Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Dear Chadrashekarji and Pradeepji, Sorry for interrupting this discussion. My thoughts on Hillary's chart (d.o.b:26th October 1947, 8.02 a.m,Chicago,Illinois) I feel that Tula Lagna is suitable in her case,owing to the following reasons: (i)Lord of 7th is placed in the 10th in Digbala pointing to a powerful spouse (ii)In D-10 she has Mars (Lord of the 10th) in yuti with Guru in the 3rd house ruled by Budha which points to her profession as a lawyer (iii)The presence of Shani in the 10th in yuti with Neecha Mangal points to a philandering spouse (iv)She tends to use the term 'values' quite frequently in her speeches Atmakarak Chandra placed in 5th in the spritual Rasi of Kumbha (aspected by Mangal) and Yuti of Guru with Ketu in the 2nd points to the fact that she is really sincere about what she says !! Regards, aavesh Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: Dear Pradeep, I do not have the time, but as the Tula lagna is only 1 and 1/2 degrees distant from Scorpio and as it matches Ms. Hillary's personality more, I would like you to check that. She does not seem Tula person.Chandrashekhar.vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar jiIs there any time available for scorpio lagna.Pls provide.RespectPradeepVedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:>> Dear Pradeep,> > Please also analyze Ms. Hillary's chart for Scorpio rising and see what > you think will happen to her campaign.> > Take care,> Chandrashekhar.> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:> >> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji> >> > Thanks for the reply.Yes it is tough as we are not sure about the> > authenticity.> >> > I feel she is not a powerful,fluent and genuine orator as Obama.> > Her body language as well as rhetoric is more of a trained one as> > compared to natural.Jupiter as 3rd lord in the 2nd is affli cted,but> > jupiters presence in the house of speech may be able to balance.> >> > Interstingly Mars as lord of speech is placed in the> > 10th ,associating the Karaka for mass Saturn -pointing to link> > between occupation/speech.> >> > However as you have righlty said,the degree of strength of these> > arguments is directly proportional to the authenticity of data.> >> > Respect> > Pradeep> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar> > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:> > >> > > ; Dear Pradeep,> > >> > > That is a nice analysis if the chart is right. I think there is> > another> > > chart of Ms Hillary with Gemini and one with Scorpio lagna doing> > rounds> > > of the net. Do think whether she would be a good orator with ketu> > in> > > the 2nd.> > >> > > Take care,> > > Chandrashekhar.> > >> > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Respected members> > > >> > > > Please find the analysis done by me during early 2006.Mesg> > No.10270 -> > > > Jyotish Group List.> > > > The period will be Ve-Sa.Sun may be the Pratyantara dasha running> > > > during November.Sun is in Lagna - debilitated and attaining> > NBRY.From> > > > my analysis,it looks like if God's grace is there Ms.Clinton is> > > > likely to become presdient.> > > >> > > > Regds> > > > Pradeep> > > >> > > > /message/10270> > </message/10270>> > > > </message/10270> > <h ttp:///message/10270>>> > > >> > > > Hillary Clinton - Possibility of Libra> > > >> > > > Dear Respected members> > > >> > > > Thanks for the chart and possible times.I have tried to verify the> > > > chart with events and Libra seems to give satisfactory> > results.Kindly> > > > have a look.> > > >> > > > First of all a general observation (Libra and balance)> > > >> > > > During the 1992 presidential campaign, Hillary Rodham Clinton> > > > observed,"Our lives are a mixture of different roles. Most of us> > are> > > > doing the best we can to find whatever the right balance is . . .> > For> > > > me, that balance is family, work, and service."> > > > -------------------------> > > > ----------\> > > > -------------------------> > > > ----------\> > > > ---------> > > > 1)First attraction to politics(1964,Supporting Republican> > senator,at> > > > the age of 16).Sa/Mo - Yogakaraka Shani and 10th lord Moon in> > > > Parivartana.> > > >> > > > 2)President of Wellesley College Chapter(1965).Sa/Ma> > > >> > > > 3)Marriage(1975/Oct).Me-Ve.> > > > Lagna as well as mercury are having navamsha in Gem ini.Mercury is> > > > aspecting seventh house,seventh lord is aspecting mercury.These> > make> > > > mercury a possible candidate for marriage.> > > >> > > > Venus is Lagna lord associating Lagna navamsha lord.Venus is> > aspecting> > > > 7th house, apart from having navamsha in the 7th from lagna,> > making it> > > > a candidate for marriage.(Kindly see the usage of navamsha as> > found in> > > > classics)> > > >> > > > 4)First Lady of Arkansas (1978).Me/Su> > > > Mercury has brought her many luck.Mercury is ninth lord forming> > > > Rajayoga in Lagna.Sun is 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga.Moreover> > > > Lagna is having Bhagya navamsha.9th lord is aslo having bhahya> > > > navamsha.Sun the antar-dasha,is the 11th lord attaining> > Neechabhanga.> > > >> > > > 5)1980,Child birth.Me-Mo as per Chandrahari ayanamsha.Moon is in> > the> > > > fifth.(Mars is the antar dasha as per Lahiri)> > > >> > > > 6)Senate election - Ve/Mo> > > >> > > > If she is running for the 2008 november predidential,the period> > will> > > > be VE-SA. Saturn yogakaraka is giving neechabhanga to 7th lord> > mars> > > > placed in 10th and undergoing parivartana with 10th lord> > moon .Good> > > > period.> > > >> > > > Thanks> > > > Pradeep> > > >> > > >> > > & g t; >> >> You are managing the Vedic Astrologyandhealing group through Grouply.You to individual emails for this group. | Update your Subscription settings6 messages in this conversation, including this one | Add a commentView this message on Grouply so you can rate, tag, bookmark, and see what others think about it. Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. Y! Messenger Group get-together Host a free online conference on IM. Special K ChallengeJoin others who are losing pounds. With Best Wishes, aavesh Bring your gang together - do your thing. Start your group. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Dear Aavesh, She does not have the physical features and mannerism of Tula people. With Sn aspecting the 7th and also Saturn devoid of any help from Jupiter, would the marriage last is something that needs to be considered. Then there is the question of absence of malefics in Trishadayas vis-vis the drive she possesses to achieve her goals. With Scorpio lagna Venus the 7th lord going to the 12th in own rasi would also be capable of giving a powerful spouse and Saturn in the 9th could also indicate a lawyer. Rahu going to the 7th would more likely to indicate the Lewinsky incident and many likewise ones from the spouse. Of course this is my personal opinion. We could get some indications from whether she wins the democratic nomination or not. Chandrashekhar. aavesh t wrote: Dear Chadrashekarji and Pradeepji, Sorry for interrupting this discussion. My thoughts on Hillary's chart (d.o.b:26th October 1947, 8.02 a.m,Chicago,Illinois) I feel that Tula Lagna is suitable in her case,owing to the following reasons: (i)Lord of 7th is placed in the 10th in Digbala pointing to a powerful spouse (ii)In D-10 she has Mars (Lord of the 10th) in yuti with Guru in the 3rd house ruled by Budha which points to her profession as a lawyer (iii)The presence of Shani in the 10th in yuti with Neecha Mangal points to a philandering spouse (iv)She tends to use the term 'values' quite frequently in her speeches Atmakarak Chandra placed in 5th in the spritual Rasi of Kumbha (aspected by Mangal) and Yuti of Guru with Ketu in the 2nd points to the fact that she is really sincere about what she says !! Regards, aavesh Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar > wrote: Dear Pradeep, I do not have the time, but as the Tula lagna is only 1 and 1/2 degrees distant from Scorpio and as it matches Ms. Hillary's personality more, I would like you to check that. She does not seem Tula person. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar ji Is there any time available for scorpio lagna.Pls provide. Respect Pradeep Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > Please also analyze Ms. Hillary's chart for Scorpio rising and see what > you think will happen to her campaign. > > Take care, > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > Thanks for the reply.Yes it is tough as we are not sure about the > > authenticity. > > > > I feel she is not a powerful,fluent and genuine orator as Obama. > > Her body language as well as rhetoric is more of a trained one as > > compared to natural.Jupiter as 3rd lord in the 2nd is affli cted,but > > jupiters presence in the house of speech may be able to balance. > > > > Interstingly Mars as lord of speech is placed in the > > 10th ,associating the Karaka for mass Saturn -pointing to link > > between occupation/speech. > > > > However as you have righlty said,the degree of strength of these > > arguments is directly proportional to the authenticity of data. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > ; Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > That is a nice analysis if the chart is right. I think there is > > another > > > chart of Ms Hillary with Gemini and one with Scorpio lagna doing > > rounds > > > of the net. Do think whether she would be a good orator with ketu > > in > > > the 2nd. > > > > > > Take care, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Respected members > > > > > > > > Please find the analysis done by me during early 2006.Mesg > > No.10270 - > > > > Jyotish Group List. > > > > The period will be Ve-Sa.Sun may be the Pratyantara dasha running > > > > during November.Sun is in Lagna - debilitated and attaining > > NBRY.From > > > > my analysis,it looks like if God's grace is there Ms.Clinton is > > > > likely to become presdient. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > /message/10270 > > </message/10270> > > > > </message/10270 > > <h ttp:///message/10270>> > > > > > > > > Hillary Clinton - Possibility of Libra > > > > > > > > Dear Respected members > > > > > > > > Thanks for the chart and possible times.I have tried to verify the > > > > chart with events and Libra seems to give satisfactory > > results.Kindly > > > > have a look. > > > > > > > > First of all a general observation (Libra and balance) > > > > > > > > During the 1992 presidential campaign, Hillary Rodham Clinton > > > > observed,"Our lives are a mixture of different roles. Most of us > > are > > > > doing the best we can to find whatever the right balance is . . . > > For > > > > me, that balance is family, work, and service." > > > > ------------------------- > > > > ----------\ > > > > ------------------------- > > > > ----------\ > > > > --------- > > > > 1)First attraction to politics(1964,Supporting Republican > > senator,at > > > > the age of 16).Sa/Mo - Yogakaraka Shani and 10th lord Moon in > > > > Parivartana. > > > > > > > > 2)President of Wellesley College Chapter(1965).Sa/Ma > > > > > > > > 3)Marriage(1975/Oct).Me-Ve. > > > > Lagna as well as mercury are having navamsha in Gem ini.Mercury is > > > > aspecting seventh house,seventh lord is aspecting mercury.These > > make > > > > mercury a possible candidate for marriage. > > > > > > > > Venus is Lagna lord associating Lagna navamsha lord.Venus is > > aspecting > > > > 7th house, apart from having navamsha in the 7th from lagna, > > making it > > > > a candidate for marriage.(Kindly see the usage of navamsha as > > found in > > > > classics) > > > > > > > > 4)First Lady of Arkansas (1978).Me/Su > > > > Mercury has brought her many luck.Mercury is ninth lord forming > > > > Rajayoga in Lagna.Sun is 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga.Moreover > > > > Lagna is having Bhagya navamsha.9th lord is aslo having bhahya > > > > navamsha.Sun the antar-dasha,is the 11th lord attaining > > Neechabhanga. > > > > > > > > 5)1980,Child birth.Me-Mo as per Chandrahari ayanamsha.Moon is in > > the > > > > fifth.(Mars is the antar dasha as per Lahiri) > > > > > > > > 6)Senate election - Ve/Mo > > > > > > > > If she is running for the 2008 november predidential,the period > > will > > > > be VE-SA. Saturn yogakaraka is giving neechabhanga to 7th lord > > mars > > > > placed in 10th and undergoing parivartana with 10th lord > > moon .Good > > > > period. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > & g t; > > > > You are managing the Vedic Astrologyandhealing group through Grouply. You to individual emails for this group. | Update your Subscription settings 6 messages in this conversation, including this one | Add a comment View this message on Grouply so you can rate, tag, bookmark, and see what others think about it. Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. Y! Messenger Group get-together Host a free online conference on IM. Special K Challenge Join others who are losing pounds. With Best Wishes, aavesh Bring your gang together - do your thing. Start your group. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Dear Chandrashekhar ji and Shri Aavesh Really sorry for the delayed reply. There are some good arguments and reasons supporting Scorpio lagna in Chandrashekhar jis mails. Regarding Physical appearance etc Chandrashekhar ji is having more experience. Shri Aavesh too has given some points supporting Tula Lagna. But i am not sure if we have to place Rahu in the 7th to justify Lewisnsky incident.7th lord Mars ,debilitated and joining saturn may be sufficient enough is my observation. Ofcourse Rajayoga is another story.From my limited experience ,i have observed that Rajayogas promised by planets function simulateneously with manifestation of natural qiualities.Thus Mars + Saturn association may explain the shame which Hilary had to face,on an international scale,because of spouse is my view.I can be wrong here. However as we do not have the correct time,our views can very well be wrong. Respect Pradeep Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Aavesh, > > She does not have the physical features and mannerism of Tula people. > With Sn aspecting the 7th and also Saturn devoid of any help from > Jupiter, would the marriage last is something that needs to be > considered. Then there is the question of absence of malefics in > Trishadayas vis-vis the drive she possesses to achieve her goals. With > Scorpio lagna Venus the 7th lord going to the 12th in own rasi would > also be capable of giving a powerful spouse and Saturn in the 9th could > also indicate a lawyer. Rahu going to the 7th would more likely to > indicate the Lewinsky incident and many likewise ones from the spouse. > > Of course this is my personal opinion. We could get some indications > from whether she wins the democratic nomination or not. > > Chandrashekhar. > > aavesh t wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chadrashekarji and Pradeepji, > > > > Sorry for interrupting this discussion. > > > > My thoughts on Hillary's chart (d.o.b:26th October 1947, > > 8.02 a.m,Chicago,Illinois) > > > > I feel that Tula Lagna is suitable in her case,owing to the > > following reasons: > > > > (i)Lord of 7th is placed in the 10th in Digbala pointing to a > > powerful spouse > > > > (ii)In D-10 she has Mars (Lord of the 10th) in yuti with Guru in > > the 3rd house ruled by Budha which points to her profession as a > > lawyer > > > > (iii)The presence of Shani in the 10th in yuti with Neecha Mangal > > points to a philandering spouse > > > > (iv)She tends to use the term 'values' quite frequently in her > > speeches > > > > Atmakarak Chandra placed in 5th in the spritual Rasi of Kumbha > > (aspected by Mangal) and Yuti of Guru with Ketu in the 2nd points > > to the fact that she is really sincere about what she says !! > > > > Regards, > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar/* wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > I do not have the time, but as the Tula lagna is only 1 and > > 1/2 degrees distant from Scorpio and as it matches Ms. > > Hillary's personality more, I would like you to check that. > > She does not seem Tula person. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > >> Dear Chandrashekhar ji > >> > >> Is there any time available for scorpio lagna.Pls provide. > >> > >> Respect > >> Pradeep > >> Vedic Astrologyandhealing > >> <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > >> Chandrashekhar > >> <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > >> > > >> > Dear Pradeep, > >> > > >> > Please also analyze Ms. Hillary's chart for Scorpio rising > >> and see > >> what > >> > you think will happen to her campaign. > >> > > >> > Take care, > >> > Chandrashekhar. > >> > > >> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > >> > > > >> > > Thanks for the reply.Yes it is tough as we are not sure > >> about the > >> > > authenticity. > >> > > > >> > > I feel she is not a powerful,fluent and genuine orator as > >> Obama. > >> > > Her body language as well as rhetoric is more of a > >> trained one as > >> > > compared to natural.Jupiter as 3rd lord in the 2nd is > >> affli cted,but > >> > > jupiters presence in the house of speech may be able to > >> balance. > >> > > > >> > > Interstingly Mars as lord of speech is placed in the > >> > > 10th ,associating the Karaka for mass Saturn - pointing to > >> link > >> > > between occupation/speech. > >> > > > >> > > However as you have righlty said,the degree of strength > >> of these > >> > > arguments is directly proportional to the authenticity of > >> data. > >> > > > >> > > Respect > >> > > Pradeep > >> > > > >> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > >> <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > >> > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > >> Chandrashekhar > >> > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > ; Dear Pradeep, > >> > > > > >> > > > That is a nice analysis if the chart is right. I think > >> there is > >> > > another > >> > > > chart of Ms Hillary with Gemini and one with Scorpio > >> lagna doing > >> > > rounds > >> > > > of the net. Do think whether she would be a good orator > >> with > >> ketu > >> > > in > >> > > > the 2nd. > >> > > > > >> > > > Take care, > >> > > > Chandrashekhar. > >> > > > > >> > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Dear Respected members > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Please find the analysis done by me during early > >> 2006.Mesg > >> > > No.10270 - > >> > > > > Jyotish Group List. > >> > > > > The period will be Ve-Sa.Sun may be the Pratyantara > >> dasha > >> running > >> > > > > during November.Sun is in Lagna - debilitated and > >> attaining > >> > > NBRY.From > >> > > > > my analysis,it looks like if God's grace is there > >> Ms.Clinton > >> is > >> > > > > likely to become presdient. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Regds > >> > > > > Pradeep > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> /message/10270 > >> </message/10270> > >> > > </message/10270 > >> </message/10270>> > >> > > > > > >> </message/10270 > >> </message/10270> > >> > > <h > >> ttp:///message/10270 > >> </message/10270>>> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Hillary Clinton - Possibility of Libra > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Dear Respected members > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks for the chart and possible times.I have tried to > >> verify the > >> > > > > chart with events and Libra seems to give satisfactory > >> > > results.Kindly > >> > > > > have a look. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > First of all a general observation (Libra and balance) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > During the 1992 presidential campaign, Hillary Rodham > >> Clinton > >> > > > > observed, " Our lives are a mixture of different roles. > >> Most of > >> us > >> > > are > >> > > > > doing the best we can to find whatever the right balance > >> is . . . > >> > > For > >> > > > > me, that balance is family, work, and service. " > >> > > > > > >> ------------------------ - > >> > > > > ----------\ > >> > > > > > >> ------------------------ - > >> > > > > ----------\ > >> > > > > --------- > >> > > > > 1)First attraction to politics(1964,Supporting Republican > >> > > senator,at > >> > > > > the age of 16).Sa/Mo - Yogakaraka Shani and 10th lord > >> Moon in > >> > > > > Parivartana. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 2)President of Wellesley College Chapter (1965).Sa/Ma > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 3)Marriage(1975/Oct).Me-Ve. > >> > > > > Lagna as well as mercury are having navamsha in > >> Gem ini.Mercury is > >> > > > > aspecting seventh house,seventh lord is aspecting > >> mercury.These > >> > > make > >> > > > > mercury a possible candidate for marriage. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Venus is Lagna lord associating Lagna navamsha > >> lord.Venus is > >> > > aspecting > >> > > > > 7th house, apart from having navamsha in the 7th from > >> lagna, > >> > > making it > >> > > > > a candidate for marriage.(Kindly see the usage of > >> navamsha as > >> > > found in > >> > > > > classics) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 4)First Lady of Arkansas (1978).Me/Su > >> > > > > Mercury has brought her many luck.Mercury is ninth lord > >> forming > >> > > > > Rajayoga in Lagna.Sun is 11th lord attaining > >> Neechabhanga.Moreover > >> > > > > Lagna is having Bhagya navamsha.9th lord is aslo > >> having bhahya > >> > > > > navamsha.Sun the antar-dasha,is the 11th lord attaining > >> > > Neechabhanga. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 5)1980,Child birth.Me-Mo as per Chandrahari > >> ayanamsha.Moon is > >> in > >> > > the > >> > > > > fifth.(Mars is the antar dasha as per Lahiri) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 6)Senate election - Ve/Mo > >> > > > > > >> > > > > If she is running for the 2008 november predidential,the > >> period > >> > > will > >> > > > > be VE-SA. Saturn yogakaraka is giving neechabhanga to > >> 7th lord > >> > > mars > >> > > > > placed in 10th and undergoing parivartana with 10th lord > >> > > moon .Good > >> > > > > period. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks > >> > > > > Pradeep > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> & g t; > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > Grouply Groups <http://www.grouply.com/> > > You are managing the Vedic Astrologyandhealing group through > > Grouply. > > You to individual emails for this group. | Update > > your Subscription settings > > <http://www.grouply.com/settings.subscriptions.php> > > 6 messages in this conversation > > <http://www.grouply.com/ygroup.php/Vedic Astrologyandhealing/3315#3356> , > > including this one | Add a comment > > <http://www.grouply.com/ygroup.php/Vedic Astrologyandhealing/3315#AddCo mment> > > View this message on Grouply > > <http://www.grouply.com/ygroup.php/Vedic Astrologyandhealing/3356> > > so you can rate > > <http://www.grouply.com/ygroup.php/Vedic Astrologyandhealing/3356>, > > tag > > <http://www.grouply.com/bookmark.php/Vedic Astrologyandhealing/3356>, > > bookmark > > <http://www.gr% 20ouply.com/bookmark.php/Vedic Astrologyandhealing/3356>, > > and see what others think about it. > > Finance > > It's Now Personal > > <http://us.ard./SIG=13odej6l6/M=493064.12016257.12445664.8674 578/D=groups/S=1705082690:NC/Y=/EXP=1203022655/L=/B=3LW5EkLaX.g- /J=1203015455876772/A=4507179/R=0/SIG=12de4rskk/*http://us.rd..co m/evt=50284/*http://finance./personal-finance> > > Guides, news, > > advice & more. > > Y! 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