Jyotish Bashing !!

January 7, 2008

Dear Chandrashekarji,Sunilji and Lalit, Nice to hear your opinions on this disturbing trend It is indeed heartening to know that all of us are on the same wavelength as regards this alarming trend which is spreading like a proverbial plague these days !! As Chandrashekarji has pointed out, Mr AK Kaul is not even on the calendar reform committee (which itself was disbanded ages ago). These JOKERS do not know the ABC of Jyotish.They couch their arguments in fancy language (which grabs the attention of people who

are new to this Vidya).These buffons do not realise that Jyotish unlike the physical sciences cannot be quantified Jyotish is a 'VEDANGA' (eye of the Vedas).There is no proof required for this as all Vedas have references to planets and their effects on human affairs.They also contain several hyms to propitiate the Grahas These buffons are doing a diservice to Jyotish and we should do our best to nip this in the bud Any suggestions on this shall be welcome Regards, aavesh sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare ramakrishna, dear vava menon ji , I respect u too much and ur activities for hindu solidarity . But i must tell u ,ur recent coupling with AK kaul wont take u any where as ur mission is different and his is different .U r a hindu dharmik fighter and u are against conversion tactics . We must understand the simple basics of hinduism atleast abt india all the poor and down trodden ppl were not converting to other religions

except when there was a force or compulsion not because they r educated in Vedas or they hav basic understanding of it .Nor higher castes were supporting them . It was because of astrologers .and their practical demonstartion of knowledge ,so they r seeing truth of a wisdom in actual life ,i know since u r from kerala ,u can verify even some xian bishops also done their charts and many r still blving traditionaly . Now if some one come with a finding to debunk astrology in the lite of vedas its even difficult to prove to us each and every sentence in astrology is in vedas as vedas were a religious text primarily .Its same with ayurveda or any indian scince .Tho we say they are part of vedas,upa veda .We hav dhanur veda or so many things including indian mettullurgy ( can u

show in vedas) ,but we hav chariots or big mansions or things like that ,it was a fact .Can u show knowledge of city planning ( i mean complete in vedas ) --vastu veda .But u can see in mohenja daro cities all kind of ppl were living happily and a city far devlped from todays pakistan ,some part of afganistan to the narmada basin and till gujarath . where as all other civilisations were showing one pyramid or some mandir or a great wall which is use ful for kings or some top ppl but see we hav a wel devlped social system ,than slaves doing big structures like other cultures. Since history is so wast for us every challenges cannot be proved.Esp when distructive comments comes . So sir pls i dentify ur mission and u understand what ur doing . pls stay clear away from some one who has evil mission .Its my first and last mail to u . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> Read What Chandrashekhar Ji has replied, I even need not come in > between, Mind that this is a group of genuine people, we are well > connected, so, never dare doing such things... better learn and help > astrology grow more... Otherwise, you should know that I have called > your Avtaar Kaul twice saturday but the call was not picked up - > Lalit.> > Dear Aavesh,> > This the in thing these days, that is

bashing the ancient sciences. > The person who gave the lecture claims himself to be the President or > some such thing of All India Calendar reforms Committee. whereas that > was wound up long back and he does not appear to be anyway connected > with it. If you go to the website > http://pib.nic.in/feature/fe0999/f2109991.html, you will find > that "Saha was the Chairman of the Calendar Reform Committee > appointed by the Government of India in 1952 under the aegis of the > Council of Scientific and Industrial Research. Other members of the > Committee were: A. C. Banerjee, K. K. Daftari, J. S. Karandikar, > Gorakh Prasad, R. V. Vaidya and N. C. Lahiri". This great President > was nowhere there and the said committee is already wound up and is > now called "Positional Astronomy Centre (P.A.C.)" It is also > interesting to note that this great soul does not even know the >

correct name of the treatise of Arya Bhatta, though he claims to have > read many of the ancient texts.There is no dearth of such people who > claim to be great astronomers and those who praise them. It is best > to ignore these people.> > Chandrashekhar.> > aavesh t wrote:> > Dear Lalit and Group Members,> > > > I got this from one of the Jyotish groups (Vedic-astrology group)> > > > Jyotish bashing is becoming a fashion these days it seems !!> > > > This is a real pity as the real essence of this MahaVidya is being > lost> > > > Your thoughts on this piece are welcome> > > > Regards,> > > > aavesh> >> >> >> > *With Best Wishes,*> > ** > > *aavesh*> >> >

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> > sudha surisudhain@, asthikasamaj@, > > brahminsgroup , sgopal29@, manish@, > > vedakavi@, vedic_research_institute , > > vedic astrology , > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , vedic wisdom > > , vedicliterature > > vedicliteraturethesupremescience > >> >> > > > Dear Shri Avtarji,> > Namasthe !!!> > That was brilliant.... Some more of my doubts got > cleared...... "THAT > > THOSE WHO KNOW about the future WOULD NEVER REVEAL THE SAME OR TRY > TO > > CHANGE THE COURSE OF THE DIVINE WAYS....."> > Thanks for the true revelations !!!> > Also, the assertion that Astrological predictions being a matter of > > 50% true and 50% false.....> > I am told that going through the vedas

down to upa-puranas (all our > > scriptures....) is not easy and it takes many lives to complete > even > > one reading, not to speak of learning and understanding....., I am > > sure, you are a very advanced soul with abundant vedic wisdom that > you > > could undertake such unimaginable feats......> > I bow in front of the wisdom that you have pursued and achieved.....> >> > With best regards,> > VM > > > > > > > > > > > > "Vedic astrology" - the greatest fraud on the Vedas!> >> > Top of Form> > Bottom of Form> > > > Respected Sirs,> > *Jai Shri Krishna ,***> > *The following speech was delivered at Rotary Club, West Delhi , in > > September 2006. It will give you all the information as to how > > "scientific" and "Vedic" astrology

is:***> > *Regards,***> > *AKK***> > * ***> > /Om// tat sat brahmarpanamastu!/**> > /Om// Brahmanandam Parama sukhadam /> > /kevalam gyan moortim, /> > /dwandvateetam gagana sadrisham /> > /tat-tvam asyadi lakshyam /> > /ekam nityam vimalam achalam/> > /sarva dhee sakshi bhootam, /> > /bhavateetam triguna rahitam /> > /shree gurum tam namami /> > * *> > *"Vedic Astrology" - the greatest fraud on the Vedas!***> > Dear friends. Good evening to everybody!> > I feel highly honoured to have been invited by Shri Ajay Bhasin for > > sharing my views about astrology and related topics with respected > > personalities assembled here. As most of us already know, we call > > these predictive gimmicks as "Vedic astrology" these days. > > > > When I was asked by Shri Bhasin about

the heading of my talk, I had > > thought of making it as "Vedic Astrology -- the greatest fraud on > the > > Vedas". On second thoughts, fearing that it would be too explosive > a > > heading, I made it a sugar coated bitter pill by changing it to "Do > we > > celebrate our festivals on correct days?".> > > > Well, actually, both i.e., the fraud known as "Vedic astrology" and > > "our celebrating all our festivals on wrong days" are inter-related.> > Let me start with "Vedic astrology" - as to why I call it a fraud!> > There is hardly anyone in India , who does not want to know as to > when > > his "sade--sati" will start or end or as to which Dasha-antardasha > he > > is running and when that will end etc. etc. even if he does not > know > > ABC of jyotisha. I have gone through all those pangs myself and

> made > > a thorough study of all the astrological works besides a lot of > > astronomical books! I studied Western system of astrology also and > > had become a sort of famous astrologer, though my predictions were > as > > correct as anybody else's i.e. hardly 50%. However, this is a > secret > > that no "jyotishi" shares with anybody -- that his/her predictions > are > > hardly more correct than fifty per cent, whatever logic or > Ayanamsha > > he/she may use! When I analyzed the reasons for such a dismal rate > of > > success, the conclusions were startling! And I am keeping those > very > > conclusions before you!> > > > Before proceeding further, I must, however, say something about > myself > > since you are well within your rights to ask me as to what > > "qualifications" I have to

demolish astrology that is being > practised > > over the last several centuries, nay even millennia!> > * *> > *My credentials*> > Though I am not laying any claims to being a scholar, however, I > have > > actually studied all the four Vedas in original "archaic" Sanskrit > > with their different "Bhashyas", besides the various Brahmanas > like > > Shatapatha, Aitreya, Tatiriya etc. etc. I have studied, (in > original > > Sanskrit!) about two hundred all the important Upanishads as well! > I > > have also gone through both the epics viz. the Valmiki Ramayana and > > the Mahabharata --- in Sanskrit and from cover to cover, besides > > Adhyatma Ramayana, Ramacharitamanasa etc. etc.! There is hardly any > > Purana whether the Bhagavata, Shivapurana, Vishnu, Narada, Devi, > > Varaha, Matsya and Vishnudharmotara

etc. etc. that I have not gone > > through in original Sanskrit. I have also studied exhaustively all > the > > ancient astronomical works like the Vedanga Jyotisha, > > Panchasidhantika, Surya Sidhanta, Arya Bhati, Sidhanta Shiromani > etc. > > etc. To crown it all, I was not a born renegade against the > > established traditions. On the other hand, I was initially > > "hypnotized" by "Vedic astrology" and "panchangas" myself and there > is > > hardly any "text-book" of astrology either in Sanskrit or Urdu or > > English or Hindi that I have not studied with due reverence, as if > I > > was studying the Vedas!> > > > Having established my credentials thus, I CAN DECLARE IT WITHOUT > ANY > > HESITATION AND WITH ALL THE EMPHASIS AT MY COMMAND, THAT THERE IS > > ABSOLUTELY NO PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY IN ANY OF THE

VEDAS, UPANISHADAS > OR > > BRAHMANAS. There are, however, some references to some odd types of > > predictions in some of the Puranas and the epics and therefore > calling > > it as really a post-Vedic astrology is more correct. There is a > rider > > there also, and that is that according to these scriptures, Makara > > Sankranti i.e. Pongal is nothing but a synonym of Uttarayana (the > > shortest day of the year) i.e. Winter Solstice and as everybody > knows, > > it can take place these days only on or around December 21 every > > year. Thus the Uttarayana-cum- Makar Sankranti that we are > > celebrating now-a-days on January 14 is absolutely wrong and does > not > > have any authority from any shastra or even modern astronomy. > > Similarly, the Vaishakhi that is being celebrated on April 14 or so > > also is wrong

since Mesha Sankranti is nothing but Vishuva (Vernal > > Equinox) or Vasant Sampat and it cannot take place on any day > other > > than March 21/22, when the day and night are equal. Actually these > > Makara etc. sankrantis were known as Tapah etc. months during the > > Vedic period as there are no rashis in the Vedas but just six > seasons > > and Madhu, Madhava etc. twelve months. As such, we are celebrating > > all our fasts, fairs and muhurtas on wrong days -- thanks > to "Vedic > > astrologers" and their "Vedic astrology".> > > > The first and foremost thing I learnt from our shastras is that no > > system of predictions has any sanction either from the Vedas or > even > > Puranas least of all our dharmashastras etc. since all our shastras > > admonish us from consulting "nakshatra jeevis" so much so that the >

> Manusmriti calls these nakshatrasoochis as outcastes and not fit to > > sit in any sabha of learned people.> > *Those who can foresee our future do not reveal it to us > beforehand:*> > All the Ramayanas, whether Valmiki or Adhyatma or Ramacharitamanasa > > etc. etc. say that before deciding about the coronation of Bhagwan > > Rama, Dashratha wanted his guru Vasishtha to confirm the suitable > > muhurta for that function. It was on the advice of Vasishtha Muni > > that Dasharatha decided to anoint Rama as the Yuvraja the very next > > day, as it was "Tishya" i.e. Pushya nakshata then. From this > > anecdote, it is clear that either Vasishtha Muni did not know as to > > what was going to happen to Dasharatha by declaring Bhagwan Rama as > a > > crown-prince or Vasishtha kept quiet deliberately since he did not > > want to interfere in

the divine dispensation!> > > > Obviously, being the son of Brahmaji and a highly exalted yogi as > well > > as a jnyani, Vasishtha-muni could peep into past as well as > future. > > It means that even if some exalted souls can foresee as to what is > > going to happen, they do not reveal our "bhavishya" before hand, > > unlike some of the astrologers of today, who masquerade as > > "Parasharas" and "Vamadevas" to tell us even our past and future > > janmas just by glancing at our birth-charts, even if those charts > are > > wrong!> > > > The Gita is said to be the gist of all our shastras. When Arjuna > > expressed his doubt by saying /naitadvidmah katarnno gareeyo, yadva > > jayema yadi va no jayeyuh/ "I do not know what is good for me nor > do I > > know whether we will win or the Kauravas will win the

war", Bhagwan > > Krishna neither asked him to consult some soothsayer nor did He > tell > > him to wear some ruby! He just advised Arjuna "/hato va prapsyasi > > swargam jitva va bokshyase maheem/" i.e. "You must fight. If you > get > > killed in the war, you will go to the heavens and if you win it you > > will be the lord of the whole world".> > Thus all it boils down to is the fact that those who know > (including > > Lord Krishna Himself!) as to what is going to happen and when do > not > > divulge such "secrets" before hand to us.> > > > *Remedial measures are a farce:*> > Almost all the jyotishis suggest one or the other remedial measure > to > > their clients, and mostly these are gems like diamond or ruby or > > sapphire etc. etc. What is surprising is that we have become so > > obsessed with

Jyotish that we forget the entire itihasa of our past!> > (i) If these gems are that efficacious, why was then Dasharatha > > not suggested some "ruby" or "coral" to ward off the evil Dasha > that > > was going to kill him when Rama would leave for the forests? Well, > > because our Rishis did not believe in such gimmicks at all!> > (ii) Bhagwan Krishna was born in a prison --- I wonder why He > could > > not use some "sapphire" to be born in a palace!> > (iii) Vasudeva and Devaki---the parents of Bhagwan Krishna--- were > in > > chains when He was born! It is said that Lord Krishna was a > complete > > -- /16 kala sampoorna/ --- divine incarnation of Vishnu and was > thus > > really Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient! But in spite of His > > Omniscience, Omnipotence and Omnipresence, Lord Krishna could not > >

relieve the miseries of his parents, Vasudeva and Devaki, who had > to > > remain in chains till Krishna killed Kansa!> > What does it demonstrate? Just the fact that if the Omniscient, > > Omnipresent and Omnipotent Krishna could not relieve the miseries > of > > His own father or mother before the appointed time, how can a ruby > or > > a sapphire---or some Mangala or Shani yagya--- remove all our > miseries > > or fulfil all our ambitions? Obviously, we are being taken for a > ride > > by such Jyotishis!> > iv) Then not in the distant past, Smti Indira Gandhi would run > after > > astrologers for knowing her future. She wore a rare and original > > /ekamukhi rudraksha/, which only either the Maharaja of Nepal had > or > > she was wearing! It is said that some top-notch jyotishis had > > suggested that

rudraksha to her! Ironically, both the King of > Nepal > > as well Mrs. Indira Gandhi were assassinated "by the people" > they "had > > trusted"----/ekamukhi rudraksha/ not withstanding! > > What does it prove? That we should not be hoodwinked by > soothsayers!> > v) Then again a well known Tantrik of yore---highly respected by > the > > then PM--- is out on bail, not by dint of his "Tantra-Kriya" but > > because of some legal loopholes in FERA!> > Similarly, Dhirendra Brahmachari, another high profile "Tantrik", > met > > with an accident in the plane he was flying himself! If he could > not > > see his own death looming large how could he forewarn others!> >> > What does that prove? Obviously, it warns us against relying on > any > > soothsayers, especially if they call themselves "Vedic Jyotishis"

> > since they are taking us for a ride literally. > > *Kalasarpa Dosha -- a non-existent fear psychosis:*> > These days we hear a lot about Kalasarpa Dosha! It is said to be > > present in any horoscope if all the planets are between Rahu and > > Ketu! My God! What a humbug! Rahu and Ketu are actually nodes of > > the Moon! That means they are just mathematical points without any > > dimensions ---therefore without any physical existence whatsoever! > So > > according to "Vedic astrologers" even such "non-existent" phenomena > > can make our lives miserable for which we must do some /upay/! Do > you > > need any other proofs for the jugglery that these cheats are > indulging in?> > THE ONLY EFFECTIVE REMEDY, or /UPAY,/ THEREFORE, IS THAT WE MUST > > REMEMBER HIM, THE ALMIGHTY, EVERY MOMENT OF OUR LIVES AND LEAVE > EVERY

> > THING TO HIS DIVINE WILL!. > > * *> > *Fake Brighu Samhitas and Parasharis:*> > We find a Brighu Samhita or a nadi Jyotishi or Aruna Samhita etc. > in > > every Muhalla these days! However, there is no mention in any of > the > > Puranas or shastras that any Rishi like Vasishtha or Garga or > Brighu > > etc. have ever written any books on predictive astrology. The > Vishnu > > Purana by Parashara is full of astronomical references ---and that > > also sayana i.e. the seasonal year when Mesha sankranti is another > > name of Spring Equinox and so on, but we do not find any mention of > > any Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra there! Obviously, it is the > worst > > concoction that can ever be had, and may be that is why such a > > Parashari is the bible of "Vedic astrologers"> >> > *India**

has gone downhill because of astrology and astrologers:*> > In India , we have started going downhill ever since our rulers > > started running after Jyotishis. In ancient days, during the time > of > > the Mahabharata, it was a dharma yudha that we had to fight against > > our own Duryodhanas but ever since the advent of astrology almost > > simultaneously with the invasion of Alexander the Great, and then > the > > "Yavana Jatakam" of Sphujidwaja and the Surya Sidhanta of Maya the > > Yavana (mlechha!), we had to fight outsiders! The more the > > foreigners invaded us the more our rulers, instead of making a > united > > effort against the invaders, started consulting soothsayers whom > they > > called Rajajyotishis! > > > > *Varahamihira the worst culprit:*> > The maximum credit for creating such a fear psychosis

of omens and > > ghosts and ghouls and storms and even clouds goes to Varahamihira > of > > 5th century AD through his Brihat Samita and Brihat Jatakam and > > Panchasidhantika! Before venturing into the battlefield, our > monarchs > > would ask their soothsayers to prepare /"narpati jaya charya"/ and > > consult Brihat Samhita etc. to see whether the "ketuchara" was > > favourable at that time or not! No wonder with such a preliminary > and > > hopeless knowledge of astronomical facts, we were being pushed back > > into dark ages by Varahamihira and his followers!> > > > Our historical records are witness to the fact that we were > > vanquished in every battle, whether it was with Alexander the > Great > > or Muhamud of Gazni or Chengiz Khan or Nadir Shah or the Moguls or > > finally the East India Company, thanks to

the dependence of our > > monarchs on soothsayers (Rajajyotishis, huh!) instead of the > > principles of war strategy and statecraft as adumbrated by the > Vedas, > > the Manu and even Chanakya, who chided kings for consulting > soothsayers!> >> > *BJP the latest example:*> > The fate of the BJP has not been any better than that of our > earlier > > monarchs by depending more on their "Vedic Jyotishis" who were > > responsible for getting "Vedic Jyotisha (sic!)" prescribed in > Indian > > Universities! It is that very move that boomeranged on the party > and > > even the "Minister of astrology" did not win his own parliamentary > > seat from Allahabad , let alone being the Union Minister again. Do > you > > need any other proofs of the fact that these "Vedic Jyotishis" > will > > make you lose

your seat of power well before the appointed day just > by > > making you advance your elections?> > > > If we continue to follow the trend of our "monarchs" of having > blind > > faith in our soothsayers, then sooner than later we will become > > Babylon of yesteryears, which is known as Iraq today!> > > > *Kashmiri Pandits were the worst affected by their blind faith in > > Jyotishis:*> > Another reason for my revolt against the so called "Vedic > astrology" > > is that as a Kashmiri Pandit, I have more to blame panchanga > makers > > and soothsayers and their predictive gimmicks than anything or > anybody > > else since they never forewarned us about any calamities that were > > going to befall us! On the other hand, just to prove their > > astrological gimmicks, they just made ---and are still

making --- > us > > celebrate all our festivals, including Mahashivaratri, Vasanti > > Navratras, Ramanavami, Janmashtami and Sharadiya navratras etc. on > > wrong days. It is these very jyotishis, whom we had treated as our > > friends, philosophers and guides, who are responsible for our > downfall > > as Kahsmiri Pandits, since they proved neither our friends, nor > > philosophers least of all our guides! These Panchanga > > makers/jyotishis were the first to flee from Kashmir in 1990--- > like > > the king Hari Singh at the time of Pakistani raid in 1948--- since > > they had already made their alternate homes in safer places like > > Jammu and Delhi . Those Jyotishis just proved to be Shylocks, who > > were only interested in their Pound of flesh by way of Dakshinas > for > > janmapatris and matching of horoscopes -- all

cheating and nothing > else!> > > > These soothsayers have such a hypnotic grip on us that initially > even > > I was brain washed to believe that the Vedas had nothing else to do > > excepting teaching us predictive astrology! I was so convinced > that > > it appeared that even the principle of Secondary Progressions must > > have been exported from India to Western countries as the principle > of > > "A day equals a year" was mentioned in our Vedas! But thank God, I > > woke up to the situation and could see through their tricks.> > *There are no Mesha, Vrisha etc. Rashis in the Vedas: *> > Leave alone predictive gimmicks, actually there are neither rashis > > like Mesha, Vrisha etc. nor planets like Mangal, Shani etc. in the > > Vedas, Upanishads, Brahmanas etc. Similarly, the Vedanga Jyotisha, > the > >

first indigenous astronomical work of 14^th century BCE, just tells > us > > only as to how to calculate tithi, nakshatra and Uttarayana-cum- > > Tapah-cum Magha etc. months. It does not list any Mesha etc. > rashis > > nor any planets like Mangal, Budha etc. Same is the case with > Yajur > > Jyotisha of about 11^th century BCE and later Atharva Jyotisha of > > about 5^th century BCE. As such, it is really a fraud on the Vedas > > being played by some charlatans to call any predictive gimmicks as > > Vedic astrology and hail themselves as "Vedic Jyotishis". It is a > > crime under "The Consumer Protection Act" as it is a > misrepresentation > > of facts to a client and is thus a deficiency in service. > > > > *Our predictions in the past also could never have been correct:*> > It is said that over the past about 2000 years, our

ancestors like > > Varahamihira or his son Prithuyashas etc., could make marvellously > > correct predictions. THAT IS NOTHING BUT HOGWASH! Let us see how: > > prior to the advent of scientific astronomy into India , i.e. about > a > > couple of centuries back, panchangas were based on astronomical > works > > like the Surya Sidhanta or Aryabhati or Sidhanta Shirmoani etc. > etc. > > I have prepared a software called "Mahesh". It calculates, apart > from > > the actual tithi, nakshatra, yoga, karna etc., the mean longitudes > of > > all the planets from 10000 BCE to 12030 AD i.e. for more than > 22,000 > > years as per the Surya Sidhanta, Aryabhati or Sidhanta Shiromani > etc. > > besides comparing them with the longitudes as per modern astronomy. > > Anybody can download it freely from my discussion forum>

> http://groups. / group/HinduCalen dar > > <HinduCalendar>> > Unfortunately for these jyotishis, we find that the very > fundamental > > arguments of these sidahntas like the Surya Sidhanta, the > Aryabhati, > > the Sidhanta Shiromani etc. etc. are absolutely wrong! . > > That naturally means that any panchanga based on them would also be > > wrong, with the result that any horoscope prepared on the basis of > > those panchangas could never be correct. Thus it is impossible for > any > > astrological predictions to have been correct in the past! As > such, > > it is all like the famous couplet of Ghalib /"yoon to hai hamko > > janat ki haqeeqat maloom lekin; dil ke bahlane ko Ghalib yeh khayal > > achha hai"/> > > > *Astrology cannot be a science *> >

Predictive astrology is supposed to be a "science"! What a > > preposterous statement! When the data on which predictions were > based > > or are based these days are not correct, how can the results be > > correct and how can we call it a science at all?> > * *> > *Stars do not affect us:*> > It is said that stars affect us! It appears either these > astrologers > > have gone honkers themselves or they suppose that the whole world > has > > really gone mad! Let us see how:> > I am a puny human being on this small planet called earth. The sun > is > > hundreds of thousands of times larger than the earth! And there are > > other stars of our nakshatra/rashichak ra that are supposed to > affect > > me individually as per the Dasha-Bhukti that is running in my > > horoscope! However, this fantastic statement has

no leg to stand > upon > > since the nearest star of that Rashichakra is Shravana! And do you > > know its distance from me? It is seventeen light years! And it is > > several times larger than our sun! In other words, if that star > wants > > i.e. Shravana wants to "affect" me individually, it will take it at > > least seventeen years to do so even if that "effect" travels at the > > speed of light! And by then, my Rahu or Shani or whatever Dasha it > > may be must have been over! Then how can such a star which is > > trillions of times larger than me send its rays in a concentrated > form > > just to haunt me at a particular point of time! Can you imagine > what > > type of laughing stocks we are making of ourselves by believing in > > such hocus pocus!> > Similarly, the next nearest star of our Rashichakra is Swati ! It

> is > > away by 26 light years from me> > and is again several times larger than our sun!!> > It thus defies imagination as to how we can call astrology a > science > > or how it can be said that the "Stars affect us".> > * *> > *Patri Melapak (Horoscope Matching) is not warranted by shastras > nor > > astrology books*:> > Now coming to the fad called Patri Melapak i.e. horoscope > matching! > > This fad is the rage of the day! You will be surprised to know that > > none of our shastras, whether the Manusmriti or the Ramayana or the > > Mahabharata, leave alone the Vedas, have anything to do with Patri > > Melapak even by mistake! We do not find any instances that any > Vedic > > Rishi was addicted to such a fad, since may be then most of them > would > > still have been looking for a

"suitable Patri" for melapak! Not to > > speak of Dharma shastras, there is no mention of this type of a > malady > > in any of the astrology books like the so called Parashari, or > > Mansagari or Phala Deepika or Jataka Parijata or any other work! > It > > appears to be a creation of the jyotishis of over the last one > > hundred years or so. Aleberuni, who visited India in 1030 AD and > > recorded quite faithfully all his experiences about Jyotisha and > > other things in India also has not mentioned anything of > any "Melapak" > > in his work!> > > > *"All India Calendar Reform Committee":*> > Summing up, as we have just seen, not only are we subjected to > > non-existent fear psychosis like Kalasarpa Dosha and Patri Melapak > > etc. but we are compelled to celebrate all our festivals on worng > > days. There

are quite a few people who agree with my point of > > view that these days we are celebrating Pitra Amavasya on the day > of > > Dipavali and marriages during Pitra-Paksha! Similarly, we never > > celebrate Makar Sankranti on correct days i.e. December 21/22 but > we > > celebrate it on January 14. We also celebrate Vaishakhi on April > 14 > > instead of the day of Spring Equinox i.e., March 21 or so. This > has > > been all because of the so called "Vedic astrology"> > To put our festivals back on the right track, I made quite a few > > representations to the Hon'ble President of India, the Prime > Minister > > of India, various ministries besides the Positional Astronomy > Centre > > at Calcutta , who publish our Rashtriya Panchanga. I also made > > similar representations to all the reverred Shankaracharyas of all

> the > > six /peethas,/ besides other saints and Mahatmas, but sorry to say, > > there has been absolutely no response from any quarter!> > We have now formed an "All India Calendar Reform Committee" and > are > > enrolling members for the same. Those interested can log on to > > http://groups. / group/HinduCalen dar > > <HinduCalendar> for entering into > > discussions regarding the same. You can also get a list of correct > > dates of festivals for 2006 and 2007 from that forum. As an > > alternative, you can get in touch with me whenever you want to for > any > > further clarifications.> > Thank you very much for listening to this "exhortation" > against "Vedic > > astrology" and the efforts I am making to streamline our > > calendars. /Om// tat sat >

brahmarpanam > > astu/> > *Avtar Krishen Kaul*> > President> > All India Calendar Reform Committee> > H. No. 5, MIG, 00-A,> > Sector-2, Avantika, Rohini, Delhi-110085.> > Email:jyotirved@ sify.com <http://sify.com/>; a_krishen > > <http://us.f533.mail./ym/Compose?To=a_krishen@; > > Tel. 011-27516483> > > >> >> > */Horoscope 2008 Janet info@/* wrote:> >> > /Direct Monthly Horoscope - Personalized natal chart for > INDUCHOODAN /> > *INDUCHOODAN *your Monthly horoscope, choice your sign :> > Aries <http://url.dolist.fr/id.asp?l=53850-4009521-1304171-920-> 0>> >> > Taurus <http://url.dolist.fr/id.asp?l=53844-4009521-1304171-920-> 0>> >> > Gemini

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