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Dear Nalini, Thanks. I shall have a look at the chart and post my observations over the weekend Regards, aavesh nalini swamy <nalini2818 wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Hraum Namah Adityaya Aavesh ji, Namaskar. I am enclosing the chart, I have tried to atleast fit the rasi chart as the birthtime is not recorded but merely noted as about the time in the evening, time when lamps are lit as the native and his family did/do not have faith in astrology. I can give a few facts about the native known/told to me: He is very religious and has immense faith in Lord Venkateswara and while in India undertook pilgrimages to Tirupati once a month and uphill by foot. He is a strict vegetarian, does not smoke, drink. The other Venusian activities I am not sure of/do not know. Very short tempered and easily roused

and is vicious(speech) when angry. Suffers from Diabetes(from Sep/Oct 2005) and Hypertension. Left India on 12th August 2004 and reached the place of present stay on 14th August. Facing severe hard ship professionally and financial to some extent( certainly much detrimental than in homeland, where he had lacked nothing). Native's fortunes rose after marriage and girl from a higher status. The native's mother passed away in Dec 1998. Likes children(all) very much, very playful and a cheerful countenance. Looking forward to your observations and other learned, Chandrasekhar ji, and a learning experience to follow(for me). Regards Nalini Nalini Swamy aavesh t <aavesh_sVedic Astrologyandhealing Sent: Thursday, 31 January, 2008 10:52:15 PM[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Jyotish Remedies-Nalini Dear Nalini, This is what I meant when I said fall from position. Shani

Maharaj can be very unsparing if one does not follow the Sattvic path or is overly ambitious !! You can furnish the birth details of this person and we can discuss the role of Shani Maharaj in the 10th using this as a casestudy (Of course the decision to furnish the data is left to your discretion) Regards, aavesh nalini swamy <nalini2818 > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Respected Aavesh ji, Namaskar. Best wishes for your recovery. Would'nt it make a difference if Shani Maharaj is the lagna lord? I have a chart(un rectified and not very accurate birth time) where Shanishwar( He is the only planet/God/Celestia l Being who has a suffix- Eashwar other than Lord Shiva himself),lagnesh is in the 10th. The native worked hard even during childhood(9th and 10th classes) and after lot of suffering rose up in life to the position of Vice president in a Company. He relocated abroad and has never attained anything very remotely connected to his erstwhile status and has started in an entry level position. I do hold a view of Dual lordship of Kumbha and vrishchika and in this chart, Rahu being stronger is the Lagna lord and is also involved in a Guru Chandala Yoga in the 9th, Tula with Chandra-6th lord. Though Lagna changes sign I thought Kumbha more apt as he always did have problems with the boss(female too) and also reluctance to accept/submit to authority, arguments and fights-verbal. Native's son (eldest) has not conformed to the family traditions and has gone against the family/culture/ norms. Any thoughts? Regards Nalini Nalini Swamy aavesh t <aavesh_s (AT) (DOT) co.in>Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.comThursday, 31 January, 2008 10:18:24 PM[Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Jyotish Remedies Dear Chandrashekarji, Very important points that you have mentioned in your mail Sir. Shani Maharaj in the 10th when alone (and unaspected) can bring about a severe downfall (as per Dr B.V. Raman's research) Regards, aavesh Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Sheevani,If you think I could throw some light on this, I am very happy.Take care,Chandrashekhar.sheevani147 wrote: Namaste Chandrasekhar ji,Lovely views on Shani Maharaj.. much appreciated. . understanding the planets nature and intentions is the key issue..RegardsSheevaniVedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har wrote:>> Dear Aavesh,> > Yes that is true. I look at Shani in the following manner. Shani likes >

his favorites to be bereft of ego and to keep low profile as he is > himself one who looks down and prefers darkness of night to light of the > day. So the polite ones and those able to put in great efforts in > achieving targets, with great patience are his favorites. When his > favorites stray from this path before bestowing his favour on them he > brings them to ground and destroys their ego. He is called the great > planet in Linga Purana.> > Take care,> Chandrashekhar.> > aavesh t wrote:> > Namaskar Chandrashekarji, Nalini and others,> > > > _Chandrashekarji: _You have made a valid point Sir.> > > > _Lord Shiva is the overruler of Shani.Shani Maharaj is kind to > > devotees of Hanuman and Lord Shiva in my experience._> > > > Interestingly, Shani Maharaj favours people who are non covetous by

> > nature and who help the poor and needy without expecting anything in > > return (which is rare in these times)> > > > Regards,> > > > aavesh> > > > > >> >> > */Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har/ * wrote:> >> > Dear Nalini, Aavesh, RK and others,> >> > If I may add my two cents worth to what is being said. We need to> > understand that Saturn being the brother of Yama the Dharma raj,> > it is his duty to cleanse us of our sins by balancing out our> > misdeeds of past life with sorrows in this life. that way he> > actually shows the path to salvation and also gives us the> > capacity to face calamities in life. So we should be grateful to> > him, for making us toe the line of Dharma.> >> > Chandrashekhar.>

>> > nalini swamy wrote:> >> Hare Rama Krsna> >> Aavesh ji, RK ji, Dheeraj ji and all,> >> > >> Namaskar.> >> I would'nt dare attribute all suffering in mankind to Shani> >> Maharaj, only in those charts which have 'his stamp'- propensity> >> for sorrow, gloom, suffering, as you rightly said directly> >> proportional to the accumulated( ing) Karma. It is just that He> >> being a disciplinarian and a hard task master accomplishes this> >> task more easily and readily.> >> My apologies if I had conveyed something other than what I> >> intended to.> >> Also right is how we react to suffering, karma, is again a major> >> factor, as pointed out by you, most people cry' why me' . But if> >> suffering is seen as cleansing of the karma we would say,

Thank> >> God it is me, which is also relative to the 'evolution of the> >> soul' and its progress towards its Destiny. > >> Each to his/her own I would say...> >> Regards> >> Nalini> >> > >> // > >>> >>> >> > >> aavesh t <aavesh_s@.. .>> >> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> >> Friday, 25 January, 2008 9:58:33 PM> >> [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Jyotish Remedies> >>> >> Namskar RKDa,Nalini, Dheeraj and Group,> >> > >> Dheeraj has raised a very importnat topic which has relevance in> >> the competitive world

of today.> >> > >> The issue of 'Remedial measures in Jyotish' (Upayes)> >> > >> In my experience, Upayes C_ertainly work_> >> > >> The criterion applicable here is to understand the working of Karma.> >> > >> _Karma can be divided into 'Dhrida' and 'Adridha' Karma in general._> >> _Upayes work on the Adridha Karma (Karma which can be changed by> >> efforts)_> >> > >> This is a huge subject in itself which requires thorough> >> understanding of Jyotish,Hindu Philosophy,Ayurveda and Yoga> >> > >> _Nalini :_You have made an interesting point vis-a-vis the> >> ability to bear sorrows.> >> > >> It would be wrong to blame 'Shani Maharaj' for all the sorrows> >> afflicting humankind today (Shani Maharaj is a teacher who

metes> >> out sorrows in proportion to our Karmas)> >> > >> How we react to the sufferings is based on the soulic development> >> of the individual> >> > >> I will continue after getting reactions on the above> >> > >> Regards,> >> > >> aavesh> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >

>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>

> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> >>> >> */nalini swamy <nalini2818>/* wrote:> >>> >> Hare Rama Krsna> >> Shree RK ji,> >> Namaskar.> >> Are you a lover of Greek (and Roman) tragedies as well??> >> I loved the tragedies of Seneca above all.. probably> >> proclivity of Shani Maharaj..> >> Wow

what a world it(was addicted to Greek and Roman> >> literature since childhood) was which I hated to give up but> >> had to after a while but not before taking it up for study> >> for my PG.> >> Coming to Jyotish, is it not very akin to the fear the Greeks> >> had for 'hubris' and punishment from Gods??> >> How and what could one do to dispel this fear of the planets???> >> Is there really a remedy for the 'karma; accumulated or is> >> the remedy more a strengthening of the' free will' to weather> >> the storm, be more prepared for the onslaught, cling for life> >> in the rapids, a respite from sinking into the bog..> >> How about the propensity of some 'charts' for suffering..> >> again a proclivity of Shani Maharaj?> >> When I used to live in Chennai, I sometimes wondered at

the> >> pure laughter of my domestic help which rang out sometimes in> >> the neighbour's house where she lived? > >> If difficulties form the soul boy, did she not have her fair> >> share then??> >> What is it then that gives that 'pure joy' ?It is not absence> >> of difficulties then..> >> it is something that emerges from inside which is irrelevent> >> to suffering, difficulties, penury, disease, worry?> >> Or was that contentment. . no no it could not be for she was> >> forever trying to make ends meet, poor mite!!!> >> Shani Maharaj even if he gives suffering also tempers the> >> 'steel' and also insulates it so that further shocks do not> >> break the core.Who knows he may even make the native a sucker> >> for 'tragedies' preparing him/her to 'enjoy' the

tragedies> >> that life may unfold. I am not being flippant here but> >> probably better replace 'enjoy' with 'grin and bear'.> >> I would love to participate in this thread if I may, and> >> sorry RK ji, for intruding..> >> > >> Regards> >> Nalini> >> > >>> >>> >> > >> rk dash <arkaydash (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> >> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> >> Friday, 25 January, 2008 4:23:22 AM> >> Re: [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] remedy experiences> >> ---litsol> >>> >> Considerable idea, Shree Dheeraj.> >> We hope we should be able to organise

this kind of discussion> >> here. The very fact of remedy being a source of ware-hawking> >> is sort of preventing as much quality discussion of the> >> discipline as we should be doing. 'Remdial jyotish' has,> >> ironically, poked The Eye of Knowledge in its very eyes. I> >> mean even non-remedial astrology has contracted the craze for> >> happiness-shaping, like lifestyle-shaping. But there should> >> be room for some ways out of the whiplashes. Well, sometimes> >> karma unrolls that way.> >> > >> *A line by Seneca comes to mind: 'Difficulties strengthen the> >> mind, as does labour the body.' If we push the Western> >> classical drift further, we can say: Yes, difficulties form> >> the soul.*> >> ** > >> *But we need respite. Or do we need a good

time in the name> >> of absence of difficulties? Member Aavesh will add his> >> reflections to this thread.*> >> > >> RK> >>> >> > >> On 24/01/2008, *DHEERAJ KHOSLA* <khosladheeraj@ > >> <khosladheer aj> wrote:> >>> >> Namaste Litsol and others,> >>> >> Please do a study and research on> >> remedies of astrological combinations. i mean to say peoples> >> experiences about worships . Like curses - where a planet is> >> afflicted by two malefics or three malefics . how many> >> days ,> >> how many malas etc.. to get relief.> >>> >> How many jataks in actual>

>> life have experiences of betterment after performing> >> remedies.?> >>> >> IS really can we alter our> >> destiny?> >> How to do different remedies , depending> >> on intensity of afflictions rather doing zigzag mantras ?> >>> >> please give it a thought . a teamwork s required .> >>> >> thanks,> >> dheeraj> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Send instant messages to your online friends> >> http://au.messenger .> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> *With Best Wishes,*> >> ** > >> *aavesh*> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------------> >> Forgot the

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Dear Nalini,

 

That is an interesting chart, because lagna change within a few

minutes. The general description of the jataka does seem to match the

chart, barring the having faith in God and loss of temper. Rahu,

Jupiter Moon combination is not very conducive for one to have firm

faith in the matters indicated by the 9th bhava. Moon does cause the

bhava indication to be variable. For loss of temper either the lagna or

the 5th should have some connection with either Ketu or Mars.

 

As to his not having attained the same position as when in motherland,

perhaps we have to wait till his Venus dasha begins around October

2008. lagnesha in the 10th does indicate that the jataka will get fame

through own efforts. There could however be a lack of matru and pitru

sukha for the jataka.

 

I would suggest checking for Dhanu lagna too.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

 

nalini swamy wrote:

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna

Hraum Namah Adityaya

 

Aavesh ji,

Namaskar.

I am enclosing the chart, I have tried to

atleast fit the rasi chart as the birthtime is not recorded but merely

noted as about the time in the evening, time when lamps are lit as the

native and his family did/do not have faith in astrology.

I can give a few facts about the native

known/told to me:

He is very religious and has immense faith

in Lord Venkateswara and while in India undertook pilgrimages to

Tirupati once a month and uphill by foot.

He is a strict vegetarian, does not smoke,

drink. The other Venusian activities I am not sure of/do not know.

Very short tempered and easily roused and is

vicious(speech) when angry.

Suffers from Diabetes(from Sep/Oct 2005) and

Hypertension.

Left India on 12th August 2004 and reached

the place of present stay on 14th August. Facing severe hard ship

professionally and financial to some extent( certainly much detrimental

than in homeland, where he had lacked nothing).

Native's fortunes rose after marriage and

girl from a higher status.

The native's mother passed away in Dec 1998.

Likes children(all) very much, very playful

and a cheerful countenance.

Looking forward to your observations and

other learned, Chandrasekhar ji, and a learning

experience to follow(for me).

 

Regards

Nalini 

 

 

 

 

Nalini Swamy

 

 

 

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Original Message ----

aavesh t <aavesh_s (AT) (DOT) co.in>

Vedic Astrologyandhealing

Thursday, 31 January, 2008 10:52:15 PM

[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Jyotish Remedies-Nalini

 

 

 

Dear Nalini,

 

This is what I meant when I

said fall from position.

 

Shani Maharaj can be very

unsparing if one does not follow the Sattvic path or is overly

ambitious !!

 

You can furnish the birth

details of this person and we can discuss the role of Shani Maharaj in

the 10th using this as a casestudy (Of course the decision to furnish

the data is left to your discretion)

 

Regards,

 

aavesh

 

 

 

 

nalini swamy <nalini2818 > wrote:

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna

Respected Aavesh ji,

 

Namaskar.

Best wishes for your recovery.

Would'nt it make a difference if Shani

Maharaj is the lagna lord?

I have a chart(un rectified and not very

accurate birth time) where Shanishwar( He is the only

planet/God/Celestia l Being who has a suffix- Eashwar other than Lord

Shiva himself),lagnesh is in the 10th. The native worked hard even

during childhood(9th and 10th classes) and after lot of suffering rose

up in life to the position of Vice president in a Company. He relocated

abroad and has never attained anything very remotely connected to his

erstwhile status and has started in an entry level position.

I do hold a view of Dual lordship of

Kumbha and vrishchika and in this chart, Rahu being stronger is the

Lagna lord and is also involved in a Guru Chandala Yoga in the 9th,

Tula with Chandra-6th lord.

Though Lagna changes sign I thought

Kumbha more apt as he always did have problems with the boss(female

too) and also reluctance to accept/submit to authority, arguments and

fights-verbal.

Native's son (eldest) has not conformed

to the family traditions and has gone against the family/culture/ norms.

Any thoughts?

Regards

Nalini

 

 

 

 

Nalini Swamy

 

 

 

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Original Message ----

aavesh t <aavesh_s (AT) (DOT) co.in>

Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com

Thursday, 31 January, 2008 10:18:24 PM

[Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Jyotish Remedies

 

 

 

Dear Chandrashekarji,

 

Very important points that you have

mentioned in your mail Sir.

 

Shani Maharaj in the 10th when

alone (and unaspected) can bring about a severe downfall (as per Dr

B.V. Raman's research)

 

Regards,

 

aavesh

 

 

Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

wrote:

Dear Sheevani,

 

If you think I could throw some light on this, I am very happy.

Take care,

Chandrashekhar.

 

sheevani147 wrote:

 

 

Namaste Chandrasekhar ji,

 

Lovely views on Shani Maharaj.. much appreciated. . understanding the

planets nature and intentions is the key issue..

 

Regards

Sheevani

 

Vedic Astrologyandhe

aling@ s.com, Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashek har wrote:

>

> Dear Aavesh,

>

> Yes that is true. I look at Shani in the following manner. Shani

likes

> his favorites to be bereft of ego and to keep low profile as he is

 

> himself one who looks down and prefers darkness of night to light

of the

> day. So the polite ones and those able to put in great efforts in

> achieving targets, with great patience are his favorites. When his

 

> favorites stray from this path before bestowing his favour on them

 

he

> brings them to ground and destroys their ego. He is called the

great

> planet in Linga Purana.

>

> Take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> aavesh t wrote:

> > Namaskar Chandrashekarji, Nalini and others,

> >

> > _Chandrashekarji: _You have made a valid point Sir.

> >

> > _Lord Shiva is the overruler of Shani.Shani Maharaj is kind

to

> > devotees of Hanuman and Lord Shiva in my experience._

> >

> > Interestingly, Shani Maharaj favours people who are non

covetous

by

> > nature and who help the poor and needy without expecting

anything

in

> > return (which is rare in these times)

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > aavesh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > */Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har/ * wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nalini, Aavesh, RK and others,

> >

> > If I may add my two cents worth to what is being said. We

need to

> > understand that Saturn being the brother of Yama the Dharma

raj,

> > it is his duty to cleanse us of our sins by balancing out our

> > misdeeds of past life with sorrows in this life. that way he

> > actually shows the path to salvation and also gives us the

> > capacity to face calamities in life. So we should be grateful

 

to

> > him, for making us toe the line of Dharma.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > nalini swamy wrote:

> >> Hare Rama Krsna

> >> Aavesh ji, RK ji, Dheeraj ji and all,

> >>

> >> Namaskar.

> >> I would'nt dare attribute all suffering in mankind to

Shani

> >> Maharaj, only in those charts which have 'his stamp'-

propensity

> >> for sorrow, gloom, suffering, as you rightly said directly

> >> proportional to the accumulated( ing) Karma. It is just

that

He

> >> being a disciplinarian and a hard task master

accomplishes

this

> >> task more easily and readily.

> >> My apologies if I had conveyed something other than what I

> >> intended to.

> >> Also right is how we react to suffering, karma, is again

a

major

> >> factor, as pointed out by you, most people cry' why me' .

 

But if

> >> suffering is seen as cleansing of the karma we would say,

 

Thank

> >> God it is me, which is also relative to the 'evolution of

the

> >> soul' and its progress towards its Destiny.

> >> Each to his/her own I would say...

> >> Regards

> >> Nalini

> >>

> >> //

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> aavesh t <aavesh_s@.. .>

> >> Vedic Astrologyandhe

aling@ s.com

> >> Friday, 25 January, 2008 9:58:33 PM

> >> [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Jyotish Remedies

> >>

> >> Namskar RKDa,Nalini, Dheeraj and Group,

> >>

> >> Dheeraj has raised a very importnat topic which has

relevance in

> >> the competitive world of today.

> >>

> >> The issue of 'Remedial measures in Jyotish' (Upayes)

> >>

> >> In my experience, Upayes C_ertainly work_

> >>

> >> The criterion applicable here is to understand the

working

of Karma.

> >>

> >> _Karma can be divided into 'Dhrida' and 'Adridha' Karma

in

general._

> >> _Upayes work on the Adridha Karma (Karma which can be

changed by

> >> efforts)_

> >>

> >> This is a huge subject in itself which requires thorough

> >> understanding of Jyotish,Hindu Philosophy,Ayurveda and

Yoga

> >>

> >> _Nalini :_You have made an interesting point vis-a-vis the

> >> ability to bear sorrows.

> >>

> >> It would be wrong to blame 'Shani Maharaj' for all the

sorrows

> >> afflicting humankind today (Shani Maharaj is a teacher

who

metes

> >> out sorrows in proportion to our Karmas)

> >>

> >> How we react to the sufferings is based on the soulic

development

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> >> I will continue after getting reactions on the above

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> >> */nalini swamy <nalini2818>/* wrote:

> >>

> >> Hare Rama Krsna

> >> Shree RK ji,

> >> Namaskar.

> >> Are you a lover of Greek (and Roman) tragedies as well??

> >> I loved the tragedies of Seneca above all.. probably

> >> proclivity of Shani Maharaj..

> >> Wow what a world it(was addicted to Greek and Roman

> >> literature since childhood) was which I hated to give up

but

> >> had to after a while but not before taking it up for

study

> >> for my PG.

> >> Coming to Jyotish, is it not very akin to the fear the

Greeks

> >> had for 'hubris' and punishment from Gods??

> >> How and what could one do to dispel this fear of the

planets???

> >> Is there really a remedy for the 'karma; accumulated or

is

> >> the remedy more a strengthening of the' free will' to

weather

> >> the storm, be more prepared for the onslaught, cling for

life

> >> in the rapids, a respite from sinking into the bog..

> >> How about the propensity of some 'charts' for suffering..

> >> again a proclivity of Shani Maharaj?

> >> When I used to live in Chennai, I sometimes wondered at

the

> >> pure laughter of my domestic help which rang out

sometimes in

> >> the neighbour's house where she lived?

> >> If difficulties form the soul boy, did she not have her

fair

> >> share then??

> >> What is it then that gives that 'pure joy' ?It is not

absence

> >> of difficulties then..

> >> it is something that emerges from inside which is

irrelevent

> >> to suffering, difficulties, penury, disease, worry?

> >> Or was that contentment. . no no it could not be for she

was

> >> forever trying to make ends meet, poor mite!!!

> >> Shani Maharaj even if he gives suffering also tempers the

> >> 'steel' and also insulates it so that further shocks do

not

> >> break the core.Who knows he may even make the native a

sucker

> >> for 'tragedies' preparing him/her to 'enjoy' the

tragedies

> >> that life may unfold. I am not being flippant here but

> >> probably better replace 'enjoy' with 'grin and bear'.

> >> I would love to participate in this thread if I may, and

> >> sorry RK ji, for intruding..

> >>

> >> Regards

> >> Nalini

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> rk dash <arkaydash (AT) gmail (DOT)

com>

> >> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com

> >> Friday, 25 January, 2008 4:23:22 AM

> >> Re: [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] remedy

experiences

> >> ---litsol

> >>

> >> Considerable idea, Shree Dheeraj.

> >> We hope we should be able to organise this kind of

discussion

> >> here. The very fact of remedy being a source of ware-

hawking

> >> is sort of preventing as much quality discussion of the

> >> discipline as we should be doing. 'Remdial jyotish' has,

> >> ironically, poked The Eye of Knowledge in its very eyes.

I

> >> mean even non-remedial astrology has contracted the

craze for

> >> happiness-shaping, like lifestyle-shaping. But there

should

> >> be room for some ways out of the whiplashes. Well,

sometimes

> >> karma unrolls that way.

> >>

> >> *A line by Seneca comes to mind: 'Difficulties

strengthen the

> >> mind, as does labour the body.' If we push the Western

> >> classical drift further, we can say: Yes, difficulties

form

> >> the soul.*

> >> **

> >> *But we need respite. Or do we need a good time in the

name

> >> of absence of difficulties? Member Aavesh will add his

> >> reflections to this thread.*

> >>

> >> RK

> >>

> >>

> >> On 24/01/2008, *DHEERAJ KHOSLA* <khosladheeraj@

 

> >> <khosladheer

aj> wrote:

> >>

> >> Namaste Litsol and others,

> >>

> >> Please do a study and research on

> >> remedies of astrological combinations. i mean to say

peoples

> >> experiences about worships . Like curses - where a

planet is

> >> afflicted by two malefics or three malefics . how

many

> >> days ,

> >> how many malas etc.. to get relief.

> >>

> >> How many jataks in actual

> >> life have experiences of betterment after performing

> >> remedies.?

> >>

> >> IS really can we alter our

> >> destiny?

> >> How to do different remedies , depending

> >> on intensity of afflictions rather doing zigzag

mantras ?

> >>

> >> please give it a thought . a teamwork s required .

> >>

> >> thanks,

> >> dheeraj

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> *With Best Wishes,*

> >> **

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