have > > > met > > > > > > him, > > > > > > > > Rup Sir > > > > > > > > > > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of > mind > > > > and > > > > > > > > level of > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under > his > > > > > > > > influence,Though > > > > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in > ur > > > > life, > > > > > > u > > > > > > > > cant do > > > > > > > > > > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his > > > influence > > > > > > also, > > > > > > > > coz > > > > > > > > > > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial > > > things > > > > > > > > systematically. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the > way > > > he > > > > > > reacts > > > > > > > > and told > > > > > > > > > > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has > a > > > low > > > > > > > > poisonous mind > > > > > > > > > > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what > > > > > sanskaars > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > has, i > > > > > > > > > > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting > > > before > > > > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's > > > > > > cheapness. > > > > > > > > He called > > > > > > > > > > > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi > > > > > > hai ... " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing% > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya > Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari > > > > > > ayanamsha, > > > > > > > > he is a > > > > > > > > > > > > well > > > > > > > > > > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So > it > > > > may > > > > > > not > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > such a > > > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who > want > > > > to > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > Chandra > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari > > > > > > > > > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best > to > > > > > > > popularize > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn > all > > > coz > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > who are > > > > > > > > > > > > behind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in > their > > > > > motives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on > > > > > > > Varahmihira's > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute > error > > > > in > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > Solar > > > > > > > > > > > > Year > > > > > > > > > > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's > 3.27 > > > > > minutes > > > > > > > > error, so, > > > > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's > Surya > > > > > > > sidhanta > > > > > > > > is first > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase > Varahmihira's > > > > name, > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > pain is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a > brand > > > > so > > > > > > > > bringing all > > > > > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless > propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Dear Chandrashekhar ji Yes i am extensively testing and happy with numerous events/charts.There were few cases where certain events (concrete events) were off the mark by a few days and in some by cases by little more than a month. I will check with shri Chandrahari regarding the concern expressed.Generalisation cannot be made on exceptional examples as it can be true with human beings born in any caste/religon.Moreover mistakes might have happened from all and digging history might not be congenial for harmony.Thus i will check with him regarding the reason behind his stance. Respect Pradeep Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > I am glad you find 360 Savana days year definition bearing the test of > application. There is no harm in finding out Chandra hari's ayanamsha > for research purpose. I am however pained to learn from others on the > list that he is these days more involved in Brahmin bashing and > indulging in caste divides. If this is true, it is difficult to respect > such a person. The knowledgeable do not indulge in such activities. > > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > Sorry for the delayed reply. > > I will be starting with a new job from jan 2008 as mentioned to you > > before and as end of decemeber is the last day with my current > > client i was bit busy. > > > > I am finding 360 days very satisfactory and is able to explain > > events. > > However the methodology and mathematical researches done by shri > > Chandrahari can be used for further researches or enhanced if any > > corrections are needed. > > > > Thank you for your kind words. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > I have already said that I respect Chandra Hari for his knowledge. > > He > > > has advanced a theory which is interesting and worth study. Being > > an old > > > person, I do not find the time to experiment with his Ayanamsha, > > but the > > > younger generation could certainly experiment with and find out > > their > > > own truth. > > > > > > I know that you do not write in vain. Do keep the inquiring spirit > > alive. > > > > > > take care, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita related > > > > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a > > scientific bent > > > > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same reason i had > > > > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His Moola/Mooladhara > > theories > > > > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > > > > > > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the > > past.However > > > > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 savana > > days > > > > as well with success. > > > > > > > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there can be > > other > > > > elements which may be having further scope for perfection.In > > that case > > > > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste rather will > > become > > > > reference points for future researchers. > > > > > > > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars like > > > > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is your > > generosity > > > > and i know my limitations.It is only because your blessings i am > > able > > > > to understand a few shlokas. > > > > > > > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not supposed to > > beleive > > > > something ,just because it was told by some one else or is > > mentioned > > > > in some text - but through our own experiments and > > realization.Thus i > > > > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha through an open > > > > approach with justice to conscience. > > > > > > > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times and as > > every > > > > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them is only > > the way > > > > out. > > > > > > > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I > > understand that > > > > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give everyone the > > > > required maturity. > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way connected with > > Shreenadh. > > > > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he is the > > originator > > > > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a knowledgeable > > > > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am sure there > > some > > > > > misunderstanding here. > > > > > > > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable opinion > > of > > > > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are offensive > > while putting > > > > > across their views. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of cheapness - > > Srinadha is > > > > > > behind " True Chandrahari Ayanamsha " . > > > > > > > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom i > > already warned > > > > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. he should > > be > > > > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt understand > > native > > > > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse any > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in groups > > they get > > > > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met him, > > Rup Sir > > > > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind and > > level of > > > > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his > > influence,Though > > > > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur life, u > > cant do > > > > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence also, > > coz > > > > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things > > systematically. > > > > > > > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he reacts > > and told > > > > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low > > poisonous mind > > > > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what sanskaars he > > has, i > > > > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's cheapness. > > He called > > > > > > me from Pune saying " Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi hai ... " . > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari ayanamsha, > > he is a > > > > > > well > > > > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it may not be > > such a > > > > > > good > > > > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want to use > > Chandra > > > > > > Hari > > > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to popularize > > one > > > > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz those > > who are > > > > > > behind > > > > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their motives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on Varahmihira's > > Surya > > > > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error in it's > > Solar > > > > > > Year > > > > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 minutes > > error, so, > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta > > is first > > > > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's name, their > > pain is. > > > > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand so > > bringing all > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Dear Pradeep, I am sure you will keep meticulous records and test the premise well. Let me know what Chandra Hari's stand is on the subject. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar ji Yes i am extensively testing and happy with numerous events/charts.There were few cases where certain events (concrete events) were off the mark by a few days and in some by cases by little more than a month. I will check with shri Chandrahari regarding the concern expressed.Generalisation cannot be made on exceptional examples as it can be true with human beings born in any caste/religon.Moreover mistakes might have happened from all and digging history might not be congenial for harmony.Thus i will check with him regarding the reason behind his stance. Respect Pradeep Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > I am glad you find 360 Savana days year definition bearing the test of > application. There is no harm in finding out Chandra hari's ayanamsha > for research purpose. I am however pained to learn from others on the > list that he is these days more involved in Brahmin bashing and > indulging in caste divides. If this is true, it is difficult to respect > such a person. The knowledgeable do not indulge in such activities. > > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > Sorry for the delayed reply. > > I will be starting with a new job from jan 2008 as mentioned to you > > before and as end of decemeber is the last day with my current > > client i was bit busy. > > > > I am finding 360 days very satisfactory and is able to explain > > events. > > However the methodology and mathematical researches done by shri > > Chandrahari can be used for further researches or enhanced if any > > corrections are needed. > > > > Thank you for your kind words. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > I have already said that I respect Chandra Hari for his knowledge. > > He > > > has advanced a theory which is interesting and worth study. Being > > an old > > > person, I do not find the time to experiment with his Ayanamsha, > > but the > > > younger generation could certainly experiment with and find out > > their > > > own truth. > > > > > > I know that you do not write in vain. Do keep the inquiring spirit > > alive. > > > > > > take care, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > Shri Chandrahari has done extensible work in the ganita related > > > > section of astrology.He is a scientist and hence has a > > scientific bent > > > > of mind towards the mathematical part.For the same reason i had > > > > supported the works of shri Chandrahari.His Moola/Mooladhara > > theories > > > > are totally in line with pindanda/brahmanda concepts. > > > > > > > > Thus i had requested others to try the Ayanamsha in the > > past.However > > > > as you know i have been experimenting a lot with the 360 savana > > days > > > > as well with success. > > > > > > > > Even if the mathematical derivations are correct there can be > > other > > > > elements which may be having further scope for perfection.In > > that case > > > > the works done by Chandrahari will not go in waste rather will > > become > > > > reference points for future researchers. > > > > > > > > I am priviliged to hear kind words from learned scholars like > > > > you,especially as you are at Gurusthana.However it is your > > generosity > > > > and i know my limitations.It is only because your blessings i am > > able > > > > to understand a few shlokas. > > > > > > > > As SwamiVivekananda has rightly said - we are not supposed to > > beleive > > > > something ,just because it was told by some one else or is > > mentioned > > > > in some text - but through our own experiments and > > realization.Thus i > > > > do try to understand the fundamentals of Jyotisha through an open > > > > approach with justice to conscience. > > > > > > > > As you have rightly said ,i may be outspoken at times and as > > every > > > > individual has some limitations,effort to correct them is only > > the way > > > > out. > > > > > > > > Regarding the words used against me,i have no hatred.I > > understand that > > > > growth is evolutionary in nature and let GOD give everyone the > > > > required maturity. > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > I know for sure that Chandrahari is in no way connected with > > Shreenadh. > > > > > If Shreenadh is advocating it, that does not mean he is the > > originator > > > > > of Chandrahari ayanamsha. Vijaydas Pradeep is a knowledgeable > > > > > astrologer, though sometimes a bit outspoken. I am sure there > > some > > > > > misunderstanding here. > > > > > > > > > > By the way, this does not mean that I have a favorable opinion > > of > > > > > Shreenadh. I never think high of people who are offensive > > while putting > > > > > across their views. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to say a cunning guy with all sort of cheapness - > > Srinadha is > > > > > > behind "True Chandrahari Ayanamsha". > > > > > > > > > > > > The other man behind this is Vijadasa Pradeep, whom i > > already warned > > > > > > to see bad time if he doent change his attitude .. he should > > be > > > > > > facing same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even spending 10+ years in astrology he didnt understand > > native > > > > > > chart, beyond cramming shlokas he cant infer/analyse any > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > As people have not met him, through his postings in groups > > they get > > > > > > impression like he is a knowledgable guy, I have met him, > > Rup Sir > > > > > > have met him in delhi and we know his state of mind and > > level of > > > > > > astrology knowedge. > > > > > > > > > > > > With his cleverly talks even Rup Sir came under his > > influence,Though > > > > > > Rup Sir told Srinadh with the too much mars in ur life, u > > cant do > > > > > > good in astrology, however, he came in his influence also, > > coz > > > > > > Sriandh is good in putting hollow superficial things > > systematically. > > > > > > > > > > > > When i explained him to read his mind and the way he reacts > > and told > > > > > > him that his face is itself saying that he has a low > > poisonous mind > > > > > > to ceate scandals coz he doent understand what sanskaars he > > has, i > > > > > > was catching his aura... while he was sitting before me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rup Sir took 1.5 months to understand Srinadh's cheapness. > > He called > > > > > > me from Pune saying "Ye to bahut hi ganda aadmi hai ... ". > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Varahamihira wrote Surya Siddhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, though I too do not use Chandra Hari ayanamsha, > > he is a > > > > > > well > > > > > > > read person and knowledgeable astrologer. So it may not be > > such a > > > > > > good > > > > > > > idea to impute ulterior motives to those who want to use > > Chandra > > > > > > Hari > > > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These days few people are doing their best to popularize > > one > > > > > > > > Chandrahari Ayanamsha, I thought to warn all coz those > > who are > > > > > > behind > > > > > > > > this mission have always been wrong in their motives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this Ayanamsha is based on Varahmihira's > > Surya > > > > > > Sidhanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta has a minute error in it's > > Solar > > > > > > Year > > > > > > > > calculation, if i remember rightly it's 3.27 minutes > > error, so, > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha which is based on Varahmihira's Surya sidhanta > > is first > > > > > > > > sight erroneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is their effort to encase Varahmihira's name, their > > pain is. > > > > > > > > they dont get established themselves as a brand so > > bringing all > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > of products by hook or crook. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be careful in such type of baseless propoganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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