Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hi All, The twelfth house ---- Any planet in the twelfth house will give the person qualities with respect to that planet or combination of planets. Now the thing is how to deduce the effect... So for that judge according to the rules given below: 1. If the planet is in enemy house he will be a critic of the trait represented by the combination of planets. 2. If the planet is in friend sign he will be good in those traits. 3. If the planet is debilitated, he will be a destructor of that trait(e.g., art or science with respect to that planet). 4. If the planet is exalted he will be enriched in that art and can even attain fame with respect to that trait. Likewise planetary and thereafter sign aspect (nakshatra lord being important in this) will manipulate this positively and negatively accordingly. To know when these traits will be in prominence in that person find the days of that nakshatra in which the corresponding planet is and the time can be found by the combinatorial effect of nakshatra lord and lagna. Thanks and regards, Amit Sinha "Vedic Astrologyandhealing " <Vedic Astrologyandhealing >Vedic Astrologyandhealing Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:21:42 PM[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Digest Number 196 vaidikastrologyandhealing Messages In This Digest (19 Messages) 1a. AATHREYA - Makara Sankraanthi Doctor.BalaKrishnaMurthy Ramaraju,BS,MBBS 1b. Re: AATHREYA - Makara Sankraanthi litsol 2.1. Re: Mr. Sushil -- > Do u need more !!!! Sushil Dikshit 3.1. Re: News Story - 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasio Sushil Dikshit 3.2. Re: Sushil Dixit litsol 4a. Re: Time to close the group Sushil Dikshit 4b. Re: Yes, Sushil ### litsol 4c. Mar/Venus in 12th vreality_au 4d. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th litsol 4e. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th vreality_au 4f. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th litsol 4g. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th litsol 5a. which Mantra's to recite while wearing Pearl ring Isnt That Wonder 5b. Re: which Mantra's to recite while wearing Pearl ring litsol 5c. Re: which Mantra's to recite while wearing Pearl ring Rakesh Patel 6a. Re: Spirituality (RK Da) / How is this arkaydash 7. AATHREYA - Auspicious Days Doctor.BalaKrishnaMurthy Ramaraju,BS,MBBS 8a. Re: Spirituality (Sheevani) --Part 2 sheevani147 9a. Re: results of Rahu and Ketu Dasa and Antardasa litsol View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. AATHREYA - Makara Sankraanthi Posted by: "Doctor.BalaKrishnaMurthy Ramaraju,BS,MBBS" dr.ramaraju.balakrishnamurthy vijaya_krishna3444 Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:25 am (PST) AATHREYA – Dr. BalaKrishna Murthy Ramaraju10 Elmwood Dr , Apalachin , NY 13732 - 4300 , U.S.ACell No: 508 – 265 – 1124dr.balakrishnamurth y.ramaraju@ gmail.comdr.ramaraju. balakrishnamurth yAATHREYA – Bhogi , Sankraanthi , KanumaLet us start on Dec. 21 / 22 , the day of Winter Solstice , whenthe night was the longest and day was the shortest.With effect from Dec. 23 rd the day time is slowly catching upwith night time . Sun is rising one minute early and is settingone minute late . A reminder that warm days are ahead andby March 21 / 22 , the day of Vernal / Spring Equinox , theday time would have caught up with night time and both day andnight are of equal length. That is in future , but let us come back.Witheffect from Dec . 21 / 22 , the Sun ( Soorya Bhagawaan )is leaving southern hemisphere and moving towards northernhemisphere , northern sojourn – UttharaayaNam , and He willgrace the people of northern hemisphere for six months untilJune 21 / 22 . UttharaayaNam is day time for Gods .On January 13 / 14 Sun has left Dhanur Raasi ( Sagittarius )and entered Makara Raasi ( Capricorn ) and is known asMakara SankramaNam – Makara Sankraanthi , Pongal , Vishu.According to Solar almanac ( Soorya Maanam ) Dhanur Maasam( month of Sagittarius ) is over and it is the start of Makara Maasam( month of Capricorn ) which will last until Feb. 14.Of all the 12 Sankraanthis in an year , Makara Sankraanthi is themost favored Sankraanthi as harvest has come home , food is aplenty.It is also the time to welcome Bali , who is coming from nether underworld ( down under ) to greet all the people. Houses are decorated withRangoli, front yards are bedecked with flowers , children basking infront of warm fires ( Bhogi Mantalu ) , enjoying themselves on swings ,Hari Daasus singing Bhajans . Happy Happy Four days of Sankraanthi.Makara Sankraanthi is a four day festival – first day Bhogi when thechildren , Bhaavi Prapancha Paurulu – Future World Citizens , areblessed with berries , flower petals and small coins. Second day is theday of Pongal , when the entire family enjoys sweet rice pudding –Pongal.Third and fourth days are Kanuma and Mukkanuma for children toadorn the living room with various Idols , Icons and Toys .Makara Sankraanthi , a four day festival of family gathering ,Thanks giving , for new sons-in-law to visit their inlaws' house to befeasted and feted and expected to depart with their brides after thefestivities are over having been presented with new clothes , gifts etc.Let there be peace every where – Sarve Janaaha Sukhino Bhavanthu .aathreya – dr. bala Krishna murthy ramaraju Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (2) 1b. Re: AATHREYA - Makara Sankraanthi Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:48 am (PST) Resp Dr. BalakrishnaMurthy ,Thanx a lot to post a message on Makara Sankraanthi, It was a great day particularly for me.May lord Sun bless every one with his light of knowledge and light of life.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Doctor.BalaKrishna Murthy Ramaraju,BS, MBBS,MS,FRCS, GERON" <dr.ramaraju. balakrishnamurth y wrote:>> AATHREYA – Dr. BalaKrishna Murthy Ramaraju> > > > 10 Elmwood Dr , Apalachin , NY 13732 - 4300 , U.S.A> > > > Cell No: 508 – 265 – 1124> > > > dr.balakrishnamurth y.ramaraju@ ...> > dr.ramaraju. balakrishnamurth y > > > AATHREYA – Bhogi , Sankraanthi , Kanuma> > > > Let us start on Dec. 21 / 22 , the day of Winter Solstice , when> > the night was the longest and day was the shortest.> > With effect from Dec. 23 rd the day time is slowly catching up> > with night time . Sun is rising one minute early and is setting> > one minute late . A reminder that warm days are ahead and> > by March 21 / 22 , the day of Vernal / Spring Equinox , the> > day time would have caught up with night time and both day and> > night are of equal length. That is in future , but let us come back.> > > > Witheffect from Dec . 21 / 22 , the Sun ( Soorya Bhagawaan )> > is leaving southern hemisphere and moving towards northern> > hemisphere , northern sojourn – UttharaayaNam , and He will> > grace the people of northern hemisphere for six months until> > June 21 / 22 . UttharaayaNam is day time for Gods .> > > > On January 13 / 14 Sun has left Dhanur Raasi ( Sagittarius )> > and entered Makara Raasi ( Capricorn ) and is known as> > Makara SankramaNam – Makara Sankraanthi , Pongal , Vishu.> > > > According to Solar almanac ( Soorya Maanam ) Dhanur Maasam> > ( month of Sagittarius ) is over and it is the start of Makara Maasam> > ( month of Capricorn ) which will last until Feb. 14.> > > > Of all the 12 Sankraanthis in an year , Makara Sankraanthi is the> > most favored Sankraanthi as harvest has come home , food is aplenty.> > It is also the time to welcome Bali , who is coming from nether under> > world ( down under ) to greet all the people. Houses are decorated with> > Rangoli, front yards are bedecked with flowers , children basking in> > front of warm fires ( Bhogi Mantalu ) , enjoying themselves on swings ,> > Hari Daasus singing Bhajans . Happy Happy Four days of Sankraanthi.> > > > Makara Sankraanthi is a four day festival – first day Bhogi when the> > children , Bhaavi Prapancha Paurulu – Future World Citizens , are> > blessed with berries , flower petals and small coins. Second day is the> > day of Pongal , when the entire family enjoys sweet rice pudding –Pongal.> > Third and fourth days are Kanuma and Mukkanuma for children to> > adorn the living room with various Idols , Icons and Toys .> > Makara Sankraanthi , a four day festival of family gathering ,> > Thanks giving , for new sons-in-law to visit their inlaws' house to be> > feasted and feted and expected to depart with their brides after the> > festivities are over having been presented with new clothes , gifts etc.> > > > Let there be peace every where – Sarve Janaaha Sukhino Bhavanthu .> > > > > > aathreya – dr. bala Krishna murthy ramaraju> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (2) 2.1. Re: Mr. Sushil -- > Do u need more !!!! Posted by: "Sushil Dikshit" sushil.dikshit sushil.dikshit Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:20 am (PST) Dear Lalit,You have gone totally mad. I am not known to any Mafia. You do not know anything about me. You can confirm my personal and social character through Baqaya Saheb. He may confirm it from thier batchmates.Your charges about mafia is totally one of the illusions of your mind. A mad man is not expected to behave in a better way than you.Now your want to know about me. I been been a regular contributer of scholarly articles to a national newspaper for three years. I may send scanned copies of my articles or anyone from this forum may confirm it from Shri Shailendra Dixit Chief Editor of "Dainik Jagran"(Bihar Jharkhan and Assam editions) Further I have attended many astrological seminars in last 14 years. You may confirm it from Pt. K.A.Dubey "Padmesh" ji, a noted asrologer. I am not new to astrology like you who does not even basics of astrology and consult here and there for knowing about houses.Now remember I will reply your each mail in the same manner your reply. I am ready to fight in the same way as you are doing with others because you are behaving like a mad elephant. I will not tolerate now any more. I have not hidden interest like other astrologers so you cannot do any damage to my astrology life. Astrology is not a source of bread and butter for me. Further ............ ...(I have removed the sentences from here because you will certainly not be able to tolerate the reality that is the cause of real problem of your madness. and many more things)YOU ARE DOING THE GREATEST DAMAGE TO ASTROLOGY BY POSING YOURSELF AS ASTROLOGER AND FRAUD SADHAK. YOU ARE NOT ONLY VERY CUNNING BUT A CHEAT TOO.IS THE WAY YOUR FAMILY HAS TOUGHT YOU TO BEHAVE TO THE ELDERS IN YOUR SOCIETY.IT WILL BE BETTER IF YOU BAN ME OTHERWISE I AM READY TO REPLY YOUR EACH MAIL IN THE SAME WAY AND YOU HAVE EVERYTHING TO LOOSE HERE. I HAVE NOTHING TO LOOSE.sushil dikshit-- In Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> See Mr. Sushil,> > If the person has command to control his evil side both in personal > and public life, he is balanced, ur's is a dual face, u r a guru in > net and in public and in ur real life u r a facilitator to mafias, > criminals, u have a clever political mind, did u stop ur this ugly > mind to do politics here.> > it's you who interjected with a motive to insult me, insult or honor > i dont care, but i think, it's good to put an end to such type of ur > practice, u did same earlier also.> > Do u have a shame, it cant , coz if u had, u didnt accept that kind > of mixed role guru + mafia (criminal) facilitator. And r playing with > the lives of thousands by ur partnership in a gutkha business run by > those mafias, have u ever thought why u r in such an ugly business, > do u know what is purity of earning.> > What was the weakness in ur personality built up that u have a dual > personality like this, May be, u think u people are the cleverest > one, and the one who is not corrupt like u, needs a conselling, No > Man, Spirituality is stronger and Smarter than ur cleverness.> > > ~Lalit> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil Dikshit" > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Lalit,> > > > Namaste,> > > > I may be wrong in assessing you but it has no harm to consult a > > psychiatrist rightnow. If he says you are ok, it is too good but in > > case you need his help to remove the personality disorder, you > should > > try to remove it. You offen indulge with people known to you. You > try > > to reveal the facts publicly what the person has told you > personally. > > It is really deplorable. > > > > You may be smarter than me in your opinion. But I never told you > that > > I am smarter than you.> > > > You may ask Baqaya sir, I never tried to contact him persoanlly or > > develop relations. Secondly Income Tax Department is a very large > > department. There are eleven Commissioners of Income Tax only at > > Kanpur. I have been posted with many Chief CIT and all of them > liked > > me due to my work not for bootposlishing. You may ask Baqaya sir to > > confirm it from their batchmates. I have worked with two Chief > > commmissioners of the same batch(Panta Saheb and B.K. Sri Saheb. > > > > Further I am in the department where all people come for assessment > > whether they are mafia or religious people. So we come in contact > > with all types of people from society. I can not deny to talk to a > > assessee whether he is mafia or religious person.> > > > If I have a family business, what is the problem in it? > > > > Finally Either you behave soemtimes like a mad person or you are a > > very cunning and opportunist person because you are not ready to > > accept my sincerity shown towards you. I can claim it that you are > > zero at Sadhana otherwise a sadhak must have come to know about the > > real feeling in my heart. You are a big O at Sadhana. You are big > > fraud if you are not accepting my affection towards you.> > > > I will never like to discuss anything with you if you continue to > use > > such a bad language for anyone.> > > > You may ban me because you have right to do so.> > > > regards> > sushil dikshit > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "sanat2221" > > <sanatkumar_ jain@> wrote:> > >> > > (L)alit (I)s (T)otally (S)uppressor (O)f (L)ogic> > > hence he is LITSOL> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Rup Baqaya > > > <baqayarup@> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Rup Baqaya (baqayarup@) has sent you a news article. > > > > (Email address has not been verified.)> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > Personal message:> > > > > > > > And someone was telling the group that he was right when he > said > > > that nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't > know > > > whether the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of > > > intellect is this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.> > > > > > > > 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO - News> > > > > > > > http://news. / s/nm/20080110/ wl_nm/iraq_ deaths_survey_ dc> > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ===> > > > News > > > > http://news. /> > > >> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (36) 3.1. Re: News Story - 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasio Posted by: "Sushil Dikshit" sushil.dikshit sushil.dikshit Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:21 am (PST) LITSOLA MAD MAN DOES NOT CARE FOR EVEN A CRORE OF PEOPLE SO 100 IS TOO LESS FOR YOU.TRY TO GET TREATED YOURSELF AT SOME PSYCHIATRIST CENTER.SUSHIL DIKSHITVedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> Dear Sanat,> > I successfully suppressed ur dirty mission to defame vedic astrology.> I m happy for it, if 100 more people like u get togather, I wont care > to kick u with the power needed to kick out 100 such people.> > ~Lalit.> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "sanat2221" > <sanatkumar_ jain@> wrote:> >> > (L)alit (I)s (T)otally (S)uppressor (O)f (L)ogic> > hence he is LITSOL> > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Rup Baqaya > > <baqayarup@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Rup Baqaya (baqayarup@) has sent you a news article. > > > (Email address has not been verified.)> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Personal message:> > > > > > And someone was telling the group that he was right when he said > > that nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't know > > whether the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of > > intellect is this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.> > > > > > 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO - News> > > > > > http://news. / s/nm/20080110/ wl_nm/iraq_ deaths_survey_ dc> > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ===> > > News > > > http://news. /> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (36) 3.2. Re: Sushil Dixit Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:17 am (PST) Right,Sushil Dixit, I dont care a mafia linked man ... one or one crore ..u urself told about ur partnership with mafias in their gutkha company, U have 12% partnership in their business .... u will teach religion to world, u will teach mantra vidya to world .. ? Safedposh, I understand ur irritation.Now, I must delete u, OK, I wont delete, so that, ur right to give explnation is not curbed, however, I was well aware of ur motives in rejoining the group.~Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil Dikshit" <sushil.dikshit@ ...> wrote:>> > LITSOL> > A MAD MAN DOES NOT CARE FOR EVEN A CRORE OF PEOPLE SO 100 IS TOO LESS > FOR YOU.> > TRY TO GET TREATED YOURSELF AT SOME PSYCHIATRIST CENTER.> > SUSHIL DIKSHIT> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > <litsol@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sanat,> > > > I successfully suppressed ur dirty mission to defame vedic > astrology.> > I m happy for it, if 100 more people like u get togather, I wont > care > > to kick u with the power needed to kick out 100 such people.> > > > ~Lalit.> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "sanat2221" > > <sanatkumar_ jain@> wrote:> > >> > > (L)alit (I)s (T)otally (S)uppressor (O)f (L)ogic> > > hence he is LITSOL> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Rup Baqaya > > > <baqayarup@> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Rup Baqaya (baqayarup@) has sent you a news article. > > > > (Email address has not been verified.)> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > Personal message:> > > > > > > > And someone was telling the group that he was right when he > said > > > that nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't > know > > > whether the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of > > > intellect is this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.> > > > > > > > 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO - News> > > > > > > > http://news. / s/nm/20080110/ wl_nm/iraq_ deaths_survey_ dc> > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ===> > > > News > > > > http://news. /> > > >> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (36) 4a. Re: Time to close the group Posted by: "Sushil Dikshit" sushil.dikshit sushil.dikshit Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:31 am (PST) Dear Litsol,Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this group found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your writings look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology in them. I can prove it from your posts.Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are the pens you use for for your writings.You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember you as Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology.Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role of policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have only three options1. Either correct yourself2. or ban me3. or close the group permanently and leave astrologysushil dikshitVedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> Dear Mr. Kamal,> > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand and > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's esoteric one.> > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was necessary > to give answer to some typical people.> > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not even > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves the > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.> > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do better than > others. Dont worry !> > > regards,> Lalit.> > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Vedic Learner" > <sightsolutions@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Moderator> > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is being > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss.> > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > kamal> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 4b. Re: Yes, Sushil ### Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:39 am (PST) Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply to people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's why i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post other's work in my name.If Google then Google.You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when rahu is there in 7'th in one's chart ...:)What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !!Beware !!~Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil Dikshit" <sushil.dikshit@ ....> wrote:>> > Dear Litsol,> > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this group > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your writings > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology in > them. I can prove it from your posts.> > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are the > pens you use for for your writings.> > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember you as > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology.> > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role of > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have only > three options> > 1. Either correct yourself> 2. or ban me> 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology> > sushil dikshit> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > <litsol@> wrote:> >> > Dear Mr. Kamal,> > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand and > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's esoteric > one.> > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > necessary > > to give answer to some typical people.> > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not even > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves the > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.> > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do better > than > > others. Dont worry !> > > > > > regards,> > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Vedic Learner" > > <sightsolutions@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Moderator> > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is being > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss.> > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > kamal> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 4c. Mar/Venus in 12th Posted by: "vreality_au" reality_v vreality_au Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:16 pm (PST) Lalit, Gurujis//You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are present in one's chart in 12'th house//Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a brilliantmusician. 22/2/839.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra, IndiaDoes Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts of2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp byJu. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars.Your response would be much appreciated.thanksSu Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsolwrote:>> Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply to > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's why > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post other's > work in my name.> > If Google then Google.> > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when rahu is > there in 7'th in one's chart ...> > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !!> > Beware !!> > ~Lalit.> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil Dikshit" > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:> >> > > > Dear Litsol,> > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this > group > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your > writings > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology in > > them. I can prove it from your posts.> > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are the > > pens you use for for your writings.> > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember you > as > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology.> > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role of > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have only > > three options> > > > 1. Either correct yourself> > 2. or ban me> > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology> > > > sushil dikshit> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > > <litsol@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mr. Kamal,> > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand and > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's esoteric > > one.> > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > > necessary > > > to give answer to some typical people.> > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not even > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves the > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.> > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do better > > than > > > others. Dont worry !> > > > > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Vedic Learner" > > > <sightsolutions@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Moderator> > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is > being > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss.> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > > > kamal> > > >> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 4d. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:22 pm (PST) Dear Su,As per my knowledge, mercury + venus in 12'th can make a person good in art, I know one or two people who are good poet, author etc.. with this combination.With Mars + Venus in 12'th one's character is not good, he w'd have a pleasant personality like artists do have, just to use girls if he is male, and if female, she will use males.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "vreality_au" <reality_v@. ..> wrote:>> Lalit, Gurujis> > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > present in one's chart in 12'th house//> > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a brilliant> musician. > > 22/2/83> 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra, India> > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts of> 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp by> Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars.> > Your response would be much appreciated.> thanks> > Su > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol@>> wrote:> >> > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply to > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's why > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post other's > > work in my name.> > > > If Google then Google.> > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when rahu is > > there in 7'th in one's chart ...> > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !!> > > > Beware !!> > > > ~Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil Dikshit" > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Litsol,> > > > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this > > group > > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your > > writings > > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology in > > > them. I can prove it from your posts.> > > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are the > > > pens you use for for your writings.> > > > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember you > > as > > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology.> > > > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role of > > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have only > > > three options> > > > > > 1. Either correct yourself> > > 2. or ban me> > > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology> > > > > > sushil dikshit> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > > > <litsol@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mr. Kamal,> > > > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand and > > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's esoteric > > > one.> > > > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > > > necessary > > > > to give answer to some typical people.> > > > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not even > > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves the > > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.> > > > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do better > > > than > > > > others. Dont worry !> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Vedic Learner" > > > > <sightsolutions@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Moderator> > > > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is > > being > > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss.> > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > > > > > kamal> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 4e. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th Posted by: "vreality_au" reality_v vreality_au Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:41 pm (PST) Dear Lalitthanks for the response. But wouldnt the aspect of Ju mitigate thattrait? And in this particular case the asp of exalted Sa on lag fr 7th?rgdsSuVedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsolwrote:>> Dear Su,> > As per my knowledge, mercury + venus in 12'th can make a person good > in art, I know one or two people who are good poet, author etc.. > with this combination.> > With Mars + Venus in 12'th one's character is not good, he w'd have a > pleasant personality like artists do have, just to use girls if he is > male, and if female, she will use males.> > > regards,> Lalit.> > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "vreality_au" > <reality_v@> wrote:> >> > Lalit, Gurujis> > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > present in one's chart in 12'th house//> > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > brilliant> > musician. > > > > 22/2/83> > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra, India> > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts > of> > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp by> > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars.> > > > Your response would be much appreciated.> > thanks> > > > Su > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply > to > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's > why > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > other's > > > work in my name.> > > > > > If Google then Google.> > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > rahu is > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ...> > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !!> > > > > > Beware !!> > > > > > ~Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil Dikshit" > > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Litsol,> > > > > > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this > > > group > > > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your > > > writings > > > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology > in > > > > them. I can prove it from your posts.> > > > > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are > the > > > > pens you use for for your writings.> > > > > > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > > > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember > you > > > as > > > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology.> > > > > > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role > of > > > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have > only > > > > three options> > > > > > > > 1. Either correct yourself> > > > 2. or ban me> > > > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology> > > > > > > > sushil dikshit> > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > > > > <litsol@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mr. Kamal,> > > > > > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand > and > > > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's > esoteric > > > > one.> > > > > > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > > > > necessary > > > > > to give answer to some typical people.> > > > > > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not > even > > > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves > the > > > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.> > > > > > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do > better > > > > than > > > > > others. Dont worry !> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Vedic > Learner" > > > > > <sightsolutions@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Moderator> > > > > > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is > > > being > > > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss.> > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > > > > > > > kamal> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 4f. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:22 pm (PST) Dear SU,Mars + Venus will still give him such instincts, under the belt, but Jupitor will give him wisdom to keep his instincts in the check, but such an instinct will always be there, jupitor gives ability to keep such things in check, will not break the code of the conduct openly.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "vreality_au" <reality_v@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Lalit> thanks for the response. But wouldnt the aspect of Ju mitigate that> trait? And in this particular case the asp of exalted Sa on lag fr 7th?> > rgds> Su> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol@>> wrote:> >> > Dear Su,> > > > As per my knowledge, mercury + venus in 12'th can make a person good > > in art, I know one or two people who are good poet, author etc.. > > with this combination.> > > > With Mars + Venus in 12'th one's character is not good, he w'd have a > > pleasant personality like artists do have, just to use girls if he is > > male, and if female, she will use males.> > > > > > regards,> > Lalit.> > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "vreality_au" > > <reality_v@> wrote:> > >> > > Lalit, Gurujis> > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house//> > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > brilliant> > > musician. > > > > > > 22/2/83> > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra, India> > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts > > of> > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp by> > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars.> > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated.> > > thanks> > > > > > Su > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply > > to > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's > > why > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > other's > > > > work in my name.> > > > > > > > If Google then Google.> > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > > rahu is > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !!> > > > > > > > Beware !!> > > > > > > > ~Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil Dikshit" > > > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Litsol,> > > > > > > > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this > > > > group > > > > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your > > > > writings > > > > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology > > in > > > > > them. I can prove it from your posts.> > > > > > > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are > > the > > > > > pens you use for for your writings.> > > > > > > > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > > > > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember > > you > > > > as > > > > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology.> > > > > > > > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role > > of > > > > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have > > only > > > > > three options> > > > > > > > > > 1. Either correct yourself> > > > > 2. or ban me> > > > > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology> > > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit> > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > > > > > <litsol@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Mr. Kamal,> > > > > > > > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand > > and > > > > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's > > esoteric > > > > > one.> > > > > > > > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > > > > > necessary > > > > > > to give answer to some typical people.> > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not > > even > > > > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves > > the > > > > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.> > > > > > > > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do > > better > > > > > than > > > > > > others. Dont worry !> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Vedic > > Learner" > > > > > > <sightsolutions@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Moderator> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is > > > > being > > > > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > > > > > > > > > kamal> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 4g. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:53 pm (PST) Dear SU,Just to add one more thing, mercury alone in 12'th confers very good authoring skills to a native. They articulate themselves very nicely, Mercury's gift to them, If Venus too in 12'th, music, dance and drama may also be there, No wonder .. but enough care should be taken in predicting same in case of mars + venus. regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> Dear SU,> > Mars + Venus will still give him such instincts, under the belt, but > Jupitor will give him wisdom to keep his instincts in the check, but > such an instinct will always be there, jupitor gives ability to keep > such things in check, will not break the code of the conduct openly.> > > regards,> Lalit.> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "vreality_au" > <reality_v@> wrote:> >> > Dear Lalit> > thanks for the response. But wouldnt the aspect of Ju mitigate that> > trait? And in this particular case the asp of exalted Sa on lag fr > 7th?> > > > rgds> > Su> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Su,> > > > > > As per my knowledge, mercury + venus in 12'th can make a person > good > > > in art, I know one or two people who are good poet, author etc.. > > > with this combination.> > > > > > With Mars + Venus in 12'th one's character is not good, he w'd > have a > > > pleasant personality like artists do have, just to use girls if > he is > > > male, and if female, she will use males.> > > > > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "vreality_au" > > > <reality_v@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Lalit, Gurujis> > > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > are > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house//> > > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > > brilliant> > > > musician. > > > > > > > > 22/2/83> > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra, India> > > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the > charts > > > of> > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 > asp by> > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars.> > > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated.> > > > thanks> > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > <litsol@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or > reply > > > to > > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name > that's > > > why > > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > > other's > > > > > work in my name.> > > > > > > > > > If Google then Google.> > > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > are > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > > > rahu is > > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !!> > > > > > > > > > Beware !!> > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil > Dikshit" > > > > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Litsol,> > > > > > > > > > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of > this > > > > > group > > > > > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly > your > > > > > writings > > > > > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to > astrology > > > in > > > > > > them. I can prove it from your posts.> > > > > > > > > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V > are > > > the > > > > > > pens you use for for your writings.> > > > > > > > > > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave > the > > > > > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will > remember > > > you > > > > > as > > > > > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology.> > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a > role > > > of > > > > > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you > have > > > only > > > > > > three options> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Either correct yourself> > > > > > 2. or ban me> > > > > > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit> > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > > > > > > <litsol@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Mr. Kamal,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to > understand > > > and > > > > > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's > > > esoteric > > > > > > one.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It > was > > > > > > necessary > > > > > > > to give answer to some typical people.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is > not > > > even > > > > > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, > deserves > > > the > > > > > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do > > > better > > > > > > than > > > > > > > others. Dont worry !> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Vedic > > > Learner" > > > > > > > <sightsolutions@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Moderator> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty > linen is > > > > > being > > > > > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kamal> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 5a. which Mantra's to recite while wearing Pearl ring Posted by: "Isnt That Wonder" adrockz adrockz Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:20 am (PST) Dear group member!I have one pearl ring sent by family member from India, which i have to wear as i am a manglik. As per my little knowledge, we have to recite Mantra's while wearing Pearl ring and also to do some sort or Puja........ .. Can anyone guide me as i was waiting for this period to wear Pearl ring after Makarsankranti.Thanks in Advance.Rakesh Patel Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 5b. Re: which Mantra's to recite while wearing Pearl ring Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:19 am (PST) Dear Rakesh,Pls. post ur horoscope to group, we will have a look into this.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Isnt That Wonder" <adrockz > wrote:>> Dear group member!> > I have one pearl ring sent by family member from India, which i have > to wear as i am a manglik. As per my little knowledge, we have to > recite Mantra's while wearing Pearl ring and also to do some sort or > Puja........ .. Can anyone guide me as i was waiting for this period to > wear Pearl ring after Makarsankranti.> > Thanks in Advance.> > Rakesh Patel> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 5c. Re: which Mantra's to recite while wearing Pearl ring Posted by: "Rakesh Patel" adrockz adrockz Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:16 pm (PST) Namaskar Lalit Ji and other group member,I am seding you Birth details as well as word document for horoscope.Name: Rakeshkumar Somabhai PatelDate of Birth: September 17, 1977Time Of Birth: 03.23 AMPlace Of Birth: Palej, Bharuch, Gujarat, IndiaThanks and RegardsRakesh Patellitsol <litsol > wrote:Dear Rakesh,Pls. post ur horoscope to group, we will have a look into this.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Isnt That Wonder" <adrockz > wrote:>> Dear group member!> > I have one pearl ring sent by family member from India, which i have > to wear as i am a manglik. As per my little knowledge, we have to > recite Mantra's while wearing Pearl ring and also to do some sort or > Puja........ .. Can anyone guide me as i was waiting for this period to > wear Pearl ring after Makarsankranti.> > Thanks in Advance.> > Rakesh Patel>_.------------ --------- --------- ---Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 6a. Re: Spirituality (RK Da) / How is this Posted by: "arkaydash" arkaydash arkaydash Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:20 pm (PST) Manoj, Aavesh, Lalit and others,I will start my smal trot with Manoj's beside and go a little beyondhouse this or house that.Off-the-cuff I can say what little 'non-detail' you share here is sorelyinadequate for a good enough answer. Mars in eighth and Sat in 12th maynot confer an overtone of moksha per se on a chart. The other sensitivepoints in a horoscope that are marked for the exercise of puruasharthamust have their strong say too. Because moskha is born of the viscera ofdesires and distress, attainment and then forbearance, shining forth andthen retiring into the Source.Thus, this kind of reading is done from the perpective of the 'MokshaTriad' vis-a-vis the other triads, namely artha, kaama and YES dharma.Aaarth and kaama remain vitiated if not infromed by dharma (understandit as just virtue; a whole Western treatise is devoted to the concept'virtue') during their pursuit. And they keep chasing us till our horsesare limp; because, if nothing else, 'the guide never happened to us'.And moksha operates when Artha and Kaama are taken care of in a birth.Or else, the 'money, wine-woman' hangover will cast its long shadow.Even that hangover can invade one's engagement with what is but a toolof strengthening the vision of life. That is what Lalit perhaps meanswhen he in today's posting talks of spirituality in the context ofastrology. What use indeed is the 'Eye of the Vedas' if it is used likea cash crop on the soil of (supper)mind, irrigated by intuition.'Astrology for a living' can never meet the requirements that man hasfor Evolvement. But those who live off astrology are doing fine bythemselves. Nothing out of place.Astrology, which has become the 21st-century engine of all prachyavidyas, has a higher call too. It's not about selling gem stones asruse, nor dazzling the world with the feat of self-fulfillingsoothsaying -- whether Saddam hangs or Baghdad falls or Bhutto leavesscene or Obama arrives.I think, nobody need doubt Lalit's integrity, his intentions, and -- Godforbid -- his sanity. Sky is very high. Let's be thankful we can affordto spit on mother earth. I am proud to quote Lalit from his today'spost about the folding up the group:Only, a person, who is not even greedy for the knowledge, who stands forthe truth, deserves thedivine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do better thanothers. Dont worry !Kamal, don't worry. I know Aavesh won't. And Lalit can't.Wishing for good sense in all members,RKVedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, MANOJ KAR<manoj_kar7@ ...> wrote:>> Respected Gurujans,Namaskar.>> In my natal chart in the 8th house of sagitarius,Mars is placed,whatshould be the effect ? For ur information the saturn is placed in the12th house of aries in deblited & saturn is the lord of 9th & 10th housealso.>> Pl light some thing.>> regards> manoj kar>>> aavesh t aavesh_s wrote:> Namaskar RKDa,>> My intention was not to frighten Lalit but to make him aware that the8th house can relate to spirituality in it's purest form>> As regards study of the esoteric side of Jyotish,you are right : It isa lonely path !!>> Robert Frost said 'There were two roads in front of me and I took theone less travelled ....>> In the ultimate analysis: Jyotish has to help in unfoldment of thetrue potential of each individual on this earth.>> This is only possible if we focus on the esoteric side of this Vidya>> Regards,>> aavesh>>>>> rk dash arkaydash@.. . wrote:> Dear Aavesh,>> Don't pls frighten Lalit by saying that about Behari's book. He maynot be having a such-and-such 8th house to feel so at home with theauthor, but that should be alright.>> I for one find Behari a little overblown, just a little. The fact ofthe matter is, yes, astrology as we know and are 'supposed' to know isexoteric. The esoteric coordiantes you will have to explore more or lesson your own.>> Happy questing,> RK>>> On 09/01/2008, aavesh t aavesh_s wrote: Dear Lalit,>> You are right : 8th is the house of aspects that are Hidden.>> The 8th house is the most misunderstood house in the chart.> There is a lot of fear associated with the 8th house because it is thehouse of death (mode of death),humiliation, long term diseases etc>> This house corresponds to Vrischik Rasi in the Kalapurusha. Thesexuality part that you mention refers to the lower energies of thishouse.>> However,this house can give a highly evolved soul (Refer to the chartof Paramahamsa Yogananda to get an idea of what I am referring to)>> Another clue:Apprach this house from the point of view of esotericastrology (Chakras) rather than exoteric astrology (which most authorstend to do in their books)>> You can refer to the works of Bepin Behari for this (His book 'A studyin Astrological Occutism' is a gem in this regard).>> Be prepared to burn the midnight oil as Bepin Behari's books can bereally taxing on the best of days>> Regards,>> aavesh>>>>> litsol litsol wrote:> Aavesh Sir and Shivani Ji,>> Can i put my thoughts, 8'th shows digging, sadhana, when u go deep, u> start put ur steps towards occultism, u become attractive to opposit> sex.... but it's not the light of spirituality.>> 9'th is the channel to 10'th, we should see the light of spirituality> in 10'th house provided what is said earlier is true, is activated.>> World gets confused in understanding who is spiritual and who is not,> and Osho like people emerge, who himself is confused doesnt know what> he speaks for, they will only confuse their audience.>> This is what i understood.>> regards,> Lalit.>>>>>> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com , "sheevani147"> wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaye.> >> > Namaste Aavesh ji,> >> > Thank you so much for the information about spiritual inclinations> > with reference to the said 'interesting' chart..> >> > ''(i)Lagna is Dhanur Rasi with Lagnesh Guru in 8th (Uccha> Rasi).Guru> > is aspected by Shani Maharaj (Vakri) and is in Yuti with Mangal> > (Neecha).. with parivartan with 5th house..'''> >> > The 8H does play a pivotal role.. linking the lagna,5H,and 11H and> > jupiter aspecting 12H.> >> > Navamsha lagna differs.. I wonder if u used the time difference as> > standard +8GMT.. For births b4 1963, time difference is +7:30..> > However it doesnt change much, as then karakamsa will then be in> the> > 9H, giving similar results..> >> > As for 5H indications. .. I think silence speaks volumes...> >> >> > Thank you so very much> >> > Sheevani> >> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com , aavesh t> > wrote:> > >> > > Continuing from my previous mail :> > >> > > The chart that you have furnished is very interesting (to put> it> > mildly)> > >> > > My observations:> > >> > > (i)Lagna is Dhanur Rasi with Lagnesh Guru in 8th (Uccha> > Rasi).Guru is> > > aspected by Shani Maharaj (Vakri) and is in Yuti with Mangal> > (Neecha)> > >> > > (ii)Rasi is Mesha aspected by Shani Maharaj and Rahu.This is> not> > a good factor from the emotional point of view (leads to> > disappointments in matters of the heart)> > >> > > (iii)The 7th house is occupied by 4 planets giving rise to> > Pravrajya Yoga.This is a significant Yoga for this chart.Due to the> > weakness of the 10th lord actual 'Sanyas' will not take place> > (however there will be ocassions when the native will want to 'get> > away' from the chaos of city life)> > >> > > (iv)The yuti of 5th and 8th Lord with Lanesh is good for> > spirituality. Due to the weakness of 5th lord and aspect of Shani> > Maharaj the path will not be smooth> > >> > > (v)Rahu is the Atmakaraka placed in the 1st house in Neecha> Rasi.> > >> > > Currently Rahu-Mars is in operation which will bring a> heightened> > interest in the occult.In D-9 Karakamasha is occupied by Surya> which> > agains point to a great thirst for spirituality> > >> > > In sum this chart is very good for spirituality. The coming> Dasha> > of Guru will be very critical in this regard (particularly Guru-> Guru> > and> > > Guru-Ketu periods)> > >> > > Would appreciate your feedback on the above> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > aavesh> > >> > >> > >> > > aavesh t wrote:> > > Tue, 8 Jan 2008 09:12:29 +0000 (GMT)> > > aavesh t> > > Spirituality (Sheevani)> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > >> > > Namaskar Sheevani & Lalit ,> > >> > > Sheevani: I am answering your query on spirituality on the> basis> > of the chart furnished by you (I am assuming that this chart> belongs> > to you)> > >> > > The main houses for spirituality are :> > >> > > (i) 5th House (Purva Punya),> > >> > > (ii)9th House (Bhagya Sthana).> > >> > > (iii) 8th(spiritual inclination) and 12th (meditation) houses> > also should be considered> > >> > > (iv)The Moksha Trikona (houses 4th,8th and 12th houses are very> > significant in this respect)> > >> > > The points to be considered are :> > >> > > (a)Grahas occupying these houses> > >> > > (b)Aspecting these houses> > >> > > ©Positions of Lords of these houses> > >> > > The main Grahas for spirituality are Guru,Shani Maharaj and> Ketu> > (These have to be studied in depth)> > >> > > The position of the Chara Atmakaraka in Navamsha (Karakamsha)> > provides vital clues to the level of spirituality of the soul> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > aavesh> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > sheevani147 wrote:> > > OM NAMAH SHIVAYE> > >> > > Namaste Aaveshji,> > >> > > Thank you for your compliments but I am not sure I deserve them..> > > Knowledge is difficult to quantify and Learning is a life-long> > > activity.. I am only a learner in astrology..> > >> > > I feel I know only the very basics of Jaimini Jyotish,, enough to> > > just get by., not very confident.. but I do understand the .> > various> > > carakarkas.> > >> > > Details of female native,> > > D.o.b 14th july 1955> > > Time 18:02 hrs> > > Place, Penang, Malaysia> > > Timezone 7:30 east of GMT applicable> > > ( post 1963 the time zone became 8hrs east of GMT)> > >> > > Events..> > > First travelled to UK.. 10th August 1975,> > > Marriage ..23rd December 1980> > > Birth of child.. (female)..24th May 1986.> > >> > > Sorry to trouble you but I do appreciate and value your advice> and> > > teaching..> > >> > > with respects> > > Sheevani> > >> > >> > >> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, aavesh t> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaskar Sheevani,> > > >> > > > It is nice to see your interest in spirituality.> > > >> > > > You seem to be quite knowledgeable in Jyotish yourself (as is> > > evident from your mails)> > > >> > > > I will certainly answer your questions (quite a few as you have> > > pointed out)> > > >> > > > Before that pls let me have the following information:> > > >> > > > (i)A brief background of your Jyotish study (specifically> Jaimini> > > Jyotish).This info is required since my explanation will involve> > > discussion of Atmakaraka and Karakamsha extensively> > > >> > > > (ii)As always I will require the complete birth details,sex of> > > the native and dates of two incidents for me to comment on the> > chart> > > which you> > > > have mentioned> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > aavesh> > > >> > > >> > > > sheevani147 wrote:> > > > OM NAMAH SHIVAYE> > > >> > > > Namaste Aaveshji,,> > > >> > > > I am sure you might have covered this area before, but may I> ask> > if> > > > you could be so kind as to discuss basic requirements for> > > indicating> > > > spiritual development. . I understand the 5H,9H 10H link is> > > necessary> > > > together with 8th 11th 12th and 2nd house should also be> > considered.> > > >> > > > Planets like sun, jupiter , shani, ketu and moon need to be> > looked> > > > at..> > > >> > > > What yogas and aruda positions would u consider,,eg. .tapaswi> yoga> > > and> > > > 3rd and 6th from AL having benefics etc.. Navamsha and Visamsha> > > > considerations? ?> > > >> > > > Then the mahadasha and antradasha periods to time the events..> > > >> > > > With Dhanus lagna with rahu, Moon in 5H, sun,me,ke,ve 7H, Ju,ma> > 8H> > > > and Shaniji is vakra in 11th.. there is 5H/8H parivartana. .> > Kindly> > > > assess the spiritual indications. .> > > >> > > > Thank you so very much and please pardon me asking so many> > > questions..> > > >> > > > Respectfully> > > > Sheevani> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com , aavesh t> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Lalit,> > > > >> > > > > I had a look at your chart today morning.The reason for your> > > > present restlessness is very clear in your chart.> > > > >> > > > > (i)You are currently running the last phase of Saade-> Saati.The> > > > Yuti of Shani Maharaj and Ketu in the 2nd from Natal Moon is> the> > > > reason for your present turmoil> > > > >> > > > > (ii)You have a chart that is tailormade for spirituality> > (Lagnesh> > > > in 8th in Yuti with 9th lord,Ketu in Uccha Rasi in the 10th,5th> > > lord> > > > in 5th and aspect of Guru on the 12th from it's position in the> > 8th> > > > house)> > > > >> > > > > Shani Maharaj is your Atmakaraka placed in the 7th house.This> > > > position of the Atmakaraka points to the fact that your> spiritual> > > > journey is not going to be a cakewalk. You will have to bear a> > lot> > > of> > > > pain in your personal life owing to this position.This will> serve> > > to> > > > mould your spirituality in the long term> > > > >> > > > > The coming Dasha of Ketu (The Ketu-Ketu period from 26th June> > > > 2008 to 19th November 2008 will be very significant from the> > point> > > of> > > > view of your spiritual growth)> > > > >> > > > > Please perform the Graha Shantis for Shani Maharaj,Mangal,> Guru> > > > and Ketu which will help to reduce the level of intensity with> > > which> > > > you are living life presently (at breakneck speed to put it> > mildly)> > > > >> > > > > Your nature can be summed up as `Rebel with a cause and> without> > a> > > > pause'> > > > >> > > > > Keep up your Saadhana and you will certainly reach the goal> (as> > > > you are aware)> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > aavesh> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Dear Mr.Amit Sinhaji,Namaskar. In my chart in 12th house saturn is placed in debilited in aries sign,who is also the lord of 9th & 10th.The lord of 12th is placed in 8th house in sagitirus sign.Lagna is taurus. Can u pl analysis the effect of saturn here ? regards manoj kar Shindi <sinhazz wrote: Hi All, The twelfth house ---- Any planet in the twelfth house will give the person qualities with respect to that planet or combination of planets. Now the thing is how to deduce the effect... So for that judge according to the rules given below: 1. If the planet is in enemy house he will be a critic of the trait represented by the combination of planets. 2. If the planet is in friend sign he will be good in those traits. 3. If the planet is debilitated, he will be a destructor of that trait(e.g., art or science with respect to that planet). 4. If the planet is exalted he will be enriched in that art and can even attain fame with respect to that trait. Likewise planetary and thereafter sign aspect (nakshatra lord being important in this) will manipulate this positively and negatively accordingly. To know when these traits will be in prominence in that person find the days of that nakshatra in which the corresponding planet is and the time can be found by the combinatorial effect of nakshatra lord and lagna. Thanks and regards, Amit Sinha "Vedic Astrologyandhealing " <Vedic Astrologyandhealing >Vedic Astrologyandhealing Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:21:42 PM[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Digest Number 196 vaidikastrologyandhealing Messages In This Digest (19 Messages) 1a. AATHREYA - Makara Sankraanthi Doctor.BalaKrishnaMurthy Ramaraju,BS,MBBS 1b. Re: AATHREYA - Makara Sankraanthi litsol 2.1. Re: Mr. Sushil -- > Do u need more !!!! Sushil Dikshit 3.1. Re: News Story - 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasio Sushil Dikshit 3.2. Re: Sushil Dixit litsol 4a. Re: Time to close the group Sushil Dikshit 4b. Re: Yes, Sushil ### litsol 4c. Mar/Venus in 12th vreality_au 4d. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th litsol 4e. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th vreality_au 4f. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th litsol 4g. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th litsol 5a. which Mantra's to recite while wearing Pearl ring Isnt That Wonder 5b. Re: which Mantra's to recite while wearing Pearl ring litsol 5c. Re: which Mantra's to recite while wearing Pearl ring Rakesh Patel 6a. Re: Spirituality (RK Da) / How is this arkaydash 7. AATHREYA - Auspicious Days Doctor.BalaKrishnaMurthy Ramaraju,BS,MBBS 8a. Re: Spirituality (Sheevani) --Part 2 sheevani147 9a. Re: results of Rahu and Ketu Dasa and Antardasa litsol View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. AATHREYA - Makara Sankraanthi Posted by: "Doctor.BalaKrishnaMurthy Ramaraju,BS,MBBS" dr.ramaraju.balakrishnamurthy vijaya_krishna3444 Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:25 am (PST) AATHREYA – Dr. BalaKrishna Murthy Ramaraju10 Elmwood Dr , Apalachin , NY 13732 - 4300 , U.S.ACell No: 508 – 265 – 1124dr.balakrishnamurth y.ramaraju@ gmail.comdr.ramaraju. balakrishnamurth yAATHREYA – Bhogi , Sankraanthi , KanumaLet us start on Dec. 21 / 22 , the day of Winter Solstice , whenthe night was the longest and day was the shortest.With effect from Dec. 23 rd the day time is slowly catching upwith night time . Sun is rising one minute early and is settingone minute late . A reminder that warm days are ahead andby March 21 / 22 , the day of Vernal / Spring Equinox , theday time would have caught up with night time and both day andnight are of equal length. That is in future , but let us come back.Witheffect from Dec . 21 / 22 , the Sun ( Soorya Bhagawaan )is leaving southern hemisphere and moving towards northernhemisphere , northern sojourn – UttharaayaNam , and He willgrace the people of northern hemisphere for six months untilJune 21 / 22 . UttharaayaNam is day time for Gods .On January 13 / 14 Sun has left Dhanur Raasi ( Sagittarius )and entered Makara Raasi ( Capricorn ) and is known asMakara SankramaNam – Makara Sankraanthi , Pongal , Vishu.According to Solar almanac ( Soorya Maanam ) Dhanur Maasam( month of Sagittarius ) is over and it is the start of Makara Maasam( month of Capricorn ) which will last until Feb. 14.Of all the 12 Sankraanthis in an year , Makara Sankraanthi is themost favored Sankraanthi as harvest has come home , food is aplenty.It is also the time to welcome Bali , who is coming from nether underworld ( down under ) to greet all the people. Houses are decorated withRangoli, front yards are bedecked with flowers , children basking infront of warm fires ( Bhogi Mantalu ) , enjoying themselves on swings ,Hari Daasus singing Bhajans . Happy Happy Four days of Sankraanthi.Makara Sankraanthi is a four day festival – first day Bhogi when thechildren , Bhaavi Prapancha Paurulu – Future World Citizens , areblessed with berries , flower petals and small coins. Second day is theday of Pongal , when the entire family enjoys sweet rice pudding –Pongal.Third and fourth days are Kanuma and Mukkanuma for children toadorn the living room with various Idols , Icons and Toys .Makara Sankraanthi , a four day festival of family gathering ,Thanks giving , for new sons-in-law to visit their inlaws' house to befeasted and feted and expected to depart with their brides after thefestivities are over having been presented with new clothes , gifts etc.Let there be peace every where – Sarve Janaaha Sukhino Bhavanthu .aathreya – dr. bala Krishna murthy ramaraju Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (2) 1b. Re: AATHREYA - Makara Sankraanthi Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:48 am (PST) Resp Dr. BalakrishnaMurthy ,Thanx a lot to post a message on Makara Sankraanthi, It was a great day particularly for me.May lord Sun bless every one with his light of knowledge and light of life.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Doctor.BalaKrishna Murthy Ramaraju,BS, MBBS,MS,FRCS, GERON" <dr.ramaraju. balakrishnamurth y wrote:>> AATHREYA – Dr. BalaKrishna Murthy Ramaraju> > > > 10 Elmwood Dr , Apalachin , NY 13732 - 4300 , U.S.A> > > > Cell No: 508 – 265 – 1124> > > > dr.balakrishnamurth y.ramaraju@ ...> > dr.ramaraju. balakrishnamurth y > > > AATHREYA – Bhogi , Sankraanthi , Kanuma> > > > Let us start on Dec. 21 / 22 , the day of Winter Solstice , when> > the night was the longest and day was the shortest.> > With effect from Dec. 23 rd the day time is slowly catching up> > with night time . Sun is rising one minute early and is setting> > one minute late . A reminder that warm days are ahead and> > by March 21 / 22 , the day of Vernal / Spring Equinox , the> > day time would have caught up with night time and both day and> > night are of equal length. That is in future , but let us come back.> > > > Witheffect from Dec . 21 / 22 , the Sun ( Soorya Bhagawaan )> > is leaving southern hemisphere and moving towards northern> > hemisphere , northern sojourn – UttharaayaNam , and He will> > grace the people of northern hemisphere for six months until> > June 21 / 22 . UttharaayaNam is day time for Gods .> > > > On January 13 / 14 Sun has left Dhanur Raasi ( Sagittarius )> > and entered Makara Raasi ( Capricorn ) and is known as> > Makara SankramaNam – Makara Sankraanthi , Pongal , Vishu.> > > > According to Solar almanac ( Soorya Maanam ) Dhanur Maasam> > ( month of Sagittarius ) is over and it is the start of Makara Maasam> > ( month of Capricorn ) which will last until Feb. 14.> > > > Of all the 12 Sankraanthis in an year , Makara Sankraanthi is the> > most favored Sankraanthi as harvest has come home , food is aplenty.> > It is also the time to welcome Bali , who is coming from nether under> > world ( down under ) to greet all the people. Houses are decorated with> > Rangoli, front yards are bedecked with flowers , children basking in> > front of warm fires ( Bhogi Mantalu ) , enjoying themselves on swings ,> > Hari Daasus singing Bhajans . Happy Happy Four days of Sankraanthi.> > > > Makara Sankraanthi is a four day festival – first day Bhogi when the> > children , Bhaavi Prapancha Paurulu – Future World Citizens , are> > blessed with berries , flower petals and small coins. Second day is the> > day of Pongal , when the entire family enjoys sweet rice pudding –Pongal.> > Third and fourth days are Kanuma and Mukkanuma for children to> > adorn the living room with various Idols , Icons and Toys .> > Makara Sankraanthi , a four day festival of family gathering ,> > Thanks giving , for new sons-in-law to visit their inlaws' house to be> > feasted and feted and expected to depart with their brides after the> > festivities are over having been presented with new clothes , gifts etc.> > > > Let there be peace every where – Sarve Janaaha Sukhino Bhavanthu .> > > > > > aathreya – dr. bala Krishna murthy ramaraju> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (2) 2.1. Re: Mr. Sushil -- > Do u need more !!!! Posted by: "Sushil Dikshit" sushil.dikshit (AT) (DOT) co.in sushil.dikshit Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:20 am (PST) Dear Lalit,You have gone totally mad. I am not known to any Mafia. You do not know anything about me. You can confirm my personal and social character through Baqaya Saheb. He may confirm it from thier batchmates.Your charges about mafia is totally one of the illusions of your mind. A mad man is not expected to behave in a better way than you.Now your want to know about me. I been been a regular contributer of scholarly articles to a national newspaper for three years. I may send scanned copies of my articles or anyone from this forum may confirm it from Shri Shailendra Dixit Chief Editor of "Dainik Jagran"(Bihar Jharkhan and Assam editions) Further I have attended many astrological seminars in last 14 years. You may confirm it from Pt. K.A.Dubey "Padmesh" ji, a noted asrologer. I am not new to astrology like you who does not even basics of astrology and consult here and there for knowing about houses.Now remember I will reply your each mail in the same manner your reply. I am ready to fight in the same way as you are doing with others because you are behaving like a mad elephant. I will not tolerate now any more. I have not hidden interest like other astrologers so you cannot do any damage to my astrology life. Astrology is not a source of bread and butter for me. Further ............ ...(I have removed the sentences from here because you will certainly not be able to tolerate the reality that is the cause of real problem of your madness. and many more things)YOU ARE DOING THE GREATEST DAMAGE TO ASTROLOGY BY POSING YOURSELF AS ASTROLOGER AND FRAUD SADHAK. YOU ARE NOT ONLY VERY CUNNING BUT A CHEAT TOO.IS THE WAY YOUR FAMILY HAS TOUGHT YOU TO BEHAVE TO THE ELDERS IN YOUR SOCIETY.IT WILL BE BETTER IF YOU BAN ME OTHERWISE I AM READY TO REPLY YOUR EACH MAIL IN THE SAME WAY AND YOU HAVE EVERYTHING TO LOOSE HERE. I HAVE NOTHING TO LOOSE.sushil dikshit-- In Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> See Mr. Sushil,> > If the person has command to control his evil side both in personal > and public life, he is balanced, ur's is a dual face, u r a guru in > net and in public and in ur real life u r a facilitator to mafias, > criminals, u have a clever political mind, did u stop ur this ugly > mind to do politics here.> > it's you who interjected with a motive to insult me, insult or honor > i dont care, but i think, it's good to put an end to such type of ur > practice, u did same earlier also.> > Do u have a shame, it cant , coz if u had, u didnt accept that kind > of mixed role guru + mafia (criminal) facilitator. And r playing with > the lives of thousands by ur partnership in a gutkha business run by > those mafias, have u ever thought why u r in such an ugly business, > do u know what is purity of earning.> > What was the weakness in ur personality built up that u have a dual > personality like this, May be, u think u people are the cleverest > one, and the one who is not corrupt like u, needs a conselling, No > Man, Spirituality is stronger and Smarter than ur cleverness.> > > ~Lalit> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil Dikshit" > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Lalit,> > > > Namaste,> > > > I may be wrong in assessing you but it has no harm to consult a > > psychiatrist rightnow. If he says you are ok, it is too good but in > > case you need his help to remove the personality disorder, you > should > > try to remove it. You offen indulge with people known to you. You > try > > to reveal the facts publicly what the person has told you > personally. > > It is really deplorable. > > > > You may be smarter than me in your opinion. But I never told you > that > > I am smarter than you.> > > > You may ask Baqaya sir, I never tried to contact him persoanlly or > > develop relations. Secondly Income Tax Department is a very large > > department. There are eleven Commissioners of Income Tax only at > > Kanpur. I have been posted with many Chief CIT and all of them > liked > > me due to my work not for bootposlishing. You may ask Baqaya sir to > > confirm it from their batchmates. I have worked with two Chief > > commmissioners of the same batch(Panta Saheb and B.K. Sri Saheb. > > > > Further I am in the department where all people come for assessment > > whether they are mafia or religious people. So we come in contact > > with all types of people from society. I can not deny to talk to a > > assessee whether he is mafia or religious person.> > > > If I have a family business, what is the problem in it? > > > > Finally Either you behave soemtimes like a mad person or you are a > > very cunning and opportunist person because you are not ready to > > accept my sincerity shown towards you. I can claim it that you are > > zero at Sadhana otherwise a sadhak must have come to know about the > > real feeling in my heart. You are a big O at Sadhana. You are big > > fraud if you are not accepting my affection towards you.> > > > I will never like to discuss anything with you if you continue to > use > > such a bad language for anyone.> > > > You may ban me because you have right to do so.> > > > regards> > sushil dikshit > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "sanat2221" > > <sanatkumar_ jain@> wrote:> > >> > > (L)alit (I)s (T)otally (S)uppressor (O)f (L)ogic> > > hence he is LITSOL> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Rup Baqaya > > > <baqayarup@> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Rup Baqaya (baqayarup@) has sent you a news article. > > > > (Email address has not been verified.)> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > Personal message:> > > > > > > > And someone was telling the group that he was right when he > said > > > that nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't > know > > > whether the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of > > > intellect is this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.> > > > > > > > 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO - News> > > > > > > > http://news. / s/nm/20080110/ wl_nm/iraq_ deaths_survey_ dc> > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ===> > > > News > > > > http://news. /> > > >> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (36) 3.1. Re: News Story - 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasio Posted by: "Sushil Dikshit" sushil.dikshit (AT) (DOT) co.in sushil.dikshit Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:21 am (PST) LITSOLA MAD MAN DOES NOT CARE FOR EVEN A CRORE OF PEOPLE SO 100 IS TOO LESS FOR YOU.TRY TO GET TREATED YOURSELF AT SOME PSYCHIATRIST CENTER.SUSHIL DIKSHITVedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> Dear Sanat,> > I successfully suppressed ur dirty mission to defame vedic astrology.> I m happy for it, if 100 more people like u get togather, I wont care > to kick u with the power needed to kick out 100 such people.> > ~Lalit.> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "sanat2221" > <sanatkumar_ jain@> wrote:> >> > (L)alit (I)s (T)otally (S)uppressor (O)f (L)ogic> > hence he is LITSOL> > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Rup Baqaya > > <baqayarup@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Rup Baqaya (baqayarup@) has sent you a news article. > > > (Email address has not been verified.)> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Personal message:> > > > > > And someone was telling the group that he was right when he said > > that nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't know > > whether the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of > > intellect is this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.> > > > > > 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO - News> > > > > > http://news. / s/nm/20080110/ wl_nm/iraq_ deaths_survey_ dc> > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ===> > > News > > > http://news. /> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (36) 3.2. Re: Sushil Dixit Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:17 am (PST) Right,Sushil Dixit, I dont care a mafia linked man ... one or one crore ..u urself told about ur partnership with mafias in their gutkha company, U have 12% partnership in their business .... u will teach religion to world, u will teach mantra vidya to world .. ? Safedposh, I understand ur irritation.Now, I must delete u, OK, I wont delete, so that, ur right to give explnation is not curbed, however, I was well aware of ur motives in rejoining the group.~Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil Dikshit" <sushil.dikshit@ ...> wrote:>> > LITSOL> > A MAD MAN DOES NOT CARE FOR EVEN A CRORE OF PEOPLE SO 100 IS TOO LESS > FOR YOU.> > TRY TO GET TREATED YOURSELF AT SOME PSYCHIATRIST CENTER.> > SUSHIL DIKSHIT> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > <litsol@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sanat,> > > > I successfully suppressed ur dirty mission to defame vedic > astrology.> > I m happy for it, if 100 more people like u get togather, I wont > care > > to kick u with the power needed to kick out 100 such people.> > > > ~Lalit.> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "sanat2221" > > <sanatkumar_ jain@> wrote:> > >> > > (L)alit (I)s (T)otally (S)uppressor (O)f (L)ogic> > > hence he is LITSOL> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Rup Baqaya > > > <baqayarup@> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Rup Baqaya (baqayarup@) has sent you a news article. > > > > (Email address has not been verified.)> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > Personal message:> > > > > > > > And someone was telling the group that he was right when he > said > > > that nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't > know > > > whether the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of > > > intellect is this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.> > > > > > > > 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO - News> > > > > > > > http://news. / s/nm/20080110/ wl_nm/iraq_ deaths_survey_ dc> > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ===> > > > News > > > > http://news. /> > > >> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (36) 4a. Re: Time to close the group Posted by: "Sushil Dikshit" sushil.dikshit (AT) (DOT) co.in sushil.dikshit Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:31 am (PST) Dear Litsol,Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this group found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your writings look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology in them. I can prove it from your posts.Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are the pens you use for for your writings.You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember you as Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology.Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role of policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have only three options1. Either correct yourself2. or ban me3. or close the group permanently and leave astrologysushil dikshitVedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> Dear Mr. Kamal,> > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand and > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's esoteric one.> > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was necessary > to give answer to some typical people.> > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not even > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves the > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.> > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do better than > others. Dont worry !> > > regards,> Lalit.> > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Vedic Learner" > <sightsolutions@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Moderator> > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is being > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss.> > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > kamal> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 4b. Re: Yes, Sushil ### Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:39 am (PST) Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply to people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's why i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post other's work in my name.If Google then Google.You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when rahu is there in 7'th in one's chart ...:)What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !!Beware !!~Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil Dikshit" <sushil.dikshit@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Litsol,> > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this group > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your writings > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology in > them. I can prove it from your posts.> > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are the > pens you use for for your writings.> > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember you as > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology.> > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role of > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have only > three options> > 1. Either correct yourself> 2. or ban me> 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology> > sushil dikshit> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > <litsol@> wrote:> >> > Dear Mr. Kamal,> > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand and > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's esoteric > one.> > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > necessary > > to give answer to some typical people.> > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not even > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves the > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.> > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do better > than > > others. Dont worry !> > > > > > regards,> > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Vedic Learner" > > <sightsolutions@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Moderator> > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is being > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss.> > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > kamal> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 4c. Mar/Venus in 12th Posted by: "vreality_au" reality_v (AT) hotmail (DOT) com vreality_au Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:16 pm (PST) Lalit, Gurujis//You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are present in one's chart in 12'th house//Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a brilliantmusician. 22/2/839.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra, IndiaDoes Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts of2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp byJu. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars.Your response would be much appreciated.thanksSu Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsolwrote:>> Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply to > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's why > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post other's > work in my name.> > If Google then Google.> > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when rahu is > there in 7'th in one's chart ...> > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !!> > Beware !!> > ~Lalit.> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil Dikshit" > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:> >> > > > Dear Litsol,> > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this > group > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your > writings > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology in > > them. I can prove it from your posts.> > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are the > > pens you use for for your writings.> > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember you > as > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology.> > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role of > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have only > > three options> > > > 1. Either correct yourself> > 2. or ban me> > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology> > > > sushil dikshit> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > > <litsol@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mr. Kamal,> > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand and > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's esoteric > > one.> > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > > necessary > > > to give answer to some typical people.> > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not even > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves the > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.> > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do better > > than > > > others. Dont worry !> > > > > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Vedic Learner" > > > <sightsolutions@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Moderator> > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is > being > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss.> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > > > kamal> > > >> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 4d. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:22 pm (PST) Dear Su,As per my knowledge, mercury + venus in 12'th can make a person good in art, I know one or two people who are good poet, author etc.. with this combination.With Mars + Venus in 12'th one's character is not good, he w'd have a pleasant personality like artists do have, just to use girls if he is male, and if female, she will use males.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "vreality_au" <reality_v@. ..> wrote:>> Lalit, Gurujis> > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > present in one's chart in 12'th house//> > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a brilliant> musician. > > 22/2/83> 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra, India> > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts of> 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp by> Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars.> > Your response would be much appreciated.> thanks> > Su > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol@>> wrote:> >> > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply to > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's why > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post other's > > work in my name.> > > > If Google then Google.> > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when rahu is > > there in 7'th in one's chart ...> > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !!> > > > Beware !!> > > > ~Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil Dikshit" > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Litsol,> > > > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this > > group > > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your > > writings > > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology in > > > them. I can prove it from your posts.> > > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are the > > > pens you use for for your writings.> > > > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember you > > as > > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology.> > > > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role of > > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have only > > > three options> > > > > > 1. Either correct yourself> > > 2. or ban me> > > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology> > > > > > sushil dikshit> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > > > <litsol@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mr. Kamal,> > > > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand and > > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's esoteric > > > one.> > > > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > > > necessary > > > > to give answer to some typical people.> > > > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not even > > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves the > > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.> > > > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do better > > > than > > > > others. Dont worry !> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Vedic Learner" > > > > <sightsolutions@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Moderator> > > > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is > > being > > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss.> > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > > > > > kamal> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 4e. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th Posted by: "vreality_au" reality_v (AT) hotmail (DOT) com vreality_au Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:41 pm (PST) Dear Lalitthanks for the response. But wouldnt the aspect of Ju mitigate thattrait? And in this particular case the asp of exalted Sa on lag fr 7th?rgdsSuVedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsolwrote:>> Dear Su,> > As per my knowledge, mercury + venus in 12'th can make a person good > in art, I know one or two people who are good poet, author etc.. > with this combination.> > With Mars + Venus in 12'th one's character is not good, he w'd have a > pleasant personality like artists do have, just to use girls if he is > male, and if female, she will use males.> > > regards,> Lalit.> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "vreality_au" > <reality_v@> wrote:> >> > Lalit, Gurujis> > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > present in one's chart in 12'th house//> > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > brilliant> > musician. > > > > 22/2/83> > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra, India> > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts > of> > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp by> > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars.> > > > Your response would be much appreciated.> > thanks> > > > Su > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply > to > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's > why > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > other's > > > work in my name.> > > > > > If Google then Google.> > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > rahu is > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ...> > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !!> > > > > > Beware !!> > > > > > ~Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil Dikshit" > > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Litsol,> > > > > > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this > > > group > > > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your > > > writings > > > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology > in > > > > them. I can prove it from your posts.> > > > > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are > the > > > > pens you use for for your writings.> > > > > > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > > > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember > you > > > as > > > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology.> > > > > > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role > of > > > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have > only > > > > three options> > > > > > > > 1. Either correct yourself> > > > 2. or ban me> > > > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology> > > > > > > > sushil dikshit> > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > > > > <litsol@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mr. Kamal,> > > > > > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand > and > > > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's > esoteric > > > > one.> > > > > > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > > > > necessary > > > > > to give answer to some typical people.> > > > > > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not > even > > > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves > the > > > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.> > > > > > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do > better > > > > than > > > > > others. Dont worry !> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Vedic > Learner" > > > > > <sightsolutions@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Moderator> > > > > > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is > > > being > > > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss.> > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > > > > > > > kamal> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 4f. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:22 pm (PST) Dear SU,Mars + Venus will still give him such instincts, under the belt, but Jupitor will give him wisdom to keep his instincts in the check, but such an instinct will always be there, jupitor gives ability to keep such things in check, will not break the code of the conduct openly.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "vreality_au" <reality_v@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Lalit> thanks for the response. But wouldnt the aspect of Ju mitigate that> trait? And in this particular case the asp of exalted Sa on lag fr 7th?> > rgds> Su> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol@>> wrote:> >> > Dear Su,> > > > As per my knowledge, mercury + venus in 12'th can make a person good > > in art, I know one or two people who are good poet, author etc.. > > with this combination.> > > > With Mars + Venus in 12'th one's character is not good, he w'd have a > > pleasant personality like artists do have, just to use girls if he is > > male, and if female, she will use males.> > > > > > regards,> > Lalit.> > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "vreality_au" > > <reality_v@> wrote:> > >> > > Lalit, Gurujis> > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house//> > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > brilliant> > > musician. > > > > > > 22/2/83> > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra, India> > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the charts > > of> > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 asp by> > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars.> > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated.> > > thanks> > > > > > Su > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or reply > > to > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name that's > > why > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > other's > > > > work in my name.> > > > > > > > If Google then Google.> > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus are > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > > rahu is > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !!> > > > > > > > Beware !!> > > > > > > > ~Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil Dikshit" > > > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Litsol,> > > > > > > > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of this > > > > group > > > > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly your > > > > writings > > > > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to astrology > > in > > > > > them. I can prove it from your posts.> > > > > > > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V are > > the > > > > > pens you use for for your writings.> > > > > > > > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave the > > > > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will remember > > you > > > > as > > > > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology.> > > > > > > > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a role > > of > > > > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you have > > only > > > > > three options> > > > > > > > > > 1. Either correct yourself> > > > > 2. or ban me> > > > > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology> > > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit> > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > > > > > <litsol@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Mr. Kamal,> > > > > > > > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to understand > > and > > > > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's > > esoteric > > > > > one.> > > > > > > > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It was > > > > > necessary > > > > > > to give answer to some typical people.> > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is not > > even > > > > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, deserves > > the > > > > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.> > > > > > > > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do > > better > > > > > than > > > > > > others. Dont worry !> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Vedic > > Learner" > > > > > > <sightsolutions@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Moderator> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty linen is > > > > being > > > > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > > > > > > > > > kamal> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 4g. Re: Mar/Venus in 12th Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:53 pm (PST) Dear SU,Just to add one more thing, mercury alone in 12'th confers very good authoring skills to a native. They articulate themselves very nicely, Mercury's gift to them, If Venus too in 12'th, music, dance and drama may also be there, No wonder .. but enough care should be taken in predicting same in case of mars + venus. regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> Dear SU,> > Mars + Venus will still give him such instincts, under the belt, but > Jupitor will give him wisdom to keep his instincts in the check, but > such an instinct will always be there, jupitor gives ability to keep > such things in check, will not break the code of the conduct openly.> > > regards,> Lalit.> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "vreality_au" > <reality_v@> wrote:> >> > Dear Lalit> > thanks for the response. But wouldnt the aspect of Ju mitigate that> > trait? And in this particular case the asp of exalted Sa on lag fr > 7th?> > > > rgds> > Su> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Su,> > > > > > As per my knowledge, mercury + venus in 12'th can make a person > good > > > in art, I know one or two people who are good poet, author etc.. > > > with this combination.> > > > > > With Mars + Venus in 12'th one's character is not good, he w'd > have a > > > pleasant personality like artists do have, just to use girls if > he is > > > male, and if female, she will use males.> > > > > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "vreality_au" > > > <reality_v@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Lalit, Gurujis> > > > > > > > //You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > are > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house//> > > > > > > > Pray do tell. I have a chart with Mars/Ve in 12th. Lad is a > > > brilliant> > > > musician. > > > > > > > > 22/2/83> > > > 9.57 am, Sangli, Maharashtra, India> > > > > > > > Does Ve in 12th asp by Ju confer musical ability? I hve the > charts > > > of> > > > 2 professional musicians [instrumentalists] who have Ve in 12 > asp by> > > > Ju. One in conj with Me, the above with Mars.> > > > > > > > Your response would be much appreciated.> > > > thanks> > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > <litsol@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Yes Sushil, I use google and best books to post messages or > reply > > > to > > > > > people and if i dont know, I ask elders, I have guts and self > > > > > confidence to not to put collected information in my name > that's > > > why > > > > > i put them in original author's name, I m not greedy to post > > > other's > > > > > work in my name.> > > > > > > > > > If Google then Google.> > > > > > > > > > You know astrology, can u tell what happens when mars + venus > are > > > > > present in one's chart in 12'th house or in 2nd house or when > > > rahu is > > > > > there in 7'th in one's chart ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What sadhana i did, is my asset, u want to see the power of > > > > > spirituality, u will get lessons from tomorrow ... only !!> > > > > > > > > > Beware !!> > > > > > > > > > ~Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Sushil > Dikshit" > > > > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Litsol,> > > > > > > > > > > > Which astrology you are referring to ? Have any member of > this > > > > > group > > > > > > found anything about astrology in your messages. Mostly > your > > > > > writings > > > > > > look like a story book. There is nothing related to > astrology > > > in > > > > > > them. I can prove it from your posts.> > > > > > > > > > > > Google is the book which you read and Ctl + C and Ctl + V > are > > > the > > > > > > pens you use for for your writings.> > > > > > > > > > > > You are the Biggest fraud for vedic astrology. Please leave > the > > > > > > astrology as it is otherwise coming generations will > remember > > > you > > > > > as > > > > > > Mahmood Ghajhni for Vedic Astrology.> > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone try to avoid your madness but I have taken up a > role > > > of > > > > > > policeman and I will correct your behaviour. Mind it. you > have > > > only > > > > > > three options> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Either correct yourself> > > > > > 2. or ban me> > > > > > 3. or close the group permanently and leave astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit> > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > > > > > > <litsol@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Mr. Kamal,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is universal, We have to come a long way to > understand > > > and > > > > > > > spread real vedic astrology rooted in spirituality, it's > > > esoteric > > > > > > one.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we will serve the people with the help of astrology, It > was > > > > > > necessary > > > > > > > to give answer to some typical people.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. dont get disturbed, however, Only, a person, who is > not > > > even > > > > > > > greedy for the knowledge, who stands for the truth, > deserves > > > the > > > > > > > divine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do > > > better > > > > > > than > > > > > > > others. Dont worry !> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > Lalit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Vedic > > > Learner" > > > > > > > <sightsolutions@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Moderator> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this group has lived its life. I see dirty > linen is > > > > > being > > > > > > > washed only now. Hardly any astrology to discuss.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kamal> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 5a. which Mantra's to recite while wearing Pearl ring Posted by: "Isnt That Wonder" adrockz adrockz Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:20 am (PST) Dear group member!I have one pearl ring sent by family member from India, which i have to wear as i am a manglik. As per my little knowledge, we have to recite Mantra's while wearing Pearl ring and also to do some sort or Puja........ .. Can anyone guide me as i was waiting for this period to wear Pearl ring after Makarsankranti.Thanks in Advance.Rakesh Patel Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 5b. Re: which Mantra's to recite while wearing Pearl ring Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:19 am (PST) Dear Rakesh,Pls. post ur horoscope to group, we will have a look into this.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Isnt That Wonder" <adrockz > wrote:>> Dear group member!> > I have one pearl ring sent by family member from India, which i have > to wear as i am a manglik. As per my little knowledge, we have to > recite Mantra's while wearing Pearl ring and also to do some sort or > Puja........ .. Can anyone guide me as i was waiting for this period to > wear Pearl ring after Makarsankranti.> > Thanks in Advance.> > Rakesh Patel> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 5c. Re: which Mantra's to recite while wearing Pearl ring Posted by: "Rakesh Patel" adrockz adrockz Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:16 pm (PST) Namaskar Lalit Ji and other group member,I am seding you Birth details as well as word document for horoscope.Name: Rakeshkumar Somabhai PatelDate of Birth: September 17, 1977Time Of Birth: 03.23 AMPlace Of Birth: Palej, Bharuch, Gujarat, IndiaThanks and RegardsRakesh Patellitsol <litsol > wrote:Dear Rakesh,Pls. post ur horoscope to group, we will have a look into this.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "Isnt That Wonder" <adrockz > wrote:>> Dear group member!> > I have one pearl ring sent by family member from India, which i have > to wear as i am a manglik. As per my little knowledge, we have to > recite Mantra's while wearing Pearl ring and also to do some sort or > Puja........ .. Can anyone guide me as i was waiting for this period to > wear Pearl ring after Makarsankranti.> > Thanks in Advance.> > Rakesh Patel>_.------------ --------- --------- ---Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 6a. Re: Spirituality (RK Da) / How is this Posted by: "arkaydash" arkaydash arkaydash Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:20 pm (PST) Manoj, Aavesh, Lalit and others,I will start my smal trot with Manoj's beside and go a little beyondhouse this or house that.Off-the-cuff I can say what little 'non-detail' you share here is sorelyinadequate for a good enough answer. Mars in eighth and Sat in 12th maynot confer an overtone of moksha per se on a chart. The other sensitivepoints in a horoscope that are marked for the exercise of puruasharthamust have their strong say too. Because moskha is born of the viscera ofdesires and distress, attainment and then forbearance, shining forth andthen retiring into the Source.Thus, this kind of reading is done from the perpective of the 'MokshaTriad' vis-a-vis the other triads, namely artha, kaama and YES dharma.Aaarth and kaama remain vitiated if not infromed by dharma (understandit as just virtue; a whole Western treatise is devoted to the concept'virtue') during their pursuit. And they keep chasing us till our horsesare limp; because, if nothing else, 'the guide never happened to us'.And moksha operates when Artha and Kaama are taken care of in a birth.Or else, the 'money, wine-woman' hangover will cast its long shadow.Even that hangover can invade one's engagement with what is but a toolof strengthening the vision of life. That is what Lalit perhaps meanswhen he in today's posting talks of spirituality in the context ofastrology. What use indeed is the 'Eye of the Vedas' if it is used likea cash crop on the soil of (supper)mind, irrigated by intuition.'Astrology for a living' can never meet the requirements that man hasfor Evolvement. But those who live off astrology are doing fine bythemselves. Nothing out of place.Astrology, which has become the 21st-century engine of all prachyavidyas, has a higher call too. It's not about selling gem stones asruse, nor dazzling the world with the feat of self-fulfillingsoothsaying -- whether Saddam hangs or Baghdad falls or Bhutto leavesscene or Obama arrives.I think, nobody need doubt Lalit's integrity, his intentions, and -- Godforbid -- his sanity. Sky is very high. Let's be thankful we can affordto spit on mother earth. I am proud to quote Lalit from his today'spost about the folding up the group:Only, a person, who is not even greedy for the knowledge, who stands forthe truth, deserves thedivine knowledge and knowledge itself comes to him.We are exploring astrology with open mind and we will do better thanothers. Dont worry !Kamal, don't worry. I know Aavesh won't. And Lalit can't.Wishing for good sense in all members,RKVedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, MANOJ KAR<manoj_kar7@ ...> wrote:>> Respected Gurujans,Namaskar.>> In my natal chart in the 8th house of sagitarius,Mars is placed,whatshould be the effect ? For ur information the saturn is placed in the12th house of aries in deblited & saturn is the lord of 9th & 10th housealso.>> Pl light some thing.>> regards> manoj kar>>> aavesh t aavesh_s wrote:> Namaskar RKDa,>> My intention was not to frighten Lalit but to make him aware that the8th house can relate to spirituality in it's purest form>> As regards study of the esoteric side of Jyotish,you are right : It isa lonely path !!>> Robert Frost said 'There were two roads in front of me and I took theone less travelled ...>> In the ultimate analysis: Jyotish has to help in unfoldment of thetrue potential of each individual on this earth.>> This is only possible if we focus on the esoteric side of this Vidya>> Regards,>> aavesh>>>>> rk dash arkaydash@.. . wrote:> Dear Aavesh,>> Don't pls frighten Lalit by saying that about Behari's book. He maynot be having a such-and-such 8th house to feel so at home with theauthor, but that should be alright.>> I for one find Behari a little overblown, just a little. The fact ofthe matter is, yes, astrology as we know and are 'supposed' to know isexoteric. The esoteric coordiantes you will have to explore more or lesson your own.>> Happy questing,> RK>>> On 09/01/2008, aavesh t aavesh_s wrote: Dear Lalit,>> You are right : 8th is the house of aspects that are Hidden.>> The 8th house is the most misunderstood house in the chart.> There is a lot of fear associated with the 8th house because it is thehouse of death (mode of death),humiliation, long term diseases etc>> This house corresponds to Vrischik Rasi in the Kalapurusha. Thesexuality part that you mention refers to the lower energies of thishouse.>> However,this house can give a highly evolved soul (Refer to the chartof Paramahamsa Yogananda to get an idea of what I am referring to)>> Another clue:Apprach this house from the point of view of esotericastrology (Chakras) rather than exoteric astrology (which most authorstend to do in their books)>> You can refer to the works of Bepin Behari for this (His book 'A studyin Astrological Occutism' is a gem in this regard).>> Be prepared to burn the midnight oil as Bepin Behari's books can bereally taxing on the best of days>> Regards,>> aavesh>>>>> litsol litsol wrote:> Aavesh Sir and Shivani Ji,>> Can i put my thoughts, 8'th shows digging, sadhana, when u go deep, u> start put ur steps towards occultism, u become attractive to opposit> sex.... but it's not the light of spirituality.>> 9'th is the channel to 10'th, we should see the light of spirituality> in 10'th house provided what is said earlier is true, is activated.>> World gets confused in understanding who is spiritual and who is not,> and Osho like people emerge, who himself is confused doesnt know what> he speaks for, they will only confuse their audience.>> This is what i understood.>> regards,> Lalit.>>>>>> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com , "sheevani147"> wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaye.> >> > Namaste Aavesh ji,> >> > Thank you so much for the information about spiritual inclinations> > with reference to the said 'interesting' chart..> >> > ''(i)Lagna is Dhanur Rasi with Lagnesh Guru in 8th (Uccha> Rasi).Guru> > is aspected by Shani Maharaj (Vakri) and is in Yuti with Mangal> > (Neecha).. with parivartan with 5th house..'''> >> > The 8H does play a pivotal role.. linking the lagna,5H,and 11H and> > jupiter aspecting 12H.> >> > Navamsha lagna differs.. I wonder if u used the time difference as> > standard +8GMT.. For births b4 1963, time difference is +7:30..> > However it doesnt change much, as then karakamsa will then be in> the> > 9H, giving similar results..> >> > As for 5H indications. .. I think silence speaks volumes...> >> >> > Thank you so very much> >> > Sheevani> >> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com , aavesh t> > wrote:> > >> > > Continuing from my previous mail :> > >> > > The chart that you have furnished is very interesting (to put> it> > mildly)> > >> > > My observations:> > >> > > (i)Lagna is Dhanur Rasi with Lagnesh Guru in 8th (Uccha> > Rasi).Guru is> > > aspected by Shani Maharaj (Vakri) and is in Yuti with Mangal> > (Neecha)> > >> > > (ii)Rasi is Mesha aspected by Shani Maharaj and Rahu.This is> not> > a good factor from the emotional point of view (leads to> > disappointments in matters of the heart)> > >> > > (iii)The 7th house is occupied by 4 planets giving rise to> > Pravrajya Yoga.This is a significant Yoga for this chart.Due to the> > weakness of the 10th lord actual 'Sanyas' will not take place> > (however there will be ocassions when the native will want to 'get> > away' from the chaos of city life)> > >> > > (iv)The yuti of 5th and 8th Lord with Lanesh is good for> > spirituality. Due to the weakness of 5th lord and aspect of Shani> > Maharaj the path will not be smooth> > >> > > (v)Rahu is the Atmakaraka placed in the 1st house in Neecha> Rasi.> > >> > > Currently Rahu-Mars is in operation which will bring a> heightened> > interest in the occult.In D-9 Karakamasha is occupied by Surya> which> > agains point to a great thirst for spirituality> > >> > > In sum this chart is very good for spirituality. The coming> Dasha> > of Guru will be very critical in this regard (particularly Guru-> Guru> > and> > > Guru-Ketu periods)> > >> > > Would appreciate your feedback on the above> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > aavesh> > >> > >> > >> > > aavesh t wrote:> > > Tue, 8 Jan 2008 09:12:29 +0000 (GMT)> > > aavesh t> > > Spirituality (Sheevani)> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > >> > > Namaskar Sheevani & Lalit ,> > >> > > Sheevani: I am answering your query on spirituality on the> basis> > of the chart furnished by you (I am assuming that this chart> belongs> > to you)> > >> > > The main houses for spirituality are :> > >> > > (i) 5th House (Purva Punya),> > >> > > (ii)9th House (Bhagya Sthana).> > >> > > (iii) 8th(spiritual inclination) and 12th (meditation) houses> > also should be considered> > >> > > (iv)The Moksha Trikona (houses 4th,8th and 12th houses are very> > significant in this respect)> > >> > > The points to be considered are :> > >> > > (a)Grahas occupying these houses> > >> > > (b)Aspecting these houses> > >> > > ©Positions of Lords of these houses> > >> > > The main Grahas for spirituality are Guru,Shani Maharaj and> Ketu> > (These have to be studied in depth)> > >> > > The position of the Chara Atmakaraka in Navamsha (Karakamsha)> > provides vital clues to the level of spirituality of the soul> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > aavesh> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > sheevani147 wrote:> > > OM NAMAH SHIVAYE> > >> > > Namaste Aaveshji,> > >> > > Thank you for your compliments but I am not sure I deserve them..> > > Knowledge is difficult to quantify and Learning is a life-long> > > activity.. I am only a learner in astrology..> > >> > > I feel I know only the very basics of Jaimini Jyotish,, enough to> > > just get by., not very confident.. but I do understand the .> > various> > > carakarkas.> > >> > > Details of female native,> > > D.o.b 14th july 1955> > > Time 18:02 hrs> > > Place, Penang, Malaysia> > > Timezone 7:30 east of GMT applicable> > > ( post 1963 the time zone became 8hrs east of GMT)> > >> > > Events..> > > First travelled to UK.. 10th August 1975,> > > Marriage ..23rd December 1980> > > Birth of child.. (female)..24th May 1986.> > >> > > Sorry to trouble you but I do appreciate and value your advice> and> > > teaching..> > >> > > with respects> > > Sheevani> > >> > >> > >> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, aavesh t> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaskar Sheevani,> > > >> > > > It is nice to see your interest in spirituality.> > > >> > > > You seem to be quite knowledgeable in Jyotish yourself (as is> > > evident from your mails)> > > >> > > > I will certainly answer your questions (quite a few as you have> > > pointed out)> > > >> > > > Before that pls let me have the following information:> > > >> > > > (i)A brief background of your Jyotish study (specifically> Jaimini> > > Jyotish).This info is required since my explanation will involve> > > discussion of Atmakaraka and Karakamsha extensively> > > >> > > > (ii)As always I will require the complete birth details,sex of> > > the native and dates of two incidents for me to comment on the> > chart> > > which you> > > > have mentioned> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > aavesh> > > >> > > >> > > > sheevani147 wrote:> > > > OM NAMAH SHIVAYE> > > >> > > > Namaste Aaveshji,,> > > >> > > > I am sure you might have covered this area before, but may I> ask> > if> > > > you could be so kind as to discuss basic requirements for> > > indicating> > > > spiritual development. . I understand the 5H,9H 10H link is> > > necessary> > > > together with 8th 11th 12th and 2nd house should also be> > considered.> > > >> > > > Planets like sun, jupiter , shani, ketu and moon need to be> > looked> > > > at..> > > >> > > > What yogas and aruda positions would u consider,,eg. .tapaswi> yoga> > > and> > > > 3rd and 6th from AL having benefics etc.. Navamsha and Visamsha> > > > considerations? ?> > > >> > > > Then the mahadasha and antradasha periods to time the events..> > > >> > > > With Dhanus lagna with rahu, Moon in 5H, sun,me,ke,ve 7H, Ju,ma> > 8H> > > > and Shaniji is vakra in 11th.. there is 5H/8H parivartana. .> > Kindly> > > > assess the spiritual indications. .> > > >> > > > Thank you so very much and please pardon me asking so many> > > questions..> > > >> > > > Respectfully> > > > Sheevani> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com , aavesh t> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Lalit,> > > > >> > > > > I had a look at your chart today morning.The reason for your> > > > present restlessness is very clear in your chart.> > > > >> > > > > (i)You are currently running the last phase of Saade-> Saati.The> > > > Yuti of Shani Maharaj and Ketu in the 2nd from Natal Moon is> the> > > > reason for your present turmoil> > > > >> > > > > (ii)You have a chart that is tailormade for spirituality> > (Lagnesh> > > > in 8th in Yuti with 9th lord,Ketu in Uccha Rasi in the 10th,5th> > > lord> > > > in 5th and aspect of Guru on the 12th from it's position in the> > 8th> > > > house)> > > > >> > > > > Shani Maharaj is your Atmakaraka placed in the 7th house.This> > > > position of the Atmakaraka points to the fact that your> spiritual> > > > journey is not going to be a cakewalk. You will have to bear a> > lot> > > of> > > > pain in your personal life owing to this position.This will> serve> > > to> > > > mould your spirituality in the long term> > > > >> > > > > The coming Dasha of Ketu (The Ketu-Ketu period from 26th June> > > > 2008 to 19th November 2008 will be very significant from the> > point> > > of> > > > view of your spiritual growth)> > > > >> > > > > Please perform the Graha Shantis for Shani Maharaj,Mangal,> Guru> > > > and Ketu which will help to reduce the level of intensity with> > > which> > > > you are living life presently (at breakneck speed to put it> > mildly)> > > > >> > > > > Your nature can be summed up as `Rebel with a cause and> without> > a> > > > pause'> > > > >> > > > > Keep up your Saadhana and you will certainly reach the goal> (as> > > > you are aware)> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > aavesh> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Hi, Can u confirm if without a relationship with 2nd, 12'th can still make one a critic, where is the root for criticism ? regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Shindi <sinhazz wrote: > > Hi All, > The twelfth house ---- > Any planet in the twelfth house will give the person qualities with respect to that planet or combination of planets. Now the thing is how to deduce the effect... So for that judge according to the rules given below: > 1. If the planet is in enemy house he will be a critic of the trait represented by the combination of planets. > 2. If the planet is in friend sign he will be good in those traits. > 3. If the planet is debilitated, he will be a destructor of that trait(e.g., art or science with respect to that planet). > 4. If the planet is exalted he will be enriched in that art and can even attain fame with respect to that trait. > > Likewise planetary and thereafter sign aspect (nakshatra lord being important in this) will manipulate this positively and negatively accordingly. > > To know when these traits will be in prominence in that person find the days of that nakshatra in which the corresponding planet is and the time can be found by the combinatorial effect of nakshatra lord and lagna. > > Thanks and regards, > Amit Sinha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hi, Here critic implies speaking out only negatively on that subject or extracting out negativities only. And for that the second house relationship is'nt required. Thanks and regards, Amit Sinha Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:40 am (PST) Hi,Can u confirm if without a relationship with 2nd, 12'th can still make one a critic, where is the root for criticism ?regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Shindi <sinhazz > wrote:>> Hi All,> The twelfth house ----> Any planet in the twelfth house will give the person qualities with respect to that planet or combination of planets. Now the thing is how to deduce the effect... So for that judge according to the rules given below:> 1. If the planet is in enemy house he will be a critic of the trait represented by the combination of planets.> 2. If the planet is in friend sign he will be good in those traits.> 3. If the planet is debilitated, he will be a destructor of that trait(e.g., art or science with respect to that planet).> 4. If the planet is exalted he will be enriched in that art and can even attain fame with respect to that trait.> > Likewise planetary and thereafter sign aspect (nakshatra lord being important in this) will manipulate this positively and negatively accordingly.> > To know when these traits will be in prominence in that person find the days of that nakshatra in which the corresponding planet is and the time can be found by the combinatorial effect of nakshatra lord and lagna.> > Thanks and regards,> Amit Sinha> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hi, It's something new, what is the reasoning for 12'th giving negativity in speech, speech follows thoughts, should we not take thought process into consideration .. Dont u think at least moon should be involved somewhere, Lagna, 2nd, 4'th and 5'th should have some function in making a person like this. It's interesting to reveal this ... .. do u have some charts. Regards, ~Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Shindi <sinhazz wrote: > > Hi, > Here critic implies speaking out only negatively on that subject or extracting out negativities only. > And for that the second house relationship is'nt required. > > Thanks and regards, > Amit Sinha > Posted by: " litsol " litsol litsol > Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:40 am (PST) > Hi, > > Can u confirm if without a relationship with 2nd, 12'th can still > make one a critic, where is the root for criticism ? > > regards, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Shindi <sinhazz@ > > wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > The twelfth house ---- > > Any planet in the twelfth house will give the person qualities with > respect to that planet or combination of planets. Now the thing is > how to deduce the effect... So for that judge according to the rules > given below: > > 1. If the planet is in enemy house he will be a critic of the trait > represented by the combination of planets. > > 2. If the planet is in friend sign he will be good in those traits. > > 3. If the planet is debilitated, he will be a destructor of that > trait(e.g., art or science with respect to that planet). > > 4. If the planet is exalted he will be enriched in that art and can > even attain fame with respect to that trait. > > > > Likewise planetary and thereafter sign aspect (nakshatra lord being > important in this) will manipulate this positively and negatively > accordingly. > > > > To know when these traits will be in prominence in that person find > the days of that nakshatra in which the corresponding planet is and > the time can be found by the combinatorial effect of nakshatra lord > and lagna. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > Amit Sinha > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www./r/hs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Dear All ,Namaskar. In my 12th saturn placed in deblited & it also lord of 9th & 10th.What should be the effect ? regards manojShindi <sinhazz wrote: Hi, Here critic implies speaking out only negatively on that subject or extracting out negativities only. And for that the second house relationship is'nt required. Thanks and regards, Amit Sinha Posted by: "litsol" litsol litsol Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:40 am (PST) Hi,Can u confirm if without a relationship with 2nd, 12'th can still make one a critic, where is the root for criticism ?regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Shindi <sinhazz > wrote:>> Hi All,> The twelfth house ----> Any planet in the twelfth house will give the person qualities with respect to that planet or combination of planets. Now the thing is how to deduce the effect... So for that judge according to the rules given below:> 1. If the planet is in enemy house he will be a critic of the trait represented by the combination of planets.> 2. If the planet is in friend sign he will be good in those traits.> 3. If the planet is debilitated, he will be a destructor of that trait(e.g., art or science with respect to that planet).> 4. If the planet is exalted he will be enriched in that art and can even attain fame with respect to that trait.> > Likewise planetary and thereafter sign aspect (nakshatra lord being important in this) will manipulate this positively and negatively accordingly.> > To know when these traits will be in prominence in that person find the days of that nakshatra in which the corresponding planet is and the time can be found by the combinatorial effect of nakshatra lord and lagna.> > Thanks and regards,> Amit Sinha> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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