Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Hi All, I am sure all of you are aware that Mars is retrogade nowadays in the sign Gemini.In fact it has been so since 16th November.It will continue in retrogade motion till 31st January 2008,when it will be at the first degree of gemini and then continue in forward motion in the sign gemini.Thus it will be seen that Mars will traverse the same portion of the zodiac the second time in quick succession in Feb 2008 and onwards.It is mentioned in all astrological texts that a planet which traverses the same portion of the zodiac in quick succession after gaining forward motion from retrogation is very strong in giving results.Thus it appears that the earth is going to experience strong results from the violent and incendiary Mars from Feb 2008 onwards.In fact western astrologers in this context of retrogation and revised forward motion suggest that such planet gives the strongest results when stationary.I find from the ephemeris that Mars will practically be stationary from the 29th January to 3rd February.Thus in conclusion it would appear that violent phenomenon should be expected on earth during the period from 29th January to 3rd February and also till the 5th of April that is when Mars reaches the 18th degree of Gemini from which point it had turned retro.Now the question may be asked as to what kind of phenomenon and where on earth.Well gemini is an airy sign and represents the western direction.So i was wondering whether there is the possiblity of air strikes somewhere in the west,more air accidents than average etc.The question may be asked as to why Mars should be expected to give only malefic results in Gemini,why not benefic.The answer is simple,for Mars the sign gemini is an inimical sign,besides Mars being naturally malefic.What is more is that for Gemini ascendant,mars is 6th lord and 11th lord both relating to injury.That should explain the malefic nature of the results.However some would say that with the aspect of the great benefic Jupiter,Mars may not be expected to act so malefic.In fact at some stage during this movement of Mars it will also be aspected by venus from Sagittarius.However the point to be noted is that it is mutual or opposing aspect and Jupiter and venus will also be aspected by Mars in return.So Chandra,what should one make out of all this.I would love comments from all members on this issue.Regards to all RK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Rup if you look now, mars is aspect ed by sun and Jupiter. for Leo, Aries and Sagittarius. they are lord of 1,5 and 9. So there should be some auspicious events hpng for these folks.(Incl you) Mars is pretty weak in Gemini. but being aspect ed by Guru, the impact will be on Guru/Bud ha or Brahmin's or religious/spiritual people or students or banks or sub prime loans or commercial activities or justices or financial institutions. ( esp its aspect on Virgo ( finance) and Sagittarius ( justice department) ,Capricorn) If you take Around 10am , aug 14,1947 as Pakistan's independence , when Jinnah raised the flag of Pakistan. you get Virgo lagna and Mars is in Gemini. (Military domination). USA is also a Gemini country. primary election (dominated by lawyers and religious) may be decisive. There is a possibility of general elections in India also. Regards Sridhar Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Rup Krishen Baqaya " <baqayarup wrote: > > Hi All, I am sure all of you are aware that Mars is retrogade > nowadays in the sign Gemini.In fact it has been so since 16th > November.It will continue in retrogade motion till 31st January > 2008,when it will be at the first degree of gemini and then continue > in forward motion in the sign gemini.Thus it will be seen that Mars > will traverse the same portion of the zodiac the second time in quick > succession in Feb 2008 and onwards.It is mentioned in all astrological > texts that a planet which traverses the same portion of the zodiac in > quick succession after gaining forward motion from retrogation is very > strong in giving results.Thus it appears that the earth is going to > experience strong results from the violent and incendiary Mars from > Feb 2008 onwards.In fact western astrologers in this context of > retrogation and revised forward motion suggest that such planet gives > the strongest results when stationary.I find from the ephemeris that > Mars will practically be stationary from the 29th January to 3rd > February.Thus in conclusion it would appear that violent phenomenon > should be expected on earth during the period from 29th January to 3rd > February and also till the 5th of April that is when Mars reaches the > 18th degree of Gemini from which point it had turned retro.Now the > question may be asked as to what kind of phenomenon and where on > earth.Well gemini is an airy sign and represents the western > direction.So i was wondering whether there is the possiblity of air > strikes somewhere in the west,more air accidents than average etc.The > question may be asked as to why Mars should be expected to give only > malefic results in Gemini,why not benefic.The answer is simple,for > Mars the sign gemini is an inimical sign,besides Mars being naturally > malefic.What is more is that for Gemini ascendant,mars is 6th lord and > 11th lord both relating to injury.That should explain the malefic > nature of the results.However some would say that with the aspect of > the great benefic Jupiter,Mars may not be expected to act so > malefic.In fact at some stage during this movement of Mars it will > also be aspected by venus from Sagittarius.However the point to be > noted is that it is mutual or opposing aspect and Jupiter and venus > will also be aspected by Mars in return.So Chandra,what should one > make out of all this.I would love comments from all members on this > issue.Regards to all RK > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Dear Shri Baqaya, here's a mail i had written in the KNRao Group which i later fwd to the Jyotish Group too, later on 18th May, 2006. This refers to the matter under discussion per your mail. similar were my thoughts that it could all lead to some air mishaps around this crucial time, mars being in gemini. only time will tell what type of event will unfold now in the coming months taking into consideration other crucial planets transiting in 6/8 or 2/12 from such sensitive planets. regards mahalakshmi ************** Re: UK TRs - Explosions at Billingham Chemical Factory dear members these posts were on KNRaoJyotish where there was an ongoing discussion about saturn ketu meetings in 2007, 2008. london chemical factory explosion indeed is a sad and tragic event to have occured today. i want to share it with members of this list too. mahalakshmi mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi wrote: To: KNRaoJyotish mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi Thu, 18 May 2006 12:02:43 +0100 (BST) Re: [KNRaoJyotish] Re: 2007 2008 dear members, i am reading with interest about the outbreak of war or some calamity when saturn and ketu meet in leo. saturn and mars meetings are also not to be taken lightly. micheal, mars is in 27 and odd degrees in gem. or am i missing something here. saturn is at 12 and odd in karkat. there's a bloodbath at the stock markets today. looked to me as if saturn while having all the fun in the deep waters in karkat finds that mars is about to share the pool with him very soon, (18th june 2006). and even before he could wet his feet there's this hell breaking loose at the stock exchanges across the globe! with two fiery planets in deep waters its going to be some celestial swishing and stirring up of storms across the globe! will the waters of karkat cool these two fiery planets or get heated up instead. all those inactive volcanoes in and around large water bodies are going to get active, during the coming month around 18th june. there may be fireworks, but there's some consolation that there's enough water at hand to douse the fire, just in case..! having met in karkat they promise they will meet again in leo sometime during next year. saturn is keen on mid october of 2007 but mars being still tied up with things in gemini but not quite sure whether he should displease saturn requests ketu to proxy for him while deciding to join a little later. alas mars has some pressing jobs to be taken care of in gemini (from 18th sept '07 to april '08, fairly longish period, hmm looks ominous to me, hope mars does not spoil the 'airy' house significations of mercury) so he will not know what transpired between ketu and saturn until he and ketu meet up in karkat around 17th june 2008 to exchange notes. mars the army commander needs time for planning ahead what he wants to do when he meets up with saturn in leo on the 11th july, 2008 so he fixes such a place as ketu's homeground in makha as some consolation for ketu personally not being present during this dreaded meeting of 2 firebrands in an equally fiery rashi. lets hope they dont stir up anything serious as jupiter, though retrograde in his own house, in another fiery sign dhanus, casts his benign aspect on the house owner sun, by his direct and his ninth aspect on the two mischievous tenants in leo. let mankind keep its fingers crossed for good luck. mahalakshmi ************** Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Rup Krishen Baqaya " <baqayarup wrote: > > Hi All, I am sure all of you are aware that Mars is retrogade > nowadays in the sign Gemini.In fact it has been so since 16th > November.It will continue in retrogade motion till 31st January > 2008,when it will be at the first degree of gemini and then continue > in forward motion in the sign gemini.Thus it will be seen that Mars > will traverse the same portion of the zodiac the second time in quick > succession in Feb 2008 and onwards.It is mentioned in all astrological > texts that a planet which traverses the same portion of the zodiac in > quick succession after gaining forward motion from retrogation is very > strong in giving results.Thus it appears that the earth is going to > experience strong results from the violent and incendiary Mars from > Feb 2008 onwards.In fact western astrologers in this context of > retrogation and revised forward motion suggest that such planet gives > the strongest results when stationary.I find from the ephemeris that > Mars will practically be stationary from the 29th January to 3rd > February.Thus in conclusion it would appear that violent phenomenon > should be expected on earth during the period from 29th January to 3rd > February and also till the 5th of April that is when Mars reaches the > 18th degree of Gemini from which point it had turned retro.Now the > question may be asked as to what kind of phenomenon and where on > earth.Well gemini is an airy sign and represents the western > direction.So i was wondering whether there is the possiblity of air > strikes somewhere in the west,more air accidents than average etc.The > question may be asked as to why Mars should be expected to give only > malefic results in Gemini,why not benefic.The answer is simple,for > Mars the sign gemini is an inimical sign,besides Mars being naturally > malefic.What is more is that for Gemini ascendant,mars is 6th lord and > 11th lord both relating to injury.That should explain the malefic > nature of the results.However some would say that with the aspect of > the great benefic Jupiter,Mars may not be expected to act so > malefic.In fact at some stage during this movement of Mars it will > also be aspected by venus from Sagittarius.However the point to be > noted is that it is mutual or opposing aspect and Jupiter and venus > will also be aspected by Mars in return.So Chandra,what should one > make out of all this.I would love comments from all members on this > issue.Regards to all RK > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Dear Rup, This is really an excellent post. You are right on re-entry to earlier sign, or position, the effects are more prominent. The results of Mars opposing Jupiter do indicate Unmada and so we can see many terrorist attacks, people going berserk and killing for no reason etc. That is certain. At the time Mars is also aspected by Venus we may see crimes of passion or crimes like rapes followed by killings etc. It is also possible that water reservoirs or oil fields could become targets of the extremist elements. I would think that for collision in air or air attacks, it is more the Saturn - Mars connection that may be required. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Rup Krishen Baqaya wrote: Hi All, I am sure all of you are aware that Mars is retrogade nowadays in the sign Gemini.In fact it has been so since 16th November.It will continue in retrogade motion till 31st January 2008,when it will be at the first degree of gemini and then continue in forward motion in the sign gemini.Thus it will be seen that Mars will traverse the same portion of the zodiac the second time in quick succession in Feb 2008 and onwards.It is mentioned in all astrological texts that a planet which traverses the same portion of the zodiac in quick succession after gaining forward motion from retrogation is very strong in giving results.Thus it appears that the earth is going to experience strong results from the violent and incendiary Mars from Feb 2008 onwards.In fact western astrologers in this context of retrogation and revised forward motion suggest that such planet gives the strongest results when stationary.I find from the ephemeris that Mars will practically be stationary from the 29th January to 3rd February.Thus in conclusion it would appear that violent phenomenon should be expected on earth during the period from 29th January to 3rd February and also till the 5th of April that is when Mars reaches the 18th degree of Gemini from which point it had turned retro.Now the question may be asked as to what kind of phenomenon and where on earth.Well gemini is an airy sign and represents the western direction.So i was wondering whether there is the possiblity of air strikes somewhere in the west,more air accidents than average etc.The question may be asked as to why Mars should be expected to give only malefic results in Gemini,why not benefic.The answer is simple,for Mars the sign gemini is an inimical sign,besides Mars being naturally malefic.What is more is that for Gemini ascendant,mars is 6th lord and 11th lord both relating to injury.That should explain the malefic nature of the results.However some would say that with the aspect of the great benefic Jupiter,Mars may not be expected to act so malefic.In fact at some stage during this movement of Mars it will also be aspected by venus from Sagittarius.However the point to be noted is that it is mutual or opposing aspect and Jupiter and venus will also be aspected by Mars in return.So Chandra,what should one make out of all this.I would love comments from all members on this issue.Regards to all RK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Hello Rama ji, The language of your post shows that you are working or have worked in a Govt office.Is that correct. RK--- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " rama gopalakrishnan " <astromahaluxmi wrote: > > Dear Shri Baqaya, > > here's a mail i had written in the KNRao Group which i later fwd to > the Jyotish Group too, later on 18th May, 2006. > This refers to the matter under discussion per your mail. > similar were my thoughts that it could all lead to some air mishaps > around this crucial time, mars being in gemini. > only time will tell what type of event will unfold now in the coming > months taking into consideration other crucial planets transiting in > 6/8 or 2/12 from such sensitive planets. > regards > mahalakshmi > ************** > Re: UK TRs - Explosions at Billingham Chemical > Factory > > > dear members > these posts were on KNRaoJyotish where there was an ongoing > discussion about saturn ketu meetings in 2007, 2008. > london chemical factory explosion indeed is a sad and tragic event > to have occured today. > i want to share it with members of this list too. > mahalakshmi > > mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: To: > KNRaoJyotish > mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi@> > Thu, 18 May 2006 12:02:43 +0100 (BST) > Re: [KNRaoJyotish] Re: 2007 2008 > > dear members, > i am reading with interest about the outbreak of war or some > calamity when saturn and ketu meet in leo. saturn and mars meetings > are also not to be taken lightly. > > micheal, mars is in 27 and odd degrees in gem. or am i missing > something here. > saturn is at 12 and odd in karkat. > there's a bloodbath at the stock markets today. > > looked to me as if saturn while having all the fun in the deep > waters in karkat finds that mars is about to share the pool with him > very soon, (18th june 2006). and even before he could wet his feet > there's this hell breaking loose at the stock exchanges across the > globe! with two fiery planets in deep waters its going to be some > celestial swishing and stirring up of storms across the > globe! > will the waters of karkat cool these two fiery planets or get heated > up instead. all those inactive volcanoes in and around large water > bodies are going to get active, during the coming month around 18th > june. there may be fireworks, but there's some consolation that > there's enough water at hand to douse the fire, just in case..! > > having met in karkat they promise they will meet again in leo > sometime during next year. saturn is keen on mid october of 2007 but > mars being still tied up with things in gemini but not quite sure > whether he should displease saturn requests ketu to proxy for him > while deciding to join a little later. > > alas mars has some pressing jobs to be taken care of in gemini (from > 18th sept '07 to april '08, fairly longish period, hmm looks ominous > to me, hope mars does not spoil the 'airy' house significations of > mercury) so he will not know what transpired between ketu and saturn > until he and ketu meet up in karkat around 17th june 2008 to > exchange notes. > mars the army commander needs time for planning ahead what he wants > to do when he meets up with saturn in leo on the 11th july, 2008 so > he fixes such a place as ketu's homeground in makha as some > consolation for ketu personally not being present during this > dreaded meeting of 2 firebrands in an equally fiery rashi. > lets hope they dont stir up anything serious as jupiter, though > retrograde in his own house, in another fiery sign dhanus, casts his > benign aspect on the house owner sun, by his direct and his ninth > aspect on the two mischievous tenants in leo. > let mankind keep its fingers crossed for good luck. > mahalakshmi > > ************** > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Rup Krishen > Baqaya " <baqayarup@> wrote: > > > > Hi All, I am sure all of you are aware that Mars is retrogade > > nowadays in the sign Gemini.In fact it has been so since 16th > > November.It will continue in retrogade motion till 31st January > > 2008,when it will be at the first degree of gemini and then > continue > > in forward motion in the sign gemini.Thus it will be seen that Mars > > will traverse the same portion of the zodiac the second time in > quick > > succession in Feb 2008 and onwards.It is mentioned in all > astrological > > texts that a planet which traverses the same portion of the zodiac > in > > quick succession after gaining forward motion from retrogation is > very > > strong in giving results.Thus it appears that the earth is going to > > experience strong results from the violent and incendiary Mars from > > Feb 2008 onwards.In fact western astrologers in this context of > > retrogation and revised forward motion suggest that such planet > gives > > the strongest results when stationary.I find from the ephemeris > that > > Mars will practically be stationary from the 29th January to 3rd > > February.Thus in conclusion it would appear that violent phenomenon > > should be expected on earth during the period from 29th January to > 3rd > > February and also till the 5th of April that is when Mars reaches > the > > 18th degree of Gemini from which point it had turned retro.Now the > > question may be asked as to what kind of phenomenon and where on > > earth.Well gemini is an airy sign and represents the western > > direction.So i was wondering whether there is the possiblity of air > > strikes somewhere in the west,more air accidents than average > etc.The > > question may be asked as to why Mars should be expected to give > only > > malefic results in Gemini,why not benefic.The answer is simple,for > > Mars the sign gemini is an inimical sign,besides Mars being > naturally > > malefic.What is more is that for Gemini ascendant,mars is 6th lord > and > > 11th lord both relating to injury.That should explain the malefic > > nature of the results.However some would say that with the aspect > of > > the great benefic Jupiter,Mars may not be expected to act so > > malefic.In fact at some stage during this movement of Mars it will > > also be aspected by venus from Sagittarius.However the point to be > > noted is that it is mutual or opposing aspect and Jupiter and venus > > will also be aspected by Mars in return.So Chandra,what should one > > make out of all this.I would love comments from all members on this > > issue.Regards to all RK > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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