8/9th lord Saturn- Chandrasekhar ji

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Dear Nalini,

 

With D9 in Vrishabha Shani would be in the 6th and with Mesha it would

be in the 7th. In the former it will confirm being away from father in

the later it gains further strength.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

nalini swamy wrote:

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna

Hraum Namah adityay

 

Respected Chandrasekhar ji,

Namaskar.

I somehow missed this mail and wonder.

Some blessing is worth than none. I am

thankful for whatever, however small a Grace.

However what would the exalted Shani Maharaj

in 5th and 6th( as for eg my D9 lagna Rishaba or Mesha renders the

placement) as that would be phenomenally different lenses to look from.

I would be curious to have your viewpoint.

Whatever be the bhava, that he is powerful

is irrefutable. I also note the wee touch of 'gloom and woe' on my

chart right through my life from childhood, distanced(not

voluntary) from my father from year 15, too many altercations,

harshness etc. Arkay ji summed it up alright, Shani Maharaj is more

than 50% of my chart, he by aspect, yuti, lordship holds undisputed

sway on the entire chart. That I still am optimistic(tempered by the

indefatigable 8th lord) and plodding along is the Grace of Guru.

 

Regards

Nalini

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar >

Vedic Astrologyandhealing

Thursday, 27 December, 2007 8:08:27 AM

Re: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] 8/9th lord Saturn- arkay ji

 

 

Dear Nalini,

 

I would have liked the Dharmakarmadhipati yoga to have occured in the

9th or the 10th bhava. Yet, there is certainly a raj yoga buy virtue of

a trine and square lords coming together in a kendra. That Saturn is

with strength of an exalted Saturn (from navamsha) certainly gives the

ability to look at adhyatma in depth as it aspects the 9th bhava.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

nalini swamy wrote:

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna

Hraum Namah Adityay

 

Dear Arkay ji, Shree

Chandrasekhar ji, Prabodh ji and others,

 

Namaskar.

Yes arkay ji, Shani Maharaj is still an enigma, I know he is behind my

life's experiences but I am wiser to have recognised them as harsh

lessons in this school of learning of this lifetime and has sort of

insulated me . I feel the after effects of the shocks etc after a while

a by then I am geared up to face them with help for the Cosmic.

My Saturn, bhaisaab is with digbala in Dhanus with Guru 9th and 10th

lord yuti, Shukra and Mangala in Makara lorded by Shani Maharaj.

Surya is in Kumbha.

I think I am past those days when I would have loved a reading for the

sake of it. Now I look for opinions and view points to refine and hone

my comprehension, thinking. Come to think of it no reading I have ever

got has been comprehensive and fully able to 'unravel' or 'connect',

just given me glimpses of what, how and why !!!!

But I agree with you that Saturn proclivity is half the chart the other

half also closely connected and all of them on the left hand side of

the ship and the sole 'captain' Rahu  at the helm/rudder. ( I dont sail

and please dont get pedantic with the star board and lee sides of the

ship and the like... apologise for my bla`seness.

But I hope when there is a reduced Hamsa yoga could I not hope for

atleast a still reduced Dharmakarmadhipathi yoga?

 

Cheers

Nalini

 

 

 

 

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arkaydash <arkaydash (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com

Tuesday, 25 December, 2007 9:49:08 AM

[Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] 8/9th lord Saturn

 

 

Nalini, Vekhande saab, Shree Chandrashekhar:

My little experience says that Saturn for Mithuna lagna is half the

horoscope. He is enigma wrapped in mystery.

 

Nalini, you are not alone in this group with such a lord -- a lord

which rules bhagya and rules its absence or drain (fortune-drain) .

You can never know where yu would be led to trip unless you have

internalised important lessons in school of life. Shree Chandrashekhar

is right in wanting to know the overall Saturn proclivity in (your)

particular chart. So far you have told forum your Sa is in Aqu conjunct

 

Ma and Ve, right? (Don't expect a reading. Even Lalit could not manage

one. You will be helped along, though)

 

We know Mithuna-lagnaa and Mesha-lagnaa can't have the luxury

of 'dharmakarmadhipa yoga'. I will keep to Mithuna-lagnaa vis-a-vis Sa.

 

 

Their 'smbandha' must be such that they are not conjunct (yuti) nor in

swap (vyataya), the latter being strongest of five-fold smbandhas. Nor

should they aspect each other. Yet they have to have some meeting point

 

to activate the houses 9,10. They must somehow cross-fertilise 9,10

houses. What could be an ideal scenario?

 

Would we have Sa in 10th. Or would we have Saturn aspecting 10th hse,

ie Pisces; but from where? Fom Budha's two signs (hse one and hse 4)?

Or from its own sign, Capri. Now the other hand for the clap: Ju. He

can be in any sign of the air triplicity to cover the hse 9th. Where

would he be best placed avoiding the direct gaze of Sa? I will try to

build a model of placement in next post. But before that I would urge

Group to ponder this point re Sa (and Ju) vis-a-vis Mithuna lagna.

 

PTP: Sa in itself suffices as 9th lord and 10th lord for this lagna;

Ju in itself suffices as 10th lord and 9th lord.

 

'Sudhi' senior members may forgive anything outre in my line of enquiry

 

and point that out.

 

RK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hare Rama Krsna

Hraum Namah Adityaya

 

Respected Chandrasekhar ji,

 

Namaskar.

Thank you for your thoughts.

 

Regards

Nalini

 

 

 

Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekharVedic Astrologyandhealing Sent: Saturday, 5 January, 2008 8:23:04 AMRe: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] 8/9th lord Saturn- Chandrasekhar ji

 

Dear Nalini,To me it would indicate the spouse overcoming the enemies of his/hers. Saturn however is exalted there so the health of the native could be good and the native's father an influential person.For Mesha lagna that could indicate a much younger jataka and an elderly or very mature spouse.Take care,Chandrashekhar.nalini swamy wrote:

 

 

Hare Rama krsna

hraum Namah Adityay

 

Respected Chandrasekhar ji,

Namaskar.

Apologies for typo, it should have 6th and 7th as you rightly pointed out.

Would an exalted Shani Maharaj in 6th(D9) make enemies powerful or the give native strength to fight enemies?

For Mesha lagna,Lagnesh Mangala and Shani Maharaj in 7th mutually aspecting each other, what are the significances?

 

 

regards

Nalini

 

 

 

 

Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.comFriday, 4 January, 2008 6:19:52 AMRe: [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] 8/9th lord Saturn- Chandrasekhar ji

 

Dear Nalini,With D9 in Vrishabha Shani would be in the 6th and with Mesha it would be in the 7th. In the former it will confirm being away from father in the later it gains further strength.Chandrashekhar.nalini swamy wrote:

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna

Hraum Namah adityay

 

Respected Chandrasekhar ji,

Namaskar.

I somehow missed this mail and wonder.

Some blessing is worth than none. I am thankful for whatever, however small a Grace.

However what would the exalted Shani Maharaj in 5th and 6th( as for eg my D9 lagna Rishaba or Mesha renders the placement) as that would be phenomenally different lenses to look from. I would be curious to have your viewpoint.

Whatever be the bhava, that he is powerful is irrefutable. I also note the wee touch of 'gloom and woe' on my chart right through my life from childhood, distanced(not voluntary) from my father from year 15, too many altercations, harshness etc. Arkay ji summed it up alright, Shani Maharaj is more than 50% of my chart, he by aspect, yuti, lordship holds undisputed sway on the entire chart. That I still am optimistic(tempered by the indefatigable 8th lord) and plodding along is the Grace of Guru.

 

Regards

Nalini

 

 

 

Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.comThursday, 27 December, 2007 8:08:27 AMRe: [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] 8/9th lord Saturn- arkay ji

 

Dear Nalini,I would have liked the Dharmakarmadhipati yoga to have occured in the 9th or the 10th bhava. Yet, there is certainly a raj yoga buy virtue of a trine and square lords coming together in a kendra. That Saturn is with strength of an exalted Saturn (from navamsha) certainly gives the ability to look at adhyatma in depth as it aspects the 9th bhava.Chandrashekhar.nalini swamy wrote:

 

 

Hare Rama KrsnaHraum Namah AdityayDear Arkay ji, Shree Chandrasekhar ji, Prabodh ji and others,Namaskar.Yes arkay ji, Shani Maharaj is still an enigma, I know he is behind my life's experiences but I am wiser to have recognised them as harsh lessons in this school of learning of this lifetime and has sort of insulated me . I feel the after effects of the shocks etc after a while a by then I am geared up to face them with help for the Cosmic.My Saturn, bhaisaab is with digbala in Dhanus with Guru 9th and 10th lord yuti, Shukra and Mangala in Makara lorded by Shani Maharaj.Surya is in Kumbha.I think I am past those days when I would have loved a reading for the sake of it. Now I look for opinions and view points to refine and hone my comprehension, thinking. Come to think of it no

reading I have ever got has been comprehensive and fully able to 'unravel' or 'connect', just given me glimpses of what, how and why !!!!But I agree with you that Saturn proclivity is half the chart the other half also closely connected and all of them on the left hand side of the ship and the sole 'captain' Rahu at the helm/rudder. ( I dont sail and please dont get pedantic with the star board and lee sides of the ship and the like... apologise for my bla`seness.But I hope when there is a reduced Hamsa yoga could I not hope for atleast a still reduced Dharmakarmadhipathi yoga?CheersNalini

 

 

arkaydash <arkaydash (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.comTuesday, 25 December, 2007 9:49:08 AM[Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] 8/9th lord Saturn

 

Nalini, Vekhande saab, Shree Chandrashekhar: My little experience says that Saturn for Mithuna lagna is half the horoscope. He is enigma wrapped in mystery.Nalini, you are not alone in this group with such a lord -- a lord which rules bhagya and rules its absence or drain (fortune-drain) . You can never know where yu would be led to trip unless you have internalised important lessons in school of life. Shree Chandrashekhar is right in wanting to know the overall Saturn proclivity in (your) particular chart. So far you have told forum your Sa is in Aqu conjunct Ma and Ve, right? (Don't expect a reading. Even Lalit could not manage one. You will be helped along, though) We know Mithuna-lagnaa and Mesha-lagnaa can't have the luxury of 'dharmakarmadhipa yoga'. I will keep to Mithuna-lagnaa vis-a-vis Sa. Their 'smbandha' must be such that they are not conjunct (yuti) nor in swap (vyataya),

the latter being strongest of five-fold smbandhas. Nor should they aspect each other. Yet they have to have some meeting point to activate the houses 9,10. They must somehow cross-fertilise 9,10 houses. What could be an ideal scenario? Would we have Sa in 10th. Or would we have Saturn aspecting 10th hse, ie Pisces; but from where? Fom Budha's two signs (hse one and hse 4)? Or from its own sign, Capri. Now the other hand for the clap: Ju. He can be in any sign of the air triplicity to cover the hse 9th. Where would he be best placed avoiding the direct gaze of Sa? I will try to build a model of placement in next post. But before that I would urge Group to ponder this point re Sa (and Ju) vis-a-vis Mithuna lagna.PTP: Sa in itself suffices as 9th lord and 10th lord for this lagna; Ju in itself suffices as 10th lord and 9th lord. 'Sudhi' senior members may forgive anything outre in my line of

enquiry and point that out. RKSend instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger . Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger . Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger . Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.