Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Prabodh Ji, Namaskaar, group is thankful to you for ur contributions and guidance, I need a personal favor from you, some 15 days back, I wanted to post Netaji Shubhash Chandra Bosh's horoscope, I dont know where i missed it, w'd request you to do an analysis of his chart and mode of death. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Prabodh Vekhande " <amolmandar wrote: > > Chandrashekhar Ji Namaste > > I am really sorry for my quality of english. I will try again. I did > say that only Shubha(FB) can be RYK. That is if a graha has to lead > to Rajyoga, it must satisfy some conditions. > 1) It must be Shubha or Functional Benefic. > 1.1) Shubha or FB means lord of 5th and 9th. > 2) only 9th lord can lead to Rajyoga > 3) This 9th lord( which is always Shubha or FB) must have some > sambandha with 10th lord. > 4) This 9th lord should not be with blemish. Blemish is for behaving > as Rajyogakarak and blemish does not mean loss of Shubhatva. > 4.1) Blemish to 9th lord can be because of lordship of 3,6,8,11 > simultaneously. > 4.2) Blemish to 9th lord can be because of it 'Sambandha' with 10th > lord that has blemish. > > > >Read together it does mean that a shubha is not so (what you > > designate as FB) if blemished. > > No. Slight correction. Read together it means that Shubha is not > Rajyogakaraka, if blemished. > > I hope this time I made no mistake in my english! > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > Prabodh Vekhande > Jai Jai Shankar > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prabodh, > > > > I am really confused as to what you mean by FB and what is shubha, > > according to you. May be at my age the cryptic use of initials is > too > > much to grasp. But did you not say " I mean only Shubha (FB)can be > > qualified as Rajyogakarak " ? and then that the shubhas should be > without > > blemish. Read together it does mean that a shubha is not so (what > you > > designate as FB) if blemished. But then my comprehension could be > wrong. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji Namaste > > > > > > >So why the distinction between > > > > Functional benefic not being yogakaraka and Shubha being so at > this > > > > stage? > > > > > > There is no distinction from my side. Trikonesh(5th/9th) is FB > (Shubha) > > > but every FB(Shubha) is not YK. 9th lord along with 10th lord can > > > lead to YK. To avoid repetition BPHS has indicated many things by > > > necessary connotation though not expressed directly. That is the > > > reason,why BPHS has not said anything about Shubha or Ashubha of > > > shani for Budha's lagna. > > > Like, since before describing specific lagna, it has discussed in > > > general Shubhashubha of Bhava-Bhavesh. In that it clearly says > > > that " TrikoneshaH ShubhaH SmrutaH " . Keeping this in mind if > > > intreprete shlokas of specific lagna we may get correct results. > > > > > > > > As regards to Laghu and Guru Parashari and their undisputed > > > > > credibility I have nothing much to say but what about those > > > portions > > > > > of Guru Parashari which are not included in Laghu Parashari? > > > Should > > > > > we ignore them as we can dispute their credibility? > > > > > > Since you ignored this question what should we follow? Laghu > > > Parashari or Guru Parahari? > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > Chandrashekhar > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prabodh, > > > > > > > > Can you make it clear as to what you meant by Benefic in the > > > original > > > > post, if not functional benefic? So why the distinction between > > > > Functional benefic not being yogakaraka and Shubha being so at > this > > > > stage? I do not find any such distinction in the shlokas of > BPHS. > > > Do > > > > you? If I remember right, Parashara says that for Mithuna lagna > > > only > > > > Shukra is shubha. > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar Ji Namaste > > > > > > > > > > Should we not take general and specific rule into > consideration? > > > Like > > > > > being RajYogakaraka is specific to being Shubha. I mean only > > > Shubha > > > > > (FB)can be qualified as Rajyogakarak(Lord of 9th and 10th and > > > their > > > > > Sambandha). Secondly,these Shubha grahas should be without > > > blemish. > > > > > Blemish can be there(to be qualified not as RY) because of > graha > > > > > holding 3,6,8,11 as well. That is why for Mithuna Shani is > Shubha > > > (FB) > > > > > but being 8th lord as well when gets associated with 10th lord > > > Guru > > > > > does not lead to RY. > > > > > > > > > > So I see it as > > > > > > > > > > Mesha > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord Guru is Shubha and is 12th lord so qualifies as RYK > > > > > 10th lord Shani is lord of 11th as well hence can not give RYK > > > even > > > > > if involved with 9th lord Guru. > > > > > > > > > > Vrishabha > > > > > Shani RYK as 9th and 10th lord > > > > > Mithuna > > > > > Shani is Shubha but being 8th lord can not lead to RYK even if > > > > > invloved with 10th lord Guru. > > > > > Karka > > > > > Guru is Benefic but RYK is only Mangal. Guru is 6th lord as > well > > > so > > > > > not RYK status. > > > > > Simha > > > > > 9th lord Mangal is RYK but 10th lord Shukra is as well 3rd > lord so > > > > > its association with Mangal does not lead to RY. > > > > > Kanya > > > > > 9th lord is benefic and co-lord of 2nd hence RYK along with > 10th > > > lord > > > > > Budha. > > > > > Tula > > > > > 9th lord is benefic and co-lord of 12th hence RYK along with > 10th > > > > > lord Chandra . > > > > > Vrichika > > > > > Surya-Chandra RYK > > > > > Dhanu > > > > > Surya Budha RYK > > > > > Makara > > > > > 9th lord Budha is benefic but being 6th lord does not lead to > RYK > > > > > Kumbha > > > > > Shukar only RYK as 10th lord Mangal is 3rd lord as well > > > > > Meena > > > > > 9th lord is benefic and since takes 2nd lordship leads to RYK > > > along > > > > > with 10th lord Guru. > > > > > > > > > > So what I understand by Parashara is that > > > > > > > > > > 1) > > > > > Trikonesh(9th and 5th Lord) are alwyas Benefic but 9th lord > may > > > not > > > > > lead to Rajyoga if owns (3,6,8,11). > > > > > 2) > > > > > When Lagnesh is NB and 6th lord(Shukra for Vrishabha),it is > > > Ashubha > > > > > and when it is NM and 6th lord(Mangal for Vrishcika),it is > Sama- > > > Shubha > > > > > > > > > > When Lagnesh is NB and 8th lord(Shukra for Tula),it is Sama- > Shubha > > > > > and when it is NM and 8th lord( Mangal for Mesha), it is > Shubha. > > > > > > > > > > As regards to Laghu and Guru Parashari and their undisputed > > > > > credibility I have nothing much to say but what about those > > > portions > > > > > of Guru Parashari which are not included in Laghu Parashari? > > > Should > > > > > we ignore them as we can dispute their credibility? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabodh, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure that you are aware that Laghu Parashari was always > > > > > available > > > > > > in manuscript form and also called Ududaya Pradeep. BPHS was > > > > > either > > > > > > compilation of shlokas from various pandits who remembered > them > > > or > > > > > from > > > > > > manuscripts that had different shloka amongst themselves. > So it > > > is > > > > > safer > > > > > > to go with What is available in Laghu Parashari from whose > > > shloka I > > > > > > quoted. The same also appears in most of the other editions > of > > > BPHS > > > > > and > > > > > > does make sense. The reason is the following shloka: > > > > > > > > > > > > xmRkmaRixnetaraE rNØlaÉaixpaE yid, > > > > > > > > > > > > dharmakarmädhinetärau randhraläbhädhipau yadi | > > > > > > > > > > > > tyae> sMbNxmaÇe[ n yaeg< lÉte nr>.22. > > > > > > > > > > > > tayoù sambandhamätreëa na yogaà labhate naraù ||22|| > > > > > > > > > > > > _ _ > > > > > > > > > > > > _If lord of the 9^th or 10^th are also lords of 8^th or > 11^th > > > these > > > > > > associations do not give rise to (Raj) Yoga._ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure that even Deveshchandra Jha edition should have > that > > > > > shloka. > > > > > > Here the malfeasance acquired by lord of the 9th due to > > > > > simultaneously > > > > > > owning the 8th or the 11th is made amply clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First it says > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Bhagyavyayadhiptyena randresho na shubhaprada " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord of the 8th is not auspicious, being 12th house lord > to > > > 9th > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > then it goes on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " lagnatrikonapavashat sa eva shubhado mataH " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if it(8th lord) is trikonesh as well,then it will > become > > > > > benefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is in Choukhanba Sanskrit Sansthan BPHS by Devashandra > Za. > > > > > Atleast > > > > > > > in this edition,we dont get a condition of 8th lord > placement. > > > > > Which > > > > > > > one to read and follow? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabodh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read what Parashara says carefully, again. He says that > only > > > > > when > > > > > > > such a > > > > > > > > graha is lagnesha and is placed in Lagna or the 8th it > is > > > not > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > considered ashubha. He does not say about its being > shubha > > > only > > > > > by > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > the co-lord of the 9th or trine to it. I am pasting the > > > shloka, > > > > > > > with its > > > > > > > > approximate translation (as much is lost in English > > > translation) > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > your ready reference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÉaGyVyaixpTyen rNØezae n zuÉàd>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhägyavyädhipatyena randhreço na çubhapradaù | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > s @v zuÉsNxata l¶axIzae=ip cet! Svym!.9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sa eva çubhasandhätä lagnädhéço'pi cet svayam ||9|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _Lord of the 8^th is not auspicious, being 12^th house > lord > > > to > > > > > 9^th > > > > > > > > house. However if he is also Lord of lagna and occupies > > > Lagna or > > > > > > > 8^th > > > > > > > > house he gives benefic results._ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course if you are referring to any other shloka, > please > > > let > > > > > me > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > which shloka you are referring to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per Parashara, 8th lord if as well be trine lord > > > should be > > > > > > > > > considerd as Shubha. As per Parashara, 8th house is > > > ashubha > > > > > since > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > is 12th to 9th the bhagya. So when 8th lord is colord > of > > > 9th > > > > > or > > > > > > > trine > > > > > > > > > to it, it does not affect badly to bhgaya and hence > > > should be > > > > > > > treated > > > > > > > > > as Shubha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They are yet not treated as functional benefics, for > > > dasha > > > > > > > > > analysis. The > > > > > > > > > > results are mixed as you rightly deduce. generally > if > > > the > > > > > graha > > > > > > > > > owns a > > > > > > > > > > good house and another is the 6th or the 8th it is > not > > > > > > > considered a > > > > > > > > > > functional benefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group/Elders, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. correct/enhance following , if required - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) If one and same planet is lord of 1st and > 8'th , > > > eg - > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > Aries Asc and Venus for Libra Asc, is not > considered > > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) If one and same planet is lord of 5'th *and* > 8'th > > > eg - > > > > > Jup > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > Leo Asc and Merc for Aquar Asc and placed in 5'th > *or > > > > > *8'th > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > considered bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c) If on and same planet is lord of 8'th and 9'th > eg - > > > > > Sat for > > > > > > > > > Gemini > > > > > > > > > > > Asc and placed in 9'th is not bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My View : Though not bad, but should not be fully > good > > > > > also, > > > > > > > > > mixed > > > > > > > > > > > results we should derive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be posting exceptions to other houeses > also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Lalit ji Namaste > Namaskaar, group is thankful to you for ur contributions and > guidance This usually said to a person when he retires from the office knowing that again he wont come! I am surprise that you asked me to analyse chart of a person whose AL is in papakartari and 8th from it has UL with the Sun,Mercury, and RAHU and 12th has Mars. Well-placed Mars(Khun/Blood) and Mercury (Azadi/Independance) from Lagna gave him sharp intellect and dash to get the things done. At the time of death, he was in Karka dasa with Ketu in it and argala from Mars. He became active in Mithuna dasha to loose the reputation because of Ke-Ma configuration. He did something which was considred as 'mistake' by many in this time as Ke was 2nd to dasha rashi with Paka rashi having Rahu made him to talk to German people. What I wonder is that inspite of Jupiter in 5th from Lagna and 3rd from AL, he did not understand Mahatmaji's principles. Possibly,Ju was not aspecting Lagna Lord! This is what I could read in first attempt. Actually, you should give such charts to those who are into Jyotish since long and have no Mars effects. Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Prabodh Ji, > > Namaskaar, group is thankful to you for ur contributions and > guidance, I need a personal favor from you, some 15 days back, I > wanted to post Netaji Shubhash Chandra Bosh's horoscope, I dont know > where i missed it, w'd request you to do an analysis of his chart and > mode of death. > > regards, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Prabodh Vekhande " > <amolmandar@> wrote: > > > > Chandrashekhar Ji Namaste > > > > I am really sorry for my quality of english. I will try again. I > did > > say that only Shubha(FB) can be RYK. That is if a graha has to lead > > to Rajyoga, it must satisfy some conditions. > > 1) It must be Shubha or Functional Benefic. > > 1.1) Shubha or FB means lord of 5th and 9th. > > 2) only 9th lord can lead to Rajyoga > > 3) This 9th lord( which is always Shubha or FB) must have some > > sambandha with 10th lord. > > 4) This 9th lord should not be with blemish. Blemish is for > behaving > > as Rajyogakarak and blemish does not mean loss of Shubhatva. > > 4.1) Blemish to 9th lord can be because of lordship of 3,6,8,11 > > simultaneously. > > 4.2) Blemish to 9th lord can be because of it 'Sambandha' with > 10th > > lord that has blemish. > > > > > > >Read together it does mean that a shubha is not so (what you > > > designate as FB) if blemished. > > > > No. Slight correction. Read together it means that Shubha is not > > Rajyogakaraka, if blemished. > > > > I hope this time I made no mistake in my english! > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > Jai Jai Shankar > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prabodh, > > > > > > I am really confused as to what you mean by FB and what is > shubha, > > > according to you. May be at my age the cryptic use of initials is > > too > > > much to grasp. But did you not say " I mean only Shubha (FB)can be > > > qualified as Rajyogakarak " ? and then that the shubhas should be > > without > > > blemish. Read together it does mean that a shubha is not so (what > > you > > > designate as FB) if blemished. But then my comprehension could be > > wrong. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji Namaste > > > > > > > > >So why the distinction between > > > > > Functional benefic not being yogakaraka and Shubha being so > at > > this > > > > > stage? > > > > > > > > There is no distinction from my side. Trikonesh(5th/9th) is FB > > (Shubha) > > > > but every FB(Shubha) is not YK. 9th lord along with 10th lord > can > > > > lead to YK. To avoid repetition BPHS has indicated many things > by > > > > necessary connotation though not expressed directly. That is the > > > > reason,why BPHS has not said anything about Shubha or Ashubha of > > > > shani for Budha's lagna. > > > > Like, since before describing specific lagna, it has discussed > in > > > > general Shubhashubha of Bhava-Bhavesh. In that it clearly says > > > > that " TrikoneshaH ShubhaH SmrutaH " . Keeping this in mind if > > > > intreprete shlokas of specific lagna we may get correct results. > > > > > > > > > > As regards to Laghu and Guru Parashari and their undisputed > > > > > > credibility I have nothing much to say but what about those > > > > portions > > > > > > of Guru Parashari which are not included in Laghu Parashari? > > > > Should > > > > > > we ignore them as we can dispute their credibility? > > > > > > > > Since you ignored this question what should we follow? Laghu > > > > Parashari or Guru Parahari? > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabodh, > > > > > > > > > > Can you make it clear as to what you meant by Benefic in the > > > > original > > > > > post, if not functional benefic? So why the distinction > between > > > > > Functional benefic not being yogakaraka and Shubha being so > at > > this > > > > > stage? I do not find any such distinction in the shlokas of > > BPHS. > > > > Do > > > > > you? If I remember right, Parashara says that for Mithuna > lagna > > > > only > > > > > Shukra is shubha. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar Ji Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > Should we not take general and specific rule into > > consideration? > > > > Like > > > > > > being RajYogakaraka is specific to being Shubha. I mean only > > > > Shubha > > > > > > (FB)can be qualified as Rajyogakarak(Lord of 9th and 10th > and > > > > their > > > > > > Sambandha). Secondly,these Shubha grahas should be without > > > > blemish. > > > > > > Blemish can be there(to be qualified not as RY) because of > > graha > > > > > > holding 3,6,8,11 as well. That is why for Mithuna Shani is > > Shubha > > > > (FB) > > > > > > but being 8th lord as well when gets associated with 10th > lord > > > > Guru > > > > > > does not lead to RY. > > > > > > > > > > > > So I see it as > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesha > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord Guru is Shubha and is 12th lord so qualifies as RYK > > > > > > 10th lord Shani is lord of 11th as well hence can not give > RYK > > > > even > > > > > > if involved with 9th lord Guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vrishabha > > > > > > Shani RYK as 9th and 10th lord > > > > > > Mithuna > > > > > > Shani is Shubha but being 8th lord can not lead to RYK even > if > > > > > > invloved with 10th lord Guru. > > > > > > Karka > > > > > > Guru is Benefic but RYK is only Mangal. Guru is 6th lord as > > well > > > > so > > > > > > not RYK status. > > > > > > Simha > > > > > > 9th lord Mangal is RYK but 10th lord Shukra is as well 3rd > > lord so > > > > > > its association with Mangal does not lead to RY. > > > > > > Kanya > > > > > > 9th lord is benefic and co-lord of 2nd hence RYK along with > > 10th > > > > lord > > > > > > Budha. > > > > > > Tula > > > > > > 9th lord is benefic and co-lord of 12th hence RYK along > with > > 10th > > > > > > lord Chandra . > > > > > > Vrichika > > > > > > Surya-Chandra RYK > > > > > > Dhanu > > > > > > Surya Budha RYK > > > > > > Makara > > > > > > 9th lord Budha is benefic but being 6th lord does not lead > to > > RYK > > > > > > Kumbha > > > > > > Shukar only RYK as 10th lord Mangal is 3rd lord as well > > > > > > Meena > > > > > > 9th lord is benefic and since takes 2nd lordship leads to > RYK > > > > along > > > > > > with 10th lord Guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > So what I understand by Parashara is that > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) > > > > > > Trikonesh(9th and 5th Lord) are alwyas Benefic but 9th lord > > may > > > > not > > > > > > lead to Rajyoga if owns (3,6,8,11). > > > > > > 2) > > > > > > When Lagnesh is NB and 6th lord(Shukra for Vrishabha),it is > > > > Ashubha > > > > > > and when it is NM and 6th lord(Mangal for Vrishcika),it is > > Sama- > > > > Shubha > > > > > > > > > > > > When Lagnesh is NB and 8th lord(Shukra for Tula),it is Sama- > > Shubha > > > > > > and when it is NM and 8th lord( Mangal for Mesha), it is > > Shubha. > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards to Laghu and Guru Parashari and their undisputed > > > > > > credibility I have nothing much to say but what about those > > > > portions > > > > > > of Guru Parashari which are not included in Laghu Parashari? > > > > Should > > > > > > we ignore them as we can dispute their credibility? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabodh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure that you are aware that Laghu Parashari was > always > > > > > > available > > > > > > > in manuscript form and also called Ududaya Pradeep. BPHS > was > > > > > > either > > > > > > > compilation of shlokas from various pandits who > remembered > > them > > > > or > > > > > > from > > > > > > > manuscripts that had different shloka amongst themselves. > > So it > > > > is > > > > > > safer > > > > > > > to go with What is available in Laghu Parashari from whose > > > > shloka I > > > > > > > quoted. The same also appears in most of the other > editions > > of > > > > BPHS > > > > > > and > > > > > > > does make sense. The reason is the following shloka: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > xmRkmaRixnetaraE rNØlaÉaixpaE yid, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dharmakarmädhinetärau randhraläbhädhipau yadi | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tyae> sMbNxmaÇe[ n yaeg< lÉte nr>.22. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tayoù sambandhamätreëa na yogaà labhate naraù ||22|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ _ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _If lord of the 9^th or 10^th are also lords of 8^th or > > 11^th > > > > these > > > > > > > associations do not give rise to (Raj) Yoga._ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure that even Deveshchandra Jha edition should have > > that > > > > > > shloka. > > > > > > > Here the malfeasance acquired by lord of the 9th due to > > > > > > simultaneously > > > > > > > owning the 8th or the 11th is made amply clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First it says > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Bhagyavyayadhiptyena randresho na shubhaprada " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord of the 8th is not auspicious, being 12th house > lord > > to > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > then it goes on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " lagnatrikonapavashat sa eva shubhado mataH " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if it(8th lord) is trikonesh as well,then it will > > become > > > > > > benefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is in Choukhanba Sanskrit Sansthan BPHS by > Devashandra > > Za. > > > > > > Atleast > > > > > > > > in this edition,we dont get a condition of 8th lord > > placement. > > > > > > Which > > > > > > > > one to read and follow? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabodh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read what Parashara says carefully, again. He says > that > > only > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > such a > > > > > > > > > graha is lagnesha and is placed in Lagna or the 8th > it > > is > > > > not > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > considered ashubha. He does not say about its being > > shubha > > > > only > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > the co-lord of the 9th or trine to it. I am pasting > the > > > > shloka, > > > > > > > > with its > > > > > > > > > approximate translation (as much is lost in English > > > > translation) > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > your ready reference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÉaGyVyaixpTyen rNØezae n zuÉàd>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhägyavyädhipatyena randhreço na çubhapradaù | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > s @v zuÉsNxata l¶axIzae=ip cet! Svym!.9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sa eva çubhasandhätä lagnädhéço'pi cet svayam ||9|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _Lord of the 8^th is not auspicious, being 12^th > house > > lord > > > > to > > > > > > 9^th > > > > > > > > > house. However if he is also Lord of lagna and > occupies > > > > Lagna or > > > > > > > > 8^th > > > > > > > > > house he gives benefic results._ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course if you are referring to any other shloka, > > please > > > > let > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > which shloka you are referring to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per Parashara, 8th lord if as well be trine lord > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > > considerd as Shubha. As per Parashara, 8th house is > > > > ashubha > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > is 12th to 9th the bhagya. So when 8th lord is > colord > > of > > > > 9th > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > trine > > > > > > > > > > to it, it does not affect badly to bhgaya and hence > > > > should be > > > > > > > > treated > > > > > > > > > > as Shubha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing% 40>, > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They are yet not treated as functional benefics, > for > > > > dasha > > > > > > > > > > analysis. The > > > > > > > > > > > results are mixed as you rightly deduce. > generally > > if > > > > the > > > > > > graha > > > > > > > > > > owns a > > > > > > > > > > > good house and another is the 6th or the 8th it > is > > not > > > > > > > > considered a > > > > > > > > > > > functional benefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group/Elders, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. correct/enhance following , if required - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) If one and same planet is lord of 1st and > > 8'th , > > > > eg - > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > Aries Asc and Venus for Libra Asc, is not > > considered > > > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) If one and same planet is lord of 5'th *and* > > 8'th > > > > eg - > > > > > > Jup > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > Leo Asc and Merc for Aquar Asc and placed in > 5'th > > *or > > > > > > *8'th > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > considered bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c) If on and same planet is lord of 8'th and > 9'th > > eg - > > > > > > Sat for > > > > > > > > > > Gemini > > > > > > > > > > > > Asc and placed in 9'th is not bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My View : Though not bad, but should not be > fully > > good > > > > > > also, > > > > > > > > > > mixed > > > > > > > > > > > > results we should derive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be posting exceptions to other houeses > > also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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