Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Lalit, Gurujis //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are present in one's chart in 12'th house// Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a brilliant musician. 22/2/83 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts of 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp by Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. Your response would be much appreciated. thanks Su Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply to > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's why > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post other's > work in my name. > > If Google then Google. > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when rahu is > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > Beware !! > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sushil Dikshit " > <sushil.dikshit@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Litsol, > > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this > group > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your > writings > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology in > > them. I can prove it from your posts. > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are the > > pens you use for for your writings. > > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember you > as > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology. > > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role of > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have only > > three options > > > > 1. Either correct yourself > > 2. or ban me > > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology > > > > sushil dikshit > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Kamal, > > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand and > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's esoteric > > one. > > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > > necessary > > > to give answer to some typical people. > > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not even > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves the > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him. > > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do better > > than > > > others. Dont worry ! > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic Learner " > > > <sightsolutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Moderator > > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is > being > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss. > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > kamal > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Dear Su, As per my knowledge, mercury + venus in 12'th can make a person good in art, I know one or two people who are good poet, author etc.. with this combination. With Mars + Venus in 12'th one's character is not good, he w'd have a pleasant personality like artists do have, just to use girls if he is male, and if female, she will use males. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au " <reality_v wrote: > > Lalit, Gurujis > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a brilliant > musician. > > 22/2/83 > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts of > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp by > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > Your response would be much appreciated. > thanks > > Su > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > wrote: > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply to > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's why > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post other's > > work in my name. > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when rahu is > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > Beware !! > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sushil Dikshit " > > <sushil.dikshit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Litsol, > > > > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this > > group > > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your > > writings > > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology in > > > them. I can prove it from your posts. > > > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are the > > > pens you use for for your writings. > > > > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember you > > as > > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role of > > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have only > > > three options > > > > > > 1. Either correct yourself > > > 2. or ban me > > > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology > > > > > > sushil dikshit > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Kamal, > > > > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand and > > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's esoteric > > > one. > > > > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > > > necessary > > > > to give answer to some typical people. > > > > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not even > > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves the > > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him. > > > > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do better > > > than > > > > others. Dont worry ! > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic Learner " > > > > <sightsolutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Moderator > > > > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is > > being > > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss. > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > > > kamal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Dear Lalit thanks for the response. But wouldnt the aspect of Ju mitigate that trait? And in this particular case the asp of exalted Sa on lag fr 7th? rgds Su Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Su, > > As per my knowledge, mercury + venus in 12'th can make a person good > in art, I know one or two people who are good poet, author etc.. > with this combination. > > With Mars + Venus in 12'th one's character is not good, he w'd have a > pleasant personality like artists do have, just to use girls if he is > male, and if female, she will use males. > > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au " > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > brilliant > > musician. > > > > 22/2/83 > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts > of > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp by > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > thanks > > > > Su > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply > to > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's > why > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > other's > > > work in my name. > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > rahu is > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sushil Dikshit " > > > <sushil.dikshit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Litsol, > > > > > > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this > > > group > > > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your > > > writings > > > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology > in > > > > them. I can prove it from your posts. > > > > > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are > the > > > > pens you use for for your writings. > > > > > > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > > > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember > you > > > as > > > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role > of > > > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have > only > > > > three options > > > > > > > > 1. Either correct yourself > > > > 2. or ban me > > > > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Kamal, > > > > > > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand > and > > > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's > esoteric > > > > one. > > > > > > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > > > > necessary > > > > > to give answer to some typical people. > > > > > > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not > even > > > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves > the > > > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him. > > > > > > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do > better > > > > than > > > > > others. Dont worry ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic > Learner " > > > > > <sightsolutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Moderator > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is > > > being > > > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > > > > > kamal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Dear SU, Mars + Venus will still give him such instincts, under the belt, but Jupitor will give him wisdom to keep his instincts in the check, but such an instinct will always be there, jupitor gives ability to keep such things in check, will not break the code of the conduct openly. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au " <reality_v wrote: > > Dear Lalit > thanks for the response. But wouldnt the aspect of Ju mitigate that > trait? And in this particular case the asp of exalted Sa on lag fr 7th? > > rgds > Su > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Su, > > > > As per my knowledge, mercury + venus in 12'th can make a person good > > in art, I know one or two people who are good poet, author etc.. > > with this combination. > > > > With Mars + Venus in 12'th one's character is not good, he w'd have a > > pleasant personality like artists do have, just to use girls if he is > > male, and if female, she will use males. > > > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au " > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > brilliant > > > musician. > > > > > > 22/2/83 > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts > > of > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp by > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > > thanks > > > > > > Su > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply > > to > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's > > why > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > other's > > > > work in my name. > > > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > > rahu is > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sushil Dikshit " > > > > <sushil.dikshit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Litsol, > > > > > > > > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this > > > > group > > > > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your > > > > writings > > > > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology > > in > > > > > them. I can prove it from your posts. > > > > > > > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are > > the > > > > > pens you use for for your writings. > > > > > > > > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > > > > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember > > you > > > > as > > > > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > > > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role > > of > > > > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have > > only > > > > > three options > > > > > > > > > > 1. Either correct yourself > > > > > 2. or ban me > > > > > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology > > > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Kamal, > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand > > and > > > > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's > > esoteric > > > > > one. > > > > > > > > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > > > > > necessary > > > > > > to give answer to some typical people. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not > > even > > > > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves > > the > > > > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him. > > > > > > > > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do > > better > > > > > than > > > > > > others. Dont worry ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic > > Learner " > > > > > > <sightsolutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Moderator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is > > > > being > > > > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kamal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Dear SU, Just to add one more thing, mercury alone in 12'th confers very good authoring skills to a native. They articulate themselves very nicely, Mercury's gift to them, If Venus too in 12'th, music, dance and drama may also be there, No wonder .. but enough care should be taken in predicting same in case of mars + venus. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear SU, > > Mars + Venus will still give him such instincts, under the belt, but > Jupitor will give him wisdom to keep his instincts in the check, but > such an instinct will always be there, jupitor gives ability to keep > such things in check, will not break the code of the conduct openly. > > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au " > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lalit > > thanks for the response. But wouldnt the aspect of Ju mitigate that > > trait? And in this particular case the asp of exalted Sa on lag fr > 7th? > > > > rgds > > Su > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > > > > As per my knowledge, mercury + venus in 12'th can make a person > good > > > in art, I know one or two people who are good poet, author etc.. > > > with this combination. > > > > > > With Mars + Venus in 12'th one's character is not good, he w'd > have a > > > pleasant personality like artists do have, just to use girls if > he is > > > male, and if female, she will use males. > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au " > > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > are > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > > brilliant > > > > musician. > > > > > > > > 22/2/83 > > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the > charts > > > of > > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 > asp by > > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <litsol@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or > reply > > > to > > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name > that's > > > why > > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > > other's > > > > > work in my name. > > > > > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > are > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > > > rahu is > > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sushil > Dikshit " > > > > > <sushil.dikshit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Litsol, > > > > > > > > > > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of > this > > > > > group > > > > > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly > your > > > > > writings > > > > > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to > astrology > > > in > > > > > > them. I can prove it from your posts. > > > > > > > > > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V > are > > > the > > > > > > pens you use for for your writings. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave > the > > > > > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will > remember > > > you > > > > > as > > > > > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a > role > > > of > > > > > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you > have > > > only > > > > > > three options > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Either correct yourself > > > > > > 2. or ban me > > > > > > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Kamal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to > understand > > > and > > > > > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's > > > esoteric > > > > > > one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It > was > > > > > > necessary > > > > > > > to give answer to some typical people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is > not > > > even > > > > > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, > deserves > > > the > > > > > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do > > > better > > > > > > than > > > > > > > others. Dont worry ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic > > > Learner " > > > > > > > <sightsolutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Moderator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty > linen is > > > > > being > > > > > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kamal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Dear Lalit thanks for the feedback. regds Su Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear SU, > > Just to add one more thing, mercury alone in 12'th confers very good > authoring skills to a native. They articulate themselves very nicely, > Mercury's gift to them, If Venus too in 12'th, music, dance and drama > may also be there, No wonder .. but enough care should be taken in > predicting same in case of mars + venus. > > regards, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > Dear SU, > > > > Mars + Venus will still give him such instincts, under the belt, > but > > Jupitor will give him wisdom to keep his instincts in the check, > but > > such an instinct will always be there, jupitor gives ability to > keep > > such things in check, will not break the code of the conduct openly. > > > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au " > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit > > > thanks for the response. But wouldnt the aspect of Ju mitigate > that > > > trait? And in this particular case the asp of exalted Sa on lag > fr > > 7th? > > > > > > rgds > > > Su > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <litsol@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > > > > > > As per my knowledge, mercury + venus in 12'th can make a person > > good > > > > in art, I know one or two people who are good poet, author > etc.. > > > > with this combination. > > > > > > > > With Mars + Venus in 12'th one's character is not good, he w'd > > have a > > > > pleasant personality like artists do have, just to use girls if > > he is > > > > male, and if female, she will use males. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au " > > > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + > venus > > are > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > > > brilliant > > > > > musician. > > > > > > > > > > 22/2/83 > > > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the > > charts > > > > of > > > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 > > asp by > > > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <litsol@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or > > reply > > > > to > > > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and > self > > > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name > > that's > > > > why > > > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to > post > > > > other's > > > > > > work in my name. > > > > > > > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + > venus > > are > > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or > when > > > > rahu is > > > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sushil > > Dikshit " > > > > > > <sushil.dikshit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Litsol, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of > > this > > > > > > group > > > > > > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly > > your > > > > > > writings > > > > > > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to > > astrology > > > > in > > > > > > > them. I can prove it from your posts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V > > are > > > > the > > > > > > > pens you use for for your writings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please > leave > > the > > > > > > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will > > remember > > > > you > > > > > > as > > > > > > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a > > role > > > > of > > > > > > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you > > have > > > > only > > > > > > > three options > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Either correct yourself > > > > > > > 2. or ban me > > > > > > > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Kamal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to > > understand > > > > and > > > > > > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, > it's > > > > esoteric > > > > > > > one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It > > was > > > > > > > necessary > > > > > > > > to give answer to some typical people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who > is > > not > > > > even > > > > > > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, > > deserves > > > > the > > > > > > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will > do > > > > better > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > others. Dont worry ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic > > > > Learner " > > > > > > > > <sightsolutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Moderator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty > > linen is > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kamal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 dear su i have glanced at your son's chart just now. i think it has got more to do with the exalted moon in 2H from lagna and the 3L from the rasi kundli which makes him interested in music per se what with the benevolent jupiter's direct aspect on it. i do agree ven too is exalted but in the 12H and in the company of a general malefic planet mars which also happens to be his LL as well as the 8L if one considers lagna to be one of the parameters. did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got seriously involved towards mid 2005? also does he like more of the hard rock or jazz and pop music than softer versions? his interest in music must be now on and now off kind? too many questions! let me stop here. my two cents! cheers mahalakshmi Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au " <reality_v wrote: > > Lalit, Gurujis > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a brilliant > musician. > > 22/2/83 > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts of > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp by > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > Your response would be much appreciated. > thanks > > Su > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > wrote: > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply to > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's why > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post other's > > work in my name. > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when rahu is > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > Beware !! > > > > ~Lalit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Dear Su, I agree with Mahalaxmi. I think in addition to what is already said, the fact of 3rd lord Mercury going to the 10th and being dispositor of Rahu ( who also gives results of Mercury and Saturn) is also an indication that he could turn professional in his choice of music. You will also note that Mercury is in navamsha lagna. Venus in 12th by itself or conjunct Mars may not be the reason for the lad to be in music. Chandrashekhar. rama gopalakrishnan wrote: dear su i have glanced at your son's chart just now. i think it has got more to do with the exalted moon in 2H from lagna and the 3L from the rasi kundli which makes him interested in music per se what with the benevolent jupiter's direct aspect on it. i do agree ven too is exalted but in the 12H and in the company of a general malefic planet mars which also happens to be his LL as well as the 8L if one considers lagna to be one of the parameters. did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got seriously involved towards mid 2005? also does he like more of the hard rock or jazz and pop music than softer versions? his interest in music must be now on and now off kind? too many questions! let me stop here. my two cents! cheers mahalakshmi Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "vreality_au" <reality_v wrote: > > Lalit, Gurujis > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a brilliant > musician. > > 22/2/83 > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts of > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp by > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > Your response would be much appreciated. > thanks > > Su > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <litsol@> > wrote: > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply to > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's why > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post other's > > work in my name. > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when rahu is > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > Beware !! > > > > ~Lalit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Yes, Su: That is possible if the ascendant is Aries. I haven't checked this particular native from your data. But the logic is this. 2L, Ve, goes to exaltation along with lagna lordm Mars. And both are strengthened by Bachaspati, Jupiter. Points to be noted 1st lord conjoint another lord the matter signified by that other lord house -- in this case 2nd, speech -- gets dynamised. And the self (lagna lord) identifies with that matter. House exaltation: the reading is obvious. Now Jupiter's aspect on this conjunction has top be from either Cancer or Scorpio. If it is from the lattter, there is double benefit to the matter, 2nd hse matter. Here Taurus, 2nd hse, receives Jupiter's 7th-hse aspect. What is the principle operating here. Venus is rules sex. Venus rules Gandharva vidyas too. Even in 12th, when Ven is exalted we have the higher octave of Ve in operation. Jupiter's aspect secures the play of speech to the pitch of art, and we have singing. When not helped by Pisces-dignity, the Venus along with great philalndereer Skanda (Mars) will lust after sex (acts) All this without checking whether the Asc here is Aries. Let me also add, Aries lagna is not the only precondition. I was just building up the scenario where the traditional reading of Ven+Mars in H12. Hope we shall salvage such Ven+Mars+12th mention from the slur it is dipped into and lobbed. Cheers, RK On 15/01/2008, vreality_au <reality_v wrote: Lalit, Gurujis//You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are present in one's chart in 12'th house//Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a brilliant musician. 22/2/839.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,IndiaDoes Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts of2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp byJu. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. Your response would be much appreciated.thanksSu Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsolwrote:>> Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply to > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's why > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post other's > work in my name.> > If Google then Google.> > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when rahu is > there in 7'th in one's chart ...> > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !!> > Beware !!> > ~Lalit.> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sushil Dikshit " > <sushil.dikshit@> wrote:> >> > > > Dear Litsol,> > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this > group > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your > writings > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology in > > them. I can prove it from your posts. > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are the > > pens you use for for your writings.> > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember you > as > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology.> > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role of > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have only > > three options> > > > 1. Either correct yourself> > 2. or ban me> > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology > > > > sushil dikshit> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <litsol@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mr. Kamal,> > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand and > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's esoteric > > one.> > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > > necessary > > > to give answer to some typical people.> > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not even > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves the > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.> > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do better > > than > > > others. Dont worry !> > > > > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic Learner " > > > <sightsolutions@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Moderator> > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is > being > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss.> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > > > kamal> > > > > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Dear Mahalaksmi thank you for your response. The young lad is not my son - just someone known to me. I hve an interest in classical music and was keen to into the charts of classically trained musicians. To ans some of your questions: //did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got seriously involved towards mid 2005? // He has been studying music since age 5 under one of India's most renowned musicians, and plays a stringed instrument. [Forgive me for not mentioning the name of his guru or the instrument he plays. Since the native is already a local celebrity in his native land and has 2 cds to his name, it would be irresponsible of me to mention any details on a public forum, esp since Ive been trusted with his bio-data.] //also does he like more of the hard rock or jazz and pop music than softer versions?// His music is mainly classical tho he does play Bollywood music and tht stuff thats called 'fusion'. //his interest in music must be now on and now off kind?// Actually he is extremely dedicated and a rather awe inspiring character. Does his normal day job for 8-10 hrs then goes home and practices for 8hrs everyday!! Has great ambition with regard to his music and works hard towards it. regds Su Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " rama gopalakrishnan " <astromahaluxmi wrote: > > dear su > > i have glanced at your son's chart just now. > i think it has got more to do with the exalted moon in 2H from lagna > and the 3L from the rasi kundli which makes him interested in music > per se what with the benevolent jupiter's direct aspect on it. > > i do agree ven too is exalted but in the 12H and in the company of a > general malefic planet mars which also happens to be his LL as well > as the 8L if one considers lagna to be one of the parameters. > > did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got seriously > involved towards mid 2005? also does he like more of the hard rock > or jazz and pop music than softer versions? > his interest in music must be now on and now off kind? > too many questions! let me stop here. > > my two cents! > cheers > mahalakshmi > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au " > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > are > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > brilliant > > musician. > > > > 22/2/83 > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts > of > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp > by > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > thanks > > > > Su > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or > reply to > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's > why > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > other's > > > work in my name. > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > are > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > rahu is > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > ~Lalit. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Dear Chandrashekharji thank you for your response. As mentioned it reply to Mahalaksmi, the lad has been professional for some time now, and recently completed a performance tour of the US. With regard to Ve in 12th, I was comparing his chart to another professional musician, who also plays a stringed instrument. March, 16, 1968 7.50 am 7.30+ 101 E42, 3N10 This one also has VE [3/8L]in 12th but conj Me, asp by LL Ju in 6th. Of course Ve in 12 could be a coincidence - I was looking at common patterns, but there could be other reasons. I was also looking for a 3L connection since, being instrumentalists the 3rd [for hands] should be involved, or am I wrong? This chart is an interesting one with 4 malefics in lagna. What gives him his celebrity status in his native land? LL Ju asp 10th which happens to be his own hse? Ju is also parivartan wth Sun in lagna. Btw, Mahalaksmi I neglected to mention, the Sangli chart with Moon exalted in 2nd - the young man does sing well. regds Su Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Su, > I agree with Mahalaxmi. I think in addition to what is already said, the > fact of 3rd lord Mercury going to the 10th and being dispositor of Rahu > ( who also gives results of Mercury and Saturn) is also an indication > that he could turn professional in his choice of music. You will also > note that Mercury is in navamsha lagna. Venus in 12th by itself or > conjunct Mars may not be the reason for the lad to be in music. > > Chandrashekhar. > > rama gopalakrishnan wrote: > > > > dear su > > > > i have glanced at your son's chart just now. > > i think it has got more to do with the exalted moon in 2H from lagna > > and the 3L from the rasi kundli which makes him interested in music > > per se what with the benevolent jupiter's direct aspect on it. > > > > i do agree ven too is exalted but in the 12H and in the company of a > > general malefic planet mars which also happens to be his LL as well > > as the 8L if one considers lagna to be one of the parameters. > > > > did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got seriously > > involved towards mid 2005? also does he like more of the hard rock > > or jazz and pop music than softer versions? > > his interest in music must be now on and now off kind? > > too many questions! let me stop here. > > > > my two cents! > > cheers > > mahalakshmi > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " vreality_au " > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > are > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > brilliant > > > musician. > > > > > > 22/2/83 > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts > > of > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp > > by > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > > thanks > > > > > > Su > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " litsol " <litsol@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or > > reply to > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's > > why > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > other's > > > > work in my name. > > > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > are > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > > rahu is > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Dear Arkaydaji Good to hear from you. My thinking was along your lines. Yes Lag is Ar. And you are right LL conj 2L exalted Ve - lad certainly is very confident in his speech [!!] and as mentioned, sings well too. Vargottama Ju's asp is from Sc. Ju is aspecting Ta with exalted Moon has well as Cn [4th hse]. Very close to parents as well, and happy domestic life. //Venus is rules sex. Venus rules Gandharva vidyas too. Even in 12th, when Ven is exalted we have the higher octave of Ve in operation. Jupiter's aspect secures the play of speech to the pitch of art, and we have singing. When not helped by Pisces-dignity, the Venus along with great philalndereer Skanda (Mars) will lust after sex (acts)// I was laughing. The lad certainly displays a rather high libido and seems rather open minded with regard to sexual matters, at least by Indian standards. I wasnt quite sure if it should be attributed to the fact that he's a musician [creative type and all that], the youth factor, or the Ve/Mars in hse of bed pleasures. Interesting to note, Mars 12L in Nav also conj ve in Nav. Where's the fame combo? 10L Sa exalted asp lag? rgds Su Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " rk dash " <arkaydash wrote: > > Yes, Su: > That is possible if the ascendant is Aries. I haven't checked this > particular native from your data. But the logic is this. 2L, Ve, goes to > exaltation along with lagna lordm Mars. And both are strengthened by > Bachaspati, Jupiter. Points to be noted 1st lord conjoint another lord the > matter signified by that other lord house -- in this case 2nd, speech -- > gets dynamised. And the self (lagna lord) identifies with that matter. House > exaltation: the reading is obvious. Now Jupiter's aspect on this conjunction > has top be from either Cancer or Scorpio. If it is from the lattter, there > is double benefit to the matter, 2nd hse matter. Here Taurus, 2nd hse, > receives Jupiter's 7th-hse aspect. > > What is the principle operating here. Venus is rules sex. Venus rules > Gandharva vidyas too. Even in 12th, when Ven is exalted we have the higher > octave of Ve in operation. Jupiter's aspect secures the play of speech to > the pitch of art, and we have singing. > > When not helped by Pisces-dignity, the Venus along with great philalndereer > Skanda (Mars) will lust after sex (acts) > > All this without checking whether the Asc here is Aries. Let me also add, > Aries lagna is not the only precondition. I was just building up the > scenario where the traditional reading of Ven+Mars in H12. > > Hope we shall salvage such Ven+Mars+12th mention from the slur it is dipped > into and lobbed. > > Cheers, > RK > > > On 15/01/2008, vreality_au <reality_v wrote: > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a brilliant > > musician. > > > > 22/2/83 > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts of > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp by > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > thanks > > > > Su > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40.\ com>, > > " litsol " <litsol@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply to > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's why > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post other's > > > work in my name. > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when rahu is > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40.\ com>, > > " Sushil Dikshit " > > > <sushil.dikshit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Litsol, > > > > > > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this > > > group > > > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your > > > writings > > > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology in > > > > them. I can prove it from your posts. > > > > > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are the > > > > pens you use for for your writings. > > > > > > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > > > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember you > > > as > > > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role of > > > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have only > > > > three options > > > > > > > > 1. Either correct yourself > > > > 2. or ban me > > > > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40.\ com>, > > " litsol " > > > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Kamal, > > > > > > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand and > > > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's esoteric > > > > one. > > > > > > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > > > > necessary > > > > > to give answer to some typical people. > > > > > > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not even > > > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves the > > > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him. > > > > > > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do better > > > > than > > > > > others. Dont worry ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40.\ com>, > > " Vedic Learner " > > > > > <sightsolutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Moderator > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is > > > being > > > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > > > > > kamal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Dear SU, 4 malifics in lagna means he is not a good man, regardless of the degree of celebrity status he has got. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au " <reality_v wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > thank you for your response. > > As mentioned it reply to Mahalaksmi, the lad has been professional for > some time now, and recently completed a performance tour of the US. > > With regard to Ve in 12th, I was comparing his chart to another > professional musician, who also plays a stringed instrument. > > March, 16, 1968 > 7.50 am > 7.30+ > 101 E42, 3N10 > > This one also has VE [3/8L]in 12th but conj Me, asp by LL Ju in 6th. > Of course Ve in 12 could be a coincidence - I was looking at common > patterns, but there could be other reasons. I was also looking for a > 3L connection since, being instrumentalists the 3rd [for hands] should > be involved, or am I wrong? This chart is an interesting one with 4 > malefics in lagna. What gives him his celebrity status in his native > land? LL Ju asp 10th which happens to be his own hse? Ju is also > parivartan wth Sun in lagna. > > Btw, Mahalaksmi I neglected to mention, the Sangli chart with Moon > exalted in 2nd - the young man does sing well. > > regds > Su > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Su, > > I agree with Mahalaxmi. I think in addition to what is already said, > the > > fact of 3rd lord Mercury going to the 10th and being dispositor of Rahu > > ( who also gives results of Mercury and Saturn) is also an indication > > that he could turn professional in his choice of music. You will also > > note that Mercury is in navamsha lagna. Venus in 12th by itself or > > conjunct Mars may not be the reason for the lad to be in music. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > rama gopalakrishnan wrote: > > > > > > dear su > > > > > > i have glanced at your son's chart just now. > > > i think it has got more to do with the exalted moon in 2H from lagna > > > and the 3L from the rasi kundli which makes him interested in music > > > per se what with the benevolent jupiter's direct aspect on it. > > > > > > i do agree ven too is exalted but in the 12H and in the company of a > > > general malefic planet mars which also happens to be his LL as well > > > as the 8L if one considers lagna to be one of the parameters. > > > > > > did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got seriously > > > involved towards mid 2005? also does he like more of the hard rock > > > or jazz and pop music than softer versions? > > > his interest in music must be now on and now off kind? > > > too many questions! let me stop here. > > > > > > my two cents! > > > cheers > > > mahalakshmi > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing% 40>, " vreality_au " > > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > > are > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > > brilliant > > > > musician. > > > > > > > > 22/2/83 > > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts > > > of > > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp > > > by > > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " litsol " > <litsol@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or > > > reply to > > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's > > > why > > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > > other's > > > > > work in my name. > > > > > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > > are > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > > > rahu is > > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 he's really not that bad a fellow - Ive seen worse. Rather kind hearted in fact. Su Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear SU, > > 4 malifics in lagna means he is not a good man, regardless of the > degree of celebrity status he has got. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au " > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > thank you for your response. > > > > As mentioned it reply to Mahalaksmi, the lad has been professional > for > > some time now, and recently completed a performance tour of the US. > > > > With regard to Ve in 12th, I was comparing his chart to another > > professional musician, who also plays a stringed instrument. > > > > March, 16, 1968 > > 7.50 am > > 7.30+ > > 101 E42, 3N10 > > > > This one also has VE [3/8L]in 12th but conj Me, asp by LL Ju in 6th. > > Of course Ve in 12 could be a coincidence - I was looking at common > > patterns, but there could be other reasons. I was also looking for a > > 3L connection since, being instrumentalists the 3rd [for hands] > should > > be involved, or am I wrong? This chart is an interesting one with 4 > > malefics in lagna. What gives him his celebrity status in his native > > land? LL Ju asp 10th which happens to be his own hse? Ju is also > > parivartan wth Sun in lagna. > > > > Btw, Mahalaksmi I neglected to mention, the Sangli chart with Moon > > exalted in 2nd - the young man does sing well. > > > > regds > > Su > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > I agree with Mahalaxmi. I think in addition to what is already > said, > > the > > > fact of 3rd lord Mercury going to the 10th and being dispositor > of Rahu > > > ( who also gives results of Mercury and Saturn) is also an > indication > > > that he could turn professional in his choice of music. You will > also > > > note that Mercury is in navamsha lagna. Venus in 12th by itself > or > > > conjunct Mars may not be the reason for the lad to be in music. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > rama gopalakrishnan wrote: > > > > > > > > dear su > > > > > > > > i have glanced at your son's chart just now. > > > > i think it has got more to do with the exalted moon in 2H from > lagna > > > > and the 3L from the rasi kundli which makes him interested in > music > > > > per se what with the benevolent jupiter's direct aspect on it. > > > > > > > > i do agree ven too is exalted but in the 12H and in the company > of a > > > > general malefic planet mars which also happens to be his LL as > well > > > > as the 8L if one considers lagna to be one of the parameters. > > > > > > > > did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got seriously > > > > involved towards mid 2005? also does he like more of the hard > rock > > > > or jazz and pop music than softer versions? > > > > his interest in music must be now on and now off kind? > > > > too many questions! let me stop here. > > > > > > > > my two cents! > > > > cheers > > > > mahalakshmi > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing% > 40>, " vreality_au " > > > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + > venus > > > > are > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > > > brilliant > > > > > musician. > > > > > > > > > > 22/2/83 > > > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the > charts > > > > of > > > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 > asp > > > > by > > > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " litsol " > > <litsol@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or > > > > reply to > > > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and > self > > > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name > that's > > > > why > > > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > > > other's > > > > > > work in my name. > > > > > > > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + > venus > > > > are > > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or > when > > > > rahu is > > > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 It's ok. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au " <reality_v wrote: > > he's really not that bad a fellow - Ive seen worse. Rather kind > hearted in fact. > > Su > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > wrote: > > > > Dear SU, > > > > 4 malifics in lagna means he is not a good man, regardless of the > > degree of celebrity status he has got. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au " > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > > > thank you for your response. > > > > > > As mentioned it reply to Mahalaksmi, the lad has been professional > > for > > > some time now, and recently completed a performance tour of the US. > > > > > > With regard to Ve in 12th, I was comparing his chart to another > > > professional musician, who also plays a stringed instrument. > > > > > > March, 16, 1968 > > > 7.50 am > > > 7.30+ > > > 101 E42, 3N10 > > > > > > This one also has VE [3/8L]in 12th but conj Me, asp by LL Ju in 6th. > > > Of course Ve in 12 could be a coincidence - I was looking at common > > > patterns, but there could be other reasons. I was also looking for a > > > 3L connection since, being instrumentalists the 3rd [for hands] > > should > > > be involved, or am I wrong? This chart is an interesting one with 4 > > > malefics in lagna. What gives him his celebrity status in his native > > > land? LL Ju asp 10th which happens to be his own hse? Ju is also > > > parivartan wth Sun in lagna. > > > > > > Btw, Mahalaksmi I neglected to mention, the Sangli chart with Moon > > > exalted in 2nd - the young man does sing well. > > > > > > regds > > > Su > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > > I agree with Mahalaxmi. I think in addition to what is already > > said, > > > the > > > > fact of 3rd lord Mercury going to the 10th and being dispositor > > of Rahu > > > > ( who also gives results of Mercury and Saturn) is also an > > indication > > > > that he could turn professional in his choice of music. You will > > also > > > > note that Mercury is in navamsha lagna. Venus in 12th by itself > > or > > > > conjunct Mars may not be the reason for the lad to be in music. > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > rama gopalakrishnan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear su > > > > > > > > > > i have glanced at your son's chart just now. > > > > > i think it has got more to do with the exalted moon in 2H from > > lagna > > > > > and the 3L from the rasi kundli which makes him interested in > > music > > > > > per se what with the benevolent jupiter's direct aspect on it. > > > > > > > > > > i do agree ven too is exalted but in the 12H and in the company > > of a > > > > > general malefic planet mars which also happens to be his LL as > > well > > > > > as the 8L if one considers lagna to be one of the parameters. > > > > > > > > > > did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got seriously > > > > > involved towards mid 2005? also does he like more of the hard > > rock > > > > > or jazz and pop music than softer versions? > > > > > his interest in music must be now on and now off kind? > > > > > too many questions! let me stop here. > > > > > > > > > > my two cents! > > > > > cheers > > > > > mahalakshmi > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing% > > 40>, " vreality_au " > > > > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > > > > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + > > venus > > > > > are > > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > > > > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > > > > brilliant > > > > > > musician. > > > > > > > > > > > > 22/2/83 > > > > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > > > > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the > > charts > > > > > of > > > > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 > > asp > > > > > by > > > > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing% 40>, " litsol " > > > <litsol@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or > > > > > reply to > > > > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and > > self > > > > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name > > that's > > > > > why > > > > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > > > > other's > > > > > > > work in my name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + > > venus > > > > > are > > > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or > > when > > > > > rahu is > > > > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Dear Su, In the second case, since the 2nd lord goes to the 12th the person is not a vocal singer, more so as Mercury also goes to the 12th. In the first case the 3rd lord goes to the 10th so professional singer. 3rd bhava also represents throat hence vocal singing connection with the 3rd and Moon giving liquidity to the voice its connection making the person be a vocal musician. that is the way I would look at it. It is said that if Sun goes to trine from Karakamsha, one takes to instrumental music (Jaimini) and that appears to be the case with the second chart. This person does have all malefics in Kendra (barring Moon who is however afflicted). I would think he would not take proper care of his body and may be a bit eccentric. Your logic of 3rd related to hands is not wrong, but why should that give only music and not artistic hands? So there has to be something more to it and that is perhaps connected to the 3rd lord and the lord of 3rd Rasi of natural zodiac being aspected by Jupiter the lagna and karma lord. So things to do with communication including dance and music but Moon being afflicted, not vocal music. Take care, Chandrashekhar. vreality_au wrote: Dear Chandrashekharji thank you for your response. As mentioned it reply to Mahalaksmi, the lad has been professional for some time now, and recently completed a performance tour of the US. With regard to Ve in 12th, I was comparing his chart to another professional musician, who also plays a stringed instrument. March, 16, 1968 7.50 am 7.30+ 101 E42, 3N10 This one also has VE [3/8L]in 12th but conj Me, asp by LL Ju in 6th. Of course Ve in 12 could be a coincidence - I was looking at common patterns, but there could be other reasons. I was also looking for a 3L connection since, being instrumentalists the 3rd [for hands] should be involved, or am I wrong? This chart is an interesting one with 4 malefics in lagna. What gives him his celebrity status in his native land? LL Ju asp 10th which happens to be his own hse? Ju is also parivartan wth Sun in lagna. Btw, Mahalaksmi I neglected to mention, the Sangli chart with Moon exalted in 2nd - the young man does sing well. regds Su Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Su, > I agree with Mahalaxmi. I think in addition to what is already said, the > fact of 3rd lord Mercury going to the 10th and being dispositor of Rahu > ( who also gives results of Mercury and Saturn) is also an indication > that he could turn professional in his choice of music. You will also > note that Mercury is in navamsha lagna. Venus in 12th by itself or > conjunct Mars may not be the reason for the lad to be in music. > > Chandrashekhar. > > rama gopalakrishnan wrote: > > > > dear su > > > > i have glanced at your son's chart just now. > > i think it has got more to do with the exalted moon in 2H from lagna > > and the 3L from the rasi kundli which makes him interested in music > > per se what with the benevolent jupiter's direct aspect on it. > > > > i do agree ven too is exalted but in the 12H and in the company of a > > general malefic planet mars which also happens to be his LL as well > > as the 8L if one considers lagna to be one of the parameters. > > > > did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got seriously > > involved towards mid 2005? also does he like more of the hard rock > > or jazz and pop music than softer versions? > > his interest in music must be now on and now off kind? > > too many questions! let me stop here. > > > > my two cents! > > cheers > > mahalakshmi > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, "vreality_au" > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > are > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > brilliant > > > musician. > > > > > > 22/2/83 > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts > > of > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp > > by > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > > thanks > > > > > > Su > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, "litsol" <litsol@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or > > reply to > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's > > why > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > other's > > > > work in my name. > > > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > are > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > > rahu is > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Dear Chadrakshekar ji thank you for your reply. A bit of a confusion tho: //In the second case, since the 2nd lord goes to the 12th the person is > not a vocal singer, more so as Mercury also goes to the 12th...// By second case you are refering to the 1968 chart? [March, 16, 1968 7.50 am, 7.30+, 101 E42, 3N10] I get Pi lag [using Jhora] with Mars, Ra, Sun, and Sa in lag. So 2nd lord Mars is in lag not 12th. 3rd lord, VE and 4th lord Mer, are in 12th. Moon in 7th in Vi conj Ke. Pls confirm. With ref to this person, he is health conscious, but suffers from sinus problems {but living in Malaysia whcih seems to be getting increasingly polluted each year, most people there seem to suffer from it. I suffer terribly from it myself each time I go there]. But he eats only one meal a day, something hes done most of his life from his music training days when he practised 16hrs a day. Eccentric..hmm..I would quite describe him tht way. Hes' a rather rational sort of fellow. Problematic relationships - I put it down to moon being afflicted in 7th, 7L Mer in 12, and Ve itself in 12th. rdgs Su Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Su, > > In the second case, since the 2nd lord goes to the 12th the person is > not a vocal singer, more so as Mercury also goes to the 12th. In the > first case the 3rd lord goes to the 10th so professional singer. 3rd > bhava also represents throat hence vocal singing connection with the 3rd > and Moon giving liquidity to the voice its connection making the person > be a vocal musician. that is the way I would look at it. > > It is said that if Sun goes to trine from Karakamsha, one takes to > instrumental music (Jaimini) and that appears to be the case with the > second chart. This person does have all malefics in Kendra (barring Moon > who is however afflicted). I would think he would not take proper care > of his body and may be a bit eccentric. Your logic of 3rd related to > hands is not wrong, but why should that give only music and not artistic > hands? So there has to be something more to it and that is perhaps > connected to the 3rd lord and the lord of 3rd Rasi of natural zodiac > being aspected by Jupiter the lagna and karma lord. So things to do with > communication including dance and music but Moon being afflicted, not > vocal music. > > Take care, > Chandrashekhar. > > vreality_au wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > thank you for your response. > > > > As mentioned it reply to Mahalaksmi, the lad has been professional for > > some time now, and recently completed a performance tour of the US. > > > > With regard to Ve in 12th, I was comparing his chart to another > > professional musician, who also plays a stringed instrument. > > > > March, 16, 1968 > > 7.50 am > > 7.30+ > > 101 E42, 3N10 > > > > This one also has VE [3/8L]in 12th but conj Me, asp by LL Ju in 6th. > > Of course Ve in 12 could be a coincidence - I was looking at common > > patterns, but there could be other reasons. I was also looking for a > > 3L connection since, being instrumentalists the 3rd [for hands] should > > be involved, or am I wrong? This chart is an interesting one with 4 > > malefics in lagna. What gives him his celebrity status in his native > > land? LL Ju asp 10th which happens to be his own hse? Ju is also > > parivartan wth Sun in lagna. > > > > Btw, Mahalaksmi I neglected to mention, the Sangli chart with Moon > > exalted in 2nd - the young man does sing well. > > > > regds > > Su > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > I agree with Mahalaxmi. I think in addition to what is already said, > > the > > > fact of 3rd lord Mercury going to the 10th and being dispositor of Rahu > > > ( who also gives results of Mercury and Saturn) is also an indication > > > that he could turn professional in his choice of music. You will also > > > note that Mercury is in navamsha lagna. Venus in 12th by itself or > > > conjunct Mars may not be the reason for the lad to be in music. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > rama gopalakrishnan wrote: > > > > > > > > dear su > > > > > > > > i have glanced at your son's chart just now. > > > > i think it has got more to do with the exalted moon in 2H from lagna > > > > and the 3L from the rasi kundli which makes him interested in music > > > > per se what with the benevolent jupiter's direct aspect on it. > > > > > > > > i do agree ven too is exalted but in the 12H and in the company of a > > > > general malefic planet mars which also happens to be his LL as well > > > > as the 8L if one considers lagna to be one of the parameters. > > > > > > > > did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got seriously > > > > involved towards mid 2005? also does he like more of the hard rock > > > > or jazz and pop music than softer versions? > > > > his interest in music must be now on and now off kind? > > > > too many questions! let me stop here. > > > > > > > > my two cents! > > > > cheers > > > > mahalakshmi > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " vreality_au " > > > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > > > are > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > > > brilliant > > > > > musician. > > > > > > > > > > 22/2/83 > > > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts > > > > of > > > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp > > > > by > > > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " litsol " > > <litsol@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or > > > > reply to > > > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's > > > > why > > > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > > > other's > > > > > > work in my name. > > > > > > > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > > > are > > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > > > > rahu is > > > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Dear Chandrashekharji //It is said that if Sun goes to trine from Karakamsha, one takes to > instrumental music (Jaimini)// this certainly applies to me.. my Karakamsha is Sagg and Sun is in Ar. rgds Su Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Su, > > In the second case, since the 2nd lord goes to the 12th the person is > not a vocal singer, more so as Mercury also goes to the 12th. In the > first case the 3rd lord goes to the 10th so professional singer. 3rd > bhava also represents throat hence vocal singing connection with the 3rd > and Moon giving liquidity to the voice its connection making the person > be a vocal musician. that is the way I would look at it. > > It is said that if Sun goes to trine from Karakamsha, one takes to > instrumental music (Jaimini) and that appears to be the case with the > second chart. This person does have all malefics in Kendra (barring Moon > who is however afflicted). I would think he would not take proper care > of his body and may be a bit eccentric. Your logic of 3rd related to > hands is not wrong, but why should that give only music and not artistic > hands? So there has to be something more to it and that is perhaps > connected to the 3rd lord and the lord of 3rd Rasi of natural zodiac > being aspected by Jupiter the lagna and karma lord. So things to do with > communication including dance and music but Moon being afflicted, not > vocal music. > > Take care, > Chandrashekhar. > > vreality_au wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > thank you for your response. > > > > As mentioned it reply to Mahalaksmi, the lad has been professional for > > some time now, and recently completed a performance tour of the US. > > > > With regard to Ve in 12th, I was comparing his chart to another > > professional musician, who also plays a stringed instrument. > > > > March, 16, 1968 > > 7.50 am > > 7.30+ > > 101 E42, 3N10 > > > > This one also has VE [3/8L]in 12th but conj Me, asp by LL Ju in 6th. > > Of course Ve in 12 could be a coincidence - I was looking at common > > patterns, but there could be other reasons. I was also looking for a > > 3L connection since, being instrumentalists the 3rd [for hands] should > > be involved, or am I wrong? This chart is an interesting one with 4 > > malefics in lagna. What gives him his celebrity status in his native > > land? LL Ju asp 10th which happens to be his own hse? Ju is also > > parivartan wth Sun in lagna. > > > > Btw, Mahalaksmi I neglected to mention, the Sangli chart with Moon > > exalted in 2nd - the young man does sing well. > > > > regds > > Su > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > I agree with Mahalaxmi. I think in addition to what is already said, > > the > > > fact of 3rd lord Mercury going to the 10th and being dispositor of Rahu > > > ( who also gives results of Mercury and Saturn) is also an indication > > > that he could turn professional in his choice of music. You will also > > > note that Mercury is in navamsha lagna. Venus in 12th by itself or > > > conjunct Mars may not be the reason for the lad to be in music. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > rama gopalakrishnan wrote: > > > > > > > > dear su > > > > > > > > i have glanced at your son's chart just now. > > > > i think it has got more to do with the exalted moon in 2H from lagna > > > > and the 3L from the rasi kundli which makes him interested in music > > > > per se what with the benevolent jupiter's direct aspect on it. > > > > > > > > i do agree ven too is exalted but in the 12H and in the company of a > > > > general malefic planet mars which also happens to be his LL as well > > > > as the 8L if one considers lagna to be one of the parameters. > > > > > > > > did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got seriously > > > > involved towards mid 2005? also does he like more of the hard rock > > > > or jazz and pop music than softer versions? > > > > his interest in music must be now on and now off kind? > > > > too many questions! let me stop here. > > > > > > > > my two cents! > > > > cheers > > > > mahalakshmi > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " vreality_au " > > > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > > > are > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > > > brilliant > > > > > musician. > > > > > > > > > > 22/2/83 > > > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts > > > > of > > > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp > > > > by > > > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " litsol " > > <litsol@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or > > > > reply to > > > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's > > > > why > > > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > > > other's > > > > > > work in my name. > > > > > > > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > > > are > > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > > > > rahu is > > > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Dear Su, I am sorry for the typo. read 3rd lord (Venus) and Mercury. It is Pisces lagna. Look at the planets in the lagna. 2nd lord Mars is afflicted by Rahu, so it is not surprising that he is not into eating much. At the same time, I would not be surprised if he is either into chewing tobacco or smoking or other forms of intoxicants. If the chart is right, he must be subject to mood swings. Or at least that is how I would interpret the chart. Take care, Chandrashekhar. vreality_au wrote: Dear Chadrakshekar ji thank you for your reply. A bit of a confusion tho: //In the second case, since the 2nd lord goes to the 12th the person is > not a vocal singer, more so as Mercury also goes to the 12th...// By second case you are refering to the 1968 chart? [March, 16, 1968 7.50 am, 7.30+, 101 E42, 3N10] I get Pi lag [using Jhora] with Mars, Ra, Sun, and Sa in lag. So 2nd lord Mars is in lag not 12th. 3rd lord, VE and 4th lord Mer, are in 12th. Moon in 7th in Vi conj Ke. Pls confirm. With ref to this person, he is health conscious, but suffers from sinus problems {but living in Malaysia whcih seems to be getting increasingly polluted each year, most people there seem to suffer from it. I suffer terribly from it myself each time I go there]. But he eats only one meal a day, something hes done most of his life from his music training days when he practised 16hrs a day. Eccentric..hmm..I would quite describe him tht way. Hes' a rather rational sort of fellow. Problematic relationships - I put it down to moon being afflicted in 7th, 7L Mer in 12, and Ve itself in 12th. rdgs Su Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Su, > > In the second case, since the 2nd lord goes to the 12th the person is > not a vocal singer, more so as Mercury also goes to the 12th. In the > first case the 3rd lord goes to the 10th so professional singer. 3rd > bhava also represents throat hence vocal singing connection with the 3rd > and Moon giving liquidity to the voice its connection making the person > be a vocal musician. that is the way I would look at it. > > It is said that if Sun goes to trine from Karakamsha, one takes to > instrumental music (Jaimini) and that appears to be the case with the > second chart. This person does have all malefics in Kendra (barring Moon > who is however afflicted). I would think he would not take proper care > of his body and may be a bit eccentric. Your logic of 3rd related to > hands is not wrong, but why should that give only music and not artistic > hands? So there has to be something more to it and that is perhaps > connected to the 3rd lord and the lord of 3rd Rasi of natural zodiac > being aspected by Jupiter the lagna and karma lord. So things to do with > communication including dance and music but Moon being afflicted, not > vocal music. > > Take care, > Chandrashekhar. > > vreality_au wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > thank you for your response. > > > > As mentioned it reply to Mahalaksmi, the lad has been professional for > > some time now, and recently completed a performance tour of the US. > > > > With regard to Ve in 12th, I was comparing his chart to another > > professional musician, who also plays a stringed instrument. > > > > March, 16, 1968 > > 7.50 am > > 7.30+ > > 101 E42, 3N10 > > > > This one also has VE [3/8L]in 12th but conj Me, asp by LL Ju in 6th. > > Of course Ve in 12 could be a coincidence - I was looking at common > > patterns, but there could be other reasons. I was also looking for a > > 3L connection since, being instrumentalists the 3rd [for hands] should > > be involved, or am I wrong? This chart is an interesting one with 4 > > malefics in lagna. What gives him his celebrity status in his native > > land? LL Ju asp 10th which happens to be his own hse? Ju is also > > parivartan wth Sun in lagna. > > > > Btw, Mahalaksmi I neglected to mention, the Sangli chart with Moon > > exalted in 2nd - the young man does sing well. > > > > regds > > Su > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > I agree with Mahalaxmi. I think in addition to what is already said, > > the > > > fact of 3rd lord Mercury going to the 10th and being dispositor of Rahu > > > ( who also gives results of Mercury and Saturn) is also an indication > > > that he could turn professional in his choice of music. You will also > > > note that Mercury is in navamsha lagna. Venus in 12th by itself or > > > conjunct Mars may not be the reason for the lad to be in music. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > rama gopalakrishnan wrote: > > > > > > > > dear su > > > > > > > > i have glanced at your son's chart just now. > > > > i think it has got more to do with the exalted moon in 2H from lagna > > > > and the 3L from the rasi kundli which makes him interested in music > > > > per se what with the benevolent jupiter's direct aspect on it. > > > > > > > > i do agree ven too is exalted but in the 12H and in the company of a > > > > general malefic planet mars which also happens to be his LL as well > > > > as the 8L if one considers lagna to be one of the parameters. > > > > > > > > did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got seriously > > > > involved towards mid 2005? also does he like more of the hard rock > > > > or jazz and pop music than softer versions? > > > > his interest in music must be now on and now off kind? > > > > too many questions! let me stop here. > > > > > > > > my two cents! > > > > cheers > > > > mahalakshmi > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, "vreality_au" > > > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > > > are > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > > > brilliant > > > > > musician. > > > > > > > > > > 22/2/83 > > > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts > > > > of > > > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp > > > > by > > > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, "litsol" > > <litsol@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or > > > > reply to > > > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's > > > > why > > > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > > > other's > > > > > > work in my name. > > > > > > > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > > > are > > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > > > > rahu is > > > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Dear Chandrashekharji Yes you are right - he does smoke! But I hvent noticed any mood swings. Always cheerful and upbeat with a positive attitude,perhaps he has no time to be otherwise. Day is completely full with teaching music, practice, performances etc, his phone never seems to stop ringing. Tends to be somewhat impatient with students tho, on account for his demands for perfection - but seems to be mellowing with age. Sir, is moon an important planet for vocal music? thank you for your patient feedback, Su Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Su, > I am sorry for the typo. read 3rd lord (Venus) and Mercury. It is Pisces > lagna. Look at the planets in the lagna. 2nd lord Mars is afflicted by > Rahu, so it is not surprising that he is not into eating much. At the > same time, I would not be surprised if he is either into chewing tobacco > or smoking or other forms of intoxicants. If the chart is right, he must > be subject to mood swings. Or at least that is how I would interpret the > chart. > > Take care, > > Chandrashekhar. > > > vreality_au wrote: > > > > Dear Chadrakshekar ji > > > > thank you for your reply. A bit of a confusion tho: > > > > //In the second case, since the 2nd lord goes to the 12th the person is > > > not a vocal singer, more so as Mercury also goes to the 12th...// > > > > By second case you are refering to the 1968 chart? [March, 16, 1968 > > 7.50 am, 7.30+, 101 E42, 3N10] > > > > I get Pi lag [using Jhora] with Mars, Ra, Sun, and Sa in lag. So 2nd > > lord Mars is in lag not 12th. 3rd lord, VE and 4th lord Mer, are in > > 12th. Moon in 7th in Vi conj Ke. > > > > Pls confirm. > > > > With ref to this person, he is health conscious, but suffers from > > sinus problems {but living in Malaysia whcih seems to be getting > > increasingly polluted each year, most people there seem to suffer from > > it. I suffer terribly from it myself each time I go there]. But he > > eats only one meal a day, something hes done most of his life from his > > music training days when he practised 16hrs a day. Eccentric..hmm..I > > would quite describe him tht way. Hes' a rather rational sort of fellow. > > > > Problematic relationships - I put it down to moon being afflicted in > > 7th, 7L Mer in 12, and Ve itself in 12th. > > > > rdgs > > Su > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > > > > In the second case, since the 2nd lord goes to the 12th the person is > > > not a vocal singer, more so as Mercury also goes to the 12th. In the > > > first case the 3rd lord goes to the 10th so professional singer. 3rd > > > bhava also represents throat hence vocal singing connection with the > > 3rd > > > and Moon giving liquidity to the voice its connection making the person > > > be a vocal musician. that is the way I would look at it. > > > > > > It is said that if Sun goes to trine from Karakamsha, one takes to > > > instrumental music (Jaimini) and that appears to be the case with the > > > second chart. This person does have all malefics in Kendra (barring > > Moon > > > who is however afflicted). I would think he would not take proper care > > > of his body and may be a bit eccentric. Your logic of 3rd related to > > > hands is not wrong, but why should that give only music and not > > artistic > > > hands? So there has to be something more to it and that is perhaps > > > connected to the 3rd lord and the lord of 3rd Rasi of natural zodiac > > > being aspected by Jupiter the lagna and karma lord. So things to do > > with > > > communication including dance and music but Moon being afflicted, not > > > vocal music. > > > > > > Take care, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > vreality_au wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > > > > > thank you for your response. > > > > > > > > As mentioned it reply to Mahalaksmi, the lad has been professional for > > > > some time now, and recently completed a performance tour of the US. > > > > > > > > With regard to Ve in 12th, I was comparing his chart to another > > > > professional musician, who also plays a stringed instrument. > > > > > > > > March, 16, 1968 > > > > 7.50 am > > > > 7.30+ > > > > 101 E42, 3N10 > > > > > > > > This one also has VE [3/8L]in 12th but conj Me, asp by LL Ju in 6th. > > > > Of course Ve in 12 could be a coincidence - I was looking at common > > > > patterns, but there could be other reasons. I was also looking for a > > > > 3L connection since, being instrumentalists the 3rd [for hands] should > > > > be involved, or am I wrong? This chart is an interesting one with 4 > > > > malefics in lagna. What gives him his celebrity status in his native > > > > land? LL Ju asp 10th which happens to be his own hse? Ju is also > > > > parivartan wth Sun in lagna. > > > > > > > > Btw, Mahalaksmi I neglected to mention, the Sangli chart with Moon > > > > exalted in 2nd - the young man does sing well. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Su > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > > > I agree with Mahalaxmi. I think in addition to what is already said, > > > > the > > > > > fact of 3rd lord Mercury going to the 10th and being dispositor > > of Rahu > > > > > ( who also gives results of Mercury and Saturn) is also an > > indication > > > > > that he could turn professional in his choice of music. You will > > also > > > > > note that Mercury is in navamsha lagna. Venus in 12th by itself or > > > > > conjunct Mars may not be the reason for the lad to be in music. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > rama gopalakrishnan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear su > > > > > > > > > > > > i have glanced at your son's chart just now. > > > > > > i think it has got more to do with the exalted moon in 2H from > > lagna > > > > > > and the 3L from the rasi kundli which makes him interested in > > music > > > > > > per se what with the benevolent jupiter's direct aspect on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > i do agree ven too is exalted but in the 12H and in the > > company of a > > > > > > general malefic planet mars which also happens to be his LL as > > well > > > > > > as the 8L if one considers lagna to be one of the parameters. > > > > > > > > > > > > did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got seriously > > > > > > involved towards mid 2005? also does he like more of the hard rock > > > > > > or jazz and pop music than softer versions? > > > > > > his interest in music must be now on and now off kind? > > > > > > too many questions! let me stop here. > > > > > > > > > > > > my two cents! > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > mahalakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " vreality_au " > > > > > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > > > > > are > > > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > > > > > brilliant > > > > > > > musician. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 22/2/83 > > > > > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the > > charts > > > > > > of > > > > > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in > > 12 asp > > > > > > by > > > > > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " litsol " > > > > <litsol@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or > > > > > > reply to > > > > > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > > > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name > > that's > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > > > > > other's > > > > > > > > work in my name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > > > > > > rahu is > > > > > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 You are only looking his positive energies, his potential and overlooking what he is internally, dont watch what is shown, watch that also which is kept under cover, try to read why a particular type of life style adopted... reading a person needs only 5 - 10 minutes,if u meet somebody, personally or read just 2 - 3 mails, u will come to know what mind he has got. there will be a mood swing .. as Sri Chandrashekhar ji has said, now, it's upto us to find out if we can ignore this mood swing, if this is in our favor or not, we have to judge. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au " <reality_v wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > Yes you are right - he does smoke! But I hvent noticed any mood > swings. Always cheerful and upbeat with a positive attitude,perhaps he > has no time to be otherwise. Day is completely full with teaching > music, practice, performances etc, his phone never seems to stop > ringing. Tends to be somewhat impatient with students tho, on account > for his demands for perfection - but seems to be mellowing with age. > > Sir, is moon an important planet for vocal music? > > thank you for your patient feedback, > Su > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Su, > > I am sorry for the typo. read 3rd lord (Venus) and Mercury. It is > Pisces > > lagna. Look at the planets in the lagna. 2nd lord Mars is afflicted by > > Rahu, so it is not surprising that he is not into eating much. At the > > same time, I would not be surprised if he is either into chewing > tobacco > > or smoking or other forms of intoxicants. If the chart is right, he > must > > be subject to mood swings. Or at least that is how I would interpret > the > > chart. > > > > Take care, > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > vreality_au wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chadrakshekar ji > > > > > > thank you for your reply. A bit of a confusion tho: > > > > > > //In the second case, since the 2nd lord goes to the 12th the > person is > > > > not a vocal singer, more so as Mercury also goes to the 12th...// > > > > > > By second case you are refering to the 1968 chart? [March, 16, 1968 > > > 7.50 am, 7.30+, 101 E42, 3N10] > > > > > > I get Pi lag [using Jhora] with Mars, Ra, Sun, and Sa in lag. So 2nd > > > lord Mars is in lag not 12th. 3rd lord, VE and 4th lord Mer, are in > > > 12th. Moon in 7th in Vi conj Ke. > > > > > > Pls confirm. > > > > > > With ref to this person, he is health conscious, but suffers from > > > sinus problems {but living in Malaysia whcih seems to be getting > > > increasingly polluted each year, most people there seem to suffer from > > > it. I suffer terribly from it myself each time I go there]. But he > > > eats only one meal a day, something hes done most of his life from his > > > music training days when he practised 16hrs a day. Eccentric..hmm..I > > > would quite describe him tht way. Hes' a rather rational sort of > fellow. > > > > > > Problematic relationships - I put it down to moon being afflicted in > > > 7th, 7L Mer in 12, and Ve itself in 12th. > > > > > > rdgs > > > Su > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > > > > > > In the second case, since the 2nd lord goes to the 12th the > person is > > > > not a vocal singer, more so as Mercury also goes to the 12th. In the > > > > first case the 3rd lord goes to the 10th so professional singer. 3rd > > > > bhava also represents throat hence vocal singing connection with the > > > 3rd > > > > and Moon giving liquidity to the voice its connection making the > person > > > > be a vocal musician. that is the way I would look at it. > > > > > > > > It is said that if Sun goes to trine from Karakamsha, one takes to > > > > instrumental music (Jaimini) and that appears to be the case > with the > > > > second chart. This person does have all malefics in Kendra (barring > > > Moon > > > > who is however afflicted). I would think he would not take > proper care > > > > of his body and may be a bit eccentric. Your logic of 3rd related to > > > > hands is not wrong, but why should that give only music and not > > > artistic > > > > hands? So there has to be something more to it and that is perhaps > > > > connected to the 3rd lord and the lord of 3rd Rasi of natural zodiac > > > > being aspected by Jupiter the lagna and karma lord. So things to do > > > with > > > > communication including dance and music but Moon being > afflicted, not > > > > vocal music. > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > vreality_au wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > > > > > > > thank you for your response. > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned it reply to Mahalaksmi, the lad has been > professional for > > > > > some time now, and recently completed a performance tour of > the US. > > > > > > > > > > With regard to Ve in 12th, I was comparing his chart to another > > > > > professional musician, who also plays a stringed instrument. > > > > > > > > > > March, 16, 1968 > > > > > 7.50 am > > > > > 7.30+ > > > > > 101 E42, 3N10 > > > > > > > > > > This one also has VE [3/8L]in 12th but conj Me, asp by LL Ju > in 6th. > > > > > Of course Ve in 12 could be a coincidence - I was looking at > common > > > > > patterns, but there could be other reasons. I was also looking > for a > > > > > 3L connection since, being instrumentalists the 3rd [for > hands] should > > > > > be involved, or am I wrong? This chart is an interesting one > with 4 > > > > > malefics in lagna. What gives him his celebrity status in his > native > > > > > land? LL Ju asp 10th which happens to be his own hse? Ju is also > > > > > parivartan wth Sun in lagna. > > > > > > > > > > Btw, Mahalaksmi I neglected to mention, the Sangli chart with Moon > > > > > exalted in 2nd - the young man does sing well. > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > Chandrashekhar > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > > > > I agree with Mahalaxmi. I think in addition to what is > already said, > > > > > the > > > > > > fact of 3rd lord Mercury going to the 10th and being dispositor > > > of Rahu > > > > > > ( who also gives results of Mercury and Saturn) is also an > > > indication > > > > > > that he could turn professional in his choice of music. You will > > > also > > > > > > note that Mercury is in navamsha lagna. Venus in 12th by > itself or > > > > > > conjunct Mars may not be the reason for the lad to be in music. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > rama gopalakrishnan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear su > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have glanced at your son's chart just now. > > > > > > > i think it has got more to do with the exalted moon in 2H from > > > lagna > > > > > > > and the 3L from the rasi kundli which makes him interested in > > > music > > > > > > > per se what with the benevolent jupiter's direct aspect on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i do agree ven too is exalted but in the 12H and in the > > > company of a > > > > > > > general malefic planet mars which also happens to be his LL as > > > well > > > > > > > as the 8L if one considers lagna to be one of the parameters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got > seriously > > > > > > > involved towards mid 2005? also does he like more of the > hard rock > > > > > > > or jazz and pop music than softer versions? > > > > > > > his interest in music must be now on and now off kind? > > > > > > > too many questions! let me stop here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my two cents! > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > mahalakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > " vreality_au " > > > > > > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars > + venus > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > > > > > > brilliant > > > > > > > > musician. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 22/2/83 > > > > > > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the > > > charts > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in > > > 12 asp > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing% 40>, " litsol " > > > > > <litsol@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post > messages or > > > > > > > reply to > > > > > > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts > and self > > > > > > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name > > > that's > > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy > to post > > > > > > > other's > > > > > > > > > work in my name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars > + venus > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house > or when > > > > > > > rahu is > > > > > > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the > power of > > > > > > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Dear Su, It is good that he does not get mood swings. Moon afflicted with Ketu does make one a bit eccentric and have changeable mood. Moon is certainly important for vocal music, as it gives the fluidity to voice. Take care, Chandrashekhar. vreality_au wrote: Dear Chandrashekharji Yes you are right - he does smoke! But I hvent noticed any mood swings. Always cheerful and upbeat with a positive attitude,perhaps he has no time to be otherwise. Day is completely full with teaching music, practice, performances etc, his phone never seems to stop ringing. Tends to be somewhat impatient with students tho, on account for his demands for perfection - but seems to be mellowing with age. Sir, is moon an important planet for vocal music? thank you for your patient feedback, Su Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Su, > I am sorry for the typo. read 3rd lord (Venus) and Mercury. It is Pisces > lagna. Look at the planets in the lagna. 2nd lord Mars is afflicted by > Rahu, so it is not surprising that he is not into eating much. At the > same time, I would not be surprised if he is either into chewing tobacco > or smoking or other forms of intoxicants. If the chart is right, he must > be subject to mood swings. Or at least that is how I would interpret the > chart. > > Take care, > > Chandrashekhar. > > > vreality_au wrote: > > > > Dear Chadrakshekar ji > > > > thank you for your reply. A bit of a confusion tho: > > > > //In the second case, since the 2nd lord goes to the 12th the person is > > > not a vocal singer, more so as Mercury also goes to the 12th...// > > > > By second case you are refering to the 1968 chart? [March, 16, 1968 > > 7.50 am, 7.30+, 101 E42, 3N10] > > > > I get Pi lag [using Jhora] with Mars, Ra, Sun, and Sa in lag. So 2nd > > lord Mars is in lag not 12th. 3rd lord, VE and 4th lord Mer, are in > > 12th. Moon in 7th in Vi conj Ke. > > > > Pls confirm. > > > > With ref to this person, he is health conscious, but suffers from > > sinus problems {but living in Malaysia whcih seems to be getting > > increasingly polluted each year, most people there seem to suffer from > > it. I suffer terribly from it myself each time I go there]. But he > > eats only one meal a day, something hes done most of his life from his > > music training days when he practised 16hrs a day. Eccentric..hmm..I > > would quite describe him tht way. Hes' a rather rational sort of fellow. > > > > Problematic relationships - I put it down to moon being afflicted in > > 7th, 7L Mer in 12, and Ve itself in 12th. > > > > rdgs > > Su > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > > > > In the second case, since the 2nd lord goes to the 12th the person is > > > not a vocal singer, more so as Mercury also goes to the 12th. In the > > > first case the 3rd lord goes to the 10th so professional singer. 3rd > > > bhava also represents throat hence vocal singing connection with the > > 3rd > > > and Moon giving liquidity to the voice its connection making the person > > > be a vocal musician. that is the way I would look at it. > > > > > > It is said that if Sun goes to trine from Karakamsha, one takes to > > > instrumental music (Jaimini) and that appears to be the case with the > > > second chart. This person does have all malefics in Kendra (barring > > Moon > > > who is however afflicted). I would think he would not take proper care > > > of his body and may be a bit eccentric. Your logic of 3rd related to > > > hands is not wrong, but why should that give only music and not > > artistic > > > hands? So there has to be something more to it and that is perhaps > > > connected to the 3rd lord and the lord of 3rd Rasi of natural zodiac > > > being aspected by Jupiter the lagna and karma lord. So things to do > > with > > > communication including dance and music but Moon being afflicted, not > > > vocal music. > > > > > > Take care, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > vreality_au wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > > > > > thank you for your response. > > > > > > > > As mentioned it reply to Mahalaksmi, the lad has been professional for > > > > some time now, and recently completed a performance tour of the US. > > > > > > > > With regard to Ve in 12th, I was comparing his chart to another > > > > professional musician, who also plays a stringed instrument. > > > > > > > > March, 16, 1968 > > > > 7.50 am > > > > 7.30+ > > > > 101 E42, 3N10 > > > > > > > > This one also has VE [3/8L]in 12th but conj Me, asp by LL Ju in 6th. > > > > Of course Ve in 12 could be a coincidence - I was looking at common > > > > patterns, but there could be other reasons. I was also looking for a > > > > 3L connection since, being instrumentalists the 3rd [for hands] should > > > > be involved, or am I wrong? This chart is an interesting one with 4 > > > > malefics in lagna. What gives him his celebrity status in his native > > > > land? LL Ju asp 10th which happens to be his own hse? Ju is also > > > > parivartan wth Sun in lagna. > > > > > > > > Btw, Mahalaksmi I neglected to mention, the Sangli chart with Moon > > > > exalted in 2nd - the young man does sing well. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Su > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > > > I agree with Mahalaxmi. I think in addition to what is already said, > > > > the > > > > > fact of 3rd lord Mercury going to the 10th and being dispositor > > of Rahu > > > > > ( who also gives results of Mercury and Saturn) is also an > > indication > > > > > that he could turn professional in his choice of music. You will > > also > > > > > note that Mercury is in navamsha lagna. Venus in 12th by itself or > > > > > conjunct Mars may not be the reason for the lad to be in music. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > rama gopalakrishnan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear su > > > > > > > > > > > > i have glanced at your son's chart just now. > > > > > > i think it has got more to do with the exalted moon in 2H from > > lagna > > > > > > and the 3L from the rasi kundli which makes him interested in > > music > > > > > > per se what with the benevolent jupiter's direct aspect on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > i do agree ven too is exalted but in the 12H and in the > > company of a > > > > > > general malefic planet mars which also happens to be his LL as > > well > > > > > > as the 8L if one considers lagna to be one of the parameters. > > > > > > > > > > > > did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got seriously > > > > > > involved towards mid 2005? also does he like more of the hard rock > > > > > > or jazz and pop music than softer versions? > > > > > > his interest in music must be now on and now off kind? > > > > > > too many questions! let me stop here. > > > > > > > > > > > > my two cents! > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > mahalakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, "vreality_au" > > > > > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > > > > > are > > > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > > > > > brilliant > > > > > > > musician. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 22/2/83 > > > > > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the > > charts > > > > > > of > > > > > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in > > 12 asp > > > > > > by > > > > > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, "litsol" > > > > <litsol@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or > > > > > > reply to > > > > > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > > > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name > > that's > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > > > > > other's > > > > > > > > work in my name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > > > > > > rahu is > > > > > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Dear Chandrashekarji Yes I hve read that about Moon/Kethu and have been wondering why he doesnt display such traits. I have a another chart Moon conj Kethu and the native does display the traits you mentioned. However I also came across somewhere that Moon/kethu gives detachment to the mind/emotions. This native's life is entirely devoted to music, and he lives a somewhat disciplined and spartan life-style. While he does have many friends he doesnt seem to have any strong personal attachments. He in fact seems somewhat detached from his own emotions -which is prob one of the reasons why his relationships dont often work out [apart fr the fact tht music in his life takes precedence over everything else!]. Could the conj be manifesting in this manner? What do you think? thank you Su Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Su, > > It is good that he does not get mood swings. Moon afflicted with Ketu > does make one a bit eccentric and have changeable mood. Moon is > certainly important for vocal music, as it gives the fluidity to voice. > > Take care, > Chandrashekhar. > > > > vreality_au wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > Yes you are right - he does smoke! But I hvent noticed any mood > > swings. Always cheerful and upbeat with a positive attitude,perhaps he > > has no time to be otherwise. Day is completely full with teaching > > music, practice, performances etc, his phone never seems to stop > > ringing. Tends to be somewhat impatient with students tho, on account > > for his demands for perfection - but seems to be mellowing with age. > > > > Sir, is moon an important planet for vocal music? > > > > thank you for your patient feedback, > > Su > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > I am sorry for the typo. read 3rd lord (Venus) and Mercury. It is > > Pisces > > > lagna. Look at the planets in the lagna. 2nd lord Mars is afflicted by > > > Rahu, so it is not surprising that he is not into eating much. At the > > > same time, I would not be surprised if he is either into chewing > > tobacco > > > or smoking or other forms of intoxicants. If the chart is right, he > > must > > > be subject to mood swings. Or at least that is how I would interpret > > the > > > chart. > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > vreality_au wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chadrakshekar ji > > > > > > > > thank you for your reply. A bit of a confusion tho: > > > > > > > > //In the second case, since the 2nd lord goes to the 12th the > > person is > > > > > not a vocal singer, more so as Mercury also goes to the 12th...// > > > > > > > > By second case you are refering to the 1968 chart? [March, 16, 1968 > > > > 7.50 am, 7.30+, 101 E42, 3N10] > > > > > > > > I get Pi lag [using Jhora] with Mars, Ra, Sun, and Sa in lag. So 2nd > > > > lord Mars is in lag not 12th. 3rd lord, VE and 4th lord Mer, are in > > > > 12th. Moon in 7th in Vi conj Ke. > > > > > > > > Pls confirm. > > > > > > > > With ref to this person, he is health conscious, but suffers from > > > > sinus problems {but living in Malaysia whcih seems to be getting > > > > increasingly polluted each year, most people there seem to suffer from > > > > it. I suffer terribly from it myself each time I go there]. But he > > > > eats only one meal a day, something hes done most of his life from his > > > > music training days when he practised 16hrs a day. Eccentric..hmm..I > > > > would quite describe him tht way. Hes' a rather rational sort of > > fellow. > > > > > > > > Problematic relationships - I put it down to moon being afflicted in > > > > 7th, 7L Mer in 12, and Ve itself in 12th. > > > > > > > > rdgs > > > > Su > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > > > > > > > > In the second case, since the 2nd lord goes to the 12th the > > person is > > > > > not a vocal singer, more so as Mercury also goes to the 12th. In the > > > > > first case the 3rd lord goes to the 10th so professional singer. 3rd > > > > > bhava also represents throat hence vocal singing connection with the > > > > 3rd > > > > > and Moon giving liquidity to the voice its connection making the > > person > > > > > be a vocal musician. that is the way I would look at it. > > > > > > > > > > It is said that if Sun goes to trine from Karakamsha, one takes to > > > > > instrumental music (Jaimini) and that appears to be the case > > with the > > > > > second chart. This person does have all malefics in Kendra (barring > > > > Moon > > > > > who is however afflicted). I would think he would not take > > proper care > > > > > of his body and may be a bit eccentric. Your logic of 3rd related to > > > > > hands is not wrong, but why should that give only music and not > > > > artistic > > > > > hands? So there has to be something more to it and that is perhaps > > > > > connected to the 3rd lord and the lord of 3rd Rasi of natural zodiac > > > > > being aspected by Jupiter the lagna and karma lord. So things to do > > > > with > > > > > communication including dance and music but Moon being > > afflicted, not > > > > > vocal music. > > > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > vreality_au wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you for your response. > > > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned it reply to Mahalaksmi, the lad has been > > professional for > > > > > > some time now, and recently completed a performance tour of > > the US. > > > > > > > > > > > > With regard to Ve in 12th, I was comparing his chart to another > > > > > > professional musician, who also plays a stringed instrument. > > > > > > > > > > > > March, 16, 1968 > > > > > > 7.50 am > > > > > > 7.30+ > > > > > > 101 E42, 3N10 > > > > > > > > > > > > This one also has VE [3/8L]in 12th but conj Me, asp by LL Ju > > in 6th. > > > > > > Of course Ve in 12 could be a coincidence - I was looking at > > common > > > > > > patterns, but there could be other reasons. I was also looking > > for a > > > > > > 3L connection since, being instrumentalists the 3rd [for > > hands] should > > > > > > be involved, or am I wrong? This chart is an interesting one > > with 4 > > > > > > malefics in lagna. What gives him his celebrity status in his > > native > > > > > > land? LL Ju asp 10th which happens to be his own hse? Ju is also > > > > > > parivartan wth Sun in lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > Btw, Mahalaksmi I neglected to mention, the Sangli chart with Moon > > > > > > exalted in 2nd - the young man does sing well. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > > > > > I agree with Mahalaxmi. I think in addition to what is > > already said, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > fact of 3rd lord Mercury going to the 10th and being dispositor > > > > of Rahu > > > > > > > ( who also gives results of Mercury and Saturn) is also an > > > > indication > > > > > > > that he could turn professional in his choice of music. You will > > > > also > > > > > > > note that Mercury is in navamsha lagna. Venus in 12th by > > itself or > > > > > > > conjunct Mars may not be the reason for the lad to be in music. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rama gopalakrishnan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear su > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have glanced at your son's chart just now. > > > > > > > > i think it has got more to do with the exalted moon in 2H from > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > and the 3L from the rasi kundli which makes him interested in > > > > music > > > > > > > > per se what with the benevolent jupiter's direct aspect on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i do agree ven too is exalted but in the 12H and in the > > > > company of a > > > > > > > > general malefic planet mars which also happens to be his LL as > > > > well > > > > > > > > as the 8L if one considers lagna to be one of the parameters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > did he take interest in music from early 2003 and got > > seriously > > > > > > > > involved towards mid 2005? also does he like more of the > > hard rock > > > > > > > > or jazz and pop music than softer versions? > > > > > > > > his interest in music must be now on and now off kind? > > > > > > > > too many questions! let me stop here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my two cents! > > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > mahalakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > " vreality_au " > > > > > > > > <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit, Gurujis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars > > + venus > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > > > > > > > brilliant > > > > > > > > > musician. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 22/2/83 > > > > > > > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra,India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the > > > > charts > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in > > > > 12 asp > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated. > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, " litsol " > > > > > > <litsol@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post > > messages or > > > > > > > > reply to > > > > > > > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts > > and self > > > > > > > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name > > > > that's > > > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy > > to post > > > > > > > > other's > > > > > > > > > > work in my name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Google then Google. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars > > + venus > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house > > or when > > > > > > > > rahu is > > > > > > > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the > > power of > > > > > > > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beware !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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