Chart Tenor in Esoteric Reading (RKDa and Lalit)

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Dear Lalit and RKDa,

 

I will continue my posting on Lalit's chart in a couple of days

(will also address Lalit's query below)

 

Pls bear with me till then

 

Regards,

 

aavesh

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> Dear Elders,

>

> Thanx for this discussion which will guide me further in taking

right

> steps. I wish to understand the point 1 stated by Aavwsh Sir -

>

> Rahu as AK is placed in the 11th in Vargottama.The placement of

Rahu

> in the Nakshatra of Surya is significant.

>

> What's the significance, pls. let me know.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " arkaydash "

> <arkaydash@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Aavesh, We will have to pick the pieces only from a vantage

> point

> > where the pieces can't be a red herring. What I mean is, once

the

> tenor

> > of a chart is framed by certain houses (and certain planets under

> > predominant colouration due to sign qualities as well as

lordship),

> the

> > planets and even houses cease to behave contrary. Take Rahu in

> Lalit's

> > chart. We have to see carefully what he actually is in this

chart.

> One,

> > AM, two Saturn's sign, three 10th hse of Natural zodiac, and the

> > Nakshatra he is in, and his position in the relevant harmonic

> chart --

> > one more harmonic chart apart from the Navamsa. Or take Venus.

> What's so

> > unspiritual about him. Yes, to an extent his lordship. But you

have

> his

> > placement in the 1st of the Moksha trikona, ie 4th hse. He is in

> Merc's

> > sign. Maybe he (Ve) gets eroticised because the sign is Twin and

> the 3rd

> > of N. Zodiac, the 1st of kama trikona. Note he is under Ju's

gaze.

> Which

> > brings me to the 12th sign of the zodiac which Ju brings AS

LAGNA

> LORD

> > to bear on all that he surveys. Is that all undercut or aided by

> > Nakshatra positions of the some of these planets? Into that I

have

> not

> > gone yet. Well, we have to balance out the indications, once

we

> have

> > a larger picture in terms of chart tenor. RK Members are

> requested

> > to read down for the prequel to this post Dear RKDa, Nice to

get

> > your feedback on my mail. I agree with you in that esoteric

> Jyotish is

> > something where there are grey areas which could lead to certain

> > ambiguities in interpretation Thanks for focussing my

attention

> on the

> > 9th house as the 'station' in case of Lalit's Kundli Some

> points:

> > (i)Rahu as AK is placed in the 11th in Vargottama.The placement

of

> Rahu

> > in the Nakshatra of Surya is significant (ii)Rahu in the sign

of

> Shani

> > Maharaj aspecting Shani Maharaj in the earthy Rasi of Vrishaba

> > contributes heavily to materialism (in an otherwise Sattvic

chart)

> > (iii)The fact that both Shani Maharaj and Rahu aspect the 5th

house

> > where Budha is placed adds to the material aspect of the chart

> (iv)The

> > Hamsa yoga which he has got in his chart will help him

> materialistically

> > (the spiritual benifits will be toned down due to aspect of

Shukra

> on

> > Guru and Shani Maharaj on Guru in D-9 chart) (v)Factor in

the

> yuti

> > of Surya and Mangal in the 6th to the above and you get an

> individual

> > who is extremely goal oriented which is good in the present day

> world

> > The 9th house in his chart is the locus standi as you pointed

out.

> > Chandra in 9th aspected by Shani Maharaj and Ketu gives rise to

> genuine

> > moments of introspection.The aspect of Mangal is a dampner

towards

> > genuine genuflection as this gives him an attitude of 'WHEN IN

> TROUBLE

> > SMASH THROUGH THE OPPOSITION' Pls understand that I am not

being

> > negative about Lalit's chart (Only pointing out some factors

which

> > deserve attention) I will continue after getting your

responses

> on the

> > above Regards, aavesh

> >

> > rk dash <arkaydash@ <arkaydash@> > wrote: Dear

> > Aavesh, Chart reading away from events and material rise and

fall

> (or

> > non-rise) requires a lot of work. The individual pieces in such

a

> jigsaw

> > are necessary. And your spoting the pieces are okay as far I know

> > astrology. Yet since esoteric astrology requires going beyond

the

> known

> > patterns (even yogas of this nature are too few to help us in

such a

> > reading), we have to also understand the esoteric dynamics in

human

> life

> > and find their corollaries in the symbolisms of astrology. All

this

> > requires going beyond the cut and dried approach to an extent.

Take

> the

> > combined aspect of Mars and Ketu on moon. You throw in Saturn.

And

> you

> > get a human being who is unlikely to meet mental comfort in the

> usual

> > course of living. He will be impelled to change track. It is the

> station

> > that decides. Change which way. You haven't noted my puting the

> finger

> > on the 9th hse as the station. And 10th hse. Rahu's aspect on

> Saturn has

> > become the red herring for you. The same Rahu can collaborate in

> Ketu's

> > karakatwas. Correct me. RK

> >

> > On 23/02/2008, aavesh t <aavesh_s@

> > <aavesh_s@> > wrote: Continuing: Shani Maharaj

> > (AK) in the 3rd aspected by Rahu also poses a great challenge

(This

> will

> > make him overly ambitious and agressive vis-a-vis career and

> power).Ketu

> > aspecting Rasi and Lagna will pull him in the other

> direction !! A

> > special point let me leave here. We tend to see Saturn touch on

> Moon as

> > a liability. Liability maybe at a lower plane, but asset at a

higher

> > plane. The world doesn't easily understand their penetration,

their

> > power (yes, you may say their suffering). I mean those who have

> > Moon-Saturn linkages. Where they are driven! O where! And what

> drives

> > them? O what! Shani Maharaj aspecting Rasi is really a

matter of

> > concern.There is a lot of anger in him resulting from the

combined

> > aspects of Mangal and Ketu on Rasi (Shani Maharaj as 12th lord

> aspecting

> > the 9th will bring a sense of detachment over a period of

time)

> The

> > process is going to be very painful (to put it mildly).Vargotamma

> > positioning of the nodes is indicative of the fact that Lalit is

> cut out

> > for Greatness This greatness will come at the cost of his

> personal

> > happiness (4th Lord with Ketu in the 5th is a real dampner as

far

> as

> > 'Mansik Shanti' is concerned) This is the case with all great

> souls :

> > They have to carry the burden of the lesser souls (who will not

give

> > them the time of the day after they derieve their material

benifits

> from

> > this great personality) Lalit is too good to be true in the

> present

> > times Regards, aavesh

> >

>