Guest guest Posted December 25, 2007 Report Share Posted December 25, 2007 Hare Rama KrsnaHraum Namah AdityayDear Arkay ji, Shree Chandrasekhar ji, Prabodh ji and others,Namaskar.Yes arkay ji, Shani Maharaj is still an enigma, I know he is behind my life's experiences but I am wiser to have recognised them as harsh lessons in this school of learning of this lifetime and has sort of insulated me . I feel the after effects of the shocks etc after a while a by then I am geared up to face them with help for the Cosmic.My Saturn, bhaisaab is with digbala in Dhanus with Guru 9th and 10th lord yuti, Shukra and Mangala in Makara lorded by Shani Maharaj.Surya is in Kumbha.I think I am past those days when I would have loved a reading for the sake of it. Now I look for opinions and view points to refine and hone my comprehension, thinking. Come to think of it no reading I have ever got has been comprehensive and fully able to 'unravel' or 'connect', just given me glimpses of what, how and why !!!!But I agree with you that Saturn proclivity is half the chart the other half also closely connected and all of them on the left hand side of the ship and the sole 'captain' Rahu at the helm/rudder. ( I dont sail and please dont get pedantic with the star board and lee sides of the ship and the like... apologise for my bla`seness.But I hope when there is a reduced Hamsa yoga could I not hope for atleast a still reduced Dharmakarmadhipathi yoga?CheersNalini arkaydash <arkaydashVedic Astrologyandhealing Sent: Tuesday, 25 December, 2007 9:49:08 AM[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] 8/9th lord Saturn Nalini, Vekhande saab, Shree Chandrashekhar: My little experience says that Saturn for Mithuna lagna is half the horoscope. He is enigma wrapped in mystery. Nalini, you are not alone in this group with such a lord -- a lord which rules bhagya and rules its absence or drain (fortune-drain) . You can never know where yu would be led to trip unless you have internalised important lessons in school of life. Shree Chandrashekhar is right in wanting to know the overall Saturn proclivity in (your) particular chart. So far you have told forum your Sa is in Aqu conjunct Ma and Ve, right? (Don't expect a reading. Even Lalit could not manage one. You will be helped along, though) We know Mithuna-lagnaa and Mesha-lagnaa can't have the luxury of 'dharmakarmadhipa yoga'. I will keep to Mithuna-lagnaa vis-a-vis Sa. Their 'smbandha' must be such that they are not conjunct (yuti) nor in swap (vyataya), the latter being strongest of five-fold smbandhas. Nor should they aspect each other. Yet they have to have some meeting point to activate the houses 9,10. They must somehow cross-fertilise 9,10 houses. What could be an ideal scenario? Would we have Sa in 10th. Or would we have Saturn aspecting 10th hse, ie Pisces; but from where? Fom Budha's two signs (hse one and hse 4)? Or from its own sign, Capri. Now the other hand for the clap: Ju. He can be in any sign of the air triplicity to cover the hse 9th. Where would he be best placed avoiding the direct gaze of Sa? I will try to build a model of placement in next post. But before that I would urge Group to ponder this point re Sa (and Ju) vis-a-vis Mithuna lagna. PTP: Sa in itself suffices as 9th lord and 10th lord for this lagna; Ju in itself suffices as 10th lord and 9th lord. 'Sudhi' senior members may forgive anything outre in my line of enquiry and point that out. RK Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 RK ji Namaste It is really interesting to explore that Shani/Guru direct sambandha (Yuti or Parivartana) for Mithuna Lagna may nullfy Rajayoga but as you said Shani aspecting 10th and Guru aspecting 9th will do the trick. I think Shani aspecting from Budha's rashi should be far better than from his own rashi Makara. At the same time Guru from the Tula is better if Shani is in Mithuna and Guru in Mithuna is good if Shani is in Kanya. I see Shani for Mithuna lagna as some secret that can change the fate. Like Kunti of Mahabharata. Kunti's secret changed the fate of BharatVarsha! Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar > > arkaydash <arkaydash > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Tuesday, 25 December, 2007 9:49:08 AM > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] 8/9th lord Saturn > > Nalini, Vekhande saab, Shree Chandrashekhar: > > My little experience says that Saturn for Mithuna lagna is half the > > horoscope. He is enigma wrapped in mystery. > > > > Nalini, you are not alone in this group with such a lord -- a lord > > which rules bhagya and rules its absence or drain (fortune-drain) . > > You can never know where yu would be led to trip unless you have > > internalised important lessons in school of life. Shree Chandrashekhar > > is right in wanting to know the overall Saturn proclivity in (your) > > particular chart. So far you have told forum your Sa is in Aqu conjunct > > Ma and Ve, right? (Don't expect a reading. Even Lalit could not manage > > one. You will be helped along, though) > > > > We know Mithuna-lagnaa and Mesha-lagnaa can't have the luxury > > of 'dharmakarmadhipa yoga'. I will keep to Mithuna-lagnaa vis-a-vis Sa. > > > > Their 'smbandha' must be such that they are not conjunct (yuti) nor in > > swap (vyataya), the latter being strongest of five-fold smbandhas. Nor > > should they aspect each other. Yet they have to have some meeting point > > to activate the houses 9,10. They must somehow cross-fertilise 9,10 > > houses. What could be an ideal scenario? > > > > Would we have Sa in 10th. Or would we have Saturn aspecting 10th hse, > > ie Pisces; but from where? Fom Budha's two signs (hse one and hse 4)? > > Or from its own sign, Capri. Now the other hand for the clap: Ju. He > > can be in any sign of the air triplicity to cover the hse 9th. Where > > would he be best placed avoiding the direct gaze of Sa? I will try to > > build a model of placement in next post. But before that I would urge > > Group to ponder this point re Sa (and Ju) vis-a-vis Mithuna lagna. > > > > PTP: Sa in itself suffices as 9th lord and 10th lord for this lagna; > > Ju in itself suffices as 10th lord and 9th lord. > > > > 'Sudhi' senior members may forgive anything outre in my line of enquiry > > and point that out. > > > > RK > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mkp{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} > #ygrp-mkp hr{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} > #ygrp-mkp #hd{ > color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line- height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} > #ygrp-mkp #ads{ > margin-bottom:10px;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad{ > padding:0 0;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ > color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ > font-family:Arial;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ > margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ > margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family:Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family:Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text- align:right;} > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white-space:nowrap;} > .bld{font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom:10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text- transform:uppercase;} > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin:2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text- align:right;padding-right:.5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-vital a{ > text-decoration:none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ > background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font- size:100%;line-height:122%;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration:none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o{font-size:0;} > .MsoNormal{ > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120%;} > blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq{margin:4;} > --> > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Dear Nalini, I would have liked the Dharmakarmadhipati yoga to have occured in the 9th or the 10th bhava. Yet, there is certainly a raj yoga buy virtue of a trine and square lords coming together in a kendra. That Saturn is with strength of an exalted Saturn (from navamsha) certainly gives the ability to look at adhyatma in depth as it aspects the 9th bhava. Chandrashekhar. nalini swamy wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Hraum Namah Adityay Dear Arkay ji, Shree Chandrasekhar ji, Prabodh ji and others, Namaskar. Yes arkay ji, Shani Maharaj is still an enigma, I know he is behind my life's experiences but I am wiser to have recognised them as harsh lessons in this school of learning of this lifetime and has sort of insulated me . I feel the after effects of the shocks etc after a while a by then I am geared up to face them with help for the Cosmic. My Saturn, bhaisaab is with digbala in Dhanus with Guru 9th and 10th lord yuti, Shukra and Mangala in Makara lorded by Shani Maharaj. Surya is in Kumbha. I think I am past those days when I would have loved a reading for the sake of it. Now I look for opinions and view points to refine and hone my comprehension, thinking. Come to think of it no reading I have ever got has been comprehensive and fully able to 'unravel' or 'connect', just given me glimpses of what, how and why !!!! But I agree with you that Saturn proclivity is half the chart the other half also closely connected and all of them on the left hand side of the ship and the sole 'captain' Rahu at the helm/rudder. ( I dont sail and please dont get pedantic with the star board and lee sides of the ship and the like... apologise for my bla`seness. But I hope when there is a reduced Hamsa yoga could I not hope for atleast a still reduced Dharmakarmadhipathi yoga? Cheers Nalini  ----- Original Message ---- arkaydash <arkaydash > Vedic Astrologyandhealing Tuesday, 25 December, 2007 9:49:08 AM [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] 8/9th lord Saturn Nalini, Vekhande saab, Shree Chandrashekhar: My little experience says that Saturn for Mithuna lagna is half the horoscope. He is enigma wrapped in mystery. Nalini, you are not alone in this group with such a lord -- a lord which rules bhagya and rules its absence or drain (fortune-drain) . You can never know where yu would be led to trip unless you have internalised important lessons in school of life. Shree Chandrashekhar is right in wanting to know the overall Saturn proclivity in (your) particular chart. So far you have told forum your Sa is in Aqu conjunct Ma and Ve, right? (Don't expect a reading. Even Lalit could not manage one. You will be helped along, though) We know Mithuna-lagnaa and Mesha-lagnaa can't have the luxury of 'dharmakarmadhipa yoga'. I will keep to Mithuna-lagnaa vis-a-vis Sa. Their 'smbandha' must be such that they are not conjunct (yuti) nor in swap (vyataya), the latter being strongest of five-fold smbandhas. Nor should they aspect each other. Yet they have to have some meeting point to activate the houses 9,10. They must somehow cross-fertilise 9,10 houses. What could be an ideal scenario? Would we have Sa in 10th. Or would we have Saturn aspecting 10th hse, ie Pisces; but from where? Fom Budha's two signs (hse one and hse 4)? Or from its own sign, Capri. Now the other hand for the clap: Ju. He can be in any sign of the air triplicity to cover the hse 9th. Where would he be best placed avoiding the direct gaze of Sa? I will try to build a model of placement in next post. But before that I would urge Group to ponder this point re Sa (and Ju) vis-a-vis Mithuna lagna. PTP: Sa in itself suffices as 9th lord and 10th lord for this lagna; Ju in itself suffices as 10th lord and 9th lord. 'Sudhi' senior members may forgive anything outre in my line of enquiry and point that out. RK Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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