Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Dear Lalit, Its : " hari " <chandra_hari18 Best regards, Saaji Bhaskaran Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Saaji, > > Thanx a lot for ur mail and letting us know about Chandra Hari's > intentions. > > can u give his mail id, i w'd like to interact with him. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Saaji Bhaskaran " > <saajik@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > If I can have a word on the topic of north or south, especially > since > > I lived in Kerala for the first 20 years of my life and the rest 10 > > years I been in west and north. From my interactions, I find that > > while astrology been very important for the day to day life in > Kerala > > its not so with other places. My company was conducting 4 days > > rigorous yajna and homa each year for which reputed pundits from > > varanasi used to arrive and my colleague himself a learned pundit > > from varanasi I had a chance to understand the tradition of > varanasi. > > Like all other shastras, the importance of Varanasi in astrology > also > > very high. > > > > But in Kerala, unlike other places people have the habit of > > approaching astrologers for even silly problems. Due to its > religious > > side, it got more importance and the books like prashna marga and > > krishneeyam and the temples being connected to it for daiva > prashna, > > it gave many scholars and daivajnas. In the present time, since I > > been to these places, I can easily say that its in kerala only > > astrology and astrologers get this much respect. Also, my > experience > > is that unlike in other states (I haven't visited eastern side of > > India), Kerala has more astrologers and people generally believes > in > > astrology and think of it, incase of reversal of fate. > > > > But I believe that in the early times, north and varanasi side been > > the main place of astrology and it developed from there only. Which > > side and what is relatively unimportant, if non Indians excel in > > astrology in the 21st century, whats the use in saying Kerala or > > north India is the main place? > > > > * * * > > > > I had a chance to interact with Chandra Hari recently on his > > article `hindu-ahindu' where on most part he's spitting venom on > > brahmins and adi sankaracharya…I don't know what experience made > him > > concentrating all his energies on this part. He wants to prove that > > what all is here, its all dravideans contributions(you know what), > > not anyone else's. Whatever may be his intelligence or his abilities > > (which I also praise), from first two mails itself I felt his Rahu > > and Mars been very strong on the negative side. > > > > * * * > > > > Chandrashekhar ji's recent mail on pancha mahapurusha yoga explains > > it, and my 2 sents are the yoga lord's position in navamsa also > > matters and the dasa running should be favourable. My wife has 2 > > yogas, sasa and ruchaka, but she so far doesn't have even a job, > but > > my life prospers day by day. Jan 1 1983, 7.15PM, 75 E 34 11 N 50. > For > > another horoscope, Apr 21, 1979 12.05PM 76E14 9N58. See the hamsa > > yoga and excellent gaja kesari yoga, how do you analyse this > > horoscope ? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Dear Lalit, If Chandra Hari is doing what Saaji say he is (and there is no reason for Saaji to say something that is not so), that is very bad. Perhaps I was looking only at his theory with scholarly interest but you saw through the person. No person who respects knowledge would want to monopolize it for any region or caste or a group of people. Chandrashekhar. litsol wrote: Dear Saaji, Thanx a lot for ur mail and letting us know about Chandra Hari's intentions. can u give his mail id, i w'd like to interact with him. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Saaji Bhaskaran" <saajik wrote: > > Dear all, > > If I can have a word on the topic of north or south, especially since > I lived in Kerala for the first 20 years of my life and the rest 10 > years I been in west and north. From my interactions, I find that > while astrology been very important for the day to day life in Kerala > its not so with other places. My company was conducting 4 days > rigorous yajna and homa each year for which reputed pundits from > varanasi used to arrive and my colleague himself a learned pundit > from varanasi I had a chance to understand the tradition of varanasi. > Like all other shastras, the importance of Varanasi in astrology also > very high. > > But in Kerala, unlike other places people have the habit of > approaching astrologers for even silly problems. Due to its religious > side, it got more importance and the books like prashna marga and > krishneeyam and the temples being connected to it for daiva prashna, > it gave many scholars and daivajnas. In the present time, since I > been to these places, I can easily say that its in kerala only > astrology and astrologers get this much respect. Also, my experience > is that unlike in other states (I haven't visited eastern side of > India), Kerala has more astrologers and people generally believes in > astrology and think of it, incase of reversal of fate. > > But I believe that in the early times, north and varanasi side been > the main place of astrology and it developed from there only. Which > side and what is relatively unimportant, if non Indians excel in > astrology in the 21st century, whats the use in saying Kerala or > north India is the main place? > > * * * > > I had a chance to interact with Chandra Hari recently on his > article `hindu-ahindu' where on most part he's spitting venom on > brahmins and adi sankaracharya…I don't know what experience made him > concentrating all his energies on this part. He wants to prove that > what all is here, its all dravideans contributions(you know what), > not anyone else's. Whatever may be his intelligence or his abilities > (which I also praise), from first two mails itself I felt his Rahu > and Mars been very strong on the negative side. > > * * * > > Chandrashekhar ji's recent mail on pancha mahapurusha yoga explains > it, and my 2 sents are the yoga lord's position in navamsa also > matters and the dasa running should be favourable. My wife has 2 > yogas, sasa and ruchaka, but she so far doesn't have even a job, but > my life prospers day by day. Jan 1 1983, 7.15PM, 75 E 34 11 N 50. For > another horoscope, Apr 21, 1979 12.05PM 76E14 9N58. See the hamsa > yoga and excellent gaja kesari yoga, how do you analyse this > horoscope ? > > Best regards, > > Saaji Bhaskaran > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Dear Saji, Thanx again, I w'd try to change his mind first, sothat, he can use his talent for the good of the culture and country, if not so, I w'd hit his thoughts. Do u have any idea of Narayaneeyam, once somebody contacted me for this great book of Kerla. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > Its : " hari " <chandra_hari18 > > Best regards, > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > Dear Saaji, > > > > Thanx a lot for ur mail and letting us know about Chandra Hari's > > intentions. > > > > can u give his mail id, i w'd like to interact with him. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Saaji Bhaskaran " > > <saajik@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > If I can have a word on the topic of north or south, especially > > since > > > I lived in Kerala for the first 20 years of my life and the rest > 10 > > > years I been in west and north. From my interactions, I find that > > > while astrology been very important for the day to day life in > > Kerala > > > its not so with other places. My company was conducting 4 days > > > rigorous yajna and homa each year for which reputed pundits from > > > varanasi used to arrive and my colleague himself a learned pundit > > > from varanasi I had a chance to understand the tradition of > > varanasi. > > > Like all other shastras, the importance of Varanasi in astrology > > also > > > very high. > > > > > > But in Kerala, unlike other places people have the habit of > > > approaching astrologers for even silly problems. Due to its > > religious > > > side, it got more importance and the books like prashna marga and > > > krishneeyam and the temples being connected to it for daiva > > prashna, > > > it gave many scholars and daivajnas. In the present time, since I > > > been to these places, I can easily say that its in kerala only > > > astrology and astrologers get this much respect. Also, my > > experience > > > is that unlike in other states (I haven't visited eastern side of > > > India), Kerala has more astrologers and people generally believes > > in > > > astrology and think of it, incase of reversal of fate. > > > > > > But I believe that in the early times, north and varanasi side > been > > > the main place of astrology and it developed from there only. > Which > > > side and what is relatively unimportant, if non Indians excel in > > > astrology in the 21st century, whats the use in saying Kerala or > > > north India is the main place? > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > I had a chance to interact with Chandra Hari recently on his > > > article `hindu-ahindu' where on most part he's spitting venom on > > > brahmins and adi sankaracharya…I don't know what experience made > > him > > > concentrating all his energies on this part. He wants to prove > that > > > what all is here, its all dravideans contributions(you know > what), > > > not anyone else's. Whatever may be his intelligence or his > abilities > > > (which I also praise), from first two mails itself I felt his > Rahu > > > and Mars been very strong on the negative side. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji's recent mail on pancha mahapurusha yoga > explains > > > it, and my 2 sents are the yoga lord's position in navamsa also > > > matters and the dasa running should be favourable. My wife has 2 > > > yogas, sasa and ruchaka, but she so far doesn't have even a job, > > but > > > my life prospers day by day. Jan 1 1983, 7.15PM, 75 E 34 11 N 50. > > For > > > another horoscope, Apr 21, 1979 12.05PM 76E14 9N58. See the hamsa > > > yoga and excellent gaja kesari yoga, how do you analyse this > > > horoscope ? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dear Lalit, Here are some of the URLs Intro: http://www.narayaneeyam.com/ (please see read about) Sanskrit & Tamil: http://sanskritdocuments.org/sites/completenarayaneeyam/sansDownload.h tm Sanskrit PDF Download: http://sanskritdocuments.org/sites/completenarayaneeyam/NarayaneeyamSa ns.pdf And here is complete 1036 shlokas, translation and audio: http://www.geocities.com/completenarayaneeyam/-welcome1.htm? qid=200728 Best regards, Saaji Bhaskaran Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Saji, > > Thanx again, I w'd try to change his mind first, sothat, he can use > his talent for the good of the culture and country, if not so, I w'd > hit his thoughts. > > Do u have any idea of Narayaneeyam, once somebody contacted me for > this great book of Kerla. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Saaji Bhaskaran " > <saajik@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > Its : " hari " <chandra_hari18@> > > > > Best regards, > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Saaji, > > > > > > Thanx a lot for ur mail and letting us know about Chandra Hari's > > > intentions. > > > > > > can u give his mail id, i w'd like to interact with him. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Saaji > Bhaskaran " > > > <saajik@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > If I can have a word on the topic of north or south, especially > > > since > > > > I lived in Kerala for the first 20 years of my life and the > rest > > 10 > > > > years I been in west and north. From my interactions, I find > that > > > > while astrology been very important for the day to day life in > > > Kerala > > > > its not so with other places. My company was conducting 4 days > > > > rigorous yajna and homa each year for which reputed pundits > from > > > > varanasi used to arrive and my colleague himself a learned > pundit > > > > from varanasi I had a chance to understand the tradition of > > > varanasi. > > > > Like all other shastras, the importance of Varanasi in > astrology > > > also > > > > very high. > > > > > > > > But in Kerala, unlike other places people have the habit of > > > > approaching astrologers for even silly problems. Due to its > > > religious > > > > side, it got more importance and the books like prashna marga > and > > > > krishneeyam and the temples being connected to it for daiva > > > prashna, > > > > it gave many scholars and daivajnas. In the present time, since > I > > > > been to these places, I can easily say that its in kerala only > > > > astrology and astrologers get this much respect. Also, my > > > experience > > > > is that unlike in other states (I haven't visited eastern side > of > > > > India), Kerala has more astrologers and people generally > believes > > > in > > > > astrology and think of it, incase of reversal of fate. > > > > > > > > But I believe that in the early times, north and varanasi side > > been > > > > the main place of astrology and it developed from there only. > > Which > > > > side and what is relatively unimportant, if non Indians excel > in > > > > astrology in the 21st century, whats the use in saying Kerala > or > > > > north India is the main place? > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > I had a chance to interact with Chandra Hari recently on his > > > > article `hindu-ahindu' where on most part he's spitting venom > on > > > > brahmins and adi sankaracharya…I don't know what experience > made > > > him > > > > concentrating all his energies on this part. He wants to prove > > that > > > > what all is here, its all dravideans contributions(you know > > what), > > > > not anyone else's. Whatever may be his intelligence or his > > abilities > > > > (which I also praise), from first two mails itself I felt his > > Rahu > > > > and Mars been very strong on the negative side. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji's recent mail on pancha mahapurusha yoga > > explains > > > > it, and my 2 sents are the yoga lord's position in navamsa also > > > > matters and the dasa running should be favourable. My wife has > 2 > > > > yogas, sasa and ruchaka, but she so far doesn't have even a > job, > > > but > > > > my life prospers day by day. Jan 1 1983, 7.15PM, 75 E 34 11 N > 50. > > > For > > > > another horoscope, Apr 21, 1979 12.05PM 76E14 9N58. See the > hamsa > > > > yoga and excellent gaja kesari yoga, how do you analyse this > > > > horoscope ? > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 On the subject of Kerala, one of the major reasons , there is so many rituals in kerala is becoz it was never occupied by other religions rulers. the conversion to christianity,islam and jewish was voluntary. So many of the traditions/rituals ( probably without or with its correct understanding) of original Hindu Gupta-ruled India survived in kerala. there are 2 true stories related to this I am pretty sure that many of you know story of Kipling ( & later macualauy) traveling from Madras to calcutta a distance of over 1000 Miles and he found that priests in both places chanting the same sanskrit slokas with no change in pronunciation and explaining same meaning even though they were ruled by different kings and different mother tongue. So shocked that he predicted and verified that people in Kashmir also follow the same rituals as in kanyakumari. (Note:- In 17th century between rome to paris to london a distance of 500 Miles, there are more than 10 languauges and religion and culture) Second one was Swami Vivekananda that kerala was a land of lunatics becoz of so much importance to caste and untouchable's. In almost all states from Tamil Nadu to assam who will find temples destroyed or mosques/churches build along the temples. but not in kerala. Portuguese's did destroy some temples along coasts to loot but did not do much construction. and also remember that in all war and looting, easiest people to kill are children, women and scholars. so many with original knowledge died in the north, central and east for centuries. This is all the more tragic as all knowledge is passed from Guru to Shishya in the form of memorizing and not written. Regards Sridhar Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > If Chandra Hari is doing what Saaji say he is (and there is no reason > for Saaji to say something that is not so), that is very bad. Perhaps I > was looking only at his theory with scholarly interest but you saw > through the person. No person who respects knowledge would want to > monopolize it for any region or caste or a group of people. > > Chandrashekhar. > > litsol wrote: > > > > Dear Saaji, > > > > Thanx a lot for ur mail and letting us know about Chandra Hari's > > intentions. > > > > can u give his mail id, i w'd like to interact with him. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " Saaji Bhaskaran " > > <saajik@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > If I can have a word on the topic of north or south, especially > > since > > > I lived in Kerala for the first 20 years of my life and the rest 10 > > > years I been in west and north. From my interactions, I find that > > > while astrology been very important for the day to day life in > > Kerala > > > its not so with other places. My company was conducting 4 days > > > rigorous yajna and homa each year for which reputed pundits from > > > varanasi used to arrive and my colleague himself a learned pundit > > > from varanasi I had a chance to understand the tradition of > > varanasi. > > > Like all other shastras, the importance of Varanasi in astrology > > also > > > very high. > > > > > > But in Kerala, unlike other places people have the habit of > > > approaching astrologers for even silly problems. Due to its > > religious > > > side, it got more importance and the books like prashna marga and > > > krishneeyam and the temples being connected to it for daiva > > prashna, > > > it gave many scholars and daivajnas. In the present time, since I > > > been to these places, I can easily say that its in kerala only > > > astrology and astrologers get this much respect. Also, my > > experience > > > is that unlike in other states (I haven't visited eastern side of > > > India), Kerala has more astrologers and people generally believes > > in > > > astrology and think of it, incase of reversal of fate. > > > > > > But I believe that in the early times, north and varanasi side been > > > the main place of astrology and it developed from there only. Which > > > side and what is relatively unimportant, if non Indians excel in > > > astrology in the 21st century, whats the use in saying Kerala or > > > north India is the main place? > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > I had a chance to interact with Chandra Hari recently on his > > > article `hindu-ahindu' where on most part he's spitting venom on > > > brahmins and adi sankaracharya...I don't know what experience made > > him > > > concentrating all his energies on this part. He wants to prove that > > > what all is here, its all dravideans contributions(you know what), > > > not anyone else's. Whatever may be his intelligence or his abilities > > > (which I also praise), from first two mails itself I felt his Rahu > > > and Mars been very strong on the negative side. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji's recent mail on pancha mahapurusha yoga explains > > > it, and my 2 sents are the yoga lord's position in navamsa also > > > matters and the dasa running should be favourable. My wife has 2 > > > yogas, sasa and ruchaka, but she so far doesn't have even a job, > > but > > > my life prospers day by day. Jan 1 1983, 7.15PM, 75 E 34 11 N 50. > > For > > > another horoscope, Apr 21, 1979 12.05PM 76E14 9N58. See the hamsa > > > yoga and excellent gaja kesari yoga, how do you analyse this > > > horoscope ? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dear Chandrashekhar ji ,Saaji and all As i have mentioned to you before,i have found from experience that some groups and individuals are totally against brahmins while some others are totally against non brahmins.So is the case with north/south divide.Similarly there are some individuals who cannot accept learned souls because of their western origin.Politically biased analysis is another behavioural pattern commonly observed. As it is very difficult and a time consuming process to convince and debate ,especially as own ideologies are equally great and important for respective followers,i generally concentrate on astrology in astrology lits(the very purpose for which i am here) and avoid/ignore other areas. Similar to what you have mentioned to Saaji,i generally take what is important for objective learning with an open mind and neglect the rest. I hope it is clear from my mails that i cannot agree with anyone who rates human beings based on their caste,living circumatances/conditions and region/locality.This tendency is visibly present in the writings of some individuals(falling in opposite camps) expressed in crude(prakrit)language. I am proud of kerala and its heritage(as it is my mother land) but this does not make me blind to see the merit in other regions and human beings.As learned from experienced souls like you,knowledge is universal and omnipresent. Wishing all a great year and prosperous time ahead. Respect Pradeep Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > If Chandra Hari is doing what Saaji say he is (and there is no reason > for Saaji to say something that is not so), that is very bad. Perhaps I > was looking only at his theory with scholarly interest but you saw > through the person. No person who respects knowledge would want to > monopolize it for any region or caste or a group of people. > > Chandrashekhar. > > litsol wrote: > > > > Dear Saaji, > > > > Thanx a lot for ur mail and letting us know about Chandra Hari's > > intentions. > > > > can u give his mail id, i w'd like to interact with him. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " Saaji Bhaskaran " > > <saajik@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > If I can have a word on the topic of north or south, especially > > since > > > I lived in Kerala for the first 20 years of my life and the rest 10 > > > years I been in west and north. From my interactions, I find that > > > while astrology been very important for the day to day life in > > Kerala > > > its not so with other places. My company was conducting 4 days > > > rigorous yajna and homa each year for which reputed pundits from > > > varanasi used to arrive and my colleague himself a learned pundit > > > from varanasi I had a chance to understand the tradition of > > varanasi. > > > Like all other shastras, the importance of Varanasi in astrology > > also > > > very high. > > > > > > But in Kerala, unlike other places people have the habit of > > > approaching astrologers for even silly problems. Due to its > > religious > > > side, it got more importance and the books like prashna marga and > > > krishneeyam and the temples being connected to it for daiva > > prashna, > > > it gave many scholars and daivajnas. In the present time, since I > > > been to these places, I can easily say that its in kerala only > > > astrology and astrologers get this much respect. Also, my > > experience > > > is that unlike in other states (I haven't visited eastern side of > > > India), Kerala has more astrologers and people generally believes > > in > > > astrology and think of it, incase of reversal of fate. > > > > > > But I believe that in the early times, north and varanasi side been > > > the main place of astrology and it developed from there only. Which > > > side and what is relatively unimportant, if non Indians excel in > > > astrology in the 21st century, whats the use in saying Kerala or > > > north India is the main place? > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > I had a chance to interact with Chandra Hari recently on his > > > article `hindu-ahindu' where on most part he's spitting venom on > > > brahmins and adi sankaracharya...I don't know what experience made > > him > > > concentrating all his energies on this part. He wants to prove that > > > what all is here, its all dravideans contributions(you know what), > > > not anyone else's. Whatever may be his intelligence or his abilities > > > (which I also praise), from first two mails itself I felt his Rahu > > > and Mars been very strong on the negative side. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji's recent mail on pancha mahapurusha yoga explains > > > it, and my 2 sents are the yoga lord's position in navamsa also > > > matters and the dasa running should be favourable. My wife has 2 > > > yogas, sasa and ruchaka, but she so far doesn't have even a job, > > but > > > my life prospers day by day. Jan 1 1983, 7.15PM, 75 E 34 11 N 50. > > For > > > another horoscope, Apr 21, 1979 12.05PM 76E14 9N58. See the hamsa > > > yoga and excellent gaja kesari yoga, how do you analyse this > > > horoscope ? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dear Pradeep, The only thing I can say is that " nAsti jnAnAt param sukham " there is no happiness above knowledge. People blessed with high intelligence are rare and still rare is one who has interest in these subjects (astrology, religious texts etc) and even rare is one who can devote time for these subjects. And we know that one never gets respect if one manipulates knowledge. Personally I also dont see these things...Incase if the logic appeals to me and the argument is convicing and gets results, no matter I also will go for it. But I am a bit rigid, since I get it right in Lahiri, in this short life there is no need for another ayanamsa. And you know better, ayanamsa is a sensitive subject. Dr Raman proved that his ayanamsa is correct, Chandra hari may prove that his ayanamsa is correct, one using 360 days or 365 gets also correct results , with various dasa systems also one see it right and again with a slight change in ayanamsa one may reach right conclusion. pramANa is something which is correct in all 3 periods. (past, present and future) and establishing something like ayanamsa in this way is not an easy task, so I leave it to better people, while I stay with 'my' Lahiri. :- ) * * * For all of you. Rup sir sent a mail earlier for Mars' transit. And its voilent results. Though the present conditions in Pakistan is earlier than what he wrote, its surely connected. Earlier I had seen these things happen pretty earlier or late than the period mentioned. And God knows what, my Pakistani friends and colleagues say the present conditions are too much sensitive. With India and Pakistan still under 7.5 years sani cycle, I am afraid these wont stop easily. With India ordering its army to be vigilent, the quesion is what next. Best regards, Saaji Bhaskaran Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji ,Saaji and all > > As i have mentioned to you before,i have found from experience that > some groups and individuals are totally against brahmins while some > others are totally against non brahmins.So is the case with > north/south divide.Similarly there are some individuals who cannot > accept learned souls because of their western origin.Politically > biased analysis is another behavioural pattern commonly observed. > > As it is very difficult and a time consuming process to convince and > debate ,especially as own ideologies are equally great and important > for respective followers,i generally concentrate on astrology in > astrology lits(the very purpose for which i am here) and > avoid/ignore other areas. > > Similar to what you have mentioned to Saaji,i generally take what is > important for objective learning with an open mind and neglect the > rest. > > I hope it is clear from my mails that i cannot agree with anyone who > rates human beings based on their caste,living > circumatances/conditions and region/locality.This tendency is > visibly present in the writings of some individuals(falling in > opposite camps) expressed in crude(prakrit)language. > > I am proud of kerala and its heritage(as it is my mother land) but > this does not make me blind to see the merit in other regions and > human beings.As learned from experienced souls like you,knowledge is > universal and omnipresent. > > Wishing all a great year and prosperous time ahead. > > Respect > Pradeep > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > If Chandra Hari is doing what Saaji say he is (and there is no > reason > > for Saaji to say something that is not so), that is very bad. > Perhaps I > > was looking only at his theory with scholarly interest but you saw > > through the person. No person who respects knowledge would want to > > monopolize it for any region or caste or a group of people. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > Dear Saaji, > > > > > > Thanx a lot for ur mail and letting us know about Chandra Hari's > > > intentions. > > > > > > can u give his mail id, i w'd like to interact with him. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " Saaji > Bhaskaran " > > > <saajik@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > If I can have a word on the topic of north or south, especially > > > since > > > > I lived in Kerala for the first 20 years of my life and the > rest 10 > > > > years I been in west and north. From my interactions, I find > that > > > > while astrology been very important for the day to day life in > > > Kerala > > > > its not so with other places. My company was conducting 4 days > > > > rigorous yajna and homa each year for which reputed pundits > from > > > > varanasi used to arrive and my colleague himself a learned > pundit > > > > from varanasi I had a chance to understand the tradition of > > > varanasi. > > > > Like all other shastras, the importance of Varanasi in > astrology > > > also > > > > very high. > > > > > > > > But in Kerala, unlike other places people have the habit of > > > > approaching astrologers for even silly problems. Due to its > > > religious > > > > side, it got more importance and the books like prashna marga > and > > > > krishneeyam and the temples being connected to it for daiva > > > prashna, > > > > it gave many scholars and daivajnas. In the present time, > since I > > > > been to these places, I can easily say that its in kerala only > > > > astrology and astrologers get this much respect. Also, my > > > experience > > > > is that unlike in other states (I haven't visited eastern side > of > > > > India), Kerala has more astrologers and people generally > believes > > > in > > > > astrology and think of it, incase of reversal of fate. > > > > > > > > But I believe that in the early times, north and varanasi side > been > > > > the main place of astrology and it developed from there only. > Which > > > > side and what is relatively unimportant, if non Indians excel > in > > > > astrology in the 21st century, whats the use in saying Kerala > or > > > > north India is the main place? > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > I had a chance to interact with Chandra Hari recently on his > > > > article `hindu-ahindu' where on most part he's spitting venom > on > > > > brahmins and adi sankaracharya...I don't know what experience > made > > > him > > > > concentrating all his energies on this part. He wants to prove > that > > > > what all is here, its all dravideans contributions(you know > what), > > > > not anyone else's. Whatever may be his intelligence or his > abilities > > > > (which I also praise), from first two mails itself I felt his > Rahu > > > > and Mars been very strong on the negative side. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji's recent mail on pancha mahapurusha yoga > explains > > > > it, and my 2 sents are the yoga lord's position in navamsa also > > > > matters and the dasa running should be favourable. My wife has > 2 > > > > yogas, sasa and ruchaka, but she so far doesn't have even a > job, > > > but > > > > my life prospers day by day. Jan 1 1983, 7.15PM, 75 E 34 11 N > 50. > > > For > > > > another horoscope, Apr 21, 1979 12.05PM 76E14 9N58. See the > hamsa > > > > yoga and excellent gaja kesari yoga, how do you analyse this > > > > horoscope ? > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dear Saji We know each other since some time and i respect your knowledge and words.Yes regarding time i agree with your views. I am experimenting a lot with 360 savana days and others might have other views:-). But i respect the words of K.N.Raoji.When i had asked about 360 deg 360 days ,He said -Pradeep work and find it for yourself and beleive only after enough experimentation. He neither asked me to follow his 360 degree or supported my views regarding 360 days. Happy new year Pardeep Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > The only thing I can say is that " nAsti jnAnAt param sukham " there is > no happiness above knowledge. People blessed with high intelligence > are rare and still rare is one who has interest in these subjects > (astrology, religious texts etc) and even rare is one who can devote > time for these subjects. And we know that one never gets respect if > one manipulates knowledge. > > Personally I also dont see these things...Incase if the logic appeals > to me and the argument is convicing and gets results, no matter I > also will go for it. But I am a bit rigid, since I get it right in > Lahiri, in this short life there is no need for another ayanamsa. And > you know better, ayanamsa is a sensitive subject. Dr Raman proved > that his ayanamsa is correct, Chandra hari may prove that his > ayanamsa is correct, one using 360 days or 365 gets also correct > results , with various dasa systems also one see it right and again > with a slight change in ayanamsa one may reach right conclusion. > pramANa is something which is correct in all 3 periods. (past, > present and future) and establishing something like ayanamsa in this > way is not an easy task, so I leave it to better people, while I stay > with 'my' Lahiri. :- ) > > * * * > > For all of you. Rup sir sent a mail earlier for Mars' transit. And > its voilent results. Though the present conditions in Pakistan is > earlier than what he wrote, its surely connected. Earlier I had seen > these things happen pretty earlier or late than the period mentioned. > And God knows what, my Pakistani friends and colleagues say the > present conditions are too much sensitive. With India and Pakistan > still under 7.5 years sani cycle, I am afraid these wont stop easily. > With India ordering its army to be vigilent, the quesion is what next. > > Best regards, > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji ,Saaji and all > > > > As i have mentioned to you before,i have found from experience that > > some groups and individuals are totally against brahmins while some > > others are totally against non brahmins.So is the case with > > north/south divide.Similarly there are some individuals who cannot > > accept learned souls because of their western origin.Politically > > biased analysis is another behavioural pattern commonly observed. > > > > As it is very difficult and a time consuming process to convince > and > > debate ,especially as own ideologies are equally great and > important > > for respective followers,i generally concentrate on astrology in > > astrology lits(the very purpose for which i am here) and > > avoid/ignore other areas. > > > > Similar to what you have mentioned to Saaji,i generally take what > is > > important for objective learning with an open mind and neglect the > > rest. > > > > I hope it is clear from my mails that i cannot agree with anyone > who > > rates human beings based on their caste,living > > circumatances/conditions and region/locality.This tendency is > > visibly present in the writings of some individuals(falling in > > opposite camps) expressed in crude(prakrit)language. > > > > I am proud of kerala and its heritage(as it is my mother land) but > > this does not make me blind to see the merit in other regions and > > human beings.As learned from experienced souls like you,knowledge > is > > universal and omnipresent. > > > > Wishing all a great year and prosperous time ahead. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > If Chandra Hari is doing what Saaji say he is (and there is no > > reason > > > for Saaji to say something that is not so), that is very bad. > > Perhaps I > > > was looking only at his theory with scholarly interest but you > saw > > > through the person. No person who respects knowledge would want > to > > > monopolize it for any region or caste or a group of people. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Saaji, > > > > > > > > Thanx a lot for ur mail and letting us know about Chandra Hari's > > > > intentions. > > > > > > > > can u give his mail id, i w'd like to interact with him. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " Saaji > > Bhaskaran " > > > > <saajik@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > If I can have a word on the topic of north or south, > especially > > > > since > > > > > I lived in Kerala for the first 20 years of my life and the > > rest 10 > > > > > years I been in west and north. From my interactions, I find > > that > > > > > while astrology been very important for the day to day life in > > > > Kerala > > > > > its not so with other places. My company was conducting 4 days > > > > > rigorous yajna and homa each year for which reputed pundits > > from > > > > > varanasi used to arrive and my colleague himself a learned > > pundit > > > > > from varanasi I had a chance to understand the tradition of > > > > varanasi. > > > > > Like all other shastras, the importance of Varanasi in > > astrology > > > > also > > > > > very high. > > > > > > > > > > But in Kerala, unlike other places people have the habit of > > > > > approaching astrologers for even silly problems. Due to its > > > > religious > > > > > side, it got more importance and the books like prashna marga > > and > > > > > krishneeyam and the temples being connected to it for daiva > > > > prashna, > > > > > it gave many scholars and daivajnas. In the present time, > > since I > > > > > been to these places, I can easily say that its in kerala only > > > > > astrology and astrologers get this much respect. Also, my > > > > experience > > > > > is that unlike in other states (I haven't visited eastern > side > > of > > > > > India), Kerala has more astrologers and people generally > > believes > > > > in > > > > > astrology and think of it, incase of reversal of fate. > > > > > > > > > > But I believe that in the early times, north and varanasi > side > > been > > > > > the main place of astrology and it developed from there only. > > Which > > > > > side and what is relatively unimportant, if non Indians excel > > in > > > > > astrology in the 21st century, whats the use in saying Kerala > > or > > > > > north India is the main place? > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > I had a chance to interact with Chandra Hari recently on his > > > > > article `hindu-ahindu' where on most part he's spitting venom > > on > > > > > brahmins and adi sankaracharya...I don't know what experience > > made > > > > him > > > > > concentrating all his energies on this part. He wants to > prove > > that > > > > > what all is here, its all dravideans contributions(you know > > what), > > > > > not anyone else's. Whatever may be his intelligence or his > > abilities > > > > > (which I also praise), from first two mails itself I felt his > > Rahu > > > > > and Mars been very strong on the negative side. > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji's recent mail on pancha mahapurusha yoga > > explains > > > > > it, and my 2 sents are the yoga lord's position in navamsa > also > > > > > matters and the dasa running should be favourable. My wife > has > > 2 > > > > > yogas, sasa and ruchaka, but she so far doesn't have even a > > job, > > > > but > > > > > my life prospers day by day. Jan 1 1983, 7.15PM, 75 E 34 11 N > > 50. > > > > For > > > > > another horoscope, Apr 21, 1979 12.05PM 76E14 9N58. See the > > hamsa > > > > > yoga and excellent gaja kesari yoga, how do you analyse this > > > > > horoscope ? > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Dear Pradeep, I think I couldnt explain what I wanted to convey. I been using 360 / 365 days, what at the time of opening a chart I feel. I followed brihat jataka but I didnt use his moola dasa or naisargika dasa. Classical authors(unlike these days, they been greatest astrologers also) talk about 360 / 365 days, and where praMANa has not been fixed (thats a consensus not been reached), there one follows one's guru. Thats all. Regarding ayanamsa, you know how Lahiri ayanamsa was fixed, and reached a consensus among scholars. The discussions I had seen and my experience shows its more accurate. But like other matters, with other ayanamsa also one may get results, testing it and accepting it as a praMANa requires that much labour. So you cant do it with 200 or 500 horoscopes. Do you have this much time? I respect you knowledge, and disagreeing on this topic doesnt mean it otherwise. :-) It was so nice to see you on orkut, I wish you all the best in your new job. And wish you and your family a great year 2008. Best regards, Saaji Bhaskaran Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Saji > > We know each other since some time and i respect your knowledge and > words.Yes regarding time i agree with your views. > > I am experimenting a lot with 360 savana days and others might have > other views:-). > > But i respect the words of K.N.Raoji.When i had asked about 360 deg > 360 days ,He said -Pradeep work and find it for yourself and beleive > only after enough experimentation. > He neither asked me to follow his 360 degree or supported my views > regarding 360 days. > > Happy new year > Pardeep > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Saaji Bhaskaran " > <saajik@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > The only thing I can say is that " nAsti jnAnAt param sukham " there > is > > no happiness above knowledge. People blessed with high > intelligence > > are rare and still rare is one who has interest in these subjects > > (astrology, religious texts etc) and even rare is one who can > devote > > time for these subjects. And we know that one never gets respect > if > > one manipulates knowledge. > > > > Personally I also dont see these things...Incase if the logic > appeals > > to me and the argument is convicing and gets results, no matter I > > also will go for it. But I am a bit rigid, since I get it right in > > Lahiri, in this short life there is no need for another ayanamsa. > And > > you know better, ayanamsa is a sensitive subject. Dr Raman proved > > that his ayanamsa is correct, Chandra hari may prove that his > > ayanamsa is correct, one using 360 days or 365 gets also correct > > results , with various dasa systems also one see it right and > again > > with a slight change in ayanamsa one may reach right conclusion. > > pramANa is something which is correct in all 3 periods. (past, > > present and future) and establishing something like ayanamsa in > this > > way is not an easy task, so I leave it to better people, while I > stay > > with 'my' Lahiri. :- ) > > > > * * * > > > > For all of you. Rup sir sent a mail earlier for Mars' transit. And > > its voilent results. Though the present conditions in Pakistan is > > earlier than what he wrote, its surely connected. Earlier I had > seen > > these things happen pretty earlier or late than the period > mentioned. > > And God knows what, my Pakistani friends and colleagues say the > > present conditions are too much sensitive. With India and Pakistan > > still under 7.5 years sani cycle, I am afraid these wont stop > easily. > > With India ordering its army to be vigilent, the quesion is what > next. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji ,Saaji and all > > > > > > As i have mentioned to you before,i have found from experience > that > > > some groups and individuals are totally against brahmins while > some > > > others are totally against non brahmins.So is the case with > > > north/south divide.Similarly there are some individuals who > cannot > > > accept learned souls because of their western origin.Politically > > > biased analysis is another behavioural pattern commonly observed. > > > > > > As it is very difficult and a time consuming process to convince > > and > > > debate ,especially as own ideologies are equally great and > > important > > > for respective followers,i generally concentrate on astrology in > > > astrology lits(the very purpose for which i am here) and > > > avoid/ignore other areas. > > > > > > Similar to what you have mentioned to Saaji,i generally take > what > > is > > > important for objective learning with an open mind and neglect > the > > > rest. > > > > > > I hope it is clear from my mails that i cannot agree with anyone > > who > > > rates human beings based on their caste,living > > > circumatances/conditions and region/locality.This tendency is > > > visibly present in the writings of some individuals(falling in > > > opposite camps) expressed in crude(prakrit)language. > > > > > > I am proud of kerala and its heritage(as it is my mother land) > but > > > this does not make me blind to see the merit in other regions > and > > > human beings.As learned from experienced souls like > you,knowledge > > is > > > universal and omnipresent. > > > > > > Wishing all a great year and prosperous time ahead. > > > > > > Respect > > > Pradeep > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > If Chandra Hari is doing what Saaji say he is (and there is no > > > reason > > > > for Saaji to say something that is not so), that is very bad. > > > Perhaps I > > > > was looking only at his theory with scholarly interest but you > > saw > > > > through the person. No person who respects knowledge would > want > > to > > > > monopolize it for any region or caste or a group of people. > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Saaji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a lot for ur mail and letting us know about Chandra > Hari's > > > > > intentions. > > > > > > > > > > can u give his mail id, i w'd like to interact with him. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " Saaji > > > Bhaskaran " > > > > > <saajik@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > If I can have a word on the topic of north or south, > > especially > > > > > since > > > > > > I lived in Kerala for the first 20 years of my life and > the > > > rest 10 > > > > > > years I been in west and north. From my interactions, I > find > > > that > > > > > > while astrology been very important for the day to day > life in > > > > > Kerala > > > > > > its not so with other places. My company was conducting 4 > days > > > > > > rigorous yajna and homa each year for which reputed > pundits > > > from > > > > > > varanasi used to arrive and my colleague himself a learned > > > pundit > > > > > > from varanasi I had a chance to understand the tradition of > > > > > varanasi. > > > > > > Like all other shastras, the importance of Varanasi in > > > astrology > > > > > also > > > > > > very high. > > > > > > > > > > > > But in Kerala, unlike other places people have the habit of > > > > > > approaching astrologers for even silly problems. Due to its > > > > > religious > > > > > > side, it got more importance and the books like prashna > marga > > > and > > > > > > krishneeyam and the temples being connected to it for daiva > > > > > prashna, > > > > > > it gave many scholars and daivajnas. In the present time, > > > since I > > > > > > been to these places, I can easily say that its in kerala > only > > > > > > astrology and astrologers get this much respect. Also, my > > > > > experience > > > > > > is that unlike in other states (I haven't visited eastern > > side > > > of > > > > > > India), Kerala has more astrologers and people generally > > > believes > > > > > in > > > > > > astrology and think of it, incase of reversal of fate. > > > > > > > > > > > > But I believe that in the early times, north and varanasi > > side > > > been > > > > > > the main place of astrology and it developed from there > only. > > > Which > > > > > > side and what is relatively unimportant, if non Indians > excel > > > in > > > > > > astrology in the 21st century, whats the use in saying > Kerala > > > or > > > > > > north India is the main place? > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > I had a chance to interact with Chandra Hari recently on > his > > > > > > article `hindu-ahindu' where on most part he's spitting > venom > > > on > > > > > > brahmins and adi sankaracharya...I don't know what > experience > > > made > > > > > him > > > > > > concentrating all his energies on this part. He wants to > > prove > > > that > > > > > > what all is here, its all dravideans contributions(you > know > > > what), > > > > > > not anyone else's. Whatever may be his intelligence or his > > > abilities > > > > > > (which I also praise), from first two mails itself I felt > his > > > Rahu > > > > > > and Mars been very strong on the negative side. > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji's recent mail on pancha mahapurusha yoga > > > explains > > > > > > it, and my 2 sents are the yoga lord's position in navamsa > > also > > > > > > matters and the dasa running should be favourable. My wife > > has > > > 2 > > > > > > yogas, sasa and ruchaka, but she so far doesn't have even > a > > > job, > > > > > but > > > > > > my life prospers day by day. Jan 1 1983, 7.15PM, 75 E 34 > 11 N > > > 50. > > > > > For > > > > > > another horoscope, Apr 21, 1979 12.05PM 76E14 9N58. See > the > > > hamsa > > > > > > yoga and excellent gaja kesari yoga, how do you analyse > this > > > > > > horoscope ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Dear Saji, I have noted down day by day events of my life and crosschecked with 365 days period, not only my alone, I have 3 other horoscopes and details of respective people's life. 365 days's result co-incide best, sometimes, 360 days result may indicate same thing by some planetery configurations that we are not able to descriminate. In the group, my experience is timing given by 360 days hardly came true, as the analysis was correct, even happened but on the other dates then the predicted one. I will post day by day details when i m free. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > I think I couldnt explain what I wanted to convey. I been using 360 / > 365 days, what at the time of opening a chart I feel. I followed > brihat jataka but I didnt use his moola dasa or naisargika dasa. > Classical authors(unlike these days, they been greatest astrologers > also) talk about 360 / 365 days, and where praMANa has not been fixed > (thats a consensus not been reached), there one follows one's guru. > Thats all. > > Regarding ayanamsa, you know how Lahiri ayanamsa was fixed, and > reached a consensus among scholars. The discussions I had seen and my > experience shows its more accurate. But like other matters, with > other ayanamsa also one may get results, testing it and accepting it > as a praMANa requires that much labour. So you cant do it with 200 or > 500 horoscopes. Do you have this much time? > > I respect you knowledge, and disagreeing on this topic doesnt mean it > otherwise. :-) > > It was so nice to see you on orkut, I wish you all the best in your > new job. And wish you and your family a great year 2008. > > Best regards, > > Saaji Bhaskaran > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Saji > > > > We know each other since some time and i respect your knowledge and > > words.Yes regarding time i agree with your views. > > > > I am experimenting a lot with 360 savana days and others might have > > other views:-). > > > > But i respect the words of K.N.Raoji.When i had asked about 360 deg > > 360 days ,He said -Pradeep work and find it for yourself and > beleive > > only after enough experimentation. > > He neither asked me to follow his 360 degree or supported my views > > regarding 360 days. > > > > Happy new year > > Pardeep > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Saaji Bhaskaran " > > <saajik@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > The only thing I can say is that " nAsti jnAnAt param sukham " > there > > is > > > no happiness above knowledge. People blessed with high > > intelligence > > > are rare and still rare is one who has interest in these subjects > > > (astrology, religious texts etc) and even rare is one who can > > devote > > > time for these subjects. And we know that one never gets respect > > if > > > one manipulates knowledge. > > > > > > Personally I also dont see these things...Incase if the logic > > appeals > > > to me and the argument is convicing and gets results, no matter I > > > also will go for it. But I am a bit rigid, since I get it right > in > > > Lahiri, in this short life there is no need for another ayanamsa. > > And > > > you know better, ayanamsa is a sensitive subject. Dr Raman proved > > > that his ayanamsa is correct, Chandra hari may prove that his > > > ayanamsa is correct, one using 360 days or 365 gets also correct > > > results , with various dasa systems also one see it right and > > again > > > with a slight change in ayanamsa one may reach right conclusion. > > > pramANa is something which is correct in all 3 periods. (past, > > > present and future) and establishing something like ayanamsa in > > this > > > way is not an easy task, so I leave it to better people, while I > > stay > > > with 'my' Lahiri. :- ) > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > For all of you. Rup sir sent a mail earlier for Mars' transit. > And > > > its voilent results. Though the present conditions in Pakistan is > > > earlier than what he wrote, its surely connected. Earlier I had > > seen > > > these things happen pretty earlier or late than the period > > mentioned. > > > And God knows what, my Pakistani friends and colleagues say the > > > present conditions are too much sensitive. With India and > Pakistan > > > still under 7.5 years sani cycle, I am afraid these wont stop > > easily. > > > With India ordering its army to be vigilent, the quesion is what > > next. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji ,Saaji and all > > > > > > > > As i have mentioned to you before,i have found from experience > > that > > > > some groups and individuals are totally against brahmins while > > some > > > > others are totally against non brahmins.So is the case with > > > > north/south divide.Similarly there are some individuals who > > cannot > > > > accept learned souls because of their western > origin.Politically > > > > biased analysis is another behavioural pattern commonly > observed. > > > > > > > > As it is very difficult and a time consuming process to > convince > > > and > > > > debate ,especially as own ideologies are equally great and > > > important > > > > for respective followers,i generally concentrate on astrology > in > > > > astrology lits(the very purpose for which i am here) and > > > > avoid/ignore other areas. > > > > > > > > Similar to what you have mentioned to Saaji,i generally take > > what > > > is > > > > important for objective learning with an open mind and neglect > > the > > > > rest. > > > > > > > > I hope it is clear from my mails that i cannot agree with > anyone > > > who > > > > rates human beings based on their caste,living > > > > circumatances/conditions and region/locality.This tendency is > > > > visibly present in the writings of some individuals(falling in > > > > opposite camps) expressed in crude(prakrit)language. > > > > > > > > I am proud of kerala and its heritage(as it is my mother land) > > but > > > > this does not make me blind to see the merit in other regions > > and > > > > human beings.As learned from experienced souls like > > you,knowledge > > > is > > > > universal and omnipresent. > > > > > > > > Wishing all a great year and prosperous time ahead. > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > If Chandra Hari is doing what Saaji say he is (and there is > no > > > > reason > > > > > for Saaji to say something that is not so), that is very bad. > > > > Perhaps I > > > > > was looking only at his theory with scholarly interest but > you > > > saw > > > > > through the person. No person who respects knowledge would > > want > > > to > > > > > monopolize it for any region or caste or a group of people. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Saaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a lot for ur mail and letting us know about Chandra > > Hari's > > > > > > intentions. > > > > > > > > > > > > can u give his mail id, i w'd like to interact with him. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing% 40>, " Saaji > > > > Bhaskaran " > > > > > > <saajik@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I can have a word on the topic of north or south, > > > especially > > > > > > since > > > > > > > I lived in Kerala for the first 20 years of my life and > > the > > > > rest 10 > > > > > > > years I been in west and north. From my interactions, I > > find > > > > that > > > > > > > while astrology been very important for the day to day > > life in > > > > > > Kerala > > > > > > > its not so with other places. My company was conducting 4 > > days > > > > > > > rigorous yajna and homa each year for which reputed > > pundits > > > > from > > > > > > > varanasi used to arrive and my colleague himself a > learned > > > > pundit > > > > > > > from varanasi I had a chance to understand the tradition > of > > > > > > varanasi. > > > > > > > Like all other shastras, the importance of Varanasi in > > > > astrology > > > > > > also > > > > > > > very high. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But in Kerala, unlike other places people have the habit > of > > > > > > > approaching astrologers for even silly problems. Due to > its > > > > > > religious > > > > > > > side, it got more importance and the books like prashna > > marga > > > > and > > > > > > > krishneeyam and the temples being connected to it for > daiva > > > > > > prashna, > > > > > > > it gave many scholars and daivajnas. In the present time, > > > > since I > > > > > > > been to these places, I can easily say that its in kerala > > only > > > > > > > astrology and astrologers get this much respect. Also, my > > > > > > experience > > > > > > > is that unlike in other states (I haven't visited eastern > > > side > > > > of > > > > > > > India), Kerala has more astrologers and people generally > > > > believes > > > > > > in > > > > > > > astrology and think of it, incase of reversal of fate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I believe that in the early times, north and varanasi > > > side > > > > been > > > > > > > the main place of astrology and it developed from there > > only. > > > > Which > > > > > > > side and what is relatively unimportant, if non Indians > > excel > > > > in > > > > > > > astrology in the 21st century, whats the use in saying > > Kerala > > > > or > > > > > > > north India is the main place? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had a chance to interact with Chandra Hari recently on > > his > > > > > > > article `hindu-ahindu' where on most part he's spitting > > venom > > > > on > > > > > > > brahmins and adi sankaracharya...I don't know what > > experience > > > > made > > > > > > him > > > > > > > concentrating all his energies on this part. He wants to > > > prove > > > > that > > > > > > > what all is here, its all dravideans contributions(you > > know > > > > what), > > > > > > > not anyone else's. Whatever may be his intelligence or > his > > > > abilities > > > > > > > (which I also praise), from first two mails itself I felt > > his > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > and Mars been very strong on the negative side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji's recent mail on pancha mahapurusha > yoga > > > > explains > > > > > > > it, and my 2 sents are the yoga lord's position in > navamsa > > > also > > > > > > > matters and the dasa running should be favourable. My > wife > > > has > > > > 2 > > > > > > > yogas, sasa and ruchaka, but she so far doesn't have even > > a > > > > job, > > > > > > but > > > > > > > my life prospers day by day. Jan 1 1983, 7.15PM, 75 E 34 > > 11 N > > > > 50. > > > > > > For > > > > > > > another horoscope, Apr 21, 1979 12.05PM 76E14 9N58. See > > the > > > > hamsa > > > > > > > yoga and excellent gaja kesari yoga, how do you analyse > > this > > > > > > > horoscope ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Dear Saji Yes it is true.Regarding 360/365,my view is expreimentation may be done on charts where,time of birth and events are well known. Moreover not just a couple of events,but numerous events has to match for satisfaction.We will keep working and keep it open:-)). Regarding Ayanamsha,we may stick to what we know now and will keep the mathematical works done by others(hard work) with an open mind and some elem,ents from those works may help us in the future when one has gained enough knowledge to read pratyantara dashas and sookshma dashas. Thank you very much for your words and all the very best. Pradeep Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > I think I couldnt explain what I wanted to convey. I been using 360 / > 365 days, what at the time of opening a chart I feel. I followed > brihat jataka but I didnt use his moola dasa or naisargika dasa. > Classical authors(unlike these days, they been greatest astrologers > also) talk about 360 / 365 days, and where praMANa has not been fixed > (thats a consensus not been reached), there one follows one's guru. > Thats all. > > Regarding ayanamsa, you know how Lahiri ayanamsa was fixed, and > reached a consensus among scholars. The discussions I had seen and my > experience shows its more accurate. But like other matters, with > other ayanamsa also one may get results, testing it and accepting it > as a praMANa requires that much labour. So you cant do it with 200 or > 500 horoscopes. Do you have this much time? > > I respect you knowledge, and disagreeing on this topic doesnt mean it > otherwise. :-) > > It was so nice to see you on orkut, I wish you all the best in your > new job. And wish you and your family a great year 2008. > > Best regards, > > Saaji Bhaskaran > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Saji > > > > We know each other since some time and i respect your knowledge and > > words.Yes regarding time i agree with your views. > > > > I am experimenting a lot with 360 savana days and others might have > > other views:-). > > > > But i respect the words of K.N.Raoji.When i had asked about 360 deg > > 360 days ,He said -Pradeep work and find it for yourself and > beleive > > only after enough experimentation. > > He neither asked me to follow his 360 degree or supported my views > > regarding 360 days. > > > > Happy new year > > Pardeep > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Saaji Bhaskaran " > > <saajik@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > The only thing I can say is that " nAsti jnAnAt param sukham " > there > > is > > > no happiness above knowledge. People blessed with high > > intelligence > > > are rare and still rare is one who has interest in these subjects > > > (astrology, religious texts etc) and even rare is one who can > > devote > > > time for these subjects. And we know that one never gets respect > > if > > > one manipulates knowledge. > > > > > > Personally I also dont see these things...Incase if the logic > > appeals > > > to me and the argument is convicing and gets results, no matter I > > > also will go for it. But I am a bit rigid, since I get it right > in > > > Lahiri, in this short life there is no need for another ayanamsa. > > And > > > you know better, ayanamsa is a sensitive subject. Dr Raman proved > > > that his ayanamsa is correct, Chandra hari may prove that his > > > ayanamsa is correct, one using 360 days or 365 gets also correct > > > results , with various dasa systems also one see it right and > > again > > > with a slight change in ayanamsa one may reach right conclusion. > > > pramANa is something which is correct in all 3 periods. (past, > > > present and future) and establishing something like ayanamsa in > > this > > > way is not an easy task, so I leave it to better people, while I > > stay > > > with 'my' Lahiri. :- ) > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > For all of you. Rup sir sent a mail earlier for Mars' transit. > And > > > its voilent results. Though the present conditions in Pakistan is > > > earlier than what he wrote, its surely connected. Earlier I had > > seen > > > these things happen pretty earlier or late than the period > > mentioned. > > > And God knows what, my Pakistani friends and colleagues say the > > > present conditions are too much sensitive. With India and > Pakistan > > > still under 7.5 years sani cycle, I am afraid these wont stop > > easily. > > > With India ordering its army to be vigilent, the quesion is what > > next. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji ,Saaji and all > > > > > > > > As i have mentioned to you before,i have found from experience > > that > > > > some groups and individuals are totally against brahmins while > > some > > > > others are totally against non brahmins.So is the case with > > > > north/south divide.Similarly there are some individuals who > > cannot > > > > accept learned souls because of their western > origin.Politically > > > > biased analysis is another behavioural pattern commonly > observed. > > > > > > > > As it is very difficult and a time consuming process to > convince > > > and > > > > debate ,especially as own ideologies are equally great and > > > important > > > > for respective followers,i generally concentrate on astrology > in > > > > astrology lits(the very purpose for which i am here) and > > > > avoid/ignore other areas. > > > > > > > > Similar to what you have mentioned to Saaji,i generally take > > what > > > is > > > > important for objective learning with an open mind and neglect > > the > > > > rest. > > > > > > > > I hope it is clear from my mails that i cannot agree with > anyone > > > who > > > > rates human beings based on their caste,living > > > > circumatances/conditions and region/locality.This tendency is > > > > visibly present in the writings of some individuals(falling in > > > > opposite camps) expressed in crude(prakrit)language. > > > > > > > > I am proud of kerala and its heritage(as it is my mother land) > > but > > > > this does not make me blind to see the merit in other regions > > and > > > > human beings.As learned from experienced souls like > > you,knowledge > > > is > > > > universal and omnipresent. > > > > > > > > Wishing all a great year and prosperous time ahead. > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > If Chandra Hari is doing what Saaji say he is (and there is > no > > > > reason > > > > > for Saaji to say something that is not so), that is very bad. > > > > Perhaps I > > > > > was looking only at his theory with scholarly interest but > you > > > saw > > > > > through the person. No person who respects knowledge would > > want > > > to > > > > > monopolize it for any region or caste or a group of people. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Saaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a lot for ur mail and letting us know about Chandra > > Hari's > > > > > > intentions. > > > > > > > > > > > > can u give his mail id, i w'd like to interact with him. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " Saaji > > > > Bhaskaran " > > > > > > <saajik@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I can have a word on the topic of north or south, > > > especially > > > > > > since > > > > > > > I lived in Kerala for the first 20 years of my life and > > the > > > > rest 10 > > > > > > > years I been in west and north. From my interactions, I > > find > > > > that > > > > > > > while astrology been very important for the day to day > > life in > > > > > > Kerala > > > > > > > its not so with other places. My company was conducting 4 > > days > > > > > > > rigorous yajna and homa each year for which reputed > > pundits > > > > from > > > > > > > varanasi used to arrive and my colleague himself a > learned > > > > pundit > > > > > > > from varanasi I had a chance to understand the tradition > of > > > > > > varanasi. > > > > > > > Like all other shastras, the importance of Varanasi in > > > > astrology > > > > > > also > > > > > > > very high. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But in Kerala, unlike other places people have the habit > of > > > > > > > approaching astrologers for even silly problems. Due to > its > > > > > > religious > > > > > > > side, it got more importance and the books like prashna > > marga > > > > and > > > > > > > krishneeyam and the temples being connected to it for > daiva > > > > > > prashna, > > > > > > > it gave many scholars and daivajnas. In the present time, > > > > since I > > > > > > > been to these places, I can easily say that its in kerala > > only > > > > > > > astrology and astrologers get this much respect. Also, my > > > > > > experience > > > > > > > is that unlike in other states (I haven't visited eastern > > > side > > > > of > > > > > > > India), Kerala has more astrologers and people generally > > > > believes > > > > > > in > > > > > > > astrology and think of it, incase of reversal of fate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I believe that in the early times, north and varanasi > > > side > > > > been > > > > > > > the main place of astrology and it developed from there > > only. > > > > Which > > > > > > > side and what is relatively unimportant, if non Indians > > excel > > > > in > > > > > > > astrology in the 21st century, whats the use in saying > > Kerala > > > > or > > > > > > > north India is the main place? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had a chance to interact with Chandra Hari recently on > > his > > > > > > > article `hindu-ahindu' where on most part he's spitting > > venom > > > > on > > > > > > > brahmins and adi sankaracharya...I don't know what > > experience > > > > made > > > > > > him > > > > > > > concentrating all his energies on this part. He wants to > > > prove > > > > that > > > > > > > what all is here, its all dravideans contributions(you > > know > > > > what), > > > > > > > not anyone else's. Whatever may be his intelligence or > his > > > > abilities > > > > > > > (which I also praise), from first two mails itself I felt > > his > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > and Mars been very strong on the negative side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji's recent mail on pancha mahapurusha > yoga > > > > explains > > > > > > > it, and my 2 sents are the yoga lord's position in > navamsa > > > also > > > > > > > matters and the dasa running should be favourable. My > wife > > > has > > > > 2 > > > > > > > yogas, sasa and ruchaka, but she so far doesn't have even > > a > > > > job, > > > > > > but > > > > > > > my life prospers day by day. Jan 1 1983, 7.15PM, 75 E 34 > > 11 N > > > > 50. > > > > > > For > > > > > > > another horoscope, Apr 21, 1979 12.05PM 76E14 9N58. See > > the > > > > hamsa > > > > > > > yoga and excellent gaja kesari yoga, how do you analyse > > this > > > > > > > horoscope ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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