Jewel on crest

[Guest guest]

Lalit and Shree Ramanarayanan:Good samvada between the two of you. We on the sideline try to steal some light you (the latter) have been trying to shed. The bejewelled light of analysis has not yet touched our 'dhee', alas. We have seen enough of hidden clues in this, that and the other thing. We will try this jewel (of a clue) on, too. But does the argala cap fit? If it does, we will wear.

Ramanujacharya goes on to extend 'the karaka in 12th rule' further. He in a later verse talks of 9th lord being in 12th boosting the 9th hse prospects. What he means here is that the native will be fortunate with regard to that relative sigified. If I remember correct, it goes somehting like 'pitru (etc) bhagyamudirayet'

Another point. Jataka Parijata, for example, assigns karakatwa of 10H to Sun, Mercury and and Saturn. (J.P. is a high-hat treatise.) Why should not Sun behave like itself when in 10th? Why like Mercury (alone)? Well, see if this clue helps here. To Sun, one is son, the other 'constant' comapnion. But I am cagey about clue-mongering, where we may not be able to cap the logic neatly.

We will give you a further leg -up if you want to chase the Symantaka Mani. By the way, there is a whole chapter given over to astronomy-astrology in Bhagwad Purana. And lovely clues they are. Nothing corruscating (or tortuous) about them though. Lucid and soft. Isn't that so, Lalit?

Best,RK

[Guest guest]

SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

 

Dear Shri RK Dash ji,

 

Namaste. A bhava may have more than one karaka depending upon the

signification list pertaining to the bhava. Sun for example is the

bilogical father for one and all if we have to speak about bhava

karaka for 9th. If we have to speak about human beings/manushya

jataka then we have to consider the second birth attained through

knowledge bestowed by Guru. Guru therefore becomes the prathama

karaka for 9th in case of human beings and Sun is the secondary karaka.

 

The following are the various karakas for 10th bhava.

1.Buda - the work expression/skill that is exhibited - the prathama

2.Sun -iccha sakthi/will/propelling sakthi - purusha lakshana

3.Sani - kriya sakthi/labor/energy put into the work - input

4.Guru - gyan/jnana sakthi/knowledge required for executing - knowhow

 

Now let us see as to why Buda is to be considered as a prathama karaka

for 10th bhava.

 

In Sri Garga Samhita, Sri Brahma raises a question to the Supreme

personality as, to what pious deed should be done to attain the

exalted position of a Gopi. The Lord replied as follows: -

 

" When the personified vedas offered prayers with eloquent words the

Universal form(sahasra paat) was revealed. The personified vedas were

not apparently satisfied with the revelation and that they placed a

request for having a darshana of the transcendental form which is

full of bliss. Having revealed this wonderful form full of bliss they

were asked as to what more they need. To which they replied that,

that transcendental form was more handsome than millions of Kaamadevas

and their hearts became troubled with desires to have a change in

gender as that of the eternal gopis in Goloka. This wish of the

personified vedas was granted too " .

 

Konas stand for effortlessness. Kendras are the purusha sthanas.

Purusha sthanas stand for efforts. Of all the Kendras 10th is supposed

to be the peak/highest/greatest effort put in. This 10th house stand

for darshana(2nd stand for eyes/seer - 6th stand for

object/vishaya/sight - 10th stand for seen). The highest effort that

is to be put in can only be the effort to have that darshana of that

transcendental form is it not?

 

Here in lies the beauty. The personified vedas having put in the

greatest effort to have that darshana were satisfied only after seeing

the transcendental form. Having seen that form they expressed to have

a change in gender to become a gopi(so as to have the exalted anubhava

as the gopis in goloka). This desire was fulfilled by the Lord. i am

sure you know about Buda and his dual nature. This is the stage where

blessings/effortlessness merges with that of efforts put in. It is the

stage where jiva agrees to the fact that the efforts put in are

nothing(and is ready to drop)before the grace of the Lord. This is

possible only if you have a child like Buda as the prathama karaka for

10th is it not?

 

If need be we can go into the story of Syamantaka jewel further.

 

i shall stop here as the mail is becoming lengthier.

 

Best wishes.

 

May Mother Bless.

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " arkaydash "

<arkaydash wrote:

>

>

> Lalit and Shree Ramanarayanan:

> Good samvada between the two of you. We on the sideline try to steal

> some light you (the latter) have been trying to shed. The bejewelled

> light of analysis has not yet touched our 'dhee', alas. We have seen

> enough of hidden clues in this, that and the other thing. We will try

> this jewel (of a clue) on, too. But does the argala cap fit? If it does,

> we will wear.

>

> Ramanujacharya goes on to extend 'the karaka in 12th rule' further. He

> in a later verse talks of 9th lord being in 12th boosting the 9th hse

> prospects. What he means here is that the native will be fortunate with

> regard to that relative sigified. If I remember correct, it goes

> somehting like 'pitru (etc) bhagyamudirayet'

>

> Another point. Jataka Parijata, for example, assigns karakatwa of 10H to

> Sun, Mercury and and Saturn. (J.P. is a high-hat treatise.) Why should

> not Sun behave like itself when in 10th? Why like Mercury (alone)? Well,

> see if this clue helps here. To Sun, one is son, the other 'constant'

> comapnion. But I am cagey about clue-mongering, where we may not be able

> to cap the logic neatly.

>

> We will give you a further leg -up if you want to chase the Symantaka

> Mani. By the way, there is a whole chapter given over to

> astronomy-astrology in Bhagwad Purana. And lovely clues they are.

> Nothing corruscating (or tortuous) about them though. Lucid and soft.

> Isn't that so, Lalit?

>

> Best,

> RK

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri RamanarayananJi,

 

Namaskaar, definitely it's our good luck that u r with us, how neatly

u described the difference of 4 planet's karkatwa pertaining to 10'th

house.

 

1.Buda - the work expression/skill that is exhibited - the prathama

2.Sun -iccha sakthi/will/propelling sakthi - purusha lakshana

3.Sani - kriya sakthi/labor/energy put into the work - input

4.Guru - gyan/jnana sakthi/knowledge required for executing - knowhow

 

In my knowledge, you are the first person who said 10'th is darshana,

it seems perfect at least in my case.

 

I often get darshans of several forms the Gods, sometimes few revered

saints and gurus also come to me in the astral form, it has become a

daily experience now,I didnt get clue to this interesting part of my

life in my horoscope.

 

In fact, after 5 - 6 months (dont remember exactly) in the morning

when i was doing gayatri mantra after the surya ardhya, a cool breeze

started blowing, as it keeps happening almost daily or alomst in 2 -

3 days, I was not so surpising, but it makes me happy.

 

The important and interesting things is a sweet fragrance also

started getting infused in the same area. I remember this fragerance

now.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha "

<sree88ganesha wrote:

>

>

> SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

>

> Dear Shri RK Dash ji,

>

> Namaste. A bhava may have more than one karaka depending upon the

> signification list pertaining to the bhava. Sun for example is the

> bilogical father for one and all if we have to speak about bhava

> karaka for 9th. If we have to speak about human beings/manushya

> jataka then we have to consider the second birth attained through

> knowledge bestowed by Guru. Guru therefore becomes the prathama

> karaka for 9th in case of human beings and Sun is the secondary

karaka.

>

> The following are the various karakas for 10th bhava.

> 1.Buda - the work expression/skill that is exhibited - the prathama

> 2.Sun -iccha sakthi/will/propelling sakthi - purusha lakshana

> 3.Sani - kriya sakthi/labor/energy put into the work - input

> 4.Guru - gyan/jnana sakthi/knowledge required for executing -

knowhow

>

> Now let us see as to why Buda is to be considered as a prathama

karaka

> for 10th bhava.

>

> In Sri Garga Samhita, Sri Brahma raises a question to the Supreme

> personality as, to what pious deed should be done to attain the

> exalted position of a Gopi. The Lord replied as follows: -

>

> " When the personified vedas offered prayers with eloquent words the

> Universal form(sahasra paat) was revealed. The personified vedas

were

> not apparently satisfied with the revelation and that they placed a

> request for having a darshana of the transcendental form which is

> full of bliss. Having revealed this wonderful form full of bliss

they

> were asked as to what more they need. To which they replied that,

> that transcendental form was more handsome than millions of

Kaamadevas

> and their hearts became troubled with desires to have a change in

> gender as that of the eternal gopis in Goloka. This wish of the

> personified vedas was granted too " .

>

> Konas stand for effortlessness. Kendras are the purusha sthanas.

> Purusha sthanas stand for efforts. Of all the Kendras 10th is

supposed

> to be the peak/highest/greatest effort put in. This 10th house

stand

> for darshana(2nd stand for eyes/seer - 6th stand for

> object/vishaya/sight - 10th stand for seen). The highest effort

that

> is to be put in can only be the effort to have that darshana of that

> transcendental form is it not?

>

> Here in lies the beauty. The personified vedas having put in the

> greatest effort to have that darshana were satisfied only after

seeing

> the transcendental form. Having seen that form they expressed to

have

> a change in gender to become a gopi(so as to have the exalted

anubhava

> as the gopis in goloka). This desire was fulfilled by the Lord. i am

> sure you know about Buda and his dual nature. This is the stage

where

> blessings/effortlessness merges with that of efforts put in. It is

the

> stage where jiva agrees to the fact that the efforts put in are

> nothing(and is ready to drop)before the grace of the Lord. This is

> possible only if you have a child like Buda as the prathama karaka

for

> 10th is it not?

>

> If need be we can go into the story of Syamantaka jewel further.

>

> i shall stop here as the mail is becoming lengthier.

>

> Best wishes.

>

> May Mother Bless.

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " arkaydash "

> <arkaydash@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Lalit and Shree Ramanarayanan:

> > Good samvada between the two of you. We on the sideline try to

steal

> > some light you (the latter) have been trying to shed. The

bejewelled

> > light of analysis has not yet touched our 'dhee', alas. We have

seen

> > enough of hidden clues in this, that and the other thing. We will

try

> > this jewel (of a clue) on, too. But does the argala cap fit? If

it does,

> > we will wear.

> >

> > Ramanujacharya goes on to extend 'the karaka in 12th rule'

further. He

> > in a later verse talks of 9th lord being in 12th boosting the 9th

hse

> > prospects. What he means here is that the native will be

fortunate with

> > regard to that relative sigified. If I remember correct, it goes

> > somehting like 'pitru (etc) bhagyamudirayet'

> >

> > Another point. Jataka Parijata, for example, assigns karakatwa of

10H to

> > Sun, Mercury and and Saturn. (J.P. is a high-hat treatise.) Why

should

> > not Sun behave like itself when in 10th? Why like Mercury

(alone)? Well,

> > see if this clue helps here. To Sun, one is son, the

other 'constant'

> > comapnion. But I am cagey about clue-mongering, where we may not

be able

> > to cap the logic neatly.

> >

> > We will give you a further leg -up if you want to chase the

Symantaka

> > Mani. By the way, there is a whole chapter given over to

> > astronomy-astrology in Bhagwad Purana. And lovely clues they are.

> > Nothing corruscating (or tortuous) about them though. Lucid and

soft.

> > Isn't that so, Lalit?

> >

> > Best,

> > RK

> >

>