Shani Maharaj in the 9th house

March 2, 2008

Dear Aavesh,

I presume you are using LMT as is right for old birth dates. You see

Saturn conjunct Ketu in the 9th for J P Morgan and as such it is likely

that he may not necessarily be bound y ethics. The 3rd bhava also has

Papagrahas and this shows someone who will be ruthless in achieving his

goals. So Saturn in the 9th here is not likely to give him any

spiritual leanings. This Saturn is certainly not unaspected nor is he

free of afflictions.

Chandrashekhar.

aavesh t wrote:

Dear Lalit,Chandrashekarji

and Group,

Shani Maharaj in the 9th is

really an enigma in my opinion.It does not always lead to sprituality !!

Please have a look at the

chart of JP Morgan Sr which illustrates

this point

His birth details:

D.o.b: 17th

April 1837

Time: 03:53:00

Place:Hartford

(Connecticut)

All members are requested to

participate in this discussion which will help in unravelling this

enigma

Regards,

aavesh

aavesh t <aavesh_s (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Sun, 2 Mar 2008

01:32:29 +0000 (GMT)

aavesh t <aavesh_s (AT) (DOT) co.in>

Shani Maharaj in the 9th house

vedic astrology <Vedic Astrologyandhealing >

Dear Lalit and

Chandrashekarji,

I am adding a few points

to Lalit's query:

(i) Shani Maharaj in 9th

when placed in Uccha Rasi gives rise to a native of great spiritual

caliber (Ramakrishna Paramahamsha' s chart is a good example of this)

(ii)Shani Maharaj in 9th

in Neecha Rasi (Simha Lagna) is a very difficult position from the

point of view of worldly progress.

The native has to struggle

against great odds for success in the material sphere.This will

continue uptil the age of 38 years.

In case the chart has got

a strongly placed Guru and Budha then life will be simpler for the

native

As Chandrashekarji rightly

pointed out ,Shani Maharaj in the 9th unaspected by any Graha leads to

Pravrajya yoga (This is particularly true if Shani Maharaj is also

aspecting the natal Moon in the chart)

Regards,

aavesh

Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar >

wrote:

Dear Lalit,

In case of Makara Lagna, 9th bhava is Virgo rasi and Saturn does not

get exalted there. If you are thinking about Kumbha lagna then of

course Saturn gets exalted in its 9th bhava which happens to be Libra.

In that case first it is good to remember that when a Malefic is lord

of a kendra ( which Lagna is) it does not give malefic results or

rather its malfeasance is toned down in its dasha. As to your question:

1) Lagna lord being lord of a Kendra occupying a Trikona causes raj

yoga. Being lagna and 12th lord it could also indicate that the jataka

creates his own bhagya (is extremely hardworking perhaps) and there

could be some problems to the father.

2) Saturn though malefic is least harmful when it is strong and here it

is in exaltation and occupying a Trine, so it is extremely powerful and

will cause the least of problems. Its aspect on the 3rd will also make

the person quite valorous, and though its aspect on the 6th could give

some breathing troubles, it will also indicate that the Jataka will

overcome his enemies.

Additionally it is good to remember that Saturn in the 9th, if

unaspected could also lead to Pravrajya yoga.

Take care,

Chandrashekhar.

litsol wrote:

Dear Sir,

I wanted to understand the saturn's exaltation in the 9'th house for

the Makara Lagna.

How saturn will behave in this case, will it bring pravajya

instincts, I want to how we can understand this case there are 2

things - 1. lagna lord is placed in 9'th and exalted

2. this is a malific.

pls. help me to grasp the logic, same is, if saturn is debilated in

9'th house then what will happe to native's bhagya and dharma.

regards,

Lalit.

Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> Thank you for understanding me. There are two dimensions to the

stories.

> If they are given to illustrate some astrological or astronomical

point,

> there is no harm in them. The problem only arises when they

represent

> only flights of imagination,more than illustrating some

principle.

>

> As to Saturn getting exalted in natural seat of Guru. That is

> Sagittarius. It does not get either exalted or debilitated there.

It is

> exalted in Libra and gets debilitated in Aries. But Saturn in the

> natural seat of Guru in a chart that is the 9th bhava and

unaspected by

> any planet do es indicate Pravrajya yoga, if memory serves me

right.

>

> Take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> litsol wrote:

> >

> > Resp Chandrashekhar Ji,

> >

> > Thanx for giving the idea of some astronomical resaons behind

the

> > theory of exlatation and debilitation, I could also never

accept

the

> > stories which are cooked up in the internet version of

astrology

like

> > the one u urself stated - "saying that a king gets strong in

> > house of the army general to explain Sun's getting exaltation

in

> > Aries to every other flight of imagination"

> >

> > These stories looks baseless.

> >

> > Pls. let us know more and also tell what is the signification

of

> > Saturn's exlatation/debilitation in 9'th house, on the

Guru's

na tural

> > seat.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramanarayanan,

> > >

> > > You have asked a question that is very relevant and I do

not

know

> > why

> > > asking of the question should trouble anyone. I am sure

you

have a

> > lot

> > > of answers that give umpteen explanation of why a graha

gets

> > exalted on

> > > some rasi or other. These vary from saying t hat a king

gets

strong

> > in

> > > house of the army general to explain Sun's getting

exaltation in

> > Aries

> > > to every other flight of imagination. Only there is no

uniformity

> > of

> > > application of the theories across planets.

> > >

> > > My personal opinion is that the grahas are at their

brightest

when

> > in

> > > those rasis where they are said to be exalted and

dullest in the

> > rasis

> > > where they are said to be debilitated. I know that I

invited

being

> > > ridiculed for this opinion, but let me assure you that I

am not

> > alone in

> > > this view and that there are astronomical reasons for

the

aspects

> > of

> > > planets too, though they are explained allegorically.

> > ; >

> > > Take care,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > sree88ganesha wrote:

> > > >

> > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste. Thank your for your response. i am happy

to note your

> > deep

> > > > interest in this Holy Subject.

> > > >

> > > > Sani is ready to give the anubhava of all the

sins/papa karmas

> > done by

> > > > the jiva. Sani is the ripener. Sani rules the kali

rasi

Makara.

> > > >

> > > > i shall go into this subject later as i am on a

tight work

> > schedule

> > > > during this week.

> > & gt; >

> > > > However understanding Koorma avatar can help a lot

in

> > understanding

> > > > the role of Sani.

> > > >

> > > > Meanwhile the group members and gurus of the group

may please

> > consider

> > > > explaining as to why a graha gets exalted in one

rasi and

> > debilitated

> > > > in other rasi.

> > > >

> > > > i am sorry if i had caused trouble in asking this.

> > > >

> > > > i shall join later.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes.

> > > >

> > > > May Mother Bless.

> > > >

> > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> > > > p.s.ramanarayanan.

> > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>

> > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

"litsol"

> > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Resp Sri P.S. RamanarayananJi,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanx for showering ur knowedge on us, I w'd

request you to

> > elaboate

> > > > > this mantra of u -

> > > > >

> > > > > "Sani has the capacity to debilitate Guru".

> > > > >

> > > > > Pls. el aborate it sothat we can understand

the reasoning

behind

> > > > > Guru's debilitation in capricorn.

> > > > >

> > > > > Recently people have started taking Saturn as

a spiritual

> > planet, i

> > > > > was also thinking like others but now i think,

saturn is

more a

> > > > > planet that inspires people to become cunning

and cheat

sothat

> > they

> > > > > can get punishments in future, is that a

reason why Guru

gets

> > > > > debilitated in saturn's sign.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also tell us pls, what impact there will be

for a person

whose

> > saturn

> > > > > is exalted/debilitated in 9'th house of his

chart, i mean in

> > the seat

> > > > > of the Guru, a nd pls. also let us know that

what if Shasha

Yoga

> > is

> > > > > formed in one's lagna, how the person will be.

> > > > >

> > > > > It's a good opportunity to learn some key

things from u.

> > > > >

> > > > > on the other part of time etc... i w'd say a

sadhaka knows

> > there is

> > > > > no importance of time, time dosnt exist for

him.

> > > > >

> > > > > I know it.. but i enjoy being a part of time

that gets

> > elapsed ....

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>

> > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%

> > 40>, "sree88ganesha"

> > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Shri Chandrashekhar ji & Shri

Lalit Mishra ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive the

responses from you in

this

> > > > > regard.

> > > > & gt; > i also appreciate the efforts taken

to translate ambaram

as

> > apparel

> > > > > > and chit as chiti sakthi. May i write a

few lines!!!?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Swarna vilva, Ajapa Nrtya, dynamic

stillness(Nataraja),the

> > > > > > sabha/assembly, presence of Lord

Govindaraja in lying

posture,

> > > > > > presence of Shri Aanjaneya in standing

posture, presence

of

> > Shri

> > > > > > Yogeswar Patanjali and Shri Vyaghrapaadar,the

dance by

> > MaaKaali, the

> > > > > > temple structure, the poojaris/pandits/brahmanas

of the

> > temple are

> > > > > all

> > > > > > some of the various special features

among others in the

> > Chidambaram

> > > > > > Temple. An explanation for these special

features will

call

> > for an

> > > > > > effort to write a book.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The chiti sakthi brings forth the role of

Mother. Siva the

> > epitome

> > > > > of

> > > > > > stillness/existence and awareness

indicates the Sat and

Chit

> > while

> > > > > > Mother the epitome of awareness and

energy indicates the

Chit

> > and

> > > > > > Bliss. This wonderful combination of

SivaSakthi Ayikya

> > > > > > Swaroopa/Sat-chit-aananda swaroopa,

results in the cosmic

> > dance

> > > > > which

> > > > > > gives the dual effect of stillness and

dynamism

separately and

> > > > & gt; > together too!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The dwadasa divisions of the zodiac is

directly linked to

this

> > > > > cosmic

> > > > > > dance. The sabha or assembly gives hint

about the space

> > divisions.

> > > > > > This indirectly gives hints about the

role of Guru

(aakasha).

> > If we

> > > > > > stop with the explanation of 'chiti

sakthi' we may be in a

> > position

> > > > > to

> > > > > > undertstand the space divisions and

'chidambaram'. We

need to

> > move

> > > > > > further in order to understand the

rahasya portion which

has

> > the

> > > > > > intention of explaining the concepts of

time and time

> > division s.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The 5 vertical lines Swarna Vilva which

is kept behind the

> > screens

> > > > > and

> > > > > > claimed as rahasya indicate the

'panchanga' or the 5

limbs of

> > time.

> > > > > > Time is invisible and eternal and is

directly linked to

the

> > > > > > breath/swara. The other meaning of

tri-dala vilva(other

than

> > the one

> > > > > > given in the previous mail) is the

tri-kala(past, present

and

> > > > > future -

> > > > > > identified as 9,1 and 5 in the space

divisions).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How do we understand Nataraja as

SivaSakthi Ayikya

swaroopa?

> > How do

> > > > > we

> > > > > > understand the principles of dynamic

stillness? Here in

comes

> > the

> > > > > > importance of the quietude of 'chit'. In

order to

understand

> > the

> > > > > space

> > > > > > divisions we need the co-operation of the

energy of 'chit'

> > and the

> > > > > > blessings of Guru. From the

aakasha/ashareera(beyond the

> > limitations

> > > > > > of body)the help is extended through

'diksha'(Guru

mantra).

> > This

> > > > > > mantra of the Guru has the highest

potency to trace space

> > within the

> > > > > > realm of mind/chit. This means acceptance

of Guru and

> > extending

> > > > > > reverence is called for here. Immense

faith on the Guru

and

> > clear

> > > > > > conviction brings forth the required

platform in the

manomaya

> > kosha

> > > > > > for the breath to transcend. This means

the manosarovar

will

> > now

> > > > > > contain the flowers of awareness and

reverence. Now the

> > breeze flows

> > > > > > across. Breathing/the existential kriya

(chiti in action)

gains

> > > > > enough

> > > > > > motivation to move ahead. The place where

the

transcendence

> > takes

> > > > > > place is where the dance called as

'ajapa' is born.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why should this ajapa dance be given so

much importance?

It is

> > > > > because

> > > > > > only here we can understand the concept

of space and space

> > > > > divisions.

> > > > > > In other words this 'ajapa' is the

indicator or mark for

us to

> > > > > > understand the activated 'chiti sakthi'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As already said the Swarna vilva speaks

about the concept

of

> > time

> > > > > and

> > > > > > time divisions which are collectively

called

as 'panchanga'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Guru represents the space divisions while

Sani represents

the

> > time

> > > > > > divisions. The time taken for both these

planets to come

back

> > to

> > > > > their

> > > > > > origin al starting points of their

journey(maintaining the

> > distance

> > > > > > between them in tact) is 60 years. Though

these two

planets

> > treat

> > > > > each

> > > > > > other neutrally Sani has the capacity to

debilitate Guru.

In

> > order

> > > > > > that the role of Guru is not lost sight

of these 60 years

are

> > called

> > > > > > as 'jupiterian' years. The pachakadi

sambandha is worth

> > remembering

> > > > > here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Breath+awareness+reverence = Prana.

This means that Prana

is

> > the

> > > > > > universal set containing breath as subset

in it! It was

> > addressing

> > > > > > this prana (rudra aaradhana) that King

Kowsika transformed

> > himself

> > > > > into

> > > > > > Sage Viswvmitra.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The quietude of chitta/chit/mind

plus the beatitude of

ajapa

> > nrtya

> > > > > are

> > > > > > the required qualifications/conditions

which enable one to

> > > > > understand

> > > > > > the concept of space and time divisions

which forms the

basis

> > for

> > > > > > further revelations.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pancha kosha is the panchavati(5

trees)where the Rama-

Sita-

> > Lakshmana

> > > > > > reside. Let us pray to Sage Agastya to

bless us also.

> > > > > >

& gt; > > > > > i think you will agree that the

concept of Guru and

> > reverential

> > > > > > approach to Guru, the Guru prasada viz.,

mantra and

quietude

> > of

> > > > > > chitta/mind are essential for

understanding and

facilitating

> > the

> > > > > > mainfestation of 'chiti sakthi'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i am extremely sorry for the length of

the mail.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > May Mother Bless.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>

> > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

> > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalit/ Ramanarayanan,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pardon my interruption, but are you

sure that

the "Chit" in

> > > > > Chidambaram

> > > > > > > refers to Chitta (mind of feelings).

I would think it

> > refers to

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > Chiti shakti or Kundalini shakti. I

would translate the

> > word as

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > whose apparel is pure energy. That

is why he is

described

> > as one

> > > > > who is

> > > > > > > moving and one who is motionless,

one who is distant as

> > well as

> > > > > one

> > > > > > who

> > > > > > > is near, one in whom all reside but

the one who is out

side

> > all

> > > > > > > (creation). Of course my knowledge

in matters religious

is

> > not

> > > > > very

> > > > > > deep.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > litsol wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Resp Sri P.S.ramanarayanan Ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaskaar, I think God has sent

u so that we can learn

> > more,

> > > > > It's

> > > > > > quite

> > > > > > > > right about Chidambara (Chitta

+ Ambar - akash or

sky) ,

> > I have

> > > > > some

> > > > > > > > confusions that i think i

should ask -

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. When the mind quietens the

breathing steps

> > > > > > > > across(transcends) the manomaya

kosha making the japa

now

> > > > > ajapa! The

> > > > > > > > dance of Nataraaja is seen here

in this chit+ambaram

at

> > the

> > > > > point of

> > > > > > > > time when the ordinary

breathing percolates through

> > > > > manomaya/sabdamaya

> > > > > > > > kosha to bringforth

'PRAANANAADA'.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My experience is slight

different, when mind (Mana)

> > quietens,

> > > > > the

> > > > > > chetna

> > > > > > > > (consciousness) transcedence,

but it's under the

mother

> > divine,

> > > > > unless

> > > > > > > > she blesses, this transcednce

is blocked, I had

chanted

> > crores

> > > > > of the

> > > > > > > > mantras, but it didnt happen, i

was curious to know

> > what's there

> > > > > > in the

> > > > > > > > other side of the coin, what is

cross the border,

> > finally, it

> > > > > happened

> > > > > > > > one day, it happened

spontaneously..., now ajapa and

japa

> > are

> > > > > one and

> > > > > > > > same thing to me ..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I dont understand kosha theory

much and i also think

the

> > prana

> > > > > has no

> > > > > > > > importance in spiritua lity,

prana and pranayaam is as

> > > > > superficial and

> > > > > > > > physical as any organ of the

body in the sense of the

> > > > > > spirituality, pls.

> > > > > > > > guide me more.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think koshas are the level of

attachements to

various

> > > > > instincts ..

> > > > > > > > where our chetna is stuck, m

not sure, telling from my

> > > > > experience.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > expecting to know more from u..

pls. tell us more.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

& g t; > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>

> > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>

> > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%

> > > > > 40>, "sree88ganesha"

> > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANA NANDAMAYAM

> > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Aavesh ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Namaste. i thank you for

addressing the

> > topic 'Chidambara

> > > > > > Rahasya' to

> > > > > > > > > me too.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Chitta is seen from 5th

bhava. In kalapurusha

jataka it

> > > > > contains the

> > > > > > > > > sign Simha ruled by Sun.

The karaka for 5th is Guru

who

> > stand

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > aakasha. The 8th amsa of

this 5th bhava is

> > > > > > scorpio/vrischika(watery).

> > > > > > > > > The 8th bhava is

considered as the gupta/rahasya

bhava.

> > It is

> > > > > > here we

> > > > > > > > > see the debilitation of

chandra taking place.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The stillness of the

Nataraja posture which we see

is

> > not

> > > > > > stillness in

> > > > > > > > > reality but it is the

height of velocity. It is said

> > that

> > > > > Ganga

> > > > > > Mayya

> > > > > > > > > wanted to see this Nrtya.

It is for this specific

> > reason that

> > > > > she as

> > > > > > > > > swarna vi lva got down

from the 'jata'. Is this a

> > secret?!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Let us go further.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Vilva stands for praana.

The tri-dala that is

offered

> > to the

> > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > > > stands for the activity of

breathing -

> > inhalation,retention

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > exhalation.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Chandra that we talked

about above indicates the

mana

> > which in

> > > > > > > > > layman's parlance stand

for kaala(Sani is said to

be the

> > > > > hig her

> > > > > > octave

> > > > > > > > > of chandra/Moon while Guru

is considered to be the

> > higher

> > > > > octave of

> > > > > > > > > Sun). Generally when a

person has mind to do a

> > particular job

> > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > usually finds time for the

same. This is purely

based

> > on the

> > > > > > likes and

> > > > > > > > > dislikes. This is based on

the ego. This usually

leads

> > one to

> > > > > wrong

> > > > > > > > > directions. The soma which

bestows nectar/amrita

> > (undying - a +

> > > > > > mrita)

> > > > > > > > > through the doors of Kaala

acts as chandra the mana

of

> > the

> > > > > jiva.

> > > > > > Kaala

> > > > > > > > > stands for limitation

while Soma stands for that

which

> > cannot

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > limited. Soma is that

Satya/Aakash/Space which can

be

> > reached

> > > > > > when we

> > > > > > > > > transcend the limitations/boundaries

of kaala. From

> > this we

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > understand that Sani

blocks Soma. In other words

Sani

> > allows

> > > > > Soma to

> > > > > > > > > function as chandra with

prescribed time limits.

This

> > is akin

> > > > > to the

> > > > > > > > > state where we find dead

bodies floating( or pushed

> > under) in

> > > > > > undying

> > > > > > > > > jeeva nadi Ganga!

Chidamabara Rahasya calls for this

> > > > > > transformation of

> > > > > > > > > kaala chakra to dik chakra.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now coming back to the

statement that chandra is

> > debilitated

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > vrischika, we understand

that the 8th amsa(rahasya)

of

> > the 5th

> > > > > > > > > bhava(chit+ambaram) allows

this transcendence.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What is the secre t in

Chidambaram? To the right of

Maata

> > > > > > > > > Sivakamasundari we have

the Lord Nataraaja. To His

> > right we

> > > > > have 5

> > > > > > > > > vertically lined swarna

vilva(ganga). Vilva stands

for

> > prana

> > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > cannot be seen(a-drista/rahasya).

Praana stands for

> > sustenance

> > > > > (Ganga

> > > > > > > > > Mayya's heart is big

indeed). 5 numbers stand for

the

> > pancha

> > > > > praana

> > > > > > > > > which are considered the

prathama karakas.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Praana maya kosha stands

in between annamaya kosha

and

> > > > > manomaya

> > > > > > kosha.

> > > > > > > > > Using the 5th bhava if the

cobwebs of manomaya

kosha are

> > > > > > > > > dusted(through guru

mantra) the unrealized ordinary

> > breathing

> > > > > slows

> > > > > > > > > down to give the benefit

of attention of the praana

> > ganga

> > > > > that is

> > > > > > > > > flowing within. When the

mind quietens the breathing

> > steps

> > > > > > > > > across(transcends) the

manomaya kosha making the

japa

> > now

> > > > > ajapa! The

> > > > > > > > > dance of Nataraaja is seen

here in this

chit+ambaram at

> > the

> > > > > point of

> > > > > > > > > time when the ordinary

breathing percolates through

> > > > > > manomaya/sabdamaya

> > > > > > > > > kosha to bringforth

'PRAANANAADA'.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Let me stop here as the

mail is becoming lengthier.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > i am sorry if i had bored

you.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Best wishes.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Astrologically &

spiritually yours,

> > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>

> > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>

> > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

> > aavesh t

> > > > > > > > > aavesh_s@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > D ear

> > > > > >

Lalit,Chandrashekarji,Sheevaniji,Sunilji,RKDa,Ramanarayanji

> > and

> > > > > > > > > Group,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please see this link:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > http://bharataagama

s.blogspot. com/2008/

> > 02/chidambara-

> > > > > rahasyam.

> > > > > > > > > html

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > aavesh

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > aavesh

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Bring your gang

together - do your thing. Start

your

> > group.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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March 3, 2008

Dear Aavesh Sir,

Some says, saturn in 9'th house, delays the marriage also , is it ? Why Sri Ramkrishna Didn't get married early, any astrological reasons , Well, I have got Shoeb Akhtar's chart given by Bejan Daruwala, Hope Group Members will post their views on saturn in 9'th -

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Nakshatra

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Capricorn